Matt Jones (2:59)

To hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

Lowe's Advertiser (3:05)

Welcome back our number two Kentucky Sports Radio. We'll go the phone here in just a second. 859-280-2287. Shannon says it sounds funny when I was wailing there in the first hour.

Matt Jones (3:16)

For the the he haul song with no music.

Lowe's Advertiser (3:19)

That's all right. You know what, podcast people, I hope you enjoyed it. Shannon's a little freaked out, right?

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (3:25)

Why is that?

Lowe's Advertiser (3:26)

They've posted a picture around the Louisville I heart with a picture of a person saying, watch out for this person. This person has made threats. And Shannon just sent me the picture. And I got to tell you, Shannon, I wouldn't have needed a warning. I wouldn't have needed a warning if I saw that dude. If I saw this dude right here.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (3:47)

Oh, boy.

Lowe's Advertiser (3:48)

I think I'd be a little bit worried, too.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (3:50)

Yes.

Lowe's Advertiser (3:51)

So. So do we know what happened? He. They said he's made threats to the building.

Matt Jones (3:55)

Well, yeah, I don't want to say on the air, but you know what? I don't know. I mean, you know, he could be listening right now and get me when I walk out the door.

Lowe's Advertiser (4:04)

Oh, yeah. You got to be careful, Shannon. I don't want it to happen to you.

Matt Jones (4:08)

All right. Can't kidnap me, but yeah, we'll be watching for that.

Lowe's Advertiser (4:12)

If you see that guy run, it's.

Matt Jones (4:14)

Weird when you walk in, his face is like plastered on the walls and on the cabinets in the kitchen. Like, have you seen this man? If you have, avoid him.

Lowe's Advertiser (4:22)

So what do we think he's upset about? You think it's like I'm going to be completely.

Matt Jones (4:27)

I think I have. Could have a stereotypical.

Lowe's Advertiser (4:29)

This has got to be political, right? That's a. That's a Trumper guy. Yeah. You think he's like liberal media?

Matt Jones (4:36)

You know, I don't know which side of the aisle he's on, but you can make that assumption if you want. But it probably. It probably is political, though, I would say.

Lowe's Advertiser (4:43)

Yeah. I mean, no, but that's the only reason you would get mad at a radio station, right? Would be.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (4:47)

Think he's a big fan of the Indianapolis 500. Not happy with what you said.

Lowe's Advertiser (4:51)

Well, luckily I'm in a different city.

Matt Jones (4:52)

Right now, so take it out on me.

Lowe's Advertiser (4:56)

One person writes, matt, how could you not know about Pete Rose? You're a Reds fan. Because I wasn't a Reds fan back then. I didn't. I mean, I've never like the Pete Rose, even the Joey Votto thing, like the. It's never affected me because I wasn't a fan then. But when I was reading, I'm telling you, this book, Charlie Hustle, if, even if you're not a book reader and you just like sports, like, you will like it. It goes through his life. I didn't realize how much Pete Rose was gambling like his whole life. Yeah, like, I didn't realize what that, I guess. What's the Northern Kentucky track? Is that Turfway? Apparently he went to Turfway like every day.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (5:33)

Wow.

Lowe's Advertiser (5:34)

Every day. Like back then, the baseball games would often be at like 4 in the afternoon. And then at night he would go to Turfway. And it just talked about how. And he also like, didn't pay his debts. Part of the problem was, part of the reason he got caught is he owed bookies money all over the East Coast. And, and so eventually when these bookies got brought down, they would turn on Rose cause he owed them all money. I didn't know any of that. Like, I didn't know how the whole investigation even started. It was because bookies got caught and they all flipped on Rose. Cause he owed them. Like, and he would. I mean, he was a degenerate. He like ran from one bookie to the other because like, there'd be a bookie like, I'm not taking your bets anymore because you, you, you owe me so much money.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (6:17)

And if I remember correctly, these bookies saved the. The to tickets to show Pete Rose name betting on the Reds.

Lowe's Advertiser (6:23)

And I didn't realize that for a lot of their career, he and Johnny Bench were kind of like, they butted head.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (6:29)

Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (6:29)

Because like, they didn't. Pete Rose thought Johnny was considered better than him. And by the end of their career they got along. But. But during the early career, they apparently butted heads. And the things he, Pete Rose would say in the media, including some awful things. I mean, he, he said I didn't know the history of kind of sexist, racist stuff he had said. I didn't realize that. But even also he was just like, he'd just be about to play somebody and go, he's not good about a pitcher he was going to go against the next day. Shannon, he'd be like, yeah, that dude's not any good. You know when we now see such outrage about what athletes say, go look at what Pete Rose used to say. Pete Rose would be about to play a pitcher and go to the media and go, yeah, he can't. He can't strike me out.

Matt Jones (7:13)

I like that. When you kidding me?

Lowe's Advertiser (7:16)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (7:16)

I mean, we need more of that.

Lowe's Advertiser (7:18)

I don't disagree with you, but it's funny how outraged people get at modern athletes. If you didn't go look at the stuff the guys said back then.

Matt Jones (7:25)

Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (7:26)

It was like. So it's. I think it's a. It's a great book. I have not even finished it yet, but I read it literally all weekend.

Ryan (7:32)

I will add it to my reading list. I've. I'd heard stories. I feel like some people locally in the media have told stories about him being at the track all the time.

Lowe's Advertiser (7:39)

All the time.

Ryan (7:40)

Game days.

Lowe's Advertiser (7:40)

Said he would show up in fur coats.

Ryan (7:45)

Not even trying to blend in.

Lowe's Advertiser (7:46)

Can you imagine going to Turfway and seeing Pete Rose walk in with a fur coat.

Matt Jones (7:53)

Guy?

Lowe's Advertiser (7:54)

It doesn't again, like the things I thought I knew. I just think about him with that bowl cut haircut.

Matt Jones (7:59)

Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (8:00)

But then I realized that when he got the hit that broke the record, that's one of the first sporting moments I can remember.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (8:07)

Is it really?

Lowe's Advertiser (8:09)

It's one of the first. I'm not sure, like 84, 85 is when sports start to come into focus for me. I can remember the 85 Final Four. I remember the 85 Bears season, the whole thing. And then I do remember watching with my grandfather when he got that hit against Eric Shao and the Padres and against that he was about to hit. He had gone like two games where he didn't get a hit. Like everybody was in Cincinnati to wait and see what happened. The next night he told he was also the manager. Think about that. Like, can you imagine Ichiro or not Ichiro Ohtani also being the manager? He was the manager. And he said the night before the game, I'll get it tomorrow. Shall's not good.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (8:58)

He was right.

Matt Jones (8:59)

Called a shot. It's kind of badass really.

Lowe's Advertiser (9:03)

So anyway, I remember after he got.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (9:05)

The hit, remember little Pete, his son ran out to him and greet him.

Lowe's Advertiser (9:07)

At first in the book. Yeah, you, you would love it. This, this book was written for Ryan Lynn. I'm telling you, you would, you would really love it took, you know, I kind of stayed offline all day Sunday, got home Sunday night, got on my phone, looked, and they. Someone had taken a clip of like 10 or 11 seconds of me talking to Pope and interrupting him at one point. And so me being the interrupter became a big thing. I feel like you tell me I'm open to criticism. While it is correct that I interrupt all the time, I did feel like with Pope, I didn't interrupt him a lot. Am I wrong?

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (9:50)

No, I sat right there during the whole interview. I thought you did a good job. I mean, you interrupt him as important of a conversation, but not interrupt him to keep the. Keep it moving. You let him talk and had him expand on a lot of topics.

Matt Jones (10:02)

He's pretty long winded too. So you. You let him get us.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (10:05)

You let him.

Matt Jones (10:05)

Yeah, you did let him get his thoughts out.

Ryan (10:08)

I didn't see the clip they used against you. I remember like when he's on my Louisville, you chimed in when he's like.

Lowe's Advertiser (10:13)

That was the one.

Ryan (10:14)

Yeah. I mean, I remember. I remember you like adding to what he's saying. I don't remember. Just a full stop interruption.

Lowe's Advertiser (10:20)

That was the. That was the clip. It was something about. No, no, no, it wasn't about Louisville's about California. He said when Cal told him, don't ruin my program. I guess I enter. But, you know, I've decided, by the way, to call the podcast Interrupted.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (10:35)

Yes. Good, good.

Lowe's Advertiser (10:36)

I think that's the play. Yeah.

Ryan (10:38)

I've had people recommend Interrupted by Matt Jones because it's kind of like a double play. Like the podcast is by Matt Jones and you're also the active interrupting.

Lowe's Advertiser (10:46)

That's. Whoever gave you that idea.

Ryan (10:48)

My mother actually shout out to Nancy.

Lowe's Advertiser (10:51)

Nancy, great idea. But I mean, I am a bad about interrupting, but I didn't feel like I intentionally tried to be calm, cornbread, hempy. You know, I tried to do that Ryan, because I thought, you know, he's a coach, I want him to come back.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (11:07)

We talked about the next day how it's a different interview format when you're interviewing somebody like that for a podcast than you are on the radio. On the radio, you want to keep it moving and trying to, you know, keep the guy on topic. You let Mark, I think, expand on topics. Now, if you interrupted him once or twice, I think it was because, like you would do us in conversation if we were having lunch somewhere, not like you're trying to keep up to keep the podcast moving.

Lowe's Advertiser (11:28)

Well, that was the. That was the Twitter Sunday night Conversation is. Matt interrupts too much. So I just started chiming in saying, Shannon, I agreed that he's the worst and we need to, we need to get him out. He talks about politics too much. Andrew, what's up? Andrew.

Caller (11:45)

What'S up? This is a question for you, Matt. Who is your favorite current Red on the team? Who's your all time favorite Red and what is your favorite piece of Red memorabilia that you own?

Lowe's Advertiser (11:55)

Ellie. Ellie and Ellie's bobblehead. I mean, those are the answers because again, I've only really rooted for him for like six years. And I love Ellie even though, you know, guess he's up and down. There is nothing I've seen in baseball. When I was a kid, when Dale Murphy would come up to Batman, that was the most exciting thing. Shannon, to me in the world was Dale Murphy was up to bat. Now when Ellie gets a hit, watching him run is the best thing in baseball, in my opinion because you don't know what's going to happen. He's so exciting so fast. So that's, that's mine. Easy. And then my Ellie bobblehead that I made Billy get for me that he had to fight someone to get for that one game, that's my favorite memorabilia.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (12:41)

Yeah. Cause you didn't go to the Pete Rose jersey night the other night.

Lowe's Advertiser (12:44)

I sold my tickets, got a lot of money for him. Yeah, that was, that was good. But, but that, but it's easy. Most of the Reds I've hated. I also liked Louis Castillo, the pitcher, because he could. He's the first time because I had seats behind home plate. Shane and I could watch the ball curve.

Matt Jones (13:00)

Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (13:01)

You know, like his curve was so, so curvy. So curvy that sitting behind. It's. It's really the first time I could watch a ball in person, like do magic when he was rolling. And I really liked that. I would never miss when he, like I try not to miss 100 green pitches at home. He throws it even though it's only like four miles an hour faster. You can feel it, which is crazy, but the difference between like 101 and 97, you can feel, feel it when he throws.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (13:31)

That's another thing about Friday. He made his return. Hunter Green back to the mountain and he was throwing 100 miles an hour when he came back. And then they lost the lead and lost the game.

Lowe's Advertiser (13:39)

That's so weird to me as a guy who didn't play baseball. You would think 9701. It's not that Big a difference. But when you watch it in person.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (13:49)

Yeah, you can.

Lowe's Advertiser (13:50)

It's. We. You guys played it.

Matt Jones (13:52)

Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (13:52)

You can feel the difference.

Matt Jones (13:54)

A big difference. When you're 60ft away from that, it feels like, whoa. Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (13:59)

Coming off his hand, there's a guy they got right now, Lewis May. He throws 102, and he has no control. And when he throws, I'm like, I'm scared. I'm sure the batters have to be. Dalton. Go ahead, Dalton.

Ryan (14:17)

Hey, Matt, I'm not sure if you've.

Caller (14:19)

Seen this, but I think you would.

Ryan (14:21)

Really like the movie A Real Pain.

Lowe's Advertiser (14:23)

With Jesse Eisenberg and Kieran Culkin. I have seen it, and I thought it was great. I thought it was great. Yeah, I've seen it. The one where they go to Auschwitz or whatever. Yeah, Yeah.

Ryan (14:35)

I just thought it was like a.

Lowe's Advertiser (14:37)

Just a good commentary on the Holocaust. And I. I know you mentioned it.

Ryan (14:44)

A couple weeks ago because that's what.

Lowe's Advertiser (14:45)

You did.

Caller (14:47)

At the.

Lowe's Advertiser (14:48)

I thought it was great. I thought it was great. It's a great movie. And it's also like, there are a lot of idiots right now that, for whatever reason, on podcasting stuff, are trying to, like, sort of downplay the Holocaust or even trying to act like it. Some people act like it didn't even happen. That's nonsense. And very dangerous. But also, that movie I thought was really, really good. You know, it's called what's a Real Pain. Is that right? It's the dude from Facebook and the dude from Succession in. In a movie together. Yeah, it's really. Yeah, I really thought it was a.

Ryan (15:21)

Breath of fresh air.

Lowe's Advertiser (15:22)

Yeah. So, Yeah, I appreciate it. 859-280-2287 Back to the Pope thing for a minute. In his. In his interview, he talked about wanting to get more athletic, et cetera. He also said during that interview, though, that he still wanted the team to take a ton of threes this year. Do you think they're going to be shooting well enough to do that?

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (15:45)

I guess. You got to show me yet. I'm not so sure how many good shooters we are. Great shooters we've got on this roster. Maybe they're going to surprise me. Maybe everybody takes a step up. But I guess if you're asking me to predict, I don't know if they'll predict many more threes than they took last year.

Ryan (15:59)

They won't have a Kobe Braya. Not many teams do have a Kobe Braya, but I think a lot of the guys are going to do better than Some of us are getting credit for Aberdeen. You know, he played behind best backcourt in the country. But in the games where he started, I think there's five or six games. He shot 40 something from three. I think Jasper Johnson's gonna be able to knock it down. Like, no one mentions Cam Williams name just whatsoever. So even though they don't have just the sharpshooter, you know, that's what they're in for. I still think they have a lot of guys that'll be able to shoot it.

Lowe's Advertiser (16:24)

That little section where he was talking about Jalen Lowe and he was talking about how he took the highest percentage of the worst percentage of shots. And if he, if you're a basketball nerd, that's probably the best part. He was like, jalen Lowe took the worst 20% of shots the top 10% of times. And if we could just move him to block. I thought that was really interesting.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (16:44)

It was really interesting. I'm glad you brought that up because he confused me on a little bit. Was he trying to say that Jalen Lowe was forced to take these shots because he had nobody else on the.

Lowe's Advertiser (16:52)

I'll tell you what, here's what I'd like to do. Let's take a break. I want to hear you to try to explain, okay. What he said. Okay, then I'll tell you what I think he said.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (17:00)

Okay, I'll try.

Lowe's Advertiser (17:01)

All right.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (17:02)

It was confusing.

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Lowe's Advertiser (20:02)

Welcome back TY Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. The Yaxel Landenberg staying at Michigan withdrawing from the draft. So a lot of the big names in college basketball drew are are coming back.

Ryan (20:16)

That's one. We wanted to see him go to the draft because Kentucky really wanted him early in the process. When he went to Michigan, I think we were all rooting that he'd go to the NBA and leave them hanging. That was One of the. As when the whiffs originated online for Pope, when he would get.

Lowe's Advertiser (20:29)

I mean, if we had lost him, we lost him. And that frustrated a lot of people. But that was very early in portal season, very early. And I think Pope was worried. You know, big men are harder to get even than guards. And I think he was worried. If you go all in on that guy and then he does. He ends up staying in the draft, then you are left without a big man. And so I, you know, I do think they wanted him. I also was not as worried as everyone else when he decided not to come.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (20:56)

It was so interesting to hear Pope talk about that, you know, not necessarily that the dude maybe didn't want to come to Kentucky. Maybe Kentucky, after meeting with the dude, didn't want him. You know, maybe he felt like he wasn't.

Lowe's Advertiser (21:05)

I don't think that was true with him, though.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (21:06)

Okay.

Lowe's Advertiser (21:07)

I think it was true with that dude from Georgia. I don't think that was true with the dude from Michigan. I think they would. They would like to have had the Yaxel guy. I think at one point they thought they did have him, and then he changed his mind. I think the Georgia kid is the one. I mean, there may have been others, but the Georgia kid is the one that. I think when they met him, they, for whatever reason, I don't know what the reason was, decided that they. They didn't want.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (21:31)

There were a couple dudes like this, the guard from Sam Houston State, where I thought Kentucky.

Lowe's Advertiser (21:35)

They wanted him to.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (21:35)

Wanted him.

Lowe's Advertiser (21:36)

Of course you thought that, Shannon. Of course he thought we were getting that one because he guaranteed it.

Matt Jones (21:40)

That's right.

Lowe's Advertiser (21:41)

On the radio. And you said it was going to happen later in the day. And you interrupted my serene vacation in the Netherlands with everyone mad at me because you guaranteed a player that didn't come.

Ryan (21:52)

I think the Axel was his other one.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (21:53)

The axle was the other one.

Ryan (21:55)

Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (21:55)

So notice what he just did right there, Shane? Do you notice what he just did? He just turned his two guarantees that didn't happen into a Kentucky didn't want him anyway.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (22:07)

Yeah, I think that was it.

Matt Jones (22:08)

Yeah.

Ryan (22:08)

Cover your bases.

Lowe's Advertiser (22:09)

So Kentucky didn't want them. Then why did you guarantee they were going to come here?

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (22:12)

Well, that was before they met. Maybe met him on FaceTime.

Lowe's Advertiser (22:14)

You guaranteed Sam Wilkerson the day he.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (22:17)

Was deciding he was supposed to. Then what? Indiana made a 11th hour visit.

Lowe's Advertiser (22:22)

Well, then how could Kentucky have not wanted him?

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (22:25)

They did.

Matt Jones (22:27)

I'm so confused.

Lowe's Advertiser (22:29)

So is he.

Ryan (22:30)

It's the concussion from The Herbie broken nose.

Lowe's Advertiser (22:33)

So is he 859-280-2287? Okay, so tell me what Pope said about Jalen Lowe's shock quality in your mind.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (22:41)

Okay, this is what I heard sitting in the room, is that Jalen Lowe was the point guard for Pitt.

Lowe's Advertiser (22:47)

Correct.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (22:47)

Pitt was so awful.

Lowe's Advertiser (22:49)

He didn't say awful, but I think that was the insinuation.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (22:51)

Insinuation that they ran the shot clock down to the final seconds because nobody could get a shot, and he was forced to jack up a bad shot just because the shot clock was about to wind down. So really, his shooting percentage is not as bad as it perceives. Because he was forced to take bad shots because he was on a bad team.

Lowe's Advertiser (23:07)

Yeah, he didn't say that. No, what he said was that. I mean, he. That might have been part of it, but what he basically said was there's a stat that ranks how many high quality and low quality shots you take.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (23:24)

Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (23:25)

And low quality shots are shots that are like from the 80th percent or from the 20th percentile of the worst to zero. He said Jalen Lowe took more of those shots than almost any player in college basketball. And his shooting percentage on those shots was awful. But when he took shots that were of a higher quality, his shooting percentage was very, very good.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (23:50)

Yes.

Lowe's Advertiser (23:50)

And his point was, if we can just get him to take fewer of the. I think Pope used the word hard shots and more of the others, it'll work. And he said Lamont Butler had similar stats before he came here. And they got Lamont Butler to get away from the bad shots, and his shooting percentage went way up.

Ryan (24:13)

Yeah, I think low. This is confusing to say, but low was in the 90th percentile of taking the most shots under 20% of quality, which is.

Lowe's Advertiser (24:22)

It is confusing, but. But he was at the top of the worst scale you can be on.

Ryan (24:27)

And those are contested long term.

Lowe's Advertiser (24:30)

Pope said when that they are basically, like, looking for inefficiencies in analytics. Where is the guy that if you just take that trade away, the other trades will get better? And he said Lamont Butler was like that two years ago, and Jalen Lowe, he hopes, is like that this year. But when it was over, I will say this kind of in a private moment, I think we said inversion. He was like, jalen, those are dudes. It's got to be good. Yeah, you know, he kind of was like. He said, that's the one. Like, he's got to be good for this to all work.

Ryan (25:06)

That's the only Spot where they're not really too deep. I mean, they have guys that can back him up. But if he were to go down or not pan out, you don't really have a true point guard that could step in.

Lowe's Advertiser (25:16)

By the way, that was true last year, too. Lamont Butler was the one guy you kind of couldn't really replace if he went out. And I think we're going to be like that again.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (25:26)

Yeah. Pope still spoke very highly of Jalen Lowe and him as a player and what he could potentially could be this year, I think, for the team.

Lowe's Advertiser (25:33)

Jerry, Go ahead, Jerry.

Caller (25:36)

Yes. I think you should own interrupting people. If you see the movie the Darkest Hour, there's a scene where Winston Churchill is arguing with one of his war cabinet members who was wanting him to sue for peace with the Nazis. And as they were talking over each other, Winston Churchill said to him, stop interrupting me while I'm interrupting you.

Lowe's Advertiser (26:04)

I've done that before. If you could.

Caller (26:07)

If you could grab that. That take and have Shannon play that anytime someone tries to.

Lowe's Advertiser (26:18)

No, that's exactly right. That's appreciate. I do that with callers. They'll interrupt me and I'll go, let me finish.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (26:24)

Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (26:24)

After I didn't let them finish. And it's a fair criticism. Everybody has a weakness. You know, I told one of the guys that was giving me a hard time on. On Twitter about. I'm like, everybody has a weakness. That's just one of mine. And that's okay.

Matt Jones (26:40)

At least you recognize it though.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (26:42)

That's the.

Lowe's Advertiser (26:42)

I feel like I'm pretty self aware about my weaknesses now. That doesn't mean I will stop them. But, you know, like, like that's one of my biggest weakness. What do you think is one of your biggest weaknesses? Weaknesses, Ryan?

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (26:54)

Math.

Ryan (26:57)

Why? He said that so quickly and leaned into the room.

Lowe's Advertiser (27:01)

It's not really a personality weakness. That's something you're not good at. What's like a personality?

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (27:07)

I have a hard time telling people no.

Lowe's Advertiser (27:09)

Okay. I think that's true. I think that's good. What about you?

Ryan (27:14)

I think I can be too carefree to a fault. I'm just always. And sometimes I need a little more urgency, a little more aggression. I'm just constantly. Whatever.

Lowe's Advertiser (27:24)

Okay.

Ryan (27:24)

That can be good in some situations. But sometimes I need to be more assertive.

Lowe's Advertiser (27:28)

Sometimes you need to be. Yeah, I agree with that. What about you, Shannon?

Matt Jones (27:31)

No. Everybody knows I'm perfect. I don't have any flaws.

Lowe's Advertiser (27:33)

I knew he was gonna say that. I knew you were gonna say that. Talking about Shannon doesn't accept. Shannon is like exactly. Well, I love Shannon.

Matt Jones (27:46)

I'm exactly like, what?

Ryan (27:47)

Say it.

Lowe's Advertiser (27:48)

I don't know how to articulate it in a way that's as nice as I want to be because I love you and I know. So we'll just, we'll just take a break. Be right back.

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Matt Jones (28:01)

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

Lowe's Advertiser (28:06)

Welcome back. Techy sports radio segment sponsored by DraftKings. You can go to DraftKings BET5, get $300 with the promo code KSR. DraftKings is your home of all that is fun and in the world of placing bets. Knicks Pacers tonight. Pacers two and a half point favorite. All three of these games in the series have been close. All three have been exciting. So far the road teams won every game. Who wins tonight?

Ryan (28:31)

I still think the Knicks win the series. I'll say they win tonight. This is by far been the most fun really. All the Knicks and Pacers games, all playoffs. It has got to the point. There is just no point watching the first three quarters of these playoff games if the Knicks and Pacers are involved because it doesn't matter if it's a 20 point lead, 18 point lead, it's coming down to the wire and I hope that's the case again tonight.

Lowe's Advertiser (28:51)

Foul. Sorry. I've been watching Carl Town's videos.

Ryan (28:58)

Zesty Carl Town just popular on the Internet.

Lowe's Advertiser (29:00)

Like if you get on TikTok it is all Shannon, Zesty Carl.

Matt Jones (29:04)

I've seen the videos.

Lowe's Advertiser (29:06)

It's all just him going sec and like it's just, it's in that pass that, that's going by pass that he did. I, I actually think it's made Carl even more lovable to the fans is that they are literally standing outside the arena and doing Carl Town's impressions.

Ryan (29:25)

And I love Carl but he is definitely changing his voice in interviews to.

Lowe's Advertiser (29:30)

Sound more New York and he is, he does all of it and I love him for it. But they have shown him when he gets fouled and screams oh, like he does that all the time in the videos. They have like tons of videos, Shannon. I can't stop watching them. They make me laugh so much.

Matt Jones (29:49)

Once you get in that algorithm on Tick Tock, that's every video.

Lowe's Advertiser (29:52)

Get away.

Matt Jones (29:53)

Get out of it.

Lowe's Advertiser (29:53)

If you get in the Carl Town screaming videos, you cannot get out of.

Ryan (29:59)

Stuck in the I sent you and Mario a link to there's a Zesty town shirt. I'm thinking about buying it.

Lowe's Advertiser (30:04)

I think he's kind of that. He's kind of zesty and he was good the other night. He had 20 points in the fourth.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (30:10)

Quarter and I was really mad at him that night. You know, I'm a Pacers guy. But Carl was unstoppable in the fourth.

Lowe's Advertiser (30:15)

Quarter when he dunked on the dude. Yeah, even I got up and was flexing.

Ryan (30:20)

Imagine being in the city of Indianapolis in a postseason game and giving the ball ball to Carl late in the game for a win. I mean, what a novel concept. If only we had done that 10 years ago.

Lowe's Advertiser (30:30)

Gosh, when I see him get hot from three and I think Cal was like, nope, nope, can't shoot him, can't shoot him.

Ryan (30:37)

He was 7 for 11 from the field and didn't take a shot after the seven minute mark. Just a reminder in Indianapolis.

Lowe's Advertiser (30:44)

So you said The College Football 26 video game came out. No. Kentucky, they have, they have all these teams on the COVID probably 40 teams. And they don't have Kentucky.

Ryan (30:55)

They released the deluxe cover. I mean it's just a big collaboration of all kinds of teams. There's probably 50 teams, you know, players, coaches, fans. Kentucky did not make the cut, but there is a fan pretty prominent spot wearing a Toledo sweatshirt. So our first opponent made the COVID of the new video game and not the Cats.

Lowe's Advertiser (31:14)

Do you know that we have Ryan? The fifth lowest win total on DraftKings of any Power 5. Power 4 school. Only four. Stanford. There's like Stanford, Purdue were fifth lowest.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (31:31)

What is it?

Lowe's Advertiser (31:32)

Four and a half.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (31:34)

That's tough.

Lowe's Advertiser (31:35)

Lowest. We have the lowest in the sec.

Ryan (31:38)

I didn't like, I forgot the website. But someone over the weekend did like one of those anonymous coaches things and one of the coaches said they can't keep up with Vandy. Like that's the biggest.

Lowe's Advertiser (31:48)

Over the years, that anonymous coaches thing that Athlon does has been pretty dead on.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (31:53)

Yes, it has.

Lowe's Advertiser (31:54)

And normally it's been very, very complimentary to Kentucky. Not this year.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (32:00)

No. Last year they were complimentary to Kentucky.

Lowe's Advertiser (32:02)

Not this year.

Ryan (32:03)

Usually says we hate playing Kentucky. We know. We felt it. We feel it the next day.

Lowe's Advertiser (32:07)

The whole thing is Mark has let it slip. We have no idea what this team is going to do. They might be off. Like it's not good.

Ryan (32:15)

The one that said they can't keep pace with South Carolina and Vandy if you can't keep pace with Vandy and other coaches are saying that out loud, that's. That one stung.

Lowe's Advertiser (32:23)

That one was Worried me. And it basically said, there's a lot of players that aren't that great. It's all going to come down to seventh year Nick Calzada. So as I accidentally called him Eric Empanada. We really need Nick Calzada to be good. Darrell. Go ahead, Darrell.

Caller (32:42)

Morning, gentlemen. I just have a couple of comments and then I'll hang up and get out. First, if you want to. If you're worried about interrupting people, listen to Sean Hannity's radio show. Not only does he interrupt his guest, he asked questions that go for paragraphs. Second, West Virginia is the place where greatness is learned and couches were first burned. Go Mountaineers. I'm out.

Lowe's Advertiser (33:11)

Oh, well, there you go. West Virginia greatness is learned. Well, it is learned. And then it comes to Kentucky. Right. You learn it there and then you come craft it here. We like that.

Ryan (33:26)

Yeah, we're gonna. With all respect to the caller there, we're gonna show West Virginia what's up at noon on Friday, too. Go ahead.

Lowe's Advertiser (33:32)

They're almost like our minor league feeder system. Sure. And we thank you. Once you cross over I64 from Huntington to Ashland, you get in the big leagues. And we thank you for that, West Virginia.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (33:43)

Oscar Sheepway got Kirk Crease in. We got the football player that's coming over now this year. So keep. Keep sending them to us.

Lowe's Advertiser (33:48)

Keep sending them. We'll take them. Mark Anthony. What's up, Mark Anthony.

Caller (33:53)

Hey, Matthew Rounder. Shannon Fellows. If there is but one statistic I want to see improve this year from the basketball team, it would be shot percentage from 3ft and in. I know, it was. Every game last year, they would leave 10, 12 points on the floor from three feet and in. And they had an awful time with the lob. Just could not get that lob to work. So just one thing I want to see improve. It would make a big difference this year.

Lowe's Advertiser (34:24)

There would be. Yes, I appreciate the call. There would be multiple games that would have gone a different way if we'd been better with layups. We were. I mean, and really it was all the guys, I mean, away missed a lot. Robinson missed a lot. Butler missed a lot.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (34:39)

Amari.

Lowe's Advertiser (34:40)

Amari.

Ryan (34:40)

How many times do we yell, just dunk it, Amari, dunk it.

Lowe's Advertiser (34:43)

I mean, there were just so many layups that. That just. Again, I think it was an athleticism thing. I think the athleticism, when you are going up against a great athlete and you're not quite as good an athlete, you tend to try to avoid being blocked and it causes you to miss it. That might get better, but man, there were a lot of layups missed.

Ryan (35:05)

Yeah, I mean, Carr, he's a below the rim player. And then when his back got hurt, he definitely wasn't getting up there.

Lowe's Advertiser (35:10)

But he oddly was one of the more crafty.

Ryan (35:14)

Draw some good fouls. But Amari, he turned it on in the tournament. Had some flashy dunks against Illinois, but there were so many games where you're just yelling, go rip the rim off, big guy. And he would just miss some two footers. It got frustrating. He was so good at just about everything, but around the rim, he would have some problems.

Lowe's Advertiser (35:29)

Free Bird, what's up?

Caller (35:32)

Hey, glad y' all. Hope y' all had a great Memorial Day. Matt, if you want a really good funny I sent you on the text line a Grandpa Jones outtake that he messes up phrase and I think Ryan hit it on the head. Nick Mangione has done a fabulous job with what he recruited, with what he got in the transfer portal, and I think we're going to do some damage, man. Hope you all feel the same way.

Lowe's Advertiser (36:00)

Well, they got in it. They got in a little bracket and I appreciate the call that they have a shoddy. You know, sometimes you can get stuck with a team that even if you play great, like they're just a lot better than you and they're in a bracket where, as Drew said, those teams have struggled down the stretch. You've got a chance. And so, yeah, I mean, I'm not going to sit here and act like I know the, excuse me, the pitching matchups and all this, because I do not. But I do know that when I look at the baseball, I look in your little four team pod, do you have a chance? And they have a chance.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (36:36)

Yeah. You may look at just the overall records, think, well, Kentucky doesn't have that good of a record. But then you look at who their wins were against in the sec, some of the top level teams in the country, then you realize, this guy, this team is really good. Better than a record indicates one of.

Lowe's Advertiser (36:48)

The good things about playing in the SEC in baseball. But this is true in every sport, but certainly in baseball is we're so much better than every other conference and they try to keep you from playing another SEC team in your little pod.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (36:59)

Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (37:00)

So it makes it to where you get teams that might not be as good as the teams you've been playing all season long.

Ryan (37:05)

Yeah. Even though Clemson's hosting had a good year, West Virginia, obviously two seat had a decent year. You get a Little bit of relief not having to see an SEC team. It felt like when they were reading the 16 regional sites, it was just one SEC school after another. They had about all of them. So now you at least get a little break from that.

Lowe's Advertiser (37:22)

By the way, the Canes won a game.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (37:23)

I saw them back. They needed to win.

Lowe's Advertiser (37:25)

They did. They. I watched most of it. They came back. They've got, you know, they have a Russian dude, Shannon, who just got to America. He's only. He came here, and he came here, and he's had to play for the playoffs. And he speaks no English. Okay? So I want you to think about that. He speaks no English. None. And they said that he, for last night's game, spent the day trying to learn enough English to give a pregame motivational speech. Really? Now, I want you to think about this. He's only been on the team for two weeks. He's from Russia. This is his first time even in America. He decides to try to motivate his new teammates. He's going to learn just enough English for a speech. And after the game was over, the players were like, it wasn't good, and it wasn't even close to. But there was something that motivated him about the fact that he would try.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (38:26)

Yes.

Lowe's Advertiser (38:27)

You know, that he tried to do it. That it actually got him excited, even though they said, like, he was using the wrong words and all that. But I think that's kind of cool, though, right?

Matt Jones (38:37)

Imagine, you know, you had to go over to Russia and do a motivational speech in Russian and had to learn.

Lowe's Advertiser (38:43)

Exactly. I'd be terrible.

Matt Jones (38:44)

You wouldn't know what to say.

Lowe's Advertiser (38:45)

But I wonder if the Russians would be like, well, at least he's trying, you know? So I think that I would love to have heard the speech. They said it was like 20 seconds. He gets up, and the guys try not to laugh because he's so serious. And even though it sounded ridiculous, they all went, I think that's kind of a cool story.

Ryan (39:05)

I like that. I mean, he's obviously wanting to be part of the team. Wants to show he can lead. Just hadn't got through the Rosetta Stone yet. It's a big, big process to learn our language.

Lowe's Advertiser (39:13)

Gave it his best. I'd love to hear what he said. That was like, not even close to right. But still got people go, I think it's awesome.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (39:20)

I think it shows. He's a good. Wants to be a good locker room guy, wants to be a good teammate. So even though I may mess up the words, sometimes, people mess up the words when they're in live radio. Sometimes it doesn't matter.

Lowe's Advertiser (39:31)

It does.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (39:31)

You're here for the good of the betterment of the people.

Lowe's Advertiser (39:35)

I thought we were the good of the betterment of the people.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (39:37)

Yes.

Lowe's Advertiser (39:38)

All right.

Ryan (39:38)

Even to try to do it in the same language.

Lowe's Advertiser (39:41)

It is 859-280-2287. We will take a break. Come back.

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Ryan (42:38)

Me. I'm the friend.

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You. You took them. Hey, by the way, it was nice. Drew took the cornbread seltzers, left his coffee. It was very. It was very. But I can't complain because I leave Skittle wrappers in my friend's couches. But nevertheless, cornbread hemp. They have peach iced tea, raspberry lemonade and more to go to cornbread hemp.com it's cornbread hemp.com I've given Billy a homework assignment. Shannon.

Matt Jones (43:01)

Oh, I've heard.

Lowe's Advertiser (43:02)

For today's Matt Jones show, I'm having Drew on. We're going to kind of do the whole, the whole fade this thing, but I'm going to have Billy pick 10 news items, news, sports or entertainment items for us to discuss. And I thought we were going to tape it on Wednesday, but now we have to tape it on Tuesday. So I didn't tell him till last night. And I don't know what he's going to pick. Shannon, do you think he's going to pick good things?

Matt Jones (43:32)

Yeah, he's got plenty of time. You know, he does the one hour pre show with me and then he's got 23 hours to come up with topics. So I think if he can't come up with 10 topics in that amount of time, then I don't know.

Lowe's Advertiser (43:42)

And he's going to sh. I'm. He will just give them on the air and then Drew and I will. We'll discuss them and that will be one of the two episodes this week for the Matt Jones show. People, people wanted that fade this dynamic. So we're going to have a little bit of it. And thank you all. The amount of downloads of the show has Been through the roof, people. I would suggest, hey, if you see a guest on there and you're like, I don't know this person, give it a shot. You will create new fans. I had people say that to me about both Ryan McGee and, and in Crystal Ball this weekend.

Ryan (44:18)

Well, I'm excited for the show I'm going to be on because it's almost like a game show. There's no show prep. We don't know what Billy's going to put in front of us. It's just going to be our natural off the cuff reactions to whatever doesn't pick good stuff.

Lowe's Advertiser (44:30)

Shannon, I might mention that during the show as well.

Matt Jones (44:33)

That's right. Blame it on him if you don't have good topics.

Lowe's Advertiser (44:37)

Khalil Whitney. I thought about you Drew, when I saw this guy because that was your guy, the Dragon. He put up a. Was it Instagram?

Ryan (44:46)

I think it was on TikTok where.

Lowe's Advertiser (44:48)

He put up a picture of himself when he was at UK with the caption all he needed at the time was a hug. So it was like a picture of him looking sad on the bench. On the bench with him saying all he needed at the time was a hug. And then a lot of this is, this is the best of big Blue nation. Kentucky fans lit up the comments saying great things about him and it, you could tell it affected him positively because he then put up a different one that said, bbn, I love you all, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I will say when I saw the first picture of him being sad with that caption, it, it made me sad. Like even though things didn't work out with that kid, you always have to remember like these are, he was a kid when he was here. What you were a huge fan of his.

Ryan (45:47)

I was ready to lead the Khalil Whitney Dragon fan club. Well, I did. It just lasted a few months. Yeah, that one, that one hurt. You know, we don't know the real story of what happened there. Just looking at that, that post he made, it shows he obviously wanted to go a different direction and felt probably UK let him down a little bit. If he's saying all he needed was a hug. I do remember at the time, kind of people in the Khalil Whitney camp weren't helping his situation. He seemed like he wanted to be at uk and I don't remember what ultimately led to him leaving, but I think the people around him failed him pretty bad in that process too because he had a world of potential. And I looked it up last night and he's playing it like he just played in somewhere in Mexico. Now he's at like the third or fourth level of Australia, and he had way too much talent to not get a better shot at a better pro career. But the. I just needed a hug. It makes you wonder what he's really implying there.

Lowe's Advertiser (46:38)

As much as I love and I do love when guys come here and I saw DeMarcus Cousins do an interview with Kevin Garnett where he said Kentucky was the first and only place he felt totally loved and accepted by a fan base. I thought that was really cool. It does hurt. Like, it hurts me when guys feel the opposite. I mean, some of it's inevitable. Some of it might even be their fault sometimes. I'm not saying that's the case with Khalil, but I saw that and it really did bumm me out like that. That. Because you want this to be a positive experience for everybody. That's. That's a part of it.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (47:11)

I've always felt bad for that kid. Like you said, he was 18, 19 years old. And for him to leave the team in January tells me that was more than just playing time. He was. Maybe he was broken. He felt broken, maybe didn't feel wanted. It just. It is hard to remember that these are just kids. A lot of times we just saw this couple of years ago, I. Now I'm drawing a blank on his name. Got drafted by the 76ers.

Lowe's Advertiser (47:35)

Justin Edwards.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (47:36)

Justin Edwards. You know, he ended up having some struggles throughout the season. We saw him crying on the bench that one game, you know.

Lowe's Advertiser (47:42)

Yeah. I mean, cow's thing is like the tough love. And I do think there is a lot of love with that. I mean, I do think he. He cares about his guys. I think he is. I think he cares about his players, you know, a lot more than he even gets credit for. But he can be a lot. And I think some of the guys, that's just hard for. And maybe sometimes it breaks before he has a chance to really get through to them that he does care a lot. You know what I mean?

Ryan (48:14)

Yeah. And it seems he's insinuating he needed more love. Maybe not. I don't remember the fans being too bad. I really don't remember the reaction, how he's playing. But probably internally, behind the scenes, Cal does a great job taking care of his players. They all adore him, but he's probably not batting a thousand on every single player. And Whitney's, I'd say one of the ones that, you know, Cal probably could have done a little better in making sure he was.

Lowe's Advertiser (48:33)

I don't know. Was Kenny Payne here when Khalil was here? Because Kenny Payne was a big part of like stopping Cal's worst instincts from hurting the play.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (48:42)

Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (48:43)

And when he was gone, I'm not sure there was somebody that played that role. That was Kenny's greatest strength is Cal would go nuts and then Kenny would come back around and build it back up.

Ryan (48:54)

I think Kenny was. Yeah, that should have been. He went to the Knicks around Covid.

Lowe's Advertiser (48:59)

Yeah. Well, either way I will say that and I think but a shout out to our fans who then use that as an opportunity to say really good things because I do. It's clear that made him feel better for whatever was happening. Ryan at that moment.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (49:15)

Another example why Big Blue Nation is the absolute best. This guy left in January, but still when he needed a helping hand, Big Blue next is going to reach out and try to help the guy.

Lowe's Advertiser (49:23)

By the way, the girl who came up during our show at the Mountain Laurel Festival, the Queen candidate.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (49:29)

Yes.

Lowe's Advertiser (49:29)

She ended up being named.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (49:31)

She won.

Lowe's Advertiser (49:31)

She was named Queen.

Matt Jones (49:32)

Who got thrown in the lake? That's what I want to know.

Lowe's Advertiser (49:35)

The guy with the mustache that was with her. Remember the guy with the mustache that walked up?

Matt Jones (49:39)

Yeah.

Lowe's Advertiser (49:39)

And I said, are you going to throw the people in the lake? Are you going to get thrown? Turns out he was the one.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (49:44)

There we go.

Lowe's Advertiser (49:45)

Got thrown in the leg. So no KSR curse.

Stockton Mortgage Advertiser (49:47)

No.

Lowe's Advertiser (49:47)

The one that showed ends up becoming Queen. Thank you all very much. We'll be at the bar tomorrow and Thursday.

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