2025-05-28- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

KSR Podcast Episode Summary
Title: KSR - Hour 1
Release Date: May 28, 2025
Host: Matt Jones
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM)

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1. KSR Golf Scramble Overview

The episode kicks off with Matt Jones discussing the upcoming KSR Golf Scramble, highlighting its record turnout. With 46 teams participating across two courses, the event expects nearly 200 attendees, marking the highest participation to date.

Notable Quote:
Matt Jones [02:09]: "They have almost 200 people out there at the golf course."

Ryan Lemon adds a competitive edge, proudly stating his status as the defending champion with most of his team returning.

Ryan Lemon [02:20]: "I am the defending champion and have three fourths of my squad back."

2. Community Engagement and Local Events

Matt shares his plans to attend a pasta dinner at the McCreary County Girls Middle and High School Basketball Banquet, emphasizing his connection to the local community. He recounts a humorous incident where a friend impersonated Matt Heisenbuttle, leading to amusing confusion among attendees.

Notable Incident:
A turkey hunter friend of Matt's pretended to be Matt Heisenbuttle, signing autographs and misleading fans about the quarterback’s presence.

3. Development Controversy in Lexington

A significant portion of the discussion centers around a proposed development project in Lexington's Highlands. The plan involves replacing the aging Mid City Mall with a six-story mixed-use building comprising retail on the first floor and housing units above. Matt expresses support for increasing housing availability to address cost concerns.

Notable Quote:
Matt Jones [07:51]: "People always complain about the cost of housing. If you want more housing, you know what you got to do? You got to build housing."

However, the project faces opposition from local residents who fear increased congestion and privacy invasions. Matt becomes particularly irked when he realizes that a woman protesting the development is essentially voicing concerns about his own property.

Notable Quote:
Matt Jones [09:38]: "She's standing in my yard really pointing to what people could see. But it's my house."

4. UK Sports: Offensive Line Coach Controversy

The conversation shifts to University of Kentucky (UK) sports, specifically criticizing the recent extension and raise of offensive line coach Will Wolford despite the team's poor performance. Matt and his co-hosts argue that Wolford's tenure has coincided with some of the worst offensive lines in the Stoops era, questioning the rationale behind rewarding underperformance.

Notable Quote:
Matt Jones [19:25]: "We have two of the worst offensive lines of the Stoops era, objectively, are the two years he's been in charge."

Drew Franklin and Ryan Lemon echo similar sentiments, expressing frustration over the decision and the apparent disregard for team performance in favor of loyalty.

5. Caller Segment: Rick Patino and Billy Gillespie Discussion

Caller Zach engages in a nostalgic discussion about former coaches Rick Patino and Billy Gillespie. The conversation explores the idea of honoring Billy Gillespie's contributions by inviting him back for special events, despite his mixed legacy.

Notable Interaction:
Matt Jones: "Would you have an interest? Who's he coaching?"
Ryan Lemon: "Tarleton."

The hosts humorously debate the feasibility and reception of such an event, reflecting on past relationships and the potential impact on the fan base.

6. Caller Segment: Landon's Confrontation

Caller Landon brings a humorous moment to the show by confronting Matt about missing work related to a fictitious "woolly worm woman." The exchange is lighthearted, highlighting the playful rapport between the hosts and listeners.

Notable Interaction:
Landon: "Let me tell you something else about Cameron too. He would have had that wire pulled last week if he doesn't take 20-minute smoke breaks every hour."

7. Politics and Sports Crossover: Bruce Pearl's Senate Ambitions

A lively discussion arises around Bruce Pearl, the Auburn basketball coach, contemplating a Senate run. The hosts debate the implications of sports figures entering politics, questioning both the qualifications and public perception of such transitions.

Notable Quote:
Matt Jones [37:21]: "Bruce Pearl could run for Senate, just because of the kind of person he is."

Ryan Lemon and Drew Franklin express varying degrees of skepticism and amusement, pondering how Pearl's energetic coaching persona would translate into a political landscape.

8. Final Caller Segment: Jerry on Offensive Line Performance

Caller Jerry voices strong dissatisfaction with the UK's offensive line performance under Will Wolford. He shares his disillusionment by choosing not to renew his season tickets, underscoring the frustration among fans regarding the team's strategy and coaching decisions.

Notable Quote:
Caller Jerry: "If you want to see an offensive line that bad, the 82 team, you can watch them on YouTube."

9. Closing Remarks

Matt wraps up the first hour by acknowledging the passionate feedback from listeners and setting the stage for continued discussions in the next segment.

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Key Takeaways:

• KSR Golf Scramble is set to break participation records, fostering community engagement.
• Local Development in Lexington sparks debate over housing needs versus community preservation.
• UK Sports faces internal criticism regarding coaching decisions impacting team performance.
• Sports and Politics intersect with discussions on coaches contemplating political careers.
• Listener Interaction remains a cornerstone of the show, blending humor with serious discourse.

Notable Quotes for Reference:

• Matt Jones [02:09]: "They have almost 200 people out there at the golf course."
• Matt Jones [07:51]: "People always complain about the cost of housing. If you want more housing, you know what you got to do? You got to build housing."
• Matt Jones [09:38]: "She's standing in my yard really pointing to what people could see. But it's my house."
• Matt Jones [19:25]: "We have two of the worst offensive lines of the Stoops era, objectively, are the two years he's been in charge."
• Matt Jones [37:21]: "Bruce Pearl could run for Senate, just because of the kind of person he is."

This episode of KSR delves deep into local community issues, sports controversies, and the evolving relationship between athletics and politics, all while maintaining an engaging and interactive format with its listeners.

Transcript

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Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio Wednesday, May 28th. I'm Matt Jones here on Wednesday in Lexington, Kentucky. Little overcast cloudy day but we are here at the KS Bar and Grill. Love to have you join us. Dollar wings all day and night. Had a big wings day last week. Bring it out again today. We are here today and tomorrow if you're, if you're that and then Friday KSR golf scramble. You can give us a shout on the Clark's puppet shop phone line. 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254. In this edition sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office called TJ he'll make them pay. KSR Golf Scramble. Drew, I just found out yesterday 46 teams over two courses be the most we've ever had. We've never had more than like 34, 46 teams. So they're gonna be like almost 200 people out there at the golf course. It did occur to me Ryan Lemon can't putt on both courses. So we may have to make Mario or somebody a putter because we don't. We're not, we're not gonna have that like. So Ryan will only be able to pick one.

[Ryan Lemon]

So I heard you're on the big blue course and I'm on the wildcat course. Well, I'll remind everyone I am the defending champion and I have three fourths of my squad back. So these 200 people will be competing for second.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it's. I think it's 22 on one course, 24 on the other. And there are. There. I'm told that on both courses, there's a lot of alcohol. Like, a lot.

[Ryan Lemon]

I saw some in the office yesterday where they're collecting it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, there's a lot. Like, a lot. We ended up having a lot of alcohol companies sponsor holes and just so everybody pace yourself. You know, I've been in the clubhouse as those things end. Just, you know, they say slow and steady wins the race. I think you just need to keep that in mind.

[Ryan Lemon]

Well, I will be ubering to the show on Friday. Always play it safe because I will be partaking. But I've already arranged to have a day out there.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so today for me, I think there are two big stories, and I want to get to both of them. But before we do that, two quick things. First of all, do you know what I'm doing tonight? This is one of those things where, you know, people get on me for various stuff, but they don't necessarily see some of these things like I'm doing tonight. Do you know what I'm doing tonight?

[Drew Franklin]

I HEAR it involves McCreery County.

[Matt Jones]

I am driving to either Pine Knot or Stearns. I don't know which one.

[Drew Franklin]

Don't know yet.

[Matt Jones]

I. It's. It's on the map for the McCreary County Girls Middle and high school basketball banquet as the guest.

Something Ryan would do.

Yeah, it is. But you know what? When it's eastern Kentucky, I, you, they. You. They. They pull at my strings. So I'm driving down there. They asked me to come. It's a pasta dinner.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, nice.

[Ryan Lemon]

That's why you're going.

[Matt Jones]

It's a pasta dinner. You know, McCree county is known for its pasta.

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't realize that it is.

[Matt Jones]

They. They say you go to Bologna in Italy or. Or Stearns, and I'm. I'm going down there and I'm looking forward to it, but I'm getting my car and going to McCreary county and then turn around and coming right back, so. So there you go.

[Drew Franklin]

I can give you a couple my jokes if you want to use those tonight.

[Matt Jones]

You mean like speaking joke?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, the John Caliperi Room of full timeout joke. That's always a killer.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I don't. I don't need your jokes. I'm more of a. I'm more of an improv comic when it comes To. I. You know, I'm just going to tell these people, follow your dreams right now.

[Drew Franklin]

Was. Is McCurry County. Was that we used to do the show in the library? Was that McCurry County?

[Matt Jones]

Well, no, we. Yes, actually, we did the. We did the show where the horse walked by McCree County Library.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

It's also where the Jesus gym is where every weight is named for a biblical figure.

[Ryan Lemon]

I haven't heard of that one.

[Matt Jones]

You haven't heard of that?

[Ryan Lemon]

That doesn't sound familiar.

[Matt Jones]

It'd be like Corinthians. You know, barbells. No, I'm, I'm. I'm not. We played with the Ramel Bradley Joe Crawford Basketball Tour. We played at the Jesus gym in McCreary County. That was the game where Matt Heisenbuttle couldn't come. And so my friend the turkey hunter just played and said he was Matt Heisenbuttle and no one noticed.

[Drew Franklin]

Gave autographs after the game.

[Matt Jones]

He literally signed Matt Heisenbuttle autographs, Shannon. And no one knew what Matt Heisenbuttle looked like. And so they. He signed them all. All the whole time. And the thing is, that may sound bad, but everybody got the thought. Thought they got to meet Mad Heis.

[Drew Franklin]

That's true. Yes.

[Matt Jones]

So why wouldn't. Why wouldn't you.

[Drew Franklin]

You're breaking kids hearts right now hearing this for the first time. Wait a minute. That was not.

[Matt Jones]

I think that's. That was 2009, so 8. So I think those people are probably all adults at this.

Do you ever sign any Dave Fleming autographs?

Okay. You don't?

I'm just wondering.

Have a seat there, folks. So anyway, I'm doing. I'm doing that tonight.

[Drew Franklin]

Good luck tonight.

[Matt Jones]

Also, I told a story on the podcast yesterday, which I'll talk more about that podcast later, but I want to retell it on the air here because I meant to complain about this on the air and I didn't get a chance. And I told this on the podcast with Drew yesterday. And I want to see. Shannon, if you and Ryan think this is outrageous, as I.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay, let's hear it.

[Matt Jones]

All right. In Louisville, you know I live in the Highlands.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

And you know, next to me is the Mid City Mall. People in Louisville know what the Mid City mall is. The rest of state might not. The Mid City Mall is like a mall, but I use that term, Shannon, very loosely. Right.

Like theater in it.

It's more like a strip mall, but it is inside. Everything's inside. There are a couple really nice things. There's a Grocery store. And there's a. Not as a cool, like, movie theater, but it's. Shannon, you would agree, broken down, kind of dilapidated.

Sure.

It was built in the 70s, probably needs to be replaced.

You can tell it was built in the 70s by looking at it.

It's a 70s building in an. It's.

[Drew Franklin]

I can picture it right now.

[Matt Jones]

It's time to kind of. When you. It's because you've been to my house many times. So you know what this building is?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know which one it is.

[Matt Jones]

It's the one mall next to me. You know how there's all houses and then there's a mall?

It's the mall next to Skyline.

Next to Skyline.

Yeah.

The back door bar that I've taken you to before. That's in mid. Okay, thank you very much for your help.

[Ryan Lemon]

All right, so anyway, the concussion from the trash can.

[Matt Jones]

There used to be a bar there. It closed.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Long story short, they're talking about replacing it. And. And the big question is, what do you put. And there's a developer that's come up with the idea. Let's put a six story building up retail on the first floor, housing the other six, five. Now, I don't have a strong view about this. My view, though, is people always complain about the cost of housing. If you want more housing, you know what you got to do? You got to build housing. Like, you can't complain about the cost of housing and not build more.

[Drew Franklin]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

Housing. It'll be weird to have a six story building in the Highlands. But Shannon, you know what? Progress, right? We got to move forward.

Right.

As long as it's not pickleball, I'm.

Good to be my suggestion. No joke.

I had to listen to that stupid. I would.

Would you move?

Yes, I would move. If they put pickleball there, I'm out. I've lived there for 17 years. I'm out.

Oh, that's great.

So anyway, they had a town hall meeting about. All right. I didn't even know about it. Now you can make a strong argument. There's not one person in that neighborhood whose house will be more affected by this than me. Would you agree, Drew? Shannon, would you agree? You know where it is.

Oh, yeah.

Like, whose house is gonna be more affected than mine? I'm right there on it.

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[Matt Jones]

No one even told me there was a meeting. Like, literally didn't even get noticed. But you know what? It's fine. I wouldn't have gone anyway.

[Ryan Lemon]

You just want to be invited.

[Matt Jones]

It's like a Party. I don't want to go. Just invite me. But I didn't know. But what I did see was a news story about the, about the meeting. They had a news story. They showed the people complaining. A lot of people in our neighborhood don't want it. They're like, it'll be an eyesore. It'll bring too many people here. It'll be, you know, you know how people are. They just, they get upset. But here's the part of the story that bothered me. They were like one concerned citizen is worried that with a six story building people will be able to look down into their yard. And they show this woman standing there complaining in front of the yard. And then I realized it's my house really. She's standing in my yard really pointing to what people could see. But it's my house. She doesn't live.

[Drew Franklin]

Where does she live?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know but I know where she doesn't live. My house. I think I know where she lives and she's down the block and it won't affect her. But yet Shannon, she stole my standing to act like this was her house.

Well, she's being your voice. She knew you want to show up.

She's in my yard acting like it's her house. So she's using for her agenda. She's using my house. And I talked about it yesterday on the podcast and I'm getting more angry thinking about it because what if I'm for it, Shannon? I don't know if I am or not but what if I'm for it and she's acting like it's my house.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I, I, I think we've solved the mystery. She was in charge of inviting you to the meeting. She didn't invite you cuz her get.

[Matt Jones]

To speak for me.

[Drew Franklin]

I think she does. That was her plan.

[Matt Jones]

She true you wondered if maybe she was living in my yard and I.

[Ryan Lemon]

Just, Yeah, I think maybe you didn't know she was there the whole time.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe in that car. Is that car still back there? She was living in the back seat.

She's living in the car back there.

[Ryan Lemon]

When's the last time you checked?

[Matt Jones]

14 years ago. That car has not been opened in 14.

[Ryan Lemon]

Do you worry a little bit about people being able to, you know Peeping Toms in the highlands. They're everywhere. Spying on you in your backyard.

[Matt Jones]

What am I doing?

Your whitey tighties.

[Ryan Lemon]

You mow with your shirt off.

[Matt Jones]

Don't you walk around with in a banana hammock. But you know what? I don't If I have to stop that for progress, for the community.

[Ryan Lemon]

Do you have blinds? Curtains?

[Matt Jones]

I'll have blinds. I didn't for a few years, but I do now. But don't you feel like that's kind of rude to stand in my yard and complain about something where you don't even live there?

[Drew Franklin]

I think she was your voice. She thought maybe she could do it better.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. You say it.

[Ryan Lemon]

She doesn't speak for your yard.

[Matt Jones]

I think it's kind of genius on her part.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

See, now you can't lay back there and sunbathe in your backyard because you.

[Drew Franklin]

Got people get your golf club out.

[Matt Jones]

Take some practice swing and want them to be there.

[Ryan Lemon]

I think they knocked on your door for an interview, you weren't home. And she sees the opportunity. Yeah, people love being on the local news, complaining about things. I think she just stepped into your spot.

[Matt Jones]

Do people do love to be on the local news? Well, so I don't know who this woman is. I think I know where she lives and she might get a sternly, stay out of my yard.

[Ryan Lemon]

Let's go do the radio show in her yard.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, there we go.

[Ryan Lemon]

Media to her.

[Matt Jones]

You're now and get off my lawn phase. I love it.

It's not about get off my lawn phase.

[Drew Franklin]

It's just when do you think they'll have a decision made?

[Matt Jones]

I think they're having another town hall in like a week.

[Drew Franklin]

Are you going to that one?

[Matt Jones]

Of course not. I'm not going to anything. It's let them do what they like. I don't care, as long as it's not pickleball. Now, if I hear it's pickleball, I'll go to that meeting, step in to complain. Now, Otago way, you know, it's. The decision has to be done by midnight and most other people have made their decision. There's only like a couple people left to make their decision. Are you at all worried, Drew, that It's we're now 14 hours away and we don't know? I mean, am I going to be coming back from McCurry county hitting refresh, like, what's happening?

[Ryan Lemon]

I've been zero percent worried and I'm even less than zero percent worried now that Darrell Byrd's down in Destin and Pope told him last night away has a workout today. So I wouldn't blame him at all to get one more workout in and then announce I said this all along. He should go to the final minute if there's something he could do in the process. Because if he comes back, campus is just empty. What's he gonna do? He might as well just take these free trips.

[Matt Jones]

So you take the news of the other workout as a positive. See, I would have taken it at least a little.

[Ryan Lemon]

I just have. I mean, the mock drafts don't know everything, but I have not seen anything that indicates he's gonna get picked where he wants to get picked. Maybe behind the scenes he's hearing that, but I haven't seen a peep of that. So I just see it as, why not get another job interview? Eventually he's gonna want to get hired by one of these organizations. If they're going to fly you out today, sure. What else are you going to do? Come sit in an empty election where the team's not even here? I would take it to the final minute if he has the opportunity.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. If that's the case, he's got to work out with somebody maybe just getting good with this team for next year. So I can see him wanting to do that. And then after.

[Matt Jones]

You still have no worry.

[Drew Franklin]

I really don't.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't know about this workout. I thought he would do it yesterday when everybody else was doing Alex Condon, you know, all these SEC guys, a lot of these were pulling out.

[Matt Jones]

The only two people left or what, the kid from R.J. lewis from St. John's and away. And I think R.J. lewis actually has a decision to make.

[Ryan Lemon]

So, I mean, let's say he knows he's coming back, but the Lakers call, like, we want to fly out here on Wednesday. Absolutely. You should go.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemon]

I mean, I don't know that's where he is.

[Matt Jones]

Unless they think he might stay in.

[Ryan Lemon]

I mean, they're all just going through this. They know next year he'll be a candidate. I mean, they're all doing. They're all hosting visits up until the last minute.

[Matt Jones]

All right, I'm gonna. You know.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, you're getting a little worried.

[Matt Jones]

Well, no, I just. I contacted my person, that is my person on these sort of issues, and I said, do we know what time this is going to be? Thinking I was going to get something like, oh, it's later today. Don't worry about it. Or maybe it'll be during. And the answer was just like, I don't know, not sure. And that makes me just a little worried. Like, do people. You know, I think he would have.

[Ryan Lemon]

To really hate school to. To just take that gamble of the NBA knowing what's right on the table. Just come pick a lot of money.

[Matt Jones]

Right It's a lot of.

[Ryan Lemon]

That's the thing for me if you're in his shoes, it seems to be a pretty easy decision.

[Matt Jones]

A lot of money. So I, that's, that's the one thing I would say is at the end of the day, most decisions in life you say follow the money. It's a lot of money for him to come back.

[Drew Franklin]

So if he'd stayed, that's almost like half of what he would get here, wouldn't it be?

[Matt Jones]

But you might get that Chris Livingston thing where he had the four year deal and it locked it up. I don't know, maybe he's heard that. Don't get me wrong, I still think he's coming back. But I'm, I'm surprised we're here. We're sitting here waiting until the last hour.

[Ryan Lemon]

I'm probably putting too much stock in the mock drafts but if he were like projected fringe second round like at the top of the second round then I'd be a little more worried. But I just haven't seen anything suggesting that he's going to be picked where because he wants to be a first round pick.

[Matt Jones]

Mark Stoops made a decision yesterday. That decision. Yeah. I don't know. We'll talk about it right after this. It's ksr.

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back techie sports radio text machine is 772-774-5254. Are you folks worried about away doesn't seem like a lot of people are but are you confident he's going to be back These guys are guess I'm the only one. Just a little bit like is the last day but you know maybe he'll do it during the show by the time you listen to some podcast maybe it's already happened.

[Drew Franklin]

True I go back to pope said he would you to his roster was finalized he did so I feel like him going on A lot of times.

[Matt Jones]

We break the news at 1205. That's kind of a thing that does happen a lot.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemon]

So the thing though with his workout today, if I said the Lakers I have no clue where he is but if he is on the west coast it might end up being late just because that you know he's going to go through the workout.

[Matt Jones]

When we were all hit refresh for Hamadu Diallo into the night that wasn't a workout.

[Ryan Lemon]

Didn't he just forget?

[Matt Jones]

He forgot to send in his papers. Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Lemon]

I think Jackson Robinson worked out on the last day last year too.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so Mark Stoops and UK give a one give a year extension. So a lot assistant coach are generally on a one year contract. Coordinators tend to be on a two year. Will Wolford had one year left on his contract. They've now extended it to two years left on his contract and they gave him $100,000 raise. The offensive line coach. This is after a year where the offensive line was absolutely horrendous and our quarterback by the end of the year could barely walk and quit football because he got beat up so much. You know we all had misgivings about Will Wolford being hired.

[Drew Franklin]

Eric.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, and him too. Both of them. I didn't, I didn't. I see. I was hoping we got Will.

[Drew Franklin]

You're saying we got Eric.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so Eric Wolford. I wasn't pleased with this news. What about you all?

[Ryan Lemon]

I didn't see anyone that was pleased. Even when pretty universal. When Lucky put it out, he had a little scoop. When I saw it I was like oh this is not going to be received well. I mean I really think he did a good job loading up for this next year and the line will be better. But give him the raise a year from now if that pans out. How do you give him a raise when as you said he got a quarterback retired and one of his linemen were buying hot dogs during a game on a team that didn't win. Like how do you get a raise after that?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean we've had two of the craziest quarterback stories of all time. We had a quarterback miss the Tennessee game to take the lsat which that'll never be topped. Skipping your final game to take the LSAT when you would have been the starting quarterback is an all timer. But also just being like I don't like football anymore because it hurts too much because of our off it. Like those are two amazing stories and to give that guy an extension and a raise. Ryan, I mean he had a year left they didn't have to do it. I don't get it.

[Drew Franklin]

There's no doubt that Wolford is Stoops. Ride or die. I mean, he is going. Ain't gonna hang on that, go up, fight that on that hill for him. You had him on the show and he talked about it. You really defended him as a coach, as a recruiter. But the. The results when he was here the first time and now even the second time don't seem to back up the praise.

[Matt Jones]

Our two worst offensive lines of the Stoops era, objectively, are the two years he's been in charge.

[Drew Franklin]

That's. That's fair.

[Matt Jones]

That's just a fact. You could make an argument that the two years he was in charge, we had worse offensive lines than when we stunk in Stoops, his first and second years. How do you give that a raise? And the. He's his boy. You know, to me, that's like, starting to seem like the last year or two a cow. You know, Bruiser's my friend, right? Chin and I get along.

[Ryan Lemon]

Trying to hire my son, Brad.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, what's the difference? He now has. I'm not saying these guys aren't good coaches, but objectively, he now has his brother on staff. He's had his brother on staff, and he's got, like, two of his best friends. I mean, there comes a point where, you know, I'm not against you having your friends, but we can't have your friends and go four and eight.

[Ryan Lemon]

I'm almost more confused, like, how did this get approved? What did he take to Mitch Barnhart's desk to get this signed? Mitch, we're already short on money with revenue sharing. Stoops has a big buyout they might get to. How is anyone getting a raise on that staff right now?

[Matt Jones]

Do we know when this was done? Did Luckett say, did this happen?

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah, it's been a few months.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. So, like, he might argue. Well, he would have gone somewhere else, but, I mean, part of me would go. So right then that staff is very.

[Ryan Lemon]

Well taken care of. Someone put it on KS Board. Board of where they rank at each position, coach in the country of getting paid. There's a lot of top 10 assistant coaches over there. I don't know how you put more money into it after the last season.

[Matt Jones]

I just don't. Listen, I can be talked into. The offensive line wasn't as good last year for X and Y reasons, but he'll be better this year. I don't know if I believe it, but I Could be talked into it. I don't know how you give a man a raise who produced the worst offensive line we've had in a decade. Plus, I don't know how you give him a race. I don't know how you give him an extension, let him play out this year. Most. Most college assistant coaches especially. I mean, most of them are on a year deal. Say, let's. Let's talk about it at the end of the year. I. I don't get this. This is one of those. No, this is after. Like, after the year with Oscar and all, where we lost to Kansas State and we all agreed that we. We need a shot in the arm, and the story was the staff's going to be the same. This is like. I just. I think it's almost like it's completely tone deaf to the fan base.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm asking this because I don't know the answer. Is he killing it in the recruiting.

[Matt Jones]

Battles, what we have? I think he did fine. But, you know, I mean, we got pretty much every kid that played in New Mexico, and will that work? Maybe. I don't know.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah, we won't know till the fall. It does look like on paper they got a good offensive line class, but you don't reward him for it until.

[Drew Franklin]

You know, our center is going to be a guy from Western Kentucky.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Jaggers back, and they might be good.

[Matt Jones]

But shouldn't we wait and see if they're good before we give him a raise in another year?

[Ryan Lemon]

Yes, absolutely.

[Drew Franklin]

Unless he. You think he was in that high demand with other schools, considering the money.

[Matt Jones]

We spend on the offense line, to say he got good players? It's sort of like Chris Rock saying. You know, when people say, I take care of my kids, you're supposed to get good players. The question is, are you gonna. Are they gonna be better? Because we heard they had good players last year. Yeah, and then they didn't.

[Ryan Lemon]

I need to see the PowerPoint presentation Stoops took to Mitch, how he even sold this and how Mitch wasn't in a quick. No, absolutely.

[Matt Jones]

Look, it's $100,000. It's not my money, whatever. But it does look to me to be like a tone deafness. That is usually the signal of things kind of falling apart, and that's what worries me about it. All right, we'll take your calls. If you agree or disagree, this will be right back ksr.

[Drew Franklin]

I guarantee you Freddie Magg's hot about it.

[Matt Jones]

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[Ryan Lemon]

I keep saying Eric Wills is evil twin.

[Matt Jones]

Eric Wolford is the seventh highest paid offensive line coach in America. That can't be true. What's your name, man? Wes. Wes Ratliff. That's got to be a lot, right? He's not the seventh highest paid off.

They were ranked 115th.

Those numbers we're paying him set where the he's the seventh highest paid offensive line.

[Ryan Lemon]

That math doesn't math so also not forget Alabama didn't like him because the line wasn't good in the year that they came up short.

[Matt Jones]

So what's he been good at? I mean I'm being dead serious.

[Drew Franklin]

That's why I ask you is he killing it in the recruiting rank? Something we don't know about?

[Matt Jones]

What does that do if you come.

And don't play well, good friend. I think that's the answer.

Well, I mean that's nice. It's nice to have good friends but.

[Ryan Lemon]

So Stoops was really defensive of him as you all remember said he's never gotten more calls for any assistant coach ever than he gets, you know, I.

[Matt Jones]

Mean just because everybody likes your girlfriend doesn't mean that you should be with him. I mean that maybe it's even the.

[Drew Franklin]

You know, that Drew said it. Stoops was definitely some, you know, almost over protecting him when you were talking to him about him.

[Matt Jones]

Mean the opposite.

[Ryan Lemon]

Remember he said in this maybe he deserves credit for not a hundred thousand dollars but credit. He said when I get there every morning he's the first assistant coach in.

[Matt Jones]

That's nice.

[Ryan Lemon]

I know. I'm not saying that warrants a raise. I'm just saying Stoops is very.

[Matt Jones]

I mean he might bring the coffee. That's Nice.

Hey, I'm the first person in on this show. Do I get a hundred thousand dollar raise?

Yeah, I mean, the first person in. It reminds me of when you ask somebody about a person and you're like, tell me about Dan. And when the first thing somebody says is, well, he's really nice, I'm immediately skeptical that Dan is going to be helpful. No, I mean, like, as a buddy of mine once used to say, nice, nice. Everybody's nice. Like, I need to know something else about them being first in.

[Ryan Lemon]

There's also giving him an extension when he has already proven he will leave you in a heartbeat.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemon]

While he's in your rental car on a recruiting visit, he will leave you.

[Matt Jones]

Doc Vandegrift quit football. He got hurt so much he quit football. Who's up first? Shannon.

Let's go to Zach.

Zach, go ahead, Zach.

[G]

What's up, Matt? So I was having a debate with a friend the other day and I thought maybe you could solve it. We were talking about how we thought it was awesome that Rick Patino came back for Big Blue Madness last year and that like. And I said that I think one day we'll forgive Billy Gillespie until we'll get a warm welcome at Ref Arena. And they said no way that ever happened.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean, let's. I think so. I agree with you.

[G]

Rick is worse than Billy.

[Matt Jones]

But Rick had success here. So, like, there were good parts of that relationship. Here's what I think will happen with, I don't know, betrayal.

[G]

Like, it was the worst.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but Billy never had any success. I mean, there was never any moment to feel great about. Whereas with Rick, we want an ass national championship and had some of our most fun years of all time. That's a good question, though. I appreciate the call. Let's. If Billy Gillespie wanted to come back to Kentucky, let's see, when did he start coaching? 2007. So let's say that in 2027, his 20th anniversary, you're the AD and you get a phone call. Hey, Billy's people would like to just come. What's. What's your answer?

[Ryan Lemon]

I say, are you sure? And if he sat on it, you bring him back. And there'd probably be a few boos. I don't think it'd be a route a loud applause. It'd be more like a. All right. Kind of like when they just bring out other than to bring the science Club out. But if he wanted to come back, I don't think you just deny him that. That moment.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. What do you think I. I think.

[Drew Franklin]

You invited back because. Not what he did here, but I think, you know, he's had this health issues. I mean, he, he mean, I don't know if he's ever gonna get back into coaching. I think as time passes, you know, you see the guy for the person and I think his health issues, I.

[Matt Jones]

Think, I mean his off the. Is off the court was not exactly the most stellar thing in the world during his two year. It's not like, I mean, you have a.

[Drew Franklin]

20 years that has passed. Yeah. And he was SEC coach of the year his first year.

[Matt Jones]

So is that what you do, Shannon? You just give like a. 20 years ago.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Billy Gillespie was SEC coach of the year.

Everyone give him a round saying, you know, he's become more of a sympathetic figure because I don't disagree with you. But. But I, I think you bring him back, but I don't think you bring him out on the court. You know, just have him, have him.

Just let him run in the hang out.

Yeah. You know, and you could say, oh, there's Billy Gillespie over there.

Because here's the thing. Everyone who's ever coached here has either gotten their moment to soak up the fans or will John Cal Peri will get that one day. Yes. Do we want to have the only guy? Because even Eddie Sutton got it.

[Drew Franklin]

He did.

[Matt Jones]

And Eddie Sutton put us on pro. I mean, Eddie Sutton. The program got even lower than it did with Billy. Everyone's gotten it. Do we want to just have this one guy who's the only person we've never embraced back here?

[Ryan Lemon]

I'd be for it. I'm not saying call him up and, you know, put it on the calendar like we got to make this happen. But if he were interested in coming back. Yes. Let him have the experience. I even say introduce him. Maybe not as the why. Like I said, I don't think be the you.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think it's Billy over there in section 114. Rosie.

He comes out randomly when the cheerleaders do the U and then does the U and then skirts off the court.

[Ryan Lemon]

But I mean, I don't think we should just like ban him from ever coming back. He's still coaching, by the way, right?

[Drew Franklin]

He is still coaching.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so how about that? Would you have an interest? Who's he coaching?

[Ryan Lemon]

Tarleton.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, he's still. Okay. Would you be interested in scheduling the game with him? They're to be there. D1.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah. I don't go out of my way. I'm not calling Him. But if he calls and really wants.

[Matt Jones]

Wouldn'T that be the easiest way to do it? Wouldn't the easiest way to do it be to play Tarleton and when they go and the coach of Tarleton, Billy Gillespie and then that's it.

[Drew Franklin]

That's perfect. I think it's the best way to do it.

[Matt Jones]

Wouldn't that be the best way to do it?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Lemon]

Play a highlight video. It'd be about the length of a.

[Matt Jones]

TikTok, but the highlight going to be block, free throw.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah. What is Perry Stevenson's dunks?

[Matt Jones]

Really good question. What's the Billy Gillespie highlight video? Okay, you're going to have him. What was his entrance at the first big Blue man?

[Ryan Lemon]

Oh, that's what they do. They drop the curtain before the.

[Matt Jones]

Drop the curtain.

[Ryan Lemon]

Like an abracadabra.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so he dropped the curtain. There he is. What else was a highlight?

[Drew Franklin]

Rebel had a good year that first year when Billy was SEC coach of the year. Gotta be some Romel stuff.

[Matt Jones]

We have that game where the guy flipped. Flipped off Nick Collatis and he missed the free throw.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemon]

Well, you could do Jody. Jody Meeks highlights. But Billy would say don't put him in there. It's not about him.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

All right. This is how we bring him back. All right, you celebrate Jody Meeks 20 year anniversary of him breaking the scoring record. And then Billy's there.

[Ryan Lemon]

Billy who hated it, who hated him.

[Matt Jones]

And I think Jody hated Billy. But put that to the side.

[Ryan Lemon]

What about. There was always the rumor that there were T shirts made and Billy hit him. That Jody Meeks. I think they might have been witness or something playing off the LeBron. There was some kind of Jody Meeks T shirt that Billy allegedly didn't let see the light of day. Maybe we dragged those out of the attic. Pass those around.

[Matt Jones]

I just feel like we don't want to be the school that. Because you're right, he is a sad figure. Now. He had what, a liver transplant?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And so.

[Drew Franklin]

Or so liver, kidney, something.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, something like that. But anyway, it's a good question. Do I think it'll ever happen? I could see Mark Pope doing it.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I can't too.

[Matt Jones]

I could see Mark Pope doing it.

[Ryan Lemon]

I have an idea. And they would never do this, but if I were in charge of marketing, I would set this up. You have Billy run out of the tunnel and 50 yards behind him. Cutler runs. He's chasing him through the arena and just run out another tunnel. Just have a really good run.

[Drew Franklin]

That would be really good.

[Matt Jones]

You just hit what they need to do. Who's next?

Landon.

Landon. Go ahead. I'd pay for that.

[H]

Hey, what's going on, guys?

[Matt Jones]

Go ahead, Landon.

[H]

What's going on? Yeah, I'm calling in regards to Cameron calling in about me missing work yesterday.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, wait a minute. You're Landon who missed work for the woolly worm, right? Is that. Is that who? Am I correct?

[H]

Yeah, I got a couple things to say about that because he's in the next room listening.

[Matt Jones]

Go for it.

[H]

Okay, so I was sick. There wasn't no woolly worm woman. And second off, Cameron's not my boss. His brother's the boss. I don't know where, like who he thinks he is, but he is not my boss.

[Drew Franklin]

Wow.

[H]

Let me. Let me tell you something else about Cameron too. He would have had that wire pulled last week if he doesn't take 20 minute smoke breaks every hour.

[Matt Jones]

So you think Cameron smokes too much and the wire would already been pulled?

[H]

Oh, yeah, he does. He goes through a pack a day.

[Matt Jones]

That's too many. So you dispute the allegation that you missed work to see a woman in Beattyville?

[H]

Yeah, that did not happen.

[Matt Jones]

Actually.

[H]

Actually, my girlfriend, she lives in Richmond and.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute, that was probably interesting for her to hear that you had a woman in Beattyville if she lives in Richmond. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[H]

I told her and I sent her the clip and she said. She told me to tell you specifically that she does not like being called a woolly worm woman.

[Matt Jones]

All right, well, I apologize to her. You're the one that skipped work though, to be in, baby. But thank you very much. I'm glad to hear things have worked out and I appreciate the call. I did. Somebody reminded me the name of the woman I went to school with who said woolly worm. And that made me happy because I'd forgotten her. I'd forgotten her name. I won't say it here in case. She's probably married with kids now, so I. That's fine.

[Drew Franklin]

Inter office turmoil going here in this office. These guys right beside each other, calling, calling each other out on the radio show.

[Ryan Lemon]

You go see hr.

[Matt Jones]

What do they mean? What does he mean when he says he should have been pulling wire? What is he talking?

[Ryan Lemon]

Well, yesterday the caller that called him out said, we have a wire to pull and he's not here.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, what does that mean, pull wire?

[Drew Franklin]

You know, it could be the cable for cable tv. It could be a telephone.

[Ryan Lemon]

Daniel comes to fix our Internet back there.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, it feels like one person could do that. Why did he quit smoking? Why? They need him to like Shannon. Do you know? I mean, everybody's acting like that. Do you know what it means to pull wire?

No idea. I was kind of wondering the same thing.

I mean, I know no one likes your own wire. I mean, I know we're in a state where everybody acts to like. Act like they know everything about men. Stuff, knowledge. I don't know what it means to pull wire, but it sounds like you don't either. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

You've seen those guys on the side of the road. They got a big, huge spool, big as your car of wire. It's got to go up on the poles.

[Matt Jones]

And is that what it means by pulling wire, Putting up wire?

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe that's what he's talking about.

[Matt Jones]

Because I would think pull means to pull out.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, it may pull it off.

[Ryan Lemon]

The spindle to install it wherever they are. Maybe a big building, maybe.

[Matt Jones]

Do you know that's true or are you just.

[Drew Franklin]

No, I'm trying to talk about what kind of pulling wire they're doing where it might take more than one guy.

[Matt Jones]

So you're guessing.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes. Oh, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. All right. So somebody can answer that for me on the text machine. 772-774-5254. We will take a break and be right back. It's wings day here at KS Bar. Dollar wings all day is Kentucky sports radio.

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[Drew Franklin]

He was limping the whole time.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky sports Radio pulling wire. Seems like a lot of people knew this. That's not us. You pull it, like through the wall and through pipes, and you're basically setting up the wire for the electrician then to kind of connect. So you're. You're. That's the point. So now I learned that.

[Ryan Lemon]

I said installing big buildings. That's kind of what I meant. Okay. Pulling wire. Go way back.

[Matt Jones]

Do you. 859-280-2287. Bruce Pearl reports that he Might consider running for Senate. Tommy Tuberville, the former Auburn football coach, is apparently going to run for governor, give up his Senate seat, which would mean that Bruce Pearl could then run for Senate. I don't know what the Auburn coach to. To politics pipeline is, but I would say I am all for Bruce Pearl running for Senate. Not because I agree with Bruce Pearl. He's a right wing guy. He's probably a lot more right wing to me, although I've met him over the years and I do like him quite a bit. But I would be very happy for him to no longer be the Auburn coach so that they will start to stink again. Drew.

[Ryan Lemon]

I just, when I saw it, I just thought, what, What a country.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I mean, unbelievable.

[Ryan Lemon]

Like, what are his qualifications?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, literally, they could have a scenario where their governor and one of their two senators were Auburn coaches wild.

[Ryan Lemon]

Maybe. Who else is there? He freeze. Could maybe he's up there.

[Matt Jones]

You freeze. He should be the other one. That would be great.

[Ryan Lemon]

And I like Bruce. Big Bruce fan, actually. But it's just hard to imagine him in politics. I know he tweets about it all the time.

[Matt Jones]

I could see it.

[Ryan Lemon]

I just mean the visual of him. I picture Bruce with his shirt ripped off in the Tennessee student section and sweating through his suit in the NCAA tournament.

[Matt Jones]

Leave aside his views. I can totally see him being a senator just because of the kind of person he is. I could see him being a good communicator. I could see him like connecting with the public. You've known him a long time, Ryan. I could see it.

[Drew Franklin]

Very passionate. And he's, you know, he comes across on social media. He's very passionate about a lot of political issues. Passionate about basketball.

[Matt Jones]

Nobody ever said tells him to stick to sports. But yes, he, he very much has some strong opinions.

[Ryan Lemon]

There's not a coach out there that tweets more than I agree.

[Matt Jones]

He. I don't even know another. I mean, what it's like him and maybe Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich. I think those are the coaches that probably do it the most. But he does it a lot, a lot.

[Drew Franklin]

During his basketball season. Got over this year.

[Matt Jones]

Kentucky, like. Do you think if Mark Pope or Mark Stoops were to. Were to do politics, do you think that people would be. Whatever side they were on, do you think people would be okay with that?

[Ryan Lemon]

At Kentucky basketball, I feel like they could ignore it because everyone's just so obsessed with the basketball. But there'd be a lot of people who couldn't forgive if they were tweeting about the opposite side. Side there.

[Matt Jones]

See, I don't think they could do. I, I don't think our fan base. I think he can do it at Alabama because the state is so Republican that he's Republican. And it's like, even the Democrats are like, well, that's just going to be what it is. I think at Kentucky, I just think that, you know, I just don't think it would work. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but I can't. I mean, remember when the players knelt? There's still people that, I mean, burning jerseys. Yeah. So I just don't see it being. I don't see it working.

[Drew Franklin]

If, if, yeah, your basketball coach is winning, you kind of look the other way. But when your football coach is struggling, I don't know if Stoops could do it. I think he might be that.

[Matt Jones]

In 1996, while Rick Patino was. Was coach of Kentucky, he introduced Bill Clinton to. At a presidential rally here in Lexington. That couldn't happen now. Would you like. Like, you. Mark Pope could not introduce Donald Trump or, you know, Kamala Harris at a, like, it just. That. Just. That couldn't happen now. Right. But it happened in 1996.

[Drew Franklin]

It did. You know, there was a time I think even Coach Caliperi was close to.

[Matt Jones]

Like, he was friends with people. I think you can do that. But, like, full on, like, I mean, go read Bruce Pearl's Twitter. It. He'll say. I mean, he'll say a lot of stuff.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he does.

[Matt Jones]

So. But wouldn't you agree it'd be nice for him to run Shannon. So he's not coaching Auburn. No.

Yeah, I'd rather have him in politics than be coaching against us.

Yeah, because he's a great. He's a great coach. That's also maybe part of the reason. I mean, Bruce Pearl could have been the coach here. Been interesting to see. If he had done all that stuff.

[Ryan Lemon]

Here, he'd still be firing those tweets off.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, I think he won't like that.

He will say what he's gonna. What he's gonna say. And to some extent, I respect that, even if I disagree with it. Who's up next?

Jerry.

Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry. 859-280-2287.

[I]

Actually, I was at that Rick Casino rally and he got ripped for doing.

[Matt Jones]

That on stage in 96.

[I]

Well, no, no, at the time, people ripped him for doing. People ripped him for doing that.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I was a kid. I guess I didn't really pay attention. Yeah, but go ahead.

[I]

But anyway, well, this Wolford thing, I mean, geez, man.

[Ryan Lemon]

I thought we were.

[I]

I thought we were gonna change the culture, bring back the old culture, you know, you're accountable for what you did. And all this stuff. And Stoops does this. Okay, that makes me think all that stuff is a smokescreen. It was a smoke screen to get people off his back. He's gonna do it his way. And I'll tell you what, man. Matt, I didn't leave my tickets this year, and they called me twice trying to get me to do it, because I know there'll be a lot of tickets available this fall.

[Matt Jones]

Jerry, you're. You're as big a football fan as we have that calls this show. You didn't renew your tickets?

[I]

No, no, because I was. I was. I was that put out. I was that put out with it.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, go ahead, real quick.

[I]

And they called me twice, okay. Trying to get me to read my tickets and more. The more I see a bit stuff like this, I'm glad I didn't do it. And I'm telling you, if you want to see an offensive line that bad, the 82 team, you can watch them on YouTube.

[Matt Jones]

All right. Appreciate the call, J. I love you. But I will say to uk, because I know you guys, listen, there has been, in the 15 years I've done this show, probably no person who's called this show to talk about football more than him. If that dude is not renewing his season tickets, you got a problem. You just do. I mean, there's nobody who, when we stunk, called more about football than him. That is a bad, bad sign. We'll take a break, Come back hour number two, ksr.