2025-06-02- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

KSR Podcast Episode Summary: Hour 1 (June 2, 2025)

Introduction On June 2, 2025, the "Kentucky Sports Radio" (KSR) crew, hosted by Matt Jones and supported by Shannon and Drew, delved deep into the recent developments in University of Kentucky (UK) baseball. The episode, running from 10 AM to noon, provided listeners with an insightful analysis of the team's performance, challenges, and future prospects as they navigate the NCAA tournament.

Game Recap: Heartbreaking Loss to West Virginia The episode kicked off with Matt Jones reflecting on a disheartening weekend for UK baseball fans. The team faced West Virginia in a nail-biting game that ended in a 13-12 defeat. Matt described the game as "absolutely heartbreaking" (04:00).

• Matt Jones: "They lost 13 to 12 after being up five runs twice over the course of the game... It's the 12th time this year they have lost by one run."

The team had significant leads during the game, at 6-1 and later at 12-7, but faltered with two outs in the eighth inning, allowing six runs that swung the game in West Virginia's favor. This marked the twelfth one-run loss for UK this season, a statistic that underscores the team's struggle to close out tight games.

Listeners' Perspectives: Frustration and Analysis A caller voiced the collective disappointment, highlighting the bullpen's inability to maintain leads.

• Caller (05:10): "It's kind of a fitting ending with the way the bullpens kind of let them down all year. They've blown a lot of leads like that."

Drew echoed similar sentiments, questioning managerial decisions regarding pitching changes. The discussion centered around whether shaking up the bullpen in critical moments could have altered the outcome.

• Drew (06:37): "I would have brought him in just to stop the bleeding. You got to win that game first night."

Matt pondered the ramifications of bullpen fatigue and the strategic uses of pitchers across consecutive games, especially in the high-stakes environment of the NCAA playoffs.

Season Analysis: Overachieving Amidst Challenges The conversation shifted to a broader analysis of the UK baseball season. Matt presented a compelling statistic:

• Matt Jones (20:24): "If you add up all of their SEC games and then these four games that were in the NCAA tournament, they led at one point in 31 of the 35 games."

Despite a 15-19 record, leading in the majority of games suggested that the team was competitive against top-tier opponents. This overachievement was attributed to the infusion of young talent and the coaching prowess of Mingy Own.

• Drew (20:29): "I think you could say they kind of overachieved this year with what they had to work with."

Team Style and Strategy: Embracing Small-Ball Shannon provided insights into UK’s aggressive “small-ball” approach, which emphasizes base-stealing, bunting, and putting pressure on the defense. This strategy has led to opponents making more errors than usual.

• Shannon (12:39): "I love it... they play aggressively, they put pressure on the defense and I think that's why you see so many errors from the other teams."

Matt likened this style to a “Ryan Lemon system,” praising its effectiveness in forcing opponents into mistakes rather than relying solely on power hitters.

• Matt Jones (12:54): "I feel like this is a Ryan Lemon system... that's what you would do if you were in college baseball."

Drew commended the return to foundational baseball tactics, contrasting it with the modern emphasis on power hitting.

• Drew (13:05): "That's the way I played. That's the way I think it should be played."

Future Outlook: Returning Talent and Recruiting Prospects Looking ahead, the crew discussed the potential for improvement in the next season. With key players like Tyler Bell and Hudson Brown returning, there is optimism for enhanced performance. Additionally, the possibility of recruiting star athlete John Wall to engage with the team could be a significant boon.

• Matt Jones (30:18): "Mark Pope reached out to him and asked him to come to Lexington and play pickup and work out with the team. And he's going to try to do that for a few days this summer."

John Wall's involvement is expected to serve as a powerful recruiting tool, attracting prospective athletes who aspire to emulate his success.

Engagement with Callers: Trivia and Historical Insights The episode featured interactive segments with listeners participating in trivia related to UK baseball history. A notable moment involved a caller recalling a marathon high school game from 1970-71, highlighting the enduring passion for baseball in Kentucky.

• Caller (35:03): "After seven innings, the scores tied five to five. They go extras... finally in the bottom of the 22nd inning."

However, Matt later corrected the record, revealing that Jerry Sharp actually threw the first no-hitter for UK in 1959, not Tom Bannon as initially suggested.

• Matt Jones (40:19): "It was not Tom Bannon; it was Jerry Sharp who threw a no-hitter in 1959."

This correction emphasized the importance of accurate historical knowledge among fans and hosts alike.

Infrastructure and Event Management: Addressing Parking Challenges Shannon and Drew discussed logistical issues surrounding venue parking during major events, such as baseball games and concerts. They highlighted the inconveniences faced by attendees, including limited parking options and additional fees.

• Drew (44:10): "They're the nicest people. We're so lucky to have them."

This segment underscored the ongoing challenges in event management and the need for better infrastructure to accommodate fans.

Community and Personal Stories: Interactions with Mark Pope A heartfelt segment featured Bubba, a loyal listener who shared his encounter with UK basketball coach Mark Pope at Arlington National Cemetery. This interaction underscored Pope's approachable nature and his efforts to maintain strong connections with athletes and the community.

• Bubba (46:28): "It was like the wildest thing ever. Nobody around them. I'm by myself."

The discussion highlighted how such interactions can positively influence team morale and community support.

Closing Thoughts: Balancing Expectations and Achievements As the episode neared its end, Matt reflected on the delicate balance between fan expectations and the team's actual performance. While the UK baseball team has made significant strides under Mingy Own, the recurring one-run losses have left some fans frustrated. However, the hosts advocated for recognizing the team's achievements given the limited talent pool and ongoing rebuilding.

• Matt Jones (25:34): "I have to say I almost have no patience for the like state of the program people after this. I understand being frustrated about the result of the game and how it ended up happening."

The episode concluded on an optimistic note, emphasizing the potential for growth and success in the upcoming seasons.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Matt Jones (04:00): "They lost 13 to 12 after being up five runs twice over the course of the game."
• Caller (05:10): "It's kind of a fitting ending with the way the bullpens kind of let them down all year."
• Shannon (12:39): "I love it... they play aggressively, they put pressure on the defense."
• Drew (13:05): "That's the way I played. That's the way I think it should be played."
• Matt Jones (25:34): "I have to say I almost have no patience for the like state of the program people after this."

Conclusion The June 2, 2025, episode of KSR provided a comprehensive look into the University of Kentucky's baseball team, blending game analysis, statistical insights, and community interactions. Hosts Matt Jones, Shannon, and Drew navigated through the complexities of the team's recent performances, offering both critique and commendation. The discussion highlighted the resilience of the team, the strategic execution of small-ball tactics, and the promising future buoyed by returning talent and potential high-profile recruiting. Despite the sting of recent losses, the KSR crew remains optimistic about UK baseball's trajectory, encouraging fans to appreciate the journey and stay engaged with the team's progression.

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[Shannon]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome everyone, Kentucky Sports Radio Monday, June 2nd. I am Matt Jones. It is beautiful day. You can give us a shout on the Clark's Puppet shop phone line. 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-77-45254. In this issue, sponsored by the T.J. smith Law Office. Call T.J. he'll make them pay. I kind of consider Ryan the Usually people say after Memorial Day, for some reason when it turns to June, that's when I consider summer like June, July and August. And even though the weather hasn't totally felt like it yet, I feel like we are entering the summertime officially in my mind today.

[Drew]

Well, I think you're gonna get your wish. It's supposed to be in the 80s, I think the next three days. So the summer is going to kind of rush in pretty quick with June. So you may be dead on about that.

[Matt Jones]

It is, yeah. It's supposed to be beautiful after. I think we had more rain from January to March than like in the last 50 years, but hopefully the summer is better. Drew is in Lexington with Ryan. Shannon is in Louisville. Guys, it was a, I don't know, disappointing weekend. Well, oddly, I guess it goes back and forth. The UK baseball team loses last night in an absolutely heartbreaking game. They lost 13 to 12 after being up five runs twice over the course of the game, they've gotten up 6 to 1 and 12 to 7 and end up even though it was 12 to 7 with two outs in the eighth inning. They give up six runs with two outs on the board and end up going down 13 to 12. It is the 12th time this year they have lost by one run. And to give you a sense what that means, if you add the previous four seasons combined, they had lost by one run 12 times. And they lost by one run 12 times this season as well. Just a brutal loss after a weekend where a on Friday, they get a game they probably should have won against West Virginia and they lost. Then they come back, beat South Carolina Upstate, beat Clemson in a game where they scored a thousand runs. And then the West Virginia game, West Virginia makes it to the Super Regionals. You know, Drew, we. We don't end up usually following UK baseball with the specifics that other. We do other teams during the season. But I watched a lot of this weekend. I watched at least some of all four games and watched a ton of last night's game, which took I think nine hours. What did you make of the entire experience?

[Caller]

Like, everyone disappointed by the finish last night but what a long day of baseball. Yesterday with that double header, I felt like both games took forever. I watched just about every pitch of both. My whole Sunday was Kentucky baseball. And that last one, it just sure felt like they were about to give us a Monday game and still be in the fight. You have Berkshire hit the solo home run, home run in the eighth. Felt like you're just adding to that cushion, feeling in a good spot. You're up five in the top of the eighth. And then the wheels just absolutely fell off. Kind of a fitting ending with the way the bullpens kind of let them down all year. They've blown a lot of leads like that. It's kind of the way the season ended. It's kind of how the season went all year. So crushing loss when it felt like they had another game in them. They were about to handle West Virginia.

[Matt Jones]

Last night they ran out of pitchers. I mean, ultimately, I think that's. That's the issue and that's the. What happens when you, Ryan, lose that first. So they went into that game last night having played one more game than West Virginia. They got some good fortune in both the early game, in the late game that their starters were able to go a little bit, you know, especially in the early game, go longer. But then when things started falling apart, they really fell apart and sitting there with two outs and all you need is one more out and they just can't get one. And they. I didn't know in college baseball is. I don't know if this is true in the majors. Ryan, is it true? Like, can you can just bring people in when it's with like it was 3:1 at one point on the count and then they brought a different guy in. Can you do that in the majors?

[Drew]

Oh, yeah. You can make a pitching change at any time. Anything in the count for sure. But you're right, man, the series was lost in that first game Friday. You had a three to nothing lead. You had your best pitcher on the mound. You couldn't hang on and win that one. So you had to use a lot of arms against Upstate and against Clemson and then against West Virginia. So the debate is now, Matt, should they have put Cleaver back in last night just to stop the bleeding? I know they were saving him for today, but you got to win the game first. Would you, would you have put him in last night just to try to stop it?

[Matt Jones]

So I, you, you and Shannon would know this better than me. So Cleavers, their A's. Let's say they Put him in and he pitched an inning last night. Is there any way you could have pitched him today or starters arm? I mean again I know that's not what happens you in the majors but that people they're looking at long careers though for those guys. If you had put him in for to get that last out in the 8th or to pitch in the 9th last night, would you have been able to use him today or just.

[Shannon]

No, I think you could have. Managers won't do that because they have to go through the process of warming up the arm and going out there and throwing. You know, if you're throwing 10 or 15 pitches, why can't you come out and throw another four or five innings the next day? I would think that you could do that.

[Matt Jones]

Ryan. I know it never happens but could you. Is that a way or is it just like we. You just don't do that.

[Drew]

Yeah, Shannon said said it right. He could have gone today, Maybe only gone 2, 3, 4 innings. Wouldn't be able to go a lot. But I think you could have got a little bit out of him. That's why I think man, just to stop the bleeding. You got to win that game last night, put him out there, pitch the bottom of the night, close him out the bottom of the ninth. You're playing today.

[Matt Jones]

Well, they were set up to be to really have a shot but they didn't get it. And so then when the game was was over that led to Drew and we all should be honest about this. I'll be honest about it as well. What ends up happening in these college baseball playoffs is a lot of us and I'm in this group go from we don't watch most of the year and then all of a sudden we're watching every game and we have strong feelings about things. Right? That's now there are people out here listening who've listened to them all and their feelings I completely understand. But then you have people like us who will come in at the end, have strong feelings and last night online a lot of negativity about the game. I take the view they replaced from a college World Series team their entire starting lineup except for one guy. They lost their entire weekend pitching staff from last year and only brought back a handful of guys on the roster, period. Basically one starter out of their entire nine man lineup and all their starting pitchers. And the fact that they were in a place where you could argue we should have won both games and could be in the super regional I think is a compliment to Mingy Own in the Year they did. It felt like to me, some of our fans were very angry about it and kind of. And it just sort of said to me, in today's world, it becomes impossible to please people. If you expected this year Drew to be significantly better than this.

[Caller]

Yeah. I mean, they're. They're playing for a regional championship. You got to be happy with that. I'd say most of the frustration is just that you're up five in the eighth. Maybe if they lose from the beginning, it doesn't hurt as bad. But overall, I think you got to be pretty proud. Heck, you scored dang your 30 runs yesterday alone. It's just. You just ran out of pitchers. You all said that's the whole story when you're bringing outfielders in to try to close out a game. They used five pitchers in the eighth inning when it looked like West Virginia would they bring in their starter from.

[Drew]

Friday, you know, the night.

[Caller]

I mean, Kentucky was just trying to throw together what they could, and that's how it looks like.

[Matt Jones]

So you would make.

[Caller]

The way they lost is. Is why people are so frustrated.

[Matt Jones]

So, Ryan, you would make the argument if West Virginia felt like they needed to bring their ack. Could have done the same thing.

[Drew]

Yeah, I. But, you know, like I said last week, I think this is the best coaching job men John has done since he's been here. Even to take away what they went to the World Series last year. What he did this year is pretty amazing. So I trust him. They know a lot more baseball than I do. But when your ace is sitting over there and the bleeding is heavy bleeding, you got to stop it somehow. And I believe I would have brought him in.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. All right. So you. They get, I think, drew a lot of these guys back next year. Right? I mean, am I. Am I correct? Now, of course, you could lose some people in the portal, but they. They get a lot of these guys back next season. Do you expect that to happen and for them to be, you know, much, much better even next year?

[Caller]

Yeah, they have a lot of young pieces. You got to keep Tyler Bell, you know, he's. He was a draft prospect. He got drafted and chose to go to college. I don't know what his thought is for next season, but I'm sure he'll have opportunities to look at other places. You got to make sure nil is in order. But then in this series, that Hudson Brown, I don't know how close you are paying attention. He hadn't really played all year, and he came in and had a huge weekend Batting at one point, he was like 4 for 10 with a double home run, several RVI. So got to see a little piece of what he can bring too. But a lot of young talent, a lot of young pitchers that'll still be on the roster moving forward.

[Matt Jones]

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[Drew]

The last name against Clemson.

[Caller]

Yes, yes. Close them out.

[Matt Jones]

So a lot of, lot of positives coming out of it. Let me ask you, Shannon, you and Ryan, what do you think about the way Kentucky plays? They've played like this for a while, but I don't think it's ever been on more display than it was this weekend. I mean, it is, you know, Clemson had seven errors in the day game on. On Sunday. West Virginia had five. So that's 12 errors. I looked at the box scores of all the other games that. Yes. Have played yesterday. Nobody had more than two in a game and Kentucky made it to where they had 12. Now, I don't think that's just a coincidence because they're running everywhere. They just put the ball in play. Hope you will screw up. They steal. Do you, do you like this style, this kind of small ball style Kentucky plays?

[Shannon]

I love it. You know, it's a little bit of old school baseball that you really don't see anymore. You know, when's the last time you've seen a bunt in major league baseball? I haven't seen one, I don't think all season. But you know, they play aggressively, they put pressure on the defense and I think that's why you see so many errors from the other teams.

[Matt Jones]

I feel like this is a Ryan Lemon system. Right. Like, isn't this what you would do if you were. If you were in college baseball? I feel like you would have committed to Nick Mingione to play the way they do.

[Drew]

100%. I love it. That's the way I played. That's the way I think it should be played. And you're. They put the pressure on the other team and look, they, like you said, they committed 12 errors in two games. I think it's just a, like Shannon said, a lost art of baseball that most teams don't play anymore. It's all power game. Try to just hit the long ball all the time instead of putting the ball in play, running, taking the extra base and doing things like that, put pressure on the defense.

[Matt Jones]

I will say I probably watched collectively more college baseball Drew in these three days, just in terms of Watching all the various games. They had this thing on ESPN plus called squeeze play where they just went from aim to game to game. Kind of like red zone for college baseball. I enjoyed it. The crowds are exciting. You get to see teams you would never see. I mean Murray state 12 games and is playing today. I think it gets Ole Miss for a chance to go to the super regional. But they will. Murray State won their first two games. I really enjoyed watching them and their, you know, cheering on the Racers. I kind of think the way college baseball does their playoffs, making it double elimination. I actually think it's awesome in the one and two seeds are both out which doesn't happen in the other major sports a lot. So I love it.

[Caller]

Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I'm watching more than I've ever watched too. You have six, six more regionals tonight. Winner take all games last night. I don't know if you saw but Tennessee lost on a walk off walk. Wake Forest had bases loaded in Tennessee through four straight balls to lose and extend that Knoxville. So there were some other close and wild finishes around the, around the tournament last night too.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah and it's weird to me Shannon that these baseball like that you can have a Murray State beat Ole Miss and Georgia Tech back to back. Murray State had not won a tournament game since 1979 and then they win two back to back and are playing tonight for a super regional. That right. I mean Wright State knocks out Vanderbilt from the, from the tournament. I, I don't. Baseball is such a random sport like that that you can get those results that I actually think it makes it wildly entertaining.

[Shannon]

It just comes down to pitching matchups I think more so than anything in baseball. You know it depends on who you're starting and that a lot of times, you know it depends on how the starter, you know if he can get, you know, go four or five innings in the game or do they have to turn over to the bullpen and make a bullpen game out of it. So just so much comes down to the starting pitchers in these games. It doesn't really matter. Like a right state could come in and beat Vanderbilt like, like yesterday.

[Matt Jones]

They are too long though.

[Drew]

Yeah, five hours, like 11 o' clock.

[Matt Jones]

You have to pack a lunch and a dinner to watch these games. They are so long. And I say this with all due respect sometimes it's clear some of these announcers Drew they've got people who this like they only do it once a year, right. They bring them out for this weekend and they have to call every game and you could tell sometimes they are struggling with things to say at the end of these games. That is, it's got to be a tough haul doing nine hours a day of college baseball.

[Caller]

They're doing their best and whatever it is that's extending these games in the postseason, it's not helping them at all. Especially yesterday I felt like UK played baseball for 16 hours. Maybe they did, but it was just all day long with that double.

[Matt Jones]

It was, it was, it was a long day. Unfortunately, Kentucky doesn't get the victory. 859-280-2287 give us a shout. We'll take your calls on anything. Text machine 772-774-5254 a lot of other stuff happening including got to interview John Wall yesterday who said something that's got me very excited. We'll take a break. Be right back.

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It is Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287 Text Machine 772-774-52541 Person writes Matt, it's not the season any resulted upsetting. It's that the team found ways to lose the same type of games all year. Again, I look, I'm not going to claim to have followed the team well enough to know the, the, you know, the, the talent level, etc. But Ryan, I saw a ranking on the athletic going into the NCAA tournament. They had the top 150 draft prospects playing in the NCAA tournament and Kentucky didn't have one of them. Okay. I mean there wasn't one person on the list that tells me that we're not exactly, you know, beaming with talent. Why that is is probably a combination of the fact that they went all in last year. I'm not sure that our nil for baseball is what it is what it is at a lot of these other schools, but that's partially. I don't know why you can get so upset. Part of the reason they lost one run games is they just didn't have quite enough talent to beat a lot of these good teams. At least that's how I would see it. Do you agree or disagree?

[Drew]

No, I agree. I think you can make a good argument that they actually overachieved this year with the all the young talent, the new faces they had replacing all that talent they had from last year's team to lose 12 one run games to be leading in like 22 of their 25 losses. Whatever. It was something like that. I think maybe you could say they kind of overachieved this year with what they had to work with.

[Matt Jones]

If you look at, if you add up all of their SEC games and then these four games that were in the NCAA tournament, Drew, they led at one point in their SEC and postseason games in 31 of the 35 games.

[Caller]

That's really great.

[Matt Jones]

That's an amazing stat. They were 15 and 19, but yet they led in 31. Excuse me, 31 of their 35 games.

[Drew]

These are the best teams in the country. The sec.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, that's, that's a crazy stat to me, Drew, if you think about it.

[Caller]

Oh, definitely. Obviously not finishing games. And as you said, I don't know, they're nil either, but you got to load up on. On some, some pitching. Bullpen just let him down. And most of those opportunities where you'd go up early, get a big lead, your starter would play well, and when he goes to the bench, they just couldn't finish getting it done. So that'll have to be where they add moving forward. But they were scoring the runs they needed to all year. Just couldn't finish.

[Matt Jones]

Our Kentucky branded Why Most controversial text of the day One person writes, matt, we have the whiniest fans online who comment, and it's completely obvious they have no idea what they're talking about. I saw multiple people say Mingyon can't get it done. They do the same things with Stoops. They did the same thing with Pope. Why do you think this is? Well, I mean, some people are just trolls and like they're going to say that about anything. But I do think, Ryan, the online world has become much more unrealistic as to what teams can do. I mean, let's just use UK baseball for an example. We've really been bad our entire history, honestly. I mean, we've been. There's no doubt. Mingy owns the most success, successful baseball coach Kentucky's ever had. He's been to the super regionals three times. He's been to the College World Series once. We had never been to the College World Series. Ryan, how many times have we been to the super regional before Mingyone?

[Drew]

I think just one. Yeah, one. Maybe two. One.

[Matt Jones]

One or two times in his sec. Yeah, we won the sec, which is, you know, almost as hard as winning the whole thing. Now. I, I don't know what people. Let's be real about what Kentucky Baseball is even now. I mean, of the 16 schools in the SEC, would you say our support in terms of attendance, etc. Ryan, in the SEC, are we. Is Missouri the only team we're ahead of? Probably in that regard.

[Drew]

Probably so. I mean, baseball is a lot more important to a lot of the other schools. That's.

[Matt Jones]

I think it's probably more important to 14 of the schools.

[Drew]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, even Vanderbilt has substantially more support.

[Drew]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

In. In baseball. So I mean, you're looking at a coach who's probably now. I mean, look, when we've been good like last year, the fans get on board. But if you're just talking about like regularly following and it being a thing, we're probably 15th. We're 15th or 16th maybe when it comes to history because Missouri used to be good at baseball a long time ago. So Drew, I, you know, what do you expect him to do in some ways, like he's created. I. I can't remember what I went to the one UK baseball series when we host. Who was the coach then? Cohen. Many, many. Or was Mingyon even the coach when we played NC State here?

[Drew]

Cohen or Henderson? Gary Henderson, one of those two guys.

[Matt Jones]

I think it was Cohen. I mean, that was a long, long time ago. And besides that, Drew, I'm not sure I'd ever even been to a UK baseball game. So the fact that Mingyone has made this to where it's even a topic, I think is amazing.

[Caller]

I think that might even been Mingy owns first year. The one you went to over at the right.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think.

[Caller]

I think you got.

[Matt Jones]

Sure. If I had ever been to a game before Mingyo.

[Caller]

Yeah, he got him started right away over there. I think that's the one you went to when Cal was. Everybody's clean up the bleachers there.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that was. So that was me. GM was the coach. You're right.

[Caller]

His first season.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Caller]

No, they're definitely at places they've never been for. They won the SEC for the second time. He's got the record for most wins a year. Went to Omaha. I guess you're allowed a down season and playing for a regional championship is still pretty respectful. You finished better than Clemson, the host. Heck, we were on the bubble going into the selection show. So you at least played a little bit above your seed line. It's just the. I think most of the anger is still being up five in the eighth and how it ended down season.

[Matt Jones]

A down season. It would have been like the best season we ever Had.

[Drew]

Yeah. They made third year in a row. The first time ever. Making the NCAA tournament three years.

[Matt Jones]

First time ever.

[Caller]

I guess down from the past year, which was a huge year. I know.

[Matt Jones]

Hold that.

[Caller]

That forever.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I, so I have to say I, I almost have no patience for the like state of the program people after this. I understand being frustrated about the result of the game and how it ended up happening. Who's up first? Shannon.

[Shannon]

Bubba.

[Matt Jones]

Bubba. How are you, Bubba?

[Bubba]

Fine, fine. Doing great. And I'm, I'm like you, Matt. These people that complain it's the best it had it not been for last year, this would have been the best season in Kentucky baseball history. But you know, they're going to complain regardless.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Bubba]

The coaching staff is there every day with them and they're going to put what they think is the. Put them in the best position to win. So. But my reason for calling today is I got a trivia question from Bait for Baseball. Who threw the first no hitter for the University of Kentucky?

[Matt Jones]

You could say, you could say Shannon Sparky McGee or something like that. Like I have. There is. I would have absolutely no idea. So tell me. So tell me the answer.

[Drew]

I got a guess.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, wait a minute. Ryan has a guess. Go for it.

[Drew]

Jim Host.

[Bubba]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Such answer for everything. Wait a minute. Hang on. Just say. He just said Jim hoes so confident because he. Because that's exactly right. He's scared of Jim Host. He guesses. Jim Host for everything. Right. Who's the first rope best rower in Kentucky history? Jim Host. Yes. KSBAR. Trippy. What eight world leaders once met together to end World War II. Yeah, I think you had Jim Host. Rob Bromley. Okay, so what is the answer?

[Bubba]

Okay, I've been friends with this guy for probably 30 years and I knew.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you got 10 seconds to say his name.

[Bubba]

All right. Tommy Bannon.

[Matt Jones]

Tommy good guy.

[Bubba]

1981 against Georgia State.

[Matt Jones]

There you go. Tommy Bannon getting a shout out on ksr. We'll take a break. Be right back.

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[Matt Jones]

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[Shannon]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Text machine 772-45254. We had never made Ryan the super regionals until Mingo, just for the record. So never made it.

[Drew]

Like you guys said, first time ever to the College World Series. First time ever make the NCAA Tournament three years in a row. And he did it this year when Having only one starter returning.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, we could have played LSU if we had been able to win this. Although I think even they did.

[Caller]

They lost a Little Rock they played tonight.

[Matt Jones]

Little rock was like 20, like had a losing record going in the term. So Little Rock still has a chance today, right?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Caller]

That's one of the six games tonight.

[Matt Jones]

LSU has not gone a little past Little Rock. So we'll see if they get to the to the super regionals. I had Ryan John Wall on my ESPN show yesterday. So, you know, we're doing this thing all summer. Guess the Wildcat where they just bring on former Wildcats surprise me every week as to who they're going to get. And I thought Ryan Chowal was a pretty good get by my producers.

[Drew]

That's a really good get. Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Heck of a get. So we had John Walland you can listen to it if you go to the Matt Myron podcast. You can listen. It's on our three. He comes on. It was a great interview, Wal. Honestly, I talked mostly about UK because why not if you could have a national radio show, why wouldn't you just Shannon talk about UK basketball on the national radio show? But in the conversation I thought he gave one piece of news. He said that Mark Pope reached out to him and asked his has asked him to come to Lexington and play pickup and work out with the team. And he's going to try to do that for a few days this summer. And then I later found out in some conversations later in the day that Pope has done that with many of the NBA guys that they are basically hoping to recreate what Cal had here before COVID This kind of ended after Covid, but before COVID during the summers you would get a lot of these guys back in the summer and they would play pickup. That happened a lot in 14, 15, 16, 17. Around those times and Pope apparently retrying to do it and Wallace said he's going to come and play against, you know, Jalen Lowe and all those guys this summer. That made me very happy Ryan to hear. And it's got to be great for the I mean think about for these players if John Wall their childhood, the kid they watch play as or player they watch play as a kid comes up and plays with them.

[Drew]

What a great recruiting tool it is too when you come in for a visit and there's John Wall out, you know, scrimmage with the guys and maybe you know, Darren Fox out there shooting it up with some of the guy Devin Booker, I mean just all the NBA guys that have Kentucky Connections. If Pope is able to get them to come back, he absolutely should use that to his advantage, especially in the recruiting world.

[Matt Jones]

And Wall also said, Drew, what. What we heard Andrew Harrison say, which is that he watched a ton of the games last year again, which, you know, my biggest worry with Pope was will he be able to keep the connection to those cow guys? Were they cow guys or like, would they kind of stay watching Kentucky? And it is clear the answer to that question has been they will still be Kentucky guys no matter what.

[Caller]

Definitely. And I was like you. That was my biggest concern. Cal marketed the program to have that NBA connection. And Pope brings completely entirely different approach than that. But I love that he's maintained those relationships. He's popped over to playoff games. We saw the picture with him and Carl recently. A picture with him and Rob Dillingham. It's good to know that there wasn't any kind of friction in the changing the eras there because it could have gone the other way. Those guys could have just ridden with Cal and not like the move. But most of them have been very supportive.

[Matt Jones]

Very supportive. So very cool that Wall will be back. And I kind of want to be at those pickup games. Would you, Shannon, watch the. I'd like to. Jalen Lowe versus John Wall. I know Wall's not played in a while, but I still think it would be fun to watch.

[Caller]

It's about Colin Chandler dunking on Wall. When's that video going to leak out?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, take a guess how much money John Wall made. We found out yesterday in salary, in his NBA career. Okay, so I just want. Just think about in your mind what you think John Wall made. Remember, John was very good. I don't think he ever made an all star team. I think he was.

[Drew]

I think you're right.

[Matt Jones]

He. I think he was close. I don't think he made an all star team. Maybe he made one. I'm not sure, but just take a guess. Brian, how much do you think John Wall made in his NBA career?

[Drew]

200 million.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. What do you think, Drew?

[Caller]

I heard, so I know the answer.

[Shannon]

I'm gonna say 80 million.

[Matt Jones]

Well, add it up. $280 million.

[Drew]

280 million.

[Matt Jones]

He made $280 million.

[Drew]

Wow. Not a bad life.

[Matt Jones]

And you know what's crazy is some of these dudes playing right now will double or even triple.

[Drew]

You're right. You're right.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, it's insane.

[Drew]

I do need to ask you one more question about your Sunday show yesterday. Yes, I heard the Doofenshmirtz segment.

[Caller]

Yep. Me too.

[Matt Jones]

You say you heard it.

[Drew]

I heard it. You were extra doofenshmirtzy, too. I think during that segment, it stood.

[Caller]

Out a little more than the John Wall. Honestly.

[Drew]

It did.

[Matt Jones]

What made it stand out? So we had the guy who does the voice of Doofenshmirtz. He and his partner were on. Why did it stand out for you?

[Drew]

Because I thought you were extra doofenshmirtzy there for a while.

[Matt Jones]

Tell me when I was. Why you do it, Larry? The plot of us, you know, like that.

[Drew]

Yes, yes.

[Matt Jones]

He only gave me a B plus, though, on my impression, and I felt like Drew was worth more than a B plus, I have to say.

[Caller]

Oh, I completely agree. I thought you got robbed there. I really couldn't tell if they were hitting a button from the cartoon or if that was you doing it.

[Matt Jones]

Well, they did. I will say, if you listen to that interview, Ryan, they did play me saying it versus him saying it back to back. And I felt like it was almost exactly the same, to be honest with you.

[Drew]

I thought it was dead on. I thought the recording of it was definitely better. Absolutely. Well, it was funny. It was a funny segment.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they were. And for my friends, kids, that's the coolest I've ever been in their eyes was having the Phineas and Ferb guys. Like, that's the only time they've ever cared what I did. Well, you got some news.

[Drew]

I didn't know they were going to re. Bring it back.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, I don't think that broke news. I think that's why they were on. The show was promoting the fact that it was coming back. It wasn't like they just Shit. And they didn't decide during that interview to say the show was going to be back Thursday. It was like this. The first time anybody's gonna find out this Thursday it's coming.

[Shannon]

Broke news to Ryan, though.

[Drew]

Yes, he did. I didn't know they were coming back.

[Matt Jones]

If it's Ryan doesn't know, then I guess it's breaking news to him. That's exactly right. Who's next?

[Shannon]

Chris.

[Matt Jones]

Chris. Go ahead, Chris.

[Bubba]

First time, long time.

[Matt Jones]

Who? Good. How do. How are you? Go ahead.

[Bubba]

Good. Hey, you were talking earlier about playing baseball all day long. Well, this story will be particular interest to drew. Back about 1970, the Lafayette Generals played the Madisonville Maroons in the state baseball tournament.

[Caller]

Oh, okay.

[Matt Jones]

After.

[Bubba]

After seven innings, the scores tied five to five. They go extras. I don't remember what extra inning it was, but Lafayette goes up 10 to 5, Madisonville comes back scores 5. It's 10 to 10. Oh, finally in the bottom of the 22nd inning.

[Matt Jones]

Whoa, 22nd inning.

[Bubba]

Of course, 22nd inning. Madisonville scores the winning run to win 11 to 10.

[Drew]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

So this was what year, sir? 1971.

[Bubba]

1970. 71. Right about in there.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Did you play in the game? Like, what made you remember this?

[Bubba]

Well, my brother was on Lafayette's team at the time and I remember skipping junior, skipped school during junior high to go to the game over at Cliff Hagen Stadium.

[Matt Jones]

So. 1970, 71, 22 innings. Do we think this Corey Price know the answer? Is that the longest high school game in Kentucky history? I would think it's at least in contention. I think if it was longer than that, Shannon, they'd have just told people to go home. If it wasn't in the state tournament. Yeah, I feel like that would make. Well, I appreciate the call that. 1970.

[Bubba]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Matt Jones]

Matt, wait, wait a minute. All right. I can't. It's not a novel. I gotta just go quick.

[Bubba]

No. All right. Lafayette's pitcher, VIC Travis threw 19⅔ innings that day.

[Shannon]

Arms were built different back then.

[Drew]

They were.

[Matt Jones]

And he never was able to walk again after that. All right, well, thank you very much. He cannot even pick up his groceries now until unfortunately. Wow. 19 and 2. I like how it's 2/3 though. But they decided after they decided. Drew, you know what? We can't finish the 20th. We need to go ahead and bring a reliever in for this one.

[Caller]

Yeah, his arm fell off mid game. Yeah. Maxwell, as long as it takes. We'll get it done. Congratulations.

[Matt Jones]

Walt did make all star teams. Wall made. Well, Mario, he made five.

[Caller]

Yeah, fairly.

[Matt Jones]

That's a lot different than zero. Don't tell. Don't tell. John, I got that wrong. Five's a lot. Okay. Alright. That's the only time Mario's ever entered a fact check on me, so I knew he was probably not happy. Summer's almost ready, so enjoy your favorite outdoor activities without pain or stiffness. Go to court. Physical therapy, that's kort.com to help you get you moving again. No medications, no injections, no surgery. Just helping you feel better. Let's say you pitch 19 and 2/3. Court.com will get you back to where you're ready to go for the night game. The next night, it's kort.comcourtdill.com the power of physical therapy for both Lafayette and Madisonville. We'll take a break and be right back. It's Kentucky Sports, right T Mobile stats.

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. You know chin facts are optional here. You know that. Like we don't. I mean we may say Wall didn't make it all starting but he made five. We also may have a caller who called and said what did they say the person's name was that threw the first no hitter in UK history? What was his name?

[Caller]

Tom Bannon.

[Matt Jones]

Well it was not Tom Bannon it was Jerry Sharp who threw a no hitter in 1959. Oh, 1959. He threw a no hitter against Tennessee. I'm going to read you the first paragraph of the story. Okay?

[Drew]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Sharp posted his third win of the season against no defeats. The Brooklyn Mississippi lad got stronger as the game progressed, fanning the last six vol batter batters he faced. I love that he called him a lad. Drew, that's the Herald Leader used to call the UK baseball players lads. Those. That was a gentlemanly time.

[Caller]

Yeah. Back before bloggers ruined journalism. Some of the old game reports. I've gone back and read old Kentucky basketball stories. They write the game recap. So different than what we have now.

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Caller]

So also congratulations to Mike Howell who had the second no hitter at uk, pushing Tom Bannon further down the list.

[Matt Jones]

Tom Bannon was third. You know, the next thing we're going to find out is Tom Banning didn't even throw a note or else there wasn't even a person named Tom Band. It was, well, so Jerry Sharp first who was second, and then Jerry Tom Bannon allegedly third. Although we do not have proof yet of of him being third. 859280, 2287 one person writes. Matt, I agree with you about having Wall and those guys back, but do you think the current players even know who John Wall is? Of course they do. Although I would note if you were Jasper Johnson when John Wall played at Kentucky, you were three years old. Three.

[Drew]

Well, that's why a lot of the guys now, they talk about their favorite players that they grew up watching were Devin Booker, you know, three years old.

[Caller]

Yeah, everyone knows who he is now, but we're getting into dangerous territory where there might be a recruit in a.

[Drew]

Few years not know who he was.

[Caller]

It's getting close.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean they would remember him from his NBA days. Right? That's what they UK day. But they wouldn't remember him from his UK days. You're exactly right. But they would remember him from his. From his NBA days. Drew, how did you hear or did you go like, how did Rail Bird go there? I mean I, I heard that there was a massive traffic issue last night with people getting out, but just in general, did you hear it went well?

[Caller]

I did not go, but I feel like I was there just based on social media. I even like, you know, searched for it and just saw a bunch of random videos and pictures. Looked like they had a great crowd. Jelly Roll last night seemed to have a lot of fire on stage. Lots of fire.

[Matt Jones]

What do you mean?

[Caller]

Fire, just like actual flames on. On stage. Pretty cool. So it looks like he had a big production, but overall, I don't know if it was the turnout of years past. I see final numbers on that. But you know, they did the aerial photo and it looked like another. Another good crowd out there.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it looked like they had a lot of people. I think I, you know, just by looking at the parking we had at the bar Sunday, we basically filled up in pre sales for Sunday. Saturday got some. It was not totally full, which makes me think there was a bigger crowd. Ryan. On Sunday than Saturday. You know, they still have an issue over there with parking though. I mean, like, they just don't have places for people to park. You know, we, we. We have a lot. But again, if you don't know before, a lot of out of town people don't even know to do that. But you know, there were people. I was hearing stories of people parking, like at the mall, at Fayette Mall and walking all the way to real. I mean, that's like a crazy walk. But if you just think about it, if you don't, there just aren't a lot of places, honestly, over there to. To park.

[Drew]

Yeah, there were people I know up and down Versailles Road, just parking like in the McDonald's and walking over. So I'm sure it was that way everywhere. I tried to stay away as far as I could, but, you know, my son worked it and he's like, he told me, he said it was a massive crowd there both days.

[Matt Jones]

Well, good.

[Caller]

Mall has paid parking now, by the way.

[Drew]

What do you mean Fayette Mall has paid?

[Caller]

Yeah, there's like QR codes to pay to park just in the. It's only the front few spots. It's VIP parking.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, that's becoming a thing.

[Caller]

I noticed. Like, who's gonna pay to park at Fayette Mall? But it's out there.

[Matt Jones]

It's like, would you VIP park, Shannon? Let's say it's Christmas season.

[Shannon]

No.

[Matt Jones]

And it's either you like or, you know, back in the day, you used to be at Fayette Mall during Christmas. You might not even find a place to park. You wouldn't VIP park for $5?

[Shannon]

No, I'd rather walk a half a mile. And it's not because I can't afford it, it's just the principle of it. Like, if you got free parking, and I think a mall should have free parking, then why wouldn't you just use that? You've probably pay the $5. I'm sure. Right.

[Matt Jones]

No, no, I'm with you. There's a. There's a principle to it.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

There's a print. There are certain things that I won't pay. Like. Like, I mean, like parking tickets. You know, that to me, just there's.

[Shannon]

A principle that's a little different principle.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's a different principle. You know, it's weird because you're right. Like, I would pay a lot to park.

[Drew]

I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

That's a psychological thing. So if there's a lot for a game and it says it costs $25 to park for the game, I don't love it, but I'll do it. But if it is a free parking lot and for whatever reasons it's not free, then in my mind, I'm mad about that. And they. Shannon will get nothing. You know, let's just say whatever.

[Shannon]

Let's just say hypothetically, you were in Vail, Colorado, and there was one parking garage that charges a hundred dollars a night, and there was an one right next to it that was free. I've seen you pay $100 to go to the one that you.

[Matt Jones]

Actually, that was because Ryan told me the only one there. No, Drew told me the only one that existed was the one that was a hundred dollars. I didn't know there was a free one next door. That's Drew Franklin's fault. That is not my fault.

[Caller]

Of nowhere.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, yeah. They just happen to have a free one. And people like, who are the idiots that pay in the hundred dollar one? Me, thanks to Drew, can't have money. All right.

[Shannon]

Capital. Craig Cray.

[Matt Jones]

What's up?

[Caller]

Hey.

[Matt Jones]

What's going on?

[Bubba]

First of all, I was, you know, fortunate to meet Mark's. Mark Hope last week at Arlington. And I just wanted to call and say, like, how crazy it was to just like, so randomly. I mean, if you haven't. For people who haven't been there, it's an enormous place, like hundred to hundreds of acres, and he's just there with it.

[Matt Jones]

So you were just walking across Arlington National Cemetery, and you're just like, look, there's Mark Pope. Yeah.

[Bubba]

No, I mean, it was. It was like the wildest thing ever. Nobody around them. I'm by myself. I mean, you know, I'd been there for hours. Like, you know, if I was anywhere else, which I had been all over the place, I wouldn't have seen him. Like, it was just. It was just nuts. And, like, they're the nicest people. We're so lucky to have them.

[Matt Jones]

They are the nice. I mean, they. There's no doubt Mark Pope is insanely nice. I completely agree with you. And, and I've not seen him be anything but kind in public to anyone, which is very hard for a person that gets stopped as much as he does. I can't imagine how often that has to be.

[Bubba]

Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm sure, you know, he was sort of pretending, but he genuinely seemed interested in talking to me, which was, you know, it just, it's just wild. Anyway, the point I wanted to make, though was you were talking about Nick Mingion and Kentucky baseball a little bit earlier in their unconventional style, I think. I think Mark Stoops could take some lessons from Nick and in terms of like, not having a power program and doing things a little bit different.

[Matt Jones]

Well, they used to do that. You know, they used to do that. And Gary, I hate to cut you off because we're about to go to break, but I appreciate it. They used to do that and then they kind of got away from that. But to be fair, our fans kind of asked them, Ryan, to go away from that. They're like, we want to throw the ball more, et cetera. So, you know, you're kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't. Real quick, rank the UK basketball coaches in terms of niceness while they were at uk. Ryan.

[Drew]

Tubby one, Pope two.

[Matt Jones]

Gosh, I go in the opposite. I'm gonna go. Pope one, Tubby two Joby. Joby three. I don't know about Rupp. I don't know anything about his personality. I would say Cal 4, Patino 5. I'd say Sutton 5, Rick 6. Billy 7. Billy, you like that list?

[Drew]

Billy is definitely last.

[Matt Jones]

Billy's definitely last. Although he could be really nice sometimes, but I think just overall probably last. We'll take a break, come back. Our number two ksr.

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