2025-06-11- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

Podcast Summary: KSR - Hour 1 (June 11, 2025)

Introduction and Show Overview

In the latest episode of Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) hosted by Matt Jones alongside the KSR crew from iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM), listeners are greeted with an engaging blend of local sports commentary, listener interactions, and light-hearted banter. The episode, recorded on June 11, 2025, delves deep into pressing topics within Kentucky sports, particularly focusing on the recent developments surrounding Vince Merrill and the Kentucky football program.

Notable Quote:

"Welcome everyone, Kentucky Sports Radio Wednesday, June 11th. I'm Matt Jones here at the studio in Lexington."
— Matt Jones [00:36]

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The Vince Merrill Situation

A significant portion of the discussion centers around Vince Merrill, the head of UK Athletics. As of the morning of the podcast's recording, Vince has yet to tender his resignation from the University of Kentucky (UK), with no official announcements from either UK or the University of Louisville (U of L).

The hosts speculate on the reasons behind the unexpected leak of Vince's potential departure, pondering whether internal communications failed or if external leaks influenced the situation. The lack of official statements has led to confusion and frustration among fans and stakeholders.

Notable Quotes:

"What do you guys make of the fact that as of this morning, he hasn't tendered his resignation to UK and there still hasn't been an announcement at U of L? Is it something or is it nothing?"
— Matt Jones [01:39]

"You can't come back. He couldn't."
— Ryan Lemon [08:22]

The conversation highlights the strained relationship between UK and U of L fans, especially concerning Vince's potential move. There is a consensus that Vince's lack of direct communication with UK Athletics has left many in the dark, exacerbating tensions between the two universities.

Notable Quote:

"You can't roll out of town and have the employer that employed you for 13 years find out from a tweet."
— Matt Jones [05:04]

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Murray State Baseball's College World Series Run

Shifting gears, the hosts celebrate Murray State's remarkable journey to the College World Series. Despite playing in a modest stadium with a capacity of 800, comparable to high school facilities, Murray State's persistence and underdog spirit have captured the attention of the local sports community.

The anecdote about the pitcher who not only contributed on the field but also maintained the grounds adds a charming, grassroots element to the story. The team's unique celebration practices, including the infamous "dog pile" with oatmeal-covered players, have become a talking point among listeners.

Notable Quotes:

"They had a dog pile. Then the baseball were like, sorry, you got to do it again."
— Matt Jones [12:15]

"What an awesome story."
— Shannon The Dude [12:16]

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Entertainment Segment: TV Shows and Comedy

The podcast also ventures into the realm of entertainment, discussing various TV shows and comedy series. The hosts express their opinions on shows like "Tires" featuring Shane Gillis, comparing its seasonal progression to other series such as "Parks and Recreation", "30 Rock", and "Succession". They lament the initial shortcomings of certain shows and celebrate those that found their footing in subsequent seasons.

Additionally, there's a humorous promotion for Comedy Off Broadway in Lexington, highlighting upcoming performances by Country Wayne, Eric Griffin, and Greg Morton.

Notable Quotes:

"Season one of Tires. Awful. I was so disappointed. I was like, I like you so much. This show is not good. Season two... Much better."
— Matt Jones [27:54]

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— Matt Jones [15:46]
(Note: This pertains to a commercial segment and may be considered non-content.)

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Listener Calls and Questions

Interactive segments with listeners form a core part of the podcast. Callers pose diverse questions ranging from sports statistics to personal preferences about athletes they'd like to dine with.

One notable listener, Danny, expresses strong support for UK, emphasizing a deep-rooted loyalty by stating, "If you go down, I'm going down too. We gotta. We... This is such a chump move." This sentiment echoes the broader community's passion and concern over the Vince Merrill debacle.

Another caller discusses the "Weetabix" challenge during the tournament, highlighting the community's engagement with local sports events.

Notable Quotes:

"What would you set the over. Under on percentage of Weetabix eaten versus purchased during the tournament."
— Caller [26:32]

"Dead or alive. Ali."
— Matt Jones [40:21]

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Miscellaneous Discussions: Cicadas in Lexington

Towards the latter part of the podcast, the conversation takes a light-hearted turn as the hosts discuss the sudden surge of cicadas in certain parts of Lexington. Listeners have reported concerns over these insects, leading to debates about their distribution across the city.

The hosts humorously debate the behavior of cicadas, their prevalence in specific neighborhoods, and the general public's reaction to their presence.

Notable Quotes:

"I keep seeing on. On the TikTok people going crazy going, I'm so tired of the cicadas in Lexington."
— Matt Jones [37:54]

"They make that screechy noise all the time. They're awful."
— Matt Jones [39:54]

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Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with reflections on expectations for Kentucky football compared to its storied basketball legacy. The hosts underscore the historical successes of UK basketball, contrasting them with the fluctuating fortunes of the football program. They emphasize the importance of realistic expectations to maintain fan satisfaction and reduce perennial frustration over performance inconsistencies.

Notable Quotes:

"So, no, there's nothing we could do that would be that bad. Bruce. Go ahead, Bruce."
— Matt Jones [31:26]

"We have expectations that will not make me always unhappy. So my expectation is win six. We didn't do that last year. If you don't do it this year, then I start to get very frustrated."
— Matt Jones [42:10]

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Conclusion

This episode of Kentucky Sports Radio offers a comprehensive look into the current state of Kentucky's sports landscape, intertwined with engaging discussions on local entertainment and community issues. Matt Jones and the KSR crew effectively balance serious sports commentary with light-hearted segments, ensuring a well-rounded and entertaining experience for their listeners.

Transcript

[Ryan Lemon]

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[Ryan Lemon]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Ryan Lemon]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Ryan Lemon]

This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome everyone, Kentucky Sports Radio Wednesday, June 11th. I'm Matt Jones here at the studio in Lexington. You give a shout out the Clark's Puppet shop phone line 859-280-2287. It's an ask anything Wednesday, although we're gonna modify it to where if you also want to give comments, you can. But in general, it's an ask anything Wednesday. Take your call. Any questions? Now would be a good time to ask questions. If you haven't, you know, you can obviously ask us goofy stuff, but if you want like Vince Stoops era questions too good.

[Shannon The Dude]

Good day for it.

[Matt Jones]

It is Avian auto glass text machine is 772-774-5254 in this edition sponsored by the T.J. smith Law Office called T.J. i'll make them Pay. Yesterday I thought was one of our really fun shows. You didn't know what was going to happen over the course of it, which I enjoyed. And I thought callers, you know, news breaking, people flipping people off at the Dunkin Donuts. I enjoyed the show, Ryan. Not gonna lie.

[Shannon The Dude]

There were several times after the segment we kind of looked at each other like that was a good segment at the end of the show. Like that's a best of show. We need to run again.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon The Dude]

I do want to give a tip to Cap to the callers. You had him on a 30 second shot clock. I don't know if Shannon buzzed it like maybe just one time all day.

[Matt Jones]

He buzzed it, he buzzed it, he buzzed it. So you were just too locked in. He.

[Ryan Lemon]

He buzzed, didn't buzz. Was fake Barney because how can you buzz fake Barney?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, he's singing a song. He's like, he's singing a song. What are you gonna do? Yeah. All right. So for me, there's like three things I really want to focus on today. But then besides the, the ask anything and then I'm sure I have some stories that I still haven't gotten to tell. I accidentally walked on. I walked out on a restaurant bill.

[Ryan Lemon]

Oh, no.

[Shannon The Dude]

They chase you down in the parking lot.

[Matt Jones]

I'll tell the story. And I saw the breakup of a marriage, so I feel like both of those things I think we need to get to. But I think we got to start for a second on the Vince thing.

[Shannon The Dude]

Sure.

[Matt Jones]

What do you guys make of the fact that as of this morning, he hasn't tendered his resignation to UK and there still hasn't been an announcement at U of L? Is it something or is it nothing?

[Shannon The Dude]

I think it's.

[Matt Jones]

No one at UK in athletics has heard anything from.

[Shannon The Dude]

Right. There's not been an official statement released by anybody.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think any of them have heard anything from him.

[Ryan Lemon]

Did this leak out before they wanted it to? Maybe. And the eyes aren't dotted and the T's aren't crossed, and maybe that's what's going on.

[Matt Jones]

I think that's fair.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think that certainly happened. It leaked out on the Louisville side, which, you know, is interesting because Vince is a talker. I didn't know. Right. His. The people he talks to in Kentucky didn't know.

[Shannon The Dude]

Apparently. UK didn't know.

[Matt Jones]

UK didn't know. Mark Stoops was not even in town. Okay. I think Mark Stoops and Vince have talked, but I don't think anyone from UK Athletics has talked to him. U of L hasn't announced. It's been. It's been almost 48 hours.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Like, Right. He had an interview scheduled with your guy Michael Bennett. Who? Salute to Michael Bennett. I didn't know he had a show, and I was. No, I mean, that's gonna sound like a foot down. I didn't know he had a show. And then everybody was like a Matt Jones. What do you think in your eye, that Michael Bennett got the Vince Marrow interview.

[Ryan Lemon]

He's in this blasting 100 watts.

[Matt Jones]

I said I didn't know he had a show. So the biggest piece of news is congrats to Michael Bennett for having a show. Yeah, but he said he had Vince, and then he said Vince canceled, so. It's been 48 hours. I've not talked to Vince except for him to. For 30 seconds. Tell me that guy flipped him off. You think there is. You think that's something?

[Shannon The Dude]

I think it's a. There's a little something there that. The fact that there's been no communication between UK and Vince. I mean, how can you accept a job if you can't resign your other jobs? So, as of right now, really, all intensive purposes, Vince is still employed by the University of Kentucky, legally yes. Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean, ksr. A young reporter named Matthew Harper Jones reported yesterday that UK had no. UK learned from the Pete Thamel tweet.

[Shannon The Dude]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

Mark Stoops learned from the Pete Thamel tweet. The largest donors at uk, and you can guess who they are. Learned from the Pete Thamel tweet.

[Shannon The Dude]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

That's pretty amazing. I learned from the text machine the. The week before from that one person who still hasn't written me since then. It was a flyby, just said it and was gone. But that's a bad look for Vince. And don't you think she. I mean, like, I don't. I don't care. You can't, like, roll out of town and have the employer that employed you for 13 years find out from a tweet. Now, some people would see that and say, how does the school not know? But I, you know, how are they supposed to know?

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah. If you're negotiating with another school, I. I can almost see maybe not telling the school, but after it broke yesterday, I think you got to have those conversations at some point. Yesterday afternoon after our show should have been conversations.

[Matt Jones]

It broke Monday.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Shane, that's a bad look.

[Ryan Lemon]

It is, it is.

[Matt Jones]

You gotta talk to your employer.

[Ryan Lemon]

Exactly. Like, if I were to leave this show, you would be the first to know.

[Matt Jones]

If I found out you. You were leaving to go to just.

[Ryan Lemon]

The Cutler, God, what a nightmare that would be.

[Matt Jones]

But you would have no filter.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah, you. You filter me so much here. I can't say what I.

[Matt Jones]

You would have. You would have no filter.

[Ryan Lemon]

That's right.

[Matt Jones]

If you were to do that. And I found out from Wildcat Tongue.

[Ryan Lemon]

You would feel hurt though, right? I mean, like, I would be upset.

[Matt Jones]

I'd be like, you couldn't have told me.

[Ryan Lemon]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

After all these years.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

That you were leaving. I had to find out from Wildcat Tongue. I would be frustrated without question.

[Ryan Lemon]

Sure. As you say.

[Matt Jones]

And. And you know, when I put that information out, some people were blaming the athlete. I don't blame the athlete. I wouldn't sit there and assume Shannon was going to leave for just the Cutler. And if he left for just the Cutler and I found out from a tongue, I would be upset. This is so crazy scenario. So I understand, Ryan, why UK would.

[Shannon The Dude]

Be frustrated by that 100%. I completely understand it. So the conspiracy theorists would probably say, he ain't leaving. He wants to stay here. That's why he hasn't resigned yet.

[Matt Jones]

So is there a chance? We see him walking down the street with his cat In a stroller?

[Shannon The Dude]

I don't think we'll see.

[Matt Jones]

Was the dog. The dog.

[Shannon The Dude]

Little dog in a stroller?

[Matt Jones]

Is there a chance we see with the dog in a stroller with Keith Farmer and Maggie Davis outside of his.

[Shannon The Dude]

House, which, you know, last night on Big Blue Tonight, they did not even mention it because it's not been released by the university.

[Matt Jones]

Interesting, because again, and I. Maggie Davis, one of my favorite people on earth, and Keith Farmer's always been nice. But they have to go through the UK marching orders.

[Shannon The Dude]

Correct.

[Matt Jones]

And I know Maggie Davis well enough to know she wanted to talk about. Had to. So the fact she didn't talk about it means they told her not to talk about it, which is interesting to me in and of itself. But is there a chance that he's walking with his dog in a stroller in between Jeff Ruby's and Tony's, like, hoping people hold up a boombox and ask him to come back?

[Shannon The Dude]

I don't think he's gonna be walking a dog, but I can see maybe having second thoughts.

[Matt Jones]

But you. He can't come back.

[Ryan Lemon]

No, No.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, he couldn't.

[Ryan Lemon]

If you're contested, you allow him to come back.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think you can. I think this is one of those things, like the fan bay. You. You can't.

[Shannon The Dude]

I think same thing with Cal. I think he started having second thoughts, wanted to come back. It was too late.

[Matt Jones]

Here's what I hear. So I'm gonna. This is exactly what I told Vince in December or November when the Louisville thing was first percolating. I said, look, you can't do this again. Like, when he was talking about coming on the show.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

I was like, this has to be the last time. Right. Meaning, like, the fan base is not going to do a. Will he or won't he with you again? So, like, if you're coming back, Shannon, you got to stay back. Right. Like. Like, you get. You can't keep doing this every year.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah. You can't. You can't keep flirting with teams. And you're either all in or you're not.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. You can't keep batting your eyes. And like, right there comes a point. And he stayed. But I think at this point, the fan base would just be like, you're with him now. You made that choice.

[Shannon The Dude]

So many people yesterday, I was at a golf scramble. So many people came up and said, I knew when he came on with you guys in December, something wasn't right.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah. I could read it for sure. You could just tell his demeanor was off.

[Matt Jones]

And we were at the Pizza Ranch.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah, I was, you know, I was zoned in on him going, there's something up here. There's something.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, right.

[Matt Jones]

With the way he wasn't the same in that conversation.

[Ryan Lemon]

You asked him about it, like, are you going to take the job? And he goes, well, I'm not even going. Going to address that. He didn't answer you. He signed, which is why you came back again at the end and asked that question. And that's the clip that I played for you yesterday when he hesitated again to answer it.

[Matt Jones]

So that, that's a great point.

[Ryan Lemon]

Very evading.

[Matt Jones]

He was like a politician.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah.

[Shannon The Dude]

Here's the other, here's the other point a lot of people brought up. Has he been checked out so long that. Is that why we only have two recruits locked in for next year? Has he been checked out for a couple months?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, I don't know how you could think otherwise. I mean, we've never only had two. No official visits from Ohio. I mean, clearly, clearly something was up. I mean, I don't, you know, Mark Stoops, first of all, Mark Stoops, as soon as. Whatever happens as official Needs to talk.

[Shannon The Dude]

He does. We need to hear from our leader.

[Matt Jones]

And then Vince, I mean, he does. He's not, I would say, Vince, like, I'd love to have you on here, but like in your best interest is go sit with the, with cat with the cards. Yeah, go sit there and listen to them. Go. Okay, here we go. I mean, their listenership will double from 20 to 25 that day and let them, you know, like, do that. Okay, that's what you. That's you. That's you. Now you decided to. To. To L. Yeah. So that's that. So 859-280-2287. Ask anything Wednesday. Feel free to call, ask a question about that. Give your thoughts. I do want to, though. The only thing I regretted about yesterday's show is we didn't get talk about Murray's Day because I. The Murray State story would be an awesome story even if it wasn't in Kentucky.

[Shannon The Dude]

Agreed.

[Matt Jones]

Right. Like if this story was in Montana, it would still be a great story. They're going to the College World Series. Their attendance, their capacity at their baseball stadium is 800 people. I mean, let's be real. Pike County Central's baseball stadium is probably bigger than that. I'd say every baseball stadium in Lexington is bigger than that. Every high school stadium. Right.

[Shannon The Dude]

And out of the 800, probably only 100 go to their Home games.

[Matt Jones]

Nobody's there. I saw a picture of their stadium. It looks like a mediocre high school stadium.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know if I believe the story that the manager mows the grass, but I like it, Shannon, so I'm gonna say it anyway. You think the manager is the one that mows the grass?

[Ryan Lemon]

I could totally see that. Yeah. They won't have the funds to hire, you know, landscape.

[Matt Jones]

Think Murray State has someone that does land. But you know what? Let's just say he. Let's say he mows the ground.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

What an awesome story.

[Shannon The Dude]

It is an awesome story.

[Matt Jones]

And to watch them win, you know, we didn't talk about it. They had already celebrated once.

[Shannon The Dude]

They had to win the game twice.

[Ryan Lemon]

Ending I've ever seen, I think, to a game.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean, they had a dog pile.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

Then the. Then the baseball were like, sorry, you got to do it again. It wasn't interference. And they came out of the dog pile. The pitcher had been at the bottom of the dog.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, I'm getting hurt.

[Matt Jones]

The pitcher had.

[Shannon The Dude]

Had the whole top of him, shirt, tail hanging out. When he gets off the ground, you.

[Matt Jones]

Know, he's got like oatmeal on his face and he's got a. I don't know. That was so weird. Is. How did he get the oatmeal on his face? And he had to get up and pitch, and then he gets the guy out and then they dog pile again.

[Shannon The Dude]

Dog pile again.

[Matt Jones]

And it was great. I loved it. And I, you know, write the person, see if he can come on tomorrow.

[Shannon The Dude]

I. I can get you the. One of the pitchers, too.

[Matt Jones]

I like the manager. Nothing against the pitcher. I don't know what to say to the pitcher.

[Shannon The Dude]

The guy who pitched the. Came in the first out of the reliever. Reese Oakland.

[Matt Jones]

No, now, see, he's putting me on the spot, Shannon. Like I'm turning down Reese Oakland, the manager. We have chemistry.

[Shannon The Dude]

Okay, gotcha.

[Matt Jones]

We have chemistry.

[Shannon The Dude]

Skirka. Skirka.

[Ryan Lemon]

You didn't even know his name until you just said that again.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but we have. We have chemistry. And I. We connect.

[Shannon The Dude]

Did you see the end of the game? He's holding his boy doing the interview.

[Matt Jones]

And I thought this was cool. He want the. The team wanted to pour stuff on him. He's like, hey, guys, sorry, gotta go, gotta go. He looks at ESPN National, Shane. And says, I gotta go.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I gotta mow the grass.

[Ryan Lemon]

You don't want to get your headset doused in Gatorade.

[Matt Jones]

You know, I got grass to mow. Here, Come on. So now they're in the hardest bracket. Did you see there with ucla, LSU and Arkansas? Yeah, the worst brack now. But you know what?

[Shannon The Dude]

Let's go racers.

[Matt Jones]

Believe in them.

[Shannon The Dude]

Let's go.

[Matt Jones]

The grass mowers.

[Shannon The Dude]

The grass mowers.

[Matt Jones]

Ucla, Murray State.

[Shannon The Dude]

Do you how many people that play for UCLA even knew where Murray State was?

[Matt Jones]

It's awesome. John Morant says he's going to the game. Oh, that's cool enough to Omaha.

[Shannon The Dude]

That's awesome.

[Ryan Lemon]

About to find out where.

[Matt Jones]

They're about to find out. That's right.

[Ryan Lemon]

Come see about it.

[Matt Jones]

They're about to get dog piled with the oatmeal on the face. 859-280-2287. Text machine is 777-45254. We'll take a break. Talk, Vince, talk. Murray college basketball has made some big rules changes that I'm in favor of. We'll go through that and more. Is Kentucky sports radio.

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[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, Dad's a Kentucky Wesleyan.

[Matt Jones]

By the way, a kid that hit two home runs was from Madisonville. And they gave a shout out to Madisonville and Sports center loved it. If Drew hadn't taken this six week vacation, we wouldn't have been able to talk about it with him.

[Shannon The Dude]

Drew would be bouncing off the Wallsville on Sports center.

[Matt Jones]

And it wasn't even Michael Eves who's from Madisonville.

[Shannon The Dude]

That's right. I didn't think about that. Yeah, Michael's from Madisonville.

[Matt Jones]

So. So that was that. That's cool. Apparently he doesn't mow the grass.

[Shannon The Dude]

I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised. Our coach used to mow the outfield grass.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but it is 20, 25.

[Shannon The Dude]

That's true.

[Matt Jones]

I mean like you played back when each college had like 30 people.

[Shannon The Dude]

Each basket's for basketball.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So you know, Shannon, I was telling you, I've been, been doing this like steps, like I'm all into the steps.

[Ryan Lemon]

How many steps are you getting in a day on average?

[Matt Jones]

I'm averaging, I'm averaging about 9,500 a day.

[Shannon The Dude]

That's pretty good.

[Ryan Lemon]

You go another 500, making an even 10,000.

[Matt Jones]

I'd like to, but the problem is I do it with my phone. So like if I don't have my phone, it doesn't count. And I tend to leave my phone sometimes on the table. Like I think I. I'm going ahead in my mind saying I get the other 500 just around the house.

[Ryan Lemon]

Gotcha. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You know what I mean? Like when I'm walking around the house.

[Ryan Lemon]

I feel like get you, get you a Fitbit.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I don't want that thing on my wrist and all that. By the way. I don't, I don't buy it. There's no way my phone knows.

[Ryan Lemon]

No.

[Matt Jones]

How's it.

[Ryan Lemon]

No, no, it's, it's, it can't.

[Matt Jones]

How's it know how many steps I have?

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, kind of similar. I don't. How does it know how fast you're driving when you're in the car?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, it does that by gps, which. But with steps. The reason I'm saying that is how's it know how tall I am? Like it would take me fewer steps to walk somewhere than it would take you.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, you're a fast walker. He's got a large gate.

[Matt Jones]

Has it no speed and all that. Like I can see. Yes. Could do miles because it has a gps. But it doesn't know how many steps I have. So I, but nevertheless, I still. Even though I Don't think.

[Ryan Lemon]

I think you could just shake your phone and it would count for steps, you know, if I just did this.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, maybe. I mean, jurors told that story. When he had the thing on his wrist, he would just throw it in the dryer. He had a competition with his friends who could get the most steps, and he just threw his in the dryer at night. Spoiler alert. I don't know if his friends know that.

[Shannon The Dude]

That's why Drew won the contest. The other day, you said you walked 13 miles.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. That was 24,500 steps.

[Shannon The Dude]

That's a lot.

[Matt Jones]

That was a lot sore for days. Me on my average, a little bit. Shannon, you know, then. Then you. Then you could have some. Some days. All right. Jerry's on the phone. Jerry, I was disappointed in you yesterday. I'm not gonna lie. You were like, now for Louisville, 1C4. I was very disappointed.

[Caller]

Okay, first off, go racers.

[Matt Jones]

Second, I asked you. Don't. I want to revise.

[Caller]

I want to revise. Extend my remarks.

[Matt Jones]

What?

[Caller]

I only had 30 seconds. Matt, what I was trying to say is you're only going.

[Matt Jones]

I still hate Louisville. Okay, well, okay.

[Caller]

I hate. Still hate Louisville. I would hate events left for Louisville, but because of a lot of things that are going on. I can see why now. I'm not saying I like it. I'm not saying it's because I. I really.

[Matt Jones]

Man, I think this thing of Jerry. Why did he have to go to Louisville? I can see why he would leave. Why does he have to go to Louisville?

[Caller]

I'm not saying he has to go to Louisville, but I can see he's close to Braum. You said his. You know, his wife has roots here. He can still live in Lexington and drive up the road to Louisville.

[Matt Jones]

He bet. He can't live in Lexington. You can't live.

[Caller]

What I'm saying is I can understand it. And this is why my. My big overall concern is this thing with the house money. If Kentucky football. And I understand why.

[Matt Jones]

I understand the fly topic, though. That's a different topic.

[Caller]

If Kentucky football is not going to have the resources of other SEC teams. I mean, I could see Stoops leaving if he wins six or seven games over that and then how and everybody.

[Matt Jones]

I don't want to get into all that. I agree with you. That's in the. I agree with you. That's important. But that's not this. And he did not leave because of the house settlement. All right. I love Vince. Vince wasn't up reading that. 77 a page opinion, Shannon on Friday? No, I'm pretty confident about that.

[Ryan Lemon]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. So that's not why I left. He left, I think, for the reasons we've talked about, the power thing. And what about. Did you see the conversation between he and Nick Roush?

[Ryan Lemon]

Yes, I did. When he said.

[Matt Jones]

Did you see this?

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah. Because Nick tweeted.

[Matt Jones]

So Nick Roush tweeted out a story that's on ksr and here was the headline. Vince Merrow lost power in the Kentucky football recruiting room. Why? We're taking a closer look at his recruiting resume. And quantity was not always greater than quality. So that seems like potentially. I haven't even read the article, but like, potentially a stir in the pot. Ralph.

[Shannon The Dude]

Oh, yes. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Vince replies to him and says, lol, I'll be speaking soon on this. If you want to see angry Kentucky fans, look at his replies to Vince, look. And Vince's reply.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah, I already have. It's amazing how quickly people can turn. Of course, you know, he turned. He turned first, though.

[Matt Jones]

He did, too.

[Shannon The Dude]

I think some of the most.

[Matt Jones]

By the way, the Louisville people are flipping, too.

[Shannon The Dude]

Oh, sure.

[Matt Jones]

Like Mike Rutherford, who I. I like. I think Mike's one of the smartest people that covers college sports. But Mike Rutherford has been doing the grown man G R, O, A N laughing at, you know, because that's how Vince spelled spells grown a lot on. On Twitter. He's been laughing at that for years. And now they're all in.

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, of course he's on their side now.

[Matt Jones]

We all do this. I understand that.

[Shannon The Dude]

I think some of the most interesting stuff you talked about yesterday, as far as Vince and the power at uk, when you said they took Ohio away from him and Eddie Graham became more in control of the transfer roster, I think those two things combined, if that's legit, I think that speaks volumes.

[Matt Jones]

I think that was probably a huge thing one person writes. Matt, tell Shannon if he goes to just the Cutler, I will drive by him at Dunkin Donuts and flip him off, too.

[Ryan Lemon]

As you should.

[Matt Jones]

He would.

[Ryan Lemon]

You have to worry about that.

[Matt Jones]

Louisville fans, by the way, have also gotten on the. You know that Mario posted the clip of me talking about it.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

And I said something like, hey, Vince, you can go. You know, it shows the difference in the programs. You're listening to this show, texting in. You're not going to do that there. And all these people are like, he acts like Louisville doesn't have radio shows. Well, they have them. They actually have more UK shows than we do.

[Shannon The Dude]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

But it's because none of them are listened to. That's. It's a quantity. It's Nick Roush's story. Yeah, it's quantity over. I don't say quality. I think some of them are fine, but they don't get listened to. The reason this one is what it is is Louisville does not support one. And so there's like 10 trying to get it, but they don't really support any of them. Dean, you know, dinner is probably the biggest. And even that, like, you don't hear about it.

[Shannon The Dude]

You know, we both said that Vince should go on the Louisville radio show.

[Matt Jones]

Yesterday, go on like six.

[Shannon The Dude]

But now if there was that an official word, I guess he can't really go on a show yet.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. Do you think Barry State has any chance of doing something?

[Shannon The Dude]

I never thought they could win at Ole Miss. I didn't think they could win one.

[Matt Jones]

Duke?

[Shannon The Dude]

Yes.

[Ryan Lemon]

They put 12 months up on Ole Miss, 19 on Duke. This team can score a lot of runs and they're gonna have to play as a chance.

[Matt Jones]

UCLA and then either LSU or Arkansas. So they're going to play playing two powerhouse teams.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, the draw kind of sucks for them.

[Matt Jones]

So you think they can get one?

[Shannon The Dude]

They can get one.

[Matt Jones]

All right.

[Shannon The Dude]

Why not?

[Matt Jones]

Why not?

[Shannon The Dude]

Why not? Madisonville, Kentucky, Marshall County. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Oatmeal. We'll take your calls. Ask anything Wednesday. Ksr, TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call tj. He'll make him pay.

[Ryan Lemon]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back, Techy Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. There's people on. I'm going to go to them right here. By the way, somebody sent me. Vince's contract called for him to be paid from July 1 to June 30. So maybe that's what it is. Shannon, you want to get the last check? Because the last check would go out probably Friday.

[Shannon The Dude]

Why wouldn't you want to do that?

[Matt Jones]

Maybe that's what it may be for. Another check that simple. Again, everybody's just human beings, right? Like you're going to. You want to get a last check before you do the.

[Shannon The Dude]

Do you believe that, though? They've really got nothing to do about money. Like, his contract at Louisville will be similar that.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. And again, I mean, like, I know that UK says they weren't informed. I mean, I wasn't there. So, like, I don't know. I know they were surprised. I know the donors were surprised. So, you know, ultimately, it does not go matter. He's the coach there. Good luck. I mean, he might be listening. It ain't as good there. Have fun. You may. You probably gonna win more games next year. But I know what he enjoys and it won't be as fun here. You're not the toast of the town. He'll go out and Louis, nobody's not gonna know who he is in Lexington. You're one of the two most famous people in the city.

[Shannon The Dude]

Walks into Cast bar and he gets a standing ovation every time.

[Matt Jones]

There's a whole part of Louisville that doesn't even care about sports. I live there. Shannon. Right. Like that part of town. He could walk. There's not one person there who would know who he is like that. A significant amount of the city of Louisville does not even care about Louisville athletics. They have no idea.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

It's a different place.

[Shannon The Dude]

And here everybody knows who.

[Matt Jones]

And if you're Jeff Brahm can walk out in parts of Louisville and people don't know who.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Not. I mean, he's a little different. He's from there. So maybe that's not true. But you know, Steve, Craig Thorpe certainly could.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Right.

[Shannon The Dude]

Kelsey? Probably even good.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean that. You got to be a larger than life personality. And Vince to some extent is. But it's not this. It's just not the same in Louisville. It's a different city than Lexington where our whole community revolves around this university enterprise. Danny, let's give everybody 30 seconds. Sharon, because we got a lot of people. Danny, go ahead.

[Caller]

Hey, it's. It's Danny.

[Ryan Lemon]

You talking to me twice a Danny.

[Matt Jones]

So I said Danny.

[Caller]

I thought you said Danny. Sorry. Hey, morning, guys. How you doing?

[Matt Jones]

I got.

[Caller]

I have two questions. I. I asked these questions as someone that currently has a partially eaten Weetabix box in my pantry. That's my inspiration. So my questions are what would you set the over. Under on percentage of Weetabix eaten versus purchased during the tournament.

[Matt Jones]

That's a great.

[Caller]

And should we send all our.

[Matt Jones]

Got the first. I like the first question. I do 10. It's awful.

[Shannon The Dude]

It's not good. But it's better than I thought it was gonna be when we tried it.

[Matt Jones]

Have you eaten it?

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, we tried it on one of our shows. No, I didn't get a box.

[Matt Jones]

If I got in a box, it would be.

[Shannon The Dude]

Wouldn't be completely.

[Matt Jones]

I would say 20% or less. Because I don't think it's good at all. No, Shannon, don't you.

[Ryan Lemon]

I haven't tried it. You know, the Only opportunity I had to try it was out of Drew Franklin's pocket. I wasn't eating pocket weed. A Bix. So, no, I have not had it yet.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but you have to. Loaded with sugar.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, we'd have it.

[Matt Jones]

Should have done that back in February.

[Shannon The Dude]

Oh, no doubt.

[Matt Jones]

If they had done it in February and you'd have had the whole month there to do it, they would have sold a lot of it here.

[Shannon The Dude]

Totally dropped the ball for marketing because when is ever Weedy Bakes going to get that kind of publicity ever?

[Matt Jones]

Never. Except now. But it's not good.

[Shannon The Dude]

Not good.

[Matt Jones]

I'll tell you. But, you know, maybe it's better the second try. Well, like, here's a transition. The TV show Shannon Tires, you know that show is saying Gillis.

[Ryan Lemon]

Heard of it, but never seen it on Netflix.

[Matt Jones]

Love Shane Gillis.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Become one of my favorite comedians. Season one of Tires. Awful. I was so disappointed. I was like, I like you so much. This show is not good. Season two, my buddy the Turkey hunter was like, it's good. Much, much better. Really Much better. Like a different show. Reminds me of Parks and rec and even 30 Rock season one. And then they find their groove in season two. Succession is kind of like that too. It's okay in season one, but then it really finds its groove in season two. So big shout out Tires. Season Tires. Yeah.

[Shannon The Dude]

Usually it's the other way around.

[Matt Jones]

Usually it is the other way around. Like, there are some shows that season one is awesome and then it gets awful. Yeah, Homeland.

[Ryan Lemon]

Usually they run out of ideas about season two or three.

[Matt Jones]

Homeland. Season one's great. And it gets progressively awful.

[Shannon The Dude]

Did you ever get through Righteous Gemstones?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, and it's. It gets a little worse, but I still like it. Yeah, you is an example of that.

[Shannon The Dude]

Another one.

[Matt Jones]

You really good in season one. Decent. Season two then gets worse. Every game of throws. Not game. Excuse me. Yeah, the one house of cards that Kevin Spacey's.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

First season, great. Gets progressively a little worse as it goes along. But sometimes a show's not great and then it gets better. Parks and Recognition. The Office, I think is like that. The Office is a couple good episodes in the first season, but I think it really takes off in the second one. 30 Rock and now I would put tires like that.

[Ryan Lemon]

Did you finish you. The last season just came out.

[Matt Jones]

I couldn't get through the season before.

[Ryan Lemon]

This season's good.

[Matt Jones]

Is it better? The one that was. Which was four in London.

[Ryan Lemon]

Skip. Yeah, Skip that one.

[Matt Jones]

I couldn't watch the one that was all I could. I couldn't watch it. It just completely off. I liked. I liked one. I like two. Three was okay. Four.

[Shannon The Dude]

I was terrible.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Logan. Go ahead, Logan.

[Caller]

Hey. Hope you guys are doing well. I went to Murray when Skoka was coming in and I can vouch that we do have a grounds team that mows.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, I know you addressed that earlier.

[Caller]

But we do have lawnmowers there. Secondly, I've seen a lot of Louisville fans compare what's going to happen to.

[Shannon The Dude]

Kentucky football to what happened to their basketball team. What would it take for our football.

[Caller]

Program to be as low as their basketball program was? Thanks, guys.

[Matt Jones]

It's impossible. No, here's why it's impossible. Because we have no expectations for UK football. Louisville basketball is the sixth or seventh best program in the history of the sport.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And they won six games. That's one of the most dramatic falls of all time.

[Shannon The Dude]

It is.

[Matt Jones]

Can you see Duke ever winning six games?

[Shannon The Dude]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Kentucky?

[Shannon The Dude]

No.

[Matt Jones]

We've only had two losing seasons in our history.

[Ryan Lemon]

You're giving them too much credit. They only won four. One game. One season.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, they win the next year.

[Ryan Lemon]

I think it was an eight.

[Matt Jones]

He won four and eight. They added up to 12.

[Ryan Lemon]

That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So he won four. So can you see Duke winning for North Carolina winning four, Kansas winning four. I mean, think about how terrible Indiana's been. Have they. Did they ever only win four? No.

[Ryan Lemon]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Four is awful.

[Shannon The Dude]

Awful.

[Matt Jones]

There's nothing. Kentucky foot. We would have to go negative 5 and 17. Like, you can't. Kentucky football, we don't have the expectations their basketball program does. So to be the sixth or seventh best, seventh best historical basketball program in history and win four games, that's as bad as it'll get. No one will ever do that.

[Shannon The Dude]

Bad.

[Matt Jones]

Right.

[Shannon The Dude]

Not a power program.

[Matt Jones]

We were on probation and went for what, 500?

[Shannon The Dude]

Yes, we did.

[Matt Jones]

You know, so. No, I mean, that's the worst season a major program has ever had. Maybe in any sport ever. Name one worse. Name me a top 10 program in any sport that's had a worse year than 4 and 27.

[Shannon The Dude]

Probably not going to be one out there.

[Matt Jones]

You're not going to find one. So that was the worst season in top 10 program history for anything. So, no, there's nothing we could do that would be that bad. Bruce. Go ahead, Bruce.

[Caller]

Hey, guys, how about the Texas A and M effect on this marrow deal where I don't think some of the major donors of UOFL may be like, we don't want them and are upset and that's, that's why it hasn't been announced because they're really. They were scuttle. But there, you know, the decision, final decision hasn't been made because some of these donors are saying you hire them. We're not paying for. Just. Just a thought.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I would be interesting. I appreciate the call. I think, you know, I've heard small rumblings that there are people not happy at Louisville.

[Shannon The Dude]

But there are.

[Matt Jones]

I think Louisville fans in general like to kind of stick it in Kentucky fans eyes. So I think they still ultimately would. Would want him. I don't know what he's going to cost though. I mean I don't know what they're paying him. So if you're a booster for UK.

[Shannon The Dude]

Football, how could you not want Vince?

[Matt Jones]

No. Now he's saying the U of L football boosters though.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah. How can you not want Vince Merrill? Yeah. If I'm a UNL U of L booster, I want Vince Merrill.

[Matt Jones]

There are some that think, well, we don't need him. Like we're already doing.

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, they have it. Did they not see what he's done as a recruiter?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but to be fair, Louisville's out recruited us in the last two years. Fair? Well, I mean that's, that's what they would say. I think they, I think they need him. Vince will. Vince will help. Vince will.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yes, he will.

[Matt Jones]

I mean Louisville has been a non factor in in state recruiting for eight or 10 years. That will change.

[Shannon The Dude]

Now the fact that they've got six of the top 10 kids in Kentucky already, that can't be a coincidence. Then all of a sudden Vince going to Louisville.

[Matt Jones]

Well, but okay, but you could use that the other way and go. They got six of the top 10 kids and he's not even there.

[Shannon The Dude]

I'm thinking they've already told these kids he's coming.

[Matt Jones]

You think he's been recruiting for Louisville?

[Shannon The Dude]

Maybe.

[Matt Jones]

It's a strong allegation.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemon]

Especially if he's listening right now.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, strong allegations.

[Shannon The Dude]

We're just spitballing stuff right now.

[Matt Jones]

Well, hang on, just say you don't get to just spitball. You're on the radio and I'm spitballing.

[Shannon The Dude]

I don't probably believe it happened.

[Matt Jones]

Why did you say it?

[Shannon The Dude]

You got to kind of throw it out there for conspiracy theorists.

[Ryan Lemon]

But this is why we need these coaches to get on here and dispel these things. Because if they don't, things like that come up.

[Matt Jones]

The void.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Is always going to be filled with nonsense like Ryan Lemon. Yeah, that's why the individuals need to talk. Because the Ryan Lemons of the world.

[Shannon The Dude]

Will do the talking.

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CT mobile dot com. Seinfeld is one too. Shannon that like got better first season. Seinfeld's not great. He even has different parents.

[Ryan Lemon]

I never really. Yeah, I never really got Seinfeld's parents.

[Matt Jones]

Are different in season one than they are in season two. They just replaced his parents and hope nobody would care. And they did.

[Ryan Lemon]

I guess I didn't realize that other shows too, like, they've done that.

[Matt Jones]

They replaced a kid in a show once, I think Family Matters.

[Ryan Lemon]

And they replaced Harriet, the actress.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they replaced Harriet.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah.

[Shannon The Dude]

One of the daughters on Roseanne got replaced in the middle of their series.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. That's got to be a tough blow when they're like, we're just not going to use you anymore. The middle child, Seinfeld, the dad or mom might have died, which is why I think I could be wrong about that. But then they just act like it's a new person. They didn't even on Seinfeld. They didn't even address. It was a different person. It's like, well, he has different parents now.

[Ryan Lemon]

Didn't they do that with the Dukes of Hazzard? Didn't they replace.

[Matt Jones]

Well, they tried to do both of them, but it didn't work. They called it they least knowledge that they were like their cousins. They didn't say. They didn't try to act like they were the exact same.

[Ryan Lemon]

I couldn't remember if I thought they.

[Matt Jones]

Were like they were their cousins or something. So, yeah, Seinfeld's a good one. About a show that was not good in the first season but then got one person said, I'd love to hear Ryan just spitball his conspiracy theories. Yeah. That would get us off the air. You can't just say, like, you can't just say he was recruiting. You have no basis for that.

[Shannon The Dude]

Completely. No basis. It's just, you know, if you're on the outside looking in. Kentucky's only got two recruits.

[Matt Jones]

Louisville's got six looking in. People think you know things.

[Shannon The Dude]

Oh, no, I'm just spitballing.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. It's just spitball. I keep seeing on. On the TikTok people going crazy going, I'm so tired of the cicadas in Lexington.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I don't hear any cicadas.

[Ryan Lemon]

Well, they're bad.

[Shannon The Dude]

They're all on the south side.

[Matt Jones]

Where are they?

[Shannon The Dude]

Like, south side, like, from.

[Matt Jones]

But I don't have any next to me. Is it. So are they literally just in that part of town?

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, like here or. I live in Masterson Station area. None. But then you go on the south side.

[Matt Jones]

So where are we talking about? Where can I go and see what's. What's annoying?

[Shannon The Dude]

Beaumont, Palomar, Hartford.

[Matt Jones]

So out there it's bad.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Because I don't hear any.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, I don't hear any.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so it is a part of town.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Because people are like losing their minds about the cicadas and I haven't.

[Ryan Lemon]

Terrorists, they just terrorize you. They'll like, fly right at your forehead and.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemon]

Like, just horrible. Yeah. And they're really seeing the highlands.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think we have them. I didn't. I haven't.

[Ryan Lemon]

Those people are probably eating them. That part of the neighborhood.

[Matt Jones]

We're not savages. Okay.

[Ryan Lemon]

Like, you can't eat them.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, I don't. In the two places where I live, I don't hear.

[Shannon The Dude]

It is weird how they just kind of land in certain pockets and. But.

[Matt Jones]

But people are acting like it's the worst thing that's ever.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah. That King Trace golf club yesterday, I got nailed by one of them.

[Matt Jones]

I thought also they only came out like every 17 years.

[Shannon The Dude]

It is something weird like that.

[Matt Jones]

So why are they out right now?

[Ryan Lemon]

Is this 17 year? It's time.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah. Somebody woke them up.

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, you've seen the pictures where like people walking across the yard and just crunch, crunch, crunches. Walking on the dead carcass.

[Matt Jones]

But it's so weird that a part of town would have them and like there would be none where you and I agreed. That seems strange.

[Shannon The Dude]

Seems to me very strange.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but. But it is like all some people talk about are cicadas.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You go out and they're like.

[Ryan Lemon]

Well, they just land on you and they sit there and look at you with their red eyes. They can't bite you. They can't hurt.

[Matt Jones]

Don't do anything to me. Because I'm. I think they're scared of me.

[Ryan Lemon]

I think so.

[Shannon The Dude]

They make the, you know, the kind of that screechy noise all the time.

[Matt Jones]

They're awful. When I lived in D.C. it was like the. Every 20 years time and it was just horrendous. So I remember what they're like.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But I just haven't heard them here. Andrew. Go ahead, Andrew.

[Caller]

What's up, guys? Just a question for everyone. If you all can have a one hour dinner with any athlete, dead or alive, who would it be and why? Thanks.

[Matt Jones]

Dead or alive? Ali.

[Shannon The Dude]

It's a great one.

[Matt Jones]

Just all. I mean, just his life story and how in the world did you become friends with Captain Suntan? I'm kidding. But like, his life story is amazing and all the things he went through and all that. So probably. Dead or alive. Muhammad Ali.

[Shannon The Dude]

Great choice for alive. I'd probably pick Larry Bird.

[Matt Jones]

I thought you're gonna say Stan Musial or something in the Cardinals guy.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah. Lou Brock was my hero.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Shannon The Dude]

But Larry Bird. I've never even met Larry Bird. He grew up 30 minutes from where I grew up.

[Matt Jones]

It's like you could do that.

[Shannon The Dude]

I. I still never met him. Not even.

[Matt Jones]

He doesn't seem to be like all that interesting.

[Shannon The Dude]

No, but I could talk to him and kind of relate to him back and forth.

[Matt Jones]

You think you could relate?

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You think you and he would be friends?

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, I do it as my dad.

[Matt Jones]

Be more for him than you. Sure.

[Shannon The Dude]

Probably. I think I do. It is. My dad was coach at Scholes and coached against Larry Bird.

[Matt Jones]

He probably remember that channel.

[Shannon The Dude]

And he held Larry Bird to a cool 32 points.

[Matt Jones]

I don't remember that. Shannon, who would yours be?

[Ryan Lemon]

Oh, I don't know. Mike Tyson would be fun.

[Matt Jones]

You could pay 49.99 and make that happen.

[Ryan Lemon]

Well, I would pay it right now if we could make that happen. Ric Flair. Like you probably just go to any.

[Matt Jones]

No, you could do that.

[Ryan Lemon]

Just go to any bar.

[Matt Jones]

He's kind of had a sad breakdown here in the last few weeks on social media. Have you seen this stuff he's been posting? Yeah, it's kind of sad, actually. It's kind of. It's like you're watching a person real time.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Break down.

[Shannon The Dude]

It is kind of sad.

[Matt Jones]

It is. It's kind of sad.

[Ryan Lemon]

I'm still have dinner with them though. I don't care.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. No. Casey, go ahead. 30 seconds. Hey, good morning, fellers.

[Caller]

So I just have three quick things. Leaving the.

[Shannon The Dude]

The SEC for ACC football coaching job is a shunt. Move Kentucky till I die.

[Matt Jones]

If you go down, I'm going down too. We gotta. We. This is such a chump move.

[Shannon The Dude]

Go Cats.

[Matt Jones]

All right. There you go. I think that's a pretty universal.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

It's a pretty universal feeling. I don't hear a lot of people going. Except for Jerry. It's always have Jerry and Billy.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Jerry and Billy will be the two people Vince will have saying they understand. You know, it is funny though, people. People will move on quickly. You know what I mean? Like, they'll. It'll be what it'll be. One person here writes on the text machine. Matt, I don't know how you can say you have no football expectations. That's crazy to me. Me again. We've talked about this a lot over the years. I think it's an age thing. I think younger people who grew up not knowing that we always stunk.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Have a different set of expectations than I do. I have expectations that will be competitive, but I don't have expectations that we will win 9, 10, 11 games every year. I'm glad people do. That's fine. I just want to have expectations that will not make me always unhappy. So my expectation is win six. We didn't do that last year. If you don't do it this year, then I start to get very frustrated.

[Shannon The Dude]

We remember the years, they were 0 and 11, 1 and 10, 2 and 9. That not. Not that far away in our lifetime. But you're right. Like young guys like Josiah, they just know UK football is winners going to bowl games every year.

[Matt Jones]

And a lot of the frustration, you know, the. A lot of the. Mark Stoops. The Mark Stoops timeline is fascinating. I think it goes back to the fight with Cap and the cow. People just turned on Mark Stoops. They later turned on Cal, too. But they got. They started by. During the. Cal Stoops. Is this a basketball football school? They sided with Cal and they started hating Mark Stoops. And then there's also an expectation level for a lot of those folks. Like, they just were never around. I mean, I went 35 years where we had one season that was good, which was the couch year. Right. And then Andre Woodson here, we had like two seasons that were good.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So it's just an expectation thing. I'm not saying other people are wrong. It's just what you became used to. Life's about expectations in pretty much everything. We'll come back. Our number two. It's Ask Anything Wednesday, KSR.