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Shannon The Dude
Welcome back. Our number two here Kentucky Sports Radio live. What's the name of the Heritage Place?
Matt Jones
Heritage Place.
Shannon The Dude
Heritage Place. Well that's as close as we'll get.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Shannon The Dude
Although UK JMI like Tech Jim Barnhart, who's been doing it for years, he wrote me to make sure to say this is not. Not a retirement community. He wanted me to say that because he lives here. He was very important. He said he wanted to make sure we knew that that's not what this was. So I don't know what it is, but Jim Barnard want to make clear he lives here, so don't be saying that.
Matt Jones
I said retirement community early in the show, and they all kind of belong to people giving me the stink eye. Oh, no. We are not a retirement community.
Shannon The Dude
Not a retirement community. Just a community of wonderful folks. Now, tomorrow we're going to be doing a show to celebrate the 250th anniversary of the Army.
Matt Jones
Yes.
Shannon The Dude
Unlike Trump, we're not bringing tanks. We are just going to go and what is. What is the. That the address where we're going to be is where I was earlier, because I thought we were. It was on Sir Barton Way. You'll get the address. Yeah, but the army folks are welcoming people to come. They said they might even have. Well, I said they weren't gonna bring tank. Maybe they will, because they actually said they're gonna have some stuff for people to look at at the show. Like when we did the show at the fire department, they had the truck. So when. When. When Ryan gives the address, we will. But that's tomorrow. It's in Hamburg. What's the address?
Ryan Lemond
2304, Sir Barton Way. Sweet 130.
Shannon The Dude
2304, Sir Barton Way. Sweet 130. I think you're gonna have a hard time getting military vehicles in a suite. But how they gonna drive the. I don't know, but that's what they said. So I armed for our. Our armed forces. So to celebrate the 250th anniversary of the army, we will be there tomorrow. Yeah, that's gonna be awesome. So very cool.
Matt Jones
At least you know how to get there. You've already been there.
Shannon The Dude
I don't have to worry about finding it because that's where I was when I called you earlier today. I was like, this does not feel like it's someone's house.
Matt Jones
Oh, we need to give a shout out, though.
Shannon The Dude
Okay.
Matt Jones
Today's Drew Franklin's 40th.
Shannon The Dude
Today is Drew Franklin's 40th birthday. So that's why he is on vacation to celebrate. That is crazy to me. I Drew Franklin when he was 23 years old, and now he is 40 and has more gray in his beard than I do. Who would have ever. Who would have ever Imagined. But our longest employee with KSR goes back, literally hired him out of college when he was working at Tony Roma's. First time I met him, he came, he had barbecue sauce all over his shirt, and since then, been, you know, just awesome. My kind of partner in crime on all this for all these years.
Matt Jones
He's kind of the. The.
Shannon The Dude
The.
Matt Jones
The. The guy that kind of keeps us all normal, you know, I think we all got our own.
Shannon The Dude
But that's how you would characterize him.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I think we've all got our own little.
Shannon The Dude
I don't know if that's how I've. I've been with him on too many road trips to say he keeps us all normal.
Matt Jones
Well, yeah, the road trip. Drew's different than normal.
Shannon The Dude
Drew. Yeah. One of these days when this is all done, the Drew Franklin uncensored podcast of the stories from. From our early days, it great because Drew, back then we would travel. We would go to 14 games in 14 days with Fox Sports or CBS. And Drew and I would. We'd do the radio show too. And we would get up at like 8, 9am, 8:30am back then, you. We didn't have this. We couldn't just set up. We had to go to a physical radio studio, and we would. Wherever we were, find a physical radio studio. We go to it. Soon as the show was over, get in the car and drive to the next city, go to a game, stay up that night, write a story about the game for CBS or Fox. Go. Go back to hotel. At that point, it would be midnight, 1am I would go to bed. Drew would go out. Drew would go out. He was like, when are we ever going to be in Cedar Falls, Iowa, anymore? Let's go. And he would go out and he'd roll back in about four or five in the morning, and he would do it again the next day. And I don't know how he did it. I honestly have no. I. He was like a machine. In New York, he would do it. We were in New York for the US Open for two weeks. He did it every night. Every night. And I. I have no idea how he did it.
Matt Jones
Drew's greatest trait is he always answers the bell, always doesn't need any sleep. Zero sleep.
Shannon The Dude
He's only missed one. The start of one show for too much, and it was in the Bahamas. The only time he. He's ever done it. So. Happy 40th birthday. I'm sure you're listening, Drew. Love you, man. And we will see you on Monday. We didn't get to talk about this yesterday, let's talk about the new college basketball rules that got, that got created. These are I think for the most part all good rules. First of all, they're trying to do something about the fact that there's too many challenges, there are too many monitor reviews at the end of games makes them take forever. So they have changed the rule now when it comes to out of bounds goaltending and a couple of other minor ones, the each coach gets one challenge. At one point during the game you can say that ball is off them, not them. Go challenge it. If you win the challenge, you get one more and that's it no matter what. If you lose a challenge, you get no more and you lose a timeout. Alright, so you get one challenge. In the last two minutes of the game. The ref can look at goaltending on his own, but he can never look it out of bounds on his own. So you better be careful. You if you're going to use your challenge, you better a hope you're going to win and you better think like is this the right time for me to use it? In the last two minutes the ref can on their own look at, look at goaltending but they cannot look it out of bounds. Also the restricted circle, you can challenge it once. If you lose, you lose it. If you win, you get it one more time. And in the last two minutes the ref can look at that but the ref can't look at fouls, they can't look at out of bounds. So the theory is this will speed up the game and there'll be a little bit of sort of gamesmanship. As to when do you use your challenge? I think most coaches will wait till the end because it won't make sense to do it early in the game.
Matt Jones
Yeah, you're going to save it. We may need it in a late game situation. My favorite one.
Shannon The Dude
You like that rule?
Matt Jones
Love it. I love the fact about the out of bounds thing because it seems like 95% of the time the refs got it right anyway.
Shannon The Dude
I think it was becoming like a crutch for the, they were just looking at every single out of bounds call at the end and it was just making the game drag and drag and drag. Now there's going to be some game where the rep where the coaches use their challenge and then the refs will get it wrong at the end and it's going to drive everybody crazy. Yeah, but I still think it's better than the system.
Matt Jones
I think this is definitely a better system. We Have. I like the fact they can't review those things to the final two minutes of the game either. Don't waste the game in the early.
Shannon The Dude
They can on the coaches challenge the reference. Initiate one until the final two minutes.
Matt Jones
See, I like that too. No sense reviewing something in the first five minutes of the game.
Shannon The Dude
Now the other one is they're changing the rule now on when you go up for a shot and get fouled. You know, in the NBA they have continuation. Basically. If you're making a move to the basket, you get fouled, you can finish your move. In college, it's always supposed to have been. You have to literally be shooting when you got fouled. If you did anything after it didn't count. They're now changing the rule to be what they. How they were kind of starting to call it, which is when you get fouled, you can make like one move and shoot and then it'll still count. But you can't do in the NBA where you like take two steps and it's like supposed to be now. Who knows how they'll call it. But it's basically giving people a chance to get the and one easier. I like that rule because I think it doesn't give people the incentive. Well, here's what I would say if I'm a coach. If you're going to foul somebody. Foul. Yeah, like foul them. Because don't. If you let them get. And it'll help the strong players. Guys like Oscar back in the day who could take a hit and then keep his move going will actually be benefited I think by this. So the continuation goes a little bit longer.
Matt Jones
Like you said. I think they. In the college game they'd kind of been incorporating that even though it wasn't an official last year.
Shannon The Dude
It felt like they really did and that. But that wasn't what the rules. So it was inconsistent. This will be more supposedly we'll see more consistent.
Matt Jones
So maybe guys like Otega or average.
Shannon The Dude
This would help Otega. Yeah, this is one. I think this really will help dudes who go to the basket like with authority and then finish. I think. I think Otega is a great example of somebody who will benefit from this.
Matt Jones
And I agree. And I think that's gonna be finished though.
Shannon The Dude
Remember he missed a ton of layups.
Matt Jones
Last year Oklahoma game.
Shannon The Dude
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Just finish like you make that Oklahoma game.
Shannon The Dude
But you're right.
Matt Jones
He's a guy we got some guys that are probably going to affect greatly. That's how they play the game.
Shannon The Dude
Aberdeen him well and a dude like Muhammad Diabate. That's a big dude. That should be somebody that. That it helps. So those are two big.
Matt Jones
You like them all so far?
Shannon The Dude
I like all of them. And it says they're going to decide in a couple of weeks. They may move to quarters.
Matt Jones
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon The Dude
That's a big deal too. I mean, I don't. People don't think that's a big deal because it's the same amount of time. But four 10 minute quarters instead of two 20 minute halves leads to less free throws.
Matt Jones
Yes.
Shannon The Dude
Because the way it is now, seven fouls and you go to the free throw line. If it goes to quarters, it takes five fouls in a quarter to go to the line. So you will go to the free throw line. Less. There will be less. End of the game free throws. Another in the game will go faster. I mean this will make the college game go. Go faster.
Matt Jones
I love it. You know, every quarter, yeah, the fouls reset and I think I'm just watching the women's game. You know, they do it already. I love the way the flow of the game is now.
Shannon The Dude
The women's game is so much quicker in time than the men's game. The women's game, most women's games finish in two hours or less. The men's games, you know, can drag on and on and on. If they make that change, I think it will make them much shorter.
Matt Jones
Is this something that they would make A change would go into effect? This coming.
Shannon The Dude
They're talking about if they do it, they have to do it next week for it to be this season.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Shannon The Dude
But if they get it done next week, it will be in effect this season.
Matt Jones
There may be some purists that don't want to go away from the hats.
Shannon The Dude
But that's the only form of basketball in the world that plays halves. NBA plays quarters. Every professional league around the world plays quarters. International place quarters. Women play quarters. Men's college, high school plays quarters. Men's college basketball is the only sport that plays halves. And it just doesn't make sense.
Matt Jones
And I don't even know why. I don't know why we played. This has. It's just been that way our whole life.
Shannon The Dude
That's how it's been. So hopefully that changes. Who's next?
Ryan Lemond
Jerry.
Shannon The Dude
Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry.
Caller Jerry
Hey, Matt. First, I didn't say Vince left because the house thing, I said he was out, he was heading out the door. But the fact that his AD is going around saying that they're going short football for basketball money didn't help.
Shannon The Dude
You keep getting Upset about this thing about the money. So here's the serious question for you, Mitch Barnhart. And these eight in the ads all across the country are going to have to decide how they distribute their money. Would you rather make it to where UK basketball is playing with one hand behind their back so that football gets the equal amount of money? Or do you want to say, look, we're at a disadvantage in football anyway, let's make sure we can win a national title in basketball. What would. I mean, to put it a different way. If all SEC schools. Hang on, let me finish. Jerry. Jerry. It's KSR. If it's $14 million to football, 3 million to basketball, you would rather go 14 3, or would you rather do 12, 5 so that basketball has a chance to win with the theory of we can spend 14 in football and we're still going to be worse than the other teams. Okay.
Caller Jerry
Speaking as a football fan, I'd rather see the football get what they need. But let me say this. Football fans in Kentucky have been getting their. A swift kick to the nuts over football for 70 years.
Shannon The Dude
Yes.
Caller Jerry
In the last 40 years, we've had to sit back and watch those bird brain corpse up the road better manage their football program than we have, mostly except for the last 10 years. The last 10 years they've worked their tail ends off to get football on evil, even love basketball. And to where we're playing the sec. We with an SEC roster that's about to end with that idea now do I understand it? Yes. Is. But until that ch. Until that changes, either through a national body, however you want to create it, that sets limits on this. Sets. Sets reasonable limits on this money.
Shannon The Dude
Okay. They have. Set.
Caller Jerry
Doesn't do that. You can forget about Kentucky football.
Shannon The Dude
Appreciate the call. They. They have set limits. It's just the case, Ryan, that UK basketball is saying we want to make the decision in house at uk what we focus on. Rather than have the SEC tell us what we have to focus on.
Matt Jones
The example you throw out the other day. Villanova, Connecticut, Kansas, these schools we compete against recruiting on and on the floor, they're going to spend a lot more money on basketball than we are. So we've got to try to compensate somewhere, don't we?
Shannon The Dude
Look, I can. It's. It's like I think the economic term. I'm not an economics. Like, you know, I'm not. I don't know it completely, but I think the term is marginal value. And I think the idea is, you know, what is the difference between a Kentucky football team that spends 12 versus 14. There is going to be a difference. But how big a difference is. But the difference between a Kentucky basketball team that spends three and five might be huge.
Matt Jones
Huge.
Shannon The Dude
And I think the theory is do we just take the little hit on football to ensure we can compete for a title in basketball? Because honestly we ain't going to compete for a title in football no matter what we do. That's the theory. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I think that they're coming from and I agree.
Matt Jones
But I guess there's guys like Jerry that are die hard football fans that that kind of doesn't sit well with him that they're going to, you know.
Shannon The Dude
What would you do?
Matt Jones
I think at Kentucky, Kentucky is a special situation. You're in the sec, you got to compete against the top of the top in football, yet your basketball is the one that kind of drives the car. So I, you, I think you got to give more money to basketball.
Shannon The Dude
If there wasn't a Big east where Villanova, St. John's Connecticut can spend whatever they want and if there wasn't a Duke who. Duke's going to spend more money on basketball. Kansas is going to spend more money on basketball. If you want to compete with those teams, I feel like you got to do it. I feel like you got to because I don't say this to be rude. We can spend 14, we could spend all 20 on football. I still don't think we're going to meet Alabama and Georgia.
Matt Jones
You know, you're not wrong.
Shannon The Dude
I mean I, that's just. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe if we did beat it once.
Matt Jones
In a while, but not on a continual.
Shannon The Dude
For all the reasons I've always said we don't produce players here, etc. Now one of my excuses for football has always been we don't produce recruits in Kentucky. I do think that excuse goes away a little bit in the money here. Yeah, kids will be a lot more willing to travel if you've got more money.
Matt Jones
Very true.
Shannon The Dude
And the argument, and I'm not saying I believe this because I think Vince has a lot of ability but part of the argument, people will tell you as to why losing Vince doesn't matter as much as it did a few years ago is at this point people are going where the money is anyway. The personal relationships may not be as. As important as what they once were. We'll see. I don't know.
Matt Jones
It may a guy like Wandell Robinson leave and then Vince was able to convince him to come back.
Shannon The Dude
Certainly was able to do things, things like that. Yeah, we'll see. But would Wanda still come here if he could have made $500,000 more somewhere?
Matt Jones
True.
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Shannon The Dude
Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live. Come on now if you're gonna. Don't, don't. Don't make it seem like a retirement community. My mom wants to give wants me to give a big shout out to to the folks here who set this up, she said, that is an amazing food spread and the flowers. So let's give a round of applause to our.
Matt Jones
Those homemade cookies are fantastic.
Shannon The Dude
Flowers. You wouldn't make flour. You wouldn't put flowers up there.
Matt Jones
No, but I'll eat all those cookies.
Shannon The Dude
One of the women said she went to Cynthiana and got the country ham from there.
Matt Jones
Oh, that's why it's so good.
Shannon The Dude
Yes. My mom continues to say over and over she did work at the St. Commonwealth's Attorney's Office. And since she. I think she was worried that I was suggesting otherwise. A couple breaking news things here, Shannon. First of all, the NCAA has ruled against Zakai. Ziglar will not give him another. Excuse me. Courts have. Federal courts. He will not get another year of eligibility. That's the first court that, by the way. Yes. Get a job, Zakai. That's the. It's the first court, though, that's ruled you can't do more than. Than four years. That's what he was arguing. It should not be able to play college basketball as long as I want. The first federal court has said no. Now some bad news. They're having a House hearing right now on a bill to codify NCAA rule. Like the rules about nil.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Shannon The Dude
And apparently it's not going well.
Caller
Oh.
Shannon The Dude
Because it's becoming, like, partisan arguing the. How. This is just my opinion. The House of Representatives, which is already seems like a disaster, just needs to get out of it. Okay. They need to get out of it. This is a bill that cannot pass. If it's not. If it's. Unless it's bipartisan, has to have 60 votes in the Senate, which means Democrats have to agree. The House needs to get out of it because the House, all they do is fight. I know. I never thought I'd say this, but let Ted Cruz and Cory Booker do their thing. Whoa. Stay out of it. No, I'm serious. If it becomes a political issue, this is dead. If it becomes Republicans think this, Democrats think this, we're done. It will not pass in today's climate, especially with elections coming. But if the politics will stay out of it and they just try to fix college sports, which I can't believe I'm saying this, but I believe it. I do think Cory Booker and Ted Cruz want to do that. Stay out of it. House of Representatives. Let them do it. And then. Because when you get it in there with the AOCs and Marjorie Taylor Greene screaming at each other, it's not going to happen. So I hope they stay out of it or otherwise. Because if it becomes partisan, it will not pass. It just won't. And then we're going to be stuck in this. Who knows what happens.
Matt Jones
So based on what you just said, do you think this will get fixed or is it.
Shannon The Dude
Well, I don't like to hear that. I was hoping. I didn't know there was gonna be a house hearing. I was hoping they'd stay out of it because they can only make it worse. It's one of these weird things where the best system is to do it behind closed doors, come out with both sides of green, and then. And then that's really the only way it's gonna work.
Matt Jones
And it seemed like the thing was progressing in the right direction on this.
Shannon The Dude
It was. UK Football announced Texas and Tennessee games will be at night.
Matt Jones
Yes.
Shannon The Dude
The home game. And they're both here.
Matt Jones
Yes.
Shannon The Dude
October nights. Also Keeneland double weekend. So you could go to Keeneland during the game. The football game is at night. I mean, both those games are going to be big uphill battles to win. But I guess if we're going to win, having them at night is better, right?
Matt Jones
I think if you got a chance to beat either one of those teams, your best chance would be at night. When things just kind of crazy can happen in a college football game.
Shannon The Dude
So that means Kentucky will only have, by my count, two day games at home. So the first games. First games at noon. Yeah, the very first one. And then the game at the end of the year where we play like Tennessee Martin is. But ole miss at 3:30, the Eastern, whatever's at night, Tennessee's at night, Texas is at night, and then Florida or. Who is that? Who? The other one.
Matt Jones
The other home game.
Shannon The Dude
I think it's at night as well. So we. So we're going to have night games for all of our stuff.
Matt Jones
You got to think that gives you a better chance, doesn't it?
Shannon The Dude
There's just what? The one to watch is Florida in November at night. We've not played that. They've not had to come up here when it was cold, you know, like, since when, the 80s?
Matt Jones
Yeah. Back in those days, they even put Florida in the other side of the field in the shade where it was even colder than. Than the other side.
Shannon The Dude
Well, now they like, you know, we've played them in September forever and so they've never had to come here when it was cold. If you look at Florida schedule, they've never had to play anybody when it's cold. It's almost like the SEC would make it to where they didn't have to go to Missouri, Kentucky or Tennessee when it was cold. They'll be coming here on a November night when in theory it could be cold.
Matt Jones
Freddie used to grip about that all the time. Why is Florida coming up here in September? Make him come up here in November.
Shannon The Dude
When they play all those. The Northern teams like that.
Matt Jones
That's crazy.
Shannon The Dude
So they're finally going to do it. Does that make give you any more confidence that the Tennessee and Texas games are at night?
Matt Jones
I gives me a little more confidence that something crazy could happen that they could possibly pull one out of those. Oh, maybe.
Shannon The Dude
Shannon, do you think that's possible?
Ryan Lemond
No.
Shannon The Dude
Okay.
Ryan Lemond
I don't think it matters when you play it, to be honest with you.
Shannon The Dude
You can play in the morning after some positivity. After. You know what I'm worried about this morning?
Matt Jones
Kroger, Philby, it's gonna be all orange on those two games.
Shannon The Dude
I'm worried about the Texas one. You know, they've never been here. When it gets around their fan base that they can go to Keeneland and then come up here and they've never played here. They have a huge fan base with a ton of money. I could see them flooding this Me too. I mean, I could see them absolutely flooding the city for that game.
Matt Jones
Yeah, even the Tennessee game. I think we've seen Tennessee kind of start to take over our stadium once in a while and again.
Shannon The Dude
So that. That does worry me a little bit. We'll take a break. Be right back. Dan Skerka, the coach of Murray State going to the College World Series, is next. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call TJ he'll make him pay.
Ryan Lemond
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.
Shannon The Dude
Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live in Lexington. Heritage Place. Heritage Place out here in what you call is this. This is Palomar Beaumont, close to Beaumont.
Matt Jones
Close to Beaumont side of town.
Shannon The Dude
Yes. Dan Skirka, you said is where Shannon.
Ryan Lemond
Currently on another radio show. So I asked if maybe we could have him at 11:45, our next segment.
Shannon The Dude
And we got bumped. We got bumped for another show.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, he's currently.
Shannon The Dude
Now you're the one to book this. How did you let that happen?
Matt Jones
So he was going on the other show at 11:15, was scheduled then to be off and get on with us at 11:30.
Shannon The Dude
So it doesn't seem like that's happening.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I would try him again. I think we're good now.
Shannon The Dude
You think we're good now?
Ryan Lemond
I just talked to the guy 10 seconds ago.
Shannon The Dude
Well, Shannon, he's trying to. Try him again.
Matt Jones
Okay, try him again.
Shannon The Dude
All right, before you do that, put on a call while you're doing it. Who's next?
Ryan Lemond
All right, let's go to Johnny.
Shannon The Dude
Johnny, go ahead, Johnny.
Caller
Hey, Matt, I got two questions for you.
Shannon The Dude
Yes.
Caller
So in my opinion, BBN should be rooting for Cal in the Arkansas and Louisville game for the SEC challenge. But I know that you had a more of a peculiar relationship with Cal. Who are you personally rooting for in that game?
Shannon The Dude
That's a great question. So I appreciate the call. Can Arkansas draw. Draws Louisville.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Shannon The Dude
In the SEC ACC challenge or. I misspelled that on Twitter.
Matt Jones
Really? What you put.
Shannon The Dude
I might have put scx. ACC Challenge.
Matt Jones
That's a different kind of challenge.
Shannon The Dude
Different kind of challenge. Shannon, that's ringing on the phone.
Ryan Lemond
I just realized that.
Shannon The Dude
Okay. All right. I would have liked for you to have done that live on the air. It's a good question. You take it. You pulling for Louisville or Arkansas? So you got. You got. Pat Kelsey's going down to Fayetteville. Who are you cheering for in that game?
Matt Jones
I cannot, cannot cheer for Louisville. Even though it's Cal. I'm cheering for him. It's sec. It's a challenge. I'm cheering for Cal in Arkansas.
Shannon The Dude
Man.
Matt Jones
I can't cheer for Louisville.
Shannon The Dude
I don't know. That's tough. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, in general, I would definitely cheer for Arkansas.
Matt Jones
Yeah. What's your argument to cheer for Louisville?
Shannon The Dude
I mean, I should cheer for Arkansas, but I don't know. I can't. I mean. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I'll cheer for Arkansas, but it's kind of begrudgingly because I. It is very important to me that Mark do better than Cal.
Matt Jones
Yes.
Shannon The Dude
You know, and we're gonna have to play Louisville a couple weeks after they do, and we have to go there. And I really don't like the idea that he might win down there and we might lose at Louisville, which is plausible this year because we're playing on their home court this year.
Matt Jones
Plausible.
Shannon The Dude
So, yeah, I mean, I guess I'll cheer for Arkansas, but I'll kind of be hoping that the game ends in a tie, which is very rare in college basketball. But. But, but. But maybe it will because, you know.
Matt Jones
Arkansas, we had, you know, a couple ties. We kind of like Big Z, but he's gone A do. But he. J. Wagner will still be DJs, like, the only.
Shannon The Dude
That's really the only one.
Matt Jones
And the assistant Coaches and Cal, you're cheering for Bruiser.
Shannon The Dude
You got a soft spot in your.
Matt Jones
Heart for Bruiser and Chin, and I do not. But I don't have any soft spot whatsoever for Louisville. Nowhere.
Shannon The Dude
Yeah, I guess I'll cheer for Arkansas, but I don't. I don't know that I want to. All right, Shannon, how did. Ryan said the second phone call would work. Did that work?
Ryan Lemond
No, he's still not ready.
Shannon The Dude
Ryan still not ready?
Ryan Lemond
No, no.
Matt Jones
Must be a. A long winded radio interview.
Ryan Lemond
He said the producer for the other show took him longer. You know, didn't tell him how long it was going to be. Maybe a lot about how long they were going to keep them. Now they're hanging on to him.
Shannon The Dude
He should hang. He should. He should hang up on him. All right, so you remember how we were talking about with Vince and Vincent, Mark, remember how we were talking about that? Hurt feelings can play.
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah.
Shannon The Dude
A role in things. Right. People are almost human. I thought about this yesterday. You know, Rand Paul is a senator from Kentucky.
Matt Jones
Yes.
Shannon The Dude
He's probably been one of the Donald Trump's biggest supporters over the years. They've, like, hung together through thick and thin. But did you know that there's a White House picnic that happens every year? Did you know there was a White House picnic? They have a picnic for the people, for the Congress. People can come and bring their families and it's a picnic on the White House lawn. They've been doing it for like 100 years. I guess that's nice, right?
Matt Jones
Very nice.
Shannon The Dude
It's bipartisan in theory. Everybody can come. Rand Paul, you may have seen, made a criticism of Trump earlier this week about having the parade and all this. Trump disinvited Rand Paul to the picnic, specifically disinvited Rand Paul and his family. He was planning on bringing his grandkids to play on the law. So Rand Paul yesterday did this interview and he goes, this is the pettiest thing I've ever heard. Making it to where my grandkids cannot come to the, to the White House. And I was thinking about myself over these years. Remember we talked about how he called Rand Paul ugly, said his hair was awful, you know, did all this stuff. The thing that got him was his grandkids don't get to go to the picnic. And I thought about it and I was like, you know what, Ryan? That seems ridiculous. But it also shows how at the end of the day, and it's still just people. It's still. Because, like, I was thinking about you, you'd get Madder about somebody not letting your grandkids come to a picnic than you would. Anything else.
Matt Jones
Make fun of my hair. Call me.
Shannon The Dude
Who would do that?
Matt Jones
My beautiful, flowing hair. I've got. Don't mess with my grandkids. That's. Hands off. You're not going to hurt my grandkids. I'm Grandpa, man. Don't want to hurt my grandkids.
Shannon The Dude
But you don't have any grandkids.
Matt Jones
Not yet.
Shannon The Dude
Okay, but if you did. If I did, you'd be very offended if they didn't get to go to the.
Matt Jones
I understand Rand Paul's frustration and hurt.
Shannon The Dude
Okay. All right. So we did have a couple people who had questions. So where. Since we're waiting on. Come on up here. You can get on that microphone right there. All right, here we go. Just put it right there. Put that headset on and just give me. First of all, when you put it on. There you go. Put it over your head. Give me your name. Put the microphone down there. There you go. Go ahead. Say it again. Your name was what?
Janet
Janet.
Shannon The Dude
Janet. Where are you from, Janet?
Janet
I live here.
Shannon The Dude
You live here? Right here.
Janet
Well, down the road.
Shannon The Dude
I didn't mean in their house. That would be kind of strange. Okay, but. But you live in the community. All right, so what. What is your question, Jen?
Janet
So there is. I'm excited that Otega Away is coming back.
Shannon The Dude
Yes.
Janet
And there is an OA chant.
Shannon The Dude
There is.
Janet
I don't know exactly what it is.
Shannon The Dude
Would you like to practice it?
Janet
No, I would not. But I would. I would like to tell you what I think it should be. Okay, Gloria Estefan. The rhythm's gonna get you.
Shannon The Dude
Huh?
Janet
That OA Away chant, that should be the chant.
Shannon The Dude
Well, what is that one?
Janet
It's. I'm not gonna sing it.
Shannon The Dude
Well, no, no, you can't suggest a chant, Janet. Don't you agree, Ryan? She can't suggest a chant and not do it.
Matt Jones
How can we, you know, sample it if we don't understand?
Shannon The Dude
Yeah, you gotta teach me the chant. I don't know it.
Janet
All right.
Shannon The Dude
Okay, here we go.
Janet
You cannot. You gotta promise to not make of fun. Fun of me, though.
Shannon The Dude
Have I ever made fun of anyone? All right.
Janet
Facebook yesterday.
Shannon The Dude
Okay. I don't remember who it was, but they probably deserved it. All right, go ahead.
Janet
Okay, so it's the Gloria Estefan song. The rhythm's gonna get you. And they say, away, away, away. That should be.
Shannon The Dude
Wait a minute. Hang on, you guys. Don't get shy now. Come on. Heritage Place. Here we go. Do it again.
Janet
Away Away, away. Oh, way.
Shannon The Dude
Look at that. Well done.
Matt Jones
Wow.
Shannon The Dude
Thank you very much for that. What do you think? Is that better than mine? Away, away, away, away, away. Or is it just going to be like an. An age thing where the younger ones are doing that and the older folks are doing. Gloria, step up.
Matt Jones
We tried.
Shannon The Dude
No, wait a minute. That is not a criticism. That is not a criticism. The student section was doing the other. That is not a criticism. You got up and sang. I'm on your side, but I'm just saying. Which one would you prefer?
Matt Jones
We tried all year to get yours going and finally caught on with like two games.
Shannon The Dude
Finally, at the very end, it caught on.
Matt Jones
So I. I'd like to keep.
Shannon The Dude
I'll tell you what. I'll leave it up to Mario. Which one should you do? Which one do you want to go? I will put you on the spot here. I'm gonna do it. I like the new way. You like the new way? Okay.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Shannon The Dude
Look at him. Look at him playing to the crowd, Shannon. He's like.
Matt Jones
He's.
Shannon The Dude
Yeah, he's like a wrestler. He can't. He can't. He can't do it. He has to. He loses his thing. All right, who was our other one? We said, we have one more. No, he's not gonna do it. All right, well, they got. They get nervous. That's all right. You know what? It happens sometimes. Let's do cornbread hemp. Cornbreadhem.com they have gummies, they have seltzers. This group. You guys be careful here. If we start. If we start passing out the cornbread hemp seltzers, I don't know what's gonna happen.
Matt Jones
They've been drinking beer since.
Shannon The Dude
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Matt Jones
Nice.
Shannon The Dude
And my show, it's on WHAS tonight at 6 o' clock, the Matt Jones Show, 8:40am or you can get it on podcast tonight. Last night, I sort of talked about some of the events going on in America right now. And I had Billy on Shannon to listen to Billy's opinions about something. It's very. It was very interesting. Billy did a good job. I'm gonna give him credit.
Ryan Lemond
Billy solving the world's problems. I gotta hear that. Yeah.
Shannon The Dude
No. So we'll talk some stuff that I don't feel comfortable talking about on this show because it makes people mad, but we do that. It's at 6 o' clock, 8:40 WHAS or on the Matt Jones show podcast feed. We'll take a break hopefully, unless Ryan Lodd have Dan Skerka when we return. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.
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Shannon The Dude
Welcome back. It is the final segment here. Laura.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Shannon The Dude
Yes. Thank you very much. We real quick are the Lexington SC fans. Be sure to purchase tickets@LexSporting.com for the Lexington SC Men's June Home Matches. Saturday presented by Central Bank New Mexico. United LSC is celebrating National Bourbon Day. Free bourbon samplings at the game. Oh my goodness.
Matt Jones
Wow.
Shannon The Dude
That is. And then Friday June 20th, it's against Colorado Springs Switchbacks at 7 o' clock next two weekends they're there. They're gonna have the mini horses there for you to visit. Bring your kids. Lex sporting.com A good thing to do this weekend. And then the camps. Lex sporting.com camps Damn. Skirka, coach of Murray State joins us. Dan last. Yeah. First give him a big round of applause, everybody. Nice Going to the College World Series, Dan. We had you on last week. We just called you up and got you. Now you got interviews so much that we have to. You know, we had. You were going to be last segment. Now you're. This one. This has got to be no crazy ride for you, right?
Caller
Unbelievable. I mean, you can't describe it. Just. It doesn't feel real. We're. We're. We're enjoying it. We're soaking it all in and. But we are excited.
Shannon The Dude
So. Yeah, I mean, that's got to be. Well, first of all, I got to go back to Monday because I enjoyed that so much watching you guys. I've watched more Murray State baseball than I've watched any baseball team except the Reds in about five years. It's five to four. You get the interference call. There's a dog pile in the center of the thing, and then they say to you, hey, everybody, get up. Tuck your shirt in. You got to do it again. Tell me what that's like for you as a manager.
Caller
Oh, man. Well, you know, the play. I'm an infield coach. I love it. I instruct it. I, you know, go around the country, you know, presenting and. And I'm watching the play. My second baseman did it, right? I mean, he cleared the sliding zone, you know, had a good feed from the shortstop, made the play. I saw the interference. I did not think in real time. I'm like, he ain't calling that. You know, I just thought in that moment, you know, it's like pass interference at the end of the game, right? You just, you know, sometimes they call it. Usually they don't call it, or, you know, that foul they kind of play on, right? They tuck the whistle at the end of the game. Did not think it was gonna get called. And then, sure enough, he did call it. I was like, that's the right call. And then, you know, we went crazy. There's. There's people everywhere, you know, hugging, celebrating. There's hats and gloves and sunglasses flying around. And. And then, yeah, the umpire finally got our attention and said they were challenging. And, yeah, I had to tell my guys to get off the field. And the looks on their faces were just like, you gotta be kidding me. Just to have to do that. It's amazing. You know, it makes the story that much better. But it was wild. I mean, our hearts, you know, during that review was just. It was. It was crazy. And then, you know, for our guys to go out and do that after that, you know, to go back out, get that last out was just. It's amazing. I'm so proud of it.
Shannon The Dude
Well, it was very exciting, and this is one of the great underdog stories of all time. But I'm sure you tell your team you're not an underdog, right? Yes, you're going to Omaha, but you deserve to be there as much as anybody else. And they also kind of put you in the hard bracket as well down there. But you got. I'm sure that's what you're telling your guys, right?
Caller
Yeah, I mean, 100% we've put in the work. These guys, I mean, from day one, you know, just. Just assembling the roster with 28 newcomers this year. And in the fall, you know, we weren't very good in the fall, but. But they put in the work, you know, weight room, classroom, and then obviously on the field. These guys love the game, and they've prepared for these moments, and that's. That's what we told them, you know, to try to. Try to ignore the distractions, because there's a lot of dist right now, but to play ball, to have fun and compete the way they always have. And they're plenty. Plenty good enough. And I think to go to Ole Miss, you know, two weeks ago, that gave them the confidence. And then obviously, Duke was a really good team, a prestigious team, bunch of really good players, good coaches, but they were confident that they could not just play with them, but we could win that thing and get here to Omaha.
Shannon The Dude
Well, you did. You did it for those of us who still hate Lightner, so thank you very much for. For doing that. All right, so now you get to Omaha, I. I assume have you. You've been to Omaha for the College World Series, I'm sure. Have you been there? It said to. Just to the environment and all that.
Caller
Oh, to be honest with you, I wanted to earn my first trip. I. I have never been out here. Yeah, I. I just, you know, some buddies have come out here, and now that, you know, my son's nine people. Oh, you got to take your kid out there. It's once in a while. And I just said, man, I always just want to earn that first one. And. And when we pulled up yesterday to. To see the stadium and to see our banner hanging on the stadium, I mean, guys, I mean, just unbelievable.
Shannon The Dude
So I've been there. I went a few years ago when. When I didn't care who the teams were, and I kind of just did it because people are like, oh, you ought to go. And. And I thought, well, whatever. And I Went. And I had the most fun. I mean, it was the just people everywhere. The city embraces it. I mean, I know you're going there to win, but you do have to take a minute, right, and go, this is amazing that I'm a part of this.
Caller
Yeah, we got here yesterday and it hasn't filled in yet with all the fans and media and everything yet. But I think the biggest thing, you know, with, with the stars kind of aligned on Monday for our game to be the 7 o' clock primetime game. You know, a couple series had to finish. They did, you know, we played at noon, basically, and one o' clock Saturday and Sunday. And we were sitting around Sunday night waiting to find out what time we were going to play. And then when we got seven o' clock game, you know, like yourself, there's a lot of people all over the country got a chance to watch that game and see our story. And, you know, I was just walking around the block last night with my wife, just wearing a Murray State shirt like I always do. But everybody was kind of, you know, congratulating and pointing and took a couple pictures and it's like, holy cow, this, this, this is real. We're, we're, we're going to have a lot of fun. So.
Shannon The Dude
Oh, you're going to be the local favorite. I mean, you are. They always. When Stony Brook went a few years ago, that was the year I went, was when Stony Brook, and there was no doubt the city was for Stony Brook. You're going to have that. I mean, you've been playing these road games. I think sometimes, especially when you play ucla, I think you're going to feel like the home team in there, Coach.
Caller
Well, that will be, it will be different because.
Shannon The Dude
It might be different. Yeah, the LSU in Arkansas might be different. All right, so I just got a minute or two. I got to ask you a couple questions. Do you mow the grass at the stadium? I saw that going around. Do you mow the grass?
Caller
I do not. I do not. Don't know where that started.
Shannon The Dude
I told you, Shannon. I knew he didn't. I knew he didn't mow the grass.
Caller
I'd like to some days to get away from everything else. I would love to, but no, they don't let me do that.
Shannon The Dude
So tell me, last thing here. Your kids, all right, who I'm sure everybody believes, but I'm sure deep in their hearts, I don't know if they thought this would happen. Certainly when the season started, maybe even when the playoffs started. What's it like, for them right now, before this big time, man, you can't wipe the.
Caller
Off their faces. You know, Nike and Evo Shield came and spoiled them this morning with their, with their Omaha gear. And just to earn all that stuff, you know, it wasn't just handed to us, you know, in August when they showed up on campus. Like, they've earned. They've earned all this gear and all these videos and all the attention and interviews and podcasts and getting on these graphics with some of these other programs, you know, they've earned. And I think that just. I just, I think they realize that it's a great group of guys. They really are. If you're looking for somebody to root for, they really, really are a great group. So it just, it means the world to them. I mean, it really does. It's. It's. It's awesome.
Shannon The Dude
Well, you should tell Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Paul Skeens, Will Clark, and now the Murray State Racers there in Omaha. Good luck this weekend, Coach. We'll be pulling for you.
Caller
Thank you very much. Appreciate y' all having me on.
Shannon The Dude
There you go. How about that? How awesome is that? Thank you. Thank you to Coach Skirka. And hey, thank you all very much for having us here. What first time we've done this and what everybody else got a hard standard to meet to for home hosting. Thank you all. We very much appreciate it. Tomorrow we will be at the US Army 250th annual 250th anniversary, Sir Barton Way. What's the number?
Matt Jones
Yes.
Shannon The Dude
All right. Yes, we'll have it online. You can find it. We'll see you later. It's been Kentucky Sports Radio.
Podcast Summary: KSR - Hour 2 (June 12, 2025)
Hosted by Matt Jones and the KSR crew from iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM), this episode of Kentucky Sports Radio, aired on June 12, 2025, delves into a variety of engaging topics ranging from local community discussions to significant developments in college sports.
The episode kicks off with an insightful discussion about Heritage Place, clarifying misconceptions about it being a retirement community. Shannon The Dude shares, “[Heritage Place] is just a community of wonderful folks” (02:16). The hosts emphasize the vibrant and active nature of the community, dispelling any notions of it being solely for retirees.
A heartfelt segment honors Drew Franklin on his 40th birthday. Shannon reminisces about Drew’s longstanding role at KSR, saying, “He's been with KSR since he was working at Tony Roma's” (04:07). The duo reflect on Drew's dedication, especially highlighting his relentless work ethic during their early days covering numerous games and events.
A substantial portion of the discussion revolves around the newly instituted college basketball rules aimed at reducing game delays caused by excessive challenges and replays. Shannon explains the changes: “Each coach gets one challenge. In the last two minutes of the game, the ref can look at goaltending on his own” (07:00). Both Matt and Shannon express approval, noting that these adjustments are expected to streamline the game and maintain its pace. Shannon adds, “This will make the college game go faster” (11:24), highlighting the potential positive impact on game dynamics.
The conversation shifts to the contentious topic of funding distribution between UK’s football and basketball programs. Caller Jerry voices his frustration, stating, “Football fans in Kentucky have been getting their swift kick” (14:11). Shannon and Matt discuss the implications of reallocating funds to bolster the basketball program, considering the competitive landscape of the SEC and the challenges faced by UK football. Shannon posits, “Do we just take the little hit on football to ensure we can compete for a title in basketball?” (16:02), encapsulating the dilemma of resource allocation.
An intriguing segment explores the intersection of politics and personal relationships, focusing on Senator Rand Paul’s recent disinvitation from the White House picnic. Shannon narrates Rand’s frustration: “...he says, this is the pettiest thing I've ever heard” (30:00). The hosts reflect on past tensions and the human aspect behind political decisions, humorously suggesting, “Don't want to hurt my grandkids” (31:46), emphasizing the personal stakes involved.
A highlight of the episode features an interview with Dan Skirka, the coach of Murray State, who shares the team’s exhilarating experience advancing to the College World Series. Dan recounts a pivotal moment: “...there was a dog pile in the center of the thing, and then they say to you, hey, everybody, get up. Tuck your shirt in” (39:00). Shannon commends the team’s underdog spirit, stating, “These guys love the game... they really are a great group” (44:13). The conversation underscores the significance of teamwork, perseverance, and community support in achieving such milestones.
Interactivity with listeners is evident as Janet from Heritage Place suggests a new chant inspired by Gloria Estefan's "Rhythm's Gonna Get You." The hosts embrace the idea, demonstrating live how the chant could be performed: “Away Away, away” (33:37). This segment showcases the vibrant community involvement and the hosts' willingness to engage creatively with their audience.
Towards the end of the episode, Shannon promotes upcoming Lexington SC Men’s Home Matches, highlighting special events like National Bourbon Day with free bourbon samplings (37:20). Additionally, sponsorship mentions include Cornbread Hemp, which offers products such as gummies and seltzers, adding a local flavor to the show's promotions.
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Conclusion: This episode of Kentucky Sports Radio offers a rich blend of community insights, celebratory moments, in-depth sports analysis, and engaging listener interactions. From clarifying community initiatives and celebrating personal milestones to dissecting significant changes in college basketball rules and discussing the strategic funding of sports programs, Matt Jones and Shannon The Dude provide listeners with informative and entertaining content. The episode underscores the vibrant sports culture in Kentucky, the challenges and triumphs of local teams, and the deep-rooted community spirit that binds the listeners together.