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So yes, I'm getting new glasses. Billy is considering getting major heart surgery over there. And so we, we're ready to go. We ate some food there at the break and 859-31780 88 if you want to make an appointment, just make sure to remember KSR people sometimes write me Drew and say what is the code for this? What is the code for this? The code is almost always ksr. Just assume if you don't know the code. Yeah, it's ksr. Sometimes for like the podcast it might be Matt Jones or something but just in general Drew assume it's it's ksr.
Drew Franklin
Punch that in there. If he kicks it back then tweet us and ask. But it's 99% of the time.
Billy Rutledge
KSR 99% of the time. There's a couple open lines. A little slow on the phone today. Again when I talk sports.
Evan
Yeah, nobody they want to talk about random stuff.
Billy Rutledge
They do. And that's just. And I like that. I prefer it. Well let me talk about one thing that random that I feel bad about myself. That I feel okay. Okay. So did you watch, did anybody watch the US Open? I probably did.
Drew Franklin
Caught up with it. It's hard to.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah, I didn't really watch a lot match by match, but a guy, A guy named J.J. spawn won the U.S. open golf tournament. I enjoyed. I didn't really enjoy the tournament, but I enjoyed the last few holes because everybody just got angry. It just seemed like everybody was furious that it wasn't working out. But, you know, there's a lot going on in the world right now that's really serious. Right? You have. You got the deportation stuff. You got the Israel, Palestine. You now maybe have Israel, Iran. We have, like, there are some reports that we have military kind of getting on the side. Seen the president tweets out, like, Tehran, everyone evacuate. You know, there's 9 million people there. That's more than New York City. I mean, they're not just sudden get out. So there's a lot of. My point is there's a lot of serious stuff going on, and I try to educate myself on things, but I think there's a trait that we all have, which is, as much as we know, we should care about those things and educate ourselves. I can't help but then get caught in the social media world on stuff that is stupid.
Evan
Yep.
Billy Rutledge
So knowing this is going on and knowing that, like, maybe I should know if we're on the brink of World War 3, then all of a sudden, I get on TikTok and everyone is talking about whether JJ Spawn and his wife don't like each other. Okay, did you see any of them?
Evan
No, I didn't see any of that.
Billy Rutledge
Okay, now you would ask why. Why would they say that?
Evan
Huh?
Billy Rutledge
I didn't even know. First of all, until five days ago, I didn't know who JJ Spawn was. Let's start.
Evan
I didn't either.
Billy Rutledge
Never had heard his name until five days ago. Why would it matter? Well, did you see when he won, there were multiple times that he never spoke to or embraced his wife? Did you see that, Drew? You see?
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
Shaking your head.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
He. You know how you. When you walk off, you hug your kids, you hug your wife, etc. And he came over, he hugged his kids, didn't hug his wife. And then later, he thanked his kids, didn't thank these. Thank his wife. And then. So this is at least in the algorithm of Tick tock. I'm on. What is wrong with JJ Spawn and his wife? And. And this conversation, Drew, isn't to talk about JJ Spawn and his wife. I don't know or care. But why did I read all that? Why did. When I see all that, I watch all the Videos. Try to see whether or not JJ Spawn and his wife are fighting. What is it that makes me. And I guarantee you all it's in the videos. You would have looked at it to see do they get along or not. Why would I care when five days ago, I didn't even know who he was?
Drew Franklin
I don't know. We all have something going on in our brains. About once a night. I'm on my, like, ninth chapter of going down some wormhole that started on Twitter, moved to Reddit, to TikTok, and I just think, why am I doing this? I could be doing anything else in my life right now, but I'm on this page of this person I've never heard of, and I'm invested in it. And they've got, they just, they hook us.
Billy Rutledge
I think about my grandparents when they were my age. They came home, they were not on Tick Tock.
Evan
No. They're probably tired from working all day.
Billy Rutledge
What did they do?
Evan
Read a book and go to sleep?
Billy Rutledge
I don't know if they did. Like, did people just sit and stare at each other and look at each other?
Drew Franklin
They definitely didn't talk about JJ Spawn and his wife.
Billy Rutledge
You know, when my. I remember my grandfather telling me that in the 50s, they just turned the TV off at 11 o' clock.
Evan
Yep.
Billy Rutledge
And I don't mean in their house. Yeah, the world turned the TV off.
Evan
It played national anthem.
Billy Rutledge
There was no television after 11 o' clock. And then they started adding the news at 11:11. And then Johnny Carson and Woody, or not Woody Allen, Paul Allen, whatever. Started at 11:30.
Evan
But I mean, they did that in the 80s. Even I can remember that as a kid. Like, where the station would come back on at like, five in the morning.
Billy Rutledge
They just turned it off and they said, okay, America, go to bed. You don't need to be entertained anymore.
Evan
Right.
Go to bed, Cheryl.
Billy Rutledge
Go to bed. And I guess part of me wonders, drew, should we do that? Because when I'm finding myself looking at JJ Spawn and his wife to see whether they hugged, I decided I, I, I gotta, I gotta not be doing this.
Drew Franklin
I love that you'd never heard of him. I think you tweeted you didn't like to enjoy the US Open.
Billy Rutledge
I did not.
Drew Franklin
You committed a lot of your evening to figure out if he likes his wife.
Billy Rutledge
And I was studying the video going, well, maybe they don't.
Evan
Like, you get sucked into that algorithm, and all of a sudden it makes you care about things you didn't even have an opinion about.
Billy Rutledge
I mean, I was reading Stories to see if in the press conference he mentioned. Because I will say, as I watched him make the final putt, she didn't seem all that happy.
Evan
That was a hell of a putt.
Drew Franklin
I wondered after he won, they were like, he was up at 3am Getting stuff for his daughters, and I was like, that's great. But maybe that night mom could have done that, let jj.
Billy Rutledge
There are people saying fighting there. They're not going to say he. She made him go to cvs.
Drew Franklin
Of all the nights for him to go to CVS at 3M, I feel like maybe she could have run that errand.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah. When you were a kid, what did your parents do at night?
Evan
Watch tv.
Billy Rutledge
Like, what did they watch?
Evan
Mash. Three's Company.
Billy Rutledge
Your parents watch threes?
Drew Franklin
That's a little risky.
Evan
What's Archie Bunker? What was that show? All in the Family. All in the Family. Good times. Waltons. Walt was big.
Billy Rutledge
So did they ever. Did they ever do things with the television off?
Evan
We would play games. Board games.
Billy Rutledge
What games?
Evan
Monopoly, checkers, chess.
Billy Rutledge
You did not play chess.
Evan
Oh, I did. I was a part of the chess club in Pike Central Middle School.
Billy Rutledge
You're telling me you really? Yeah. Well, then why do you.
Evan
I've not played chess, though, in 50 years. But I used to play chess.
Billy Rutledge
You and your mom and dad would sit at home and play chess?
Evan
Yeah, we played games, but usually there's some sports thing going on. We're out in the backyard playing catch or shooting baskets with my dad or something like that.
Billy Rutledge
Well, I just felt bad about myself that I cared at all about it. And I needed to confess to the general public how disappointed I was in my.
Evan
There is something in our curiosity that we interfacuate about people's relationship drama. I mean, that's why shows like the Bachelor are popular. It's that relationship drama.
Bill Belichick. That's why everybody cares about Bill Belichick.
You're right.
Billy Rutledge
We haven't heard anything about them in a while.
Evan
Yeah, okay.
Billy Rutledge
You know, I do too let those kids. They can get through it, I hope. Yesterday on. On. On Twitter, a random account posted the. The football play where Against Florida, where Trevin Wallace. Well, somebody else blocked the kick Trevor Wallace caught it ran down the field and the account said something like, this is the most excited I've ever been about UK football. So I was starting. I was trying to think of what are the moments, not the biggest wins, but what are the moments where I went the craziest at a UK football game or watching a UK football Game in my top five. I decided, when I thought about it was at number five when Austin McGinnis made the kick against Mississippi State. It was big, which guaranteed us to go to a bowl game for the first time in many years. Probably saved Mark Stoops Job.
Evan
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
Would you agree?
Evan
Oh, yeah.
Billy Rutledge
Probably saved Job. And so that was my number five. Number four for me was when Lamar fumbled.
Evan
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
When Louisville was basically going. Looking like they were going to win. He fumbles, it becomes clear we can win the game in just one of the most massive upsets of all time. Number three for me was that Trevor Wallace play that the guy that the guys did where he was able to run, block the kick, run it back. That's one of the loudest times Kroger Fields ever had.
Drew Franklin
All right. Definitely.
Billy Rutledge
Because it was just such a surprise that he was gonna. That he would.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Night game being Florida, such a big moment.
Billy Rutledge
And then for me, the top two are both in the same season.
Evan
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
Number two is lsu. The moment where we get the stop.
Evan
Braxton Kelly get the stop on fourth.
Billy Rutledge
And one or whatever to win. Because LSU was number one. But number one for me, and I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but number one for me is Stevie Gallup.
Evan
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
It was the joy of having. Because Louisville had kind of been dominating us for a few years and we're favorites in that game. And then he gets open, breaks away, scores. The elation in that stadium was unlike anything else. I got tackled. I still have a scar. After the game, one of my friends looks looked at me and just said, Stevie got loose. And that's kind of become because of my drunk friend what everyone calls that game. Are there any. You would order change or you would.
Evan
I would probably put Couch to East to beat Alabama. And the goalposts came down that night.
Billy Rutledge
I was not there that night. So that.
Evan
And the only other one I thought of when you. I don't know if it deserves me. The top five. When Bud Dupree beat South Carolina and he threw the ball up in the stands after he scored the touchdown.
Billy Rutledge
That would be an honorable mention for me. That was. That was a great first beat. Steve Spurrier, first time we beat that. That is certainly if it's. That would contend for me with number five, that Austin McGinnis kid.
Drew Franklin
Drew.
Billy Rutledge
Do you have one?
Drew Franklin
I have some that aren't as high up, but it's where I was because a lot of these in the stoops there. I'm in the press box on my computer and I can't Exactly. Lose my. But before I was nerding it out with KSR in the press box, when Randall Cobb cut to touchdown in South Carolina, I was at huge ass burgers and people just started throwing full pictures of beer in the air. You couldn't walk in there, it was so slippery. It was just pandemonium. We took it out into the streets up there after that heart line throw to him, I guess. Was that the spare year? Was that.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah, I don't know. But no.
Drew Franklin
Regardless, very unexpected win.
Billy Rutledge
There was also a Randall Cobb one against Arkansas, I think where he caught a touchdown there. But go ahead, mother.
Drew Franklin
Is we were at my house just across the street from Kroger Field when Lindley got the interception to seal the Georgia game. And we ran across Nicholsville Road into the stadium.
Billy Rutledge
What is that? Oh, six.
Drew Franklin
Maybe that'd be about right.
Billy Rutledge
Oh six.
Drew Franklin
We ran into the stadium without even having a ticket and we're the first at the goal post. So those are like maybe my two craziest reactions. Even those are. Those aren't the biggest plays.
Billy Rutledge
I like those. I think you could also throw in in terms of surprise when Lynn Bowden threw the touchdown against Virginia Tech in the bowl game. I know it was a bowl game, but you know, we'd run, run, run, run. And then they throw a touchdown on that last play to kind of surprise.
Drew Franklin
Well, also in the ball game at KS Bar, when Wandell juked Iowa on that game winning drive to set up Chris Rodriguez with the game winner.
Billy Rutledge
That was awesome. And then when we beat Penn State, the Lynn Bowden kickoff return, I think was another really, really good one.
Evan
When he convinced the coach, let me, let, let me return. He wasn't supposed to be out there. He convinced them, put me out there. I'll run it back.
Billy Rutledge
I think if it had been at home in Lexington, the CJ Conrad catch against Missouri would be great. It's just their crowd wasn't cheering because they had. Because we had won.
Evan
I'm trying to think, you know the older years. I know they.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah. So that was one I wanted to ask you, Ryan. Older years because mine, none of them are older than.07. You mentioned couch East. Are there ones from before that or did we just all. Did we just lose every game or. It wasn't until. So no one knew they beat LSU.
Evan
Down in Death Valley on a last second field goal by Seth Hansen. One year. I remember that one because I jumped up and fell and sprained my ankle when I came back down.
Drew Franklin
Injuries.
Evan
I know we've mentioned Dante a Lot. But his game where he got the interception and the fumble recovery against Louisville, beat Louisville when they were like oh and nine, and then that finally made him one.
Billy Rutledge
What was the game? Wasn't there a game where Myron Prior ran back something against Louisville, at Louisville.
Evan
Rumbling, stumbling, bumbling, like 70 yards. Wasn't it?
Drew Franklin
Yeah. One of the biggest defensive linemen we've had. I think he's from Louisville. Took it to the house. You can go. Ventrell Jenkins in the bowl game.
Billy Rutledge
That, that, by the way, that, that one. That was ridiculous.
Evan
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
And then Jimmy Whalen. Did we win that game where he caught the. Or. No, we lost that game where Jimmy Whalen caught it against Syracuse in the Music City bowl or something.
Evan
Yeah, I don't know if we won that one, but you're right, we lost.
Billy Rutledge
But I think we lost. But that was. So anyway, if anybody has other ones.
Evan
Those are some good ones, though. Those really good ones. Been on memory lane like that.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah, I. I was surprised though, how many. How there were no old ones. Yeah, like none.
Evan
Well, there was an era. They weren't very good.
Billy Rutledge
And then there was an era where we lost a lot of close games. I mean, remember pre. It used to be. How we gonna find a way to blow this?
Evan
There's the one play, I guess, where Derek Ramsey's running against Penn State and they ripped his jersey off. Like half his jersey.
Billy Rutledge
Ripped his jersey.
Evan
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
That one's pretty famous. I've seen that.
Billy Rutledge
That's in a loss also. It's a loss, but Billy Jack Haskins.
Evan
Oh, in Tennessee.
Billy Rutledge
Against Tennessee. We lost the game, but that's one of the great runs in Kentucky history.
Evan
Couldn't even raise his shoulder. He's celebrating after he crossed the goal with one arm.
Billy Rutledge
With one arm.
Drew Franklin
That's what was the. The Marty Moore fumble. What bowl was that?
Evan
The peach.
Billy Rutledge
Clemson in 93.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, that was a tough one.
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Billy Rutledge
Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here at the Glenn Eye Center, Lexington's newest full Service Eye Center. 859-317-8088 off leave town Road. Good chance some of you maybe you know, never been to an eye doctor or you don't want to go to one of those big like chain stores, you get personalized service. This says here their staff includes local folks who know your name. Fair enough. They know your neighborhood. Fair enough. And they know your grandma Stacy. How do you know my grandma? You better be careful. So I found out that at Morgan Wallen's bar in Nashville, they have a picture of his grandma Boots.
Evan
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
And if I didn't go to his bar because the line was too long, but I wish I had known, I would love to have seen the picture of Boots in the bar. Although knowing Boots should have been very upset. She did not like alcohol, Drew. And so she would not have liked that her picture was in a liquor establishment.
Evan
They serve water in there too, I'm sure.
Billy Rutledge
I know. But she did not like, she would say she didn't like the vodka.
Drew Franklin
Hopefully it's tastefully done. And he put her far away from.
Billy Rutledge
The actual put her in the sober part of the bar because I, I mean he knows her better than I do. But I remember her not being a big fan of the Vodki in the gym.
Evan
Was she the fan of Conway Twitty or was that.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah, okay, I remember. So maybe they could put him next to her. She should. He should put a picture of her next to him. That would make her very happy in the afterlife to be that close to Conway. He makes her blood, boy. Who's up next? Philip is up next. Philip, Go ahead, Philip. Hey.
Caller
Yeah, I'm a Louisville fan, but I listen to your show anyway.
Billy Rutledge
I like sports, but my questions for.
Caller
Matt and and all the crew this basketball season coming up. Would you rather win 100% of your bats but Kentucky lose 100% of their basketball game or would you rather Kentucky win 100% of that basketball game? You lose 100%.
Billy Rutledge
Oh, I easily picked the Kentucky basketball games. Money is temporary. But Kentucky. Just think about what we just did, going through all those memories. Ultimately, life is nothing but a set of memories. And money comes, money goes. But memories are what the summation of your life is. Not to get all philosophical. So, yes, I would want the victories because memories. And it's not just that. Drew, you were telling a story about where you were like in those ones. I can remember where I was standing when Trevin Wallace ran it back. Right. I remember who I was with against Louisville. I remember that I was not at the LSU Stadium for personal reasons in 07. I mean, I can remember all that. And that's part of what makes it so good so easily. Pick the wins over the bet.
Drew Franklin
I know the table I was sitting at at Hugh Jaspers and who was sitting in what seat from that night. There are plenty of months where I lose 100% of my bets. I don't even have to volunteer to do that. I can lose bets without having this exercise. So I'm definitely going uk.
Evan
Talk about the memories, though. I mean, what a memory it would be if you won all your bets. I'd say I remember where I was when I placed that bet. Won all that money.
Billy Rutledge
Money is not everything.
Evan
It's the only thing. I just wouldn't bet. I just wouldn't bet.
Billy Rutledge
Example of knowing place of memories. Ryan, you just pick a game, an NCAA tournament game from the Cal Perior and I will tell you what I was doing during that game. I bet. I bet.
Drew Franklin
I know what random parking lot was mad in.
Evan
Let's try to pick with tough one. How about Kentucky and Indiana up in Iowa.
Billy Rutledge
Kentucky and Indiana. We were in Des Moines. Yeah, I was nervous about the game. I'd left the arena. I had walked around the streets of Des Moines And I watched very little of the game, but I would peek my head into a coffee shop where I had made them change the channel to Kentucky, Indiana. And I stood there at the end and watched them watch them lose. That's a hard one, though. That's a hard.
Evan
This isn't that long ago. Kentucky, Wichita State.
Billy Rutledge
Kentucky Wichita State. I've told this before. I was in the. In. What was that? St. Louis.
Evan
Yes.
Billy Rutledge
In the convention center. No, excuse me. In a hotel. And I'd gone in the basement to an exercise room, and I walked on a treadmill and watched the game while walking on a treadmill in a hotel that I was not staying.
Evan
I do remember you being in an exercise room of some sort for that game.
Billy Rutledge
All right, give me another one. I like this game because I'm good. I can remember.
Evan
How about Kentucky, Wisconsin, the Elite Eight game.
Billy Rutledge
Okay, Kentucky, Wisconsin, the Elite Eight game. Let's see. That's 2014. Wasn't that in Indianapolis? Yes, that was in Indianapolis. That was the year in 2014 that I set. This is bad. I got nervous. I got kicked out of the hotel lobby that I was watching it in, because I wasn't. I got. I got my car and I listened to the game on Westwood One, driving around the city.
Evan
Indianapolis.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah.
Evan
All right.
Billy Rutledge
So I didn't actually listen to Aaron Harrison make the shot. And I. I can even picture where I was on the interstate in Indianapolis when that shot went in Kentucky.
Evan
Marquette, 2003.
Billy Rutledge
All right, so you're going back a little bit there. That's Dwayne Wade that I was at Duke Law School. I actually sat through all of that game in my apartment or in my house with Joe Davies. And he taunted me as we lost the gate, lost the game because he was a Duke fan, and he taunted me the entire time. So I do like that you have those memories and that you. Unfortunately, mine are often being scared to be in the arena.
Evan
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
But nevertheless, it's.
Drew Franklin
Oh, yeah. Most of mine are sitting at a computer in the Calipari era, but I still remember exact seats, what was served at the buffet. Even though a few weeks ago I couldn't remember who we played this past year. Caught me on a bad morning.
Billy Rutledge
You do.
Drew Franklin
You can remember everything about the day and people you talk to.
Billy Rutledge
Even for a big regular season game. A big regular season game. I can remember where I was during that game. Like, I still remember watching Jody meeks go for 54. And the woman that I was dating at the time going, will you please pipe down? And me Saying, this isn't good to work. He just broke the record. You and I can't date anymore if I can't be excited.
Evan
He broke the record. You broke up with her?
Billy Rutledge
I did. We never went out again. She was like, I have a exam. Or I don't know if it was an exam, but she was like, I have something. And I was like, I'm sorry.
Evan
Jody Meek's about to break the record.
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That's right.
He's went for Jody, 54 points.
Billy Rutledge
We'll be right back. First of all, Wisconsin. That was in Dallas, not Indianapolis. I initially thought Dallas. I talked myself out of it. I was still on the highway, though, and I remember the spot on the highway. I listened to us lose to UConn in the next game in the finals, sitting in the parking lot because I wanted to come in and celebrate the national championship if we won and then we lost. Yeah.
Evan
Remember, you and Mike Pratt both said the same thing, that the Kentucky, especially Julius Rand, looks scared to death. Before that Connecticut game, there've been only.
Billy Rutledge
Two games that I can remember where I remember either me seeing or people telling me UK looks scared. And we lost them both. Yukon and St Peter's St Peter's makes no sense.
Evan
What?
No, it doesn't.
Billy Rutledge
It really doesn't. But. But. But we ended up. We ended up losing. One person writes. Matt, you always say about how you're superstitious during these games. You don't believe in aliens. You don't believe in conspiracy theories. I don't understand why you are so superstitious about games. Because it's different.
Evan
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
My. Me standing in the same place during the game. It works.
Evan
It has an effect on the game. Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
It is very important. This stuff isn't. Is it? You know, the moon? There was a moon walk.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, well, there was a moonwalk, too, but.
Billy Rutledge
But me not being in the same spot on the floor will change the game.
Drew Franklin
I have that on NFL Sundays. Big third down stops. I get in the stance in front of the tv. I don't care if I'm laying on the couch under a blanket, half asleep, third, third and short. I got to get up and get in position to get this stop. And it works about 30% of the time.
Evan
What's your rate, though, of success? Like getting in the shower versus winds?
Billy Rutledge
100.
Evan
100.
Billy Rutledge
What I'm doing is right. Part of what I have to do is figure out what it is. What is right, what is going to change. Why.
Evan
Why wouldn't the shower work after every game or, you know, during every game? Like, why would that change?
Billy Rutledge
Sure.
Evan
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
I mean, I was sitting there thinking during the break of some memories of stuff. You remember when we in 2013, we beat Missouri and Missouri was highly ranked in basketball. Julius Mays got really hot in those games. That was. I watched that game eating. Eating lunch next to Roger Federer and screaming at the Indian Wells tennis tournament.
Evan
So did you believe you had to be by Roger Federer and eat lunch every time?
Billy Rutledge
We didn't make the tournament because Roger Federer would not come watch the rest of the games.
Drew Franklin
He was trying to get into Roger Federer's shower at the tennis tournament.
Evan
Had to shut that down.
Billy Rutledge
Roger Federer came on the post game show for that game and said, go cats. All right, who's next?
Drew Franklin
Court is up next court.
Billy Rutledge
K R T.com what's up, court?
Caller
Hey, bud. How y' all doing?
Billy Rutledge
Doing good.
Caller
I was just wanting to know. L.J. cryer played at Baylor and then transferred, won a national championship, then transferred to Houston and could have been the first college player to win two natties at two different schools.
Billy Rutledge
That's right.
Caller
Denzel could be the first one to do it. As well as Mark Polk being the first coach to win the national championship where he was a player in Warren.
Billy Rutledge
Yes, both of those things are. There is a chance for history. I appreciate the call this year. Denzel. Aberdeen could be the first player to win a national championship at two different schools. And Mark Pope could be the first one to win a title in a school as a player and a coach. That would be very cool. Right?
Evan
I'm really excited about Aberdeen. I mean, I know Otega is probably gonna be the star, but Aberdeen, you know, he was when Florida won the national championship. He was on the floor for the last five minutes of the game. I mean, he was a very vital part of their national championship team, so he knows what it takes to win the big games.
Billy Rutledge
I just want to push back on. Ortega is certainly going to be the star. I think Ortega will be probably like last year, Drew, the most consistent player game to game and will maybe probably lead the team in scoring, but I think we're going to have a lot of stars and I. If I could bet on DraftKings, which I don't think you can bet on this. Who's going to be our leading scorer? The favorite should be Ortega, but Jalen Lowe, to me, you could get good odds on because I think there's a very good chance Jalen Lowe is our leading score. So I think we're going to have games next year where six, seven, eight different guys could be the leading score. Maybe not eight, but five, six, seven guys could be the leading score.
Drew Franklin
I think away will still be the leading score, but I think his average will actually drop from a year ago. It'll be a lot more balanced, especially the shooters around if they're a really good shooting team. I'm watching low to put up huge assist numbers because there's a lot of talk about him. Even Pat Kelsey raved about him. Him how he'll get to the rim and then kick it right back out for an open 3. Pitt just didn't have the pieces around him. I think he could really bring that next year if they're knocking down shots.
Billy Rutledge
I don't think our fan base realizes how good he is. I think our. I think because a lot of people wanted the kid from New Mexico. What was his name? Richard Dent.
Drew Franklin
Donovan. Dent.
Billy Rutledge
Donovan. Richard Dent played for the Bears. Yeah, it was Richard Dent's boy. I don't think. I think people are underestimating how good he is. And I think he's going to be really good. We need him to be really good. Yeah, but if he's really good, I think people are going to be surprised how good he is.
Evan
If you had to make a prediction right now, who gets the most minutes as backup point guard when Lohan needs a blow here, there, who. Who ends up getting the most minutes as our backup point guard?
Billy Rutledge
Aberdeen or Jasper Johnson? Depends on what? Depends on how Jasper Johnson. What's it. What he's like. Yeah, I think that he's. Again, you don't have to like, like, think about how we played when Jackson Robinson was our point card. You know, it doesn't have to be a point guard. I mean, Amari would bring the ball up sometimes. He did. I think you could just see a lot of different guys bringing it up. I think Jasper Johnson could be your lead playmaker in that scenario, but probably Aberdeen. Is that what you would.
Drew Franklin
I'd probably pick Aberdeen. I still think Colin Chandler's gonna have.
Billy Rutledge
The ball A lot.
Drew Franklin
I'm still expecting a big breakout from him, but I think behind Low, who will play the bulk of the minutes, by far it might be a balance.
Billy Rutledge
Low is leading the team in minutes.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, it's the only spot they're not true. Too deep.
Evan
He's got to stay healthy.
Billy Rutledge
He will lead the team in minutes. Who's next? Andy is next. Andy. Go ahead, Andy. Hey, Matt.
Caller
Two things. So first off, I was in the student section at Commonwealth Stadium for the Louisville and the LSU game that year. And the loudest pop I've ever heard there was when we thought we had.
Billy Rutledge
The pick six against Georgia last year.
Caller
And it stinks because of how the season went, how the game went, but.
Billy Rutledge
That was the loudest. That is a great call. That is a great call because. Because if you're just talking about when I lost my mind the most last year when they got that pick six against Georgia might have been it because I appreciate the call that was. I thought we had won the game. You know what I mean? Like I thought we had pulled like one of the all time upsets. That's a great call. Well, we will forget it because we didn't win. But Mario can tell you I just about broke that ESPN dude's house. I mean, I was at the head of ESPN Radio's house with Mario. We were watching the game. They hadn't even let us in the house yet. Remember, we were watching the game through the window and there were 200 ESPN employees standing outside. And Mario and I, we were knocking their furniture over the, the patio furniture. I lost my mind. Basically the whole party moved inside to watch the game because of how crazy Mario and I were going.
Evan
I was about to say, what kind of host makes you stand out in the yard doesn't even let you in.
Billy Rutledge
The house at that point. He hadn't even let us in the house.
Evan
I mean, let the man in to watch.
Billy Rutledge
But then when they saw us go crazy, everybody looked at us. And then all of a sudden everybody came in the house to watch the game.
Evan
Think about the narrative, how it would be different if that play stood, if that was a touchdown, pick six, we beat Georgia. The narrative of us talking about UK football today, completely different.
Billy Rutledge
If we beat Georgia, just think about all that could have been different. I think that season might have gone differently too. Vince Merrill might still be here.
Caller
I was going to say that.
Billy Rutledge
I mean the. Everything. And it was, and it, the play was made. It was just a. It was a call.
Evan
Yeah, right.
Drew Franklin
It was a wrong call. And then you get conservative at the end, don't go for it on fourth down and still lose the game. But yeah, I mean, that changes all of last year. You can live with a Vandy loss if you had beaten Georgia earlier in the season.
Evan
Yep. Everything could be different right now.
Drew Franklin
One that's not, one that's not to that level. But came up my mind of us just going crazy when Dane caught the touchdown in Oxford that got called back. I mean, shirts came off. We were running up and down the aisles, we hadn't seen the flag. Kentucky fans were going crazy thinking Dane had caught a game winner at the end of the game. And then it got pulled back.
Billy Rutledge
We talk about AD Ole Miss just.
Drew Franklin
Three or four years ago. Three years ago.
Evan
It's freshman year.
Billy Rutledge
Oh, it's freshman year.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, it was a catch. But none of us there saw the flag on the ground. The Kentucky section was going absolutely nuts.
Billy Rutledge
And when Barry on got it this year, true, but Barry on got that bomb this year and caught it. That was, that was a lot of fun, that, that old Miss game because again, the best wins are unexpected. And that one was one that was very unexpected. Let's quickly go over the other sporting events real quick. NBA Finals, you sad.
Evan
Oh, when Halliburton got hurt and OKC went up by 18 in the second quarter, I knew it was over. Pages made a good run to the end, but with Halliburton out there, just a different team.
Billy Rutledge
Casey Wallace couldn't start at Kentucky or excuse me, Case and Wallace, you know, wasn't allowed to be the point guard in Kentucky. Severe Wheeler was and yet still gets double digits in the NBA Finals game.
Drew Franklin
I saw Shea had 30 again. It's like Shea, Kobe, Michael Jordan, LeBron or something like that are the only players to score 30 points 15 times in the postseason.
Billy Rutledge
Murray State is out. Shannon Arkansas throws only the third no hitter in College World Series history.
Evan
Yeah, first one since 1960. Could have been the first ever perfect game in College World Series history if you didn't hit a guy on the eighth inning. But I'm sad that Murray's out. But you know what? That's a great accomplishment just to get there for them.
Billy Rutledge
No kidding. Another great interview with Dan Skerka after it was over. If you haven't seen his postgame interview, the coach, he says, you know, you're not supposed to cry in baseball, but sorry, I'm gonna cry. And he's. And he's sitting with his son and it was, it was very cool.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. He said only one team supposed to Leave here happy. But this year, two teams are going home. Going home happy.
Billy Rutledge
That's a great line.
Evan
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
I watched that entire game. Didn't miss a pitch. That dude was so dialed in. He had 19 strikeouts. 19 at the end. He's first thing comments like I shouldn't hit that one guy would have been the first person he was.
Billy Rutledge
He seemed almost psycho dialed in. Yeah, because they were like, hey, you're happy about your no hitter shouldn't hit the guy.
Drew Franklin
What stinks is Murray played really well. I think his third or fourth inning they could have get up a lot of runs. Only gave up one. It was one oh for most the game. But they just couldn't get a hit off.
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Billy Rutledge
That's right. We'll take a break and be right back. This is Kentucky sports radio.
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Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here at the Glenn Eye Center. Great host. You could come in, mention ksr, make an appointment, free optomap and retinal exam. They also have in a giveaway over the next week or so which includes sunglasses, UK gear and an autograph Mark Pope photo.
Evan
Nice.
Billy Rutledge
I think Larry was hoping we'd run into Mark Pope there yesterday. I knew he wasn't there, so I was like, I want. I was gonna, like, dress up as Mark Pope and me.
Evan
You think you could fool him?
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
No, but I was like, you know, hi, I'm Mark Pope.
Evan
I hope they probably told you when you went to that one end zone into the lounge area. The wood walls are the old wood bleachers.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah. So the. The wall on Memorial Coliseum, one of the sides are the bleachers from alumni or from Memorial Coliseum back in the 50s.
Evan
It's so cool, I think, to do that, you know, retain, preserve some history. Yes, exactly.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah. It's always amazing me what Larry can remember, because I'll be like, hey, Larry, this is Anthony Davis. Remember him? And he'll be like, I mean, a little bit. And then he'll just all of a sudden look at a picture and go, that's Cliff Barker. Anthony Davis was just a few years ago. He's on TV all the time.
Evan
But Cliff Barker, he wasn't impressed by Cliff Barker.
Drew Franklin
That will. That'll be all of us. One day I'll be pointing out Duran Lamb on a black and white photo that's 40 years old.
Billy Rutledge
I completely got to Ron Lamb.
Drew Franklin
Everybody else, speaking of Duran Lamb, did you see who joined him on tbt? That'll be playing him.
Billy Rutledge
Ainsley Almanor is going to play on the TBT team. Mario's probably as excited as anyone in history. His favorite player on his favorite team. I would think he's going to be really good because, I mean, he's like.
Evan
Fresh out of college, fresh legs.
Billy Rutledge
You got to think Ansley Almanor is going to be good for that.
Evan
Don't you just spot him up in the corner and let him shoot threes the whole game. He can knock him down for you.
Billy Rutledge
Are we going to be good?
Evan
Well, I don't know.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, we need to steal our team. We got Lamb.
Billy Rutledge
Okay.
Drew Franklin
Liggins.
Billy Rutledge
Okay.
Drew Franklin
Willie.
Billy Rutledge
Okay.
Drew Franklin
The Harrison twins, and now Elmnore. I don't think I'm missing are any.
Billy Rutledge
Of those different than what we had last year.
Drew Franklin
Almanor is New Lamb's new Liggins is new. Harrison's were the starting backcourt last year.
Billy Rutledge
Last year, though, our best player was Sestina. Yeah.
Evan
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Certainly the most passionate. I mean, when Willie turned it on, no one in TBT could do anything.
Billy Rutledge
Does he have a vacation schedule?
Drew Franklin
You better not. That's why they lost last year. But I want Ennis Cantor's brother back to Karim Kant. He was one of the stars. But I think they're gonna be good again. And Almanor being as young. I know he's old for college, but some of these guys in TBT are, you know, getting off work and getting to the gym.
Billy Rutledge
I wasn't here for any that. So I'm excited to be. I didn't get to see any of it. I mean, I didn't get seeing the games. I wasn't here for the excitement. I didn't get to see Drew get punched. I didn't get to see any of that. So I'm excited to be here for that.
Drew Franklin
The whole show we did where eight of them just rotated. This segment was so fun.
Evan
The whole community kind of embraced that team. I mean, they really got behind it. Like I said, Mark Pope even. And that last year's team kind of embraced him and followed him along the way.
Billy Rutledge
Should be fine. We host to for Memorial.
Drew Franklin
Yep.
Evan
First two. First two rounds. That goes back to yum for the region.
Billy Rutledge
So we have to play them in the region again. If we get there.
Drew Franklin
If they get there.
Evan
If they get there.
Drew Franklin
If Louisville gets there.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah. Well, they're gonna lose, of course. Who do they have?
Evan
Vince Merrill.
Drew Franklin
Post up the spitting guy on oaku.
Billy Rutledge
Okay.
Drew Franklin
Be spit on everybody again.
Billy Rutledge
That'd be fun. Be nice to have a. I'd love to go this time. I'm sure I'll be the one to get punched. Who's next?
Evan
Brad is next.
Billy Rutledge
Brad. Go ahead, Brad.
Caller
Hey, Matt, first time caller, longtime listener. I wanted to add to what the caller said before about the Georgia play and kind of the football for the Kentucky football. What ifs the Boom Williams play against the Gators in the Swamp. I think it was Mark Suits like third or fourth year where we thought we were going to end the street. That to me was the whole biggest.
Drew Franklin
They cheated on the play clock.
Evan
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
Oh, yeah.
Drew Franklin
It ran down to zero before we snapped it.
Billy Rutledge
They were cheater, cheater, pumpkin eaters on that one. Yes, Florida. But. But there was also a game in Lexington during that.
Drew Franklin
That was the hold where.
Billy Rutledge
That was the hold. It was a. Yeah, bad call.
Drew Franklin
Benny broke a big run to set him up and it got called back.
Caller
Yeah, man. Also, I wanted to add the top five honorable mentions in football. The play where Randall Cobb caught the fourth and five touchdown against South Carolina from Mike Hartline. That I was there at that game. That was the first time we had beaten Spurrier, I think, ever. And it was. It was one of the craziest Crowd pops I've ever seen. That's all I got.
Billy Rutledge
Appreciate it.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, that's the one I mentioned. I left out that I left the game at halftime to go to Hugh Jasper. I was in the stadium and left.
Billy Rutledge
That was when we were. Okay. So what was the game where we sort of broke out the whole lot of money.
Drew Franklin
That was the. That was South Carolina.
Billy Rutledge
That was with.
Drew Franklin
With Jojo getting carried off.
Billy Rutledge
That was a great one.
Drew Franklin
That game has so many iconic moments.
Billy Rutledge
They could not stop Jojo. I mean he just. They just. Wildcat, Wildcat, Wildcat.
Drew Franklin
And the street coach literally had to carry him to the sideline to get him off the field. He was cramping up so bad and had the bud tip that we already mentioned.
Evan
Yep.
Billy Rutledge
Oh, that was a great one, man. I hope we have at least one.
Drew Franklin
Might have been the first ever black chrome.
Billy Rutledge
Oh, dude, wait till we get our Toledo moments. Oh yeah. Who's up next?
Evan
We talking about it for years.
Billy Rutledge
Horace is up next. Horace. How are you, Horace?
Caller
Great, Matt. Hey, thanks for taking the call.
Billy Rutledge
Of course.
Caller
Hey, two quick football memories, both involving Tennessee 1984. 20 or 30 of my fraternity brothers from Sigma Nu went down and saw Dollar Bill Ransdell beat Tennessee.
Billy Rutledge
All right. I don't. What's the other one?
Caller
The COVID year my son Wyatt and I went down to Tennessee when Jamin Davis and boss man Fat both had pick sixes. Those are great pumping noise to. For the crowd because the crowd was silent because we were whooping them.
Billy Rutledge
That was a great one. I appreciate that. Two pick sixes against Tennessee and Knoxville. The Jamin Davis and good memory on boss man Fat doing it. Although he was involved in a terrible thing in the last week or so. But. But yeah, that was a great whooped him.
Drew Franklin
Was that Guarantano? I think I can still hear my dad cussing that guy out.
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KSR Podcast Episode Summary – June 17, 2025: Hour 2
Hosted by Matt Jones, Evan, and Drew Franklin from iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM), this episode of KSR delves deep into the world of Kentucky sports, sharing memorable moments, engaging listener interactions, and insightful analyses on current and upcoming seasons.
Timestamp: [04:17] – [09:37]
The hosts kick off the episode by discussing the challenges modern sports fans face in staying focused amidst a barrage of social media content. Billy Rutledge expresses frustration over how platforms like TikTok can divert attention from significant global events to trivial online dramas.
Notable Quotes:
Timestamp: [12:22] – [18:04]
The conversation shifts to reminiscing about iconic moments in Kentucky sports history. Key highlights include:
Austin McGinnis's Crucial Kick: Drew Franklin recalls McGinnis's game-winning kick against Mississippi State, which secured a bowl game for Kentucky and potentially saved Coach Mark Stoops's job.
Trevor Wallace's Heroics: The hosts discuss Wallace's interception and fumble recovery against Louisville, highlighting the dramatic shift it caused in the game.
Stevie Gallup's Game-Winning Play: Stevie Gallup's pivotal moment that fueled fan elation and solidified his status as a key player.
Timestamp: [06:15] – [10:09]
Billy Rutledge addresses the unintended consequences of social media algorithms, using J.J. Spawn's sudden fame and the ensuing scrutiny of his personal life as a case study. The hosts lament how fans can become overly invested in the off-field lives of athletes they barely know.
Notable Quotes:
Timestamp: [23:36] – [49:23]
Listeners contribute their own memories and pose thought-provoking questions, enriching the discussion:
Philip's Hypothetical Betting Scenario: Philip asks whether the hosts would prefer Kentucky to win all their basketball games over having perfect betting success. The hosts unanimously choose memorable sports moments over financial gains, emphasizing the emotional value of sports victories.
Andy’s Recollections of the Pick Six Play: Andy shares his experience witnessing a game-changing Pick Six against Georgia, prompting reflections on how pivotal plays shape the narrative of a season.
Timestamp: [32:21] – [35:02]
The hosts analyze the potential impact of current and emerging players on Kentucky's future seasons:
Denzel Aberdeen and Mark Pope's Milestones: Discussion on Aberdeen’s potential to win national championships with different teams and Mark Pope’s possible achievements as both a player and coach.
Jalen Lowe’s Role: Speculation on Lowe possibly becoming the leading scorer, balancing team dynamics with multiple players potentially taking on significant roles.
Timestamp: [30:33] – [37:17]
The hosts delve into past seasons, discussing critical moments and decisions that influenced game outcomes:
Timestamp: [37:17] – [49:38]
Listeners share vivid personal stories of witnessing unforgettable plays and their emotional impacts:
Randall Cobb's Performance: Accounts of Cobb's game-winning plays and the ensuing chaos among fans, highlighting the intense emotional connections fans have with pivotal game moments.
Split-second Decisions and Their Aftermath: Recollections of last-minute decisions during games that could have altered the season's trajectory.
Timestamp: [50:04] – [51:14]
As the episode winds down, the hosts reiterate the importance of cherished sports memories over financial achievements, fostering a sense of community and shared experiences among Kentucky sports enthusiasts.
Notable Quote:
This episode of KSR offers a nostalgic yet insightful exploration of Kentucky sports, enriched by personal anecdotes and interactive listener engagements. The hosts adeptly balance reminiscing about past glories with analyzing current team dynamics and future prospects, all while emphasizing the profound emotional bonds that sports create among fans.
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