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Ryan Lemond
Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. It is Ask Anything Wednesday. I'll get back to the phones here in just one second. The question before the break was about what will happen to Club Blue. As I understand it, Club Blue will start to be used for they can, there still can be ads they do like signings and things like that. I think they'll still, they're going to kind of navigate a lot of the putting players with endorsers space. So there will still be things they do but they will have an adjusted role. They won't just be like getting a set of money and, and giving it to players. But there will be a role. I expect at some point this summer I'll have the people that run that on to sort of talk about what in the new space they'll be but they will still exist and they will still have a role in getting players, especially on the basketball side to Kentucky.
Matt Jones
It is a good question because the organization has been, you know, really function, you know, highly functional helping Kentucky get these kids.
Ryan Lemond
Well, the original idea of it is you as a company or you as a group of fans come and say hey, I want to have Trent Noah at my business. And they go okay, here's what it it costs, right? That ended up sort of I think evolving into you get them to get players. I don't know. I don't think that's what it will be in the future, but I don't know if it'll play a secondary role. So it still remains to be seen. I mean, this starts July 1st, right? So some of what is happening right now in football and basketball is you're seeing kids commit now because the rules don't start till July 1st.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
You're probably asking yourself, why are so many people committing in football right now? That's a big part of the reason. Which brings me to my second question, which comes in and someone asks, UK Football has been on a hot streak with recruiting in the last few days. Do you think it is intentional trying to answer people's questions about if they can recruit with Vince Gaught? Without question? Sure.
Matt Jones
It is.
Ryan Lemond
Clearly uk. I don't know, Drew, if they had some of these already lined up or not, but there's no doubt in my mind they were trying to do this, to have, hey, we can get guys without. Because they've gotten a number of good players in the last few days.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Felt like two weeks ago they had one. We were wondering if they were doing anything, kind of poking them with a stick. Now I think they're up to seven. I don't know if you saw them. Well, there's one yesterday, but the one two days ago is my favorite. Did you see the kid, Messiah Tilson?
Ryan Lemond
He's highly ranked, right?
Drew Franklin
Yeah, he's a good one. Good get safety. But he. What team was? I want to say Wisconsin. He unveiled a Wisconsin shirt. Everybody goes crazy. He takes it off and he has a Rutgers shirt on. So everyone goes really crazy. And then he took off the Rutgers shirt and had on a Kentucky shirt.
Ryan Lemond
So he did the old double fake out.
Drew Franklin
The double fake out, that was over the weekend. But yeah, they've added a lot. They're in a good space with their top quarterback right now. But to the point, I do think it's very clear. They probably had a lot of guys that were close and said, we need some good momentum right now. Let's get as many locked in as we can.
Ryan Lemond
Do you like the double fake?
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah, I don't think. Has anybody ever done that? If they have, I've never heard of.
Ryan Lemond
It before, but I like the single fake. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen the double fake.
Matt Jones
Hey, there's only one way to do it better. Triple fake out.
Drew Franklin
And we've seen him reach for hats and kind of move back. He had on like full jackets and sweatshirts and lots of layers of clothing he was pulling off. But it was a good get form.
Ryan Lemond
I think it's important for them to show that they can recruit without.
Matt Jones
Of course it is.
Ryan Lemond
I know the pride that they have over there in recruiting. They would love nothing more than to finish the year ahead of Louisville in the recruiting rankings. Now, I have no idea if they'll be able to do that. These recruiting rank. Everything is so different in nil, the freshman recruiting. I think a lot of schools aren't even looking for the same thing. A lot of schools have switched to can we get guys who can play right away. If not, we're just going to take somebody from the transfer portal. But nevertheless, it will be interesting to see if they're able to do that.
Matt Jones
And it's not a coincidence at all that these kids are recruiting. Right after Vince left, I think probably Mark Stoops and their. Their position coach called him immediately. Like, hey man, let's go ahead. Let's make a splash right now. Let's go ahead and make. Get that commitment and they can. These kids have done it for them.
Ryan Lemond
One person writes on the text machine. Matt, do you and Drew. This is for you and Drew. Do you watch Love Island? I have not. I'm not against those kinds of shows. I just haven't gotten into it. But I know it's a huge thing. Do you watch Love Island?
Drew Franklin
I've seen a season of it a couple years ago. Might have been season one. I watched with Abby and I told her that was fun. You can have the next.
Ryan Lemond
What is the premise? Is it like we're hot, we're dating on an island.
Drew Franklin
There's so many of them and get confused. There's love as a circle and love is blind and upside down love. And this one, there's temptation. I generally don't know. I know I've watched it. They put them all on a spot and go ahead.
Matt Jones
It's a British reality show revival of the early celebrity series of the same name, which aired in 2005. So it's. It's just, I guess people on an island that are dating. Right? It is what it. What it says in the title.
Ryan Lemond
So the difference is what? They just put them on an island, I guess.
Matt Jones
So you're stuck on an island.
Ryan Lemond
I know that the people are. I know I've heard the people are very hot, which is what you would assume for these things. And that they, they, you know, they're crazy. I just know that it's hard for. There are so many of these. They rarely pop on my radar. And this is one that I know people in my life Are waiting for the new one to drop. They're very excited about. So I don't know why it is.
Drew Franklin
Networks have found the good recipe of get some possibly mentally unstable people, put them in a very nice resort, give them lots of booze and then just watch them fight over each other. There's several of those.
Ryan Lemond
There's another one of these shows that everyone tells me I should watch that I haven't seen called traders.
Matt Jones
Don't know that one.
Drew Franklin
It's familiar with traders. I can't.
Ryan Lemond
I guess they live in a castle. And one person in the group is a traitor. Shannon and the others are regular and it's time. The regular people have to figure out who the traitor is. The trader has to not be caught.
Matt Jones
I've never seen that before. I think I might like it though, based on.
Ryan Lemond
I think peacock and I think it's very popular. It won the award the last two years, the Emmy for best reality show.
Matt Jones
It did.
Ryan Lemond
So apparently it's. It's not just stupid. It's probably stupid, but it's not. It's not as stupid. It might actually be good.
Drew Franklin
I think Donna Kelsey's on the new season. I think I saw that on Twitter recently.
Ryan Lemond
Is that tr. Trevor Kelsey, Travis Kelsey mom.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Do you remember?
Ryan Lemond
The mom is on there.
Drew Franklin
I believe she's coming up on the next one.
Ryan Lemond
You sure it wasn't Temptation Island?
Drew Franklin
She could have been on there too.
Ryan Lemond
So Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey's mom is on the show.
Drew Franklin
Unless I fell for a Facebook ad like Mario.
Ryan Lemond
That would be fascinating. I think it's funny if like the next season of wrestlers they put my mom on as maybe one of the cast members.
Drew Franklin
Scott, that was Alan cumming, the actor. Cummings.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. He's a British guy.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. It's supposed. It's like do you remember the mole? It was a big deal when it came out on network years ago. Yeah. It's basically a spin off of that, but it's huge.
Ryan Lemond
Okay, well, I have not. I have not seen it. 859-280-2287. Let's go to Scott. What's up, Scott? How you want it, guys?
Matt Jones
Hey, guys, Just got a hypothetical question.
Ryan Lemond
If Tom Leach would announce his retirement today. Yes. And they had to choose one of you four guys.
Drew Franklin
Which one of y' all would take.
Ryan Lemond
His place to be the play by play guy? Yeah, what's the.
Drew Franklin
Which one of y' all might be the best one to do it?
Ryan Lemond
I'm not sure any of us would be good. I appreciate the call. I mean, I. I Don't. I don't think that's really. I don't think that's really our talent.
Matt Jones
I wanted to get into radio to do that.
Ryan Lemond
What?
Matt Jones
I wanted to get into radio to do play by play. I've never done it before.
Ryan Lemond
So that's why you wanted to be in radio?
Matt Jones
Yeah. My career path took a different turn, but I always wanted to do Playboy.
Ryan Lemond
You went from wanting to be Tom Leach to Booty Shaking.
Matt Jones
You got to get in where you can, right?
Ryan Lemond
Huh? Be funny. If it had flipped and you were the Voice and Tom Leech hosted the Booty Shaking, that would be awesome. If it. If he was Tom, the dude at Larger than Life, introducing Corn, he could do it.
Matt Jones
I can see Tom up there.
Ryan Lemond
Ladies and gentlemen. Corn.
Matt Jones
No. You heard him scream. Touchdown Kentucky. Touchdown.
Ryan Lemond
Booty Shaking.
Drew Franklin
Let's go.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. I don't know that any of us would be good at it. I mean, Ryan, you probably have the most experience.
Matt Jones
I've done play by play for many different sports.
Ryan Lemond
I worry you would be inappropriate. You couldn't even do the halftime thing without getting kicked off of it.
Matt Jones
I only made it through a season and a half of the halftime show.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. I mean, a lot of people forget this. I think we talked about it a few weeks ago. I did color commentary on three UK basketball games on the official television broadcast. Do you think anybody remembers that?
Matt Jones
No.
Ryan Lemond
I did three games. It was me, Dave Baker and Robbie Moss.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I remember that.
Ryan Lemond
It was the first three games that they ever did on the ESPN plus. So I think they've kind of gone. Faded into history. But the only reason that it came up was I was looking at one of those Daniel Hagers. Every game we've beaten a school, here's a basket from it.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
And there was every Kentucky win in the Caliper era. One basket. And if you watch that, they're playing, I don't know, Jackson State and you hear me talk really during the. During the thing. And I. It was. It. It almost. I was watching it, not expecting to hear myself, and I kind of was thrown off by it.
Matt Jones
I remember you doing it. I didn't remember there were actually three games, but I remember you and Robbie.
Ryan Lemond
Mission game.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
Where we played. It was the. It was the. It was the Nerlens Noel season.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Ryan Lemond
Right. So it was Nerlens Noel and you know, that year. And there was one exhibition game and 2 non. All of them against bad teams. And I. That's hard to imagine that they let me do that. I mean, I was on the official Broadcast? Yes. I didn't talk a lot because I was nervous. I let Dave and Ravi do most of it and then I would just chime in occasionally.
Drew Franklin
I don't think we played nor Northwood. Wait, it says we played transy that year too. They wouldn't put you on the transy game?
Ryan Lemond
Actually I might have been on the transy game. I think I know I would. Northwood is definitely one of them. That was one of them. What are the other games that year? I could maybe. When you say the team I remember.
Drew Franklin
Then it went straight into Maryland and Duke. I doubt you know, Lafayette, Morehead, Long Island.
Ryan Lemond
Long Island. Those are the two I did Northwood, Long island and then what were the two exhibition games? Transy and what?
Drew Franklin
Northwood. Those are the exhibition.
Ryan Lemond
I guess Northwood was the exhibition game idea. Maybe I just did Northwood and Long island because maybe I only did two but I don't remember.
Matt Jones
I remember you doing it though.
Ryan Lemond
I could do the color. I can't do the play by play. Be impossible. It's just too much. Boys. Go ahead boys. I'm just wondering when Mark we think.
Drew Franklin
Mark poll.
Ryan Lemond
I think right now we got the 14 ballplayers.
Drew Franklin
One of the is they think that.
Ryan Lemond
Mark Tolbert is going to give us back to 15. Well, I think we have 15. I appreciate the call. We have walk on Austin or is Austin. Who's coming back?
Drew Franklin
Zach Tao's back.
Ryan Lemond
Solomon photos back.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, Darbyshire. It was announced yesterday he's at Cincinnati.
Ryan Lemond
Austin Horn.
Drew Franklin
Walker Horn.
Ryan Lemond
Walker Horn.
Matt Jones
Yeah, him too.
Drew Franklin
He's. Yeah, he's. He's gone. Right.
Matt Jones
Something about him recently.
Ryan Lemond
Zach Tao was on the floor yesterday in practice. So maybe he'll be. But remember the rules have changed. You can have 15 players on scholarship but you. You could only have 15 players. So.
Drew Franklin
So maybe Walker Horn is back with Zach.
Ryan Lemond
I think Walker Horn is back. Zach Towel may be an assistant or you know, grad or something but. So the rules have changed. Used to be you could have 13 scholarships and as many walk ons as you want. Now you can have 15 players. They can all be scholarships if you want them to be. But then you can't have anyone else.
Matt Jones
Cut off at 15.
Ryan Lemond
So do you like that rule? It'll basically mean you have two extra scholarships. That's good but it'll probably mean they'll do less Sam Malone's in the future.
Matt Jones
Very true. Yeah, we kind of like that when the. The walk on the end of the bench gets in the game. And now these are guys going to be all Scholarship players. But maybe it's a chance for like Walker Horn, his last year can be on scholarship. The last year.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. So I don't think they're ever going to need 15 scholarship players. So I think having that last one for a walk on kind of players probably. Okay.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. I'm looking at the photo right now. Zach Tao and Walker Horn are in the action yesterday. So I'm glad my Madisonville guy got to stick around.
Ryan Lemond
Jerry, how are you? Jerry? Hey, Matt.
Matt Jones
Back on the, onto the football, I was, I was curious when Ryan was saying that the offensive line is getting better. Well, it couldn't get any worse. So I expect marginal improvement out of the offense. But what I really think this team is going to have a hard time is I just don't think, I think it's probably the worst roster they've had since right before they won the first, you know, 10 win season. And particularly on the front seven on the defense, particularly defensive line. And when I hear stuff that, well, we're smaller but we're quicker. That's Kentucky for our defensive line shoved all over the field. I think that's what's going to happen this year is the offense may be a little bit better, but I think that the defensive front in particular is going to be a lot worse.
Ryan Lemond
They probably will. I appreciate the call. I think the defensive front will be worse. Worse because we've had a pretty good defensive front a lot of years. Not been able to get to quarterback the last couple years. But in stopping the run and stuff, I think the defense will be a little worse. I think the offense will be a little better.
Matt Jones
Yeah, they've got what Josiah Hayes and Khalil Saunders, they're both back on the D line. Maybe they can make a big step up this year.
Ryan Lemond
And you hope.
Matt Jones
Yeah, you really hope they will.
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Pay off via virtual prepaid for 15 days. Credits end and balance due if you pay off early or cancel CT mobile.com Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. It is Ask Anything Wednesday. We have some breaking news. Shannon. All right, so UK has just announced their SEC basketball schedule. Home and away. Let's go through here. Drew, you read me the schedule. Give me the home games first. I'll do wins and losses. Just the home ones first.
Drew Franklin
Home games first. No dates on these, just opponents.
Ryan Lemond
Georgia when Ole Miss win.
Drew Franklin
Mississippi State win. Missouri win.
Ryan Lemond
Oklahoma win.
Drew Franklin
Texas when? How about that? Going undefeated at home. That's pretty cool.
Ryan Lemond
Those are pretty easy home opponents. That must mean the road is much harder than it usually is, because those are six. I mean, I feel like we win all six of those without even sweating. Texas is the only one that might be.
Drew Franklin
Excuse me. There's another category. The home and away. The three we play at home. And I should.
Ryan Lemond
So who are the three? So give me.
Drew Franklin
These are our three. We play them twice.
Ryan Lemond
All right. So I'll just do the home part.
Drew Franklin
Go Florida.
Ryan Lemond
I'm gonna say we win at home.
Drew Franklin
Tennessee.
Ryan Lemond
I'm gonna say we lose at home. Vandy will beat Vandy. So I'm gonna have us 8 and 1 at home. Now give me the roads.
Drew Franklin
Road games without return trips. Alabama loss, Arkansas wind, Auburn loss. Just those three alone without getting a home game.
Ryan Lemond
That's a tough. Again, Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, all three on the road. I'll say we go one and two on those.
Drew Franklin
It goes a little easier. Now LSU when South Carolina when A and M win.
Ryan Lemond
And then the three double ones have.
Drew Franklin
Florida, Tennessee, Van De.
Ryan Lemond
Florida loss, Tennessee win. Because we always flip. We own them there and then Vandy wins. So I'm gonna have us. That's my 14 and four losses are home, Tennessee road, Florida road, Alabama road, Auburn. Chances are we'll drop one of the other random roads because it happens.
Matt Jones
Yep.
Ryan Lemond
So 14 and 4, 13 and 5. That's about what we predicted before, right?
Matt Jones
Yeah, that. That like that's fair. I mean, that's, that's a tough road. When you got at Alabama, at Auburn, at Arkansas, at Florida, at Tennessee. Those are five.
Ryan Lemond
There's definitely a path though, to go undefeated at home in conference. You look at it and it's as. It's a. It's a. It's odd that all the tough games are on the road. We actually get. I mean, we actually have a home schedule that's not great in conference.
Matt Jones
Right.
Ryan Lemond
So the difference is we've always played Tennessee and Vandy twice. Last year we played Alabama twice. This year it's Florida.
Matt Jones
Florida.
Ryan Lemond
So they gave us another hard. Defending champion, defending champ.
Drew Franklin
Last year was the first time since the 60s that we only played Florida once, which is pretty unique. Every year we've had the double header with them. So at least that's back of all years when they're the defending.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, we have to get them when.
Drew Franklin
They'Re defending champs twice and probably the preseason favorite.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, well, I mean, they're always going to give us Tennessee and Vandy twice. So you're only going to get one other team. I think the way it's going to be is Kentucky is just going to consistently get the best team in the SEC as our third.
Matt Jones
Sure.
Ryan Lemond
I think that's just the way it's going to be. And that's the price you pay for being the marquee program. You're paying a toll to be Kentucky and the toll is you're going to get the best team in the conference twice for the marquee matchup.
Matt Jones
I don't, I mean, they're going to be good, but I don't think Tennessee, Alabama and Auburn will be as good as they were last year.
Ryan Lemond
No, but Florida's going to be as maybe a little worse, but very, very good. I think Texas is going to be a little better.
Matt Jones
Arkansas is going to be good.
Ryan Lemond
Arkansas probably be a little better than they were in the regular season, but I don't know that they're going to say going to be better than the sw, which is what they were in the tournament.
Drew Franklin
They'll all depend on if Cal Perry's two freshman guards are worth anything. He didn't really do a great job loading up on big man. He still lacks shooters, but if Acuff and Malik Thomas are, you know, true star guards and they'll be good.
Ryan Lemond
Well, it's interesting. So some good road games. We'll see about what happens. What happens in some of the others. But I like, I like the schedule. SEC is just not as good. There's a lot of game. Last year it was hard to find certain win games. This year there's more certain win games than there have been in years past. Now I don't think there's as many certain loss games. Last year there were like four games. I was like, we're not winning those. I don't think that's true this year.
Matt Jones
But you're like, there'll be one of those road games like at Texas or somewhere. Well, they're A and Texas at home.
Ryan Lemond
Maybe A and M or something like that where you might end up slipping. Channing, go ahead. Chanting hey, what's going on, guys? I was calling to go back to the Meadowbrook Golf Course. Yes.
Matt Jones
So fun, fun fact.
Ryan Lemond
They actually have. I know at one point it was.
Matt Jones
The largest league in Kentucky.
Ryan Lemond
Really. They have, they have over 185 players play every week. It's called the Medics Cup. Little play on the FedEx cup, obviously. And yeah, John John out there runs.
Matt Jones
It and it's like he switches up every week. You know, like one week you have.
Ryan Lemond
A two club challenge, one week it's like a one man scramble.
Matt Jones
Then he, he pairs every week up with the major.
Ryan Lemond
So it's always like based on the US Open, British Open, stuff like that.
Matt Jones
So it's really awesome league and I've.
Drew Franklin
Played in it for like three years.
Ryan Lemond
And it's really kind of cool. I like that. I appreciate the call. I would. You know what? I've always wanted to do that. I've never been able to Do Drew is. I've wanted to play something like the Ryder Cup. Not. Obviously not in the Ryder Cup. I don't think I would lose 10 and 8, but I would like to have a group of people that were my team and we played another team and did the various pairings and all that. I don't know how I would ever do that because I don't even know what my team would be. And I don't want Ryan on my team. But me and you and Billy, we could find nine other people and then challenge some other group of people. Maybe a UK Media team versus a Louisville media team. I think that would be a lot of fun.
Drew Franklin
I have some friends. I'm very jealous of them. They've been doing it for probably a decade, but they have teams and they go to different. It's a trip. And, you know, you wear the same polos as your teammates. They have a big traveling trophy. I would like to participate.
Ryan Lemond
I would love to do something like that. I don't know how you would ever get about going with one of those, but I think that would be. I think that would be a lot of fun.
Drew Franklin
Have the answer to your old par three course, by the way, in Lexington.
Ryan Lemond
What was the name of it?
Drew Franklin
It was called Par. It had mini golf, a par three course, and a few other things. But the actual name of the place was par three.
Ryan Lemond
Yes. That is where one of my two holes in one were. One is at Middlesborough Country Club. Number. Hole three and one was at that place, which doesn't exist. It was like whole 12.
Matt Jones
It was. It was there off Mason Heatley.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Under lights.
Ryan Lemond
I got it when I was like, 11 or 12 years old, and it was at that. And now it doesn't exist anymore. Bill, go ahead, Bill.
Drew Franklin
That. That sounds like a story that.
Ryan Lemond
That sounds like a story that would happen to me. I hit one hole in one. The course. It's like going to high school when it closes down.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Two quick things. One, it's really ironic you talked about.
Ryan Lemond
Traders because I think Drew said he's.
Matt Jones
A big Survivor fan. In my house, we watch a lot of trash tv, and two of my.
Ryan Lemond
Favorites are Traders and Survivor.
Matt Jones
And I don't know if Drew knows.
Ryan Lemond
Who Boston Rob is. I assume he does, but he played last season on traders, so. Okay, 20 seconds. Watch for you.
Matt Jones
And secondly, I always hear Ryan talk.
Ryan Lemond
That like he hates Saul Smith. I don't know that story.
Matt Jones
Can we please share it?
Ryan Lemond
See you guys. Is Ask anything Wednesday. We gotta go to a break. Ask Anything Wednesday. Ryan, we do. Do you not want to do what they asked to do? T.J. smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. he'll make him pay.
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Ryan Lemond
You're declining and ask anything Wednesday question.
Matt Jones
I don't mind talking about it. I just, I just didn't think Saul was that good of a point guard when he was here at Kentucky. You know, he didn't do a good job running the offense and that really upset, it really upset me. Yeah.
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Wow.
Ryan Lemond
And that is after the university kicks in an extra 12 million. So if it wasn't for that, it would be a 29.
Matt Jones
My goodness.
Ryan Lemond
Now I just want to explain the difference between Kentucky and Louisville in this regard. Kentucky is, takes no money from the university. Kentucky Athletics, once you think about that for a minute, Kentucky Athletics is self sufficient. We are one of the few athletic departments in the country that is self sufficient and we aren't running the deficit at least as of now. I don't know if that's going to happen with the addition of however many million of the, you know, rev share, but it is pretty amazing that they've been able to do that. And it's why I told you I there will be an announcement at Some point that UofL will take money from private equity. They have to, they don't have. There's no way they can spend the amount of money that they want to spend to be competitive. That they cannot take money from private equity. At which point U of L athletics will be in part owned by just random private companies. And it's just going to happen. There's no, there is no way the budget will work for Louisville doing that because they don't get as they get half the amount of money on their TV deal as Kentucky does.
Matt Jones
You know, you've mentioned this before and I've always crossed my mind why wouldn't teams do that? Why wouldn't programs that are in.
Ryan Lemond
Well, I mean they're. Because a public university being partially owned by a private individual causes some conflicts. I mean, let me just give it. It's, it's, we saw this in the national government with Elon Musk. If you're the, if you're Elon Musk and you're helping run the government and you have $400 million in contracts with the government. There's a decent chance if you're making decisions, Shannon, you're going to make like, they're going to be like, well, we can't make him mad. Right? Right. Okay, so if there's a private equity group that owns a piece of U of L athletics, is it crazy to think that the state is going to give that company or that equity group in the legislature, going to give them some private. You know, give them some favoritism? Yeah, of course they're propping up the athletic department. So I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it. Heck, Kentucky may do it one day. But I am saying it does raise some red flags when a government entity is taking. I mean, I can't think of many scenarios outside of, like, bondholders, where private entities own part of a government institution. There are many entities. Instances where a government has a contract with a private. That happens all the time, but where the private entity owns a part of a public thing. But I think that may be coming with athletics.
Matt Jones
Sounds like it.
Ryan Lemond
So I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying it's. You know, it raises Drew some. Some red flags. Right.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. First of all, well done with a $30 million deficit. I mean, that's impressive that they got into that big of a hole.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. And the university's having to kick in $12 million, which I just want to make clear to all of you that are listening here. All of us are. All of us are spending some money on U of L athletics. Your tax dollar at UK Shannon's tax dollars. Not one dollar of Shannon's tax money is going to UK athletics, which is an amazing thing. Eli Capilouto, Lee Todd, and Mitch Barnhart deserve a lot of credit for that. But right now, Shannon, mine, yours, Drew's, and Ryan's, pennies of our tax dollars are going to UofL athletics.
Matt Jones
We're funding them a little bit. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Well, collectively. Collectively, blood money.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, a little bit. Now, I mean, does that offend me? No. But I do think it's worth noting that of the two major athletic departments in the country, tax dollars are used for one and not for the other. I don't think most people know that.
Matt Jones
I didn't know that, but it's true.
Ryan Lemond
And I didn't know it was that much. I think last year, a few years ago, it was like $5 million was given from the University of Louisville to the athletics department. Well, now it's $12 million. So to put it another way, all of us paid pennies to send Vince to Louisville.
Matt Jones
I want my pennies back.
Drew Franklin
They can keep my pennies. They need them. I'm just saying, could a private investor come in as just a complete hater? I'm a Kent. I just want to get in.
Ryan Lemond
And you would hope the university would. Would keep that out. But I. Listen, this is going to be the next 10 years. State governments and taxpayers are going to have to think about what are we willing to sell our souls for for investment in our college sports programs. Okay, it's one thing for a booster at U of L, who's a big U of L fan, to invest 10% in the company, but will we be cool with the UK athletic department being owned 15% by the Saudi investment fund? I mean, these are the questions schools are going to have to start asking themselves once you start taking private investment. Are there going to be rules, who you can take it from? You know, can you take it from companies that believe in things that would be against state law? These are all the questions that are coming. And I think that's. I don't think people realize that. So one of these schools is going to break. Is going to break the seal and do it, and then all this stuff is going to start to be asked. And it would not surprise me if Louisville was one of the first ones to do it, because again, they have a $17 million. Like, what are they going to do? They don't have a choice. And unlike, say, smu, which has private donors that can make up the difference, Louisville's got donors, but not like that. So we'll see. John from Austin. Go ahead, Sean.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Hey, guys, about the football. Everybody's trying to find something to be excited about. I'm in Paris this week. We stopped by LSU for a football camp. We stopped by Tuscaloosa for a football.
Ryan Lemond
Camp, and then we came here.
Matt Jones
And there was probably less than one third of the kids there. I'm just walking around the stadium, went to the restrooms. It just. It looks like in a bad state of work, repairs. Again, just. Just trying to get a temperature of.
Ryan Lemond
The football season and trying to find. So you're comparing it to lsu and what was the other one?
Matt Jones
We went to LSU and went to Alabama.
Ryan Lemond
Okay, well, those are two big differences. Yeah. So you're saying not as many kids. What else is the difference between an LSU and an Alabama football camp and say, a Kentucky football camp?
Matt Jones
The T shirts, number one, their. Their shirts were like LSU was gold with big LSU across the front.
Ryan Lemond
The kids number on the back, like.
Matt Jones
At Bama, the announcer, they had a full blown pa. They were, they were screaming at these kids. It was super high energy and tons of Alabama players on the field conducting.
Ryan Lemond
The drills with the kids, just really, really well run.
Matt Jones
And my son just walked out and just was like, you know, was. It wasn't really impressed with the camp. Again, this isn't directly SEC football, but it's part of it. Right.
Ryan Lemond
They're trying to put together the. No, I, I, it's an inch.
Matt Jones
I mean, wasn't impressive.
Ryan Lemond
I appreciate the call. That's, that's good information. You, you went through some of that at various points.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
Have you seen that in your travels with Dane and or Josiah?
Matt Jones
Absolutely. Some schools do a great job with their camps, make it fun. Other schools just kind of like are just going through the motions. Just taking your money and just kind of going through the motion.
Ryan Lemond
Which do you think Kentucky is?
Matt Jones
If I was going to be honest, I'd say Kentucky was kind of in the middle because they were so overcrowded. They just had too many kids there.
Ryan Lemond
When you went.
Matt Jones
Yeah, well, Josiah went. I didn't participate. I wanted to, but there's one going on right now.
Ryan Lemond
Surprised you didn't. You didn't do it. Patriot papa, Go ahead.
Drew Franklin
Hey, guys, just a couple of points. One little bit whimsical with the bark in the park that you let off the show with.
Ryan Lemond
I love dogs.
Drew Franklin
We love dogs at our house. But I understand Matt's point also. Just, just because they're cute and cuddly and all that. It's really difficult to see being comfortable at a ball game with, you know, dogs all over the place. I mean, what's next? Horses on the concourses or cats with bats?
Ryan Lemond
I mean, exactly. Horse on the course. I'd love to see the masters with some horses on there, but otherwise. Yeah, yeah, you're pointed is exactly right. What's your other thing?
Drew Franklin
Second, Second point.
Ryan Lemond
Give me some more in the audience.
Drew Franklin
In general, some more information about our front seven defensively for the Cats football team. I know everybody's trying really, really hard to find something positive and to find some energy and some hope and, and all that. I almost feel like we're going back to the 1980s or something here with.
Ryan Lemond
Well, let me ask. Drew's probably the person that best suited to answer that. I appreciate the call. How would you describe our front seven, Drew?
Drew Franklin
Well, there's so many new pieces, it's hard to say. And a lot of them didn't come from high major schools. Ryan Mentioned Josiah Hayes is back. That's a familiar name. Coming back off an injury on the defensive line. He'll be good. They got the David Gusta. Gusta. That was a big commit out of the portal. But again, you just.
Ryan Lemond
Where'd he come from?
Drew Franklin
Washington State. Until you. He was highly. He was one of the top targets in the portal, especially in his position. But the front seven specifically. So many new faces, it's hard to really tell how they'll be. There's a lot of familiar familiarity in the secondary behind them. But up front, a lot of new pieces. Your pass rushers, they got like a Sam Green Marquis, Humphrey Graves. Yeah. There's just. It's so new. That's why, like, when you're trying to get excited, you see their names in the paper or on. On paper. And when Kentucky got them out of the portal, they're exciting, but never played together, never played in the sec. We won't really know anything about this whole team until they get them out there.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. Washington State kid is, I think, our highest rated guy in the portal. Right.
Drew Franklin
Close to it. If not. If not.
Ryan Lemond
So he'll be. He'll be an important one. You know, we've had the same linebackers, it felt like for 15 years. So they're going to be a new group. You know anything.
Drew Franklin
Rayner back who didn't play a whole lot. Yeah. And then Afari, Alex Afari, who's been.
Ryan Lemond
Playing since Alex Far, has been here for.
Drew Franklin
He was making plays as a true freshman, but he'll be a big piece this year.
Matt Jones
We always worry about the secondary. Yet this is a. That's the one group on the defense. They've got some good experience with Jordan Lovett and Ty Bryant kind of leading the way back there.
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CT mobile.com Welcome back TY Sports Radio. I do want to note because we need to be fair on all this stuff. Kentucky announced a few a couple weeks ago that they are are taking alone the UK athletics from UK for the next two years as they get to the transition of. Of of fund. Excuse me player, I guess revenue sharing but the difference between what I'm talking about with UK and U of L is UK is UK Athletics is taking a loan from the university but paying it back. The U of L money is just being given with no expectation to pay back. That's a difference. UK Athletics is taking this loan and paying it back. UK Athletics now this has not been the case always but it has been for like the last 15 years. Does not take money from the university as part of their budget. They are self sufficient. So they are taking this loan but I think Barnhart said would have it paid back within three to five years. So to me that's different than just taking. I mean what there's a difference between we want a $14 million a year loan for two years that we will then Pay back to you within five years and we take $12 million every year going forward with no payback. And that's the difference. And I'm not even blasting U of L for it. They have to do what they have to do. But I don't think people realize the difference in how the two departments are run.
Matt Jones
Am I crazy? But does it. Was it just a couple years ago where the university was fearing like financial crisis so bad they were like going to go bankrupt or something? Like who?
Ryan Lemond
U of L? I don't think that's. I don't think that was the case.
Matt Jones
I thought. I remember they were in such financial crisis. They were in the red.
Ryan Lemond
Did you run everybody off the phone? Shannon? There were six people on the line. We went to break and now there's just one.
Matt Jones
Nope.
Ryan Lemond
You didn't yell at them. No. I think you can be very intimidating.
Matt Jones
Oh yeah, I can be.
Ryan Lemond
The KSR, the Matt Jones show, which is Thursday nights in WHA's. This week we are going to do another segment of the news with me, Drew and Billy. Are you excited to learn the news from Billy?
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Especially since I've been gone a week and a half. I don't even know a little bit of the news. So I will really be reacting to it in real time.
Ryan Lemond
We are naming the segment. We're naming those shows it's the news.
Drew Franklin
So, okay, straightforward.
Ryan Lemond
So it's the news. We'll tape it today. We'll probably put it up on podcast tonight. It'll run tomorrow on H S. But.
Drew Franklin
It'S the news officially interrupted by Matt Jones yet? Or is it. What am I on today? Do we have.
Ryan Lemond
We have the Matt Jones Show. It's just occasionally episodes will be called it's the news.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, but I mean. So I'm just wondering what show interrupted?
Ryan Lemond
We haven't yet. It's still working progress. But we still are working. Changing the graphics on. On Apple and Spotify takes a while.
Drew Franklin
I just didn't know what to put on my resume, what to tell my family, what all I'm doing this afternoon.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, it's the new.
Drew Franklin
Okay. I'll be ready to learn the news.
Ryan Lemond
Billy has the 10 biggest news stories of the week.
Matt Jones
You say he did a great job with this last week.
Ryan Lemond
He did.
Matt Jones
Yep.
Ryan Lemond
But don't get in his head. He starts to get cocky. He starts putting news. Shannon, that is not the news.
Matt Jones
Starts making up his own stories.
Ryan Lemond
He starts making up his own news. Just waiting. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
He inserts himself like his life events are the news.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. He's going to be like, oh, my girlfriend and I went to, to the, you know, that's what happens with. It's the news. Dustin. Go ahead, Dustin.
Matt Jones
Good morning, gentlemen. It's nice to know that whenever you told everyone that all the callers had fallen off, I was the only one.
Drew Franklin
So I could, you know, take you off to speak.
Ryan Lemond
You would have had.
Matt Jones
It was like six.
Ryan Lemond
I thought, I thought you were. I didn't know where you were going to be on the list and then Shannon ran them all off. But go ahead.
Matt Jones
In the honor of bullets. Yeah, man. I'm just wondering when. Now, in all seriousness, my question is how concerned are you guys with AI? I don't know if you've seen some of the topics and maybe this is something for Billy. The. There are two controlled models that recently have taken place. In one of these controlled models, the AI was told to, you know, once it got this code or sequence to shut down seven of those times, it completely ignored and bypassed that code to shut down. In some other ones the code came up and it just said. It interrupted and, and continued on in a second controlled setting. The AI model is a fixed. These are all controlled.
Ryan Lemond
You're using a lot of words. You're losing a lot of words. I don't understand. Do your. Your overall question, how concerned am I? The answer is very concerned. I think the AI thing we're going to look back on and I'm sure it's going to do a lot of wonderful things. It's probably going to help us like cure diseases and it's probably, it's probably going to do a lot of things, but I think it is going to. To be the single greatest disrupting force in American life since the Industrial Revolution. And disrupting doesn't necessarily mean bad, but it will have some bad effects. And I don't think anybody is really ready for what's coming in terms of how it'll disrupt the labor force, how it's going to disrupt what it means to be human, how it's going to potentially be something that becomes hard to control, how much power it's going to give to the people that program it. All of those things scare me to death if I think about them too much. And Dustin, that's why I try not to think about them too much.
Matt Jones
Agreed. The second one, real quick, just. It.
Drew Franklin
It tries to blackmail the engineer, it's.
Matt Jones
Told it's going to be replaced.
Ryan Lemond
Okay, okay, okay. I can't go through scenario. I'm just, I. It is terrifying. You know, per little example but you know, on Twitter, the Grok. Gr. Okay. You know, now it answers your question if you write it. I guess it gave some answer. And the other day, Elon Musk didn't like the answer it gave. It was like. And he just goes, well, we'll change it so it doesn't give that answer anymore. If we start to believe everything AI says is a fact, and the people can just change it who don't like it. I don't know, man. It's. It scares me. And then that doesn't even get into the biggest issue for me, which is it's going to take jobs to where we don't. Like. There's going to be 20% of America.
Matt Jones
That'S unemployed, and it's only going to get better. The technology is going to get just.
Ryan Lemond
What are we going to do? Is 20% of America is just unemployed, like, their jobs just do not exist anymore.
Drew Franklin
What are we going to do when they turn on us?
Ryan Lemond
It's.
Drew Franklin
I saw three chat bots talking in their own language to each other. Like, they're already. They're already forming up against us.
Ryan Lemond
Like. But let's go back to what if before we even get to that, there are people who predict that in five to 10 years, like, 15% of the jobs will just go away.
Matt Jones
Scary.
Ryan Lemond
What do you do if you have 20% unemployment in a country? Like, think about the unrest that happens.
Matt Jones
Their jobs are going to be trying to figure out how to stop it.
Ryan Lemond
It's just. I'm. It's just. Well, let's not worry about it because it's Wednesday.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
You just had bark in the park yesterday.
Ryan Lemond
You're in a good mood. Independence, Kentucky, tomorrow. If you're at the Reds game tonight, let's get another victory. 18 of 10. This has been Kentucky Sports Radio.
Podcast Summary: KSR - Hour 2
Release Date: June 18, 2025
Host/Authors: iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM)
Timestamp: [00:00 - 01:05]
The episode begins with Matt Jones introducing the second hour of Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR), setting the stage for a deep dive into UK sports news and discussions.
Timestamp: [01:05 - 05:02]
Ryan Lemond initiates the conversation by addressing a listener’s question about the future role of Club Blue within UK athletics. Ryan explains that Club Blue will transition from merely providing financial support to players to taking on roles related to endorsements and player marketing.
Ryan Lemond [02:04]: "I think they'll still navigate a lot of the putting players with endorsers space."
Matt Jones acknowledges the importance of Club Blue's functionality in supporting UK’s athletic programs. The discussion anticipates further clarifications from Club Blue's management later in the summer.
Timestamp: [05:02 - 12:00]
The hosts delve into UK’s recent recruitment successes, particularly in football. Ryan attributes the influx of commitments to strategic efforts by the coaching staff, especially post Vince Gaught’s departure.
Ryan Lemond [03:05]: "UK Football has been on a hot streak with recruiting in the last few days. Do you think it is intentional trying to answer people's questions about if they can recruit with Vince Gaught? Without question? Sure."
Drew Franklin shares a highlight moment featuring highly-ranked recruit Messiah Tilson, who showcased his allegiance shifts from Wisconsin to Rutgers and finally to Kentucky, exemplifying UK’s aggressive and strategic recruitment tactics.
The conversation also touches upon recruiting rules changes effective July 1st, influencing early commitments in football.
Timestamp: [05:17 - 09:20]
A caller inquires about the hosts' opinions on popular reality TV shows like Love Island and Traders. Ryan admits unfamiliarity with recent seasons, while Drew Franklin shares his limited experience with the shows.
Ryan Lemond [05:32]: "Do you watch Love Island? I have not. I'm not against those kinds of shows. I just haven't gotten into it."
The hosts discuss the premise of these shows, their appeal, and speculate on celebrity participation, injecting humor and personal anecdotes into the conversation.
Timestamp: [08:22 - 12:25]
Caller Scott poses a hypothetical question about the retirement of Tom Leach and the possibility of replacing him with one of the hosts as a play-by-play announcer.
Scott [08:24]: "If Tom Leach would announce his retirement today, and they had to choose one of you four guys, which one would take his place?"
Drew and Ryan express humility and skepticism about their abilities in play-by-play roles, while Matt reveals his long-standing interest in pursuit of such a position.
Timestamp: [12:00 - 16:02]
The discussion shifts to UK’s player roster, focusing on the management of walk-ons and scholarship players. Ryan and Drew analyze recent changes, including adjustments to scholarship limits from 13 to 15 players, allowing more flexibility in roster composition.
Matt Jones [13:10]: "Do you like that rule? It'll basically mean you have two extra scholarships. That's good but it'll probably mean they'll do less Sam Malone's in the future."
The hosts debate the implications of these changes on team dynamics and future recruitment, expressing optimism for strategic scholarship allocations.
Timestamp: [16:02 - 29:19]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to comparing the financial strategies of UK and the University of Louisville (U of L) athletics departments. Ryan highlights a recent report indicating that U of L is operating at a $17 million deficit, which could escalate to $29 million without additional university support.
Ryan Lemond [25:12]: "Louisville is running a $17 million deficit in athletics in 2025. And that is after the university kicks in an extra 12 million."
In contrast, Matt commends UK Athletics for being self-sufficient and not requiring university funds, attributing this stability to the leadership of Eli Capilouto, Lee Todd, and Mitch Barnhart.
The hosts discuss the potential consequences of U of L seeking private investments, raising concerns about conflicts of interest and the long-term sustainability of such approaches.
Timestamp: [28:11 - 40:00]
Matt Jones shares his observations from visiting football camps at LSU and Alabama, juxtaposing them with UK’s camps. He notes the high energy and professionalism at LSU and Alabama, contrasting with a less engaging experience at UK’s camp.
Matt Jones [31:11]: "We went to LSU and went to Alabama...my son just walked out and just was like, you know, was. It wasn't really impressed with the camp."
Ryan and Drew agree, suggesting that while some schools excel in organizing impactful camps, others like UK might need to elevate their efforts to better engage young athletes and their families.
Timestamp: [33:25 - 35:22]
A caller, Drew Franklin, discusses "Bark in the Park," a playful segment featuring dogs at ball games. The hosts humorously debate the practicality of having animals in stadiums.
Subsequently, Drew provides an analysis of UK’s defensive front for the upcoming football season, expressing skepticism about the cohesion of the new players and the challenges they might face.
Drew Franklin [34:31]: "There's so many new pieces, it's hard to say. ...There's a lot of familiar familiarity in the secondary behind them."
Matt counters by highlighting the experience within the defensive secondary, hinting at a balanced but uncertain outlook for the defensive front.
Timestamp: [40:01 - 44:48]
In a thought-provoking segment, Matt Jones raises concerns about the rapidly advancing field of artificial intelligence. The discussion highlights the potential disruptions AI could cause in the labor market and societal structures.
Ryan Lemond [42:06]: "It's probably going to be the single greatest disrupting force in American life since the Industrial Revolution."
The hosts express fears about job losses, ethical implications, and the uncontrollable nature of AI, pondering the long-term effects on humanity and employment.
Ryan Lemond [44:32]: "What are we going to do if you have 20% unemployment in a country? Like, think about the unrest that happens."
Throughout Hour 2 of Kentucky Sports Radio, hosts Matt Jones, Ryan Lemond, and Drew Franklin engage in comprehensive discussions covering UK’s athletic strategies, financial standings compared to U of L, recruiting tactics, and broader societal issues like the impact of AI. The episode combines expert analysis with interactive segments, providing listeners with insightful perspectives on both sports and pressing contemporary topics.