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Welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287 text machine 772-774-5254. Let's get going here with some new stuff. First of all, the UK hall of Fame announced its class of 2025. Let's go through who we got here. We got Josh Allen is the first one. I think he's the headliner. Where would you rank Ryan? Best defensive players in UK football history. Where would you put Josh Allen? Is he, is he number one?
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Unknown
Yeah.
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I think your top three are Art Still, Dennis Johnson and Josh Allen and what order you put them in.
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Matt Jones
I'm not sure that's, that would be your top three.
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Unknown
It'd be my top three.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Art Stills that, those are a good three. I think I, I think I'd go maybe Art Still. Josh Allen did his job.
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Unknown
That's, that's pretty fair.
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Matt Jones
What about, what do we, what do you think?
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Unknown
It's Allen or Art for me there. They're on their own tier even though Dennis is just right up there with them. Although what's up, where was Dennis picked? He was really. He was.
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Matt Jones
You're thinking of Dwayne Robertson. Okay, but, but no, but it's Art still.
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Unknown
And Josh.
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Matt Jones
By the way, great story this week about Josh Allen's son.
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Unknown
Yes, it was.
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Matt Jones
Who has cancer and who's now in recovery. There's a lot of, been a lot of news reports. I think CBS did a story about him. Very nice.
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Unknown
Now it's last night. He's cancer free.
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Matt Jones
That's awesome.
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Unknown
Wesley.
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Yeah.
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Matt Jones
Seven years old. Seven years old.
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Unknown
Seven years old. Went famous when he got drafted. Took him on the stage to meet the commissioner. He was like the star of the draft, right?
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Matt Jones
Yes. And he's also ended up being a great NFL player. I mean, he's one, he's Become one of the highest paid players in the league. So Josh Allen, That's a no brainer. Let me read the other ones. Abby Cheek Ramsey. She's one of the best softball players to ever play here, right?
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Unknown
Yeah, absolutely.
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Matt Jones
I did not know who Sonia Hahn, the tennis player is. Did you?
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Unknown
Don't know much about her.
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Matt Jones
I don't know.
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Unknown
I learned last night of catching up.
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Matt Jones
Pictures in black and white. So it must be. Must have been a while. But congratulations to her. Doug Flynn. We all know the baseball player and longtime Red and then Lexington native.
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Unknown
A few people remember he played on the freshman UK Basketball team when he was here playing baseball.
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Matt Jones
I know that.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
Yes.
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Unknown
Yeah, he played baseball and basketball.
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Matt Jones
Michaela Epps, deserved. Yeah, okay. Yeah, totally. Michaela Epps. I mean, when you're talking best women's players at U. K. Valerie Steele, Ron.
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Unknown
Howard, Victoria Dunlap and Michaela Epsom, those.
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Matt Jones
Are probably the four. I mean, George Amore was really good, but only here a year. But those are probably the four. Right.
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Unknown
And when everybody else bolted, Michaela stayed here to help, you know, rebuild the program with Matthew Mitchell.
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So.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, that's exactly right. And then Carl Towns, who, let me just say, totally cool with it. Surprised though, that he's the next one in because who's in from the Cal era. You've got Davis and Wall, right?
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Unknown
Yeah, I think that might be the team that's it.
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Might be it.
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Matt Jones
I think it's Davis and Wall. I would have thought Brandon Knight would be next because I. To me, again, I love Carl and I have no problem with Carl being in. And I think one day Carl was going to be in. But like Carl wasn't even the best player on that team. Right? Willie was the best player on that team.
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Unknown
Willie almost won player of the year.
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Matt Jones
Willie was first team All American.
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Unknown
I think Willie should go before Carl.
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Matt Jones
I think Brandon Knight should go next. If you're. If you're kind of doing chronologically. Because here's the thing, you're going to have to sit and think who makes the hall of Fame from the Cal here? Because I think the UK hall of Fame has got to take a step back and say, all right, what are we going to do about the Cal here? There's so many good dudes here. And are we going to sit and talk about what they became or what they were here?
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Unknown
Right.
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Matt Jones
Because those are two different conversations with Anthony Davis and John Wall. They're easy because they check the box for both. Right?
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Unknown
Yes.
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Matt Jones
But then what are you going to do? Because you have this group of guys who were great here, Brandon Knight, Willie Cauley, Stein, Tyler Eulis, Oscar, Oscar, those are the four that kind of stick out. And then you have this other group of guys who were good to very good here, but their real impact came after. So you're talking Carl, Devin, Booker. Right. You know, Shay. Shay's a great example. What are you going to do with Shay? Like, I mean, Shay, you know, I. I don't know. And I think the UK hall of Fame has to sit and think about that. Because if it's about what you did at uk, I don't know how you can put Carl in over Willie. Right.
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Unknown
Really even put Shay in at all.
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Matt Jones
Or put. I mean, Devin Booker didn't start. I mean, the Harrison twins have a much stronger legacy here than Devin Booker.
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Unknown
If it's what you're doing here, Aaron Harrison is ahead of a lot of people.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. So I like, I think. I don't know even who's on the UK hall of Fame board. But like, when I saw Carl, I kind of wonder if what's going to end up happening is they're going to skip over the Brandon Knights of the world, which I think is a shame, because objectively, Brandon Knight was a better player than Carl Anthony Towns at Kentucky. Now, Carl was infinitely better in the NBA, but what does it mean to be a UK hall of Famer? Is it what you did here or is it what you did there? And I think that's something. They've got to figure it out and maybe it's going to be that's what you did there. And at which point we're just going to have the best NBA players of all time. But then what happens to Brandon Knight? What happens? I mean, I think Tyler Eulis will get in because everybody loves him. But Willie get in. You know, Oscar will probably get in. But I do wonder. I feel like Brandon Knight and Willie have a real chance to get passed over. And I don't think they should, but I think they might based on this.
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Unknown
I love Carl. I have several names I would put ahead of him, including Euless, Willie, Oscar, Brandon, people you've named. But I would put Eulis, Oscar and Willie way ahead of him. Those are Eulis, SEC Player of the Year and SEC Defensive Player of the Year and everything that came with it was leadership, being the little guy.
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Matt Jones
Oscar will get in because he was National Player of the Year and his.
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Unknown
Records will stand forever.
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Matt Jones
Yes.
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Unknown
Willie was consensus first team All American on the team Carl was on. Carl was second team, wasn't Even consensus.
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Matt Jones
Well, like, what about, like, Fox or Bam? Okay, Fox, Monk, and Bam. Bam was the third best of that group. But Bam's going to end up being the best pro.
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Unknown
Yes.
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Matt Jones
Do you put in Bam or do you put in Fox? Monk might have been the best college player of the group. You put in him. I don't know. I mean, I don't know what you do with those guys. And I wonder. I hope they end up having, like, a consistent way to deal with this, because I kind of don't think they will. Are you going to put in Tyrese Maxey or are you going to put in Emmanuel Quickly, who You know I mean, or are you going to put in none of them? I don't know. I don't know what you do.
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Unknown
They've got to make some exceptions somewhere, because. Or not. Who else will be there from the calera than the guys we just talked about?
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Matt Jones
You're gonna have 25 guys in if you're not careful from there.
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Unknown
My biggest complaint. Who cares? Because this hall of fame is so dumb. There's not a hall of fame. There's not even a website. They do this email once a year and have a dinner that people can't even go to. There's not a Hall of fame.
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Matt Jones
You mean they don't even have a website?
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Unknown
It's links to all the emails they send. It's just like a bullet list with.
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Matt Jones
Like, they need to fix that.
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Unknown
I mean, there's nothing honoring.
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Matt Jones
We need to have something. I mean, this is. You. Like, this is the. That's a really good point. This is the website we have.
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Unknown
It's a. It's a list of links to emails they send out.
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Matt Jones
You got to do a better whole thing. You got to do a better website than that. Like, how do you not have. That's. That's.
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Unknown
I enjoyed that.
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Ryan Seacrest
That's.
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Unknown
To pay them a compliment. The video they did with Mitch calling everybody, that was very cool. But there has to be something.
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Matt Jones
But they. Yeah, you've got to have some sort of something that makes it to where, you know, this. This athletic program is too.
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Unknown
His.
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Matt Jones
Like, too historic to not have a place. Like, if I'm any of these people, you know, if. If you. If One of the 2013 inductees has a child, they should have a place that they could go take their child to show them in the thing.
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Unknown
Now just forward them the email.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Just for. Just. And. Oh, well, mom, are you on the website? Well, here's the inductee page, but my.
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Unknown
Name'S not on they just redid Memorial Coliseum. They should have made an area over there. You know make a little hall of fame room or something.
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Understand their.
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Matt Jones
We have a whole. We have a who of fame and OVW like you can do it. It's not, it's not, you know, it's not that hard.
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Unknown
And just start with a website.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, those aren't that hard.
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Unknown
You could have that.
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Matt Jones
I wonder what you're going to do with the calorie because who should get in in the Cal era.
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Unknown
Like you said, you have a handful.
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Matt Jones
Of Davis are the easy ones.
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Unknown
Yep.
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Matt Jones
But if Carl Towns is third then I really don't sort of know what the criteria is and I, you know I think you have to wait 10 years from when you play. So that means right now the only people eligible are the contenders would be Wall, Patrick Patterson, Marcus Cousins, Brandon Knight. Who you mentioned Knight Drawn Lamb. I don't think Durant's going to get it. Anthony David, Michael Kidd. Gilchrist.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
Twins. Randall Booker, Willie, Carl. I think Carl's an odd third choice for that. I just. I do even though I love him. Just odd to me. Townsend. Go ahead. Townsend.
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Unknown
Hey, Matt. Heard it was asking the thing Thursday so I got real motivated to call. I do have a life advice question.
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Matt Jones
Okay.
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Unknown
My.
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My next door. My next door neighbors. Very kind set of ladies. They're a set of sisters, probably in about 50 years old. Whenever they mow their yard, they do not do any trimming along the sidewalk or the street. Is it rude of me for the next time I mow and trim to just kind of keep on doing it maybe with the sense of urgency down the line.
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Matt Jones
No, you mean is it rude of you? I think he was doing that. Is it rude to mow other people's yards or help Especially if it's. I think women help like the trip. I don't think it is.
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Unknown
No, I think it's. You'd be in a good name.
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Matt Jones
But do you. But that's a good. That's a great follow up. Should they ask?
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Unknown
Absolutely.
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Matt Jones
You think you should ask if you trim the sidewalk.
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Unknown
Trimming sidewalks a little bit. Some people don't want their mow yard mode. I grow mine out. My neighbor cuts it short sometimes he cuts into mine. I'm like back off. I like my grass tall.
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Matt Jones
Okay.
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Unknown
So I would check with them.
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Matt Jones
I appreciate the call. Townsend. Trimming the sidewalks. Let's say they've mowed and they just didn't trim the sidewalks. That's not like a choice. That's not like A, I like to have weeds on the side.
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Unknown
I mean, I would still tell them like a knock. Like, hey, right here. I can knock this out in 15 minutes.
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Matt Jones
That might embarrass them.
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Unknown
They may not. Their weed eater may be broken. Maybe they don't have a weed eater.
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Matt Jones
Maybe they wouldn't embarrass if somebody knocked on your door and said, hey, no.
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Unknown
Can I come grass for free?
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I would pull on the porch and watch.
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Here's a beer.
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Matt Jones
Go for it, buddy.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
So you all right? What about in my Louisville house right now? The next door neighbor seems to be refusing to mow the grass. It's like hideous.
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Unknown
Call the mayor.
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Matt Jones
Do you? But what if I'm not going to mow it? But what if the person that I get to mow it, can they just mow it then? These are old people. Like these are old people.
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Unknown
I mean, I would tell them they're going to turn you down.
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Matt Jones
But is there a choice to. I'm not going to mow my grass. First of all, you have to mow your grass.
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Unknown
Yeah, you can get a.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. So if you just did it for.
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Unknown
Them.
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Matt Jones
Like let's say it's hideous. Can you just do it?
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Unknown
There's neighborhoods all over the Lexington, every city that, that happens all the time. The neighbors grass grows so high. So somebody just gets tired of looking at it, they just go, mow it for them.
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Matt Jones
Do they? It happens a lot. Oh yeah, but what is that? I mean, like, what's the downside? Like, is somebody really going to come? No. I wanted this jungle of grass in my yard. You think they would say that?
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Unknown
No, I'm just saying if you're doing it, a simple knock while you're there to be like, hey, I'm out here.
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Matt Jones
But it might also be like some like Ryan saying there might be some like tension and why aren't you doing it? It's just easier just to do it.
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Unknown
Just to do it. Just go do it. Knock it out.
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Matt Jones
Well, as far as what he asked, the trimming, the sidewalks, I think you can just do that.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
Do you?
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Unknown
Well, they're 50 year old ladies. They didn't want to get out in the hot sun this time of year to do it.
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Matt Jones
Let me ask you another question. Do you all think when someone mows their grass and shoots the clippings onto the sidewalk that's rude?
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Unknown
Yeah, I always clean mine up.
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Matt Jones
I think that's very.
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Unknown
Get a street or something.
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I get all the way in the middle of the street and make sure.
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Matt Jones
I don't actually would just say just do it to where you shoot it back in your yard.
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Unknown
Yeah, just run your mower over the sidewalk and blow it back.
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Matt Jones
When I was walking yesterday and there were multiple sidewalks that had clippings on the sidewalk and I just think that's, I mean, again, I'm not, you know, from the Gilded Age, but I, I just think that's the most rude thing in the world to just send your clippings out onto the sidewalk.
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Unknown
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Matt Jones
So we all agree that's rude. That's rude, isn't it? Yeah.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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You got to take care of that.
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Matt Jones
If you got there, you gotta, you.
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Unknown
Gotta take care of it.
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Matt Jones
I agree. We'll take a break. 859-280-2287. This is KSR.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Matt Jones
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Ryan Seacrest
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Matt Jones
It's a great song, Shannon.
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Unknown
Yeah, Tim McGraw's got a bunch of.
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Matt Jones
Great a lot of good ones. This is probably my favorite dad. All right, so apparently Mitch Barnard last night was gave an interview where he said that the reason it's only what you did in college. So if that's the case, there's no I mean again loving but Carl's not the pit again. Let's say you have to been out for 10 years. Okay. So that means we can only get players from 2015 prior. I think you could make a strong argument that all of these guys have a better case than Carl. All right. So Wall Cousins is in too.
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Unknown
Yeah, we didn't know that.
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Matt Jones
Wall Cousins and Davis are in. Cousins got inducted the year of COVID so I guess there probably wasn't as big a announcement. Wall Cousins and Davis. Fine. All should be in. Brandon Knight should be in before Carl. Julius Randall should be in before Carl. I mean they, I would say Willie certainly should be in before Carl. There's an argument the twins should be in before Carl. If you're just talking about what they did at Kentucky. If you're only talking about what they did at Kentucky, I think there's a very strong argument that I would go Willie night. Randall for sure and twins probably.
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Unknown
I love Carl but now we know it's college only. I think I do put the twins ahead of him. They went to the final four twice. We all know Aaron's run. I mean yes, Carl number one pick, better potential, still had a great year but they had two years of leading Kentucky to the final four and let's.
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Matt Jones
Be honest for most of that season we're better than Carl now by the end I think Carl was better by the last month or two of the year. So I, I don't know. I don't know how Mitch can get up. It's about what you did in college, I guess the argument for Carl would be by the end of that year, he was really, really good. Probably the team's best player by the end of the year, and he was the number one pick.
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Unknown
But we're not counting that.
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Matt Jones
But we're not supposed to count what they did in the NBA. And a lot of times guys get picked that aren't as good as the other players because it's about NBA potential. It's not about college. So.
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Unknown
So I guess that's the argument. Carl, by the end of the season was the best player on the best team around.
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Here you go. I got it. So if you're considering draft pick, Reed was third.
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Matt Jones
Great point. Okay, so who had a better college career, Antonio Reeves or Reed Shepherd? I think you got to say Antonio Reeves. But if you're going by draft picks, Reed is the one in and Antonio Reeves is not.
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Unknown
But if the criteria is. We're not thinking about that. Anything past their last game doesn't matter.
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Matt Jones
Again, I mean, I'm not going to sit there and look at. Of all the things we have to talk to Mitch Barnhart about, what did. Why did Carl. Because I. Because it makes me sound like I don't want him to be in. I want Carl to be. And I think he actually, Carl should be in at some point because it does matter that he was the number one pick and all that, but these guys should be in before. I mean, it's just.
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Unknown
We're just trying to understand the criteria. Really.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. I don't know that I think the criteria is often what everybody in that room thinks that day.
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Unknown
Sure.
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Matt Jones
Which is. That's okay too, I guess. Marcus, Go ahead. Marcus. Marcus.
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Unknown
Yes, Matt. I'm the. I'm the die hard Duke fan that called before. I listen to about 85% of the shows and you guys obviously feel like family, even though I'm a Duke fan.
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Matt Jones
Well, thank you.
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Unknown
Just wanted to get an update. I haven't heard. I haven't heard from the great American John Short in a while and I just wanted to, you know, make sure he was okay.
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Called the pre show this morning. He's good.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. He doesn't like. John is not a holder. He does not like to hold. And so he, I think likes the pre show because they get to him.
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Unknown
He only holds for 30 minutes on the pre show.
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Matt Jones
So. So yeah, so that's. But yes. And I think also there might appreciate the call. Somebody told me there might be like some political show he likes right now. So we may have lost him for a Little.
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Unknown
He listens to our show and another political show at the same time. I don't know how he does that. Listens to two radio shows.
- [23:24]
Matt Jones
Listens to both at the same.
- [23:25]
Unknown
Yeah, I told him to dump that other radio show and just listen to us.
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Matt Jones
He'll sometimes call the pregame football and basketball.
- [23:31]
Unknown
Yeah, he does.
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Matt Jones
So. Yeah. So he. But yes, he. Thank you for asking. And had Duke fan that listens. That's kind of awesome. Who's next?
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Unknown
Let's go to Stacy.
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Matt Jones
Stacy. Go ahead, Stacy.
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Unknown
Hey, Matt. I was a security guard at rough arena for 17 years and I got to know a lot of the UK staff pretty close and they have gifted me some things and I thought maybe you might be interested in them. I'm just trying to downsize my collection. I have a team photo. Let's matted of the 82, 83 season. That's the one with the Twin towers and Skywalker.
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Matt Jones
Okay.
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Unknown
I have. I have one of the 84, 85 season, and then one of Tubby's from 98.99, which is the year after the championship. I tell you what, my question to you is, would you be interested in taking those just so I can get them to somebody who is a fan?
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Matt Jones
Sure.
- [24:29]
Unknown
Just so I can downtown.
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Matt Jones
We might. We might put one. One of them in the bar and I. I sure. I'd love to have them. I think that would be cool. If you wanna. When we reopen the bar, if you want to bring them by one day, we'd love to take them.
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Unknown
Okay, sounds great.
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Matt Jones
Appreciate it. Thank you very much. You know, most people hear the word remodel and they think of stress contractors that ghost you, prices that change halfway and results that don't look anything like what you want. But Restate Renovations is different. State Renovations gets a full team. A designer who comes in and says, we'll do this here. This here. Well, would you like this? Would you like that? That's what they say. A project manager who keeps things running smoothly. And they are Kentucky fans. But mention KSR at Estate Reno re n o s.com Estate Reno.com Reno's is in renovations. Mention KSR half off your design agreement at Estate Renovations. Just why do you look at me like that? Every time I look at you today, you look at me like. Like you're looking at a person from the moon. Is everything good with you?
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Unknown
I was anxiously awaiting the end of the road.
- [25:31]
Matt Jones
Every time. Every time I look at him today, he just was looking at me like.
- [25:36]
Unknown
He'S starstruck, like A little what is happening.
- [25:41]
Matt Jones
It's like minds on other things. When you're getting your focus on the wings tonight. What's happening?
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Unknown
All good.
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Matt Jones
Okay.
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Unknown
We're all good.
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Matt Jones
All right, Eli, go ahead, Eli.
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Unknown
Yeah. So, Matt, I was wondering about the rev share situation. Is it possible that Kentucky can just give a certain amount of money to football and a certain amount of money basketball one year and then change it the next year? I just feel like with yes. They recruits coming in, it might benefit one more than the other.
- [26:10]
Matt Jones
They can do that. And that was. And that's what they want to do. That's why Mitch apparently vetoed the secs. Like, let's assign each. To each sport is that they want to have the ability to do that. So, yes, they can. And I think that's good. I think that's a smart idea. I still think they should tell us what they spend on the teams, but I do think it's a smart idea to. I think his word was flexible, and I think that's what they're trying to be.
- [26:36]
Unknown
Yeah. All right. Well, hey, I appreciate it. Appreciate it.
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Matt Jones
Thank you. Bob in Jamestown. Can't believe I'm doing this with other. I had other. And I still went to Bob and James. Go ahead.
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Unknown
You're talking about this. It's back to urban versus rural people in the city. You know, you got.
- [26:58]
Matt Jones
All right, his phone's breaking up. Bob. You know, I go to you. I give Bob extra early time, his phone signals, and now he's out there on the lake, and it doesn't work in Jamestown. I tried. Bob. I was gonna listen to you there. I tried the one time. One time, Tom. Go ahead, Tom.
- [27:14]
Unknown
Hey, actually, I think from what Bob started about the mowing, talking about, you know, people in the city, you know, I live in a rural community, and what I would do in a situation with the neighbor, we try to, you know, know our neighbors is offer to help. You know, that's not as offensive as maybe ask them if it's okay. And then they, you know, maybe take offense because they take it wrong. You know, just simply offer if they need help and offer to help mo we eat or whatever.
- [27:45]
Matt Jones
So you're saying go up and go. Hey, I'd love to do this for you. Then go, hey, well, what's the difference between offer. Why don't. What's the difference?
- [27:55]
Unknown
Okay. If you, you know, you should know your neighbor well enough that you know them and you know what's going on. I think that's kind of what Bob is alluding to. With the city. But asking if it's okay if you do it is like they can't do it themselves.
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Matt Jones
No, I get it. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney.
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Ryan Seacrest
Call tj. He'll make him pay.
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Unknown
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortg. Here's Matt Jones.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back. Techy Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. There was a great moment here, Shannon, during the break when Ryan was talking to Mario. And Ryan goes. Ryan was talking about one of his sons. And he was like, yeah, I saw one of my sons. We saw one of my son's exes the other day.
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Unknown
It was at the Legends game. I was there.
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Matt Jones
Okay, well, okay. So when you hear that, you go. I was like, Drew, I think, says, oh, how long ago they break up?
- [28:47]
Unknown
Because I've met her several times, been together for a while.
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Yes.
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Matt Jones
Ryan goes third grade. And you consider that an ex? Like, I thought you were talking about, like, a recent ex. Like, maybe your son and his girlfriend had broken up recently. Third grade. You consider that an ex?
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Unknown
Well, the story was that was his first ever girlfriend, but it just sounds.
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Matt Jones
Weird to say X about a third grader.
- [29:10]
Unknown
Yeah, I recognized her. She walked to our server at the Legend.
- [29:14]
Matt Jones
I didn't recognize her if it was third grade.
- [29:16]
Unknown
I just recognized her. Like. Wait a minute.
- [29:18]
Matt Jones
I know you recognized her from when she was in third grade.
- [29:20]
Unknown
I've seen her a couple times since then. Like, at El Marachi, at restaurants.
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Who are you? Oh, you're Josiah's first girl. And don't you think.
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Matt Jones
But don't. Oh, was. It was. Yeah.
- [29:30]
Unknown
And everybody kind of looked at each other, and Mario looked at her. Why did he just say that? I go. I don't know.
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Matt Jones
To call a former. First of all, third graders don't even have girlfriends like that. Don't you think it's weird to call someone who's now grown an ex when they dated in third grade?
- [29:51]
Unknown
Well, it was presented as an awkward situation. That's why I thought it was the recent girlfriend or current girlfriend.
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Not current girlfriend. Third grade girlfriend.
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I didn't even know that part of the story. I thought you were talking to, like, maybe 15, 16 years old.
- [30:03]
Matt Jones
That's more. Makes more sense than third grade.
- [30:07]
Unknown
No. Little Kirsten.
- [30:09]
Matt Jones
Okay, you don't have to say her name.
- [30:11]
Unknown
I'm proud of her. She's gonna be a college athlete at Wabash Valley Junior College.
- [30:14]
Matt Jones
Serving beer at the Legends games. Now, specific.
- [30:18]
Unknown
Up to sweet six for you.
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Matt Jones
Unbelievable. I. I would like everybody tonight to just. When you when you're going to bed and you're saying your prayers, Drew, please say a prayer for Mario, because, you know, like, everybody has the people they look up to. Like, for me, David Letterman, you know, I really. Tony Kornheiser, like, Obama, you know, people like that. Then you have, like, you're. You're like Stan Musial or whatever, right?
- [30:52]
Unknown
Lou Brock.
- [30:53]
Matt Jones
Lou Brock, etc. For Mario, that person is Gilbert Arenas. Like, Mario, he watches the Gilbert arena show. He, like, has a poster of Gilbert Arenas, which is odd for a person his age to have. So, of course, yesterday, Gilbert Arenas gets arrested for, it seems like having illegal poker games with Israeli mafia people. And amongst the many charges, one of them was that he had women who would come and waitress the games and give massages. And one of the charges was not that he did that, but that he stole their tips, which I think is amazing. Like, I think it's amazing if you are running an illegal poker game with an Israeli mobster that you don't just go, well, at least I don't need to take illegally a share of their tips as well.
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Unknown
Doing enough illegal here.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, well, there's enough illegal here. You can have your whole tips.
- [31:54]
Unknown
I mean, at that point, you might as well just double down. And I feel like that's what he did.
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Matt Jones
I think that's what he did. So he gets arrested. This is federal. This is the Department of Justice. This is federal charges. These are serious charges. Then he gets out of jail, posts a video of him dancing and saying, you can't hold me down. Generally speaking, I don't think taunting the government after you have been arrested is the best idea. I mean, I. You know, it's not the best idea. I've never seen anyone sadder than Mario this morning. Like, it has been. What do we. What do we say? You know, they say, don't meet your heroes. What do you do when your heroes are throwing illegal poker games with Israeli massages and stealing tips?
- [32:35]
Unknown
Talk to him through the glass. Mario. I saw it pop up. You know, when you, like, see news break and it's got, like, two views on Twitter. It's like you're. You're the one that gets to tell everybody. I knew in that moment the responsibility I had to let Mario know.
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Matt Jones
And it hurt.
- [32:46]
Unknown
It hurt.
- [32:47]
Matt Jones
So come on the microphone here for a second. Mario, are you all right? I'm okay. I'm hanging. This had to be hard, though. This is like. This is like your. This is your guy. I'm wondering if he does go to prison, do they still do Gil's Arena? Like, I don't think they let him know. I don't think they let you. I don't think you. They let you stream Gills Arenas from federal prison. I don't know the rules of the federal prison. He's going to. I doubt they let you keep a live YouTube show. I guess somebody gotta take it over then. You are bummed, though. You tell people how much you watch Gill's Arena. It is my. Like, I like to put it on in the background, like, whenever I'm doing stuff. Like, if I'm working. Would you say it's your favorite show? It's one of my top favorite YouTube shows. Club Five Twenties up there. I would say Gills arena is like A. In first place. Club 525 second place.
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Unknown
I shared a hotel room with him coming back from Milwaukee and we watched several hours of Gills Arena.
- [33:42]
Matt Jones
I like that. You think he could conceivably do it from federal prison? I'm going to tell you that's highly unlikely.
- [33:48]
Unknown
So I like that the DOJ website listing all the charges and stuff, at the top it says NBA star Gilbert Arenas, AKA Agent Zero. Like, they included that.
- [33:57]
Matt Jones
They put AKA Yeah, I got his nickname in there. All right. So I hope everything goes all right with you. The other thing that I found amazing, Shannon. I don't normally care about celebrity relationships. I actually date whoever you want. Right. But I saw a celebrity relationship yesterday that fascinated me.
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Unknown
Okay.
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Matt Jones
Liam Neeson.
- [34:18]
Unknown
Yeah, I know.
- [34:19]
Matt Jones
He's dating Pamela Anderson. Now, Pamela Anderson has gotten some good publicity because she was in a movie last year where she almost got nominated for an Oscar called, like, the Last Showgirl. Apparently it's very good. I haven't seen it. But they are dating. Age appropriate.
- [34:37]
Unknown
Yes.
- [34:38]
Matt Jones
Right. They're like, she's a lot older than you probably think in her head.
- [34:41]
Unknown
My age.
- [34:42]
Matt Jones
Yeah. But if I told you, Shannon, in 1993, that the star of Schindler's List would be dating the star of Baywatch, would you have imagined that? No.
- [34:57]
Unknown
This is the oddest Hollywood couple since Billy Bob Thornton and Angelina Jolie. I mean, it just does not seem like these two should be dating. But you know what? I'm happy for Liam. I mean, well, they both.
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Matt Jones
I think now they both. I mean, look, if you didn't know their backgrounds, you can see them together. Like, they look fine together. But it is crazy. Like, I always thought of him before he started doing all the Fallen series and all that. I always thought of him as this, like, serious actor. And Then you have Baywatch. So I'm kind of rooting them on. I was shocked they were dating, but I think it's kind of cool.
- [35:35]
Unknown
They're doing this movie together, right? This new movie.
- [35:39]
Matt Jones
They are naked. The new Naked Gun.
- [35:40]
Unknown
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
There's a new naked.
- [35:43]
Unknown
And they're one of my favorite franchises ever. Yeah. They're both in it. I'm rooting for them to get a little serious. People are kind of being mean to Pamela because she doesn't really wear makeup and stuff, and she's just living her life. I kind of respect that.
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Matt Jones
Good for. Yeah. People are mean.
- [35:57]
Unknown
Like, look at mentions on some of these stories. People are awful about how she looks. I'm like, go, Pamela. If you don't want to make up, don't wear makeup. And then Liam, he lost his wife tragically, like, 15 years ago, and was. Has not been in a good place in that. And he. I saw a little interview he had.
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Matt Jones
Be happy.
- [36:13]
Unknown
I'm rooting for both of them.
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Matt Jones
I'm with you. When people get on women for not wearing makeup, I would argue they're more comfortable in who they are. Like, why do you feel like you gotta look likes other people want?
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Unknown
And I. I was a big fan of Pam and makeup. Don't get me wrong. I grew up in the Pam era, but I also love the current Pam.
- [36:31]
Matt Jones
And I'm rooting for, as she is, like, our childhood. I don't know about you. Who were the women that were.
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Unknown
I owned a Barbed Wire on dvd.
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Just want to throw that out the plot, do you?
- [36:42]
I don't think anyone owned that movie on dvd. Yeah. Big Pam fan.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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I worked at a. At a DVD store. I had a lot of DVDs.
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Matt Jones
So who was, like, for, like, from when I was younger? If you were to say we were talking about this the other day on my podcast where I was like, when I was young, if you were to say Rich, the name Donald Trump is what people said. And then it became like, Bill Gates.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
And now it kind of is Elon Musk. Right. That's what you. When you just think the word rich. When I was young, the question of who is hot? It was really like Cindy Crawford and Pamela Anderson. When you say Shannon, those were, like, the names at the top of the list. You would have said Cindy Crawford, Pamela Anderson. So it's just crazy to me that the guy who was on Schindler's List.
- [37:34]
Unknown
And she goes from Tommy Lee to.
- [37:36]
Liam Neeson, there was Kid Rock in the middle.
- [37:39]
I just mean from the bookends here.
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Matt Jones
I didn't think about that. Tommy Lee, Kid Rock and Liam Neeson.
- [37:45]
Unknown
Liam Neeson, the same guy. Basically.
- [37:47]
Matt Jones
It's like Chuck Schumer next.
- [37:51]
Unknown
I always say the heart wants what it wants.
- [37:52]
Matt Jones
The heart here. All right. There you go.
- [37:55]
Unknown
Those young kids could make it.
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Matt Jones
Austin, go ahead. Austin.
- [37:57]
Unknown
You want to talk to Bob in Jamestown again? He's.
- [37:59]
Matt Jones
No, I do not. Austin, go ahead.
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Unknown
Name is never brought up. He played on a final four team and a national championship team and he was a great player on both teams, but nobody ever. Mitchell, who did you say?
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Matt Jones
I'm sorry.
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Unknown
Terrence Jones.
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Matt Jones
You know, I mean he is often. That's a really, that's a really good point. I mean, I appreciate the call. Would you say Terrence Jones had a better college career than Carl Towns?
- [38:27]
Unknown
I mean, we think of Davis and Gilchrist as that title team, but who knows without Terrence on that coming back.
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Matt Jones
Jones, season one, Final four, second best player on that team. Season two national championship, second or third best player on that team.
- [38:47]
Unknown
All sec first team.
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You make a good argument for it. We didn't even mention him in our list of players.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, he, you know, he's, that's a, that caller makes a good point. Terence Jones, when we're talking about underrated guys because I, because I always think of teams by their best players and I always go wall cousins. I kind of almost lump them together. Brandon Knight, Anthony Davis, Nerlen's Noel Twins, Randall. I kind of put the 2015 team as a group.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
But I'm skipping Terrence Jones in that and that is a little unfair. He deserves to be named, doesn't he?
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Unknown
I kind of ashamed of myself for not even thinking of that. I mean he had a great two year run and he's. When he decided to come back, he was projected really high in that draft. That was a rare second year situation too. Like I said, who knows, maybe they don't win the title if they don't have him coming back that next year. I mean as special as Davis was a big part of that.
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Matt Jones
No great point. 859-280-2287 we will take a break. Be right back.
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Matt Jones
It is Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287. DraftKings you can go to DraftK Bet 5 with $150 in bonus bets. There are three things I'm going to get you picked tonight. First of all, reds Braves opening. Shannon will be there. Reds are the favorite minus 115. What do you got?
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Unknown
Give me the Braves taking the Reds.
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Gotta go Braves, Reds Braves stink.
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What's the matchup that we know?
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Matt Jones
It's we got Andrew Abbott and y' all got some random Carrasco or Carrasco. Yeah, we got our best pitcher. You all don't but the Dodgers had their best pitch last night and we won the TBT semifinals are tonight really the Final Four. Final Four. Let's start with the West. Wichita State aftershocks former Wichita State's players. But next playing we are D3 former D3 players.
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Unknown
Poor TBT with this matchup.
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Matt Jones
Well they did Wichita though. I mean they're gonna have a big.
- [43:10]
Unknown
Banking on La Familia versus the Ville in the last early this week.
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Greg Marshall's wife, will she be there?
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Matt Jones
I don't know who you pick.
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Unknown
I'm going after shocks.
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I'm going after shocks in the shockers.
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Matt Jones
I'm taking. We are D3. Come on. Finally. Eberlin Drive who beat us.
- [43:26]
Unknown
Yes.
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Matt Jones
On the last play is in Charleston to play best Virginia. Former West Virginia players with Trey Mitchell. With Trey Mitchell.
- [43:36]
Unknown
I'll go best Virginia because I think they're hosting.
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Matt Jones
They are.
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Unknown
I'm gonna go Eberland Drive. They got all the Kentucky kids that Terry Taylor from Bowling Green Meat Law familia.
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Matt Jones
Then you're. You're good. I'm taking Overland Drive. Yes. All right. There you go. 859-280-2287 before I go the phones real quick. One big piece of news I know everybody's waiting for. Gilded Age got renewed for season four.
- [43:58]
Unknown
Nice.
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Matt Jones
So that's good. It's going to be. It's going to be exciting for everybody.
- [44:03]
Unknown
I still have it on my watch list. I haven't had a chance to get.
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Matt Jones
A watch but I'm gonna.
- [44:06]
Unknown
I'm gonna be binge watching.
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Matt Jones
Jimmy Fallon had all the cast on the really night this season has been a very highly watched. Even Meryl Streep's daughter.
- [44:15]
Unknown
She was on there.
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Matt Jones
She's. She's a dud. But everybody else. Everybody else and Shannon. The WWE behind the scenes documentary you're going to watch that the unreal didn't.
- [44:25]
Unknown
Even know it existed on Netflix.
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Matt Jones
They basically. They do it essentially what we did with wrestlers they did with the WWE between Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania.
- [44:33]
Unknown
Look at us.
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I saw some of it.
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Matt Jones
It's really cool.
- [44:35]
Unknown
We are trailblazers. We started this whole thing on Netflix.
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Matt Jones
I mean apparently came Triple H was apparently on. I did not hear but he was on like the. The show that Bubba Ray hosts the radio show or whatever. He was apparently on there and said that when they watched wrestlers it made him decide they ought to do it with wwe.
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Unknown
Really.
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Matt Jones
So that's kind of cool.
- [44:56]
Unknown
That is cool.
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Get a little kickback.
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Matt Jones
I haven't seen any money, so it is neat.
- [45:02]
Unknown
They do things that wrestling never would have considered.
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Matt Jones
They show the room yeah. They show the writers room, Shannon. They show that Triple H goes, who should win the Royal Rumble? And everybody says, who? And then they argue about, see, those.
- [45:13]
Unknown
Are things they would never do. Back the curtain first.
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Matt Jones
Before we did, we pulled back the curtain. We shot. We showed me and Craig saying, we have no money. You all understand. There's no money at all.
- [45:28]
Unknown
There's a really cool scene where the Rock and Triple H are trying to figure out how the Rock's going to come in with, like, Cody Rhodes and stuff. He's like, should I hit him or my presence going to be enough? And it's really just neat, them figuring out how they're going to bring the Rock in.
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Matt Jones
Cool stuff. Let's go to Drake. Go ahead, Drake.
- [45:43]
Unknown
Yeah, Just a quick question, then I'll hang up and listen. Is there a rule against people who declare early for the NBA to come back to college? There's not. Why don't we see more of that?
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Matt Jones
Well, yeah, no, I mean, people do come back. We declared for the draft and came back.
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Unknown
No, no, no, no. I mean, like, if they go to the actual NBA. So say DeMarcus Cousins wanted to play for Kentucky. What rule stops him from coming back to do that since he still has eligibility? Technically. Now, any.
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Matt Jones
It. Technically, under the current MCA rules, if you have been paid to play basketball outside of the NCAA system, you are not allowed to play college basketball. Now, there are people who've tried to challenge that. They have lost those challenges, but. But that is why.
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Unknown
So the foreign guy we got coming in now, he wasn't paid to play.
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Matt Jones
Well, they make an exception for foreigners or they. And that. Remember Ennis, that's why Enos didn't get to play. But the rule has been changed to allow you to have played overseas as long as it was in a. Appreciate the call. As long as it was in, like, a developmental role or. There's a. There's a wording they use. But it was basically, I would say it's the Ennis Cantor rule. I think they changed it after Ennis Cantor.
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Unknown
Yeah, we had Ennis. It was like, absolutely not. Then you get Big Z, who'd played a lot of pro ball, and, I mean, it took a while to get him, but he was also.
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Matt Jones
Basically, they just said, you can't play pro ball in America.
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Unknown
Overseas you get paid fine.
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Matt Jones
And. But overseas, you have to be in, like, a developmental academy. So, like Terrence Jones. Well, who's an example of somebody that left here and didn't play in the pros, but was overseas? Derek Willis. Well, no, Derek played in the pros. Anybody we have that went straight overseas, played a lot. And point being, they couldn't come back and play whoever that would be if you thought of somebody like that. John, go ahead. John.
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Unknown
Quick question on football, Matt. If we lose one of those first four to one of our cupcakes, is Duke's gone and should he be?
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Matt Jones
Well, first of all, we only play three cupcakes and we don't play them all at the beginning of the year, we play Tennessee Tech. Yeah, I know.
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Unknown
Okay. And then, then the other, the other quick question is for Drew. Drew, how serious are you about finishing your Weller collection?
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Matt Jones
Appreciate the call or. Hang on.
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Unknown
I'm very serious. Didn't you call me a week ago about this?
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I did. Take my number. Call me, I'll hook you up.
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All right.
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Matt Jones
Shannon, get giving number to Shannon. Appreciate the call.
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Unknown
I'll have my people reach out to your people.
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Matt Jones
When you get these bourbons, do you drink them or just look at them? Them.
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Unknown
My rule is I try to have two of something now. I mean, if I want to try them, open it. I'm not. Someone just looks at it. But I usually try to have two bottles if it's something that's hard to get before I open one. But no, I, Yeah, some people obtain them and just look at them. That's not me. I try.
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Matt Jones
Hung up before he could give you his number, by the way.
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Unknown
Well, all right.
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Matt Jones
There you go, Billy. Go ahead, Billy.
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Unknown
Hey, guys. I'm with me guys for a long time. Heard all your conversations about the Kentucky players and all that. I haven't noticed that y' all mentioned. I haven't mentioned one person he was on the 97 team and I firmly believe that if he had been able to play that year. They don't want a three piece. It's Derek Anderson.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I mean, I, you can make a case for Derek Anderson. I appreciate the call. I don't, I, I, I don't know that he'll get in, but like, you could make a case for it.
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Unknown
He had a great run, you know, the 96, 97 year. Absolutely. If he plays, they do matter.
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Matt Jones
I do kind of wonder though, if dudes from that era, if they haven't gotten in yet, is it just not going to happen?
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Unknown
He said plenty of opportunities. You'd think.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Because now they got this whole long list of stars coming.
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Unknown
Although Tony Delk didn't feel that long ago.
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Matt Jones
He did. He just got his jersey. But he was the Hall.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Because the jerseys what, 10 years after the hall of fame?
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Unknown
I think something like that.
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Matt Jones
You can't get your jersey retired now though. Like maybe it's 15 years, 20 years after you're done. So it's a long time time, which I think is good, by the way, so you don't make rush judgments.
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Unknown
Right.
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Matt Jones
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