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Matt Jones
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Drew Franklin
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F
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F
Comedy Off Broadway in Lexington welcomes Jeff Allen and his clean comedy show July 31st through August 2nd. Then from Kill Tony and Bad Friends, Catch Jesse jet ski Johnson August 7th through the 9th and don't miss Lexington faith favorite Ms. Pat August 15th and 16th. Her shows are sure to sell out. For tickets to all comedy Off Broadway shows, call 859-271-joke or visit comedyoff broadway.com.
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Matt Jones
Comedy.
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E
This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.
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F
Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Wednesday, August 13th. I am Matt Jones here we are 13 days away from opening KS Bar are 16 days set 1619 days. No 17 days from kickoff to college Kentucky's college football season. Matt Jones, Drew Franklin Shannon the dude we were sitting in here which by the way we're sponsored by Clark's Puppet shop. If the 859-280-2287 Avion Auto Glass Text Machine 772-774-5254 this edition sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office you call TJL make them pay the just to give you a little behind the scenes. Everyone here is trying to make it look this studio look presentable for the NFL podcast. And it's. It's. I don't know. First of all, I don't know who lit this room. This loom room was lit by somebody who's never been on a television screen at any point. They have the light Shannon right above our heads.
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E
They look to be white lights too.
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F
Like the cool colored. Like literally they. They make everyone's face look. Think about the worst version of yourself in the mirror. This seems to be designed to look like that. You know in TV they teach you keep the light in front of you facing you a little bit like to make you flush. This is over our head. Behind us we look like we're dead. And this was designed. This isn't even that old. This was designed like this.
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Drew Franklin
This is the new studio. I do like that. I heart is putting more into us looking good than me and you put into ourselves actually looking good.
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F
What are you talking about? No use Moisturizer.
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Drew Franklin
I do too. I got a little on but I mean they're really working hard and here we are with our hoodies on.
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F
They're trying to fix what was the worst lit. I mean I'm not gonna say which one. But everybody knows there's a TV station in town that is one notch below the others.
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Drew Franklin
They're trying.
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F
They try like Ricky Steamboat. They try really hard. They do the best they can. I all one thing that would help them is if they would like the thing correctly. Same thing here. This is terrible. But they're trying to fix it. Mario's Mario and Nathan and Billy, they've got things hanging everywhere. But we really just need to tear this place down and start over, don't you think?
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Drew Franklin
Brand new building in downtown Lakes.
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F
I mean there's Shannon. There's five TVs in here. Only one is even hooked hooked up to the inner like to cable or. Or like four of these TVs have never been turned off.
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E
I see a black screen behind you right now. Right behind your head.
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F
This thing can't get any channel so it just reflects light. It's just terrible.
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Drew Franklin
I've only seen this Roku screensaver fish tank.
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F
The only thing that's ever on this table is Pat McAfee or that or that fish. I know these fish.
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Drew Franklin
I know their names. I know when they bounce off the corners.
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F
Designed this thing. Failed architecture school. Hopefully it gets fixed in the next two weeks, we got. We have a lot to talk about. Let's start first before I get to the big news. Allen Cutler said you could kiss his ass, Shannon. And I think you, I think you have to respond to that because you're being called out to a fight by 71 year old man.
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E
Nor do I care. I'm currently suffering from a failure to give a damn about anything that Allen Cutler says.
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F
Now he said that you could kiss. Kisses his a.
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E
He's getting really feisty. I mean, I don't care Again, I don't care what Adam Allen is. Adam Allen. Adam Cutler says I don't care.
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F
I tried to listen to his thing. I listened to a couple of minutes and all I heard him was say that you were the worst and Drew was the best. And then.
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Drew Franklin
Someone texted me. It says, shannon, you can kiss my ass, Drew, I like you tremendously. In one breath. That's what he said.
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E
I'm glad that he's got two listeners, both you and Drew.
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F
I didn't, I just heard the first couple minutes. Um, but anyway, I thought that was funny and I wanted you to be more to be upset. I can tell, I can see your face. You are upset.
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E
I'm not upset.
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F
You might see but at an event soon, maybe a game, maybe you two.
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E
Will fight opening a KS bar.
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F
He'll talk too much. We could not do that. Be like when Captain Suntan threatened me at that game, remember that I was.
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Drew Franklin
Going to have to get between you two.
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F
They walked up to me at the Kentucky Louisville football game and he was like, so do you want a piece? And I was like a pie I don't eat. But you know, then I, I walked away.
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E
I mean somebody significant to say something bad about me, then I might care.
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F
That's what I'll tell Kirk Herbstream to, to give you a message.
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Matt Jones
There you go.
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F
All right, so let's start with what I mean I think is the most important piece of news. It broke during the show yesterday and it's that UK and JMI have signed a 15 year deal for $465 million. Just start right there. That's a lot of money. That's $30.3 million or no, 30, $31 million a year. So that's a lot of money. Um, you know, I, I, I, I, as one person explained to me, this takes care of our Rev share. And so as you're sitting here and you're balancing the pros and the cons, start with the pro. The Rev share is now paid for, by the way, what I would say is when I start hearing UK raise other prices because of the rev share, I want you to remember that one of the things that was explained to me yesterday is the rev share is now paid for. So as as costs of other things go up, remember the rev share is paid for by this. Just something to think about. That's good. But I do think this is going to be an extremely important change for the future of UK sports. And I sort of spent the last 24 hours kind of in my mind weighing the pros and the cons and I tend to come out of it pessimistic. Not apocalypse like, not that I think the apocalypse is coming, not that I think it's the worst thing ever. But I'm pessimistic and I will explain to you why I'm pessimistic. Now you can be pessimistic and it's still things can be good. I was pessimistic about Mitch Barnhart leading us into the Nile era. And while it was a slow start, I think he finished pretty well. But I'm pessimistic about this for a number of reasons. But let me first explain to you what has happened. So JMI is now in charge of two important things. One is they are now in charge of doing the quote unquote contracts for the athletes. Now what does that mean of the $20.6 million? Every coach will be given a certain amount of money that they are able to divvy up, let's say. So let's say that Mark Stoops is told you will have $15 million, Mark Stoops and the people on his staff and that will include, I think it includes like a football GM decide how they're going to spend that $15 million. You know, it's up to them and they can decide who's worth what. But let's say they decide Drew Franklin is worth $1 million. Drew Franklin may be demanding $2 million. That's where JMI will come in and have to negotiate that other million. As a practical phase, I would just say to people this will come up with every good player. I actually think this JMI thing is going to be bigger for basketball than football because it will be the basketball players that will demand more money than what the Rev share gives. Does that make sense? I think most football players, what they get in the Rev share will be their primary source of money for basketball. So I kind of see JMI is now being like 80% of a basketball GM, by the way. That's what Club Blue was. Club Blue did most of their work in basketball. They did a little football, but it was mostly basketball. So I think what JMI is going to be doing is mostly basketball, which is why I'm a little nervous. So that's part one of their job. The second part of their job is when they get these guys, let's say they need a million dollars, they're going to have to co come up with it. Now I was very worried yesterday that JMI was essentially locking these players in that if you signed with UK you couldn't do your own outside deals. I'm told that's not the case. So that makes me feel better.
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Drew Franklin
That was a big concern.
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F
That was my big concern. One of my big concerns. That makes me feel better. There will still be some athletes who will have the ability to do their own thing. That's good. But it's still going to ultimately be JMI's responsibilities to negotiate the deals and to go and find the money. Here's why that concerns me and this is hard for me to talk about because JMI works with our station. I come on after the post game show. But if you go through history here, JMI and UK have a relationship that is very unique. JMI only does the media rights for three major schools. Kentucky, Notre Dame and ucla. They have a lot of small schools, but they're the only ones they do the major schools for. They work with a couple of other schools that name in their stadiums and stuff. But when it comes to being the primary media sponsor for a college, it's just uk, Notre Dame and ucla. Guess how many schools JMI is taking on the role of being the nil group for? None.
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Drew Franklin
We're the only one.
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F
We're the only one. We are the only school in the country that will have a relationship like this with jmi. Is that going to work? We'll see. How many schools are doing this period? Well, Learfield, that's who does the broadcasting for Louisville. They have a lot of schools. They've got like 50. How many schools are they doing it for? Three. Georgia, Ohio State and Texas. Now those are pretty good schools. Learfield is taking on this role. JMI is with those schools. But what worries me is A Learfield's good and B those schools are still keeping their private collectives. We are the only school that I can find who is getting rid of their private collective and giving it all to one company. And we're giving it to one company who doesn't have any other schools. So the caller who worried, well, what if it's UK or ucla? How do they decide? UCLA is still doing their own thing. They're not letting JMI do it. So that's a lot of faith in one company, wouldn't you agree?
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Drew Franklin
Oh, yeah.
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F
Let's say it was the best company in the world. That's a lot of faith. I have had a complaint for a long time. If you've listened to the show, you know, it's not unique. I've had a complaint that I don't think JMI is up to date on everything. All you got to do is listen to the postgame show. You know, privately. They banned Drew from coming on the field. They didn't credential like they were a big part of Mario not getting credential. These are little things about ksr, but how do you look at today's modern world and go, the social media creator for the biggest website shouldn't have a media credential. You do it by being behind the times. Right. I worry is this company that still sends us cease and desist letters for putting on ksr, UK plays Ole Miss and using the UK logo, is this the company that's going to understand modern nil deals? I worry about? We travel to all kinds of schools across the country. Let me be very clear about this. And I said this to someone at UK yesterday, so I'm not talking out of school. Uk, of all the schools I've visited in the major conferences, is more behind on modern media, dealing with modern media than any other school that we deal with. When it comes to media relations, UK gives less access to us than even the schools that we're the road team for. I can go to Tennessee and I can go to Louisville and they'll give me more access than when I'm in Rupp Arena. Now, why should you care about that? You probably shouldn't, except the people that were making those decisions are now making all the decisions. As I said on social media, UK Athletics is now JMI and JMI is now UK Athletics. Will it work? I hope so. I wrote the CEO or the CEO of JMI and I said, hey, would you like to talk this week? She said, yes. So I will do that and I will recommend what I think and she can feel free to ignore it or whatever, but I'm concerned because the thing that has always been the best to me about UK sports is obviously the games, but we've been pretty good at the business side of things, wouldn't you agree? And in this nil era, by having the people that they were doing the contracts before, I think we had pretty smart people doing it. The weakness has always been to me, the modernization to the new world of media. Well, now the people that were in charge of that are in charge of everything. And that worries me. Is it fixable? Sure. Are there smart people there? Sure. Are there nice people there? Sure. But we are giving what I think is the hardest thing for a basketball and football program to do, recruit players. That's the hardest thing to do. We are now essentially turning a huge part of that over to a private company. And it worries me. It would worry me if I was a Learfield school. And it probably worries them too because they're still keeping their private collectives. But we now have no fallback plan. If JMI is not good, we're not going to get players. If they are, maybe it still will work. I can tell you I had multiple people write me from other schools and go, you should be a little worried about this. I'm talking coaches from like other SEC schools. I think it's nerve wracking. Now they're going to get a ton of money. I'm going to guess UK is going to get more money from their local media deal than probably any school in the country. That's good. Some of the worries we've had about are we going to have the revenue to compete? That's probably taken care of. So that's good. But are we going to be able to be in a world where the rules, Drew, can change overnight? We are locked into a 15 year deal with JMI and the one thing I've always worried about them is are they modern? That's where I am on it. That's my concern. That's my, I don't say frustration, but that's my worry is and I'll finish with this. I use this example. This is just in the realm of media. But listen to the example I'm using and then move it to recruiting. The Kentucky Derby this year invited 50 TikTok influencers to come and have all access to the Derby. Why did they do it?
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Drew Franklin
Because it's the future new and younger audience.
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F
Drew and I are being invited to go to the super bowl, the NFL playoffs, the combine, all the draft, all of that with access from the NFL, right schools like an Ole Miss, etc. Their media is allowed to go to practice. What happens at Kentucky right now? We couldn't get Mario a credential. Drew has to stand outside instead of being on Rupp Arena. No media gets to see anything. I look at how these other schools are adapting to the modernization of the world and I think UK is far behind. Now. That's going to be everything. It's not just going to be media, it's going to be recruiting, it's going to be fan interaction, it's going to be tickets. I don't know how you can't be a little bit nervous about that. 859-280-2287. We'll take a break. Be right back.
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Matt Jones
KSR the reviews and ratings are in and Ice Cube's big three is the surprise hit of the summer. This Saturday, 4pm Eastern on CBS, with playoff elimination on the line, the stars will be flocking to Los Angeles to witness the most physical, fiercest and competitive basketball in the world. Miami's Michael Beasley and Lance Stevenson must win over Houston to make the playoffs, reeling from last week's savage beating at the hands of Chicago's possessed Montrez Harrell. Last time these teams met, Miami beat Houston, but they are a dangerous team having their manhood at stake. Then breakout star Dwight Howard of the LA Riot will battle Gary Payton's Boston squad in a do or die match for both teams. Will LA avenge their previous shocking loss to perennial basketball Boston rivals? To survive, six teams are allowed for for four spots and all must win. Don't miss the big three, the 3 on 3 basketball league everyone is talking about. There's no crying in the big three and the no hold spot action starts Saturday at 4pm Eastern, 1pm Pacific, followed by two games on Vice starting at 6:30 Eastern. Presented by iHeart.
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Drew Franklin
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F
Is that what you say to Alan?
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E
That's right. All right, is it filter or no filter involved? Do I get a filter at least?
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F
I think I'll let you have a filter.
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E
Okay.
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F
We don't need, we don't need any diseases being passed. Pass back and forth. One person writes Matt. Okay, a lot of that sounds bad. Most positive thing, the money. It's a lot of money. Huge lot of money. Probably takes away one of the, if not the biggest concern going into the nil air, which is do you have the money to compete? UK now has the money to compete. At least they have the Rev share portion. Whether they have the donor portion, we'll wait and see. But they have the Rev share portion. So that's a. Another person says, Matt, it sounds like your relationship with UK is broken. They're done with ksr. I don't think that's necessarily true. My, my relation, our relationship with UK has been good. Our relationship with JMI has been bad. UK has been pretty good to us over the years. But they, on the media side, they had to do what JMI said and, and that has generally been bad. Um, I'm hoping it's better. I'm glad they're going to meet meet with me, but it's not about us. I'm just using us as an example to show you problems that I think are going to happen with things that have nothing to do with us. So let me just give you one theoretical problem and I promise I'm going to let Drew talk because Drew has sat there silent.
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Drew Franklin
No, it's good. I could have slept in.
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F
I'm, I'm recruiting Mario. Okay. For basketball. Let's say that. And it's down to Kentucky and Yukon. UConn has come in and said, we are going to give you three and a half million dollars of our Rev Share money because we can do that because we ain't spending any money on football. And Kentucky comes in and they just can't give three and a half. But they can give two and say we'll get you the other one and a half through nil deals. Okay. JMI goes out. JMI is only allowed to negotiate deals with UK official partners. How much can you ask of Drake's and Paul Miller Ford? At some point, though, they're not going to be able to keep doing it. And if we don't have a private nil group, a collective to do it, what's going to happen? We're probably going to lose Mario. Right, because we're making it to where only one entity can officially do it and they can only work with the partners they have. So where we getting this money? Which means we're going while everybody else has their private collectives that are coming together. We're still trying to go through a corporate structure that by its very nature limits the amount of people that it can talk to. How much money can you ask from Morgan and Morgan? And then let's say the school needs money for a soccer stadium, but we want to get Mario the player. It's the same entity drawing money for both of them. That's a problem, in my opinion. And if it was such a great idea, why is no other school doing it? And why are the schools that are doing it with Learfield giving themselves an out by keeping their private collectives? I think that's a fair worry, Drew.
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Drew Franklin
Absolutely. And it comes at a time where everyone saw, certainly on the basketball side, where the previous model, they just bailed, put together one of the best rosters in the country. There was never more confidence in UK's nil operations than this spring when Pope was out there navigating the portal, bringing players back. So right when you think, all right, maybe we've got this thing figured out in Kentucky's going to be rolling, you hand it over to JMI and it's back to, well, I mean, we hope they can pull it off, and if they do, it will work out, having it in house. But I mean, people, as you've said, fans, not a high approval rating for them on media as it is. And now you're giving them control of everything.
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F
I won't bore you with the legalities, but the other thing about this deal is it assumes Congress is going to pass legislation. If Congress passes legislation, this can work. If they don't, it won't. Who has faith in Congress? Shannon, is that you with your hand up?
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E
No, I don't have my hand up.
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F
Well, I think this deal, if Congress doesn't pass something, just doesn't work. All right, I won't do this. The whole show, we'll take calls right for this ksr. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call tj. He'll make him pay.
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E
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.
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F
That's what you do have to have. You're exactly right about that.
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E
Yeah.
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F
Takes a lot of my work. One person writes, Matt, that is what your complaints are, why JMI doesn't want to deal with you. Maybe if you would be more positive, things would be better. I'm sure it would. But, like, if you just want the official word, just read the press release. You know, I mean, when the, when, when, when the White House issues a statement, do you think that's the whole truth, no matter who the president is? No, it's what they read the White House official statement and go, well, that's the proof. That's all I needed.
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Drew Franklin
All right, next next topic is what.
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E
They want you to hear.
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F
Andy Beshear, tell me what you think. Well, I'm good. Like, you gotta have critical thinking skills, and this show is just me telling you my opinion. You can feel free to disagree, but if you want the official word, I believe there are shows that do that and, and, and they'll come on and then you can, you, you can make that decision. But the goal, the goal is to, to get some understanding. 859280, 2287. Last thing. Are you. Are you, like, overall, do you. Are you more positive about it than I am?
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Drew Franklin
The JMI situation? Yeah, no, I'm more positive than I was yesterday when I learned that they can still get some outside. That was my probably biggest concern, because right now more than ever, you're looking at a Stokes from Kentucky who's one of those dudes that you really want to go out and get. And if they were to miss out on him because JMI is still figuring out what they're doing, I think that'd be an issue. But the fact that they can still step out gives me a little more optimism than yesterday. But overall, I still don't have a ton of faith.
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F
Stokes will be their first test. I'm glad. That's a good way to put it. Stokes will be their first test, and it's not just on them. I mean, Mark Pope might not be able to get Stokes, or Stokes might just want to go somewhere else. Like, I'm not saying one player says the whole thing, but the first test of can you create a deal that makes it to where Stokes wants you to. Makes it to where a player. What? Stokes will be the first test of that, I don't think it definitively answers the question either way, but I think it's a good. I think that's a really good point. I think it's a good initial.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, he could choose the other schools.
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F
He could. But if they were to pick us. And it's still a problem, but I think it's a good first take.
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Drew Franklin
The worst case scenario is he goes somewhere else and we get quotes like, they just couldn't meet my number or something like that.
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F
That would be bad.
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Drew Franklin
Then that's where our concern.
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F
Because money is not an excuse anymore on the Rev Share piece, because we've got it. The excuse now is, can you make it work? And you know what? If they would just hire all the Club Blue people and bring them to jmi, then I'd be like, we're good. But those people don't want to do that. And so they're not going to. So we'll see. All right, we got people on the phone. I want to talk about some interesting things as well, but let's go to a couple of these people on the phone. Justin, go ahead, Justin.
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Caller
Yes. Media Day Stoop said that he doesn't believe that Kentucky football is going to be behind from the rest of the teams. Football teams. And the revenue sharing is the JMI deal. Is that part of why he seems so confident that we're not going to be behind in football?
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F
I can't speak for him, but here's what I think he would say to that question. I appreciate the call. I think he believes that when it's all said and done, he will get enough money from the Rev Share to put a really, like, he'll be able to have as much as everybody else in the official money. And I think they believe, like, let's just use some numbers. There were estimations that last year, schools in the SEC spent about $20 million on football. I've heard UK football last year spent about $5 million. I bet that number's higher. But if you ask the UK people, they say five. I think that's low. But regardless, there was a huge gap. I think now they would say, okay, Georgia might spend 23, but we'll have 17 and we got a shot then. So I think that. I still think there's going to be a gap, but the gap's not going to be as wide. It's going to. It's. It's going to be like. It's the difference between. In baseball, the Dodgers spin the most. But you know what? Like, the Cubs still spend a lot, but now the Pirates don't spend anything. Right. And I think they thought we were kind of the Pirates and now maybe we're the Cubs. Is that fair?
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Drew Franklin
Yeah. I don't think, like Stoops was towing the company line and being a. That. Yeah, yeah. It's great because he doesn't have a very good poker face.
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F
I don't think after coming for years.
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Drew Franklin
And he seemed very genuine in that. No, we're in a great spot. I like what we have. It wasn't like Barnhart whispered to him on his way to do the interview. You know, we're telling Stoops and I.
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F
Really is that we can't fake it. Right. We can't fake it and he doesn't fake it. And so I agree with you. I think he genuinely thinks that or he wouldn't have said that. John, go ahead. John.
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Caller
Hey, I, I, I have a question, but before I ask it, I think JMI is always the fun killer. I mean, I remember times when Steven Johnson was playing and they had the, you guys did the face mask and they took him away because it basically wasn't their idea. I just think that anything that's fun and upcoming and that is for the fans, unless it's their idea and they want to make money on it, they're not going to be on board for it.
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F
100% totally accurate.
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Caller
You hit second thing.
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F
They have had the view and this is going to have to change, but they have had the view. If they didn't come up with it and it's not and they're not getting money for it, it can't be done. That opinion has to change. I expressed that yesterday to some folks. I'm gonna express it when I talk to him later in the week. You, we, you cannot be the hall monitor. And to use a political example, Donald Trump drives me crazy. But one of the things he's successful at is he comes off as being fun. Democrats in the last election came off as being the hall monitor. People don't like the hall monitor. JMI has been the hall monitor. They got to stop being the hall monitor. I totally agree. Go ahead to your second point.
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Caller
The question I have is now that JMI has the rights and it's uk, does that mean that when players do nil deals, we can actually make them look like true nil deals? Nothing is a joke. More when you have a double quick commercial and they say, hey, I got a blue Russell branded T shirt that says basketball player, they can now only do it at Least now can they use.
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F
Only if it's with an official. Okay, I appreciate the call I've given you three times. Only if it's an official JMI partner. So Trent, Noah can do a deal, but unless it's with an official JMI partner, he still can't wear the jersey. I think that's a mistake, but that's what it's going to be. So if, if, if he wants to do a deal with a restaurant that doesn't pay money to uk, he'll have to wear the generic T shirt.
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Drew Franklin
I mean, that's just where, if you look at. If they have other options at every other school, you're automatically limiting yourself. I mean, even if you believe J Mac and pull it off, they do have one hand behind their back. If that's, if that's the approach that.
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F
Are the official partners. I just. You do wonder how much money did they like, how much money can, can Paul Miller pay? Right.
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Drew Franklin
I can only get Malone so many takeouts so many times.
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F
Yeah. And during a lot of our, like, conflicts with jmi, I looked into how much it would cost for us to have something with them. I mean, it was astounding. And so, like, if you just keep going to those people and going, all right, pay for this. I mean, there does come a point where you just go, how much? You know, how much do you want me to spend? No, go ahead, Noah.
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Caller
Hey, Matt, I've got a very random Ask Anything Wednesday question.
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F
Go for it.
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Caller
So with all this talk. Yeah, so all this talk of movies that you guys have had this up throughout this week, I've been thinking from. With it, if you could have Hollywood make a biopic off of a historical figure from, say, like from the past 50 to 100 years. And if you could have, have any historical figure, and I want to know who it would be and who you would cast to have them. I have my answer. I give it now or after you guys answer?
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F
Go for it. What's yours?
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Caller
While I'm thinking, it's a very random one, which I know it would never happen because he's actually not an actor. But I was thinking from him before Joe Burrow as Billy Graham, look it up. Some, like, comparisons. Kind of uncanny.
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F
Wait a minute. You could see Joe Burrow as, as the minister, Billy Graham. Yeah, appreciate that.
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Caller
Looks wise. Like I said, he's not an ad.
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F
I might have to look at that. Shannon, are you saying Joe Burrow looks like Billy Graham?
- [36:48]
E
I'm saying I could see him pull that off.
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F
I could see that I can't even fathom how Joe Burrow looks like Billy Graham.
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Drew Franklin
Picture of Billy Graham. I don't know.
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F
I don't know. I only remember Billy Graham as being old, so it's hard for me to look.
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E
Can you see that? If you can see that there.
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F
Oh, somebody's already done this.
- [37:08]
E
Yeah, that's why. That's why I say I could see that because I have seen it.
- [37:12]
F
Okay. This is a thing that has been in that picture.
- [37:16]
E
Yeah, he kind of looks like him.
- [37:19]
F
I mean, maybe. Yes, that's interesting.
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Drew Franklin
I still think we have better options in the casting room there.
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F
I actually think a bio of Billy Graham would be. I mean, Billy Graham is like one of the people that I really revere and think like lived from what I know, exactly as you would want a Christian to live. People who've had interesting lives. Huey Long had a really interesting life. The former governor of Louisiana who was ran for president, he was shot. You know, all the King's Men was based on him, but it's fictionalized. So I would like to. I'd like to say I'd love to see like a really good movie about Bobby Kennedy. There was a movie. I don't think it was very good. The younger one. Not the kook that's in office right now. What about you? You got one Chris Farley. Boy, that would be.
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Drew Franklin
Sorry. Daniel Day Lewis. Daniel Day Lewis can do anything. No, no, no, no.
- [38:20]
F
They'll make a movie about Chris Farley one day and it'll be like, that's a really good pick.
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Drew Franklin
Why is it escaping? He's one of my favorite actors. American Psycho.
- [38:30]
F
The guy that he could do anything.
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Drew Franklin
Christian Bale. Christian Bale as Chris Farley.
- [38:34]
F
Well, if you had told me he could play Dick Cheney, I would have said no way. And then he did.
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Drew Franklin
He does it all.
- [38:38]
F
Yeah.
- [38:38]
Drew Franklin
How about see him in the new Madden?
- [38:40]
E
Oh, yeah, yeah, That's a good. How about Baby Billy and Billy Graham? Can you see that?
- [38:45]
F
I definitely can see that. I definitely could see Baby Billy. Interesting. I'm gonna have to think about, though, as somebody, like, who's somebody's life that is fat from the last hundred years. That is fascinating enough all the way around that I would want to see. I would want to see a movie. He was not a good person, I think, but I think a movie about George Wallace, the Alabama governor, would be interesting because he was like one of the leading segregationists. And then at the end of his life, he flipped and he thought everything he had done was wrong. It would be interesting to watch his progression, you know what I mean? He was the guy blocking the schoolhouse in Tuscaloosa from people becoming and then later in his life there were interviews where he express like cried about how he had wasted his life doing these bad things. I think that would be interesting anyway or different from Chris Farley or Chris Farley. Commonwealth causes bourbon lovers. You don't want to miss out Thursday, August 28th my birthday. A $20,000 lineup of bourbon Weller Millennium. You also have the six bottle set, Blanton's eight bottle set, Club Blue four bottle set. Those are going to be rare. Now go to commonwealthcauses.com commonwealthcause.org and enter I actually think this raffle, you get those club blues that might be a collector collector's item someday. Commonwealthcause.org for the fight. Well, I don't know if it's final, but for the August raffle August 28th at commonwealthcause.org we'll take a break. Be right back. Kentucky Sports Radio the reviews and ratings.
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F
Welcome back techie Sports radio. A lot of people I guess kind of agree on the Billy Graham thing. I. I can, I mean I guess. I don't know. Is Joe Burrow a good actor?
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E
Probably not. He's a football player.
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F
Like Billy Graham was like. I mean when I was a kid like my, my mom like adore what's my mom and Larry go to this place called the COVID I think which was like his place. They go. They used to go there all the time. Time and it was all Billy Graham. Billy Graham. He was on TV a lot too when I was a kid. But not like in the Jerry Falwell way. Like it seemed like he was actually doing good. Yeah.
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Drew Franklin
Speaking of your mom, it's. I'm now in a group text with your mom. That's fun.
- [43:48]
F
I got me and my mom and Drew just group text and chanting. You know, just sending each other, sending each other texts.
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Drew Franklin
The new Taco Bell in Pineville.
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F
Yeah. New Taco Bell in Pine. News. It is a big news. So Jason goes maybe they'd like KSR better UK if you all would pony up and give to the program. Have to respect the. Respect the brand and who owns the rights to it. Maybe put some cash in. Yeah, that's what you want, Jason. That's what you want is you want the media who pay to get access. That's a really good way to have like a system. Let's make it to where the only people that get any access at all in the media are people who pay. Yeah, well, let's put that in a different context. Yeah. I think you'd probably really like it if NBC paid Joe Biden for access to the White House. Wouldn't that be good? And the entities that didn't pay them couldn't get in. Oh, wait, maybe that's happening right now. But, like, is that what you would want? That's not what you want. This is a public university.
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Drew Franklin
Also in the former model Ron Lemon was losing so much money on that. The king of card. The card game, remember, with Club Blue?
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F
Yeah. He's doing a lot. So KSR was giving a lot of money. King of hearts.
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Drew Franklin
King of hearts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [45:11]
F
But you don't want that. You really want. Because also, if I'm in partnership with uk, I'm just going to say what they want. I think a lot of people, Shannon, just want to be lied to.
- [45:24]
E
Oh, I'm sure.
- [45:25]
F
Just lie to me.
- [45:26]
E
Yeah.
- [45:27]
F
Tell me what I want to.
- [45:28]
E
Tell me what.
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F
Tell me what makes me feel better. Because I don't like to hear things that don't make me feel good. There's a lot of people like that in a lot of realms, unfortunately.
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Drew Franklin
How much would I have to pay for them to let me come inside when it's raining after a game?
- [45:42]
F
Impossible.
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Drew Franklin
Does make for a good video.
- [45:45]
F
Yeah, but we made. But you made that work. You getting kicked out of the games, you made it work.
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Drew Franklin
Numbers went up.
- [45:52]
F
Hall monitor. Alan, Go ahead, Alan.
- [45:55]
Caller
Hey, guys, this is Alan from St. Louis, not Cutler. I don't want to have any beef with Shannon.
- [45:59]
F
I'm a fan of his.
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Caller
So let's just start off with that. I was just wondering, the UK athletics department forming the LLC a few weeks back, do you think that factored into that decision with this?
- [46:11]
F
Yeah, of course. I mean, this was. This was announced at the first meeting of that llc. Right. So clearly. Yeah, clearly it had something to do with it. I'm not like a high level corporate lawyer, so I'm not sure what the tax implication, but. But for certain, that had something to do with it.
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Caller
Were you surprised that Nike gave us a deal that was of lesser value than some of the other schools?
- [46:35]
F
No, because we're not. Because we're not a football school and the money's in football, so. So, no, I actually think what Kentucky gets from Nike is kind of amazing, considering that we're not a football school. I have to think that Kentucky and Duke are by far the schools that get the most that are basketball primary schools. And Duke is almost a national brand. Kentucky is too, but Duke is even more so. Plus Duke has a very rich alumni base. But yeah, I'm. I'm not surprised. You know, the. Just think about it like this. Think about how many people are at a Tennessee football game. 100,000 people. Right. Think about all the stuff they're buying when they're there. Take the biggest Kentucky basketball game and it's 21,000 people. I mean it's just a sheer numbers game at some point. Allen.
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Caller
Gotcha. That's great.
- [47:30]
F
Yeah. Appreciate the call. I mean general, the football schools, that's. It's always going to be the biggest thing.
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Drew Franklin
That's why when we were talking about Ohio State getting more. It's just the football brand just carries that. You can't compare yourself.
- [47:41]
F
And just a population thing. Like what's the population of Texas and Ohio versus Kentucky? I mean Texas probably got four or five times as many people. Ohio's probably got three times as many people. So I mean, I think that's.
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Drew Franklin
And having gone to that Texas game last year, my goodness, that's a different sport there.
- [47:59]
F
Yeah. And that was at Austin. Knows Texas has a very wealthy alumni base. Very wealthy. So I think Ohio State, I mean, I would say Kentucky, I mean we're not the least wealthy alumni base. But against a lot of our competition, we probably aren't the highest wealth alumni base. So in our state, I mean we're. We don't have the money in our state that other states do. It's just, it's just the fact. Sam, Go ahead, Sam.
- [48:28]
Caller
Hey, Matt. I just wanted to call because I feel like I have the solution to the NCAA tournament. I know that they keep wanting to. To raise the, the number of teams that are in. I feel like that's going to make it worse and worse and worse. I think that they should go to the model that they use for basketball or me for baseball. For basketball. So go into the quad system. You have double eliminations to get to the sweet 16. And then that means that the Kentucky's, the Dukes of the world that are playing. If they lose a game, they still have a chance to go back. It's double.
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F
I mean, I love that.
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Caller
That means they get the more money. They get more money. They do that. Expand it.
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F
That's. At the end of the day, I agree with you. I think it would make some sense to like go double elimination in the Final Four or something like that in the early rounds. The NCAA tournament needs Oakland beaten. Kentucky they just did.
- [49:21]
Caller
That's true. But at the same time, like you don't you, you want them. They, they would still be able to beat them. You know what I mean? But it just doesn't knock them out.
- [49:32]
F
Of the three. They get another out of the three is not enough. It like they got to beat us. I do think going to the double elimination, the final four would be good, but the magic of the NCAA tournament is Oakland over Kentucky and you can't, you can't lose that. I don't think.
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