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Matt Jones
Iheart presents the Big three playoffs this Sunday. The remaining four teams battle to make the championship in the most physical, fierce and competitive basketball league in the world. The action starts with the big three monster energy celebrity games. Then Dwight Howard and his LA riot take on Montrez Harrell and Dr. J Chicago triplets. The finale will see popular Miami 305 with stars MVP Michael Beasley and Lance Stevenson take on Nancy Lieberman's Dallas power who will make it to the big three championship. The no holds barred action starts Sunday at 3pm Eastern, 12 Pacific only on CBS.
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Shannon The Dude
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Matt Jones
Off Broadway.
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Drew Franklin
Welcome, everybody. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here at the Kentucky State Fair in front of a great crowd of UK fans in Louisville, Kentucky. In the south wing, this is ksr. You can give us a shout out to Clark's Pump and shop phone line 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254. In this edition, sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office. If you call, TJ will make them pay. We are here with the Kentucky association of Health Plans. Folks, if you come in today, even for those of you that are here, you get a flu shot, you get a free Kroger gift card. That's pretty exciting, right? First, 250 people who get a flu shot. Not only will you not get a flu, you will get a gift card from Kroger Kentucky association of Health Plans, right here in the Healthy Horizons Pavilion in the South Wing. B. I was navigating this place, trying to find it earlier. I got here and look at what we see when we got here. We've got people, a big crowd. I said, look, there won't be places for people to sit. They came anyway, which is very nice. We got this young guy right here who's got a Ryan Lemon shirt. He came up to me within seconds of me walking up here. Made me feel old. He said, I've been listening to you since I was 6 years old.
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Evan
That hurts.
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Drew Franklin
That hurts.
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Evan
Yeah.
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Drew Franklin
Now he does say 17, although you could pass for 28. I'm not going to lie to you, but But. But nevertheless, we got Kentucky Joe. Don't sing to anybody. But it's nice to see.
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Evan
Too late. He already did.
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Drew Franklin
Oh, you did? Yeah. And then I'm sure that one guy's going to show up at some point during the show, but. Drew Franklin. Shannon, the dude. Great to be out here at the state fair again.
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Evan
It. It is my super bowl out here, as you know. I love, love the Kentucky State Fair. I come every year. I'm going to be out here four times this year tomorrow night for Blue Oyster Cult.
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Drew Franklin
Oh, Blue Oyster Cult.
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Evan
Yeah.
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Drew Franklin
Same guys, the original.
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Evan
Well, no, I think two of them might be okay. Sunday is the big country music fest, or not festival, but the 90s show with, like, Sam Kershaw, Colin Ray, Aaron Tippen, the guy who once spotted you at the gym.
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Drew Franklin
Do you think he'll remember? No. All right.
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Evan
And then we got some other shows coming up next week, too, so I'll be out here a lot. Looking forward to it.
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Drew Franklin
And you love, like, all the dips and all that. All that stuff, too.
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Evan
Of course. Yeah. You go, you get the pretzels, and you dip your pretzel in there where everybody else has dipped it in red barn biscuits.
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Drew Franklin
I see. This is your kind of. If Shannon the dude were to, like, have his heaven.
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Evan
This is it.
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Drew Franklin
This is where. This is where it is.
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Evan
When I die, just bury me underneath of the fair and expo. That's right. Yeah, Just put me right here. Put a little tombstone.
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Drew Franklin
What about you?
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Ryan Lemon
Well, it's funny he says that because the longest time I thought Shannon was, like, just a troll that lived at the fair, because the first time I met Shannon was at the fair. Then, like, a year passed. I didn't see him again until we did another show at the fair. And for a while, I just knew Shannon is always fair.
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Evan
You know, like, when I retire, I want to be a carny. I could just bark at people in the midway.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, well, I think that's. To be honest with you, I think that's a goal you can achieve.
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Evan
Yeah, I think I could do that.
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Drew Franklin
I think if you.
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Evan
I don't know what the pay is.
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Drew Franklin
But I think if you work towards that, Shannon, you have the skills. You could. You two could be a car.
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Evan
You've always got to have a fallback plan.
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Drew Franklin
That's fine. Well, we got a lot of stuff to get to today. I actually wanted to start with something I don't do a lot, which is actually talk about another show or podcast, which is the Matt Norlander College Basketball Podcast. The reason I Want to talk about it is he had his as his guest, Mark Pope. It went 70 minutes yesterday, actually. I recommend for folks that you listen to it. It was interesting to listen to Mark Pope with him. He was different than he was on this show in a different way. It is clear to me, Drew, that Mark Pope and Matt Norlander are friends. If you listen to it, it's clear Norlander, there's like two people in college basketball media that I think were friends with Mark Pope before, and that would be Matt Norlander and Jeff Goodman. And I think when those two guys say something about him, I tend to listen a little bit more because I know they know him. And you could hear, listening to this podcast, that Matt Norlander in here, he are like, they're talking about Miles Davis together. And clearly so they know that the other one likes Miles Davis. But he said a number of things. And I encourage you to listen. But I also just want to rattle through him, rattle through some of the highlights because I think they're important for people who are Kentucky fans to know about Mark Pope. So you ready for some of these?
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Ryan Lemon
Very ready.
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Drew Franklin
Let's get started. He was asked by Matt Norlander to grade last year's season grade how he thought they would do. I'm always interested when coaches are asked this because they won't give themselves an A unless they're just a jerk, right? Like, but some of them will give themselves, like, an F. He said solid B, B minus. He said I'd give myself a BB minus. He said ultimately I didn't succeed because this go the success here is winning the national championship. But he gave himself a BB minus. I think he's a hard grader. I would have said A minus for me. Probably maybe lost a few games during the season. I think they shouldn't have lost. But he also won eight games against top 15 teams, which is more than any college basketball team ever in the history of college basketball. But he gave himself a BB minus.
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Ryan Lemon
Yeah, I feel like it's a pretty honest assessment. I would have gone a little higher as a fan of Pope, but I guess he's punishing himself. The SEC standings, you know, they hope to never be that low again. You're not in the SEC tournament by the weekend when Pope knows how important that is to the fans. So I think that would be about right. Also had some great wins in that regular season.
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Evan
I think I would probably give him a B plus considering how quickly he threw everything together and how he made that team gel the way they did. I think that he did a great job.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, I think he's hard on himself. I would have said a minus now. I thought this was interesting. Matt Norlander said what was the high point of the season? What game were you the happiest? What game were you the saddest for? The saddest. He picked Ohio State up in Madison Square Garden, where we got beat by 20. He said Madison Square Garden is next to him, next to Rupp arena, the most important gym in the country to him. And he thought it was embarrassing, the performance they gave and. And he was very concerned. What was interesting is he said the best moment of the year. I wouldn't guess this, but we were. There was in Seattle and the comeback against Gonzaga was a great. He said when Jackson, when. When they lost both Kirk Cresa and Lamont Butler and were still able to come back and win on what essentially amounted to Gonzaga's home court. He said that was the first moment he thought, oh, wow, this team could be special.
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Ryan Lemon
Yeah. If I remember correctly, it wasn't just bouncing back from losing injuries. They completely changed up their defense in that second half. Maybe it was like a 131 zone. I think that might have cooled Gonzaga off when they were completely hot in the first half. So I could see why he'd be proud of that game. I would. I would probably lean Duke in that moment where he tells go get two hands on Cooper flag.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, he mentioned Duke. He said, exciting, but, you know, it was also their first game with freshmen. He thought that the Gonzaga game was a game where he thought, okay, this is a team that can do something.
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Evan
Yeah, I thought that, you know, Kentucky is going to get blown out, Kirk Crease goes down with the injury, then they come back and win. And that right there was the moment where I knew that this team had a lot of fight. And we saw that multiple times throughout the season, but that was really the first time that we saw it.
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Drew Franklin
He then went player by player, talking about the team this year who he thought would be good, etc. And he said that he believes Drew Otega away will be the best defender in America this year. Said he thinks Otagoe will be the best defender in America. He I thought he was a good defender last year and by the end of the year I thought he was really good. Do you think best defender in America is plausible?
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Ryan Lemon
That's really high praise. I'm excited about a big jump in the combine. I know it's Wednesday afternoon in a scrimmage in Chicago, but Owe looked like such a good defender up there. Is in those pre draft scrimmages. I know he eventually pulled out of the draft, but the few times he was in those five on fives, he looked like a completely different defender. And I thought, oh, is he going to bring that back to Lexington for the next year? And it sounds like that's going to be a big part of his game.
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Drew Franklin
I like that. When he's talking about Jaden Quaintance, of course, Norlander. Really? You. Norlander pushed him in a way. Like, I wouldn't feel comfortable because I don't know Mark like that. He clearly did. So he wouldn't let Mark evade questions. And he'd say, you didn't answer my question. Things I would say to maybe Mark Stoops, he said to and maybe we'll get there one day. But he did it. And with Jaden Quaintance, he said, when's he going to come back? And he didn't want to answer. And then finally Mark said, he will not play every game this year, Shannon. But he certainly thought he would play a decent amount of games. He made it sound like we're talking Christmas Eve, which is kind of what we thought. But it was interesting to hear from him.
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Evan
Yeah, I'm good with that. I would rather have him in February and March than I would November, December. So if he needs to take a couple of months to rest up and get, you know, his injury healed entirely, then I'm good with that. He did look good at the dirt bowl, though, that dog, that doc.
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Drew Franklin
I mean, he was.
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Evan
He has some great hang time.
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Drew Franklin
Well, he said in terms of that this three weeks are his most important three weeks of his whole process of recovery. So he thought he would know more in three weeks.
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Ryan Lemon
He's the first one back on campus as they start making their way back from vacation. I'm with you, though. That was the moment you could tell Norlander was comfortable because he just interrupted.
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Drew Franklin
Pope like, no, no, come on, give me a month. Yeah, he was like, answer my question, son. Like, he was very, very specific. Then I. I thought this was interesting about Jaden Quaint because I don't really know anything about him beyond that. He's really good at basketball, Pope says, because Pope's apparently pretty good at chess. Like, not great, but pretty good at chess. He said Jaden quaintance is up 51 against him on chess. He says, now, I don't play chess, but I do know enough about chess to know you got to be pretty smart to do it. So I kind of like drew a dude if he's up 5 to 1 on a grown man on chess. We might actually. He might be like a really smart player.
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Ryan Lemon
Yeah. We know how bright Pope is. Probably highest IQ in that building. But if your star player that's projected lottery pick just wants to hang out and be nerds together, that's going to be nothing but good things. I like that he has that attitude. He's right.
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Evan
Apparently he's a much better chess player than a driver, though. He can't pass his driver's test.
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Drew Franklin
He cannot pass. And Pope confirmed did not pass the driver's test. Apparently it wasn't close because he ran over a cone, which is not what you want to do on your driver's test. He's. He's driving like that kid's walking. Like sometimes you fall down. All right. Then he was asked about schedule. He said every single year, he wants Kentucky to have the hardest schedule in college basketball. I can't tell you how much I love that because Cal played pretty hard schedules, but then whined about it the whole time. I loved Pope saying, this is Kentucky. We should play the hardest schedule in college basketball every year.
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Ryan Lemon
And last year, it was ridiculously hard. It was the third hardest in the country. And he was talking like, how disappointed he was that it was only the third hardest. Like second. Third best isn't good enough for him. He wants to be the best at everything, have the hardest schedule, play the best teams.
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Evan
Your Kentucky basketball, you shouldn't be afraid of anybody. And I think you need to be battle tested going into March. And if you've already played the best teams in the regular season, you're ready.
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Drew Franklin
To go for it. Yeah, just some other little personality things I thought fans would think is interesting. They asked him about why he was the number 41. And for those of you with religious backgrounds, he gave an answer that was like two minutes all about the Bible. He was like Noah, the. The. The. The water flooded for 40 days. And then it was the 41st day that he was able to. To get off the flood. He said Moses, when they left the. Or got the promised land, whatever was day 41, Jesus was on earth for 40 days. And then God called him back home on day 41. He said that for him. 41. He like, he literally mentioned, my mom would have loved it. He mentioned like six things from the Bible, all of which were on the 41st day. And that's why. And then he said Kobe Braya, which not quite as same as the Bible, but Kobe braya was picked 41st in the draft and his first win at Kentucky was by 41 points.
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Ryan Lemon
Yeah. I still think Kylie probably just gave it to him. Here you go, man.
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Drew Franklin
Alexa, here's your jersey. You think all that stuff. I think he's had 30 years to be. Put that together package. I still think he rolled in and.
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Ryan Lemon
Kylie's like, here you go, man.
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Drew Franklin
Welcome. Here's your.
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Evan
I mean, that's usually the way it works. Like, when I play baseball, I was just 20 because, you know, his biblical.
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Drew Franklin
You're suggesting none of that was the reason.
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Ryan Lemon
Great answer. Nice and polished.
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Drew Franklin
I'm just.
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Ryan Lemon
I'm just thinking he transferred in. Patino's telling to run kite. Le is like, here's your jersey.
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Drew Franklin
I think Mark Pope wanted. I think it was because of Noah Moses. Yeah.
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Evan
What would they. They just gave him two.
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Drew Franklin
I don't know. He would have figured out something else. He also. All right, one more answer. I loved. He was asked about the portal, and, you know, what do most coaches say about the portal? What do they say? I don't like it. It's not good. What does Mark Pope say? He said, I love the portal. He said, this is the best time to coach college basketball in history because it's unique. You don't know what's going to happen. And I feel like I have a chance to beat everybody else at it because nobody knows what to do. See, that is what a creative person thinks. There's, like, a market inefficiency. How do I beat it and then take advantage of it? I love it. I've sat here and listened to coaches in all sports complain. The whole thing's falling apart. He said, look, are there things I do differently? Sure, but this is the most exciting time to coach, and I'd rather be coaching now than any other time. That's what you want, Shannon, if you're going to have a coach for the future, they can't sit there and wait for a time that the is gone.
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Evan
It's adapt or die. Right? The portal is not going anywhere. So whether or not you like it, you have to. To figure out how can you get ahead of it. And Mark Pope, I think, does a better job than anybody at that. And it helps when you're at Kentucky.
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Drew Franklin
Let's be real now. Last thing. And I actually, just as a human, found this interesting. He was asked, what is the worst part of the job? What's the worst part of being a coach at Kentucky? And I thought this was a really interesting answer. He said, the worst part is kind of also the best part. He said, but once you're the coach at Kentucky. You essentially become public property. He was like, your life becomes public property. The. The state kind of owns you in a way. And he said, that's just taken some me getting used to. He's like, I don't hate it, but it also makes it to where you kind of are no longer yourself, your public property. I think that's a fascinating thing to say, and I get it.
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Ryan Lemon
Yeah. I mean, he's very aware of the position holds and all that comes with it. I think when he first got here, even though he had been through it as a player, you know, back before we had phones taking pictures everywhere, when there was that phase of every restaurant, you know, it's getting reported where he's sitting. I think there was a moment where he's thinking, my goodness, what is this job that I've gotten into?
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Evan
But the thing that I think he does so well, maybe better than any coach, is how accessible he is and approachable. You know what I mean? You could go up and you could just talk to him, and he would talk with you and take a picture, whatever you want.
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Drew Franklin
And the last thing, just for the record, he probably wouldn't like me highlighting this, but when I said this about a week ago, I got a lot of angry messages from people. A lot of you, not you all here, you all are wonderful. But some of the people listening got a little angry messages at me for saying this. He quoted. He said the exact same answer. Matt. Lauren Lander said, if you could have dinner with anybody alive, who would you say? And he said, barack Obama. I'm just saying, don't get mad at me. Stinking liberal, he said. Our coach also said Barack Obama, Drew. So I'm not the only one that would have said that as an answer.
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Ryan Lemon
I wondered if. Stick with you if you bring it up on the show today.
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Drew Franklin
Yes.
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Ryan Lemon
It stood out to me that he doesn't like blue cheese. That was one of my big takeaways.
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Drew Franklin
Dude, I love blue cheese. What's wrong with blue cheese?
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Ryan Lemon
Oh, actually, another one that stood out to me because you don't hear a coach admit this is Norlander asks him how much he reads, how many podcasts, consumes, if he's on social media.
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Drew Franklin
He said, all the time.
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Ryan Lemon
He said, yeah, I'm on it a lot. A lot of coaches, even though we know they are, they pretend they're not to not hear it.
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Drew Franklin
He admitted, I thought that was really interesting. They. He asked for. For. He. They asked him, do you follow what the media says in college basketball and local Kentucky media, what they said. And he said, I follow it all. I appreciate he's being honest. All these coaches do it and then say they don't. He acknowledged that he did, and I thought that was cool. So I highly recommend that interview. It's called, like, I on college basketball. But it's 70 minutes with Pope, and I think it was really good. We are here at the state fair with Kentucky association of Health Plans in Louisville. It's a beautiful day. Great Kentucky crowd taking over the city of Louisville. I'm gonna tell you what we almost had happen today. Actually, I'm not, because it's gonna happen one day. And I want to surprise you. But we will take a break and be right back. This is Kentucky sports Radio. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live in Louisville at the Kentucky State Fair. You can get a flu shot right here. You get a Kroger gift card if you get it where you won't get the flu this fall and help prevent it against the flu. Are you. Do you get flu shots?
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Evan
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. It's like, you know, it's like everything. It's like roulette.
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Drew Franklin
Well, they're right. I feel like this is your time. It's right here.
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Evan
And I could go Krogering after that.
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Drew Franklin
That's right.
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Evan
That's right.
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Ryan Lemon
That's perfect for me. I get flu shots, and I like going to Kroger. So this is my kind of party.
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Drew Franklin
It's a. It's a great combination. 8, 5, 9, 2 8, 0, 22, 87. Great crowd here. I always like to do this look and see what's at the fair.
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Evan
Let's go.
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Drew Franklin
Throughout our. Throughout our show here today, I'll read you things happening today at the state fair. And you could tell me if you want going on right now. I hate. I don't want you to leave this, but I would understand if you did. Going on right now is the something to crow about contest right over there.
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Evan
Like a crow calling contest.
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Drew Franklin
I don't know. That's what I'm asking you. What is that? What do you think? The something to crow about contest? Like, I don't. People don't. People don't own crows. Right? Like, they just fly and show up in your.
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Evan
Remember, Harvey would tell you they would bring you, like, jewelry and watches and stuff.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, well, they would steal.
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Evan
Yeah. They were thieves.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah.
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Evan
Thieves of the animal kingdom.
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Ryan Lemon
That's what I think it is. I think it's a collection of stolen goods. They bring them in Here and, you know, sell them to get the.
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Drew Franklin
Get the heat off their back. I was trying to think about what something to crow about festival would be. Is it people like, impersonating crows or crowing about something? Okay. Can you. Does anybody know how to do a crow call?
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Ryan Lemon
We got a poodle over here.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, I got you a poodle if.
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Evan
You need a poodle. I don't know about a crow, though.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, I don't know if you have crow in you. Well, I'd be. If anybody goes to something to crow about contest, let me know what it is. I'd be interested to.
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Evan
I think you'd have to eat some crow when the Reds don't make the playoffs.
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Drew Franklin
All right, well, you brought this up. I wasn't gonna do. I wasn't.
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Evan
You're welcome. The Braves won.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, we're hot.
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Ryan Lemon
Hottest team in baseball.
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Drew Franklin
I wasn't gonna talk about them till the second hour because some people are like, hey, you talk about the Reds too much. And we don't have that many Reds fans. With that said, we're only a half game back now.
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Ryan Lemon
You're welcome.
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Drew Franklin
This you. Thank you very much. We are a half game back, the summer of Ellie. Now, we play the best team in baseball that's won 12 straight games. So things are against us. But I'm gonna go ahead and tell you, if we don't get swept, even if we just win one game this weekend, I'm good. If we win two on Monday, I'm coming in, like, I don't know.
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Evan
With the George Web burger in your hand.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, that's right. Like, you know, pants off. Like, I'm excited. Oh, wow.
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Ryan Lemon
That is cool to go to HR.
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Drew Franklin
Over the Reds, but, I mean, I'm. I'm gonna be excited. This is good. This is also kind of exciting because they said because I've been so excited, they've invited me on September 5th, and I am inviting you two to come with me if you promise to wear Reds gear. So here's. This is what I'm gonna say. I'm not gonna tell you what it is yet. Do you promise to on September 5, wear redskin?
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Evan
Let me check my calendar here.
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Ryan Lemon
I have.
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Drew Franklin
I just need a yes or a no.
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Ryan Lemon
I'll wear my Doug flirt. Doug flirt.
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Drew Franklin
You will wear Reds gear on the September 5th. Now you want to hear what we're going to do?
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Evan
What we going to do?
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Drew Franklin
They've invited me to come on the field prior to the game to watch batting practice. Oh. So we can stand right there next to Ellie. And by the way, September 5th is not a little game. They play the Mets that night. Who's who they're going against. Like, this is a big game and they're gonna need our help.
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Evan
That's right. Maybe we get a couple of cuts in before the game.
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Drew Franklin
The Ellie's gonna need our tips here before the game. So are you in?
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Evan
Let's go. I'm all in on that. That sounds like a lot of fun.
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Ryan Lemon
Drew, last time you made me wear Reds gear to a Reds game, I did more harm than good. I don't know if you want me done.
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Evan
We won't have you doing the match game.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, no, I just. We're good.
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Ryan Lemon
I'll dust off the Doug Flynn shirt.
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Drew Franklin
They've invited us, so I think so September 5th, it's. It's just a few days before I go to South Africa. We are going to go. It's the last home game I'll get to go to all year, so that's part of it.
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Evan
I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. Sounds like a lot of fun.
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Drew Franklin
All right. 859-280-2287. I was on Greg McElroy and Cole Kublick right before I came here. I was actually walking, trying to find this place while on the phone. Those guys, of course, nobody knows the SEC better than those two guys. Two of the biggest announcers that do SEC football. Cole Kublick said, what do you think Kentucky's going to do this year, record wise? I said, five and seven. He said, you're too pessimistic. You guys are making a bowl this year.
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Evan
There we go.
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Drew Franklin
That made me feel good. And then Greg McElroy said, I think Kentucky is the hardest team to predict in all of college football this year. He said, if you all win four, it wouldn't shock me. If you won eight, it wouldn't shock.
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Evan
Well, that would shock me.
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Drew Franklin
And he said all of the sec, the coaches, etc, have no idea what to think about Kentucky because they think they could be really good or really bad and nobody is really sure. I thought both of those were interesting comments.
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Ryan Lemon
Yeah, especially the, the mystery part. We're all a little down because how last year went, but they have 50 new players. Unless you're at every single practice and even doing that to be hard to know how they're going to look when you finally get out on the field during a few weeks.
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Drew Franklin
And Cole Kublick is a big offensive line guy. It's because he. That's what he cares about. He said he's heard Kentucky's offensive line is. This was his words, old school. Good for Kentucky. So that made me feel better. I'm not gonna lie. We'll take a break. We'll be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live at the Kentucky State Fair. Kentucky association of Health Plans. You can get your flu shot and you get a free Kroger gift card. Stay healthy and protect yourself here at the Kentucky State Fair with the Kentucky association of health plans. 859-280-2287. I'm gonna go the phones. When person writes, Matt, I heard you on McElroy and Cole Kublick. Another thing I like that they said is they think Kentucky's culture is back and that they're hearing people in the SEC say they think it'll be better. I was glad to hear that, too. You know, they talk to coaches and people around staffs. I thought that was good news.
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Ryan Lemon
That's something that's been clear even in the media. Got to go to two practices. Anytime you talk to a player, it's not just some SPE messaging that the program wants those guys to get out. They're all holding each other accountable. You can see it if you're around there at all.
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Drew Franklin
One person writes, I'd like to know from each of you what would be more surprising to you, Kentucky winning only three games or Kentucky winning seven games, which would be more shocking? We all, we've all kind of predicted four or five or six. Which is more shocking, Three or seven?
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Evan
For me, I think three would be more shocking because I've already predicted six. So that just means you just need one. They just need one more. So I could see there being a path to seven. 3. I don't think there's any way it's that bad. Four maybe, but not that bad.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, I'd be surprised if it's three. I think they're gonna, they're gonna take. They'll steal one from somebody. So I would say three. Seven. I mean, okay, you want to make the case for seven. The case for seven is you beat Vandy, you beat Auburn, and you win two of the whole, then you win two of your. Either Florida, Tennessee, Texas, Ole Miss at Louisville. Not crazy. Yeah.
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Ryan Lemon
And I think seven is more likely than three. Two. They're going to win an SEC game. I'm looking at at Vandy. I know it's there and they've won two out of three. But the league's hopefully caught up to Pavia now. They know who he is. I Think Tennessee might not be all that they're hyped up to be. And then you have Florida coming to Lexington in November. I think any of those games, you could count them getting one of them at least.
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Drew Franklin
There was a clip that was going around on social media of an old Ms. Podcast saying that the Kentucky game was the most important game of the Lane Kiffin tenure. That if. Like that. That if they. If he does not win that game, a lot of fans will start to be.
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Evan
To question, look back at last year. I mean, you know, it could happen. It could happen this year where it's at least a close game in the fourth quarter, you have a chance.
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Ryan Lemon
They got worse and you got better, and you beat them there last year. So just a simple generic look at the game says you should be in.
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Drew Franklin
It should be. Who's up first?
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F
Mike is up first.
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Drew Franklin
Mike. Go ahead, Mike.
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G
Hey, guys. How are y' all this morning doing? Good question for you. If, say, Kentucky goes 2 and 10 this year and they decide to part ways with. With students, how much of an impact is the allocation of money between football and basketball going to impact their ability to hire a established coach?
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, I mean, that's what's hard is because I appreciate the call, because Mitch has taken the position that we're not going to know how much of the rev share goes to football, how much goes to basketball. I have a fundamental disagreement with him on that, but he articulated his position because we don't know that it's going to be hard to know when they go out and get a coach whether or not the money had anything to do with it. How are you going to even know? Because we don't even know what the money is. Right. You know, it's hard to know.
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Evan
You know, it's going to have a big impact. You just. Like I said, none of us will know about it.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah. So I. I don't know. He did Pope thing. He asked Pope, whose roster costs more, Yours or Saint or. Or Rick Patino's. And Pope said something like, in anything I do against Patino, I'm beating him.
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Evan
Love that.
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Drew Franklin
Which I thought was interesting because, you know, most people think Patino's roster costs more than anyone in college basketball. I know Pope was kind of kidding, but he was also kind of insinuating ours cost more than that.
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Ryan Lemon
Yeah, he's being playful with Patino, but he also answered the question somewhat indirectly, but he did not say, you know, you think if he. If he didn't want the message out there, that spent a lot, he'd easily put that on Rick. Like, oh, Rick spent the most by far. He's Rick. But now he. Pope took that one.
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Drew Franklin
It's interesting, you know, if you're sitting there building a roster, there's an argument that you want to put out there that we pay the most. There's also an argument that if you put out there we pay the most, you're going to get asked for the most. You know what I mean? So, like, it can kind of go either way. You know, there's. It's like when you're hiring someone, on the one hand, if you have a really competitive salary, you want to say, we have a really competitive salary, but you also don't want to make it to where you could have gotten somebody for $100,000 and they charge you $150,000 because you said you pay $150,000. You know what I mean?
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Ryan Lemon
Like, sense.
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Drew Franklin
I don't know what you want to do there.
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Ryan Lemon
I think it does help you get to the table, though, if you're one of the top spenders, at least get you in the mix and on list and get you down to the final stages so you can work it out on the paperwork.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah. So I don't know who's up next.
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F
Judy is up next.
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Drew Franklin
Judy, go ahead. Judy.
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H
Hey. I just finished listening to the 70 Minute podcast with hope, and I have not done my research yet, but they said that Kentucky winning eight of the 15 top teams, that was this year, but there were two other teams that have done it the past. Now, I have not researched that yet, and you all let me know.
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Drew Franklin
But we don't talk about. We don't talk about them. Right. Like if we were the one. If we were one of them, we'll just act like the other people don't exist. There's no reason to give those other teams credit. Right.
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H
I love it. Yes, I agree.
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Drew Franklin
Facts. Facts are optional.
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H
That's right. That's right. But you all have a great time at the fair.
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Drew Franklin
All right. Appreciate the call. What's your favorite food item to eat at the fair?
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Evan
Usually the pork chop from the Kentucky pork producers.
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Drew Franklin
That's right over there.
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Evan
Yeah. Yeah. That's usually what we do after the show. You want to grab one after the show?
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Drew Franklin
They don't ever have seats, but I'd love to go over there. What about you?
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Ryan Lemon
Something's gotta be deep fried. Probably deep fried. Oreos, maybe. Deep fried. Really? Anything deep fried, especially sweet.
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Evan
They've added, like. Okay, they've added a few new things, including, like, A hot Cheetos corn dog where they roll the corn dog and hot Cheeto. Like crushed up hot Cheetos. They roll the corn dog and hot Cheetos.
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Drew Franklin
I don't like corn dogs, but I do like hot Cheetos, so I could see how that would be.
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Evan
Sounds good to me. I think. May have to try that.
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Drew Franklin
Corn dogs are kind of gross. Hey, Rick, did you get your wine that I bought you last week or did Shannon leave it in his car?
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F
No, Shannon personally handed it to me earlier this morning.
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Evan
There you go.
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Drew Franklin
So when are you going to, when are you going to treat yourself to the, to, to the wine? It was, it's, it's a nice bottle. So I hope you do it in something, a special moment.
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F
Well, I'm gonna take it home and put it in my wine fridge so it chills to the correct temperature and I'll probably.
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Drew Franklin
What is the correct temperature? What is the correct temperature?
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F
Well, it's a red wine, so for me it's 55 degrees.
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Drew Franklin
55.
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F
55 degrees.
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Evan
It was, it was only about 95 degrees in my car last night when it was still in there. So.
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Ryan Lemon
It's good for the grapes.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, the grapes like it to be hot and then really cold. So. So. Well, I hope you enjoy it. And when you, when you, when you sip on it, Rick, I hope you think about how, how much, how. What a great job you do for us when we're out on remote.
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F
Well, I really appreciate that, Matt.
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Drew Franklin
Of course. All right, who's next?
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F
Rick got Charlie up next.
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Drew Franklin
Charlie. Go ahead, Charlie.
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G
Hey, Matt. First time, long time.
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Drew Franklin
Who are. What's up?
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G
You were talking about the Little League World Series yesterday.
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Drew Franklin
Yes, and my predictions were good. My predictions are Japan won 12 to nothing. South Carolina won 13 to nothing. South Dakota won. Like there's a. Well, the Little League World Series actually issued a statement right after. You think I'm joking? The Little League World Series issued a statement at like 1pm saying please don't bet on Little League baseball. I was like, did you listen to my draft kings ass?
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Evan
Homeland security on line one again.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, but go ahead, sir.
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G
Well, back in 1971, I was on the first team from Kentucky to represent the state in the Little League World Series and a former Red beat us.
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Drew Franklin
Where was that?
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G
Gardenside Little League in Lexington.
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Drew Franklin
Well, congratulations. Did you all win the Little League World Series?
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G
No, no. Lloyd McLendon was a pitcher from Gary, Indiana, played for the Reds. They signed him as a 12 year old to be their catcher. And that's not 5 foot 8 and 12 year old.
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Drew Franklin
Hang on just a second. Sir, sir, sir, I might have to stop you. The Red did not sign a 12 year old to be their catcher. First of all, I think that violates.
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G
When he was, when he was 12 years old that the Reds had signed him to be their catcher. He was 5 foot 8. As a 12. No, they didn't hit five home run.
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Drew Franklin
They did not. The Reds did not sign a 12 year old to be their catcher, sir. That can't be true.
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Ryan Lemon
If any team would do it.
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G
Okay, okay. They had him, I don't know, in their farm league as a 12 year old.
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Evan
He was single laying.
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Drew Franklin
Listen, I believe. Okay, okay, here's what I believe. I believe the Reds saw him play.
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Evan
Yeah. Maybe had a scout there.
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Drew Franklin
I do not believe they signed a 12 year old to be their catcher. That's. I, I'm almost certain that's against the law.
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G
Well, okay. We're 12 years old. That was what was going around the camp, that the Reds had an eye on him just like you.
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Drew Franklin
You were told there was a ghost in the cabin next to you. That now that I can believe, sir.
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G
But Anyway, he was 5 for 5, hit five home runs, tied bug fouls record for a little league player. He. Last time I saw him, he was coaching the American League all star team.
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Drew Franklin
Well, cool. All right, well, thank you. Appreciate the congratulations on being the, the first one you look up.
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Evan
I, I can't find anything.
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Ryan Lemon
It's like a make a wish situation.
- [34:08]
Evan
I don't think so.
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Drew Franklin
No, I mean I actually have heard of Lloyd McLendon. I think he did end up playing in the majors.
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Evan
Yeah, he did with the Pirates and the Reds.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah. I think he was actually a pretty good pitch, pretty good player. But I do not believe he was signed as a 12 year old. Although I do like the confidence with which he said it. And this is what's great about people. He said it with confidence. And then I said, well, that's what. Then he was like. Well, that's what people were saying at the time.
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Ryan Lemon
I'm gonna have a hard time believing it. Went five for five with five home runs.
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Evan
No, it's right here. Hitting five homers and five swings at age 12.
- [34:37]
Drew Franklin
Now that's cool.
- [34:38]
Evan
Yeah.
- [34:39]
Drew Franklin
So he had five swings, five home runs.
- [34:41]
Evan
What it says does not say he had a contract at the age of 12.
- [34:44]
Ryan Lemon
He pitched against the Yankees.
- [34:45]
Evan
Did not say that.
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Drew Franklin
I do love that he came in though, so strong.
- [34:50]
Ryan Lemon
So.
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Drew Franklin
DraftKings. No. Do not bet on the, on the Little League World Series. But you can bet on UFC 319. It's blowing back in the Windy City for the first time since in six years. Help me with these names.
- [35:01]
Evan
I was hoping you would. That is Drinkus. Duplessis Drinkus.
- [35:06]
Drew Franklin
Your Plessis is going up against.
- [35:10]
Evan
That is Kamzat Shimovu.
- [35:13]
Drew Franklin
That's. It's not Kamzat Shimova. He's a perfect 14 0. And they're gonna fight this weekend. UFC on DraftKings. Don't miss out on the action. Download the Sportsbook app now. Use my code KSR for new customers to get 5, 200 in bonus bets. When you bet just $5. It is duplices versus Chimova. I couldn't say it any better. Only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. If you have a gaming problem, call 1-800-GAMBLER18 plus Kentucky only LGBT shrinking supply bonus picks power six days after issuance. For digital time, Responsible gaming resources see DKNG CO Audio. We'll take a break. Be right back. Say hey to Mario here at the Kentucky State Fairs Radio. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live at the state fair. You can get a flu shot and get a free Kroger gift card for the first 250. 50 folks here. You come on out. They're doing them right here to the. To the right of us. 859-280-2287. Let's talk quickly. Well, first of all, there was a man. I'm not gonna point out which one he was because I don't know if he wants me to, but there was a man who just came over here and showed us a video that he visited Duke University, my law school alma mater, and he walked to the front sign. By the way, I've walked through that gate hundreds of times. He walked through the front sign in his Kentucky gear and Kentucky shorts and then proceeded to pee on the Duke sign.
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Evan
Can't be doing that. He did it, though.
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Ryan Lemon
He got away with it in broad daylight, let's add.
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Drew Franklin
How long ago was that? How long ago? That's what I was gonna say.
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Evan
Yeah.
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Ryan Lemon
I wonder if it's the guy yelling.
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Evan
I don't know, like, what the penalty is for that, but it wouldn't be worth it for me.
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Drew Franklin
Who could it be? Could it be the guy screaming statue of limitations?
- [37:11]
Ryan Lemon
I think in the video he's wearing a Tyrese Maxi jersey, so it puts.
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Evan
It with Tyrese Maxi that did it, not him.
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Drew Franklin
I would keep that video. You're. You're right next to the Jefferson County Sheriff's office.
- [37:24]
Evan
Don't, don't airdrop that.
- [37:26]
Drew Franklin
Make sure you keep that one to yourself.
- [37:28]
Ryan Lemon
Now that haircut wouldn't give it away.
- [37:31]
Drew Franklin
Let's quickly talk about yesterday. They announced BBN United.
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Evan
Oh, great tournament. Great round robin.
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Drew Franklin
No, no, no. This is the, this is the fan thing.
- [37:41]
Evan
Oh, okay.
- [37:42]
Drew Franklin
Proof of their marketing. This is the fan thing. So if you didn't see the fan, this is the fan like experience. Right. So you can, you can join this and you can become, you know, you can join these various things. So here's what they are. They have cats club, that's $100 a year. Club Blue is $320 a year. Select is $750 a year, Premier is $1400 a year and Elite is $2600 a year. You get various things. I'll read you just let's say the 750$1. Let me tell you what you get. Which of these would you want? Sure. A welcome pack and two annual merchandise boxes. No all access behind the scenes content.
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Evan
That'd be cool.
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Drew Franklin
Okay. Invite to open practice.
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Evan
That's cool. I like that.
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Drew Franklin
A virtual facility tour. No, I like that they couldn't bother.
- [38:42]
Ryan Lemon
Let you actually see.
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Evan
I can't actually go in.
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Drew Franklin
Here's what I don't understand about the virtual facilities tour. You're already there.
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Evan
Yeah.
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Drew Franklin
Why can't you go to the practice?
- [38:51]
Evan
Yeah.
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Drew Franklin
Are they just gonna make you walk out like you're already there? So if you're already at the facility. Are you telling me I can't see the facility, Drew, when I'm already there?
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Evan
Open up a couple of doors. You're right. Yeah, you're right there.
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Drew Franklin
You get member voting. You get to vote.
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Evan
Oh, vote on what?
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Drew Franklin
I don't know. You vote people out of the club.
- [39:10]
Evan
Yeah.
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Ryan Lemon
Get out of BB and United.
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Drew Franklin
I thought that was kind of funny. You get to vote, but I have no idea what you would vote on.
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Evan
Yeah, I don't know about that one yet.
- [39:20]
Drew Franklin
Big blue mat. And I like this. You get early access to bit Blue, white game tickets.
- [39:27]
Evan
Early access or how much are those tickets? But not the tickets.
- [39:31]
Drew Franklin
But not the tickets. You get access.
- [39:33]
Evan
If I'm paying that kind of money, I should get the tickets.
- [39:35]
Drew Franklin
I kind of agree with you.
- [39:36]
Evan
Yeah.
- [39:37]
Drew Franklin
You get to be in the sweepstakes for Big Blue Madness tickets. Now correct me if I'm wrong, isn't everyone in the Sweet Snakes for Big Blue Madness tickets?
- [39:47]
Ryan Lemon
Yes.
- [39:47]
Evan
I thought so.
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Drew Franklin
And then finally you get to be part of expanded sweepstakes.
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Evan
I don't even know what that means. So like two of the things that you mentioned, the open practice and one other thing I would be interested in behind the scenes stuff. Other than that, I don't know.
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Drew Franklin
On the fourteen hundred dollar a year one, you also get a virtual meet and greet with the players.
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Evan
Oh, I get to zoom with Jaden?
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Ryan Lemon
No, no, no. Basketball or football. It's another tear up for basketball or football players. That's like probably a swim.
- [40:19]
Drew Franklin
This is basketball or football, not guaranteed.
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Evan
Oh, I get to talk to like a bowler, somebody on the rifle team, but via zoom. Oh, wow.
- [40:28]
Ryan Lemon
After you zoom, the facility tour.
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Evan
And how much I gotta pay for that?
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Drew Franklin
That's 1400, please. Now if you get up to $2600 a year, then you get a basketball.
- [40:38]
Evan
Oh, okay, I gotta pay 1200 more dollars just to go talk to a football player.
- [40:42]
Drew Franklin
You're gonna get responders.
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Evan
You're not selling me on this very well.
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Drew Franklin
No. Okay, so look, I'm seeing this, I'm giving it a hard time. I think this is important, Drew. But I also think, again, nobody asked me my opinion. This is pretty expensive stuff. I mean, this, the first tier is a hundred dollars. But all you get at a hundred dollars is quote, exclusive perks. But it doesn't even say what they are. And then everything I just read you starts at $320 a year. I mean, that's really expensive. I. I think they're gonna have to give a little bit more to people. To me, of all those things, they say the open practice is kind of the coolest one of all of them, to be honest.
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Ryan Lemon
It is.
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Evan
But.
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Ryan Lemon
Well, there's, there's two types of people that are gonna join the club. There are the people who just want to give the money and don't. Maybe they live out of town. Sure, I get a T shirt, whatever. Here's a thousand bucks. I just want us to be good, that they'll get them regardless. But that's a pretty underwhelming list of experiences for the other people that are signing up to get something in return.
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Evan
I mean, call me crazy, but I would rather take my $320 and buy a ticket to a game than spend it on that.
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Drew Franklin
I think you've got to. I mean, I think fans want to support it, but I sit here and look at the fans here. I just, this is, I just want Kentucky to not forget about the average fan. Like this whole $750 a year. That's nice, but the heart of Big Blue Nation are people that come to the state fair to watch a random radio show on a Friday. And I just worry we keep moving farther and farther away from that to get to this group of virtual meet and greets or virtual tours. This is why Big Blue Nation is great. We just can't get away from that. Even though I know we need to raise money. But I thought for J with the jmi, that's how we were getting all the money to begin with. So I don't know. We'll take a break. Be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio live at the state Fair.
- [42:47]
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