2025-08-15- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

Detailed Summary of KSR - Hour 2 Episode (August 15, 2025)

Podcast Information:

• Title: KSR
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM)
• Description: Matt Jones and the KSR crew bring you the latest in UK news and views Mon.-Fri. from 10 to noon.
• Episode: 2025-08-15- KSR - Hour 2
• Release Date: August 15, 2025

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Introduction

The August 15, 2025, episode of KSR, a collaboration between iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM), takes listeners live to the Kentucky State Fair. Hosted by Shannon The Dude, Ryan Lemon, and Billy Rutledge, the episode navigates through a variety of topics ranging from state fair activities and internal host dynamics to in-depth discussions on college sports funding and emerging NCAA gambling probes.

State Fair Highlights and Activities

The episode kicks off with the hosts discussing ongoing events at the Kentucky State Fair:

• Flu Shots and Gift Cards: They promote free flu shots provided by the Kentucky Association of Health Plans (KAHP), available throughout the fair. Attendees who receive a flu shot are also eligible for Kroger gift cards.

  • Shannon The Dude [00:30]: "There you go, we're Kentucky fans in Louisville. We can do better than that."

• Granny Contest and Animal Cracker Conspiracy: The hosts introduce two main events scheduled for the night—the Granny Contest and the Animal Cracker Conspiracy.

  • Shannon The Dude [03:42]: "Tonight at 5 o'clock, there's the granny contest."

Internal Host Dynamics and Humor

A humorous yet slightly tense exchange unfolds regarding a tweet involving pre-show host Billy Rutledge:

• Tweet Incident: Shannon The Dude shares a tweet featuring Billy with a pacifier, leading to playful teasing and light-hearted tension.
  • Ryan Lemon [03:01]: "He had a pacifier in his mouth. I could not resist the urge to take a picture of a grown man with a binky in his mouth."
  • Shannon The Dude [02:50]: "He's so mad at Shannon."

College Sports Funding and Donor Influence

A significant portion of the episode delves into the complexities of fundraising and donor influence in college sports:

• Tragedy of the Commons in Sports Funding: Shannon The Dude explains the concept of the tragedy of the commons and its application to fan fundraising for college sports.

  • Shannon The Dude [07:00]: "The tragedy of the commons. It's also like why you have to hire people to clean parks."

• Kansas Alumnus Donation: The hosts discuss a hypothetical scenario where a Kansas alumnus donates $300 million to enhance the sports program, exploring the pressures and expectations that come with such a significant contribution.

  • Ryan Lemon [18:26]: "This is something. When this came up, the change in the college landscape..."

Uniform Deals and Rival School Sponsorships

The discussion shifts to uniform deals among SEC schools, highlighting Kentucky’s surprising position in revenue rankings:

• Tennessee's Shift to Adidas: Shannon announces Tennessee’s switch from Nike to Adidas with a $20 million per year deal, noting Kentucky ranks fourth in SEC apparel revenues.
  • Shannon The Dude [21:10]: "Kentucky's actually fourth. Now the only three schools ahead of Kentucky are Texas, Texas A&M, and Tennessee."

Emerging NCAA Gambling Probe

A critical segment addresses the federal Department of Justice’s ongoing gambling probe targeting college sports, particularly Southern schools:

• Gambling Probe Details: Shannon emphasizes the seriousness of gambling in college sports, stating it’s a federal crime with severe consequences.

  • Shannon The Dude [37:00]: "Look, it's a federal crime. Like, if you manipulate a score or even if you manipulate how many points you score, it is a federal crime and you could end up in prison."

• Detection and Consequences: Ryan and Billy discuss how authorities detect irregular betting patterns and the potential fallout for involved individuals.

  • Billy Rutledge [38:33]: "They can spot it a lot easier than people realize."

Fan Interactions and Listener Contributions

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with callers, addressing various sports-related inquiries and personal anecdotes:

• Ellie de la Cruz at Kentucky Games: A caller suggests inviting Reds star Ellie de la Cruz to a Kentucky basketball game, prompting a discussion on his popularity.

  • Shannon The Dude [09:33]: "If you're a Reds fan, you would know."

• Unique Fair Foods: Sean from Austin inquires about exclusive fair foods, sparking a humorous exchange about corn dogs and lemon shake-ups.

  • Caller [10:45]: "What are some crazy fair food you can only get at the fair?"

• Accessing Reds Games for the Visually Impaired: Jake seeks advice on listening to Cincinnati Reds games due to visual impairment, leading Shannon to offer online listening options.

  • Caller [33:00]: "I can't watch the games because, you know, I can't see, so what good does that do?"

Team Projections and Player Development

The hosts provide in-depth analysis of team performance and player potential, focusing on the importance of key players:

• Jalen Lowe's Impact: A caller discusses expectations for Jalen Lowe, highlighting his potential to elevate the team’s performance.

  • Shannon The Dude [27:53]: "To me, this team is just all about Jalen Lowe. What Jalen Lowe does."

• Offensive and Defensive Improvements: The conversation explores whether the team will replicate last year’s high-scoring performance or improve defensively.

  • Shannon The Dude [28:11]: "We're gonna have to live with him because who's his backup?"

Conclusion and Upcoming Events

As the episode wraps up, the hosts share information about upcoming events and express appreciation for their audience:

• Upcoming Activities: Announcement of the KSR golf scramble on Monday and the restaurant opening next week.

  • Shannon The Dude [42:00]: "KSR golf scramble is on Monday. So we will all be out there on Monday."

• Final Interactions: Light-hearted banter continues as the hosts sign off, maintaining their friendly rapport.

  • Shannon The Dude [43:03]: "Billy is flipping Shannon off."

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Ryan Lemon [07:13]: “One doesn’t necessarily equal the other.”
• Shannon The Dude [08:17]: “If you think about it, like, taxes are this. Like, they take it out now so that in theory, things we all share can get taken care of.”
• Shannon The Dude [27:53]: “To me, this team is just all about Jalen Lowe. What Jalen Lowe does.”

Final Thoughts

This episode of KSR skillfully blends humor, listener interactions, and insightful discussions on pressing issues in college sports. The hosts provide a comprehensive and engaging listening experience, making the complex topics accessible while maintaining an entertaining atmosphere. Whether you're a dedicated sports enthusiast or a casual listener, this episode offers valuable perspectives and lively conversations.

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For those who missed the episode, this summary encapsulates the dynamic discussions and key insights shared by the KSR team during their live broadcast from the Kentucky State Fair.

Transcript

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[Shannon The Dude]

It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live at the Kentucky State Fair. First of all, we're Kentucky fans in Louisville. We can do better than that. Welcome back to Kentucky Sports Radio here live. There we go. We gotta make sure card fans knows who owns this city here. Kentucky association of Health plans free flu shots throughout the state fair and the Kroger gift cards are throughout the state fair. It was not just, it's not just during this you can come get your flu shot, get a gift card, buy groceries. They're, they're, they're, they're expensive. I hear vegetables are going, you see vegetables going up so that's why you shouldn't eat them. But nevertheless you can still come and get your flu shot and it'll all be all be good. There's a lot of controversy here right now Drew because Shannon the dude just tweeted a picture of Billy and Billy is clearly very angry. The pre show host I saw somebody earlier had a KSR pre show host Craig, KSR pre show shirt. Save that one. That could become. Because Billy is very mad at Shannon. Shannon tweeted out a picture. Well, I'll let everybody look at it on Twitter. Why did you tweet that?

[Ryan Lemon]

Do you want me to delete it? He's. He won't even look at me. He won't even look at me right now. I'll delete it if you really want.

[Shannon The Dude]

Me to, but it's too late. I mean.

[Ryan Lemon]

Well, no, I could delete it.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, but you act like nobody look, he's so.

[Ryan Lemon]

He was turning his back to me right now.

[Shannon The Dude]

You act like nobody could have already seen. Like somebody could already saved it. It's not going anywhere. Like, once it's out.

[Ryan Lemon]

He had a pacifier in his mouth. I could not resist the urge to take a picture of a grown man with a binky in his mouth.

[Shannon The Dude]

I'm just saying there might be some pre show host animosity going for the future.

[Billy Rutledge]

I worry about the pre show sometimes. Sometimes they're. They're bickering on there like a married couple. Now Billy won't even look his direction. I accidentally hit retweet. I didn't mean to do.

[Shannon The Dude]

Oh, no. Oh, no. Just for the record, people sometimes think I'm mean to Ryan. Those two are a lot meaner to each other than I am. All right, I'm gonna give you a couple more state fair events real quick. Tonight at 5 o', clock, there's the granny contest.

[Ryan Lemon]

A granny contest?

[Shannon The Dude]

Oh, no.

[Billy Rutledge]

Just bring your granny, I think.

[Shannon The Dude]

Is it like a sexy granny contest?

[Ryan Lemon]

I hope so.

[Shannon The Dude]

Is it? Wait a minute. You're. You're the granny, right?

[Ryan Lemon]

That's Grandma Sarah.

[Billy Rutledge]

Speaking of sexy granny.

[Shannon The Dude]

Granny.

[Ryan Lemon]

Come on, stick around. You might win a gold medal today. Before you leave.

[Shannon The Dude]

I don't know what the granny contest is, Shannon, but whatever it is, good luck to all of the grannies that are in it.

[Ryan Lemon]

I might still be here. I'll let you know. I'll be your reporter then.

[Shannon The Dude]

Also competing against the granny contest is Animal cracker Conspiracy.

[Ryan Lemon]

Nobody's going to that if the granny contest is going on.

[Shannon The Dude]

But what do we think of animal cracker conspiracy?

[Billy Rutledge]

I like a good conspiracy, though. I don't know what's going on with animal crackers. I might check that one out after I see the granny competition. There's one on here called Most Wanted. Do they just, like bring all the most wanted together and have them sign in?

[Ryan Lemon]

Probably a few out here roaming around.

[Shannon The Dude]

That's they're trying to trickle. Yeah, if you're one of the most wanted people. They tell you to come, and then.

[Billy Rutledge]

They get you free gift card.

[Shannon The Dude]

Then you're caught and they, they, you know, it's very clever way to solve it. One person writes, matt, you and the other guys are casuals. I, I don't. That's a big thing. People call each other casual casuals. Yeah, casuals. True UK fans would give money to BBU at N. United so that UK wins.

[Ryan Lemon]

That does not mean you're going to win.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah. Okay, so the thing about. Here's why you have to give perks. So let me give you an example. This is what that we've talked about this before, but it's called the tragedy of the commons. So if I were to go to all of you and say, is it worth it to you to pay $5 so that there's a nice park in your town? Almost everybody's gonna say, yes. Almost everybody's gonna say, you know what? I'd like a nice park in my town. $5 is fine. However, if you say, here's a number, here's a link to click, click this link and give us five dollars for the park. A lot of people won't do it because they'll think, well, somebody else will do it, right? Like, I don't need to do it. Somebody else will do it. It's the tragedy of the commons. It's also like why you have to hire people to clean parks. Everybody wants clean parks, but nobody wants to sit there and actually pick up the trash, right? So you have taxes and you have other things that force people to give the $5 because otherwise they wouldn't do it. What worries me about things, and this was true of Club Blue too, what worries you is I think everybody, if I were to say to you, Shannon, is it worth a hundred dollars to you for Kentucky to be good at sports? I think we'd all say yes, but that's different than clicking the button to give a hundred dollars. So the way you click get people to click the button, the hundred dollars, is to give them something. Give them something immediate, whatever it is that makes them want to click the button. And so the question is not whether or not it's worth a hundred dollars or six hundred dollars or whatever. The question is, can you give enough stuff to make me click the button to make this happen? And that's what I think. These things have to work that and too.

[Ryan Lemon]

I mean, if there was a magic wand and that said, you can wave this wand and you give a hundred dollars and it will guarantee Kentucky will be competitive in football. Everybody. I would do it, but there's no guarantee on that either. So it doesn't necessarily. One doesn't necessarily equal the other.

[Shannon The Dude]

So I think that's the great. That's. I mean, think about taxes. Everybody wants to have a government, everybody wants to have a police force. Everybody. All this at the same time. If the IRS doesn't exist, nobody would pay their taxes because you just wouldn't want to. Like, you just be like, well, if I can get away with it, then it'll be fine. So I do. I do wonder if it's enough. By the way, one of the things you get to vote on, I'm told, is you get to your. There'll be one game during the year where the people in BBU and United get to vote on what uniforms the players wear.

[Ryan Lemon]

That's kind of cool. I like that.

[Shannon The Dude]

It's kind of cool.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah. You know, I think that the Jorts would probably be the one that's going to win.

[Shannon The Dude]

What do you.

[Billy Rutledge]

Do they give us options or do we literally get to just vote for whatever we think Kentucky should wear that day? That would be a lot of fun.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah. If they would really open it up, like.

[Billy Rutledge]

Like a overalls, like a suggestion box. You could add your own overalls. You were onto something with, you know, $5 coming out. Take care of the park. Why don't take $5 out of everyone's paycheck, just Kentucky games?

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, just. I mean, that's not going to happen. But if you think about it, like, taxes are this. Like, they take it out now so that in theory, things we all share can get taken care of. Now, of course, a lot of people think we waste the money. I. I get all that, but that's what taxes are, so. But there's really not a BB in tax, so you have to voluntarily do it. I think it's interesting, though, if the government were to charge everybody $25 for Kentucky to have a Final Four competitive roster and take it out of your checks, I probably would support that, to be honest with you.

[Ryan Lemon]

What if you live in Louisville, though? They take it out.

[Shannon The Dude]

No, they can't take my money for a little.

[Ryan Lemon]

I'm just saying, like, I live, you know, close to Louisville. What if they were to take it out and give it to them instead?

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, they can't. Well, you know, like, when you go to uk, you would know this better than I do. Drew, don't they have, like, student activities fees or something? Don't they. They charge you Sure.

[Billy Rutledge]

I think you're thinking highly of my UK experience there.

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, you did it. You did the first year three times. So I felt like you.

[Billy Rutledge]

Because I wasn't going to many student activities.

[Ryan Lemon]

I'm already paying school taxes for kids I don't have, so.

[Shannon The Dude]

Very good. So do I. For kids. I'll probably. Who's up next? Kyle is up next. Kyle, Go ahead, Kyle. Hey, fellas.

[Caller]

Matt, I just want to say you at least have one Reds fan that likes all the Reds talk and.

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, thank you.

[Caller]

I just, I want. Oh, no problem. Drew. Drew and Shannon, thank you to your Braves for getting us this close. And Matt, the UK Bass, you got to try to get Ellie to come to a Kentucky basketball game and do the Y one time and that's all I got.

[Shannon The Dude]

Oh, I would love that. I would love that. I would love to have Ellie as the. As the. Why do you think I left? People at Rupp arena would even know who he is, though. Like, what percentage of RUP arena do you think would know who Ellie De la Cruz is?

[Ryan Lemon]

Well, they always introduce the person. But you're saying without the introduction.

[Shannon The Dude]

No, no, no. I mean if they said Ellie de la Cruz, Reds, do you think how many people be like, oh yeah, I've heard of that guy?

[Ryan Lemon]

I think more than what you think, so.

[Shannon The Dude]

I hope so. Yeah.

[Billy Rutledge]

Go about half be worth doing if he would do it.

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, first of all, if you listen to this show, you would know. Yeah, right. So that. There you go. If you're a Reds fan, you would know.

[Ryan Lemon]

Even if you're a casual baseball fan, you know who that is.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah. So maybe there'd be more. More than you think. 859-280-2287. Who's next? Sean from Austin is next. Sean from Austin. Go ahead, Sean.

[Caller]

Hey guys, great show. I wish I could be there to smell the fair. When I was a kid, I always had to get these hand squeezed lemonade and a deep fried Oreo. And I was wondering like what are some crazy fair food you can only get like at the fair and like.

[Shannon The Dude]

What do you guys. We talked earlier about the Cheetos.

[Ryan Lemon]

Corn dog.

[Shannon The Dude]

Corn dog.

[Billy Rutledge]

Today he's. They're outside. I'll show you in the midway. He's right about those lemon shake ups. It's sugar, lemon water. It shouldn't be that hard to make. But there's something about how they make them at the fair. I don't know if they put crack in them. Too much sugar. I don't know what it is. The fair lemon Shake ups are good.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, probably.

[Caller]

And last thing.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Caller]

And George Costanza said about the kid that was 12 years old, about the red. You know, it's not a lie if you believe it.

[Shannon The Dude]

That's true. That's true. Although it was a lie. He went to Valparaiso, Lloyd McLendon and was not drafted until he's 21, which may be that guy's dyslexic. And he just had the numbers flipped. He saw 21 and he was actually plausible explanation. Appreciate the call. A Couple open lines. 859280, 2287. You we're all friends here, so, like, you guys know what we do, etc. So I'm gonna give you some little behind the scenes. So the NFL show, which is probably going to be announced a week from Monday, I think for me and Drew, we've been. We did something that is like against my nature, which is we did a test show. We did like a full show that no one will ever hear because I thought we needed to like practice. And we have all these cameras and Billy and Mario and Nathan have been setting up cameras. We have lights. It actually like we're almost getting professional. I mean, not yet, but we're. There's.

[Ryan Lemon]

Slow down.

[Billy Rutledge]

Mario's like hitting buttons on the.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, Mario. Like one of these editing things where you hit buttons and you go, camera one, camera two, camera three. So we did a practice show and you know, Drew and I've been doing shows together for 15 years, so I kind of know how we vibe. And I would say when it was over, I was thinking, you know, that was probably like a B minus Matt and Drew show. Maybe a C plus Matt and Drew show. I'm not worried about it. But I was like, you know, we can do better. So we. So Billy, you don't even know this yet. Billy sent it off to the NFL people and I was a little nervous about sending it Shannon, because I was like, we can do better than that. They said the content was quote, excellent and through the roof. Wow.

[Ryan Lemon]

Imagine when you're actually on your game.

[Shannon The Dude]

Honestly, that wasn't even very good. Like, we can do better than that. So Drew, that was encouraging, right?

[Billy Rutledge]

Actually, Billy shared with that yesterday. Even said use the word outstanding also in there. I'm with you. You know, I had fun, but it was our first one. We're still figuring out the format. It was truly just getting some shots up. So if they liked our. Our dress rehearsal, I'm looking forward to when we finally got our rooms.

[Shannon The Dude]

That wasn't Even real.

[Ryan Lemon]

Is it possible X expectations were so low.

[Billy Rutledge]

Yes.

[Ryan Lemon]

That they were like, you know what?

[Shannon The Dude]

Very possible.

[Ryan Lemon]

This is great.

[Shannon The Dude]

So you will hear on. If you listen to KSR or other I heart podcast, you're gonna start to hear the promos on it. Those promos come from the test show that Drew and I just did. And so, I mean, I'm. I'm. I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm nervous about it. I realized doing that test show. I don't know enough about this. On espn. On espn, I can just go to the phones or make fun of Myron. Like, I can just do something like that. This is, you know, when you're trying to break down, like, a preseason game, Shannon, I may have to do. I got to do a little bit more work.

[Ryan Lemon]

We got one tonight. I mean, you want to break down.

[Billy Rutledge]

That preseason game for tonight's Falcons?

[Shannon The Dude]

I don't want to watch it. I have no interest in it. But I'm probably gonna have to turn it on because, you know, that's the way it goes.

[Ryan Lemon]

That sounds like at least you guys are having fun. And, you know, it's cover zero, so you're acknowledging you don't know anything. So you just play up that and you'll be fine.

[Shannon The Dude]

A big shout out to Mario and Billy and Nathan. That works back there. They are working really hard. Like, they. Like, it's not gonna. When it comes out, it's not gonna look perfect, but, like, it's gonna look a lot better than it could have. And so big shout out to them. Tell me about Stockton Mortgage. I gave you a read.

[Ryan Lemon]

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[Shannon The Dude]

Hang on. It's let off. Fireworks are great.

[Ryan Lemon]

That's what it says. Fireworks are great.

[Shannon The Dude]

You think this was for July 4th?

[Ryan Lemon]

Probably.

[Shannon The Dude]

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[Ryan Lemon]

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[Shannon The Dude]

Stockton.com well done, Stockton.

[Ryan Lemon]

Thank you.

[Shannon The Dude]

Who needs Ryan? We'll take a break. Be right back. Here at the Kentucky State Fair, this is KSR. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-774-5254. Here at the Kentucky State Fair with Kentucky association of Health Plans, you can get your free flu shot along. And if you do, you can also get a Kroger gift card. We've got great crowd here. Folks knew they didn't have chairs still came out, and we very much appreciate them. One person writes, matt, you are a stinking liberal. I hope you see at the. The fair, there are no Kamala Harris flags. No, they're not. You're exactly right about that. This is. This is.

[Ryan Lemon]

Haven't seen one yet.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, well, I've been here a number of years. I've never seen one. This is like, if you were gonna pick. I'm not saying everybody, but if you're gonna pick in terms of merchandise, this is definitely a maga merchandise place. I've. I've. There's no doubt about that. I try on a lot of the stuff. I probably will afterwards.

[Billy Rutledge]

Where did you get your Kamala Fl Here.

[Shannon The Dude]

I made it myself. I actually sewed it. It was good.

[Ryan Lemon]

I saw that they have many places where you can get pocket knives over there if you want to get, you know, your buddy a new. Yeah, A new pocket knife for your friend. Yeah, there's several places over there where you can get those.

[Shannon The Dude]

I don't know what I would use it for, though.

[Ryan Lemon]

No, get. Not for you. For your friend. Give him another one. You know, he had to leave it. He did lose it at the casino, so.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, maybe that's what, you know, today's his birthday.

[Ryan Lemon]

There you go. That's a great birthday gift.

[Billy Rutledge]

We're really narrowing this down.

[Shannon The Dude]

Don't tell him it's his birthday. I'm gonna take him a new pie. There.

[Ryan Lemon]

That is perfect. There's something for everybody at the state fair.

[Shannon The Dude]

That's exactly right.

[Billy Rutledge]

A year ago, I was with you back there and you bought like, some salsa to make it home. Did you make it at home?

[Shannon The Dude]

I think I left it my car still, but. But it probably. So I can. I can have it, I think. Salsa's good. Warm.

[Billy Rutledge]

Yeah.

[Shannon The Dude]

So it's okay? Yeah. Been frozen.

[Billy Rutledge]

Good stuff.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah. 859-280-2287. Let's talk about our rivals. Some of the stuff they're doing. We'll start with the Kansas. Kansas alumnus gave $300 million to Kansas to use for nil over the course of the next 20 years. He basically said, I got 20 years left on earth. I want us to be good at sports. Here's $300 million. What do you think about that?

[Ryan Lemon]

I think everybody needs a friend like that. Just give you $300 million. There's a lot of pressure on you, though, if you're a program like Kansas. I think if you get that kind of money and you don't win a championship, people want to know why.

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, no, I mean, it's, it's a blessing. But if you're like, first of all, this guy says he only has 20 years to live.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Shannon The Dude]

And I don't know how much he's worth, but $300 million got to be a big chunk of it. I mean, I. Unless he's Jeff Bezos.

[Ryan Lemon]

That's what I was wondering. Is this Warren Buffett?

[Shannon The Dude]

That's a pr. First of all. Also, if I'm his kids, I'm like.

[Ryan Lemon]

Hello, yeah, you love Kansas basketball more than me.

[Shannon The Dude]

Or maybe he's just like me and he doesn't have it. I mean, if I had $300 million, I don't know if I, I wouldn't give it all to uk, but I could see myself going, let's get a good five year run here, you know, so. But it is a lot of pressure for Kansas, isn't it?

[Billy Rutledge]

Yeah. Especially with this. I mean, you gotta, you got a hard deadline with this guy. Might even try freezing him. I don't know how that works.

[Ryan Lemon]

Get a win before he dies.

[Billy Rutledge]

This is something. When this came up, the change in the college landscape, and it happened at a big school like Kansas, but this could happen anywhere where someone just on their way out drops an enormous bag and says, go crazy. Go see what you can win.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah. I think one of the interesting things to see is like, we don't think about this, but let me give you a practical thing that teams are going to have to deal with. Let's say you're a team and you have like a big donor. And There are probably 20 schools around college sports that have one person that gives most of their money. All right, let's say a person dies, okay. Then their spouse or their kids are going to decide whether to keep this going. And chances are a lot of times they're going to be like, nah, you know, and so I do think all of a sudden you got like a lot of pressure on. You've been to the doctor, man.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah.

[Shannon The Dude]

How's everything going?

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah, going again. I know Bill Self just had A heart attack. He doesn't need this extra pressure.

[Shannon The Dude]

But, I mean, there is a sense of. Look, can we go ahead and get this in, Ryan?

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah, exactly.

[Shannon The Dude]

I do think there's, you know, you got individuals now that have a lot of. A lot of power over.

[Billy Rutledge]

Can you take out an insurance policy on your biggest donor?

[Ryan Lemon]

That's a good question.

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, I do like the idea. I got 20 years left on this. I want a Kansas. He said, Kansas has really not had a great football team since I've been here. It's time for me to get one before I die. So we'll see if it works out.

[Billy Rutledge]

We need some of those.

[Ryan Lemon]

You can't pay anybody to live in Kansas. There's no way. I don't think 300 million is going to do anything.

[Billy Rutledge]

You're a school that has these big donors and they have kids. You have to recruit them. Like, yeah, bring your kid to everything, whatever suite your kid wants, wherever your kid, whatever they need. I want to make sure I'm in with them for the future.

[Shannon The Dude]

Tennessee resigned. Tennessee flip from Nike to Adidas. They just announced what their deal is. It is $16 million. Excuse me, $20 million a year. If you remember, we've talked about Adidas overpays, Louisville and Tennessee and those schools so that they'll have it. But in the process, they listed in the SEC what each school gets from like apparel deals from Nike or Adidas. I was kind of surprised to see Kentucky's actually fourth. Now the only three schools ahead of Kentucky are Texas, Texas A and M and Tennessee. We actually get more in revenue than Alabama and Georgia, which surprised me. Now it may just be that their deals haven't come up again and the next time it'll be more. But were you surprised by that?

[Billy Rutledge]

Yeah, for right now, I'll take that. I mean, that's a huge deal for Tennessee and they were Adidas school. It seemed like forever until fairly recently. Always had them as an Adidas school in mind. So they're just going back to those roots. But you can't deny they got a nice payday to go back and do that.

[Shannon The Dude]

And then finally, Shannon, Oklahoma, trying to figure out ways to raise money, is going to sell to the fans the ability to have a day. They can buy a day in the Oklahoma media press box. You can pay 10 to 10 to $15,000 and you can sit in the press box for a game.

[Ryan Lemon]

Well, all of us have sat there for free with our media passes and I could tell you it's a lot more fun out there. With all the fans than it is in that sterile environment, which is the media press box where you can't cheer. It's quiet. It's not where I would want to watch a game. So there's no way I want to pay that kind of money to go there.

[Shannon The Dude]

Of all the fundraisers I've heard, Drew, this is the worst one. If you pay $10,000 to sit next to Rob Bromley and John Clay, no offense to Rob Bromley and John Clay and eat, like, stale barbecue, I feel like that's probably a bad decision.

[Billy Rutledge]

I mean, they can have my spot. Also, there is free coffee now. I think it was made the Saturday before, but you have that. The barbecue is good. Also made the Saturday before.

[Ryan Lemon]

Do you slept over there?

[Billy Rutledge]

You need to ask a question. I mean, I don't. I can't imagine paying to be in the press box. I can't think of anyone.

[Shannon The Dude]

Let me just.

[Billy Rutledge]

Maybe you got, like, a kid that.

[Shannon The Dude]

Wants to throw for all you folks here. If you were to just, like, go as my intern to the press box, you would have a really good time. You would think it's really cool. You would think it's interesting. But if you had paid $10,000 to go into the press box, you'd be like, I need a refund. Yeah, it would not. It is. It is cool, but it is not 10,000.

[Ryan Lemon]

I was there for five minutes. I was ready to leave.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah. We'll take a break. Be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio live at the state fair. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live at the Kentucky State Fair. We are brought to you by the Kentucky association of Health Plans. They are doing flu shots. The Kentucky office of highway Safety Safe summer driving tour is here. My guy, who's been listening since six years old, has stayed right here in the front with his sports is awesome Ryan Lemon T shirt. You've been painting in that, haven't you? It looks like. Yeah, it's all right. That's all right. Don't worry about it. You look. It looks great. One person writes, matt, do not buy your friend a pocket knife. For people who actually know about such things. It's like your mom buying you shoes bought me shoes. What's wrong with your mom buying you shoes? I think that's actually. You can't buy another man a pocket knife.

[Ryan Lemon]

I think you can. I think that's a great manly gift to give somebody.

[Shannon The Dude]

I'm going to go buy him a nice pocket knife for him to lose. Drew, the next time we go to.

[Billy Rutledge]

A casino, I think It's a great idea. Walking around here after the show. Shopping is my favorite part of this trip every year.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yep. 859280, 2287. Who's next? Got Adam up next. Adam, Go ahead, Adam. What's up guys?

[Caller]

Yesterday caller called in asking about three.

[Ryan Lemon]

Point shooting for next year's team.

[Caller]

I think you said you expected either an equal or lesser amount of volume. I'm kind of the other way. Now that you have Jalen Lowe who can get to the rim along with oa. I think that's going to open up more shots on the outside. Plus you have better offensive rebounding for kickbacks and things like that. So I'm kind of optimistic that you're.

[Shannon The Dude]

Going to have better offense. You're going to have to be really good to have better offensive rebounding. We, we rebounded pretty well last year for. Especially as the season went on. Now your point's valid though about driving to the basket and kicking out. We may have more open looks. So Drew, we might shoot a higher percentage. I'd be surprised if we had a higher number, but maybe, I mean it's.

[Billy Rutledge]

Plausible and driving a kicking back out is one of the things low does best. I think maybe even Pat Kelsey, one of the coaches last year in the post game raved about how he could just get to the rim with eyes in the back of his head. Next thing you know you've got a wide open three pointer. So that's something teams really have to look out for him because that's the way he likes to go.

[Ryan Lemon]

Do we feel like this is going to be a high scoring team like last year where you can score 100 on somebody like just on any given night? Kind of like that team last year. Do you think that'll be similar?

[Shannon The Dude]

Because I think part of what made us be able to score a hundred is we had guys who could get super hot. Right?

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah.

[Shannon The Dude]

So Kobe, Br. Like think about that Florida game when we won in RUP Arena. Kobe, Brya, Jackson, Robinson, all those dudes got. Got insanely hot. I let me put it like this. If Colin Chandler becomes a knockdown shooter, right? And if Aberdeen is getting a lot of minutes and is a not and J. I mean it's. It's possible, but I, I don't know that. I don't know. I just think this team is going to be so different from last year. They're going to be much improved defensively. I'm just not sure that they'll be better offensively. But you might still win more. Drew. Because you're so much better defensively.

[Billy Rutledge]

Yeah. And Pope likes to go. And let's assume Lowe's healthy. Hopefully nothing anything like last year ever again. But if you have a point guard with his. His pace, maybe they could play a lot faster. It kind of got stagnant when you had Perry out there still learning the ropes in the middle of SEC play. It was unfair for him, but it did some slow it down a little more than Pope likes to go.

[Shannon The Dude]

I know I've said this a lot, and you're going to hear me say it a lot more, and it. You're probably going to get tired of it. To me, this team is. It's just. How good is Jalen Low going to be? If Jalen Lowe's good, we can win the national championship. If Jalen Lowe's not good or is not as good as he should be, then I think this team kind of reminds me a little bit of last year. It'll be up and down and up and down. But I think if Jay, this team, it is all about Jalen Lowe. What Jalen Lowe does. I think, Drew, that's what this team does.

[Billy Rutledge]

And, you know, every summer there's a standout that doesn't really meet the expectations. Put them in the summer. But it's been exciting hearing what we've heard out of the small workouts they've had of low on campus and being a leader and looking like he's ready to be that guy at a place that's, you know, little notch up from Pittsburgh a year ago.

[Ryan Lemon]

That's the thing. I think there's a lot of potential there, but it's hard to compare his teammates that he was playing with at Pittsburgh to Kentucky this year.

[Shannon The Dude]

He had to take every shot. And if you've listened to Mark Pope, he said it on this show and he said it on others. He. He took, like, the worst shots in.

[Ryan Lemon]

The country last year because he had to.

[Shannon The Dude]

He was in the bottom five percentile of worst shots in the country because he had to. Right. Because he was playing with dude. So start making him. So there's two ways to look at that. One, if he takes good shots, he'll be great. Two, is. Is he capable of taking good shots? Those will be. That'll really be the question for the year. Is he a guy who, once you get him to take good shots, is awesome, or is he a guy who just is going to end up still kind of ball hogging? We'll have to see.

[Billy Rutledge]

In Pope's offensive mind, he's a Good coach and low has the pieces around him. He would almost have to be stubborn to come in and take bad shots at the rate he did a year ago with this team he'll be playing with now.

[Shannon The Dude]

But I will also note, by the way, we don't have any choice but to play him, in my opinion. So, like, good or bad, it's one of these things. We're gonna have to live with him because who's his backup? I mean, whoever. It'll be like when Jackson Robinson was a point guard. Whoever we have play backup. Point guard is not a point guard. So, like, he is. It's. It's live or die with. With Jalen Lowe. And I'm comfortable with it, but that's just the truth.

[Billy Rutledge]

I think so too. And it's the only spot that doesn't have a true backup. So if everyone on the roster, including away, might be the most important staying.

[Shannon The Dude]

Healthy, he is the most important player. Otega Way might be the best player, but he is the most important player on the team is low. Who's next? Lucas is next. Lucas, Go ahead, Lucas.

[Caller]

Hey, I just wanted to say I'm headed to see your cousin tonight in Cleveland and.

[Shannon The Dude]

Oh, is it. Is Morgan in Cleveland?

[Caller]

Yeah, he's playing tonight with Gavin Adcock and Miranda Lambert. I'm headed there now. We're gonna go see it tonight and.

[Shannon The Dude]

Then I'm sure it'll be fun.

[Caller]

Say was.

Oh, it'll be a blast. I can't wait. The other thing I wanted to say real quick was last night I was playing NCAA football as Kentucky playing against Toledo and rushing back was Chip Train them from Ohio State and then a former cat that played for us.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yep, he plays for Toledo and he will be ready to go against us. I appreciate the call. The I saw somebody do their early picks of the year for. For college football. They had Kentucky over Toledo because they thought Toledo was getting too much respect. Shannon, what do you think of that?

[Ryan Lemon]

I feel like we've been hearing a lot about Toledo in the off season, but I feel like that's probably just people maybe getting their hopes up, building it up, building up Toledo a little bit more than what they should. And I think Kentucky wins.

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, week one of the.

[Ryan Lemon]

They better win, let's put it that way.

[Shannon The Dude]

Week one of the college football season, it has a couple of pretty good games, but it has a lot of games where you're kind of stretching and people want to have a big upset. And you look at that, Drew, and you go, okay, this is one that could happen. And I think it's probably led some people to put more into it than they should.

[Billy Rutledge]

Everybody on the national scene that's having to do their previews and their predictions. You kind of got to have an upset pick. Nobody just wants to watch you pick chalk all the time. And if you look at week one, if we're being objective, Toledo at Kentucky is a pretty easy one to make as your upset pick. It's of all the games where you've got a power four going against the team outside their conference, it's probably the one with a smaller margin. So that's why a lot of teams are high on Toledo right now, because it's a. It's a trendy and easy way to pick an upset.

[Shannon The Dude]

By the way, there's a. I think There's a top 25 game next week already. I think a lot of people, Iowa State, Kansas State, I believe both teams are in the top 25. They play next Saturday. So you're gonna have a game one week from tomorrow, an actual college football game that counts. I believe it's in like Dublin. Iowa State and Kansas State are going to Dublin, Ireland and play.

[Billy Rutledge]

And I like in week one, the number one team in the country is an underdog. Texas sports playing Ohio State. Texas is number one in the country or week two.

[Shannon The Dude]

Excuse me, but yeah, that's.

[Billy Rutledge]

It's the second week.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Billy Rutledge]

Week one football.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah.

[Billy Rutledge]

After week zero, but first time ever, the number one team in the country starts out as an underdog in a game.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah. Are you going to watch? You know, that's going to be Lee Corso's final, final thing. Are you going to watch that?

[Ryan Lemon]

Absolutely. I love Lee Corso, an absolute legend, and I'm glad that he gets to go out on week one, you know, gets to come back for one more season and do his final farewell.

[Shannon The Dude]

So that'll be very cool, be very emotional and really, really neat thing. Remember, we play that game at. Do we play what we play at noon?

[Billy Rutledge]

12, 30.

[Shannon The Dude]

So we're gonna like. It'll be coming right into to our first game. Who's up next? Jake is next. Jake, Go ahead, Jake.

[Caller]

Yes. Matthew, how are you doing this morning?

[Shannon The Dude]

Good. Jake, what's up? Hey.

[Caller]

I was wanting to catch a Cincinnati Reds game before their season's over. How can I catch that on?

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, they're on television. You can watch them.

[Caller]

I can't watch the games because, you know, you know, I can't see, so I can't watch the games anyway. So what good does that do?

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, well, you can listen to them. I mean they're on. You can. You can listen to them. They're on 700 WLW. You can listen. They've got. Or they're. They're on every game.

[Caller]

I. Because I used to listen to them listen to them when I was going to school in. In Louisville when I was a kid. So I wanted to catch one.

[Shannon The Dude]

Well, you can. Where do you live again, Jake?

[Caller]

I'm in west Kentucky now. But I used to. But I used to.

[Shannon The Dude]

I'm sure they. I'm sure there's an affiliate out there. I'll tell you another thing you can do, Jake there. Are you a Reds fan?

[Caller]

That's what I'm trying to get back into it for. Because I was a Red fan back when. Back when.

[Shannon The Dude]

All right, Jake, I'll tell you what. When we get. When. When you get. Find a way to send me an email and you. I'll give you. And you can. I'll give you a way to listen online. Okay?

[Caller]

Yes, Sir.

[Shannon The Dude]

All right. AM 700 WLW AM.

[Caller]

Got you.

[Shannon The Dude]

All right. Thank you, Jake. Appreciate it. I don't. Not sure what else he wanted me to do.

[Ryan Lemon]

I don't know.

[Shannon The Dude]

I don't.

[Ryan Lemon]

Was he hinting at some free tickets or something? I'm not sure.

[Shannon The Dude]

Ah, Jake would never do that. We've got some exciting news to share today. Cornbread Hemp just launched their brand new infused gummy flavor, Cherry Lime Chill.

[Ryan Lemon]

And they have the Cornbread Hemp garden just outside here.

[Shannon The Dude]

It's out here?

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah. Here. For the first time, THC seltzers will be sold.

[Shannon The Dude]

Get seltzers at the state fair. Watch out, you two. Yep, I can just. You. You two look like a THC seltzer. Like if you were it literally, if you were to create what I think a THC seltzer looks like, the mascots, it would be the team. It would be the two of you. Cherry lime chill. It's all there. @cornbread hemp.com or outside here at the state fair, you can get your seltzers. Remember, use my code KSR for 20% off. It's the human Cornbread Hemp right here. Check it out. Cornbread Hemp. This is the good life. We'll take a break. Be right back. It's Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live at the Kentucky State Fair. Do a little chant for the folks. Drew, lead the people here so the Louisville fans can hear us. That's exactly right. That lets them know that the Jefferson county is still big Blue Territory here at the Kentucky State Fair. 859-280-2287. We are here live with the Kentucky association of Health Plans. Remember, for the rest of the state fair. Got a flu shot right here at kahp. You can get a Kroger gift card for doing it. People have been signing up, getting, getting their flu shot and ready to go. Drew will get one on the way out. Then we won't get the flu and everything will be good.

[Billy Rutledge]

I can't remember my last one. Does it hurt? If it's been a year, I think it's double up. Am I extra safe?

[Shannon The Dude]

I think you're supposed to do it every year because. Every year.

[Billy Rutledge]

But I mean, if I did it this year already, I can't remember.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, I think you only do it once a year. I don't think you.

[Billy Rutledge]

I'll get a second one just in case I need the Kroger gift card. Just do it for the groceries after this.

[Shannon The Dude]

I don't know if you're supposed to do.

[Billy Rutledge]

I want maximum protection.

[Shannon The Dude]

Double me up. Yeah. So There you go. 859-280-2287. If you didn't hear, the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. So that's federal Department of Justice prosecutors announced, well, announced that they are in the middle of a gambling probe about college football involving players in college football and basketball. And it said, quote, it is focusing on Southern schools. So generally speaking, what we've seen with these probes, Drew, is that they've been at smaller colleges, they've been at kind of small places where maybe there's not as much attention or not as much focus. But I have a feeling this, I mean, we've already seen, seen like three or four professional athletes lose their career from it. Couple in baseball, coupling, basketball. It's coming. Like there are going to be guys in college sports get in trouble. And what I would just say, you know, I like to gamble on sports as much as anybody, but if you're playing, I hope people realize. I hope kids realize, like, it's not a joke. Look, it's a federal crime. Like, if you, if you manipulate a score or even if you manipulate how many points you score, it is a federal crime and you could end up in prison. And like right now, they are investigating it. It's a bit. I think this is a big deal.

[Billy Rutledge]

And they can spot it a lot easier than people realize. Yes, you might be surprised. There aren't many people betting $10,000 on your little prop bet in your game or your small conference game. Anything that's out of the ordinary is a red flag, and they will look into it. And if it's something like a player prop that looks wonky, though, they'll fish that out pretty quickly.

[Ryan Lemon]

Or if you put it on your Venmo that you're betting on games, I mean, that. You know, that just go ahead and say, I did it, Oklahoma.

[Shannon The Dude]

On his Venmo, he was betting. Well, we don't know if he was betting on games, but allegedly it would be like a hundred dollars to Drew, and then it would say usc, ucla. Now, he says he was just kidding.

[Ryan Lemon]

But if you look back, it was on that same day that those two teams were playing. That's highly suspect.

[Shannon The Dude]

Do you think he was just kidding?

[Ryan Lemon]

No.

[Billy Rutledge]

I'm torn because on one hand, if you're in his shoes, you know to be cautious if you're actually gambling. But at the same time, why would you joke about that? The one thing that could really get you in trouble and derail your career, why would you make a joke?

[Ryan Lemon]

I think that he believed he had, like, a privacy setting to where that would not go public, and that's why he did it. But he didn't know that it went public where everybody could see it.

[Shannon The Dude]

If you're gonna lie, and I'm not advocating lying, but if you're gonna lie, that was a bad lie. Saying you're joking. Yeah, just be like, my friend and I were eating. That was the game that was on.

[Ryan Lemon]

There you go. See, you're a much better liar than he is.

[Shannon The Dude]

What would you say?

[Billy Rutledge]

My friend tried to gamble and he set his money down. I said, I cannot accept this. So I set. Sent it back on Venmo because he ran away. I was trying not to gamble, but he was trying so hard to gamble with me, I had to Venmo him.

[Ryan Lemon]

Why did that happen 10 times, sir, it's on your relentless.

[Billy Rutledge]

I wanted nothing to do with it. I wanted nothing to do with it, so I had to get it out of my account.

[Shannon The Dude]

That's right. Who's up next? Kevin is next. Kevin. Go ahead, Kevin.

[Caller]

Matt. Matt. That's very concerning about that probe. And I think we all know the number one two school they're going to hone in on is probably Nicholls State. So if I'm down there, I'm getting nervous.

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, you gotta watch out for nickel gamblers.

[Caller]

Second of all, I need you guys to square a neighborly dispute I'm having, okay? I've got. I always mow every seven days on the nose, okay? My neighbors seldomly mow we share a very small patch of grass, probably 40 yards long, 10 yards wide. It's tiny. And whenever I mow, I just mow their side because I. What is it to me? I don't even care. Multiple times now, they have mowed in a very passive aggressive fashion. Their side, not mine. Am I right in thinking they're jerks?

[Shannon The Dude]

Yes. Yes. I mean, anybody who would not accept. I appreciate the call. A free mo is in and of themselves a little bit of a jerk. Unless you're just a bad mower. And I don't even know how you can be a bad mower, but unless you're just a bad mower. If somebody want. I'm gonna say this again, unless I have a fence, if you want to mow my grass, have at it. I'm totally fine with it.

[Ryan Lemon]

You know, you get back at them like, just cut your side the normal height and then drop that thing all the way down to the. The lowest setting and just skin it on his side all the way down to the dirt. That'll be the last time that'll happen to you.

[Shannon The Dude]

Wow, you're really going for it. Okay.

[Billy Rutledge]

I'm the opposite. Don't mow my yard.

[Shannon The Dude]

Why don't you want people to mow your yard for?

[Billy Rutledge]

I just put weed killer down yesterday. I want somebody that needs to sit for a while before you go and just mow it. I gotta redo it again or I like to keep mine a little taller. What if you mow it shorter?

[Shannon The Dude]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Lemon]

What's your preference?

[Shannon The Dude]

Feel free to mow. My. My goal is to not get ticks. So if you will. If you will just. You just do what it is. You just set it on whatever setting is. Right? Yeah, I'm totally fine with that. Well, I want to thank everybody for coming out here to the state fair. Everybody give yourselves a round of applause. There's no better fan base than Kentucky. Let me give you a little scheduling for next week. KSR golf scramble is on Monday. So we will all be out there on Monday. Ryan will be back next week. We open the restaurant a week from Tuesday to the general public. And then we are 15 days away from kickoff of the Kentucky football season. Kentucky and Toledo, 15 days from now. Drew, thank you very much. Shannon, Billy is going to beat your tail.

[Ryan Lemon]

Yeah.

[Shannon The Dude]

Where is Bill?

[Ryan Lemon]

Let's go. I think he left in shame.

[Shannon The Dude]

Billy and his passing.

[Ryan Lemon]

There he is.

[Shannon The Dude]

Billy is flipping Shannon off.

[Ryan Lemon]

Hey, I got one of those too.

[Shannon The Dude]

All right, we will see you later. This has been Kentucky Smith Sports Radio.

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