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Ryan
Welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.
Matt Jones
Welcome back Techie Sports Radio 859-280-2287. Text machine 772-774-5254. Couple interesting theories here, Shannon. One person says Matt, now people will beg for the old Cracker Barrel like they did for the old Coke when they had New Coke. And it'll work.
Ryan
Maybe so if they actually, I mean.
Matt Jones
Like you're talk the last time we had a conversation about Cracker Barrel when we did the old outback versus cracker barrel at the 2016 Republican convention.
Shannon
Yeah, that's the last time we talked about that.
Matt Jones
Probably the last time like Chili's did that.
Ryan
Yeah.
Matt Jones
So like Chili's is doing pretty. Like Chili's is having a comeback because they kind of went away. I mean honestly, to some extent in, in a minor way, that's kind of what we did with KS Bar. We were like we're kind of going through this down groove where I felt like the food had slipped a little bit, like our service had slipped a little bit, like our, we just, it just the energy wasn't there. And I was like we can sit here and try to fix this on the fly or let's just go away for two or three months, fix everything, make the food better and then come back and then you get energy from, like, reappearing. I think that. I hope that worked for us. I know. I hear a lot more people say positive, positive things. We'll find out next few weeks, but I think that's probably the theory. Maybe that'll happen with Cracker Barrel. Like, they'll do all this and then everybody will go do it the other way, and then they'll be. Get excited about it.
Shannon
I think it's definitely going to work, what we're doing. I think we saw the excitement last night. But Cracker Barrel, though. You make it sound like they're going to rebrand everything. Rebrand the logo, rebrand the look.
Matt Jones
They took the barrel and the cracker off the logo. So, like, what are you going to. What are you going to do?
Shannon
Have the rocking chairs out front?
Ryan
Oh, yeah, yeah. They say they're still going to have that, but the CEO is acting like all this positivity is coming from their, their customers. And not one person in the comments section had anything positive to say. So I don't know where all this positivity is coming from.
Matt Jones
Well, people, people, look, see, that's also a personality type. Like, there are people who look for the positivity and, like, ignore the negativity.
Ryan
That's it.
Matt Jones
And then there are people like me who look at the negativity or the. But neither of them are totally right. You know what I mean?
Ryan
Like, reality.
Matt Jones
Neither of them are reality. That's exactly right. So you have to kind of find what that balance is. And some people don't look at any negativity. And I think that's a poor way to do things too, because then you can be deluded on what. You know what I mean? Like Cal. Cal ignored all negativity as. And if anybody was negative, it was because they were his enemy. Right? So he never really got an understanding of where the fan base was. Maybe the Cracker Barrel ladies like that too.
Shannon
Well, like you said, it's a good analogy with what you thought about KS Bar.
Matt Jones
I just thought we needed. So, like, I just thought we needed just a reset because, like, on the good days it was awesome, but on the bad, but on other days sometimes, and I was just like, we just need to reset, refocus. We needed to change some food items, which we did. I think they're a lot better. I think our burgers, boneless wings are a lot better. We got some new appetizers. We just needed a reset. And, like, you could feel it last night, like, that energy. Last night we hadn't had that in a while. Didn't you agree?
Shannon
It felt like one of our opening weekends.
Matt Jones
It did. And then we did that wings test a couple weeks ago and because we were going to try a new wing and then when we did it, we realized it didn't work, which is why I'm glad we did it. We were like, why are we changing this? Let's go back to what we had. That was good. So those 75 people. You're going to get something in your email that's a present for me because you taught us that what we did there didn't work.
Shannon
And I think we'll see another step tonight with the event tonight.
Matt Jones
Yeah, a lot of people coming tonight. Hopefully looking forward to seeing everybody tonight. All right, 859-280-2287. I'm going to get to the phone real quick, but two things. One, Mark Pope says he's meeting 30 minutes with every player on the roster individually every week.
Shannon
Yeah, it's a lot.
Matt Jones
So that's like seven hours just of 30 minute meetings. Shannon.
Ryan
Yeah.
Matt Jones
First of all, do you believe that?
Ryan
I don't know why he would lie about it.
Matt Jones
I agree.
Ryan
30 minutes, though, does feel like a lot every week, you know.
Matt Jones
Do you think you'd have 30 minutes worth of conversation?
Ryan
No, I think it's probably shaved down to more like 10 or 15. And that's probably how you can squeeze all these in in one week.
Matt Jones
So I doubt if anybody could do it though, it'd be Mark.
Ryan
Oh, could do it.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan
Do the players have that much to say?
Matt Jones
But they, maybe they don't have to talk much.
Shannon
Yeah, I, I can say this. And Shannon maybe would agree. When I played college baseball, the last thing I wanted to do, the last thing was to sit and talk to my coach for 30 minutes. You're, you're get kind of get sick of them. You're in practice all day long. You're in film all day long.
Matt Jones
Well, Mark says, though, did you, I heard in an interview, one of them he did maybe with Matt Norlander, that he doesn't talk a lot in practice because he doesn't want them to get tired of his voice. He said. So a lot of his talk is in other times, the assistants do a lot of the direct coaching in practice. He does bigger picture stuff because he doesn't want his players to be like, oh, I gotta listen to this guy some more.
Shannon
I know. That's what I felt like when you said that. They're gonna, he's going to be there in 30 minutes. That's exactly what I thought. I go, I got to go sit and listen to coach tell me what I'm doing wrong for another 30 minutes. Yeah, maybe he plays chess with these guys for 30 minutes. Those guys play chess with him. And he's.
Matt Jones
Yeah, you missed this last week. But Jaden Quaintance is five and one against him, which, I'm telling you, is the thing that makes me the most excited about Jaden Quaint. We knew he was a great athlete. We knew he's like a elite, elite defender. When I heard that Mark Pope, who is smart. So I'm going to assume he's good at chess. If Jaden is up 5:1 on him.
Shannon
It says something that's pretty good because.
Matt Jones
Colin Chandler's losing in their series, and Colin Chandler's apparently a pretty good shame. Quaint must be good at chef.
Shannon
Well, and then he's still, like, just like 18 years old now.
Ryan
What would DeMarcus cousin say about this?
Matt Jones
Well, this ain't no spelling.
Ryan
Spelling be. Go out there and play basketball, say no spelling.
Matt Jones
That's all right. That's one of the great quotes. Like, if you think about, like, my favorite quotes from UK players, this ain't no spelling bee. Cause it's so DeMarcus. First of all, it's a great answer to what was happening during that week, which was people were saying, Cornell is what college basketball should be. Kentucky's not right. And it also into Marcus mind, like, what it means to be smart in college is a spelling bee. That's what I love about it. Well, that's another one. Play that again.
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Hello, Mr. President, this is Demarcus Cousin.
Matt Jones
That's another great one. Hello, Mr. President, this is Demarcus Cousins.
Shannon
I got one for you.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Shannon
Let me ask Antoine Walker, why shoot so many threes? Because there ain't no fours.
Matt Jones
There ain't no force. Although I think he said that in college or in the pros.
Shannon
Oh, he didn't. The pros.
Matt Jones
I don't think he said that at UK. I think he said that in the pros. Hello, Mr. President, this is DeMarcus Cousins.
Shannon
He's got two of the top quotes of all time.
Matt Jones
I love that so much.
Shannon
And then they lost the game that night.
Matt Jones
They did that was it. That was their second loss, or was it their first?
Shannon
It was their first loss.
Matt Jones
It was their first loss. It was after hoops for Haiti. That was when people were really mad. They were like, barack Obama's cost us an undefeated season.
Shannon
Yep.
Matt Jones
But, you know, so yesterday when I was on espn. I got him to do a segment about John Wall, which led me to kind of talking about that team. And we went back and looked like we skip over that. During the regular season, the president called the team. Yeah, right. I mean, Obama called the team during the season.
Shannon
Right.
Matt Jones
Looked at John Wall and said, I've been watching you, son. Like, that's rock star team.
Shannon
Yeah. LeBron came to a game.
Matt Jones
LeBron, Jay Z, Lil Wayne, Drake and Magic Johnson all came to a game at RUP Arena.
Shannon
I think Mike Tomlin was there, the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach one time they all wanted to see this rock star team. Yeah.
Matt Jones
So crazy stuff. But. Hello, Mr. President, this is DeMarcus. On any other team, DeMarcus Cousins is the show.
Shannon
Yes.
Matt Jones
Right. Anyway, Gino, go ahead, Gino.
Caller
Hey, Matt, it's been about a month since you talked about this, but I was wondering if you saw the interviews. It's good national news coverage, but the interviews with the ladies in Letcher county earlier this week about the.
Matt Jones
So this is. Is that the judge? The sheriff. Excuse me.
Caller
Yes.
Matt Jones
Yeah. So the sheriff. And I guess there's more going on in the. Yeah. So there's. There's a couple stories have come out where women have said that the guy who got shot. Tell me if I'm right about this. I don't want to get it wrong. Gino. The guy who got shot allegedly required women in jail to give, like, sexual favors. Am I right about that?
Caller
Yeah, there's a lot more going on in the chambers than talking about issues.
Matt Jones
Yeah, that's not good. I mean, that's. Yeah, I appreciate the call. I mean, this was. I think the story maybe was a. I don't know if it was cbs, but it was also like a British. Like a British news organization. Did. It went to Letcher County. The allegation is the guy who the sheriff shot, also the women that were in jail in Letcher county, he would either. I don't know if he has the power to let him out. But alleged. Well, maybe he did. I don't remember. But there was something. I didn't. There was something about the way they would exchange sexual favors for something. So pretty bad stuff.
Shannon
Yeah. I got several women. I read the story. It stepped up and said that.
Matt Jones
Well, you read it. What did it say?
Shannon
It said that the. The women. He had several women that have come forward to say that they did sexual favors for him to be lenient on their sentence or to let him out of jail. This judge. And often it would happen in his chambers.
Matt Jones
James Dobson, the Founder of Focus on the Family has passed away. When I was a kid, I remember they would play those videos at our church. Really remember James Dobson.
Shannon
Sorry, I don't.
Matt Jones
Yeah, he was like in that whole evangelist era of that time. Well, rest in peace, Andrew. What's up, Andrew?
Caller
First time, long time.
Matt Jones
Who are. What's up?
Caller
I just had a suggestion for Ryan. This year is the last year for Christian County High School and Hopkinsville High School football game before they combine to go to the mega school, which is also an unpopular opinion of Christian County. I'd say about 75% of people ain't really looking forward to the combination of the schools. And then for Shannon, he was talking about hypnosis.
Matt Jones
So you're suggesting he should go? You're suggesting Ryan should go?
Caller
Oh, absolutely. I mean, it's the end of. The end of our era.
Matt Jones
You should do like Friday night football games. You would love that. Like, you just generally.
Shannon
I'm going to Woodford county game next week.
Matt Jones
Maybe we can do the ride Lemon game of the week. Find a sponsor. Yeah, he doesn't seem as excited about that. You're gonna wish you did it. Go ahead. What was your second thing?
Caller
Oh, it was just for Shannon. He was talking about hypnosis earlier. My parents took me to that stuff when I was a kid. That's the biggest shenanigans I ever did in my entire life.
Ryan
I'm with you. I don't believe in it either. Some people swear that it's. It's a real thing. I don't believe it.
Matt Jones
So I believe. I believe that you can get, like. You can go into like a deep. I don't want to say sleep. Like a meditative. A deep, meditative thing where your mind can kind of float and you're sort of like, you know, not in, like. It's hard to describe. I do believe you can get into that deep meditative state. Do I believe you can get to something where people then say, bark like a dog and you do it? If I'm with you? I don't believe that's real either.
Caller
And then I. I'm just disappointed that I ain't gonna be able to sit in Cracker Bar, try and figure out all the items that was on the wall.
Matt Jones
Well, they're gonna leave. They're. I think they're leaving the urine. Ignoramus. Right?
Shannon
The golf tea game, the golf team, the tea game.
Ryan
They're leaving that.
Matt Jones
They're leaving that.
Shannon
Okay.
Caller
Yeah, but all the stuff on the walls, like, you just. Could you imagine being born in the 1920s and your picture ends up in a random cracker barrel.
Matt Jones
That's true. I appreciate the call. You wonder if they gave their likeness. You can't get rid of the urine. Ignorance.
Shannon
No. Yeah, that's a rocking chairs, fireplace. What about the country store? They're going to keep it.
Matt Jones
Like they're keeping the store, but they're going to make it like have other stuff. I also think, as if I read correctly, they are changing the logo everywhere but the design of the stores. The new, like the old ones are going to stay like that. Just the new ones in the cities are going to be the modern thing.
Shannon
They're afraid nobody will come if they have the country.
Matt Jones
They're doing a pop up store in New York to see how it goes. Because if you think about it, there are no cracker barrels in major cities.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
You ever seen one in a big city?
Shannon
No. They're always out on the road.
Matt Jones
They're always out next to the interstate.
Shannon
Yep.
Matt Jones
Like even in Lexington, the one is out next to the interstate.
Shannon
Both of them. One, you know, what's the other one on? Winchester Road. Winchester Road out there by the interstate.
Matt Jones
Ones in Newtown Pike. Right?
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Yeah. So I think they're like trying to figure out, how do you put it in Times Square? Because, you know, like the most successful Olive Garden in America is in Times Square.
Ryan
Really don't make sense.
Matt Jones
I don't know who those people are though. Who goes to New York and eats at the Olive Garden? True. Actually I say that Drew and I have eaten at the Garden in Times Square as like a joke. But we died. We did eat there.
Shannon
Maybe that's why everybody goes kind of as a joke.
Ryan
The cheapest thing you can eat in New York City.
Matt Jones
It actually is pretty relatively cheap if you eat at one of those places. So they have a TGI Fridays in the middle of Times Square.
Shannon
Really?
Matt Jones
Yeah. Yeah. 859-280-2287. Draft Kings. My Braves lost last night 2 to 1, but so did the math. You're breaking 2 to 1, but so did the Mets. So that's, that's good. We're still on the game back.
Shannon
Hanging in there.
Matt Jones
34 games to go, but DraftKings, you can go make your bets. Let's see what's happening tonight. Since we don't have the Reds to bet on. Let's look. What do we got?
Ryan
NFL games, I believe.
Matt Jones
All right, so let's do an NFL preseason game. You gotta be a real degenerate to. To do this NFL preseason game. Steelers, Panthers Steelers are a four and a half point favorite. I'm taking the Panthers to win plus 200. Wow.
Ryan
Give me the Steelers on this one. I don't know why. I don't even know who their third string guys are gonna be.
Matt Jones
All third stringers.
Shannon
I am so anti Aaron Rodgers. I'm going with the Panthers. Nobody. He's on the team.
Matt Jones
All right. Well, either way we got the pants. Plus 200. Get some. Get some. Big money.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Go to DraftKings. DraftKings sportsbook. The Crown is yours. And let me read this little thing you have to read. Yes. If you have a game problem, come on here. Gameboy 18 + Kentucky only eligible supply bonus makes buyer 100 bar seven days after interest. Additional time response from gaming resources see DK Audio. We'll take a break. Right back ksr. Well, I haven't thought about this song in a long time. Fear is not here. Yeah. Is this live? Live.
Ryan
I alone I alone.
Matt Jones
Yeah. That dude that. They were really popular for like a year.
Ryan
They played Bourbon and Beyond Fest a couple of years ago. They were really good.
Matt Jones
Yeah. I can think of my friend Chris Thompson, rest in peace and I driving to UK or Middlesborough basketball games through the hills of eastern Kentucky. He loved live, so he's gotten his gray car. We just had to listen to live the whole time. So every time I hear live, I think of us driving like Everts for a basketball game.
Shannon
Did you get to play in that game?
Matt Jones
No, this was after I was already asked to be a manager. But I still was. I still wanted to go watch them. We go on a Friday nights. It's because I liked going to these towns. Like I liked going to new gyms.
Shannon
And you know, you were an all American clapper your final year.
Matt Jones
Say that again. Like you do the same jokes. Maybe during this free time you can come up. You can come up, Shannon, with new jokes.
Shannon
Okay.
Matt Jones
Right.
Ryan
Yeah. We need some new dad jokes for you.
Matt Jones
New dad jokes? These jokes, they're the same ones. One person writes. Matt. I thought you all had the best day of ask anything Wednesday callers in a long time yesterday. So did I. I thought they were great. Like the callers stepped up in the last couple days of really funny, interesting calls. I enjoyed that.
Ryan
I was great. Yeah.
Matt Jones
Who?
Ryan
Wendell Windows was a little.
Matt Jones
That one was a little different. All right, so tell me where we are tomorrow. We're in Louisville.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Volunteers of America.
Ryan
Yes, I have the address right here. It is at 225 E. Breckenridge St.
Matt Jones
225 E. Breckenridge State St, the new Volunteers of America facility. We're going to be there. Come on out. Show Kentucky fans there. My friend Craig's the May. The mayor is going to be there. We're going to be.
Shannon
Greg's going to be there.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Mayor Craig's going to be.
Ryan
Happy birthday tomorrow.
Matt Jones
Now, Shannon, can we just like, we, like, we love the volunteers in America. We're going to have fun tomorrow. But.
Shannon
You gonna say.
Ryan
I know what he's going to say. Hardy.
Matt Jones
No, they, they gave Billy yesterday a sheet of paper with all the times on the show and what they wanted me to say for each time.
Ryan
It's a very detailed itinerary.
Matt Jones
Very detailed Itera.
Ryan
Yeah.
Shannon
Probably what real radio shows go have.
Matt Jones
Every day, but we ain't doing that.
Ryan
Tell me you've never had ksr.
Matt Jones
Tell me you don't know ksr. When you say Matt will say this then, wow. So I said to him, hey, just give me some talking points, we'll be good. But like at 10:17, that's just, that's not what it was.
Shannon
A full production sheet for the two hours.
Matt Jones
You seen it, Shannon? Yeah, it's like three pages long. So Billy showed it to me and I just hand it back to him and said, tell them thank you, but we'll, we'll just do that. So normal.
Shannon
Yes.
Matt Jones
Right. Because that's kind of.
Shannon
They have slots where you're supposed to interview guests too, maybe.
Ryan
I believe that was 11 o' clock to start.
Matt Jones
11 o'? Clock. Yeah, it was 30 minutes with Craig.
Shannon
30 minutes with Craig.
Matt Jones
I said, I'll give Craig three to five, which is plenty. And we'll probably talk about wrestling.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
So, Shane, go ahead. Shane.
Caller
Hey, I was just wondering if you guys would think that this is like the coolest idea ever or the stupidest idea ever. But I was thinking after John Wall retired yesterday, and then y' all were talking about Patrick Patterson earlier today, it just hit me, you know, but college basketball is changing as, you know, like every year it changes and you know, from Ennis Cantor to not. Not being able to play back in 2011 and now yellow Bitch is. Was a professional and now he's going to be able to play Big Z. Same thing. And I was wondering about this, like, what if, what if professional players like the one and dones that came out, like John Wall, he, you know, what if they were made a rule and the NCAA are so stupid they would never even consider it? But I think it would be an interesting thing to talk about. What if after they retire Five years after they retire, they could come back and play college basketball. John Wall would be 39 years old, but some of the younger guys would have, you know, maybe they didn't make, like the Harrison twins or.
Matt Jones
Or Willie Collins example. Yes, I think they should. I think they. I think Jay Billis has been talking.
Caller
It would sell so many tickets. I mean, it would be incredible to go back and watch.
Matt Jones
These guys are real team J. Bill has talked about that, has been talking about this for years. Why not allow guys to come back, get their college degree and play.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Like, who does it hurt to have Khalil Whitney play be. Play basketball? Who does it hurt he get, assuming he's in college. Right. Like, what's. What's bad about that now? I mean, would you want to have an age? An age, Barrett? Maybe. But if somebody makes a decision and goes to pro, it doesn't work. Why can't they come back? You know, the yellow bitch examples. Perfect. He was a pro. He's getting to come here. Why should we punish an American player who's a pro when we let a foreign player do.
Caller
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Why? What's. What's the reasoning?
Shannon
Is it something you think it's coming, then we see.
Matt Jones
What? I don't know. I think the caller's right. The NCAA will be hesitant to do it, but, I mean, I don't think you should let them play more than four years. But if they did not play four years and they have a chance and they have eligibility, then why not.
Shannon
Yeah. How awesome.
Matt Jones
What's the downside?
Shannon
Takes a roster spot from a. Another player maybe.
Matt Jones
Okay, but the kid could graduate from college. The product is better, and it'll actually make the basketball at the lower levels better because the kid that might have gone to Mississippi State will now go to Southern Miss or something like that. Right. I just. In a transfer. The. The idea that a kid should be able to come from. From Croatia after playing pro basketball and play college, but a guy that went to the pros and didn't get signed has to go to Croatia.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Like, think about that. I mean, that's the system we have. If a kid leaves to go to the NBA and he doesn't make it, he has to go overseas.
Shannon
Right.
Matt Jones
While the kids from overseas who've already played pro are allowed to come here and play college.
Shannon
How does that make sense?
Matt Jones
It doesn't make any sense.
Shannon
Can you imagine if the twins came back for a second time?
Matt Jones
I mean, they're probably a little old. For what I'm taught, for what I'm talking about. But. But the principle is still the same.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Like, this is essentially a pro sport now. You've got the benefit of education. The TBT shows that these guys get more love doing this than what they do in their other stuff. Absolutely. So why not?
Shannon
Why not?
Matt Jones
I just don't. I mean, we. I just think rethinking that. I. I think the caller makes a good point. Why. Why wouldn't we rethink it now? Cause it's a different world. I like the. I like that idea. We'll take a break. Breakbacks. Ksr. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney.
Shannon
Call tj.
Matt Jones
He'll make him pay.
Ryan
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.
Matt Jones
What is this?
Ryan
Akon.
Matt Jones
Akon.
Ryan
Yeah.
Matt Jones
All right. So. So he. So Mario made fun of me last night.
Shannon
Yes, he did.
Matt Jones
So, you know, one of the questions I do in the trivia is I'm like, what is the age I give a person? And you have to guess the age, Shannon.
Ryan
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And you have to get two years one direction or the other.
Ryan
Okay.
Matt Jones
Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah, of course. So I'll just do one here for you right now. Jason Kelsey. How old do you think Jason Kelsey is?
Ryan
Ryan, you want to guess?
Matt Jones
You have to guess 34, 37. So you get credit for 35 to 39. So you wouldn't have gotten that one.
Shannon
One of your choices was Shannon the dude Grigsby.
Matt Jones
You were on there last night. Yeah, that's why I asked you. That's why I confirmed you were 42. You were on there last night. That's when you got right. I'm sure. Jimmy Fallon. How old do you think Jimmy Fallon is?
Ryan
Jimmy Fallon. 50.
Matt Jones
He is exactly 50. Well done, Shannon. Fist bump through the. Through the screen. Linda Gordon, the mayor of Lexington.
Shannon
That's the one that surprised me.
Matt Jones
I was shocked by this. You. She's probably gonna be embarrassed. I'm saying this on the radio. I was shocked.
Shannon
Me too.
Matt Jones
By how old Linda Gordon is.
Ryan
I'm afraid to guess. I gotta go younger than what I would think.
Matt Jones
What are we gonna say, 58? I thought she was probably like early 60s. So we guessed she's 76 years old. She looks great for 76. She's 76.
Ryan
No, I would have never guessed that.
Matt Jones
I would have never.
Shannon
Good for her.
Matt Jones
I really wouldn't have. I would have thought she was in her 64. 76. When I did, I could. I don't think one person got it.
Shannon
Right because she doesn't look. It doesn't act it. Good for her.
Matt Jones
Good. Good for her. Then I also. So. So my point is one of them on there was somebody that like some people call ASAP Rocky. That's what some people call.
Shannon
What'd you call him?
Matt Jones
Well, there's other like his good friends call him A.S.A.P. rock.
Shannon
Oh, okay. So you're in that category.
Matt Jones
So. So when I read his name, Shannon, I hear this cackling from the back.
Ryan
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And it's Mario, who has led the entire back half of the restaurant to laugh at me saying as Asap Rocky. Which is what his friends call it.
Ryan
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Instead of A.S.A.P Rocky. Did you feel like an old man? Well, I'll tell you the other reason I felt like an old man. This is. Okay. You want to talk about when things hit you?
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
This was one of them. Last night. Last night this dude comes up to me. He's one of the new servers at KS Bar, student at uk. He goes, hey, I'm John Boss son. I was like, Johnny Baugh. My old. Like, I worked with him as a lawyer when I was practicing law. I was like, oh, how's your dad? Johnny Bar. I can't believe it. I'm like, you know. And then I said, Johnny Ball and I worked together in like 2008. And he goes, I was two.
Shannon
You probably remember him as a two year old.
Matt Jones
He was two and now he's working at my bar. Wow. Shannon.
Ryan
He was 2 and now he's almost 20.
Matt Jones
So I showed. So that led me to pill. That led me to put up. Find a picture of the claw.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
So let me just say to people, some of y' all have seen this just right now. Google Matt Jones, Kentucky Law works or no. Excuse me. Don't do that. They won't come up. Go to Twitter, Twitter and put like KY Sports Radio Claw or something like that. I think that's how it comes up. K L A W. You'll find our old billboard. Okay. Is that what works? I'll read this ad while you're looking it up. You tell me if this works. Summer is calling and so for a better auto rate from UK Federal Credit Union, we're shopping for a new ride or ready to refinance. You can lock in a rate as low as 3.99% APR. Membership is easy and the loan application is a breeze. Save big odd interest over the life of your auto loans. With a rate as low as 3.99% APR, it's UK Federal Credit Union 3.99 APR loan subject to credit approval and loan requirements. Visit ukfcu.org for terms and conditions. Membership eligibility required. Fairly insured by ncua. Do you see it? Did that bring it up?
Ryan
I see a tweet from you that's got a picture of you looking like Paul Rudd.
Matt Jones
Okay, that was me being really fat in that picture. But that's not the one I'm talking about. There's a billboard. Corey Price or somebody will find it. But here's the billboard, Shannon. This was what our Billboard was in 2000.
Ryan
No, no, I've seen that before.
Matt Jones
Look, first of all, look how fat I look.
Shannon
Your true big face.
Matt Jones
But then that's Johnny Bar right there. That's his. And his son is now working. He's now working at KS Bar. Look at. I liked you. Excuse me. Ryan said the one guy. That's Brian Cook. He got his head like. He didn't even get his head in the picture.
Shannon
He needs to renegotiate his contract.
Matt Jones
Negotiate his contract.
Ryan
You got a great looking like me mug look on your face.
Matt Jones
You don't. If you get hurt, call the Claw.
Ryan
Yeah, that's right.
Shannon
Get your.
Matt Jones
Your white shirt. We all have white shirts.
Shannon
Yeah, you got your shirt sleeves rolled up a little bit. Looks like. Cross your arms.
Matt Jones
Look how ridiculous I look. Why did I think that?
Shannon
Did you get any business?
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Shannon
Well, it worked.
Matt Jones
Then there is still. I won't say where, but there's this billboard is still hanging. No place in eastern Kentucky.
Shannon
No, it's not.
Matt Jones
Occasionally somebody will drive by and take a picture of it. It is hanging off this like dessert. Because we could only afford billboards. Like we couldn't afford prime placement.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
So we like went to the billboard company and they're like, we can sell you 20 billboards in Eastern Kentucky, but only one is on a major road.
Shannon
And you took it.
Matt Jones
So we got the one on a major road and it actually got us a lot of business. And then we just took the other 19 and. And one of them is still up because I guess they've never sold.
Shannon
How have we never done a show at the base of this billboard?
Matt Jones
It's still up in. Well, I'll see if somebody can find it. But it's on like this country road. Wow. And you just turn around and there I am hurt. Call the Claw with me, Johnny Bruce. Anyway, that was. I was telling him. I was like, I almost got shot. Yeah, that commercial. Yeah. The one where I'm in front of the courthouse there. That was when that guy like pulled a shotgun.
Shannon
I remember you've told that story before.
Matt Jones
I mean, that was in a lagrange, of all places.
Shannon
And they have just had me shooting a commercial that day. One of your commercials. That day.
Matt Jones
They were shooting a commercial of me and Vanessa Cantley and her assistant was there, and he was like, cat calling her and making, like, really rude comments. And finally I was like, dude, shut up. Like, except I cussed. And he goes, oh, we'll see if you'll talk bad about me. And he drives off, and five minutes later, he drives up with a shotgun.
Shannon
Golly, man.
Matt Jones
And I was like, hey, man, we're good.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Everybody calm down. So be. And of all places, Lagrange. Like, that's not even. They shoot Hallmark movies there.
Shannon
I've heard you tell that story before. That's scary, man.
Matt Jones
Eric and Eric. Go ahead, Eric.
Caller
Afternoon, guys.
Matt Jones
Good afternoon.
Caller
Hey, Ry, do you remember when they used to do the Cats versus Cops down there in Tail City?
Shannon
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Caller
Yeah, I used to go there when I was a little kid.
Matt Jones
I wonder.
Caller
I think they stopped that the year John Wall is here. I think they stopped it the year before.
Matt Jones
I don't know what you're talking about. What's he talking about, everybody?
Shannon
It was like a benefit charity game.
Matt Jones
Who versus who?
Shannon
Like, old, old UK players against, like, police officers.
Matt Jones
Oh, okay, Gotcha. All right. Anything else?
Caller
Yeah, Chuck. Hey, yeah, Chuck Hayes was there. I forget his name. Peterson. I think that's his name. Patrick Patterson. Met him. Couple guys.
Matt Jones
All right, well, I appreciate the call. I didn't know they did that. Old UK players versus police officers. You know, these two little police officers couldn't have won. No.
Shannon
But, yeah, I think a lot of fans miss those old barnstorming tours and games. Remember, you did it for a couple years.
Matt Jones
I did it. My goodness.
Shannon
But I think fans love that.
Matt Jones
You want to talk about an absolute cluster? That's another thing, man. Like, I just jump feet into things. I don't really know what I'm doing. And when Romeo and Joe were seniors, Mel was like, nobody's doing a barnstorming tour. And I was like, I got it.
Shannon
We can do it.
Matt Jones
We can do it. And I scheduled, like, 10 dates around the state. Me, Ramel, Joe Woo, and Bobby Perry would get in my car. Joe would take his nasty shoes off and his feet everywhere. I drove the four of them around the state with. With Johnny, Bruce and Hubby. And then we'd have to pick up somebody for every game. So we had Brandon Stockton for a couple. We had a game in McCreery county, which was supposed to be Matt. Heisenbuttle but he canceled. So the turkey hunter just played and called himself Matt Heisenbundle. And Shannon. Nobody knew. The difference is no one knew. Like, he signed Matt Heisenbuttle's name, gave autographs. He gave autographs as Matt Heisenbuttle. We would get there, and me and Ramel and Joe. And the thing is, it was all cash. We didn't have a way to do credit cards. So at the end of the night, we just have this huge stack of cash. Be like, which, I mean, for the time, I'd never seen these stacks, like 5,000, 8,000, $10,000. And we just divided up and then literally just think about all these, like, $20 bills. And we just sit in the locker room and count them up and hand them up. And then Ramel and Joe, who got the biggest, as they would call them stacks.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Because they were the main draws. They would then chase each other around like children and hit each other in the head with their stacks of money. Like, that was when I realized, you know, this, Ryan. How young, like, how much. Like, they're still kids. They're still kids. I mean, Ramel would literally just hit Joe in the back of the head with the money and be like, my stack's bigger than yours. And it was the same amount of money. That was a lot of fun. I had more fun doing that than. Than. I love those guys, Ramel. That's part of why I love him. Woo. Like, we had such a good time.
Shannon
Didn't one of the guys leave their stack at Gold Star Chili or something?
Matt Jones
We went to Skyline in Cincinnati and they were eating with their stack of $4,000 on the table. I was like, you're gonna get us killed.
Shannon
Exactly.
Matt Jones
You can't just have $4,000 like, just laying on a table.
Shannon
Hopefully owe you money too, huh? Doesn't some school still owe you money?
Matt Jones
Knock Central never paid me.
Shannon
There we go.
Matt Jones
Still mad at them. Probably not the same leadership now, but they're frustrating. Cornbread hemp is what? Cool. You're gonna have to start using it.
Shannon
I took a cornbread hemp last night. Try to get some sleep, because I could not go to sleep.
Matt Jones
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Shannon
How did they go to print with that one guy completely being blocked out? You can't see anything on his face.
Matt Jones
So much hair back then, like it was. Why didn't somebody not tell me about those bangs, Shannon?
Ryan
Well, I mean, I think they tried to tell you.
Matt Jones
My mom did.
Ryan
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan
Just didn't listen.
Matt Jones
I wish I had that. That was not a tough look at all. Okay, couple things here. First of all, Jaden Quiten's passed his driver's test.
Shannon
Good for him.
Ryan
All right.
Shannon
Got his driver's license.
Matt Jones
That's good, right?
Shannon
Good.
Matt Jones
Sister Jean is 106 years old today.
Ryan
Unbelievable. Way to go, sister.
Matt Jones
106.
Shannon
I wonder if she'll tweet today.
Matt Jones
She should. You gotta. She needs to tweet on her birthday, don't you?
Ryan
She's probably sleeping in today. It's her big day.
Matt Jones
106 years old.
Shannon
I didn't know she was still alive. Good for her.
Matt Jones
106.
Shannon
That's amazing.
Matt Jones
That is. That is quite an accomplished. May we all be so lucky.
Shannon
Amen.
Ryan
She's tight with the Lord.
Matt Jones
She clearly. Yeah, she's probably lived alone for a long time.
Ryan
No.
Shannon
Buy some.
Matt Jones
Her.
Ryan
She's probably got somebody with her.
Matt Jones
Yeah, but I mean, she probably. I mean, she was a nun, so she probably spent a lot of her life alone.
Ryan
Maybe, but at 106, I'm sure.
Matt Jones
Well, now she may not. Yeah, now she may not. Mark Anthony. Go ahead. Mark Anthony.
Caller
Hey, Matthew Ryan. Shannon. Hey. Yeah. No nuns live together at the nunnery, Matthew. That's all I know. And I was raised Catholic, so. Anyway, speaking about Cracker Barrel, they can put up, change the signs all they want to, but until they fix their food, they're not helping themselves.
Matt Jones
See, everybody keeps writing me and saying that the food quality has gone down at the Cracker Barrel. Is that true? I haven't been in years.
Caller
Terribly, terribly mad. Me and Ms. Boo stopped by there all just a few weeks ago to grab some supper. And I got the meatloaf and chicken dumplings, which used to be solid. And yeah, the meatloaf sucked. Absolutely.
Matt Jones
So you. You. Wait a minute, Shannon. He shouldn't get the meatloaf.
Ryan
No, no, no. The only reason you go to Cracker Barrels for the breakfast. I'm not going there for dinner, Uncle Hershey.
Matt Jones
You got a point.
Caller
But hey, Shannon put me in the breakfast group that I have on Friday. Tried it a few times and I tried the biscuit and gravy. They bring you a bowl of gravy that you poured out. It looks like a bowl of mashed potatoes. Goes like that.
Matt Jones
Maybe this is their chance. Maybe this is their way of saying, all right, we're re signaling, we're re getting the food going with. I've always thought the thing they did the best when they were rolling. I appreciate the call when they were rolling. Hash brown casserole.
Shannon
That's the best thing on the menu.
Ryan
Amazing.
Matt Jones
Still, that was always really good. I always thought the biscuits and gravy were good. They were good when they, when they were there, like the country ham.
Ryan
That's what I got.
Matt Jones
That was always pretty good. So I always thought they did those three things really, really good. And then I. They would do. I would like it because on non Thanksgiving you could get dressing.
Shannon
Yes. Billy Gillespie used to go to one on Newtown pike just for turkey.
Matt Jones
And I was wondering if you're going to say that Billy Gillespie ate at the one on Newtown pike like three times a week. And I'm and was told he ordered Thanksgiving every time he went.
Shannon
Yeah, the turkey and dressing was like always on a Thursday.
Matt Jones
Turkey and dressing and cranberry sauce.
Shannon
Yeah. I mean he was sitting by himself.
Matt Jones
Weird to want to eat Thanksgiving every week.
Shannon
Every week.
Matt Jones
I mean, I love dressing. Dressing's good. I don't know why we got to the idea that we can only have dressing once or twice a year.
Ryan
Makes you want it more though.
Matt Jones
But it's so good. I think Billy was on to something on it.
Shannon
I was there and he'd be in the corner by himself.
Matt Jones
By himself.
Shannon
Yeah. And eat turkey and dressing. People.
Matt Jones
I wonder what Mark Pope's places remember John Caliper is heat by himself. Place was golden crowd.
Shannon
Yeah, that's right.
Matt Jones
He would eat at like 4 o' clock by himself at the Golden Corral in New Circle. Can you imagine walking in there and seeing John Caliper at the Golden Corral. Golden Corral with a big bowl of whipped cream. Yeah. He would eat. He would know. He would dip his food in whipped cream.
Shannon
That's right. I think Mark Pope's a lot like me. Can't stand to be by himself. I think he's a Guy that wouldn't go.
Matt Jones
Oh, okay, so you don't think he would go.
Shannon
I think with his wife or his daughters or assistant coaches. He's somebody, I think that's got a be social. Have somebody with him.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Peggy. Peggy.
Caller
Hey, good morning, guys. Just wanted to let you know that the crafts bought the country ham at the state fair and paid $10 million for it.
Matt Jones
Stop it. They did not pay.
Ryan
They paid ten and a half last year. They got it for a discount this year.
Matt Jones
$10 million, huh? And Ryan, I'll never understand the country.
Caller
Him thing, but go ahead, Ryan, check your messages. I left you a message because I'm in the opposite position. Position for you.
Matt Jones
She wants everybody to go away.
Caller
I had to take in a border where you lost one.
Matt Jones
Well, he'll read it. I appreciate it, Peggy. Thank you very much. Let's go to Noah. Go ahead, Noah.
Caller
Hey. Hey, Matt, got a two part kind of question for you. So a little bit similar to one of the other callers you guys remember like the UK alumni charity games that Caliperi would usually bring in like his recent former like NBA players and have matches they play together. It's like a UK charity event.
Shannon
Yes.
Matt Jones
Say that again.
Shannon
Like when Cal would bring in some of his former players that played a couple charity games.
Matt Jones
Yeah, they did a couple of those. Yes.
Caller
Yes. So with the kind of stuff from that, obviously right now Mark Pope has only from had one year. So obviously there's not a lot of fish in the pool together for it. But 1. Do you think this is something that Pope could be able to try to be like create for the future or is this something that like.
Matt Jones
Yeah, it's hard. It ended up being hard. Like they did it that first year for some sort of raising money for some issue. I can't remember what it was, was it a flood or something? And then the problem, not the reason that did is it was they found the players couldn't get insured anymore. Appreciate the call. So the guy, the NBA guys, no one would insure them and so their agents would not allow them to do it.
Shannon
Right.
Matt Jones
And so that's why they ended up stopping doing it. So, you know, I, I, I'd love for them to do it, but I think it's probably like you're just worried about getting hurt and so that ends up not happening. All right, tomorrow we are at Daughters.
Caller
Of the American Revolution.
Matt Jones
It's not Daughters of the American Revolution.
Shannon
It's Volunteers.
Matt Jones
Volunteers of America in Louisville on Breckenridge Street. Come see us. They've got to have all kinds of things. See their new facility. We'll be there in Louisville. Great chance for people in Louisville to come see us. Those of you coming to the listener dinner tonight, we look forward to seeing you. And then for everybody else, hope you have a great day. It's been a wonderful afternoon. Hang in there. Night two will be easier than night one.
Shannon
I hope so. I'm gonna cry myself to sleep every night wondering what he's doing.
Matt Jones
And with that, why didn't he come home? It's KSR.
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Date: August 21, 2025
Host(s): Matt Jones, Shannon The Dude, Ryan Lemond
Podcast: KSR from iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790
This episode of KSR dives into the latest changes at Cracker Barrel and the cultural reaction, Kentucky basketball updates (with focus on new coach Mark Pope’s approach and team dynamics), memorable Kentucky sports quotes and stories, evolving NCAA regulations and their impact, and plenty of local flavor—from community events and memories at KS Bar to calls about hypnotism and nostalgia for UK alumni charity games. It’s classic KSR: topical, irreverent, and brimming with stories from Kentucky sports and culture.
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Matt Jones (on Cracker Barrel rebranding):
“They took the barrel and the cracker off the logo. So, like, what are you going to…what are you going to do?” (02:50)
Ryan Lemond (on Mark Pope’s player meetings):
“Do the players have that much to say?” (05:42)
Matt Jones (on DeMarcus Cousins):
“This ain’t no spelling bee.” (07:10)
Shannon (on hypnosis):
“I don’t believe in it either. Some people swear that it’s…a real thing. I don’t believe it.” (12:31)
Matt Jones (on NCAA rules for returning pros):
“If a kid leaves to go to the NBA and he doesn’t make it, he has to go overseas; while the kids from overseas who’ve already played pro are allowed to come here and play college—how does that make sense?” (22:56)
The conversation is lively, conversational, and often irreverent, with signature KSR banter, nostalgia, and a healthy dose of skepticism on everything from coaching methods to hypnotism. The hosts shift seamlessly from breaking sports news to personal stories, keeping the vibe firmly local and relatable.
For listeners who missed this episode, expect a quintessential KSR mix: Kentucky hoops analysis, behind-the-scenes restaurant and legal stories, small-town scandals, mascot memories, and just enough NCAA controversy to keep sports fans arguing until tomorrow.