2025-08-26- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

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Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – 2025-08-26, Hour 1

Host: Matt Jones
Co-hosts: Ryan Lemond, Drew Franklin, Shannon the Dude
Date: August 26, 2025
Location: KS Bar & Grill, Lexington
Purpose: First day back live at KS Bar & Grill. The crew covers UK football updates, KS Bar reopening, NIL in college sports, and a state benefits mishap.

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Episode Overview

The KSR crew returns to KS Bar & Grill with a new look and upgraded menu. This episode covers the excitement of reopening the bar, new Kentucky football depth charts and roster analysis, heated debate about a state EBT program error, college sports transfer/NIL drama, and a humorous mix of personal anecdotes. The lively, conversational tone features plenty of friendly ribbing and real talk about the UK sports scene.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. KS Bar & Grill Reopening & Upgrades (00:35 – 06:52)

• Back at the Bar:
  Matt welcomes listeners back for the first live show since their summer break, held at the newly renovated KS Bar & Grill.
• Upgrades Highlighted:
  • New floors, shiny tabletops, blue paint, updated pictures/jerseys, switched-up televisions.
  • Major menu refresh: Addition of smash burgers (from Noche Linda), new appetizers (notably potato "tater kegs"), and the return of crowd favorites like wings and cheese logs.
• KSR Community:
  • Loyal listeners show up early. Team celebrates the return with friendly banter (“feels like we haven’t left.”) (01:01)
  • “It’s nice to be back.” — Matt Jones (01:18)

Notable Quotes

• “KS Bar & Grill is back open. And we will be open all day today starting at 11 o'clock for lunch.” — Matt Jones (00:40)
• “If you look around…we changed the tabletops…redid the floors...most importantly, I think we very much improved our menu.” — Matt Jones (04:47)

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2. Ryan Lemond’s Commercial & Local Fame (02:13 – 04:28)

• Ryan Lemond’s Commercial Gig:
  • Shooting a national TV testimonial for Alarm.com/Silent Guard after their system saved his house from a fire.
  • Turned down a trip to DC to stay for KS Bar opening & game week, opts to film locally.
  • Doing it unpaid—feels “indebted” to the company.
• Matt & Crew Tease Ryan:
  • Good-natured ribbing about Ryan's famous "one polo shirt" for fancy days and speculation about late-night infomercial potential.
• Generosity or Undervaluing?
  • “You could get paid for these things.” — Matt Jones (04:03)
  • “They saved my house and they saved my dogs. I kind of feel like I owe them a little bit.” — Ryan Lemond (04:14)

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3. UK Football Depth Chart & Roster Deep-Dive (10:11 – 15:51 and 16:18 – 18:14)

Offense Preview

• Names & Backgrounds:
  Matt reads through the projected starting offense, focusing on newcomers and their transfer history:

  • Shiash Pete (LT), Joshua Braun (LG; Arkansas/Florida/Shawnee), Jagger Burton (Center), Jalen Farmer (RG—one of the few known returnees), Alex Walchschlager (RT; from Bowling Green State).
  • Wide Receivers: Kendrick Law (Alabama), JJ Hester (Oklahoma/Missouri), Jamari Macklin.
  • Tight Ends: Josh Cattus, Willie Rodriguez.
  • QB: Zach Calzada (Incarnate Word/Auburn/Texas A&M).
  • RB: Dante Dow (Nebraska) or Seth McGowan (New Mexico State).

• Kicker from Montana:
  Jacob Kawhi—first Montana UK kicker, “can kick it 60 yards over a mountain.” (14:06)

• Special Teams Tweaks:
  Ty Bryant to return punts, replacing Jamari Macklin.

• Team Chemistry & New Era:

  • Noted high turnover—almost an all-new offense.
    • “Probably of the guys that are going to start on this week compared to…last year, you're looking at like one guy…It's a new group.” — Matt Jones (15:21)

Defense Preview

• Key Starters:

  • McQuees Humphrey (DE; South Dakota/Princeton), David Gusta (Washington State), Khalil Saunders (returning).
  • Outside LB: Sam Green (USC), D Vern Rayner (Northern Illinois/TikTok guy).
  • Secondary: Mostly returning players (Safari, Scott, Waller, Hardaway, Bryant, Lovett).
  • “Secondary and defensive line shouldn't be too concerned”—Drew Franklin (17:56)

• Big Picture Analysis:

  • Defensive line and secondary look stable; linebackers are mostly new. Health, cohesion are major variables.

Notable Quotes

• “I think [Jagger Burton] is going to be an NFL center at some point in his career. So I think this just the start of a big season for Jagger.” — Ryan Lemond (11:27)
• “That's why we, you know, somebody got on us yesterday about we don't know the names or how they're going to do because…It's a whole new offense, a whole new look, whole new position these guys are playing.” — Ryan Lemond (15:51)

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4. Will the Team Be Better? Football Prognosis (18:45 – 20:13)

• Is this UK football team better than last year?
  • Group consensus: Yes. Significant improvement via transfers and position upgrades.
  • Reference to last year’s QB Wilcox leaving football for hunting, implying disastrous past performance.

Memorable Moment

• “To me, the most legendary UK football quarterback story is that we had a quarterback skip the final game to take the LSAT. … We'll never top that.” — Matt Jones (19:19)

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5. College Basketball & NIL Transfer Drama (20:13 – 23:00)

• Todd Golden (Florida coach) comments on Denzel Aberdeen’s UK transfer:
  • Golden claims Aberdeen left for “financial reasons” and implies Kentucky simply paid more.
  • Matt and crew mock the hypocrisy—Golden left San Francisco for Florida for money: “Why does he think it's somehow a reason to be angry that Denzel Aberdeen might have done the same thing?” (21:38)
• Prediction of More NIL-Sour Grapes
  “We're going to be hearing this a lot in recruiting…making an excuse for why a player…went to another school.” — Drew Franklin (22:07)
  Matt: “It annoys me to no end because they never hold themselves to the same standard.”

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6. EBT Mistake & Paying Money Back to the State (26:38 – 34:00)

• The Issue:
  State (actually local school districts) mistakenly gave extra EBT (food benefit) money to ~1,400 families, now demanding repayment—even for those who already spent it.
• Hosts' Stance:
  • All (Ryan, Drew, Shannon) agree recipients shouldn’t have to repay; state should “eat it.”
  • Banter about personal payroll mistakes at KSR and how each would have handled (or has handled) surprise money windfalls/losses.
• Moral/Ethical Nuance:
  • Matt: “For me, it’s weird. It’s almost like the knowledge makes a difference…When it’s the state, you have to assume the state’s not gonna screw up.” (30:48)
• Listener Call (Chris) (35:52 – 37:28):
  • Shares story of being accidentally refunded $2,300 instead of $80 for returned tile.
  • Ultimately chose to "give it back" via another purchase, but the situation was confusing.
  • Matt: “I’m generally of the view that the person that makes the mistake has to eat it unless…the entity that knows [but still takes the money], but how do you prove that?”

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7. Fun Extras: Haircuts, Athlete Bonding, Horse Cave Revival (23:54, 38:12–42:12)

• Famous Athlete Haircuts:
  Carlos Alcaraz shaves his head for “ease of movement.” Crew discusses whether it’s disrespectful for those with great hair to cut it, including UK’s Mark Pope and Buzz Williams.
• Basketball Team Bonding:
  • Mark Pope takes the team ziplining, boating, pickleball, jet skiing, visiting Kentucky natural spots.
  • Matt approves “all things bonding,” not sure about pickleball.
• Horse Cave, KY Revitalization:
  • NYT feature on the town’s transformation after cleaning up cave pollution.
  • “All that stink is gone…Horse Cave is on the way up now.” — Drew Franklin (42:09)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “If you get money from the state, you have to assume the state knows what it's doing. Right. Wouldn't you think?” — Matt Jones (30:01)
• “I don't want to be lied to…For Shannon, it's much…the thing for Shannon is and has always been money.” — Matt Jones (34:13)
• “There is value in what they're a part of…show them the fan base they're representing.” — Matt Jones (40:08)
• “I had this happen earlier this year where I got some money put in my account, and…it was obvious it wasn’t supposed to be mine.” — Drew Franklin (37:53)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:35 – Show opens live from KS Bar, excitement for grand re-opening.
• 04:47 – In-depth run-down of bar renovations and menu improvements.
• 10:11 – Football depth chart detailed, player bios and transfer stories.
• 16:44 – Defensive starters previewed, transfer dynamics on defense.
• 18:45 – Will the team be better? Hosts give opinions and reminisce on past UK football oddities.
• 20:13 – Discussion of Todd Golden’s comments about NIL and transferring.
• 26:38 – EBT overpayment–should recipients pay back state error?
• 35:52 – Call-in segment on money mistakes (Chris’ home improvement refund story).
• 38:12 – UK basketball team bonding outings, local Kentucky pride.
• 41:20 – Horse Cave, KY, transformation story.

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Conclusion

This episode weaves UK football analysis with the excitement of KS Bar’s reopening, real-life ethical questions about government error, the realities of NIL in college sports, and the lighter side of KSR’s community. Witty banter and frank opinions—plus classic Kentucky hospitality—make for an entertaining, engaging hour for both UK faithful and casual listeners alike.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Then from Gutfeld and the Joe Rogan.

[A]

Experience, catch Jeff Dye August 28th through the 30th. And don't miss social media sensation John Crist September 4th through the 6th.

[B]

For tickets to all Comedy Off Broadway.

[A]

Shows, call 859-271-joke or visit comedyoffbroadway.com Comedy Off Broadway.

[C]

This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[A]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky sports Radio here live, Tuesday, August 26th. I am Matt Jones here at the KS Bar and Grill, where after all of these months, we are back ready to rock. You can give us Sean Clark's pump and Shop phone line, 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254. In this session, sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office, you make them pay. KS Bar & Grill is back open. And we will be open all day today starting at 11 o' clock for lunch. We have some folks who came a little early to watch the show, including some familiar faces who were regulars to come watch us on a daily basis, which is nice. And Ryan Lemon here we are back in place. We've now been doing this show really since COVID and it's nice to be back.

[D]

It's super nice to be back. You know, I kind of got excited about it with the parties we had last week, you know, kind of the, the dress rehearsals, your, your birthday party, hubby's birthday party, that sort of thing. But to come back here to do a show.

[A]

My birthday party, by the way.

[D]

That's true.

[A]

I mean, I just want you to not think you got away with being at my birthday. That was not my birthday party. That was just. That was the friends and family opening dinner. That was not a birthday party.

[D]

I felt like it was an early.

[B]

For Matt's birthday party.

[A]

Yeah, we actually are supposed to do something for my birthday party, which this is the way Shannon, I think he's going to try to get out of it is by saying he already came.

[D]

I did. I was here Saturday night for the big Matthew Harper Jones.

[A]

That was not a birthday party.

[D]

I felt like it was.

[A]

Well, okay. But anyway.

[D]

And we come back here today and it feels like we haven't left.

[A]

Yes. You are dressed up.

[D]

I am dressed up.

[B]

Threw me off.

[A]

Why? Why are you dressed up?

[D]

I am shooting a commercial for alarm.com. they're the parent company of Silent Guard that's my system. My system that saved my house when it caught on fire.

[A]

So you're. You're doing a national television commercial?

[D]

Yeah, they wanted to fly me to Washington, D.C. to shoot it there, and I told him, I said, look, I got too much stuff going on. We got KS bar opening game week, so they're fine.

[A]

You don't have anything going on. I mean, you could have gone to do the commercial. Yeah.

[C]

You're lonely, remember?

[A]

Yeah. I mean, you literally have been complaining about being lonely all week. You did what? You just didn't want to go.

[D]

I did not want to go, okay? I got something going on, like, every day this week.

[A]

Okay, so you're doing a commercial.

[D]

They're flying two guys in right now. I'm gonna.

[A]

Steven Spielberg?

[D]

I think so. Yes. And there. I'm gonna meet them at a studio here in town after the show to shoot.

[A]

So you're gonna be, like, a national endorser.

[D]

It's like. It's a testimonial type commercial.

[A]

And it's a testimonial for the fact that Alarm.com, like, told you your house was on fire, which allowed you to save it.

[D]

Yeah. Nobody was there when the alarm went off, and it sent the automatic signal to the fire department. The fire department got there before anybody else did. We didn't know it was on fire.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, he definitely owes him, but this seems like a big commitment you're doing here.

[A]

I can't believe you're gonna be on Nash. Are you. Do you think, like, is this, like, Sydney Sweeney with the jeans? Is there gonna be a protest or something happening with you?

[D]

I actually. I took a shower. I shaved. I cleaned wax out of my ears.

[A]

Okay, don't get any. No, no, no, no. It's plenty. I don't want you to have a chance to go down a gross path. We are opening a restaurant today, so. Well, good. Well, congratulations on the thing. I asked him, Drew, you know, I didn't need details, but I was like, are you being paid well for this? And he told me he's doing it for free. That's the.

[B]

That's, like, Brian Lemon's brand, though. If you need.

[A]

If you need a shout out, you know, that's not how it works, though. Like, you. Like, you know, you. You could get paid for these things.

[D]

But I. I feel like they saved my house and they saved my dogs. I kind of feel like I owe them a little bit, you know? So I don't. And, you know, I was their endorser. They endorsed here. Ksr, they built the help sponsor the. The jail that I had to spend a week in here that was silent guard. So I feel like I kind of owe them back a little something.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Are you gonna end up being these late night infomercials that run just over and over?

[A]

He's gonna be like the guy who used to do all the push ups. Yeah. Well, good. Well, I'm glad you're doing that. I could tell you were doing something important because you were wearing your one polo shirt that you wear when you wanna. When you wanna be fancy.

[D]

No logos. No logos on it.

[A]

Yeah, you're one pair of pants that you have. So it's nice to. Nice to have KS Bar where we are back open after a long period of time of being off. We'll. Well, we will be open at 11 o'. Clock. Love to have you come by for lunch today. But it's nice to be back. You know, we. We decided for a few months in the summer to kind of reset. If you look around just a quick explanation. We. We changed the tabletops in here. You might see that they're shiny and new. We redid the floors so. So as you can see, the floors are brand new, including having some new blue paint. You changed a lot of these pictures in here. A lot more pictures and a lot different jerseys, et cetera. You guys spent a lot of time on this. Looks, looks really good. Changed the place behind us. We switched a ton of the televisions around and then most importantly, I think we very much improved our menu. I think the wings and the logs, cheese logs, are the same. A couple other things are same, but most stuff is new, including we're doing smash burgers from Noche Linda which are really good there. It's a lot of new appetizers, potato wedges, which I think I'm gonna eat those probably more than I should because they're actually really, really good. So anyway, you will see when you come a the I guess you would say KS Bar drew 2.0.

[B]

Yeah, I mean I'm just excited to be here in here at all. But I'm probably gonna eat lunch here and I know I'm gonna eat dinner here. So I'm looking forward to eating the new stuff. Those mashed potato barrel kegs, whatever we're.

[A]

It's called tater cakes.

[B]

Tater kegs, my goodness. That'll. That will be part of both they.

[A]

I'm telling you all and the tater kegs, like they're really, really good and like you'll sit there and you'll go, this can't be good for me. And it probably isn't. I don't know what all's in it, but it can't be good because, like, it's. It's really. That was one. When we went to the. To the te test kitchen, I was like, all right, we have to do that.

[B]

I haven't told my body that we're done with vacation yet. So I got one more day to really push it to the limit. So I'll be eating all of it.

[D]

All the appetizers are really, really good. But those tater kegs, that's the one everybody's gonna be talking about. There we first open, they were talking about our cheese logs. Now it's the tater kegs. We got them both now.

[A]

So we're opening. We got all week in here. And then we will next week be having a lot of specials and stuff throughout the week. And then, of course, game day Saturday, we'll have breakfast. But anyway, we are here, and we'll be here today, Wednesday and Thursday. And I'll also note today and tomorrow, the moment this show ends, I have ESPN from 12 to three, so I'm gonna be sitting at this stage for five straight hours. So if you want to come by today from 12 to 3 during the commercial breaks, I'd be glad to say hi to you because I'm hosting. What is it? What's on from 12 to 3? Joe and Q. This is like, the last week. Rich Eisen comes next week, so I'm kind of keeping the seat warm for Rich Eisen to come in here next week.

[B]

Drew, sounds like a big responsibility you have today. I'll share some of my food with you while I'm here for lunch.

[A]

Little nervous, though, because, like, I'm driving the show. Have no idea what it's about. They're going to send me at, like, 11:30. The thing I've done no re. Like three hours on national radio in the middle of the day on ESPN Radio. I'm driving today with Myron, and I have no idea what the show's about.

[B]

Well, you're an NFL pro. I'd say it's mostly going to be cuts, roster moves. Those are all going down this morning yesterday.

[A]

All right, so, yeah, let's. Trey Hendrickson has just agreed to a new contract.

[D]

There you go. Lead story.

[A]

All right. I guess that those are the things that we're going to do. Some positive news on the my street, and I'm ready to have people thrown in prison. Oh, what happened Somebody last night came and put cardboard signs outside my yard that said no parking. I don't know who did that, but they're.

[D]

They're an angel, but thank you. Yes.

[A]

Because they're actually. It's an actual, like, sign, but they. They attached cart. Like, just cardboard. Like from a cardboard box on it.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Better.

[B]

Nothing.

[A]

But you know what? I think it works because I got the. I got up this morning. There were no cars. So you know what? Whoever did that, I thank you. I appreciate it, because I guess they knew Drew, that I would not be able to do that.

[B]

That or they're holding that spot for when they go to the next big event, and they're just gonna pull their. Pick their sign up and pull it.

[A]

They're holding it for themselves.

[B]

I'm gonna guess it's a listener who has narrowed down where you live, and they were just helping you out. Very kind. Very kind of.

[D]

You got to think of maybe one of your neighbors, like, as frustrated as you are, decided we're going to do something about it.

[A]

Could be. Could be because they are in a couple of other yards.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So. So it could be a neighbor who. Who decided to.

[D]

So those signs will work pretty well until it rains or storms, and then.

[A]

Then I hadn't. Did you know that yesterday Was the coldest August 25th in Lexington history? Got down to 48 degrees after we had a pretty hot summer. 48 degrees last night in August. And then according to Chris Bailey, that's the first time it's been in the 40s in August in. Since, like, the 50s.

[B]

After all that heat we had last month, I'm. I'm ready for it. I'm glad it's showing up a little early with football here. I'm ready to jump into hoodie season.

[A]

I never stopped. I never stopped.

[B]

It's starting to drop. Just in time.

[A]

Forget it.

[D]

Felt like football season last night, didn't it, walking outside? It did.

[A]

It did a little bit. All right, so the depth chart came out yesterday, and I thought it would be nice as part of the preview. We've talked all year about how we don't know who these people are. How about we say their names, right? Like, how about we learn their names? How about. Mario, you don't take one of the people that's here and stand directly in front of them so that they. So that they cannot see. All right? He literally. Mario had butt to face right there, right next to his face on. On a Tuesday morning. Okay, here we go.

[D]

You ready?

[A]

Ready?

[D]

Introduce us to these people.

[A]

All Right here is your starting line. Starting offensive line. Shiash Pete. We all know who that is. That's going to be the left tackle.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Left guard Joshua Braun. That's a name some of you may not have heard. Let me tell you what schools he's gone to, okay? Arkansas, Florida and Shawnee.

[D]

Shawnee.

[A]

This kid started at Shawnee and is now at his third SEC school so far. Drew.

[B]

And one of the only players to have been getting much preseason recognition. You get guys on those watch lists, but they had 75 players. But he was one that got a little all SEC love.

[A]

Center is Jagger Burton. How do you think he's going to do it? Center?

[D]

I think he's going to be an NFL center at some point in his career. So I think this just the start of a big season for Jagger.

[A]

You think he's gonna be an NFL?

[D]

Yep, I think he is.

[A]

If Ryan Lemon knew you when you were a kid, you're gonna get praised. That's just how it is. Right guard Jalen Farmer.

[D]

He's the only other returner that we all kind of knew his name from last year. On the. On the line.

[A]

That's exactly right. Our right tackle, Alex Wolsch. Lager. Which, by the way, we serve here. We have. We serve a good wall Schlogger. You got to be ready to take a shot.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's Gold Slogger. No relation. We' Walley. Big guy. Not at the tackle spots. There's some freshmen behind them, so we're gonna need him to stay healthy and have a good year.

[A]

He comes from Bowling Greece. Green State. Did you. I thought it was just Bowling Green. Is it Bowling Green State?

[B]

This Bowling Green State?

[D]

I guess it is.

[A]

I didn't know that. I thought it was just bowling. Did they always call it Bowling Green State?

[B]

I don't really hear anyone use it when you're saying it.

[A]

Yeah. I always feel like they say, okay, wide receiver at the X. I didn't know. I knew there was an X and a Z. I didn't learn till this chart that there's an F. Did you know there was an F?

[D]

Slot guy.

[A]

Why don't they just say slot? I've heard that. I didn't know there was an F. X. Hardly. Gilmore came from Nebraska at one point. Or J.J. hester, who came from Oklahoma and Missouri. Another player drew with his third SEC school.

[B]

Yeah. And these are kind of just alphabetical and ors. They ordered the whole wide receiver room. So we didn't really get. We have an idea. Kendrick Law. Macklin are going to be in the mix but Stoops is really going to give the whole room and opportunity.

[A]

You mentioned Kendrick Law. He's the wide receiver in the slot. He went to Alabama. And then Jamari Macklin. Of course we know him. Tight end Josh Cattus. He's a returner superstar. Yes. Other tight end, the F Willie Rodriguez, Kentucky and everybody knows him as well. Quarterback Zach Calzada is the quarterback. He has been to incarnate word. Auburn, Texas A and M. Another kid at his third SEC school at the quarterback and then running back. They did another. Or Drew Dante Dow from Nebraska or Seth McGowan from New Mexico State.

[B]

I'm excited about these two. Dow, Dell, a little more power. Gonna punch in those goal line runs where we couldn't get in the end zone last year. McGowan more like a pro type back. He's got a very unique path in getting here. But I'm excited to watch him. It's crazy. You got Wilcox as your leading rusher a year ago and now he's down to fourth. So that room has really improved.

[A]

Ryan, do you know who our kicker is?

[D]

I do not know our kicker.

[A]

Do you do Drew does. Drew, do you know what state our kicker is from?

[B]

I'm gonna say it's somewhere way out there. It's like Montana.

[A]

It is Montana. We have a Montana kicker, Jacob Kawhi.

[B]

I think actually not great.

[A]

He's apparently can kick it 60 yards over a mountain and he's from Montana and this will be his first year kicking. He is our kicker. Of course. Our punter is from snap snout South Africa. The one story is that they're not going to have Jamari Macklin returning punts now. Ryan, they're going to have Ty Bright, your guy from Frederick Douglass.

[D]

Ty Bryant returned a lot of kicks at Frederick Douglass, ran a lot back for touchdowns. I thought they may give Montavion, Queens and Berry a shot at doing that too. Maybe this season. The kid from Boyle County.

[A]

Is that an offense that you think can put up points?

[D]

I think it's an offensive put up points.

[A]

Did you hear that big deep breath?

[D]

I don't think it's enough.

[A]

That was a big deep breath. That worries me a little bit.

[D]

So I think it can put up points. I don't think they can put up a lot of points. I think we're have to win our games like 21 to 2014 to 13.

[A]

So you don't think this is going to be a an exciting offense?

[D]

I don't think it's Going to be a big explosive lighting up the scoreboard offense.

[B]

Stoops is going back to his old ways, going to run the damn ball. So that offensive line has to be good. And I think they have to start, stay healthy. The two deep, there are a lot of freshmen in there. They've got some guys that left to bulk up on the. Coming off the bench. So if the, if the main five can play well and stay healthy, I think they'll be able to run and set up Calzada to take a few shots.

[A]

What sticks out to me, big picture is there is. There is some are some returning players, specifically the tight end, two offensive linemen. But this is a new offense. Like, this is a completely new group. Probably of the guys that are going to start on this week compared to starting on week one last year, you're looking at like one guy, like Josh Cat is to Jagger, Burton, everybody else. Brian. It's a new group. We'll see what happens.

[D]

That's why we, you know, somebody got on us yesterday about we don't know the names or how they're going to do because we brought new faces. It's a whole new offense, a whole new look, whole new position these guys are playing.

[A]

Completely new. We'll see how it works out. We will do the defense and other stuff going into it, including, you know, sometimes when Ryan Lemon makes his mayoral decisions, they do not. They're not always popular. I'm gonna get him to make his gubernator gubernatorial decision.

[D]

All right, this is a, this is.

[A]

An issue I think could go either way. What would Ryan Lemon do? We'll take a break. Be right back. It's KSR. Welcome back. Techie Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. Text machine 772-774-5254. Let me quickly go through the other starters. McQuees, Humphrey, Grace from. He comes from South Dakota and Princeton. Feels like a pretty big jump.

[D]

I'm telling. It's the first time I've heard that dude's name.

[A]

Well, he's your starting defensive end.

[B]

Probably one of the best players.

[A]

He might be. He might literally be one of the highest touted players we have.

[D]

I'm hearing his name for the first time.

[A]

Well, hopefully you hear him more. David Gusta. He's supposed to be really good. Drew from Washington State.

[B]

He'll be the best on defense.

[A]

You think he's going to be our best defensive player?

[B]

I think the defensive line is a big strength.

[A]

All right. And then Khalil Saunders has been on the Team. We know him. Outside linebacker, Sam Green from Southern Cal. D Vern Rayner, he's from Northern Illinois.

[B]

The Tick Tock.

[D]

He played a lot last year.

[A]

Oh, that's the guy that's mad at us. That's the guy that jumped.

[B]

He jumped.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Okay, got him. He's going to do great. He's good.

[D]

He's really good.

[A]

He's really good. Alex Safari, we know. Kwai Sheed, Scott.

[D]

I'm hearing that name for the first time.

[A]

He's our nickel.

[B]

He's been here before.

[D]

Don't know him.

[B]

Gonna have to make a big jump.

[A]

D.J. waller, that's. He was here last year. Came from Michigan, right? J.Q. j.Q. Hardaway was here last year. Ty Bryant was here last year. Jordan Lovett was here last year. So the secondary is all. Are all guys that we that have been here. The back five are all guys that we know.

[B]

Secondary and defensive line shouldn't be too concerned.

[A]

Actually. Not a huge amount of changes on defense in the starting. Really.

[B]

Linebackers are all pretty much new. Even Afari, he came here as a defensive back. He's been on the team for five years, but he's moved up, taken on a bigger role. If the linebackers play well, I think Kentucky will get back to having a good defense.

[A]

Mark Stoops was asked, what do you think about there being nine SEC games? And he said, you know, I made my opinion clear on that in the past, but now that it's coming, bring it on. I like that attitude, to be honest with you, Ryan. Like, I mean, what are you going to do about it at this point? You got to, it's, it's happening, so we might as well make it work.

[D]

I remember he came on this show after the COVID year. They had to play 10 SEC games and he said there was no way he would ever be in favor of expanding it more than eight games. But now he's like, there's, you know, it is what it is. We have to, we have to. Can't hide from it. You got to go out and play the games.

[A]

So with all that said, gave you the roster, gave you the teams, etc. Is that a better football team than last year, yes or no?

[B]

I don't think it's gonna be close. I've thought that since December they'll be better than last year. How good will it be? Still a little uncertain, but just I mentioned Wilcox going from your top rusher to probably not playing much. I mean, you've added so many pieces that have improved. I mean, I think we can all expect, whoever Calzada is, surely he won't quit football and go back to hunting because it was so bad. They've improved a lot across the board.

[A]

I mean, honestly, nothing that is true. I mean, I don't think it gets taught. To me, the most legendary UK football quarterback story is that we had a quarterback skip the final game to take the lsat. I mean, I think that's like, we'll never top that. We had a UK football player skip the final game to take the lsat.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

This one, though, of him quitting football to go hunting is. It's second to that.

[B]

But it's not really his fault. The line was awful. It can't be that bad.

[A]

But, I mean, that's what I'm saying. I'm not blaming him. I'm just saying if your experience was so bad, you decided, I don't even want to play this game anymore. I want to.

[B]

A turkey hunt.

[A]

That's not a great sign for how things went. Right.

[B]

So we can expect Calzada to be. My goodness, to burn it down.

[D]

But, yeah, the quarterback play, I think will be better. The offensive line play will be better. I think our running game will be better.

[A]

All right, so that's my football thing. Let's talk about basketball. Did you see what Todd golden said yesterday about Denzel Aberdeen, the UK player? So Denzel Aberdeen, of course, came from Florida. Todd golden went on John Rothstein's podcast, said, I love Denzel Aberdeen. He's great. But ultimately, I guess he had to make a financial decision to go to Kentucky, and he says, we're not too happy about it. I'm sure my. Our fans are looking forward to when he comes back here to the Odom. Kind of a little trash talking from a coach in a way you don't often see coaches react to players that. That leaves. What'd you make of that?

[D]

I can see why he's. He's butthurt. You know, they just won a national title.

[A]

But why exactly. Why is he butthurt? This kid helped win him a national.

[D]

Title, and I think he thought he was going to be the main cog of rebuilding the next year's team. And I think, you know, assumed he would be back and build around him.

[A]

But let me ask you all something. Does anybody. Did Todd golden leave San Francisco for Florida? Does anybody remember that?

[B]

I do.

[A]

Did Todd golden leave San Francisco for Florida for more money?

[D]

I believe he did.

[A]

Did Todd golden act like it was completely normal for him to go somewhere else for more Money.

[D]

So maybe a financial decision.

[A]

So that was a financial decision. So why does he think that it's somehow a reason to be angry that Denzel Aberdeen might have done the same thing?

[B]

I think we just need to get used to this. Where coaches maybe. I'm sure he wanted to keep Aberdeen six man international championship team, but he's making a point to really let people know that Kentucky overpaid. He's trying to say we could. We had a number. We thought it was good, but, oh, he had to go to Kentucky because it was this outrageous number that we weren't going to.

[A]

Yeah, you know what? That's lies. But.

[B]

But I think we're going to be hearing this a lot in recruiting. They're going to make an excuse for why a player that is beloved went.

[A]

To another school and they're just going to. They're in a noise me so much that these coaches act like they own these players. It annoys me to no end because they never hold themselves to the same standard. Todd, go. Listen. If Kentucky were to offer Todd Golden $4 million more the year than Florida, if Florida were to say no, what would Todd golden do?

[D]

He'd leave.

[A]

He would come to Kentucky. He would. So he decided not to give as much as Kentucky. That's your choice. Maybe it was the right choice. I don't know. But how could you act like Denzel Aberdeen shouldn't have done it.

[B]

Yeah. And we had the money. We'll take him.

[A]

Sorry you're broke, apparently. Sorry you don't have the money.

[B]

Just.

[A]

All right, we'll spend it. We'll be right back.

[D]

TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call tj. He'll make him pay.

[C]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jo.

[A]

Welcome back. Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio 8592802287 here at the opening of KS Bar. We will open here in about 30 minutes. Got some folks here from Lancaster. We got Mount Vernon. We got some faces we are used to from the days in the past. And we're going to open here in a bit. Mario is. Mario's gonna be here taking pictures.

[D]

Got a new haircut.

[A]

You see that dude? Mario gets his hair done more than anybody I've ever seen. Like once a week. I'm like, can you meet Mario, get my hair done like he's. But it looks good. I like it. How long does it take? Hour and a half.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yours take that long?

[D]

Takes like 30 seconds. I did wash my hair, try to style it for the big Commercial shoot today.

[A]

Speaking of hair, did you see the big tennis player, Carlos Alcaraz? I don't know why I did this. Like, this is how you're gonna serve. He debuted at the US Open. You know, he's the number one player in the world. Shaved his head completely. Like, shaved his head. Like Ed Norton in American History X. He had great hair, too. And women are very upset. Women are like, what are you doing? You had gray hair. Why did you shave your head? And he said afterwards that it just made it to where he felt like it was easier for him to move across the court, which I don't totally understand. I don't feel like hair really hurts you in the game of tennis. But what do you think about it?

[B]

I think he copied off a Kentucky offensive lineman because Josh Braun, who we mentioned, recently buzzed his head and says he doesn't have to want to have to deal with his hair during the season. So maybe. Maybe it's just a thing. You're so committed to your craft that you don't want to have to get up and be like Ryan and put product in it.

[A]

But I feel like when you have great hair, you're being rude to those of us that don't.

[D]

Amen.

[A]

By not having it.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Like, if you're Carlos Alcaraz, like, you've been blessed with the genetics of great hair. Don't spit in the face, Ryan, of people who never had great hair by not embracing it.

[D]

Right.

[A]

That's what.

[D]

That's how I kind of feel about it. You know, those of us that aren't blessed with great hair, we're going bald. You've got hair. We'll trade you in a second. We could, man. Show off that hair. Live it up.

[A]

I don't like Mark Pope. Like, Mark Pope has hair.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But he chooses voluntarily to buzz his hair. I don't. Are there many people that do that?

[B]

Buzz Williams claims he does.

[A]

I. I don't know. He does.

[B]

He does.

[A]

He says the same thing as Pope. Buzz Williams claims he has hair.

[B]

It's almost like the exact same excuse. Same. Same excuse as Pope that I hear now.

[A]

Because he got a transplant.

[B]

Yeah. He says it was for years. Like Pope. I got a bunch of girls and a wife, and I would just shave my head and. One less thing to deal with.

[A]

So he's claiming that's not a transplant.

[B]

Yep. I believe Pope. You can see Pope's hairline.

[A]

No, no. I think Pope has hair, Buzz.

[B]

That's what he's going.

[A]

So you tell me. Buzz Williams is saying that's not a transfer.

[B]

He went, I think it was, pardon my take, years ago.

[A]

Just.

[B]

Just to save money in time. Just shaves his head.

[A]

Shannon, you believe that?

[C]

I mean, why would you get a hair transplant then shave your head? What would be the point in that? So I do believe it because he's.

[B]

Not claiming the transplant. He's just saying. That's why.

[A]

No, I'm saying to you, he. I thought what he had this year was a transplant. But you're saying it's not.

[D]

He's saying it's his natural hair. He's just not cutting it is thin anymore.

[B]

He said to save money when they had another daughter.

[A]

That. I believe that. All right, I want you all to be my. My counsel and give me your opinion on this. This is happening right now.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

If you were in charge of the state, what would you do? 1462 Kentuckians, due to a mistake by the state, were accidentally sent. Is it ebt? Is that what it's called when you. EBT claims. So they were sent basically stuff for food, right. That you send to people who are struggling. 462 families were sent it for children that didn't qualify. They just accidentally sent it to the wrong people. The people got them and were able to spend them. I think they said there were a few hundred that had. Spin it some that did. The state is now going back to them and saying you have to pay that money back. And if you don't pay the money back, we will tax it to you as income and you have to pay it all back. I think it's even like a fine if you don't pay it back. Some of these people are saying, like, I thought maybe we just got. I mean, when the state senate. I thought we were good.

[B]

I got approved.

[A]

I've spent it, and I don't have the money to pay it back because some of these. Most of these people were not rich. These were people who were right. I think what it was is, let's say the line was $25,000. They gave it for people who were up to like 35,000. They just made the wrong line. It was in four counties, one of which is Scott County. It was. The state acknowledges it was its mistake, but as of now, the state is saying you have to pay this money back. Do you think if the state sends you money and they're wrong, that and. And you've had time to spend it, you didn't do. You didn't file anything illegally, that it was the state's mistake? Do you Think you should have to pay it back.

[D]

I'll go first. I'm gonna say, no. State should stand up. We made a mistake. But lady luck is shining on you guys right now. Welcome. A gift from the state of Kentucky will correct it. It won't happen again. I think they just got to eat it.

[B]

I think you got to eat it too. You're probably dealing with a lot of lower income people and you're just going to put them in a much worse spot than they were in when they applied to get it.

[A]

If this were, they didn't apply. Like, these are people who were just sent the money.

[B]

If, you know, if they accidentally wired you $50,000 in cash, okay, you shouldn't spend that. You should know that's not correct. But EBT to get food, even if you weren't supposed to get it, I don't think they can then take that from you. Over their era, they just need to say, our bad. You got away with this one, Shannon.

[A]

What about you?

[C]

The state should own it. They made the mistake. And I mean, what are those people supposed to think now? Anytime they get sent money, we should wait maybe a year.

[A]

That's true. Like, they'll never trust any of the money that gets for it to come.

[C]

Right back, you know?

[A]

Well, okay, so let me. What, what about this? And this isn't, I don't think true with these people, but what if you could show that the people knew they weren't supposed to get it and we're like, well, I must have gotten lucky.

[D]

Okay, yeah.

[A]

Let's say, let's say they knew they weren't supposed to get it. So let's say, you know what you get every month for my heart. Okay, let's say next month you get 2,000 more dollars.

[C]

This happened to me, by the way.

[D]

You know, this happened to me too.

[C]

You know this happened to me.

[A]

Wait a minute. This happened to all of you?

[C]

Oh, a significant amount of money back to the company.

[A]

Oh, you owe. You owe money, Shannon. Yes, you owe money.

[C]

I have to pay it back by the end of the year.

[D]

They gave me some of Drew's paycheck one time, but I didn't have to pay that back.

[A]

Oh, you didn't have to pay it?

[B]

They never asked my money and told me to deal with it.

[C]

They're making me pay it back.

[A]

Oh, wait, so they're not making you pay it back?

[B]

This could be a whole meeting. Yes, that we should have had months ago.

[A]

Yeah, well, maybe we shouldn't hear this out here on the air, but okay, so, Shannon, when you decide. When you heard you had to pay it back, do you think you should have to pay it back? No.

[C]

They made the mistake. I'll tell you what they shouldn't. They'll never make that mistake again. If they didn't have to pay. If I didn't have to pay them.

[A]

Back, you know, See, I.

[C]

But I mean, what are you going to do about it? There's nothing.

[A]

So we did this. This happened with ksr, with someone where they stopped working for us.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And the system kept paying them. And that person didn't. Knew that they were not working for us anymore and was just taking the money. And that really frustrated me. So for me, it's weird. It's almost like the knowledge makes a difference for me. But for these people, I think it's different. When it's the state, you have to assume the state's not gonna screw up. If you get money from the state, you have to assume the state knows what it's doing. Right. Wouldn't you think?

[D]

I don't think that a lot of these people, like you said, maybe we're on the borderline of receiving some kind of funds anyway, so maybe they thought the state is finally going to, you know, we didn't get the. The big Covid return or the tax return or whatever, but their state's gonna kind of reward us with this.

[A]

You certainly wouldn't think the state would give you money, and it wasn't. Correct.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And this is EBT for groceries. Not like, here's a big, large sum of cash. That's a big difference for me.

[A]

That's true. It's for groceries.

[B]

There's limitations.

[A]

It wasn't used to, like, go to the.

[B]

Get a car.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I didn't realize I'd touched a nerve.

[C]

Really close to home for me.

[A]

I had no idea. All that's happen all three of you.

[D]

Well, I didn't even know it. Drew told me, said, hey, I think they gave you some of my paycheck. Like, I had no. I had no idea until he even told me.

[B]

All right, I can do a whole lot on this. Yeah.

[C]

Let's continue. Next segment. Let's continue. I got a lot of things to say.

[A]

Let me tell you something. I can hear in Shannon's voice when there's something that, like, I don't even.

[C]

Know how that happens.

[A]

Touches him a certain way, like, how.

[C]

Does that even happen?

[D]

I. I think you're.

[A]

Well, I can tell you how it can happen. I mean, when we ended up paying when we ended up paying someone who, you know, you don't necessarily see it minute to minute. It's just all of a sudden because you. Like when we were paying someone who didn't work for us anymore, we were used to seeing the monthly thing, and then all of a sudden, we were like, why is this going up? And we didn't know until we'd hired someone else and was like, why are these expenses so much? And then we realized it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So I don't know. I mean, I. But I can also see why, if you were like, I thought, I got this. I don't have the money to pay it back right this minute. You know, I understand that.

[C]

I'm sitting there saying, where's the money?

[A]

At that.

[D]

Right. I'm sitting there in Georgetown, and I get this DBT card I got. I can feed my kids this week. You're excited about it?

[A]

Yeah. Well, right now, the state is saying to pay it back. Although I do wonder if that will change in the coming week. Does your car smell like French French fries And scream every time it starts? That's quite a way to start this read here.

[B]

I can't say that it does.

[A]

Are they trying to sell me a car that smells like French fries? No, they're saying maybe it's time to get a new car.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

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[C]

Look, man, Shane, I'll put up with a lot of stuff that's true money.

[A]

Everybody's got their thing, right? Everybody's got their thing. Like, I don't want to be lied to. Right, Ryan? Well, but everybody has their thing that really gets a mic.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, for me, it's lying. For you, it's like betrayal. Right, Ryan? That's the thing for you. I don't know exactly what it is for you, Drew.

[B]

I don't get angry. I genuinely don't.

[A]

But for Shannon, it's much the thing for Shannon is and has always been money. We'll take a break. Right back this KSI. Well, the text machine shows this is an issue that's happened to a lot of people apparently. It's okay. So let me be clear on two things I got wrong there. Just for factual accuracy. It's not the state. It is state money but distributed by the. It's the counties that made the mistake. Am I right about that? It's a school districts. It's the school districts that make the mistake. It's state money, but it's a school district. And it was people who were already qualified for EBT got more money than they would have thought. So it wasn't that people who did. So these are people who all are already are already on benefits.

[D]

So they just got.

[A]

So they need it. So they just got more than they normally would have got.

[D]

It's just like a Christmas bonus you get sometimes. They just got.

[A]

Apparently it's not. There's somebody here who said that this has happened to them and the state does make you take it, but they.

[D]

Make you pay it back.

[A]

Yes, that's. That was the story I just read. I just did it in the last segment. They make you pay it back.

[D]

I don't think that's right.

[C]

The problem is you spend it.

[A]

You don't think it's right.

[C]

Like a payback.

[A]

Yeah. You don't think it's right like it shouldn't happen or it doesn't happen.

[D]

I don't think it's right. They make these people pay it back.

[A]

Well, yeah, we agree that. All right. 859-280-2287. Who's up first?

[C]

Go to Chris.

[A]

Chris. Go ahead, Chris. Hey.

[E]

I just wanted to start off by saying I'm, I'm making a 12 hour trip to. Up there to for the first game. Very excited. Best thing about the beginning of the season is everybody's records the same.

[A]

That's true. I hope you'll focus on your 12 hour trip by the way.

[E]

I've already, I've already made plans. I'll be there nine o'clock in the morning.

[A]

All right, good.

[E]

But the, but to your, to your topic there. I actually just, I won't say which large home improvement store but I just made some home improvements and went to return some material and instead of crediting me back 8 pieces of tile, I didn't find out till 3 weeks later, they credited me back 18 cases of tile.

[A]

Okay, so when you got that credit though, did you know it was more money than you were supposed to get?

[E]

Oh yeah, absolutely. It was. It Was. I mean, the difference from $80 to $2,300.

[A]

So what did you do?

[E]

I didn't realize. Well, I didn't. Here's my. Here's where I was torn. Had I known right away, I would have immediately probably returned it.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

But I didn't find out until three weeks later when I looked at my receipt on my. I'll say, on my Lowe's gift card. And at that point in time, I literally just gave it back to him. Well, I gave it back to him in the sense that I bought new doors for my house.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, and I appreciate. I appreciate the call in that situation. I'd even be more mad at Adam, like, I just gave you the money. I think this kind of thing happens a lot. I'm generally of the view that the person that makes the mistake has to eat it. Unless the entity that knows knows and then is just like, yay. But how do you prove that? I don't even know if there is a way to prove that, to be honest with you. How do you prove what people know? It's very difficult.

[B]

I had this happen earlier this year where I got some money put in my account, and it was very obvious it wasn't supposed to be mine. And I thought a minute, for a second, I thought, the hassle this will be when it is found is more than I want to deal with. So I. Within an hour, I was like, hey, can we settle this asap? But it was like an obvious. Yeah, I knew it wasn't supposed to be mine. It was clear.

[A]

Well, interesting stuff. 859-280-2287. Did you like the pictures, Ryan, of the basketball team bonding by zip lining and all the various things they did? They went. They went zip lining, they went repelling, they did basically all the things I'm going to do in South Africa. And then there's that picture of Mark Pope with his feet up in the air going down the mountain.

[D]

I love it. I mean, you may not think stuff like that matters. It matters. You got a group of. These are kids, you know, these are 18, 19, 20 year old kids. And to get them to go to Natural Bridge and Laurel Lake and ziplining and do that kind of stuff, I mean, I think it was awesome. Great time of year to do it. So why not do something like that as a bonding experience?

[B]

Are you worried they played pickleball, though?

[A]

Well, that was gonna be part two. You know, I want this team to be really, really successful. And picking up the pickleball rackets, it makes Me a little bit nervous because there is, there is no. I mean, do you think that you think Kobe Bryant played pickleball?

[D]

Probably.

[A]

You do.

[B]

I don't think it was invented yet, but he would now. He'd own the league.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know. I didn't like the pickleball, but you know what? I do like all things bonding, but I didn't like that.

[B]

It was interesting seeing a seven footer just riding a jet ski around Cumberland or wherever they were.

[A]

Yeah, they went.

[B]

Chandler looks like he's. He's done some laking before.

[A]

Yeah, they did. I mean they went. So the basketball team, they went to Natural Bridge, they went to Lake Cumberland, they went to the Gorge. I mean he basically, Mark Pope took them around the sort of, you know, the highlights of, of Kentucky.

[D]

Get to see the beautiful parts of our state. Yeah. Teaching them about Kentucky.

[A]

I like that Mark Pope does that. I do like that Mark Pope seems to want to show the guys the state. I think there's value in that for so, so that they know what they're representing. I get that. Like they're getting money and, and I get all that. But there is value, what they're a part of, etc.

[B]

Yeah. You know, unfortunately they've had to go out in the state for fundraising for issues we had. But it's also good for them to just go out for whether it's at a boat and meeting the people that around or assume at grand openings of things. It's just good for them to know the fan base they're representing.

[A]

There was a great. There's a great story which I encourage everybody to read about the revitalization of Horse Cave, Kentucky. I guess Horse Cave has caves. Yeah, not surprisingly. And starting in like the 50s, they had started to let sewage get it down in there and waste from industry. And their caves smelled apparently just hideous. You couldn't even walk by the cave without the smell just knocking you down. And I guess they started some project in like the 80s to try to clean it up. And now this town of 3,000 people gets like 150,000 people a year in their caves. It's revitalized. The town has like 3,000 people has getting all these people and it's all because they got rid of the stink in Horse Cave. The New York Times did a long feature about the removal of the Horse Cave stink.

[B]

I read the first three paragraphs and saw the photos. So it asked for my password, but I was really into it. It's fascinating. Like the images look cool. It Looks like it's gonna be a nice destination.

[A]

It looks awesome.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like. Like it looks awesome and unlike and. And it's easily accessible. Like, apparently, you know, it's easy to get in and then get out of. People are coming from all over, but I didn't realize. Did you know that that was there? I mean, I guess you assume with cave in the name it was, but yeah.

[D]

We have a listener and he'll probably text me today. He's offered to give us a tour of the new horse cave cave. Now that they do.

[A]

They said that part of the reason the downtown business is closed is that the cave stunk so bad.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

That you couldn't even walk down the street without being knocked down by the smell of cave stink. And now all that stink is gone.

[B]

I'd want to buy a stock and horse cave. I feel like it's on the way up now. They got rid of the smell.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

It feels like an oasis.

[A]

In that case, seems like it. 859-280-2287. KSBAR. We're going to open here just momentarily.

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Come on.

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