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Shannon Dawson
Nmlsconsumeraccess.Org welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.
Matt Jones
Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287 Text machine is 772-774-5254 Here at the KS Bar tomorrow we were supposed to be in Lebanon for a remote but we are, we're moving that to probably next week. So we will check your online. We might be here at the bar, we might not, but we will not be doing that. So just keep that on your, on your schedule. Ryan, we are, we are getting ready for the start of football season. Kentucky and Toledo, we'll probably spend a lot of time tomorrow previewing that game. I did have one question for you.
Drew Franklin
All right.
Matt Jones
Okay. We, we talked about this yesterday about football, but a little basketball question because I got a lot of response when I saw it. Okay. We, we often talk about who should be in the rafters, who shouldn't be in the rafters. And, and that's a long conversation we don't have to get into. But the question that I saw posed online is let's start with like Pitino era to now and let's remember that Mashburn and Delk have been put in the rafters. Okay. They're in. What is the order of Kentucky players that should go in the rafters from now forward from that era and where would you stop it? Okay, so what is the order and where would you stop it? So here was my answer to the question. And by the way, I'm doing Order, not necessarily in timeline. I'm doing in the who deserves it the most. Okay, so I had Anthony Davis first. I'm going to say, and this is controversial, but I think the numbers back me up. I'm going to say Keith Bogan's second.
Drew Franklin
Absolutely.
Matt Jones
Then I'm going to say John Wall, and then I'm going to say Tayshon Prince.
Drew Franklin
Those are the four.
Matt Jones
And then those four are definite. Like, you got to do it. And then I'll hear a case for. And I'm probably willing to consent and put up as a fifth Oscar because he was national player of the year. And we don't have a lot of people who've been national player of the year. But then I'm probably stopping. All right. If I were to restart after Oscar, I think again, if you look at the numbers and the achievements, you probably have to go Willie next. And then next for me would probably be Antoine Walker. And then I would kind of stop again. And then I definitely, probably wouldn't go past that. But I'm probably stopping after Oscar. But I think Oscar's kind of a debate, but I think because he was national player, you kind of have to do it. But that's mine. Do you disagree or agree. Do you agree or disagree with any of those people or the. The way the order.
Drew Franklin
I'm definitely on board with you. Those top four, Prince, Bogans, Wall, Anthony Davis, I think they're. They're locks. But you're right about that 96 team. Maybe one of the top two teams we've ever had.
Matt Jones
But Tony Ducks up.
Drew Franklin
That's it. There's got to be somebody else, I.
Matt Jones
Think from that team, but maybe that's who it is. Maybe that team. I mean, think about the 2015 team. Right now. There's a good chance there'll be no one from that team that ends up in the rafters. That that team was 38. 1. And we might never have one person in the rafters from that team. And if it does, if they do, it's Willie who's. When we talk about that team, probably the most forgotten because people think of the Twins and Carl and even Devin Booker and Ulis and Willie would probably be the one with the best credentials.
Drew Franklin
The 2015 team and the 98 national championship team. They're going to be anybody trying to.
Ryan Lemond
Think of somebody from 98 up.
Matt Jones
I mean, I mean, who you putting up from the 98 team? I mean, Jeff shepherd won the MVP, but he was not even the best player on the team for most of the Year.
Drew Franklin
Right.
Matt Jones
So I don't really.
Ryan Lemond
I was gonna say Turner.
Matt Jones
I think he's got two rings. Turner would probably be the guy. But does it feel like Wayne Turner?
Drew Franklin
It doesn't.
Matt Jones
Is a rafters guy.
Ryan Lemond
If you went there and looked at the rafters, you would. Real quick because I think a lot of people.
Matt Jones
Well, there's a lot of people that should be up there.
Ryan Lemond
I would probably include him. Just to have someone from that 98 team, I'd probably go Turner.
Matt Jones
Do you agree with my order of the first people?
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, I don't think Oscar and Willie are any debate though. They're high on my list. So when you said it's controversial. I don't think Willie and Oscar. It should be any question.
Matt Jones
So you would go. Would you. Do you agree with my order? Would you go Davis first?
Ryan Lemond
I feel like there should be someone before Davis, but I can't think of anyone. So I guess, I guess so.
Matt Jones
I mean, Davis is arguably the first or second best player in the history of the school, so I'm fine putting him first.
Ryan Lemond
I was just working a little more chronologically, but no one is close enough.
Matt Jones
If you're doing it chronologically, then Tayshawn is not next. If you're doing chronologically, like if you're doing it, I think Taeshawn is next, then Bogan, then Wall, then Davis.
Ryan Lemond
I think part of the problem is they, they should have already had a lot of these already up and now I got to play a little catch up.
Matt Jones
Feels like TA should already be up and Bogans, Taeshawn and Bogan at this point. It's been 20 years since those guys played and to me, those guys should both be in the rafters.
Drew Franklin
It's been forever since they've retired. When was Tony Dilk the last one? 10 years ago. Whatever it was, we just put.
Matt Jones
No, I, I, I don't even think it was that long ago. We just did. Tony.
Ryan Lemond
It's been about.
Matt Jones
It was.
Ryan Lemond
It was a while ago.
Drew Franklin
It was a while ago because we were, we did. We were doing the show at a McDonald's, so don't.
Matt Jones
So then why not? So do we all agree? Not worth. But chronologically, Tayshawn should be next.
Ryan Lemond
Yes. And should have been done a long time ago. I know they have their rule about hall of fame plus X amount of years, but change the damn rule. Who cares? You need to get some names up there that deserve it. It's been too long.
Drew Franklin
And they just inducted Bogans into the UK hall of fame so his Clark clock didn't Start till later. So those are two guys that probably should have already been done.
Ryan Lemond
Wait till they're 80. I mean put them up there and let them enjoy it.
Matt Jones
Another thing, we should do it while people who loved and and like watch these guys while they're here to celebrate them. I'm not saying like Tayshawn and Bogan's fans are dying off. I'm in that core group so hopefully not. But. But I do think like do it.
Ryan Lemond
Like imagine Davis fresh off of NBA retirement where he's still a superstar coming back. You do it then have a moment. I mean that's much better than doing it when he's 60.
Matt Jones
I agree with you. Like wouldn't it be awesome to now that he's retiring, bring John Wall in this. In this year. It would be a great time. Like he's finishing his career and on his kind of swan song comes in and get his. Gets it. Get it in the rafters. That'd be great. But I don't think you can do Wall until you do Prince and Bogan.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I know we're doing patina on but to back up your point, you know Mike Pratt, Melvin Turpin probably should have been retired. They both passed before it ever happened. That's not right. They should honor these guys a little quicker, a little sooner while they're still able to appreciate with their family. Rex up there.
Matt Jones
No, no. And that's a tough one because like there's a really good argument for Rex but I actually think Rex's argument is weaker than the four guys we just mentioned. As good as Rex is. And I'm fine with Rex being up. I think Prince, Bogan's, Wall, Davis actually have a better argument than Rex.
Drew Franklin
I agree. Don't you agree Rex has got a good argument but not better than our top four. And you know they've got that weird rule where you have to be here for four years and they've got to change that.
Matt Jones
That's got to be changed. That's got to be. The four years rule has got to be changed or it just becomes a joke in some ways. Like if we don't. If we don't start having. Prince and Bogans are probably the last four year guys that will ever go up there.
Drew Franklin
Probably right.
Matt Jones
That wouldn't you say? Unless they do and they're the only. Because even like even like Oscar was a four year guy but he wasn't four years here. So I don't think I just. You're going to have to change that rule because that'll then we'll never have any money.
Ryan Lemond
So they're already so backed up. I just pulled the list with dates. This is crazy. It looks like there's been two in 25 years. Mike Pratt and Tony Dilk. For me, for the. We've joked about there's not a Hall of fame. It's ridiculous. We don't have that. But with all the tradition and players, how have there been two in 25 years?
Matt Jones
Well, I mean, I can tell you exactly what happened, which is while it was awesome to put up the unforgettables, the. There was a worry by people after CM Newton that he got caught up in the moment and did it. And we. They wanted to make sure people didn't get caught up in the moment anymore, which I actually kind of agree with. But I don't think we're getting caught up in the moment to put Tayshawn Prince in 25 years after he played here. Right.
Drew Franklin
He's. He is, in my opinion, even maybe the next one maybe more so later than Anthony Dave. Just because it's been.
Matt Jones
It's been so long.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Yeah. 859-280-2287. Who's up next?
Shannon Dawson
Miles.
Matt Jones
Miles. Go ahead, Miles.
Caller
I was. I. I just wanted to wish you happy birthday, Max. And this is. This is Miles from. From Danville.
Matt Jones
Oh, hey, Miles. Thank you very much. You're. You're a wonderful kid and I look forward to seeing you here again.
Caller
Yes.
Matt Jones
And.
Caller
Happy birthday to you.
Matt Jones
How sweet is that?
Caller
Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday dear Red Joan. Happy birthday to you.
Matt Jones
That is very sweet of you, Miles. Thank you very much. You don't know how much I appreciate that.
Caller
Yeah. And. And, and I also wanted to say that it was good to see mine. Yes. Today.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I saw Miles yesterday.
Matt Jones
Were you down there, Miles? Thank you very much. I appreciate your call. You were down there?
Drew Franklin
I was in Danville yesterday and he pulled up on the side of the street and I got to talk to Miles a little bit.
Matt Jones
What are you doing walking the streets of Danville?
Drew Franklin
Well, you know, we just kind of at his ECU train. We go. We go to the businesses. So we were doing little sales calling down in Danville yesterday.
Matt Jones
I saw by the way, your outfit for that television shoot. You looked very professional. It was a nice slimming sh. And like you were wearing khakis.
Drew Franklin
Had my hair all done. I mean, I looked. Looked like a movie star.
Matt Jones
Yeah. That didn't stick out. But I think everything else, like I was. I. I thought you really looked like a guy who could be on television.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I think so, too. I think Hollywood's probably calling. Probably had a couple missed calls from them already.
Matt Jones
That's very nice of Miles, by the way. Also, a guy came in here a minute ago and gave me a birthday present. This is a 1975 Dan Issel Kentucky Colonels car.
Drew Franklin
Wow.
Matt Jones
Which was very nice. I said, hey, man, like, that might be worth some money. He goes, got two. And I said, well, okay. So that's cool, isn't it?
Ryan Lemond
Very cool.
Matt Jones
Look at those socks they used to wear for the Cardinals.
Ryan Lemond
We're pretty close to getting back to those shorts if we're not already there.
Matt Jones
Did Dan Isle, did he look the same from 18 to 65? He did, because he's like 24 or 25 in this picture, and he looks like he could be 40, but then he still kind of looks 40 now. So I feel like Dan Isle just kind of. Did he just come out of the womb being 40?
Ryan Lemond
Maybe. Maybe stuck on 40 just like you?
Matt Jones
I'm not accepting 40.
Ryan Lemond
Dan did the same thing you did. He edited his face.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Are you saying Dan back in the day, you say Dan when he was.
Ryan Lemond
When he played going to City City with the aba, Changed his age, couldn't get it back.
Matt Jones
Well, that happens to everybody. Who's next?
Shannon Dawson
Jacob.
Matt Jones
Jacob. Go ahead, Jacob.
Caller
Hey, Matt. Happy birthday.
Matt Jones
Thank you.
Caller
Just wanted to say two things. One, I think that about the Kentucky football team, I think that their schedule is going to reveal really how resilient they are. I think if they come out of the gate hot, get the first three, and then they can endure the. The month of October with going to South Carolina, you know, having to play Texas, having to play Georgia. They can endure that and then come back into, you know, November and be able to kind of start over again and really get going there. Then I think that they. They have a real shot at making a bowl.
Matt Jones
Well, yeah, I mean, you've just given them. You've given. If you say if they win their first three games, I mean, they play Ole Miss in their second game. If they win the Ole Miss game, heck, yeah. My expectations change, Drew. They win the Ole Miss game, I'm like, yes, we're going to a bowl. And watch out, people. Like, I mean, watch out, Texas. I mean, come on. The Ole Miss game, sir, if you win that, then then, yes, I agree with you.
Caller
Yeah. Yeah, I think. I think they have a real shot to do that. You know, I. I'm. I'm giving them a lot of. A lot of hope. There's Secondly, I think that the summer of Ellie may be dead. I just didn't know.
Matt Jones
Yeah, summer Ellie ended. It ended last night. It ended when Marte bunted. But it got the dirt thrown on its grave last night. You know, it got swept by the Dodgers. The Mets swept the Phillies. That couldn't have gone worse. The Mets won every game by a lot. The Reds were kind of not really in any of those games. And so, yeah, it ended. But it was fun. I enjoyed it. We got to add a hitter. We got to get Terry Francona to let Ellie steal. And he hadn't hit a home run since, like, early June. So they got it. They got, got to unleash the beast there.
Caller
Yeah, for sure. But, yeah, it was fun, fun while it lasted. But I think it got us up to football season, so I'm thankful for that.
Matt Jones
All right. Well, I appreciate it, sir. 8592802287 Let me, let me tell you about Cornbread Hemp. They're going to be our sponsors of Thursday night football starting next Thursday here at KS Bar. And their seltzers are taking over the planet. You can get them at Liquor Barn and all liquor stores. The flavors, the taste, the mellowing out, you know, I think they put those out just to see what happens and they're going to end up becoming the thing they do the most. People. People absolutely love them. Learn more@cornbread hemp.com or check your stores. Today it's Cornbread Hemp. This is the good life. We'll take a break. Right back, it's Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-774-5254. One person writes. Matt, what about Rajon Rondo?
Drew Franklin
I don't think he's there with our other guys that we've mentioned. I mean, his two years here were okay, not superstar. He became a superstar after he went to the NBA.
Matt Jones
I would agree with that. I don't, I don't think, I don't think Rondo's up there. I think you, I think he's been, he's a very good, he was a very good player at uk but like, just look at the class of dudes he was with with Ramel and Joe. Romel and Joe have a better case during their time at Kentucky than Rondo does. So, like, the reason you put Rondo in is for what happened afterwards. And that's not the reason, Drew, that I think you would put, put him In.
Caller
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
For the guys that did most their best basketball in the league, I think you have to be pretty special like Shay with the MVP or the number one picks, Carl Wall. But like, like a Booker or Rondo or guys who are stars but didn't do as much. Uk, I don't, I don't think they.
Drew Franklin
Make the cut and that argument. That's why it's a good argument for Oscar and for Willie. What they did here is up there with some of the greats of all time, the accolades and things that they did here.
Matt Jones
Yeah. One person writes, Matt, I don't, I know I'm old school, but when somebody who's only been here one year should not be in the rafters, well, you're gonna have to change your mind on that.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Or else we're never gonna have, we're never gonna have anybody up there unless you, unless you change your mind on that.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Like you said, you just had that Daniel card. Nobody's ever gonna break that record because all the good players will never be here that long to even attempt to get close to that record.
Matt Jones
Yeah. That, that's, that, that, that's my view on it. I don't, I kind of don't understand how folks can think, think otherwise.
Ryan Lemond
Well, any in this world, if anyone's good enough to be up there in a season, they're not gonna stay.
Drew Franklin
Right.
Ryan Lemond
So just, we'll just leave it as is. Don't do anything. We're never gonna have a four year player that's that spectacular. Those go to the league.
Matt Jones
Yeah. 859280, 2287. Who's up next?
Shannon Dawson
Free Bird.
Drew Franklin
Go ahead, Freebird.
Caller
Hey guys. Hey. What a great call from Miles.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. He almost made me cry a little bit. I met Miles yesterday. Just a super, super human being. We all should strive to be more like Miles.
Ryan Lemond
Good singer.
Drew Franklin
Too good.
Caller
Oh man, that kind of made my day. I got some scoop. Well, let's hear about old Jagger.
Ryan Lemond
Football scoop.
Caller
He's 6 foot 5, 325 pounds at 9% body fat. And actually I know. And he said Toledo is kind of weak on defense and we are going to just pound them.
Drew Franklin
Appreciate it. Free Bird. Thanks for the phone call. You're the, you're the one that's talked about that they should be bigger, better, stronger up front and that's where they can just dominate this game.
Ryan Lemond
And first, I don't know how accurate is 9% body fat is, but if you look at a picture of Jagger last year and this year, there has been he, it's very obvious he put in the work in the offseason.
Drew Franklin
Yes, he did the weight.
Ryan Lemond
We got to get him snapping the ball well and he's working on that one as much as he should.
Matt Jones
What have you heard about that?
Ryan Lemond
Well, someone just called in and said he had scooped The Jagger has 9% body fat and that dude, that dude.
Matt Jones
With 9% body fat might be the biggest person on the planet.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. And he heard through Jagger that, that they're not, they're not. They don't fear Toledo's defense and they plan on pounding it right at him.
Matt Jones
Well, I don't know if we need Jagger out here telling everybody that they're.
Ryan Lemond
Caller but I mean we're getting, we're getting medical records here. We're getting, we're getting the game plan and call today.
Matt Jones
Well, good. Hey, I'll take it if it ends up being the case. 859280, 2287 who's up next?
Shannon Dawson
Patricia.
Matt Jones
Patricia. Go ahead, Patricia.
Caller
Hey, happy birthday. Matt Jones.
Matt Jones
Thank you very much.
Caller
I have a question. I'm a first time caller who are I seen on Facebook that the price of the Purdue gate is $472 for nosebleed SE.
Matt Jones
I've heard that as well.
Caller
So I was wanting what I was wondering is I was going, we go every year and I was wondering I take my, I'm taking my grandson to his birthday. I was just wondering what your thought on the prices was.
Matt Jones
I think it is inevitable, Ryan, that you're going to be expensive especially for a game against the number one team.
Drew Franklin
I know it's just an exhibition game but it is Purdue. It is. There was a lot of excitement about this upcoming season, upcoming team. So price is going to be high I think all year. Drew.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, I mean that I was a little eye opening on that number but it doesn't shock me. We've never had a situation like this where you have the national championship favorite as your first opponent. Even if the game doesn't matter, you're seeing them in October. That's a pretty unique world we're in.
Matt Jones
I think the combination of it being the first game, the combination of it being the first number one team, I think the combination of all that is going to make it to where you are going to have. It's going to, it's. You're going to have very expensive tickets. I that stinks that it's that expensive for people but I think it's just.
Caller
Inevitable we're going on November 21st. I think it's a Loyola game?
Matt Jones
Yes.
Caller
And you think they won't be very. No, they'll be much.
Matt Jones
Oh, they'll be. You'll be able to get those fine. Yeah. I mean, those won't be too bad. I. I appreciate the call, but that Purdue game, you know, I mean, how many times is number one team in America come? I know it's an exhibition game, but when. When's the last time Purdue's been in Rupp Arena? I mean, all of those things, Purdue fans are going to want to come. They're not that far away. I mean, if Kentucky was playing an exhibition game at Purdue, a lot of our fans would try to go to get in there. So they're gonna. That game is gonna be. Even though it's an exhibition, would not shock me if that's one of the most expensive games of the season.
Ryan Lemond
I mean, you're seeing our team for the first time ever with no tune up. I mean, we'll get madness, but other than that we're. It's number one versus our first look at our own players. And you mentioned the Purdue fans. They're coming. There was talk in the spring that we might steal their star player. The Kentucky's a curse word there right now. I mean, ended up staying home, but there was some buzz that Kentucky was trying to get him. So there's even a little bad blood there just coming out of the last transfer portal season. So I think it's gonna be a crazy environment in there.
Drew Franklin
You know, we saw the. The UK basketball tickets really became scarce last year. You know, usually last couple years of Cal, we always had a bunch of tickets to give away. There were a lot of empty seats as last year progressed.
Matt Jones
Yeah, they were much. There were much fewer tickets to give away last year than there were at other times. And I think that's going to continue to be the case, but I get that there. But she's right. The prices for that Purdue game online are crazy now. I think they'll come down Drew, but they're still pretty crazy.
Ryan Lemond
I mean, if you're a Purdue fan, you're not in the sec. When do you get to go to game and Rupp Arena?
Matt Jones
That's true.
Ryan Lemond
And you're a couple hours.
Matt Jones
That's a really good point. If you're a Purdue basketball fan, when are you going to have the number one team in the country?
Drew Franklin
Rarely.
Ryan Lemond
We're going to RUP and you get it's Keeneland and it's your first time looking at them.
Matt Jones
Yeah, that's a really good point. I mean, you throw all that together, you could see how it would end up being. Being what it, what it is.
Ryan Lemond
Think if we had the number one team one year and we opened at a place we never go, like Cameron Indoor for an exhibition. Kentucky fans would pay God knows what to make that trip, even though it is an exhibition.
Matt Jones
And Purdue, we. They never get talked about as the best fan bases, but they have a rabid group.
Drew Franklin
They're loyal.
Matt Jones
That year that I worked for CBS and I had to cover the Big Ten, which was brutal. That year I went to like six Purdue games. And they get a loud arena that gets people into it. 859-280-2287. We'll take a break. Be right back. It's KSR.
Drew Franklin
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Shannon Dawson
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.
Matt Jones
Welcome back, Tucky Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. The text machine is 772-774-5254. Here at the KS Bar and Grill, folks eating the burgers. You like the new burger there. It seems to get good reviews with the seared and all that.
Drew Franklin
People ask me, what's the best thing we've added? I say those tater kegs and the smash burgers, those are the two best things we've added.
Matt Jones
They smashed them.
Drew Franklin
Smashed burgers, Yes.
Matt Jones
I didn't know what that meant. I always hear people talk about it, but I didn't know what it meant.
Ryan Lemond
That's how I make them at home. You really get that elbow in there and smash it?
Matt Jones
Do you elbow it? Oh, yeah.
Ryan Lemond
I got my own smasher. And you get it real flat. Throw some onions on there, Let them cook with it.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Ryan Lemond
Get that gristle. Gristle grease.
Matt Jones
You like gristle?
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. Good stuff.
Matt Jones
All right, Ryan, do you know what Burning man is?
Drew Franklin
Burning Man.
Matt Jones
Anybody here know what Burning Man.
Ryan Lemond
I was at the Sacramento, California airport this weekend. It was all Burning Man.
Matt Jones
So Burning man is like this thing where, like. I don't say hippies, although, because some of them end up being really rich people. It started as hippies. I think it was hippies. Let's go out in the desert, let's listen to music. Let's have our little hippie commune. And then like everything in the world, it kind of got corporatized and now people pull up the. These crazy tents and they'll have, you know, it can actually get really rich. And, like, there's just a lot of stuff going on. But it's in the desert. So sometimes things happen and they get there and all of a sudden a windstorm hits the desert. I don't know if you've seen the videos, but there are like. Everybody just gets pelted with. With. With sand and with dirt and they're. They've just got stuff everywhere and falling on everybody and it looks miserable. I have friends that have gone and go. I have friends that go regularly. You don't get cell service there. You have some places there's WI fi, but you kind of go off the grid. But if you watch the videos, it looks like the most miserable place on earth. Have you seen any of it? Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
And I mean, where I just was. It was like Burning Man. People all around us and they're. They're a different breed. They're. They're out there to do whatever they do out.
Matt Jones
Yeah, they do. A lot of them, I think, do drugs.
Ryan Lemond
One of their things, one of their domes. I don't think we say the name on radio, but it collapsed.
Matt Jones
But there's a. Yeah, they have. They. But they build for like a month, like three weeks or whatever. Communities. And then the wind knocked them all down and it just. Shannon, it feels like of all of us, you'd be the person most likely to do that. Does it look like something appealing to you?
Shannon Dawson
Maybe, like one time, but not every year. I love music festivals. That's even extreme for me.
Matt Jones
So is it really.
Shannon Dawson
I would do it maybe one time just to experience it and then probably never do it again.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I'd go. You'd go.
Ryan Lemond
I'll do just about anything once. Interpret that however you'd like.
Shannon Dawson
I'll do it one time, but don't ask me to go again with you next year.
Matt Jones
My problem with doing anything like that, any sort of camping, any sort of. Is that, like, I need to take a shower. And it doesn't look like there's anywhere to take a shower there. And I don't know that you can. I mean, there. Some people have.
Shannon Dawson
People don't value showers, but I do.
Matt Jones
I do. I. I need. I'm going to need to clean myself if I'm out in the dust on the lake. But these. Look at the videos. Ryan, I think you would hate it more than anyone there.
Drew Franklin
I have absolutely zero interest to participate in anything like that. I can't. These people build these things. They're hoping that a sandstorm comes on and they all get covered in sand and get dirty.
Matt Jones
They're not hoping.
Ryan Lemond
I mean, they actually would rather it not do that.
Matt Jones
I think they're very much not. Not hoping that it happens, but it does happen and then they have to deal with it. But no, I. I would not argue that they are hoping that it happens.
Drew Franklin
I'm. Hard pass.
Matt Jones
All right, let's do quick. Let's do the football picks for tonight's game. All right, Are you ready? I'm going to tell you who's playing. These are. This is opening night of college football. You tell me who's going to win. At 5:30, the first game of the new college football season. That's not week zero. Boise State gets on their Bronco and they go all the way to Tampa, to South Florida. Who you got?
Ryan Lemond
Start with an upset. South Florida defends home field tonight.
Matt Jones
What do you got? The.
Drew Franklin
The Bush Hampden's fight on Boise State. I'm picking them.
Matt Jones
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Boise State. Although this will be a good game. Ohio goes to Rutgers. Who you got?
Drew Franklin
I guess I'll go Rutgers. I have no idea about either one of them.
Matt Jones
I'm gonna tell. I'm sorry, Shannon. Boise State, South Florida. Get it.
Shannon Dawson
That was South Florida.
Matt Jones
Yeah. All right, I'm going to take. Oh, you're going. So two people with South Florida. I'm going to go Rutgers. Shannon.
Shannon Dawson
I got Rutgers as well.
Matt Jones
Rutgers. Drew. Lafayette plays Bowling Green. Drew.
Drew Franklin
Bowling Green at the high school game. Lafayette Generals and the Bowling Green Purple.
Matt Jones
Here in town of the week. I do not. I don't think this is a high school game. I think these are the colleges. Lafayette, Bowling Green. Yes.
Drew Franklin
I like the Bowling Green Purples in that game over Lafayette.
Matt Jones
I'll take Bowling Green anyway. What do you think, Shannon?
Shannon Dawson
I don't know anything about either one of these teams. Give me Bowling Green, though.
Matt Jones
East Carolina against NC State. Battle of the State of North Carolina. Shannon.
Shannon Dawson
East Carolina.
Matt Jones
I'm going to go NC State. What do you got?
Drew Franklin
What was our guy that used to call from East Carolina with our little guy report?
Matt Jones
Carolina Steve.
Drew Franklin
Oh, yeah, I'm going East Carolina in honor of Carolina Steve.
Ryan Lemond
I'm with the Wolf pack.
Matt Jones
All right. The Battle of Joe Biden, Delaware State and Delaware. Who you got flipping the coin? I don't know. I think. I don't know if he's going to make it.
Ryan Lemond
I'll go with the Blue Hens. Since we brought them up earlier this week.
Drew Franklin
I go say KSR curse. Reverse Blue Hens.
Matt Jones
I'm going to take the blue hands. Who you got?
Shannon Dawson
Is that Delaware? Is that Delaware State?
Matt Jones
I think that's Delaware. I don't know what Delaware state is.
Shannon Dawson
Give me Delaware State then.
Matt Jones
Okay. The battle of. Well, nothing. Central Arkansas and Missouri. We get to see one of our. Well, we actually don't play Missouri so we get to see an SEC team.
Drew Franklin
I pick Missouri just because they're SEC Missou Mizzou.
Shannon Dawson
I think Missouri is a 36 and a half point favorite.
Matt Jones
I'm going Missouri 36 point and a half. I feel like they'll get it. And then Miami of Ohio and Wisconsin.
Shannon Dawson
Wisconsin.
Matt Jones
Wisconsin.
Drew Franklin
Kale crowdis makes his debut at Wisconsin.
Matt Jones
Is to kill at Wisconsin. Yes, he is. He get on the field?
Drew Franklin
Yeah, he's going to get on the field. So I'm gonna pick Wisconsin.
Ryan Lemond
The old Kentucky, Hawaii, Wisconsin route in football.
Matt Jones
He went from Kentucky to Hawaii to Wisconsin.
Drew Franklin
Yep.
Matt Jones
Where their direct flights.
Caller
Yeah.
Matt Jones
I think he's got some good flower miles.
Ryan Lemond
Whatever. I already did that. I'm going with Wisconsin.
Matt Jones
All right. And then the big game tonight. Nebraska and Cincinnati. Nebraska is a 6 1/2 point favorite. Dane Dane key makes his debut as captain. Ryan Lemon is going to husk his corn to the game tonight. What do you got?
Drew Franklin
Danky. Not only starts now he's a captain. Scores. He's first. Nebraska touchdown. They win. They cover Nebraska starts the beginning of a great season.
Ryan Lemond
I didn't need that mental image, Matt. But Nebraska wins. And if I can do it, I'm.
Matt Jones
Going to bet he lives by himself. What do you think?
Ryan Lemond
I just didn't need to see it in my head.
Shannon Dawson
Still there like a teenager.
Ryan Lemond
I'm gonna bet Dane anytime touchdown tonight. I don't know the odds. I'm sure draftkings will have that. I'm gonna hop on there after the show.
Matt Jones
Shannon.
Shannon Dawson
We'll go along with that. Give me Nebraska to win big.
Matt Jones
I don't know if you all saw. They're playing this game in Kansas City.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And I don't know what happened. They painted the Cincinnati sidelines and it looks really good. They painted their colors and then it looks like the Nebraska sidelines was painted by a third grader with stencils. It looks awful. That's a bad sign. Cincinnati pulls the upset based on the ice cream paint job in the in the end zone. I'm gonna say Cincinnati makes the Huskers cry.
Ryan Lemond
Unbelievable.
Drew Franklin
I don't really know why they're playing this in Arrowhead stadium, but Nebraska expect to have a big season. It starts tonight.
Matt Jones
Cincinnati, Ohio.
Ryan Lemond
The singer song.
Matt Jones
That's exactly right. Summer valley ends but the summer of the bearcats. Who's the coach.
Ryan Lemond
You're walking to Skyline tonight, aren't you?
Matt Jones
Oh, that.
Drew Franklin
The former Kentucky coach. I mean, the former Louisville coach.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, it's Scott Stotts.
Matt Jones
Scott Stotts. Okay, I flip. I'm going Nebraska. I forgot. I cannot pick Scott Satterfield. Remember, he was the guy who told us to stop talking trash.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. He's at Cincinnati.
Matt Jones
You're out. I'm taking Nebraska. Never mind. Who's next?
Shannon Dawson
The truth.
Matt Jones
Oh, my goodness. Wait a minute. On my birthday, I get the truth? I haven't heard from the truth in two years. Truth. How are you?
Caller
How you doing? Matt Jones. I'm. I'm just sitting back in Indiana, looking up and getting ready for Saturday. The Hoosier nations ready for football season. But, man, I called you. I know it was your birthday. I thought. I just called you. And I appreciate y' all. Be listening to y' all sometimes. I like what you've been doing in politics, but you've just been on the DL about the Hoosier Nation. The Hoosier Nation.
Matt Jones
Well, because the Hoosier Nation, you know, you all still stink. Truth. Like, you. You still. You buy all these players. You still can't win. I mean, you're stuck. The team is stuck in the 80s. I love the truth, but I hope you know the Hoosiers are the opposite of the truth. They're the falsehood.
Caller
But, man, let me. Let me throw you. I got two sleeper for college football this year, and you might disagree. I like Alabama. I like.
Matt Jones
Oh, you're gonna go out on a limb. You like Alabama this year? Sleeper pick.
Caller
I got Alabama and Clemson going to the national championship.
Matt Jones
Oh, wow. Going out on a limb. Well, I appreciate that. Truth. Were you excited when Indiana made the playoff last year? You had to love that.
Caller
I did, but I was excited when they told Mike Woodson to get on the Greyhound. Gone to Sacramento. That was a great day when we. When I ran with the. Out of town.
Matt Jones
How's your health, Truth. I haven't gotten to talk to you in a while.
Caller
Been doing good, man. I'm doing a lot for the young people in Henness, Kentucky and all this stuff. And I. I always. But, man, let me throw something else on you. One day I'm gonna have. Man, you need to have a bet, a bait about the greatest general in Washington, D.C. i don't like you putting my buddy down.
Matt Jones
Who's your. Who's your. What general do you like?
Caller
It's only one. His name is Donald J. Trump.
Matt Jones
Oh, you. Wait a minute. Truth. Hang on. You're a Trump fan.
Caller
Yes, sir.
Matt Jones
Wow. Okay. Well, that goes to show we all have our weaknesses. But that's all right. Truth. I'm still glad to hear from you.
Caller
You know why I like Donald Trump?
Matt Jones
Why do you like him?
Caller
Two reasons. I like what he does for Israel and him and Bob Knight, good friends. And I hollered you next year. All right.
Matt Jones
There you go. I appreciate the call. He likes Donald Trump because of Israel and Bobby Knight. Well, you know, everybody didn't see that coming today.
Caller
Like, JCPenney got picked up by JCPenney and you got a big dog.
Matt Jones
There you go. You know, a lot of people, if you're a newer listener to this show, you may not remember the truth because the truth was many years ago. That was back, you know, 2011, 12, 13. But he would call. We was in better health then, and he would yell and scream and it was, it was quite entertaining. So it's nice to hear him still doing well.
Ryan Lemond
It's like hearing from a ghost. It's been really the highlight of the day.
Matt Jones
There are people like the truth that sometimes I sit in the think, like, I, I hope he's still doing well or still alive because, like, I don't know that I would have heard. So that really makes, that was a nice birthday gift to get to hear from the truth.
Drew Franklin
I haven't heard from him in forever. Calling to wish you a happy birthday. Didn't see it coming, though. He was a Trump fan. That kind of surprised me.
Matt Jones
That doesn't surprise me. I, that part I can see. Like, he's kind of the, he's kind of the guy that I, I can totally see that. Your dream home awaits@bluegrass home center.com choose the siding, shutters, kitchen colors and more. Go to Bluegrass Home Center's new online Home Design. 2, 3, 4 and 5 bedrooms available. Their manufactured homes are beautifully designed, custom built, as low as 48, 900 including delivery and setup. Try Bluegrass Home Center, 606-215-3300. Or their showroom is at 241 Rudy Bear Road in London, Kentucky. 606-252-153. 300 it is Bluegrass Home center today. We'll take a break. Be right back. It's Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. It is KENTUCKY Sports Radio. Final segment at the KS Bar and Grill here. Lunch. Give us a shout. 859-280-2287. This segment is sponsored by the Kentucky Skin Care Center. They are now in Glasgow. That's right, Glasgow, Kentucky. Your trusted skincare experts have a location Right there. Maybe you spent too much time on the lake this summer. You've seen a mole that looks different. Go check it out. At the Kentucky skin Care Center. Dr. Skaggs, a UK grad and one of the most respected dermatologists. There are five locations. Bowling Green, Owensboro, Franklin, Powderley, and now Glasgow. 270842, 1999 or Kentuckyskincancercenter.com Go check them out. Glasgow. It is now there for you in Glasgow.
Drew Franklin
Great people were there for the show. Good to see they're succeeding and expanding now.
Matt Jones
Shout out to our friend Josh Moore, who just stopped by, used to write for the Herald. He wrote a book about the Power Rangers called More Phenomenal how the Power Rangers Conquered the World. Did you know the Power Rangers conquered the world? Josh will tell you how he did it.
Ryan Lemond
I watched him do it a few times. Did you have a favorite Power Ranger? Green one, pink one?
Matt Jones
I was more of a blue one. Just say the color.
Ryan Lemond
You don't have to know the names.
Matt Jones
What were their names?
Ryan Lemond
There was. I think the pink one was Kimberly. Oh, you know, they're like probably the only one I remember.
Matt Jones
Kimberly.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Tony.
Ryan Lemond
There was a Tony.
Matt Jones
Okay. See, the pink one was kind of hot. I can tell.
Ryan Lemond
I was a young man growing up learning about the world. You were like them and Daryl Hannah. And splash back to back Daryl Hannah shout outs.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, the back shows. We mentioned Daryl Hannah.
Matt Jones
859280, 2287. Who's up next?
Shannon Dawson
Rick.
Matt Jones
Rick. Go.
Shannon Dawson
That's you, Rick. Okay, let's try Weston.
Matt Jones
Weston. Go ahead, Weston.
Caller
Happy birthday, Matt.
Matt Jones
Thank you.
Caller
Could y' all ever see Willie Collie Stein Jersey retired?
Matt Jones
Appreciate the call. Yes, I could. I think they. He's got a long way to wait, as we talked about earlier, but yes, I could. What do you. Some people brought up Chuck Hayes.
Drew Franklin
He's not in the conversation with these other guys. I really. I mean, I love Chuck Hayes, but he's not near conversations. Willie even and Oscar even.
Matt Jones
No. Well, no. I mean, to get to Chuck Hayes, you'd have to go through all of. All those other people first to get there.
Drew Franklin
I think I said that. Like we talked about. The dilemma is, what do you do with the 96 team and the 98 team and the 2015 team? There's got to be some representation.
Matt Jones
Well, why don't you put this. The team up there?
Drew Franklin
Why not?
Matt Jones
I mean, just say like the 20. You know, the 98 team is up there, the 96 team is up there. Because there's a difference between individual and team awards. And I don't know that you have to have a particular team in order to. To do that or to extort a particular player from a team in order.
Ryan Lemond
We already have the title banner, so that kind of covers that. Unless you want to just.
Matt Jones
Yeah, so that's why I just think this is an individual award. You know, another got name that just didn't get mentioned at all that probably should get mentioned is Jody Meeks. True. I mean, he holds the scoring. Right. Like, I don't know how I did not mention him, but he probably should be mentioned.
Drew Franklin
You kind of forget him and you know, go straight from the tubby guys to cow guys. He kind of gets in the middle.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
I'll give you one. What do you do? Is Aaron Harrison up there? I mean, his. No, no, that's. There's not going to be a tournament run like that.
Matt Jones
No, there's not. But he's not, he's not up there. But. But he.
Ryan Lemond
If they finished the job, he would probably have to be up there.
Matt Jones
But that's an interesting question. If they had finished the job. When you make all those shots, I mean, I don't know. Is Keith Smart up in Indiana?
Ryan Lemond
They should name the building after him. After him at Indiana.
Matt Jones
Yeah. That's interesting. I. I would not think that you would do that. But that is a. That is.
Ryan Lemond
I put him above Chuck, though. Even though Chuck's probably a little more beloved. That run will never be matched.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Who's next?
Shannon Dawson
Joe.
Matt Jones
Joe, Go ahead, Joe.
Caller
Hey, happy birthday, Matt Jones. I was passing the stadiums last night and saw people filing in. Didn't know what event it was. Like tailgate. Looked like 40, 50 white dudes older than us in black T shirts. So I figured, I took a guess. It turns out it was Nine Inch Nails. So. Question for the Forum. Did you know they were still touring? How many, how many songs of theirs can you name? And do you think that modern day rock stars have learned about prenups and how they work so you don't have to be touring when you're 60, 70, 80.
Matt Jones
Yeah. I appreciate the call, Shannon. That's you. That's a you question. All right.
Shannon Dawson
I knew they were still touring. They played it louder than life just a couple of years ago. But yeah, a lot of these bands, they just. I don't know if they have to do it financially or they just. That's all they know. So they continue to do it.
Matt Jones
I think some people live off the entertainment, right? Or like they want. Like some people can't. You can't give that. That juice up. And some people just that you get into music because you like to play music and you want to keep playing music, Right?
Ryan Lemond
That or you've always lived on the road. You can't just sit at home because all you've ever known is getting up and going.
Shannon Dawson
Yeah, that's it. Yeah. When you were doing that all the way back in your, you know, early.
Matt Jones
20S, what else are you gonna do?
Shannon Dawson
What else are you gonna do? That's all, you know, you're gonna plant flowers.
Matt Jones
I mean, there comes a point that, like, you, you gotta. A lot of people want to do.
Drew Franklin
What they want to do, and obviously it works. I mean, we. We went to see, you know, Def Leppard, one of my childhood groups. They were old guys out there, but I still, I still wanted to see him perform. So it's. It. Obviously, people still. There's an audience for that.
Matt Jones
Yes. 859-280-2287. So let's go over the next. The next few hours. I do think, by the way, they might announce. The NFL might announce our. Our. Our podcast here later today. If they do, do me a favor and be really excited and subscribe to it. Don't do it yet, though. Wait. Because, like, I wasn't probably supposed to say that sentence, but you know what? You guys have followed us all the way through it. So that's. That's it. Saturday, of course, the game starts at noon or 12:45. We will be on at 8:30am and then drew and I. I think schedule's still up in the air, but I think we're gonna do a version of it's the. The News Today as well. So a lot of stuff going on. It has been a hectic, hectic week with the opening of the restaurant and the ESPN and all this stuff. But thank everybody. I thank you for all your support. And just on a personal level, thank you guys for all being so nice on my birthday.
Ryan Lemond
Including you all.
Matt Jones
Including you all as well, little Matthew.
Ryan Lemond
And thank you to the truth for calling in that. That was awesome.
Matt Jones
Now. That was great. And, yeah, that was very, very nice. And then the. The very sweet birthday song. That was. That. That was. That was great as well. Thank you, folks very much. We will see you later. This has been Kentucky Sports Radio.
Date: August 28, 2025
Host: Matt Jones
Co-hosts: Drew Franklin, Ryan Lemond, Shannon Dawson
Location: KS Bar and Grill
This hour of Kentucky Sports Radio centers on UK basketball and football—specifically, a lively and detailed discussion about which UK basketball players since the Pitino era deserve their jersey in Rupp Arena’s hallowed rafters (retired numbers), plus calls from listeners about football optimism, ticket prices, and some fun personal moments for Matt Jones’s birthday. The hour brings KSR’s signature blend of sports insight, friendly ribbing, and heartfelt community.
Initiated by Matt Jones (01:47): Who, from the Pitino era onward, should next have their jersey retired in the Rupp Arena rafters—and in what order?
Matt’s Order (Deservingness, Not Chronology):
"Those four are definite...I'll hear a case for Oscar...after that, I'm probably stopping."
— Matt Jones (02:59)
Consensus Among Hosts:
Arguments on Criteria:
"Change the damn rule. Who cares? You need to get some names up there that deserve it."
— Ryan Lemond (06:44)
"That's got to be changed. Or it just becomes a joke."
— Matt Jones (08:30)
Notable Exclusions/Controversial Picks:
"He became a superstar after he went to the NBA."
— Drew Franklin (15:39)
Memorable Moment/Quote:
"Do it while people who loved and watched these guys are here to celebrate them...don’t wait till they’re 80. Put them up there and let them enjoy it."
— Matt Jones (07:02)
"We’re never gonna have a four-year player that’s that spectacular. Those go to the league."
— Ryan Lemond (17:16)
"If they win the Ole Miss game, heck yeah, my expectations change."
— Matt Jones (13:27)
"It’s going to be a crazy environment...there was some buzz Kentucky was trying to get [Purdue’s star player]."
— Ryan Lemond (21:22)
"How sweet is that?"
— Matt Jones (10:21)
"Wait a minute, Truth. Hang on. You’re a Trump fan?"
— Matt Jones (34:44)
Burning Man Discussion:
Matt tries to explain the music/art festival to the crew, who have little interest. Jokes about dirt, sun, and lack of showers.
Football Picks Round Table:
Quick-fire picks for opening night college football (27:06–29:52), full of banter.
Food Talk at KS Bar:
High praise for new menu additions, especially "smashed burgers" and tater kegs. (23:49)
"Wouldn’t it be awesome, now that he’s retiring, bring John Wall in this year? It would be a great time...get it in the rafters." (07:30)
"Change the damn rule. Who cares? You need to get some names up there that deserve it. It’s been too long." (06:44)
"Happy birthday dear Matt Jones, happy birthday to you." (10:22)
"The reason you put Rondo in is for what happened afterwards. And that’s not the reason...you would put him in."
— Matt Jones (15:48)
"It’s like hearing from a ghost... There are people like The Truth, sometimes I sit and think, I hope he’s still doing well or still alive. Makes...a nice birthday gift to hear from The Truth."
— Matt Jones (34:52)
Stays consistently conversational, humorous, and occasionally irreverent—a blend typical of Kentucky Sports Radio. The crew lovingly pokes at each other, the UK fanbase, and longtime KSR traditions (like legendary callers), keeping the show inviting and personal for fans of UK sports and KSR’s community.
Listeners walk away with a comprehensive understanding of current UK sports debates, a sense of the Q&A rhythms of the community, and plenty of entertainment and wit characteristic of KSR.