2025-09-16- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) — Hour 2 (September 16, 2025)

Podcast: KSR
Hosts: Ryan Lemond, Shannon the Dude, Jack "Babyface" Pilgrim
Location: Live from KS Bar & Grill
Date: September 16, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of KSR dives deeply into Kentucky basketball roster analysis, roles, and expectations for the upcoming season, alongside discussion of Kentucky football’s quarterback situation and evolving offensive identity. The crew welcomes calls from listeners, shares some poignant and humorous moments, and reflects on some timely headlines outside sports as well.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Kentucky Basketball: SEC Landscape & Roster Breakdown

(Starts ~04:36)

Contenders in the SEC

• Jack Pilgrim highlights Florida as a primary rival, following their national championship run, but points to Kentucky as “the team to beat.” Arkansas and Tennessee are mentioned, but both have question marks.
  • "I think Kentucky is the start of the conversation, and everybody else is kind of... well, I like this about this team, and this team does some interesting things, but I think the SEC is going to run through Kentucky this year." — Jack Pilgrim [05:24]

Denzel Aberdeen’s Transfer to Kentucky

• Surprise over Aberdeen leaving Florida after title run; Jack attributes his decision to a mix of money (NIL), role dissatisfaction, and a desire for a bigger spotlight.
  • "It wasn't all about the money, but it kind of put a sour taste in their mouth to lead them to say, all right, well then let's look. Let's explore our other options in Kentucky." — Jack Pilgrim [06:58]

Potential Starting Lineup & Rotation

• Lowe and Otega are locks at 1 and 2. Aberdeen is not guaranteed to start; Colin Chandler is pushing hard after impressive off-season improvement.
  • "Lowe is the absolute guarantee. Ortega is the absolute guarantee. And I think Aberdeen maybe will start the year there, but I think Colin Chandler has something to say about that." — Jack Pilgrim [07:28]

Chandler’s Development

• Chandler has become a major bright spot, staying healthy and earning increased praise in practice.
  • "This is a good phone call. This is a... let's talk about how, how big Colin Chandler, sophomore season can be at Kentucky." — Jack Pilgrim [08:53]

Roles of Other Key Players

• Diabate: Called the "Swiss Army knife," expected to start at the four; praised for defensive versatility and leadership.
• Andrea Yelovich: Pilgrim projects him to start at the four by March Madness, with Diabate playing multiple roles.
  • "Your starting front court will be Yellow Bitch at the four and Quaintance at the five going into March Madness..." — Jack Pilgrim [12:01]
• Trent Noah: Praised as a glue guy and high-energy bench option, earned respect for shooting and hustle.
  • "He just makes the right plays. He always has a nose for the basketball, you know, getting after it for loose balls and, you know, crashing the glass." — Jack Pilgrim [12:58]

Depth Chart & Bench

• Jasper Johnson, Cam Williams, and others discussed as depth pieces, with Jasper likely the "eighth man."
  • "I would probably put him behind Colin Chandler, that two to three spot. I think Jasper's looking at, you know, eighth man in the rotation." — Jack Pilgrim [11:00]

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2. Kentucky Football: Quarterback Switch & Tight Ends Emerge

(Starts ~20:01)

Cutter Bowley Takes Over at QB

• The hosts agree Bowley should have started sooner, noting his poise and chemistry with roommates/targets Josh Catus and Willie Rodriguez.
  • "If you're going to invest in the youth movement, why waste our time in the first two weeks and, you know, not invest in the future?" — Jack Pilgrim [20:30]
  • "I feel like this is his job to lose." — Shannon the Dude [21:26]

Tight Ends’ Surging Role

• New tight ends coach Derek Shea gets extensive credit for building bonds and transforming the group. Catus is on pace to shatter receiving records for Kentucky TEs.
  • "He said that the tight cat has said the tight ends want to play for him. There was this like, you know, this is a guy that we, that we root for, that we're playing for." — Jack Pilgrim [22:14]
  • "Josh Cattis is on pace to shatter that with 448 yards. And Willie Rodriguez is on pace for 272." — Jack Pilgrim [23:18]

Wide Receiver Struggles and Play Design

• Discussion centers on issues with receivers getting separation, and the need to create opportunities especially for Kendrick Law and Jamari Macklin.
  • "You can't tell me that Kendrick Law can't get open. I mean, he's one of the fastest dudes in the country... so scheme him open, figure find a way to get the ball in his hands and open space." — Jack Pilgrim [25:30]

Key Game Preview: South Carolina

• The panel frames next week’s South Carolina road game as “the biggest game of the Mark Stoops era,” critical for team and fan momentum.
  • "I think this is the biggest game of the Mark Stoops there. I really do. I think just what it means for fan morale..." — Jack Pilgrim [35:22]
• Scenario hypothesized where Stoops could lose the fanbase if he goes away from Bowley as starter.

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3. UK Athletics Hall of Fame Ceremony Highlights

(Starts ~29:14)

• Recap of Carl Anthony Towns’ emotional return and induction, including message about unselfishness, team unity, and paying tribute to late mother with Ellen Calipari stepping in support.
  • "There was just a level of appreciation, you know, with him being back in Lexington... Carl had that message saying that, hey, it's not me getting inducted into the hall of Fame. It's... everybody kind of came together for one common cause." — Jack Pilgrim [29:14]
• Other inductees include Josh Allen (football), Kayla Epps (women's basketball); celebrated for their impact and stories of growth and contribution to UK culture.

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4. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Money as Motivation in College Sports

  • "Money can be really cool for some people, and I think it was really cool for Denzel Aberdeen." — Jack Pilgrim [06:14]

• Diabate’s Role

  • "He is the Swiss army knife that you just say, hey, we need a stop here. Go get a stop." — Jack Pilgrim [11:33]

• Trent Noah’s Value

  • "All of the little things that he does, it was just, oh, we need a tough rebound right now. And Trent always was kind of the guy that got it." — Jack Pilgrim [14:01]

• Culture Shift in UK Football’s Offense

  • "For years that's been our gripe of why are we not incorporating the tight end position into the passing game... it's kind of refreshing to see." — Shannon the Dude [23:39]

• Bulls Don't Care (Metaphor from Tight End Coach)

  • "Every time they talk there's a picture up of a, of a bull rider who... says the bull don't care... next time you go out there bull's not going to care that you broke the record yesterday. Focus on what's ahead and doing it again. So they have that next, next week mentality." — Jack Pilgrim [26:57]

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5. Fun & Off-topic Segments

Robert Redford’s Passing

(Starts ~18:32)

• News of Redford’s passing at 89 leads to nostalgia and generational confusion; Jack jokes his favorites are Avengers-era roles, Shannon admits he’d never heard the name.
  • "I gotta be honest with you, I didn't know that was even a name until you said it. So rest in peace, sir." — Shannon the Dude [19:12]

Listener Calls

• Callers chime in to praise the podcast, reminisce about Redford (“He is so sexy!” — Marcia [33:15]), and discuss football topics, including Nick from the Sources Say podcast fandom [38:12].

Hometown Honors

• Brief story about hometown ceremonies honoring UK player Trent Noah’s grandfather, with jokes about possible "Mountain Mamba" landmarks in the future. [39:34]

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6. Betting Segment & Odds Updates

(Starts ~46:46)

• NCAAB: Kentucky is +1800 to win the title, +475 to reach Final Four. Purdue, Houston, Duke, and UConn as the favorites.

  • "If you think Kentucky has a Final Four team, anything can happen. Once you get to the final four at plus 1800, that might be a good bet to jump on..." — Ryan Lemond [46:46]

• MLB: Cincinnati Reds are +550 to make the playoffs, -800 not to; panel jokes about betting against the Reds this week.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 04:36 — Basketball: SEC contenders, Kentucky’s status, rivals’ profiles
• 06:07 — Denzel Aberdeen’s transfer, NIL and role discussion
• 07:28 — Projected starting lineup, Chandler’s push
• 10:29 — Bench depth and roles
• 11:33 — Diabate and Yelovich role debate
• 12:40 — Trent Noah’s development and rotation spot
• 20:01 — Football: Bowley as QB, tight ends, receiver challenges
• 22:40 — Tight end historical stats and Catus’s rise
• 29:14 — UK Hall of Fame ceremony, Carl Anthony Towns
• 35:22 — South Carolina football preview; critical for Stoops era
• 46:46 — DraftKings segment, basketball and baseball odds

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Notable Quotes

"I think Kentucky is the start of the conversation, and everybody else is kind of... well, I like this about this team, and this team does some interesting things, but I think the SEC is going to run through Kentucky this year." — Jack Pilgrim [05:24]

"He is the Swiss army knife that you just say, hey, we need a stop here. Go get a stop." — Jack Pilgrim [11:33]

"I feel like this is the biggest game of the Mark Stoops era. I really do." — Jack Pilgrim [35:22]

"For years that's been our gripe of why are we not incorporating the tight end position into the passing game... it's kind of refreshing to see." — Shannon the Dude [23:39]

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Tone and Additional Details

• The KSR crew maintains their trademark laid-back, humorous, and slightly irreverent Kentucky flavor, mixing in light-hearted banter, sharp sports analysis, and genuine appreciation for UK athletes past and present.
• The basketball talk is detailed and rooted in insider observations; football discussion is both practical and emotionally invested in the future of the program.
• Listener interaction, pop culture asides, and subtle jabs at each other’s (and callers’) age and knowledge provide levity and community engagement.

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This episode provides a robust update for passionate UK fans or casual listeners alike, spotlighting Kentucky’s evolving basketball roster, the stakes of upcoming football contests, and the enduring culture of UK athletics.

Transcript

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[Ryan Lemond]

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[Shannon the Dude]

Oh, you're not gonna do the live read? I've got to do the live read.

[Ryan Lemond]

We all think you're supposed to do the live read.

[Shannon the Dude]

Well, see now I've already closed out the library because I didn't think we were gonna do it.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, you forgot to tell us last segment so.

[Shannon the Dude]

So what, you're blaming me for it?

[Ryan Lemond]

Of course.

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[Ryan Lemond]

Thank you Shannon T. Dude, Ryan Lemon, Jack Pilgrim here live at KS Bar and Grill. Steven Peaks even sitting over here. Got you guys getting ready for your big podcast tonight. Sources A podcast with Jeff Goodman Rob Doster One question I wanted to ask the guys, but we really didn't. Didn't have enough time. Who else in the SEC do they expect? So I'll ask you, who do you expect in the. Else in the SEC to compete with Kentucky for the title this year?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Yeah, I think Florida, obviously, with the, you know, they're coming off a national championship run, so obviously, you know, they. They. They own the crown for. For right now, and they. They rebuilt in a really strong way. A lot of kind of question marks. Boogie FL kind of leading the charge, replacing Walter Clayton Jr. Who was a once in a lifetime kind of, you know, March Madness run. Very, you know, up there with the Kimba Walkers. So, like, they're replacing quite a bit of talent, but they definitely belong in the conversation. Arkansas definitely belongs in the conversation. I think they. They built that roster pretty well, and it's, you know, a very typical John Caliperi roster. So a lot of, you know, really, you know, Tennessee, they'll be top 10 team, but I have some questions about them. So a lot of, you know, who is going to compete with Kentucky? I think Kentucky is the start of the conversation, and everybody else is kind of. Well, I like this about this team, and this team does some interesting things, but I think. I think the SEC is going to run through. Through Kentucky this year.

[Ryan Lemond]

So the whole makeup of the roster, the one thing that made me scratch my head a little bit. How did they get Denzel Aberdeen to leave a national championship knowing he was going to be a big part of what Florida corner probably do this season? How did they get him and convince him to come to Kentucky where maybe he's gonna have to compete for a.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Spot because money's awesome. Ryan, I don't know. I don't know if you. If you.

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't make any money, so I'm.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Not aware, man, money can be really cool for some people, and I think it was really cool for Denzel Aberdeen. No, and I think a part of it is when you are the six man of a national championship roster and you compete and play a specific role and you have the two guys, three guys ahead of you that, you know, deserve that role before you, you kind of expect to step in and kind of take that role in the money that probably comes with it. So when you're at the negotiating table and you go, all right, my time to shine, right? And Todd golden goes, you know, how about this much in the same role that you had the year before? And it's like, well, that's not necessarily what I was kind of hoping. So. Yeah, I, I think that was definitely. It was a. Hey, if we're not seeing eye to eye on roll and money, especially the, The. The championship boost that comes with, you know, hey, I have a ring on my finger. Pay me accordingly. I think that just kind of rubbed them the wrong way. It wasn't all about the money, but it kind of put a sour taste in their mouth to lead them to say, all right, well then let's look. Let's explore our other options in Kentucky. Obviously an unbelievable option for the Aberdeen family.

[Ryan Lemond]

So do you think. Do you foresee Lowe, Ortega and Aberdeen Starting at the 1, 2, and 3 most of the season? Is that. Are they, Are they locked in?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

I would not say Aberdeen is locked in. I would say Lowe is the absolute guarantee. Ortega is the absolute guarantee. And I think Aberdeen maybe will start the year there, but I think Colin Chandler has something to say about that. Of the two, I think there they can get pretty creative at that spot. You know, knowing that Denzel, Aberdeen is your. Is your only backup point guard option before disaster strikes. The way we had Amare Williams bringing the ball up the floor and things like that last year, he is your kind of go to guy, so you kind of got to save them a little bit and kind of keep those legs fresh and stagger their minutes the way they kind of hoped Lamont and Kirk Crease would stagger their minutes before Kerr went. Went down. I could, I could see a similar scenario where he. He's off the bench, but he plays starter level minutes.

[Ryan Lemond]

You mentioned Colin Chandler. Out of the info that's kind of leaked out from these early practices, he seems to be getting a lot of the praise. A lot of people talking about him. You expect a big jump from him.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

So fun backstory of the Colin Chandler experience, right? When Travis announced that he was hitting the Portal, we were waiting on Trent Noah. Trent Noah announced he's coming back. I get a phone call from somebody very close to Colin Chandler's circle. And I was kind of thinking, well, now is the time that I would be getting a phone call to say, hey, I'm going to the Portal. Can you, can you put that out there? And so I got the phone call and I was like, oh, man, I was really getting excited for Colin Chandler. Pick up the phone.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

What's going on? No, just checking in, seeing how things are going. So you're not going to. The Portal's not going you. No. Why. Why would we go into the Portal? Colin. Colin is making a push for the starting job next year. We're not going anywhere. And it was like, oh, all right, this is a good phone call. This is a. Let's, let's, let's talk about how, how big Colin Chandler, sophomore season can be at Kentucky. So I thought that was just a very cool, you know, they, they came in hungry. Being healthy was a big part of it last year. You know, had the hamstring thing and went down and missed so much time in the summer and he was just coming off the two years away from the sport that it just, it was, that was just a big, big trial, you know. You know, seeing what happens in year one now he has been healthy, was out for just a little bit of time, but mostly healthy. And you know, we can kind of see, you know, the end of, the end of his first year playing as well as he did in March Madness, translating into year two, picking up right where we left off.

[Ryan Lemond]

So where will Colin Chandler's minutes come from? Back up the point at low or back up Otega at the two? Where will you see him contributing the most on the floor?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

I think it'll be the two spot. Ortega slide into the three and, and him kind of fitting in that two spot. And I'm not guaranteeing, guaranteeing he's starting. I think. You know what's funny is this time last year was actually where Ortega became Ortega. You true, you heard, you know, rumblings that Ortega was just solid at this stage that last summer transitioning into the fall and then it was September where Otega, they're like, well, he might be our best player. So we're still kind of waiting and seeing to see, to see who emerges as at that, that go to two spot. But I think he'll do some, you know, backup, backup point guard duties, but definitely manning the main, main two spots.

[Ryan Lemond]

So who's the backup point guard?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Aberdeen.

[Ryan Lemond]

Wow.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Yeah, but, but Aberdeen's playing alongside Colin Chandler and those two kind of feeding off of each other with minutes as well. So it's going to be. We have 12 moving parts to work with here, so it's gonna, you're gonna see. Well, Aberdeen plays, you know, someone, some two Otega slides up to the two. It's, it's gonna be some mixing and matching to, to make all of these.

[Ryan Lemond]

Part Jasper Johnson fit in in the equation.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

We'll see how these next couple of weeks go before the season starts. But he, I would, I would probably put him behind Colin Chandler that, that two to three spot. I think, I think Jasper's looking at, you know, eighth man in the rotation.

[Ryan Lemond]

Right Now, I think it was Jeff Goodman who mentioned the abate. He was kind of excited about him. Is he. Because you hear like, he's good leader. He's. He's kind of taken over the leadership role off the court. Like Jay and Lo. Jalen Lowe may be the leader on the court, but Diabate may be the leader off the court. How do you see his role this year then?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Well, this summer he was, you know, garden ones, garden twos, sliding down, garden fives. He's. He is the. The Swiss army knife that you just say, hey, we need a stop here. Go get a stop.

[Ryan Lemond]

Go get it.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

So I think he'll start at the four. Again. I have re. I'm really. I'm probably higher on Andrea Yelovich than most. I think Yellow Bitch will end up starting going into March Madness at the four. I do. I think it'll be the first.

[Ryan Lemond]

Thank you for saying that. I think because I said that on this show and I got chastised by some of my co workers, I think.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

You'Re starting front court will be Yellow Bitch at the four and Quaintance at the five going into March Madness. Up to that point, you're going to see a lot of Modi abate at the four. But again, he's. He is the Energizer Bunny. He is the, hey, whatever we, whatever we need, he can fill. Fill that role. So he. He's going to wear a lot of different hats. So I wouldn't even necessarily just say he's your go to 4 guy. I think there are going to be times that he's playing up at the 3, may slide down and play some small ball, you know, five in spot minutes. Definitely not a consistent. But he's going to. He's going to have a big role for this year, but just don't, you know, put him into one. One little bucket.

[Ryan Lemond]

So, you know, everybody in the 13th region. Want me to ask you then, so what is Trent Noah's role? You know, because he's. The word is he's really improved by leaps and bounds. When they played the TBT team, the TBT guys were talking about him more than anybody. As far as what he did in that scrimmage game, I.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

He is. He's a guy that. I heard just insane things about his. His shooting ability. And, you know, I think if you're thinking who is going to be the go to catch and shoot shoot guy on the team, Cam Williams was brought in to be that guy. But I think Trent Noah has just it so much over the summer to really just kind of like, well, we're going to have to play you. Because he just makes the right plays. He always has a nose for the basketball, you know, getting. Getting after it for loose balls and, you know, crashing the glass. He just does a lot of the. The little things that. I think we're at a point where it's like, you know, any other year, Trent probably is out of the rotation. But because of how hard he's worked and the production he's found over the. Over the course of the summer, again, building off of a strong freshman year when nobody really expected him to have the role that he ended up having. I think. I think he's going to. He's gonna be in that rotation. I don't know how high in the rotation, but he's. He's gonna be in there.

[Ryan Lemond]

He earned his minutes last year when we. Every time he got on the floor, it seemed to provide a spark. He'd be getting a loose ball or knocking a ball away or getting a rebound or something. He brings that element that I think coming off the bench can give you a good weapon.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Yeah. I think, you know, Trent, like I said, all of the little things that he does, it was just, oh, we need a tough rebound right now. And Trent always was kind of the guy that got it. We need a big three right now down and not, you know, Knoxville, just pick your poison.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Always seem to step up in those big moments.

[Ryan Lemond]

All right, our phone lines will be open 859-280-2287. That's 85928. Okay. That's the Clark's Pumping Shop phone number. If you got a question for Jack Pilgrim. Talking a lot of basketball today. We will touch on a little football coming up. We come back. The kickoff time was set for the South Carolina game, 7:45. So it's a night game down there at Williams Bryce Stadium. Crazy atmosphere. Night game will make it even crazier down there. That's coming up in two weeks. So we'll take our break, come back, go back to the phone lines. Ryan Shannon and Jack Pilgrim. When we come back on Kentucky Sports Radio.

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[Shannon the Dude]

All right, looking forward to it. I also heard that we bring in Richie on ksr. He told me that this morning.

[Ryan Lemond]

He is. I believe it's the 30th. I think September 30th is the day that Richie and Buck are going to co host the show.

[Shannon the Dude]

Richie and I didn't mean to undercut you by having Richie on the pre show this morning. I kind of felt bad about it. Not really, but I had him on there. I didn't know he was going to be on the 30th on KSR. Looking forward to that.

[Ryan Lemond]

One of the big national headlines this morning was that Robert Redford passed away 89 years old. Of course, my favorite Robert Redford movies, the Natural. I think it's one of the best movies ever made. You guys have a Robert Redford favorite? What? Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, I think was his movie.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Didn't we talk about how old I was to start the show?

[Ryan Lemond]

Ryan, I believe you're like 14 years old.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

No, I. I can't say that I have a favorite. I'm looking them up right now. Captain America, the Winter Soldier. That was a good one.

[Ryan Lemond]

Didn't see that one.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

And that's Charlotte's web in 06. I think he nailed that role. Avengers End game. I think he was awesome in that one. So, yeah, we're going Avengers Endgame.

[Ryan Lemond]

Shannon, do you have one?

[Shannon the Dude]

I gotta be honest with you, I didn't know that was even a name until you said it. So rest in peace, sir.

[Ryan Lemond]

No disrespect, but you don't know who Robert Redford is.

[Shannon the Dude]

I don't.

[Ryan Lemond]

Are you kidding me?

[Shannon the Dude]

How old is he?

[Ryan Lemond]

He was 89. But you saw, you saw the Natural probably, didn't you? Yeah, Roy Hobbs. He was Roy Hobbs, the Natural.

[Shannon the Dude]

Okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

Hit the home run and of course then all the fireworks went off when he hit the light stand.

[Shannon the Dude]

What year did that come out?

[Ryan Lemond]

It was like maybe in the late 80s, early 90s, somewhere in there.

[Shannon the Dude]

Okay, that was. Well, Jack wasn't born and I was probably five.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Actually, I did lie. A River Runs Through It. I watched that movie often with my dad. That was one of our favorite.

[Ryan Lemond]

There we go.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Father son movies as a kid. So River Runs through it is my.

[Ryan Lemond]

Favorite the Great Gatsby I think was a Robert Redford movie. Does that ring a bell with DiCaprio? No.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah, the one that came out in 1940.

[Ryan Lemond]

Jack 859-280-2287. That's our Clark's Pumping Shop phone number if you want to call and get on board. We've been talking a lot of UK basketball, but I do want to switch to football for just a min. Last night Mark Stoops set out his coaches show. So he had Bush Hamden on. Josh Cattis was on. They talked a lot about the, the offense kind of improving with Cutter Bolley. Jack, what you, what was your take on the Cutter Bowley era getting underway last Saturday over at Kroger Field?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Two weeks too late. I feel like if you're going to invest in the youth movement, why, why waste our time in the first two weeks and, you know, not invest in the future? I think when you bring in a guy like Zach Calzada, you expect him to have the poise and the leadership qualities of a seventh year veteran and for him to kind of be, have the same nerves and have the, you know, wishy washiness that you would expect of a redshirt freshman, the way Cutter, you know, should be playing at his age. And for Cutter to have that poise again, Eastern Michigan is Eastern Michigan, but to have that poise and go in and know play as well as he did, I just think it was a missed opportunity. I think now is absolutely the time to move forward with Cutter. I think he's the guy.

[Ryan Lemond]

Shannon then the one thing did come up, they were talking about his favorite targets being Josh Catus and Willie Rodriguez. There had just happened be Cutter's roommates. So I think the secret is if you're your roommate, you're going to get fed. You're going to.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah, it's like, you know, your, your buddy. You can't just leave them hanging out to drive. So you gotta, you gotta target them. But I think Cutter is the guy moving forward. I feel like this is his job to lose. We'll see what happens against South Carolina. I feel like that's a game they can get in.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Listening to the guys last night on that the, the call in show, Catus was talking and Tom Leach asked just, you know, hey what, what is it about the tight ends finally getting the ball? You. It feels like the entire Vince Mero era, we spent all of our time going why are we not targeting the tight ends? Why are they not passing them the ball? And I kind of thought Cattus's answer was a little. I don't want to say it was a shot at Vince, but it was definitely went above and beyond to praise the, the new guy, Derek Shea leading the charge, saying that, you know, he isn't a person who said that in our private huddles of just the tight ends that he'll like, start crying. The, the, the new tight ends coach will start crying and just being like, guys, I just, I'm so grateful to be here. I'm so invested. I'm so emotional for you guys, for us to get this opportunity together. And he said that the tight cat has said the tight ends want to play for him. There was this like, you know, this is a guy that we, that we root for, that we're playing for. So it wasn't a shot at Vince, but it was definitely, hey, we have something to play for with this new guy. And I thought that was kind of interesting.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's definitely a shift in focus when your leading receivers are your tight ends. And your two passing touchdowns that cut her through. One to Willie Rodriguez, one to Josh Kaz, and he threw a third one to the Boyer kid. Another tight end that got called back. I don't know if I ever would have seen the day where Kentucky quarterback would throw three touchdown passes to three different tight ends. It just wouldn't happen.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Name. What do you think the career high is for any tight end or tight end in terms of receiving yards? Under Mark Stoops?

[Ryan Lemond]

Under Mark Stoops. Wow. It can't be much. Who is it? Is C.J. conrad.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

How. What do you think his, his season high for receiving yards was?

[Ryan Lemond]

Receiving yards?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

I'll say 250, 318 yards on 30 catches. Josh Cattis is on pace to shatter that with 448 yards. And Willie Rod.

[Caller]

Really?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Rodriguez is on pace for 272.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, Shannon, Josh Cattus made some great catches last weekend, like some aerobatic catches. It's going to get him in the NFL.

[Shannon the Dude]

I'm just glad that they're targeting the tight ends. I mean, for years that's been our gripe of why are we not incorporating the, the tight end position into the passing game. And we haven't really had that, so it's kind of refreshing to see. But, you know, it'd be nice to throw to our receivers as well. Well, that we've had some issues with them, I think, just getting open. I think that's been a big problem this year.

[Ryan Lemond]

You're right, Shannon, that's the question. Are our Tight end just so, so good or our receivers maybe not there yet? What's the answer to the question? You can say it.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

I don't know, man. I, I think, I think it's a combination of both. I think it's the. Hey, we finally realize that our tight ends can be pretty productive and, and if you, you know, build it, they will come, if you will, with the, with the tight ends. And, and I just, I'm not seeing it yet with the receivers. We gotta, we gotta figure that out. If there is any figuring out to do.

[Ryan Lemond]

Shannon, what, what's your take on it?

[Shannon the Dude]

On what? The receivers just not being like, productive or. Yeah, yeah, I, I think, I mean we had that guy that called in on the pre show last week who you said, you know, was a football coach and really knows the game inside and out. He said it was the receivers just not being able to get open for whatever reason. I'm not sure why that is, but I think that's the big problem. I mean, it's hard to target somebody when they're not open and the receivers have to do their part. I don't think they're doing that.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think we got to kind of maybe a taste what was coming when in the first game against Toledo, I think was Van Hyles who said, man, those, the passing game was not the fault of Calzada. Our receivers were not getting open against Toledo. Defensive back, now he did mention a couple of those guys are going to be in the NFL. But if you can't get open against Toledo, how do you expect to get.

[Shannon the Dude]

Open against Eastern Michigan? I mean, that's true. That right there should tell you a lot like that they should have had a lot of targets, a lot of receiving yards from our receivers and they just, they just were, for whatever reason, weren't, weren't there, weren't open.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

But you can't tell me, you can't tell me that Kendrick Law can't get open. I mean, he's, he's one of the fastest dudes in the country. You know, that's, that, that's his calling card. So scheme him open, figure find a way to get the ball in his hands and open space to, to, to create those yards. And I think that's where the. Why, what is the missing very. I do think that separation is a serious issue with, with the majority of the receivers. But you can't tell me that we can't create, you know, create some of these guys some opportunities.

[Ryan Lemond]

I said this yesterday during the first half. I was like, where in the heck is Jamari Macklin? You know he's supposed to be our number one guy. He did catch one ball in the second half. But Kendrick Law, he's, he's, he's become the number one target on receiver. But I'm like, I'm like you maybe just a jet sweep something. Just get the ball in his hands and just let him try to make a play.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

And he came on so late last year and you kind of thought well he's the guy that we could build around. It was such a big deal when Macklin came back and it just really have not seen any type of jump whatsoever with him. So somebody has to emerge in that room and I just, I really don't know who it is.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well the other graphic that came out was like the, the targets to the tight end is like double what it's been any other year in the Mark Stoops era. That's not going to change when you got Willie Rodriguez and Josh Cattus and even the boy, your kid out there that can make a play for you. Cutter obviously is going to be feel comfortable throwing the ball to those guys. That's not going to change. He's going to continue to target the tight ends.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Did you know that a bull rider is to give credit for the tight ends in their production right now? A bull rider.

[Ryan Lemond]

What's the story?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

So Cat has told that story last night on the Collins show so that they have a. They have a thing every time they talk there's a picture up of a, of a bull rider who had a sentence that says the bull don't care that there's a famous bull rider in the past that, that he could ride eight seconds. He can break all the records. Professional bull rider. But next time you go out there bull's not going to care that you broke the record yesterday. Focus on what's ahead and doing it doing again. So they have that next next week mentality.

[Ryan Lemond]

Bulls don't care.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Bulls don't care.

[Ryan Lemond]

There you go. The tight end room leading the way. So who would have thought that come in the season. Alright, we'll take our break. Phone lines will be open. 859-280-2287. That's 859280 cats. That's the Clark's puppet shop phone number. Our a vision glass text machine has been rolling today. Most people talking about Jeff Goodman's potty mouth. He had to start the show but.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

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[Ryan Lemond]

You did warn me right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

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[Ryan Lemond]

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[Shannon the Dude]

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[Ryan Lemond]

All right, welcome back Kentucky Sports Radio. Ryan Lemon. Shannon the Dude Jack Babyface Pilgrim. Who's this segment sponsored by Shannon.

[Shannon the Dude]

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[Ryan Lemond]

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[Ryan Lemond]

Phone lines have been a little slow today. They're always, we talk sports, Shannon. Phone lines get a little slow.

[Shannon the Dude]

So when we say, what's your favorite color? The lines just light up.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Give us a state that ends in a vowel, people. Light up the phone lines.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

So 859-280-2287. That's a Clark's Puppy Shop phone number if you want to call and get on board. I do want to go back to something else. Jack, you were involved with the UK Athletics hall of Fame. Had their induction ceremony Friday night. You were there. Got to talk to Carl Anthony Towns. How did that go?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

It was awesome. I think there was just a level of appreciation, you know, with him being back in Lexington and understanding that, yes, the year didn't end the way we wanted it, too, with the Wisconsin game, but that team accomplished so much together, and you just kind of built a culture of unselfishness. And, hey, I'm sacrificing my own personal accolades and stats for the greater good of the team to help win games. And I think Carl had that message saying that, hey, it's not me getting inducted into the hall of Fame. It's, you know, and it's not even just Willie, Collie Stein and Alex Poytheris. It's. It's the. The Todd Lanters and the Brian Longs and the Sam Malone's that everybody kind of came together for one common cause and got us to a 38no start that will never be touched ever again in the history of college basketball. So that was really cool. Said that it's Nintendo 64 was getting inducted as well because that was obviously a big part of their journey together. Kind of playing, playing super Smash brothers in the dorm together and all that. So very, very cool to see him back in Lexington and you know, five time NBA all star. You don't get to talk to those, those guys very often. So it's very cool.

[Ryan Lemond]

I saw the end of his induction speech too. He referenced like his mom. I thought that was kind of really touching.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

And let's just call a spade a spade here and say that Ellen Caliperi being there for that in stepping in, in that motherly role for, for him with his mom passing was very cool. And showing up with Brad Cow wasn't there in attendance but they met up at Jeff Rubies afterward and kind of met and you know, celebrated their time together. Yes, it's awkward. It's weird for all of us. It's you know, weird it is for Jeff Goodman to be here. Imagine Cal showing up right now in the middle of all this to celebrate an all time Kentucky Wildcat and Carl Anthony Town. So for Ellen and Brad specifically to acknowledge that kind of take face that head on, be there for Carl knowing how awkward it was for everybody else in the room. But for for one thing and that's Carl Anthony Towns. That's a very, very cool gesture for them and they deserve a lot of credit for that.

[Ryan Lemond]

Did you talk to any other the inductees or just Carl?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

We talked to all of them and including Josh Hines Allen who you know that that was very cool and just kind of the face of the, the recruit and develop kind of motto the the blue collar. Hey, let's bring our lunch pail to work kind of mentality that that Kentucky football had. Coming in as a two star and finishing as a Hall of Famer. I mean that's one of the coolest, you know, stories you can come up with. So now he's you know about to break the all time sack record for the Jacksonville. So very, very cool for those two. But all of them, I mean Kayla Epps talking about how you know, I came in as Anthony Epps daughter and I left is, is you know, Anthony Epps is Michaela dad. So just very, very cool for her to get her her props as well as kind of the, the early cobblestone of what you, you see with women's basketball right now with her under Kenny Brooks.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's always a great thing that Kentucky does bring different athletes from different sports, get them all together. But that the event that you know John they Worked it out where the Jaguars were playing up with the Bengals so Josh Allen could be there. Carl made it. They didn't go to the football game on Saturday, but they were both there for the induction ceremony. Cal, like you said, was in town, stayed away from the induction ceremony. We tipped our hat to him. That's probably the best move.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Yeah, you don't want to be the story. I mean, if he had walked in. And again, the reason why I was still there was because I heard the grapevine that Cal was going to be there. And it was like, well, I'm not going to not around and see if Cal's going to walk in and see what that moment's like. But to his credit, he deserves a lot of credit for making the story about him and. But still have. Making it very respectful with Ellen and Brad there. I thought that was a nice touch.

[Ryan Lemond]

859-280-2287. That's the Clark's Puppy Shop phone number. And Shannon said we got a phone call. So who we got? Shannon.

[Shannon the Dude]

Marcia.

[Ryan Lemond]

Marcia. Go ahead, Marcia.

[Caller]

Hello there. I'm enjoying the show. Y' all are doing a great job.

[Ryan Lemond]

Thank you, Marcia.

[Caller]

And I, I, you know, you said we don't comment on sports stuff, but that's because we consider you the experts.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, yeah.

[Caller]

I am going to comment on Robert Redford.

[Ryan Lemond]

Can you believe Shannon didn't even know who he was?

[Caller]

Three Days of the Condor is a great movie. Great movie. And I would almost swear that he re. He directed Ordinary People, which is a great movie with Donald Sutherland, I believe. But anyway, and then the way we were. He is so sexy and so good looking and he was very talented. Very, very talented. Very talented. Slow down to watch a couple of his movies.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Appreciate you. How about that? We talk. We talk football and basketball for an hour and a half. No calls. We mentioned Robert Redford dying. Boom. Immediately get Marsha calling in because he's sexy, apparently. Got another call. What's your prediction? Football, Basketball or something off the wall?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

For sure. Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

All right. Who is it? Shannon.

[Shannon the Dude]

Gork.

[Ryan Lemond]

Gork. Go ahead, Gork.

[Caller]

Okay. Idaho is the state that ends Al. Of course. Robert Redford. How do these boys not know the natural sting. The sting and Butch Cassidy and send that kid. But more importantly, the. I think the Cutter experience again needs to continue on even if dude gets healthy in the off week. I mean, he's. He showed. Like you said, he showed enough in the. Again, Eastern Michigan, but he showed enough poise and accuracy and whatnot that he needs to. He needs to Keep going. And this year we've got somebody to block the defensive ends for South Carolina, so maybe it'll be enough to put them down again. Start. Start that role again.

[Ryan Lemond]

All right. Appreciate it, Gork. Appreciate the phone call. Yeah, the offensive line is much, much better right now because South Carolina came in last year and embarrassed us. Second game season, they just embarrassed Kentucky, could not contain their defensive front. So I think caller's right. Gork's right. That will make a difference this go around.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

I think this is the biggest game of the Mark Stoops there. I really do.

[Ryan Lemond]

Really.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

I think just what it means.

[Ryan Lemond]

Wow.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

For fan morale. Like, it does kind of have a. Think of. Think of what happens if they go down to Columbia and knock the Gamecock's teeth in. Like, what. What happens to the level of like, oh, well, I. I mean, I've been out. I've. I've had one foot out the door, but. All right, well, if we're gonna go and beat South Carolina, then, well, why can't we go beat, you know, Vandy in Florida? And then you start kind of dreaming big again with. With going to the bowl, and then we start saying, well, okay, well, there are seven winnable games on the score. Why can't we kind of get back to what we were expecting year in, year out? So it's in. In. On the flip side, if you go in and get your teeth knocked in, then I think the buy the. The fans will completely jump off the hype train and say, all right, yeah, if we were. If South Carolina's that far ahead of us in the pecking order, the SEC now, where we're not even competitive on their home environment, we just, you know, why are we even trying it? Like, I feel like it's just. It could swing one way or the other and about as extreme directions you could possibly.

[Shannon the Dude]

Or, Ryan, could you imagine this scenario? Let's say we're coming off the bye week, Calzada's healthy, Stoops decides to start Calzada, and we lose the game to South Carolina. Will fans just lose their mind if that. I mean, that's a. I don't want to be negative. I've been the most. I feel, like, optimistic about the football team all season. But that is also a scenario that could play out. And if that happens, like Jack said that that could be the biggest game in the Stoops era if that scenario were to play out.

[Ryan Lemond]

Stoops can't do that. I mean, he can't do it. You got to run with Cutter I think right now you can't take the job away from him. Now, the other scenario, Shannon, or did.

[Shannon the Dude]

He ever really have the job? Well, you say take the job. I don't know.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Like, I think.

[Shannon the Dude]

I think it's Cutter's job to lose.

[Ryan Lemond]

I do, too.

[Shannon the Dude]

That's my opinion. But I'm not the coach of the team, so I, I think it's going to be really interesting to see what Stoops decides to do as far as the starting quarterback for South Carolina.

[Ryan Lemond]

And I think you ride or die with Cutter regardless how he plays at South Carolina and go with him. What's your thoughts about it?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Well, you bring in Zach to be the safety net.

[Ryan Lemond]

You.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

You bring him in because again, this is a make or break year for Mark Stoops. And the fan buy in long term, if you can say that. Stoops said, hey, we just can't have the wheels fall off this season. We gotta. Even if it's not get to a bowl game, we gotta win five games. We just can't win two games. And I think he brought in Calzada to be the safety net. Hey, we know he's not gonna mess up. We know he's gonna. He might not go win your games, but he ain't gonna lose your games. But then when you watch how he's played the first two games, you go, he hasn't necessarily, you know, even done that for us. So I think at that point, if you're. If you're deciding between the two, then you do say, hey, at least we can get something. The fans excited for something. Have some. Agreed. Cutter has to be the guy.

[Ryan Lemond]

859-280-2287 who we got? Shannon.

[Shannon the Dude]

Let's go to Nick.

[Ryan Lemond]

Nick, go ahead. Nick, you're on. Jack Pilgrim.

[Caller]

Hey. Hey, guys. Good morning. Don't have a question. Just. I thought I heard Jack Pilgrim on the. On the radio and just wanted to call in and say how much I appreciate the work that him and Sean Smith are doing over on the source of Safe Podcast. It's. It's been a weekly thing for me and I'm. I'm waiting to the point where we get back into a normal rhythm of it, because I can't wait for the season to start. But, Jack, y' all doing great stuff, man. Just want to encourage y'. All.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Bam.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's nice for your. Your dad to call in and compliment you like that.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

I really do appreciate that. Yeah, we're just itching for the. I told Stephen this just a couple days ago. I'M kind of getting that itch of like, man, I could do a little road trip to Tuscaloosa right now. I could do a little, you know, Columbia, South Carolina. I'm kind of getting, getting that itch again for basketball season and traveling all these cool venues and, you know, I remember last year when we were at Thompson Bowling Arena. We're going up and I'm wearing a UK jacket like a. And fans are just screaming, screaming at me and cussing me out. And I'm like, yes, I, I need this. Bring, bring this on. Because it's SEC basketball, man. What more could you ever ask for?

[Ryan Lemond]

859-280-2287. That's our phone number. We'll take our break, come back. But I do want to tell you guys something before we go to the break. You guys know where Everts Kentucky is? You know what county Everts is in?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Everett's.

[Ryan Lemond]

Everett?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

I don't.

[Ryan Lemond]

Harlan County. Okay, here's why I want to tell you this story. Tonight in Everts, they're going to name the football field for former player Scotty Russell, who is their only Mr. Football held the state rushing record. But there's more outside the football stadium, which is not going to be named after Scotty Russell. They're going to name it the street outside the field for Perky Bryant. Perky Bryant grandson is Trent Noah.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

I was wondering where the connection was going to come in for the Mountain Mamba.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

How long until we get Mountain Mamba things named after him?

[Ryan Lemond]

As soon as he leaves Kentucky, they'll be Mountain Mamba gym, Trent Noah field they'll have at the field house. They'll have it all ready for.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Are they going to name a mountain after him down there?

[Ryan Lemond]

They should.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

It's fitting.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's why.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Haven't they already done that Nil.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's the Mountain Mamba.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

I don't know who would pay for that Nil deal. The Parks department maybe, but I feel, I feel like there's something to be had there.

[Ryan Lemond]

So that's tonight in the little city of Everts, Perky Bryant Road outside of Scotty Russell Stadium. And Perky Bryant's the grandfather of Trent Noah. So there you go. All right, we'll take our final break, come back. Our final segment. 859-280-2287. Ryan, Jack and Shannon, we'll be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

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[Ryan Lemond]

It's on my playlist where I listen to it just about every single day because it's about my my high school years and my college years in the 80s. It's perfect. I love this song.

[Shannon the Dude]

Relive that every morning when you wake up, huh?

[Ryan Lemond]

Absolutely. I still do. Let it play while I read this. Read then. That'll make it even better. You know, it's football time in the bluegrass. Let's huddle up for a game plan. You wouldn't skip halftime adjustments, right? So don't skip your skin. Check Kentucky Skin Center. Kentucky Skin Cancer center has your back, your arms, your face, neck, ears. Even though spots you forgot existed because waiting too long, that's how you lose the game. So we'll see Dr. Skaggs, he's a UK alum, which means two things. He's got great judgment and knows how to take care of his people. They got locations all over Kentucky, Owensboro, Bowling Green, Glasgow, Franklin, even Muhlenberg County. Kentucky Skin Cancer center is one of the most trusted skin cancer centers in the region. It is the most trusted skin cancer center in the region with doctors and surgeons using cutting edge technology to cure your skin cancer and leave you looking your best. Bottom line, your skin deserves the best. So call 270-842-1999 like the Prince song. 270-842-1999 or visit Kentuckyskincancercenter.com Kentucky Skin Cancer center where you're not just a patient, your family. 859-280-2287. That's the Clark's Puppy Shop phone number. Shannon, let's go to the phone lines. Who we got?

[Shannon the Dude]

All right, let's go to Dan.

[Ryan Lemond]

Dan. Go ahead, Dan.

[Caller]

Yeah, from Locking Mountain. How you guys doing?

[Ryan Lemond]

Hey, Dan, how are you doing, buddy? You feeling all right? How's your health doing?

[Caller]

Yeah, man. I tell you what guys, God's looking after me. I guess everything is good right now.

[Ryan Lemond]

Great to hear, great to hear.

[Caller]

Look, I went to both games and the. I mean as you already I didn't listen to yesterday but I know everybody's talking about how much our offense and our quarterbacks improved and what do you all think that we have a chance to go six and six now or do we have to beat South Carolina to get there?

[Ryan Lemond]

Appreciate it. Dan. Good to hear from you. Glad you're doing well. I'm. Shannon's been 6 and 6 all season long. I think Florida now looks like more of a winnable game but I thought they might win at Vandy. I don't know Vandy is such a winnable game now and I don't know if at Auburn such a winnable game now there maybe Auburn and Vandy may be better than I thought. Florida maybe not as good as I thought. What's your take on now, Jack?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Yeah, I think Florida is definitely beatable and they're definitely in like. I don't know if they're even rooting for their team to win games because I think they want Billy Napier gone yesterday. So we could be to a point where Billy is coaching for his job or they're like, hey, lose. We're rooting for Kentucky so we can finally get Billy out of there. So definitely a winnable game. Vandy I still think is winnable, although they just beat South Carolina and then Louisville I think is still beatable as well. So I mean it. You only got to find four more. You only got to find four more.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, are there four out there that.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

It's going to be tight. It is going to be very, very tight. I'm not betting on it still, but I think the path is there. I think if. If Cutter continues to kind of build upon his first, first appearance and has that level of confidence and figures something out with the wide receivers, I think the running backs and tight ends will be. Be plenty. And I think the defense, I think defense is going to be good no matter what.

[Ryan Lemond]

Shannon's been on board since day one. He thinks still six and six and has your opinion swayed any, Shannon?

[Shannon the Dude]

No, I think if you beat South Carolina, you're definitely getting to six. I feel like the Florida game is one that's definitely winnable. As Jack said, I mean, South Carolina is winnable. I mean, Vandy just went to South Carolina and destroyed them. Plus they don't have a starting quarterback right now. So this is your chance to get them. If you're Kentucky going in next week.

[Ryan Lemond]

This will make this our draft king segment as well. We'll do a couple things first. I'll do basketball first, Shannon. Then we'll flip it to you for a little baseball. We mentioned we had Jeff Goodman and Rob Doster on here. They were talking about the NCAA tournament. Purdue is now the favorite to win the NCAA tournament championship at + 900. Kentucky at + 1800. If you think Kentucky has a Final Four team, anything can happen. Once you get to the final four at plus 1800, that might be a good bet to jump on on draft kings.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

I'm hammering it.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm going to. I didn't know it was that till I just looked it up.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

No arguments for me. I'm in. Let's do it.

[Ryan Lemond]

Shannon, what about the baseball side of it?

[Shannon the Dude]

So the Reds, for those of you keeping up with the Reds, they are two games back of the wild card and to make the playoffs right now they are plus 550. So would you go all in on the Reds to make the playoffs or. I mean, you're only going to get -800 odds to not take them to make the playoffs, so.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, they're playing the Cardinals this week, so that's three. That's going to get swept. That's losses. So bet against the Reds.

[Shannon the Dude]

Started yet, Starts tonight. Okay. All right.

[Ryan Lemond]

Starts tonight. And they're. I think the Reds are like a one and a one and a half run favorite. So at St. Louis, Cardinals win. Bet that one. So bet the Cardinals to win tonight. Kentucky, the final four odds. I just looked it up, Jack. Kentucky to make the final four plus 475. The favorite is Purdue at plus 205. Here's. Here are the favorites. What you think? Purdue, Houston, Duke, Yukon. Those are the top four to make to make the Final Four.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Yeah, I think that's, that's probably fair. And I, I don't know, I feel like 475 isn't, isn't the best odds, but you know, I'm also higher on the Cats than usual.

[Ryan Lemond]

So Louisville also at 4. 475.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Yeah, I don't, I don't like that.

[Ryan Lemond]

But BYU is at 450. BYU is ranked ahead of Kentucky and Louisville to make the Final Four.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

That's insane. I think BYU is going to be good.

[Ryan Lemond]

They got the guy, they got the superstar, right. They committed to him.

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

AJ The Bance is very, very good, but not a one man show out there. So we'll see, we'll see when the ball is tipped.

[Ryan Lemond]

So Kentucky 475. Plus 475 to make the final four. Plus 1800 to make them win the national championship. Might as well. Why not? Why not throw something?

[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

Yeah, I mean, I'm personally pushing all my chips in on it, but I just, I wish you could get better value for Final four, but hey, 1800, I like it.

[Ryan Lemond]

Listen, thank you so much for coming in, dude. Really appreciate that. The arm is always loose in the bullpen and we can't thank you enough for coming in today. Kind of a rough day with Drew with what he's going through. So we'll be back tomorrow live from KS Bar and Grill with Lee K. Howard I think is in the house. We'll be right back. Tomorrow in 22 hours on Kentucky Sports Radio.

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[Shannon the Dude]

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[Shannon the Dude]

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[Jack Babyface Pilgrim]

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