2025-09-19- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

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Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – Hour 1

Date: September 19, 2025
Location: Live at Wild Eggs, Tate’s Creek
Hosts: Matt Jones, Shannon the Dude, Jeff Pecoro, Mario Maitland
Special Event: Wild Eggs Grand Opening & Mario Maitland’s Birthday

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Episode Overview

This episode of KSR radiates the show’s signature blend of UK sports updates, rivalry banter, and local Lexington flavor. Broadcasting live from the freshly opened Wild Eggs in Tate’s Creek, the crew delivers both lighthearted antics and substantive sports analysis. The headline topic is a recruiting “dance” between Kentucky basketball’s Mark Pope and Louisville’s Pat Kelsey, sparking discussions on rivalry dynamics, the unwritten rules of college basketball recruiting, and what it means for the UK/U of L relationship going forward. The crew also dives into the football team's early season defense underperformance, UK’s permanent SEC rivals with conference expansion, and the strengths of UK women’s volleyball. True to form, the show is heavy on chemistry, inside jokes, and community interaction, underlined by memorable audience engagement and a pancake-flipping contest tease.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Roll Call & Special Guests (02:16–03:34)

• Only Shannon the Dude is present from the regular crew; Jeff Pecoro is called in as a “bullpen” host.
• Mario Maitland is celebrated for his birthday.
• Light ribbing as they recount connections to TJ Smith and old UK memories.

2. The Pope vs. Kelsey Recruiting Showdown (04:19–11:52)

Story Setup (04:19–05:21)

• The team eagerly recaps the “little dance” between UK coach Mark Pope and U of L’s Pat Kelsey over recruit Taylor “Tay” Kenny from Newport, now at Overtime Elite in Atlanta.
• KSR’s Jacob Polachek broke the story: both coaches tried to be first to visit Kenny as soon as the recruiting period opened at midnight. Pope was scheduled at 12:01, Kelsey came in at 12:15.
• Drama ensued when Kelsey arrived before Pope; rumors swirled about a confrontation, possibly exaggerated by social media.

The Rules and Rivalry Flavor (05:27–08:43)

• Jeff Pecoro (06:28): “Pat Kelsey is one of the great kids...wonderful motivator, sensational coach, great recruiter...just one of the great guys in sports.”
• Debate over whether it was a true rule breach or unwritten etiquette, and both coaches’ likeable personalities challenge fans' desire for a fiery rivalry.
• Mario Maitland (08:20): “I wish they actually did get in a scuffle...I like to see them going back at each other a bit.”

Unwritten Rules & Perspective (08:43–10:33)

• Jeff and Shannon agree it’s more of an unwritten courtesy than an actual rule.
• Shannon argues if roles were reversed, UK fans would praise Pope for assertiveness.

Recruit’s View & The Need for Heat (10:45–12:03)

• Discussion on whether recruits are actually influenced by witnessing coaches compete for them.
• Consensus: rivalry antics and boldness may impress recruits and fans alike.
• Shannon the Dude (11:41): “The bigger takeaway is now we at least have a little bit of fire between these two coaches...this rivalry needed that spark.”

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3. UK vs. U of L – Building the Rivalry Back Up (12:03–13:21)

• Both basketball programs considered “Final Four or bust” by Jeff Goodman.
• Anticipation for this year’s early-season UK/Louisville matchup.
• Scheduling football and basketball games so close together called “weird” by Jeff Pecoro.

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4. In-Show Antics and Local Wild Eggs Flavor (14:29–15:55)

• Hosts spotlight Wild Eggs’ new location, friendly staff, and the day’s giveaways.
• Anecdotes about arriving at the wrong location and upcoming pancake-flipping contest among the crew.

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5. Game Day Music at Kroger Field, Fan Experience & Authenticity (17:37–21:49)

• Listeners ask about the “yacht rock” and musical choices at Kroger Field.
• Debate over the need for energizing, player-preferred music to hype the team and student section.
• Jeff Pecoro (20:40): “The best Jeff Picaro is when Jeff Picaro takes off his broadcaster hat and wears his Kentucky hat...two of us sitting in a bar watching a game.”

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6. UK Football Early Season Recap (22:00–25:25)

• Jeff is disappointed in UK defense performance, especially at secondary.
• QB situation: Praise for Cutter’s progress and calls to ride the “hot hand.”
• Candid take on NIL dynamics influencing playing time: Jeff Pecoro (23:50): “When you spend seven figures to bring someone in, that person’s gonna get every chance to fail.”

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7. Community Engagement, Shout-outs, & Call-ins (25:56–36:09)

• Wild Eggs atmosphere playfully described, including a Louisville-shirted server (to be good-naturedly booed).
• Listeners pitch UK football stadium entrance music ideas (e.g., “Never Leave Harlan Alive” mixed with “Grove Street Party”).
• Caller laments Kentucky wrestling not getting enough coverage.

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8. Volleyball Shines & Family Vibes (34:26–35:40)

• UK women’s volleyball big win over #3 ranked Louisville at the Yum Center is highlighted – “offense was ridiculous” (Jeff Pecoro).
• Recounted bar scene: an “older gentleman” fan provided passionate, running commentary alongside the KSR crew.

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9. SEC Expansion & Permanent Opponent Predictions (42:10–45:47)

• Next week, SEC will announce “permanent” football opponents (three per school, rotated every four years).
• Panel predicts UK gets Georgia, Vandy, and either Missouri or South Carolina—expressed reluctance to make Alabama a yearly fixture.
• Shannon the Dude (43:44): “Even though [Tennessee] beat our brains in every year, I still like to play them every year.”

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10. Final Shout-Outs and Closing Notes (41:19–End)

• Birthday acknowledgments, especially long-standing local sports supporter Gary Ball.
• Reminder of the pancake-flipping contest, Wild Eggs menu highlights, and prizes for attendees.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jeff Pecoro (06:28): “Pat Kelsey is one of the great kids...a wonderful motivator...it’s hard not to like him.”
• Matt Jones (09:11): “If the roles were reversed and Pope cut the line in front of Pat Kelsey? We’d all be like, yeah! Good job. Way to be assertive.”
• Shannon the Dude (11:41): “At least now we have a little bit of fire between these two coaches...that’s what this rivalry needed.”
• Jeff Pecoro (23:50): “When you spend seven figures to bring someone in, that person’s gonna get every chance to fail. And I think that’s in every sport now in college and it’s unfortunate.”
• Matt Jones (20:40): “The best Jeff Picaro is when Jeff Picaro takes off his broadcaster hat and becomes Jeff the fan.”
• Jeff Pecoro (20:40): “It was like two of us sitting in a bar watching a game on TV. That’s the way it should be.”
• Jeff Pecoro (41:50): On Gary Ball: “He’s a guru...knows the schools, superintendents, athletic directors, coaches...single handedly got that network going.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:16–03:34 – Show introduction, roll call, special guests
• 04:19–11:52 – Mark Pope vs. Pat Kelsey recruiting episode
• 12:03–13:21 – Basketball rivalry, season outlook
• 14:29–15:55 – Wild Eggs grand opening banter, pancake contest
• 17:37–21:49 – Game day music at Kroger Field
• 22:00–25:25 – UK football defensive evaluation/QB discussion
• 34:26–35:40 – UK volleyball win & bar fan experience
• 42:10–45:47 – SEC permanent opponent predictions
• 41:19–42:10 – Gary Ball high school sports tribute

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Overall Tone

Conversational, witty, and self-aware—mixing inside jokes, audience shout-outs, and nostalgia for both Kentucky sports traditions and KSR’s own long-running legacy. Listeners get both hard sports insights (with a solid inside look at recruiting and SEC politics) and the entertainment value that has made KSR a Lexington staple.

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This summary hits the best of what KSR Hour 1 delivered: a blend of rivalry storytelling, UK sports analysis, caller/community fun, and the grassroots feel that sets the show apart.

Transcript

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[Jeff Pocaro]

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[Matt Jones]

All right, welcome in Kentucky Sports Radio.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Where's Matt?

[Matt Jones]

Matt we'll do a roll call here, see if we can find him. This is Kentucky Sports Radio as always, sponsored by the TJ Smith Law office. What happens when you call TJ Shannon?

[Shannon the Dude]

He'll make him pay.

[Matt Jones]

He will make him play pay. We got the A Vision glass text machine Shannon. What's the aviation glass text machine number?

[Shannon the Dude]

502-735-3680.

[Matt Jones]

There you go.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And our cars pumping shop phone number is 859-280-2287. We are live at the new Wild Eggs in Tate's Creek. It's kind of their grand opening today. We already did the pre show here, but we're going to kind of christen it. We got a great crowd here, a lot of giveaways. Come on out and join us. If you eat an entree, you got a chance to win a big gift basket. We've got Eric Church tickets to give away. We got gift cards to give away. A lot of stuff to give away. So come on out and join us live here at Wild Eggs. Well, Shannon.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Let's do our little roll call. Matt Jones.

[Shannon the Dude]

Not here.

[Matt Jones]

Drew Franklin.

[Shannon the Dude]

Absent.

[Matt Jones]

Billy R. Sports.

[Shannon the Dude]

Nope.

[Matt Jones]

Shannon the dude.

[Shannon the Dude]

I'm here.

[Matt Jones]

All right. Yeah. Shannon the dude's here.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So we've called out of the bullpen from Channel 36, also JMI, also the UK Radio Network. Also a longtime Lexington resident, a Tate Creek commodore. Ladies and gentlemen, let's give it up to Jeff Pocoro.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Wow. You know, I went to school with TJ Smith.

[Matt Jones]

Great uk.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

He was a cheerleader.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Great friend. Yes.

[Matt Jones]

And you were a football player.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So you made fun of him. Probably.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Well, he was the Wildcat, so.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, he was the Wild.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Oh, What?

[Shannon the Dude]

Wait a minute. I didn't know that he was the mascot. I thought he was, like, the guy at the bottom of the pyramid. You're telling me he was the Wildcat? I don't think he ever told me.

[Matt Jones]

I didn't know that either. And also joining us this morning, ladies and gentlemen, the birthday boy.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah. Happy birthday, Mario Maitland.

[Matt Jones]

Today is his birthday.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Oh, I thought that was Cam Newton.

[Matt Jones]

Cam Newton.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

There we go.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Let's start wearing clothes like Cam Newton does. Dude. What?

[Mario Maitland]

Oh, with the. The hat. I could pull off the. The cowboy hat. I couldn't do it.

[Matt Jones]

You got the fit.

[Mario Maitland]

I have to fit? Yeah, it's a little birthday fit. Thank you.

[Matt Jones]

Fit. So we wish you a very happy birthday. Come on out and wish Mario a happy birthday. So listen, guys, we got. I mean, we've already talked about on the pre show, but the number one topic, and it's my favorite topic of the week. Maybe my favorite topic of the month is the little dance, as you called it, between Mark Pope and Pat Kelsey that happened a couple weeks ago. So if you don't know the story, Jacob Polachek from KSR on three Sports kind of broke the story that a couple weeks ago at midnight, the recruiting period opened. Like, maybe it was like September 2nd, September 3rd at midnight, the recruiting period opened. All right, so Taylor Kenny is this kid from Newport, Kentucky that has now playing for overtime elite in Atlanta. Six, seven, six, seven, six, seven. @ Tay, Kenny. So Mark Pope had a schedule visit at 12, like, oh, one, like a minute after midnight. Pat Kelsey had a schedule Visit, like, at 12:15, like right after that. So they want to get in first as soon as it turns midnight. Well, the story goes that Mark Pope was running a little late, Shannon. I figured he must have got caught in Mount Vernon traffic.

[Shannon the Dude]

It happens.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon the Dude]

I was only two hours late for my show on Double Q yesterday, so it happens. I understand.

[Matt Jones]

So since Mark Pope was late, Pat Kelsey was already there. Kelsey kind of cut the line.

[Mario Maitland]

You can't do that.

[Matt Jones]

Cut her cutter. Peanut butter cut right in front of him.

[Shannon the Dude]

That's the third time. We've already heard that this morning.

[Matt Jones]

That's what we used to say in elders. And then someone, Pat Kelsey came out. Pope and Pat Kelsey had. What was you called it, Jeff, A dance. Like, had. Had words. There was. It did not get physical. They did not put hands on each other. All those reports were ridiculous. Take any, dad did not get out and separate him or. A matter of fact, I think the report I heard from Jack Pilgrim this morning, they may have even hugged it out and it was over. I don't want him hugging it out. I want him leaving it, driving off and pointing at each other and telling each other who's number one.

[Shannon the Dude]

So when Pat Kelce hugs Mark Pope, he just hugs his waistline?

[Matt Jones]

I guess so.

[Jeff Pocaro]

So if any, you know, you know, I 31 years, I was in Cincinnati and used to do Xavier basketball. And I knew Pat when he played actually high school ball at La Salle High School in Cincinnati. And then when he was at Xavier when Skip Prosser was the coach.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Jeff Pocaro]

And Pat Kelce is one of the great kids. I call him a kid. I'm 63 years old, so I'm allowed to call him a kid. But just one of the great guys in sports. He's a wonderful motivator. He's a sensational coach, great recruiter. He's everything you would want. And. And it's almost like what Mark said. Stoops. When Louisville hired Brahm, he was like, oh, I like Jeff. Yeah, he's a really good coach. Pat is a really likable person. Now, that being said, Mark is kind of the same way.

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Great guy, wonderful person, great recruiter. But there are rules in the recruiting game, and you just can't break those type of rules. And. And Pope had the first, you know, 12 o'.

[Matt Jones]

Clock.

[Jeff Pocaro]

He was supposed to be.

[Matt Jones]

Supposed to be there.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Kelsey, then we're sitting in the car outside, looked at his watch. This is 12 o'. Clock. I don't see any blue bandwagon here. Let's go, boys. And in they went. Hey, I gotta hand it to him. Now, what Mark says is he thinks he got in there before midnight, which is a violation. So that's the gray area.

[Shannon the Dude]

That's a bigger story.

[Jeff Pocaro]

That's where Kelsey was like, no, no.

[Matt Jones]

No, no, no, we weren't.

[Jeff Pocaro]

You weren't here at 12 o'.

[Matt Jones]

Clock.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Good. Our watch said 12 o'. Clock. We went to the door. So that's kind of the gray area where all the infighting starts. But it makes a great story for you guys at ks, the guys in Louisville that are the Redbird reporter, wherever the heck those guys are. So it's just gonna be in the fans. Love it. Love it.

[Shannon the Dude]

And we need to get back to where we were with Caliperi and Patino when those guys were just at each other. It's more fun for the fans. It's better for the rivalry. But everything you said just made me like Pat Kelsey. I'm trying to hate the guy, you know, I mean, not really.

[Matt Jones]

It's hard.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah.

[Shannon the Dude]

Both of these guys just have likable personality. They're kind of goofy, they're light hearted. So that's the complete opposite. What we have with Patino and Caliperi.

[Mario Maitland]

Man, I thought, honestly, I've seen so many stuff on social media with, you know, Mark Pope hugging Pat Kelce and he's kind of like sunning him a little bit, you know, palming his head and everything like that. I wish it was true. Like, I wish they actually did get in the scuffle. Obviously they didn't. So, you know, I like to see their kind of, you know, going back at each other a little bit. It's good. It's not where we really want it to be, but it's heading the right.

[Shannon the Dude]

Jeff, when you say there are rules, is that like an unwritten rule or are there actual rules?

[Jeff Pocaro]

Well, and yeah, I was just gonna ask you guys what you thought about that. I. I think it's the unwritten rule. We were supposed to be first, you know, you weren't supposed to be there to 12th.

[Shannon the Dude]

See, now, look, if it's unwritten, I'm saying rules like that could be broken.

[Jeff Pocaro]

What's the difference? You're still going to give him your spiel.

[Shannon the Dude]

You are, you are. But it's probably midnight. It's getting late. He's like, I don't want to be here all night. So he just goes right on in. I don't know. I mean.

[Matt Jones]

So Shannon brought this point up on the pre show. What if the roles were reversed and Pope cut the line in front of Pat Kelsey? We'd all be like, yeah, that's good coaching. Great job. Attaboy. Way to be assertive. Way to be. You know, be forward thinking.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Watch the kid go to North Carolina or something.

[Matt Jones]

Like the big leader right now. Here we are. Refinery. But I'm. I'm with you guys. The rivalry. We need this. I don't want to like Pat Kelsey. I mean, I don't want. I don't care if it's a nerd fighter, geek fighter, whatever. I need this.

[Mario Maitland]

So why Kansas, though? I know that he's the leaderboard.

[Shannon the Dude]

Well, probably the nil has a lot to do with that. I. I don't know that they have significantly more money to offer than Kentucky or Lobo does, but that always factors in.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they offered him more money. They're an Adidas school. Adidas school and overtime Elite is sense.

[Shannon the Dude]

My overall takeaway on it is, though, if it's an unwritten rule and Mark Pope's not there, I don't know. I. If we took the names out of the scenario and I'm there and the other coach isn't, I'm probably gonna walk on in, too. You know, it's like, well, if you don't like it, don't be late.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Exactly. I. I agree. 100.

[Matt Jones]

But you call. So you called it a dance. It's kind of, I guess, a little bit of an argument, but I think not only does the fan base need it, I think the announcers need it. We need that. Not. We don't want to like him. He's been likable up to this point. I don't cut her. How do you like somebody cuts. Cuts line, man. Nobody likes the.

[Shannon the Dude]

Pope wasn't there, though. That's the problem. Pope wasn't there.

[Jeff Pocaro]

It's not like there was no line to cut.

[Shannon the Dude]

It's not like, here's. Here's. Take Kenny's apartment door, and there's a line, and there's Mark. There's all these other people. And then Pat Kelsey just went up and opened the door and walked in. Pope wasn't even there, though. That's the. That's the thing. I think that's what makes it different.

[Matt Jones]

You know, for a long time, Kentucky and Louisville were probably the leaders for this kid. You know, he grew up in Newport, then he's played for overtime elite the last two years. Kansas kind of snuck in and got him. But yet, you know, I mean, Pope's not going to give up and quit recruiting the kid.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Does this, if you're a recruit, does it make a difference at all if you look out your living room window and there's two coaches pointing their fingers and arguing with each other out in your driveway?

[Jeff Pocaro]

I, I actually would think, how would you feel? I mean, like, Josiah, if you're, if you're at home, coaches, you sit at the look and you're like, damn, well, I'm somebody.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah, somebody like this.

[Jeff Pocaro]

It's worse if there's nobody.

[Shannon the Dude]

What if you're in your apartment, you look out and there's two beautiful women that you love, and they're both arguing over you?

[Matt Jones]

Right. I'm sitting there eating my popcorn.

[Shannon the Dude]

Makes me feel special.

[Jeff Pocaro]

That happens all the time in his house. Kidding me.

[Matt Jones]

I'm sitting there eating my popcorn, watching it go happen. And. But if you're a recruit and you look out your window, I'm loving it.

[Mario Maitland]

Two coaches fighting over me.

[Matt Jones]

I think so, too.

[Mario Maitland]

Oh, yeah. I'm that dude.

[Shannon the Dude]

The bigger takeaway is now we at least have a little bit of fire between these two coaches. And that's the thing I think that this rivalry needed. And if it comes down to one person cutting in front of another to get that spark going, then I'm for it.

[Matt Jones]

And we're talking about two teams that Jeff Goodman said earlier this week, Final Four busts, kind of for both program. I mean, both teams will be really, really good this year. And Kentucky's got to play at Louisville in early November before. Before the football game.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Before the football game is the basketball game.

[Matt Jones]

You gotta, you gotta not like that.

[Jeff Pocaro]

That's. No. I, I, I think it's really weird the way that the fall schedules are set up, because, look, football is a beast all across the country. Basketball is a beast. Why would you overlap those? Why can't you just back that up? Two weeks until football ends, and then basketball.

[Shannon the Dude]

Pope blames Kelsey. So maybe there's another thing, you know, just kind of just nudge at the other one.

[Matt Jones]

So we're going to be here at Wild Eggs. We're getting a lot of free food to get, free gift cards to give away. Look at Travis looked at it.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Look up what you said.

[Matt Jones]

Free food, free gift card that you can buy the food with Travis. That's the best way to do it. We got a big gift basket here. If you order an entree, you get in the running for the big gift basket. We got Eric Church tickets to give away. A lot I do need to say before we go to a break, Drew was going to try to make it today. He was a strong maybe he woke up this morning, heart still hurting. If you have Instagram, go to what Drew posted on Instagram yesterday about his buddy Manny that passed away. If you don't tear up, get you some Kleenex before you read it. But it's just a great testimonial to a dear friend who passed away way too early, way too young. So Drew sends his regards. Sorry he couldn't make it, but I speak for everybody, we all completely understand he's got to take care of himself.

[Jeff Pocaro]

So.

[Matt Jones]

All right, we'll take our break, come back, go to the phone lines. 859-280-2287. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

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[Matt Jones]

Alright. Welcome back Kentucky Sports Radio live from Wild Eggs in Tate's Creek. This is their new location. They're located by the neighborhood Walmart here in the Tate's Creek area. Now they're a third location. They've got one in Hamburg, they've got one in Palomar. Now this one in Tates Creek. This is probably maybe their biggest one. Is this your biggest one, Travis? I think. And they got a big nice bar here. Got the garage door open.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Garage doors.

[Matt Jones]

How cool is that? Right behind us. So, so come on out and join us this morning or whenever it's breakfast brunch and Lunch with a bar.

[Shannon the Dude]

That's right.

[Matt Jones]

Wild Eggs.

[Shannon the Dude]

I didn't know this place existed until this morning. I went to the wrong location.

[Matt Jones]

You know that you went to the.

[Shannon the Dude]

Wrong location here, like two minutes before the show started.

[Mario Maitland]

How'd you go to the wrong location?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know.

[Shannon the Dude]

I mean, we don't have communicate. I mean, we're a communications business.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Right.

[Shannon the Dude]

Company, and we don't communicate. Nobody told me where to go, so I just assumed, well, it must be where we did the last one at. But I was wrong. I walked in there and she looked.

[Mario Maitland]

At me like, show here.

[Matt Jones]

We only said it on the show this week four or five times. I'm pretty sure we did new and new and it takes.

[Shannon the Dude]

But you got to keep in mind, I don't live in Lexington, so when you say Tate's Creek, that doesn't mean anything.

[Jeff Pocaro]

When did you leave this morning? Doesn't matter.

[Shannon the Dude]

What time did I leave? 7:00 clock this morning. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Well, we've got some specials on the fall menu. We got pumpkin pie, pancakes, and apple cider mimosas if you want to come on in.

[Shannon the Dude]

Are we doing a pancake?

[Matt Jones]

We're supposed to do a pancake flipping contest with Mario back in the kitchen.

[Mario Maitland]

I'm winning it. I'm winning. I'm the best cook out of everybody on it.

[Shannon the Dude]

Have you been a cook at a restaurant before, Mario?

[Mario Maitland]

Have I been a cook at a restaurant?

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Mario Maitland]

No.

[Shannon the Dude]

Okay. Ryan, I assume you haven't.

[Matt Jones]

I have not. But I am an excellent cook.

[Shannon the Dude]

Okay, well, we'll see who wins that later on today then.

[Matt Jones]

From the aviation glass text machine. The Pope vs Kelsey thing is funny. Now, what if it was Matt Jones versus Captain Suntan? What would Matt have done?

[Shannon the Dude]

Oh, wow.

[Matt Jones]

Take a picture of it.

[Shannon the Dude]

He would have taken a picture of him.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Mario Maitland]

Read it out.

[Shannon the Dude]

I mean, those two have had their run ins over the years.

[Jeff Pocaro]

They have, but that's the dude on TV in Louisville, right?

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. John Ramsey.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah. Ramsey.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon the Dude]

I think Ramsey challenged Matt to a.

[Matt Jones]

A fight. He did one time.

[Shannon the Dude]

I think Matt backed down from that. I don't think Matt wanted to fight anybody. But I would like to see it, though. I don't think that rivalry really exists anymore, though. Kind of. It kind of died down.

[Matt Jones]

We got a lot of football stuff we want to get to with Jeff since he's here, but I kind of read this.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Talk more about Captain Sunday.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, Henson. One time in the press box at Kroger Field. It got a little icy. Really? Between the two guys? Yeah. I'M gonna give Matt credit. He was completely innocent. He was not sure I was right.

[Shannon the Dude]

I'm sure he's completely innocent.

[Matt Jones]

No, no.

[Shannon the Dude]

The crazier thing for me, though, is, you know, back in the early days of ksr, Matt had his list of enemies, and he would go with the room every day and just whatever the topic was, it was just Jeff Goodman's fault. It was Jeff Goodman's fault every day. And now Jeff Goodman works under the same umbrella as KSR with on 3. So now those guys are buddies all these years later.

[Matt Jones]

But Patino came back on the show. They kind of made nice. Nice. Jeff Goodman's made night nice.

[Shannon the Dude]

I guess we all get older and a little more soft over the years because he doesn't have those. Those, I guess, rivalries on through media anymore like he used to.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

So this on the aviation glass text machine. Ask Jeff about the music at Kroger Field. Pocoro even said during the broadcast, what is this yacht rock referring to the music in Kroger Field?

[Jeff Pocaro]

The thing that kills me is before the game.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Jeff Pocaro]

If you're a player and you're getting ready to come out, what do you want? I want, you know, flirting with this Astro. I want something that's gonna charge you up. Right.

[Shannon the Dude]

Molly Hatchet.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah. Look at you pulling that out. Atta boy. I want something like that where I'm getting ready to run through a wall. Right?

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Jeff Pocaro]

You know, we play Kentucky. You're like, yeah, yeah. Through the hills of Kentucky, all the way from Ashland. And you're like, what is this?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon the Dude]

Somebody reading poetry.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yes. And it goes on for like, yes. All roads lead to Lexus. And the players are like, yeah, well.

[Matt Jones]

We'Ve talked about this. They need to play the music that the players want to hear. You know, Mario's talked about this. You know, the hip hop, the. The rap music, the.

[Mario Maitland]

They don't even got to be hip hop. It's just something that you got, like, that's. That'll pump them up, get them going, get the student section, like, riled up.

[Jeff Pocaro]

But it was yacht rock, right? They were playing some. I know it was Christopher Cross or something. I'm like, what is this?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, you know, they always mix in a Cotton Eyed Joe, which is fine, but they always mix in.

[Shannon the Dude]

That's after the game, though. I think it's okay. I'm talking about before the game, especially, and then in the game, too.

[Matt Jones]

So. So what can. What can Kentucky do about this has been a theme for many years, but it's really kind of come to a head this year. What can they do?

[Jeff Pocaro]

You know what else I hate? I hate it every time I'm at a foot. Especially basketball games.

[Shannon the Dude]

Oh yeah. The 80s Jock Rock.

[Matt Jones]

Hey.

[Jeff Pocaro]

And I'm like.

[Shannon the Dude]

It's got this crowd going crazy.

[Jeff Pocaro]

And then when they do that thing where they, they just make a pyramid standing there, the cheerleaders and it's like the greatest thing in the history of Rina goes crazy. They play 2001 A Space Odyssey because they're holding a flag.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Jeff Pocaro]

And you're like, what is this?

[Matt Jones]

So what can we do at Kroger Field to help? Do you have any idea?

[Shannon the Dude]

Get a better playlist.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Maybe you're trying to get me in trouble.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, take your JMI hat off.

[Shannon the Dude]

Can't I.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Why don't you take that Kentucky hat off? Because the administration in Kentucky, I think is the one that says this is what we're doing.

[Matt Jones]

Well, the rumor, and I also believe this thing. Most people feel like it's gotten better since last game.

[Mario Maitland]

The last game was much.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Could you imagine if he was running it?

[Matt Jones]

Well, Matt has said that for years and he just let Shannon do it.

[Shannon the Dude]

Hey, I mean, I've already got seven other jobs. Why not? Hey, money talks.

[Jeff Pocaro]

They'll pay you like they pay me. 25 bucks a game.

[Shannon the Dude]

JMI, Kentucky, whoever you are, whoever's listening out there, for the right price. Yeah, I'll come. I'll come to krogerville.

[Matt Jones]

Well, the best Jeff Picaro is when Jeff Picaro takes off his broadcaster hat and wears his Kentucky hat. And you can tell as a. As if you become a fan sometimes during the broadcast. I love that. I love that when you become Jeff the fan.

[Jeff Pocaro]

I just think for me growing up, the guys that I like, the Harry carries the, the summeralls and guys like that just. It was like two of us sitting in a bar watching a game on tv. And that's the way. Because look, I could sit out there and tell you guys they're running Cover 7 and they're doing a double roll up zone and they're bracketing there's. And everybody's gonna be sit. Hell is he talking about.

[Shannon the Dude]

The average fan has no idea what that is.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Nobody wants to hear that. All they want to hear is Shannon missed that block. And that's why that guy is. Is on a gurney being taken off the field, you know? Yeah, that, that's all.

[Matt Jones]

Some of the best Jeffrel though is like during the commercial break, that's when fan Jeff really comes out. Sometimes I'm so Happy you get frustrated just like we do.

[Jeff Pocaro]

I'm so happy they don't have the old sub. What is that called? On the satellites?

[Shannon the Dude]

Oh yeah, I know what you're saying. There used to be feeds back in the day where you had the giant satellites and you could, you know, just go around on your, on your TV channels and you would find a feed that was live. Even when it was off the air, you could still hear what the commentators were saying. And this is like an old 90s thing, I don't think. I don't know if that even still exists anymore. But yeah, if they had that, you.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Well, it existed in Cincinnati when I was there. He still doesn't have a job, but. Oh no, he is. He's on wlw. That's right.

[Matt Jones]

Tom Brennaman.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

I didn't know that.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah, that was interesting.

[Matt Jones]

Before we really get into the weeds about football and stuff, what are your thoughts about what you've seen just so far the first three games?

[Jeff Pocaro]

I'm very disappointed and Brad will be the first one to tell you. The defense I thought was going to be fantastic. And I think in the first three games it hasn't been.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Jeff Pocaro]

And I'm like, wow, what's the problem? And DJ Wallers was playing great. He'll probably play next week. Okay, I hope. But you know, he's cornerback and they're getting killed on the outside because they know that Tyryon and. And some of the younger that are playing out their corner, they don't want to get beat deep. Right. So they're eight yards off the ball. And what's killed Kentucky, six yard stop, turn around and miss tackle. And that's all Ole Miss does. I mean, Ole Miss this whole game is just a little five, six yard passes and hope that one out of every eight of those they're going to break it and it's going to be a what coach calls a chunk play. And but to me, the defense just hasn't lived up to what I thought it was going to be. I think Zach tries to be too perfect when he's out there. He's. He wants the perfect play.

[Mario Maitland]

Safe.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah. Yeah. And again, Cutter is. It just seems so much more comfortable now. Bigger, stronger. His second year in the offense, I think he knows it pretty well. And you saw there were. He only completed 12 passes but 240 yards. So that means he's going down the field and that's exactly what this offense needs because now the safeties can't play 8 yards off the ball. If you're going down the field. They got to play 12 to 15 and that opens up the running game.

[Shannon the Dude]

Do you feel like this is Cutter's job to lose at this point in the season with Calzada still nursing that injury? Or do you think that maybe Stoops would go back?

[Jeff Pocaro]

Do you want me to answer this with a Kentucky hat on or as a broadcaster?

[Shannon the Dude]

Just, just honestly? As honestly as you can.

[Jeff Pocaro]

I really think that when you spend seven figures to bring someone in, that person's gonna get every chance to fail. And I think that's in every sport. Now in college and it's unfortunate, but if I'm the coach and I'm looking at the production I get, and again, you have to. You have to temper it a little bit because it's Eastern Michigan. Hell, we could take nine of you guys and us up here and beat Eastern Michigan. But, you know, let's see what happens.

[Matt Jones]

Look who you're looking at here.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah, look, that's my left tackle. He's my right guard.

[Shannon the Dude]

Pat right here.

[Matt Jones]

Y.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Tight end right there. He's even got a Reds hat on. So I know he's a big fan.

[Shannon the Dude]

But. But even if Cutter maybe looks better than Calzada, you think that he's still going to stick with Calzada because of the NIL money and, and he being the guy that you brought in originally to be QB1?

[Jeff Pocaro]

Well, it's real interesting to me with this program that they can't manufacture a quarterback. Right?

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Jeff Pocaro]

This is the fifth straight year they've had a different transfer in a quarterback.

[Matt Jones]

And they spent a lot of money on Leary.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah. And Cutter's a guy that's from here. He's been here since he's a freshman. He's getting, getting into it. He's playing better. I go with the hot hand until he falls on his face. You know, you've always got Zach as the backup.

[Matt Jones]

I go with the hot hand and just run with him if he's your quarterback for the future.

[Shannon the Dude]

That's the thing. If you're calling him your quarterback of the future and you truly mean that.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon the Dude]

Then show him that and give him.

[Jeff Pocaro]

That if you're only going to win. And again, coming into the season, a lot of people are saying four or five wins. If you're going to win four or five, then get some young kids in there who are going to grow with him next year.

[Shannon the Dude]

He's got to throw everything he's got against the wall this year to prove everybody wrong.

[Matt Jones]

Alright, we are live at Wild Eggs out Here in Tates Creek. It's a new Wild Eggs location. They've got one out at Hamburg, one in Palomar. Now they've opened this one up here in Tates Creek. Coming out. Got a great crowd and the food is fantastic. You won't be disappointed. So we'll take our break. Come back. Ryan, Mario, the birthday boy, Shannon and Jeff Pocoro, Kentucky Sports Radio. Alright, welcome back Kentucky Sports Radio. Live from Wild Eggs in Tate's Creek. Of course, Wild Eggs is the official breakfast of ksr Breakfast, brunch and lunch for the bar Wild Eggs. So come on out and join us. We'll be out here for the rest of the day and we'll rest until. Until noon.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah, speak for yourself. You can stay here all day if you want to.

[Matt Jones]

I love their workers. I love Travis and Scott that run the place. Josiah works at Wild Eggs.

[Mario Maitland]

Who doesn't like Wild Eggs?

[Matt Jones]

But there is one of their servers walking around wearing a Louisville shirt.

[Jeff Pocaro]

What?

[Mario Maitland]

I did see that earlier.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, wait till you see him hiding.

[Mario Maitland]

I don't know where he is.

[Matt Jones]

When he comes back out, we all have to boo him. And here's the catch. His name is Sam Mitchell. It's Mary Joe Perino's son.

[Jeff Pocaro]

What?

[Caller]

Whoa, whoa.

[Matt Jones]

Mary Joe Ford son.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Walk around with the Louisville shirt on back here. So when he walks out, we'll all boo him. When he comes. He's back in the kitchen right now.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Shannon's got a Louisville shirt on.

[Matt Jones]

Double Q. It's not a Louisville shirt. WKQQ. All right. 859-280-2287. That's our cars pumping shop phone number. We got some calls on right now. Let's go ahead and take. Oh, man. There he is. He's handling like a champ.

[Jeff Pocaro]

I thought that was a QMF shirt.

[Matt Jones]

Double Q.

[Shannon the Dude]

Well, I'm on QMF and Double Q. You know, I do like seven jobs.

[Jeff Pocaro]

The show with no name. One of the greatest shows in the.

[Shannon the Dude]

History of radio was that Terry Miners.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Terry Miners and Ron Clay way back in the day.

[Matt Jones]

Way back in the day. What's going to call Rick who We got first. Rick. Corey is up first. Go ahead, Corey.

[Shannon the Dude]

Whenever you're ready.

[Caller]

What's up guys? So I'm with you guys on the. All roads lead to Lexington. So we had a good run in Commonwealth, but it's more of like a mall walk now. So I have an idea to kind of upgrade that. So you know how Tennessee took rocky top and slowed it down and made it kind of creepy before the Team runs out. We could do the same thing with Never Leave Harlan Alive. Put that with the blue lights.

[Jeff Pocaro]

It'd be awesome.

[Caller]

No, like, make it. You know, how the Tennessee makes Rocky tops the creep. Kind of creepy.

[Shannon the Dude]

Do the same thing song. Never Leave Harlan Alive is already slow. Yeah, yeah, maybe.

[Caller]

Maybe it. Yeah, maybe it sounds better in my head. But, yeah, like, make it kind of dark before the team runs out.

[Shannon the Dude]

Just speeding, speeding it up.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Dude, I don't want to get in Corey's head if that's what he wants. Slowing it down.

[Matt Jones]

Appreciate it, Corey. I mean, people, I think, love that song. I don't know, when you play it at a football game, at an event like that, you know, I think that the first time they did it, like, in between the third quarter and fourth quarter, I remember they did it. It was. It was cool. I got goosebumps. You still work now?

[Shannon the Dude]

I think you can use that song if you use a clip of it and then go into, like, a Grove Street Party. Like, if you could intro it with that and then like, hey, it's a party. You know what I mean? Like, if you. You kind of mesh those two together, or I guess it's called a mashup. You know, if you do something like that, it could work.

[Jeff Pocaro]

You know, I think every college in America is trying to find the perfect, like, Virginia Tech and Sandman.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yep.

[Jeff Pocaro]

The entire stadium, 75,000 people. And when that starts, they all. And it's all. I mean, I get goosebumps. Because if you've ever been there live, and it is ridiculous. Sweet Caroline, another. I mean, all these different schools, we've got to find that. That song because, well, Grove Street Party.

[Matt Jones]

That'S the song, right? Then they didn't play it the first game, but that. That's our only thing we've got.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's been here, right? He was in the game a couple times.

[Matt Jones]

I think he's coming to a game this year. He's got a concert. I know. On a Friday night in Lexington. I would say he'd be there the next game on Saturday.

[Shannon the Dude]

Even Florida Taken I Won't Back down by Tom Petty.

[Matt Jones]

Yep.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Before the fourth quarter. It's just.

[Shannon the Dude]

You gotta find that song that just gets everybody and raises the energy of the stadium.

[Matt Jones]

This from the aviation Last Tech machine. The Reds. The Cincinnati Reds made a lot of dumb moves over the years, but the one, the worst one, was moving Jeff off the broadcast. I hear a lot of that. They loved you doing the Reds broadcast back in the day.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Well, there was a situation there where Fox had to sell because of the, it would have been a monopoly with ESPN and everything because Disney bought Fox. And so when Valleys took over, it was a, it was really bad situation only because it was 2020 and it was the, what do we even call it? Yeah, whatever it was called the COVID So we didn't travel and yeah, the COVID We, you know, there was no travel. We did the games out of a studio downtown. Even, you know, we couldn't, we couldn't interview the players. Had to be, we're interviewing them on a computer. So I mean, I was 60 years old. It was time. I mean, 20, 26 years is a long time and I had a blast doing it. But, you know, I'm getting.

[Matt Jones]

People I think miss you on the broadcast, though.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Well, I just, like I said, I just try to have fun. I, Baseball is, is a lot of fun. I don't, you know what? I don't miss the games. I miss everything around the games. I miss spring training. I miss hanging out with the, you know, Bronson Royals. One of my good friends and he lives my house in Northern Kentucky. He lives in the two streets over from me. He's, you know, going out on his boat and stuff like that. I mean, those guys, you, you're it. To me, it's the greatest job in all the sports. And Bob Trumpy and I talked one time and he said, you have the best job in all the sports. And Trump, he did the Masters, he did NFL football, Notre Dame, he did everything, the Olympics. And he said, well, we do football. And I know that you fly in on Friday, you meet with the coaches. If you're doing a national broadcast, you meet with the coaches on Friday, the athletic director of the home team takes you, all the, you know, the, the broadcast crew out to dinner. You go to your hotel, you wake up in the morning, you go to the stadium. As soon as the game's over, boom, you're on a plane, you fly home. Yeah, baseball, you've got a four game series, so you're spending five nights in that city. We're, we were allowed to bring our golf clubs. Me, Chris Welch, Jeff Brantley, Marty Brenman. When Joe was alive. Joe, Joe and Marty. Joe was the greatest guy in the world. Yeah, just the greatest guy. But we would go play and I played six Ryder cup courses. I played some of the best golf courses in the country, and all for free, which is ridiculous. Even better. That's a great approach, is unbelievable. But that's what I miss about not doing Baseball. But it was. It was a lot of fun and I appreciate that.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon the Dude]

Now, are the Reds going to make the playoffs? They're two back with nine to go.

[Jeff Pocaro]

They've got to. Look, the problem with them is they just can't keep Hunter and Nick Lodolo healthy. Healthy last night for Hunter Green and what's he doing the game? Throws a shutout.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, right.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Complete game. Just he. That kid could be awesome. But they've got to keep. They've got to get 30 starts from each of those two. Somehow. Lodolo is, is. We call it like a guy with a glass jaw. I mean, you go like that, he's out for two weeks, you know.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Jeff Pocaro]

But when he's.

[Matt Jones]

Green was out with a blister on his finger.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Blister. He had a grown pole. I mean, it's just little things. If they could stay healthy and I think the one thing that they're missing on this team is they don't have a veteran leader. They don't have a guy that wears the C on his shirt that's been around to tell these guys the magnitude of. Of a game against. Who was it to just swept them a week ago or whatever it was. You're like, well, it wasn't the Cardinal.

[Shannon the Dude]

It wasn't Ryan's Cardinals.

[Jeff Pocaro]

How do you lose to, you know, my. Yeah, Miami. Three straight games and it turned around and you know, it's just. It's weird. And I think that's all they're missing, a veteran presence.

[Matt Jones]

859-280-2287. Let's get another phone call. Rick, who we got?

[Jeff Pocaro]

Alex is up next.

[Matt Jones]

Alex, go ahead, Alex.

[Caller]

Hey, guys, this is Alex Green. Ryan, I'm the one that timed your.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, I know you are running at.

[Caller]

Johnson Central that year. Okay. Yeah, I'm calling publicity. It was a Johnson Central belfry Halloween game. The. The University of Kentucky wrestling team. We have some SEC champions. We have some NCAA All Americans. We had two SEC championships back in the 70s. And I would love to get up with like Tyler or Drew or Nick or one of the KSR riders and just give them the information. The sport of wrestling in our state's growing. We have the Rainey twins. The Jaden Rainey just competed this week in the world championships in Croatia. I think the big blue nation would really enjoy some of the history that we have with Joe Carr senior.

[Matt Jones]

Alex, we appreciate. Yeah, Joe Carr from Woodford County. We appreciate that Fletcher was the coach. Appreciate the phone call, Alex.

[Shannon the Dude]

There you go. Tyler, if you're Listening. Get to work. Write that article for us.

[Matt Jones]

There we go. You know, he did mention the Randy Twins from Union County. They're probably the best wrestlers ever come out of this state. They're world champions right now out of Union County High School.

[Shannon the Dude]

I feel like volleyball is taking over right now.

[Matt Jones]

We got to talk about the volleyball game.

[Jeff Pocaro]

What a match last night.

[Matt Jones]

It was awesome. Volleyball team goes to the Yum center to play Louisville. Louisville ranked third country. Kentucky ranked sixth in the country. It goes to the fifth game, that fourth game. In fifth game, Kentucky just dominated offense.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Their offense was ridiculous. 444 is what they hit in the fourth game, which is ridiculous. Most teams said about 275, 444. And then in the fifth game, when you only go to 15, they hit over 500%.

[Matt Jones]

It was over early.

[Jeff Pocaro]

It was crazy. 15 to 7. I mean, that's like a 62 to.

[Matt Jones]

7 game in football opposite my Mario last night. KS Bar had the game on. That fifth game went by so fast. He looked up like, is it over? Like you didn't even know it had ended.

[Mario Maitland]

It did. They were down for a little bit in the series. Like two to one, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, two to one back.

[Mario Maitland]

Brooklyn Delay, she had a few big.

[Matt Jones]

Plays, so huge plays.

[Jeff Pocaro]

24 kills.

[Mario Maitland]

Big time win for Kentucky.

[Matt Jones]

We got to talk about. We watched the game with an older gentleman.

[Mario Maitland]

Yeah, who was that?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know who he was, but he was living and dying with every point. Was.

[Mario Maitland]

He was definitely carrying all the energy in the bar.

[Jeff Pocaro]

He.

[Mario Maitland]

He was leading the.

[Matt Jones]

He was parked right in front of the big screen and had the game on. Living and dying every point. Doing his own Jeff Pocoro commentary, fanboy commentary during the game. But it was kind of fun to be there and watch with somebody who was such a big fan.

[Mario Maitland]

I didn't even really need to look up. I would just hear him and whatever he would say, I would learn from whatever is going on in the game.

[Matt Jones]

Another call. Rick, who we got? Ryan is up next. Ryan. Go ahead, Ryan.

[Caller]

So on Calzada, is he the guy that we were going after and we paid him that money because that's what he was worth, or is he a.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Guy that just kind of fell to us? We ended up paying him, you know.

[Caller]

That rate because we hoped he would.

[Matt Jones]

Live up to it. Fair question. Appreciate the phone call, Jeff.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Well, I think that there's tears when you're talking about some of these players. For instance, the kid that was Georgia's quarterback last year is now at Miami. I mean, he's making obscene money. Carson to go to Miami, I mean, he's making like $4 million this year.

[Matt Jones]

That's why.

[Jeff Pocaro]

And that's why Kentucky doesn't have that kind of money. So you're not going to get the tier one guys. So now you go to tier two and you say, okay, which of these guys fits our offense? And, and they sift. They. They actually have three or four coaches that they're called coaches. Maybe GA's, I'm not sure. But all they do all day is sit there and sift through the transfer portal and each of them have different positions. Okay, Ryan, you've got the defensive backs, all right. And Mario, you've got the defensive line. And Shannon, you've got the offense. So these guys every day are going through and seeing who the fits would be next year to guys that they think will be going or who are in the portal. So they sift through that tier two or tier three, and they say, okay, I like, this guy's got a chance, this guy's got a chance. Okay, now how much is it going to take for us to get this guy or this guy? And you can price yourself out of a market or maybe you overpay somebody to come, but that's why I'm just kind of leery of this. And you look at like, Nico's a great example of this. I mean, you know, $8 million to go to Tennessee.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Jeff Pocaro]

And now he's at UCLA and he's only making one, so, you know, he thought he was going to get a ton of money and he's getting half of what he was getting at Tennessee. He was getting 2,2 million a year for four years and now he's only getting a million. I just, it blows my mind. And people are looking at me out here like with their eyes open. It blows my mind. I mean, we got 20 bucks on the weekend and that was to eat because, yeah, our training table is only up Monday through Friday, so we get 20 bucks. And Derek Ramsey, I'm only got 15. So what a bump we got. Heck, but you know, you couldn't have a job or anything like that. So you don't have any money. Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't fathom walking around campus with a bank account that has 10 figures or, or six fig. Five figures.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Jeff Pocaro]

And they all do it. And like the other day I went, you know, I live right over here off Tate's green. I went into the Malone's at Drake's and the whole, all the, the offensive line was in there and, and they're eating like kings. Yeah, we used to go to Loud and square buffet for 3.99.

[Shannon the Dude]

Somebody bought you, bought you a sandwich or anything.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yes.

[Shannon the Dude]

Now, you know you're breaking a violation.

[Jeff Pocaro]

You know, and how about, did you see where Walford got six players suspended? Have you saw that? And some of it was for less than 80 and you're paying and it was for impermissible. What, what does that mean?

[Shannon the Dude]

It's the Wild west right now it is. And somehow they.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Well, you know what, if that wofford was Ohio State, you think those guys. But we're, it's like we're. See, this is what you can't do. Oh, no, Kentucky. See? Yeah, See, you can't do that. But you can do what you're doing. It's okay. Yeah, that's just wrong.

[Shannon the Dude]

That's the NCAA in a nutshell. It's been like that for a long time. I think that's, that's the frustration with the ncaa. They treat. It could be the same situation, different school, you get different punishments depending on who you are.

[Matt Jones]

We are live at Wild Eggs and Tate's Creek. Kind of the grand opening, the new Wild Egg. We appreciate you guys. Everybody came out to join us. We got lots of giveaways to give away at some point. So hang around for that. We'll take our break. Go back to the phone lines. 859-280-2287. That's the Clark's Puppet Shop phone number 859280-CAT. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back Kentucky Sports Radio live from Wild Eggs in Tate Creek, the new Wild Eggs location out here in Tates Creek. It's a really nice facility. Probably their biggest one of all of them. And the bar here is fantastic. Here you can get your apple cider, mimosa, your bloody Mary's. So it's breakfast brunch and lunch with a bar, Wild Eggs, Ryan Lemon, Jeff Pocoro, Shannon the dude and Super Mario on his birthday today. But how about my boy Chris out here? Chris is turning 50 years old today. Happy birthday, Chris. Yeah, twin. We have our sources, Chris. They call me Scoop Lemon for a reason.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Gotta like his T shirt, don't you?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, T shirt says I still hate Laitner. So happy birthday to Chris. 50th birthday and to Mario as well. We want to give a shout out too to a guy, a friend of ours, Gary Ball. Gary Ball's been doing the scholastic ball report in Lexington for 23 years. He's going to retire but he helped kind of get the high school sports scene back in the forefront here in the Lexington area the last several years and kind of heals. I think we owe him a lot of credit for what he did for high school sports.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Oh he's, he's a guru in that. I mean you ask him about any. That's something that's really hard. You have to really study that.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Jeff Pocaro]

And he knows the schools, he knows the superintendents, he knows athletic directors, coaches. He's just done a fantastic job. You know, he's had some health issues and he's, he just powered right through it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. A guy that single handedly, you know, got that network going, the classic Ball report. He started out on radio, ended up with a TV show out there at kyt. So little tip of the cap to Gary Balls. He rides off into the sunset. 859-280-2287. That's our cars Pumping shop phone number. They're going to announce Kentucky's permanent SEC opponents next week. Tuesday, Tuesday next week. Who do you for? I'll ask all three you guys. Who do you want and who do you think that they're gonna get?

[Shannon the Dude]

Well, what do you mean permanent?

[Matt Jones]

I think football.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Okay. They're gonna have three permanent, six rotating.

[Mario Maitland]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

And I guess Tom Le said this morning that will be re evaluated every four years.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So they will rotate. You may get different. You may get three teams four years and then rotate. Get another three years.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah, I mean I guess Vandy would obviously be the first one you would pick. I, I love the Tennessee rivalry. So I mean even though they, they beat our brains and it feels like every year I'm still like to play them every year and then I don't know like you were talking on the pre show, Missouri looks at Kentucky like we're a rival. I don't look at Missouri as a rival. I would rather play a team like Florida every year. But if we're, we're ranking them in the tiers, the top tier team, middle tier team, bottom tier team. I think Georgia would probably be your, your top tier team.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yes.

[Shannon the Dude]

For your permanent opponent.

[Jeff Pocaro]

I agree.

[Shannon the Dude]

I think South Carolina would probably be your middle and then maybe. I don't know how Vandy's situation works out but possibly Vandy as your bottom tier team or I don't know, maybe, maybe Mississippi State. I'm not really sure on that one.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah, it's. I, I think for sure it's Georgia. I think when you do this you have to look at the other teams rivalries.

[Shannon the Dude]

Right.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Tennessee's got the Tennessee. Florida is a huge game every year. Right. And the Georgia, Florida is a huge Alabama army. You know so those type of things you've got. Okay, that's their Mississippi, Mississippi State.

[Shannon the Dude]

You know Tennessee is going to get Vandy.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Correct, Correct. So I think it's Georgia and then either a combination of these two, either Missouri or South Carolina would be the middle tier and I think Vanderbilt would be the other one that Kentucky gets.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, get Georgia. Both of you guys think it's going to be Georgia. I don't want to.

[Shannon the Dude]

I mean it's got to be somebody. I'd rather be Georgia. Well, I mean it's Georgia, Alabama. I mean it's going to be somebody. One of those two.

[Jeff Pocaro]

You get a.

[Matt Jones]

Who do you think, Mario?

[Mario Maitland]

I want Alabama. I want to switch it up a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

You want Alabama to be our permanent opponent for the next three years?

[Mario Maitland]

I feel like we never really play Alabama though. Like we playing a lot of.

[Shannon the Dude]

They've been disappointing.

[Mario Maitland]

I mean you can switch it up a little bit. Play Alabama.

[Matt Jones]

So if you, if you had to pick your three teams, who would it be?

[Mario Maitland]

Probably go Alabama, Florida for sure.

[Shannon the Dude]

I don't want Alabama.

[Mario Maitland]

Lastly, I'll probably go Mississippi State.

[Jeff Pocaro]

I'd be Arkansas. Mississippi State.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah, let's go.

[Shannon the Dude]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Well I did see this one guy projected kind of what Mario just said. I think he said Georgia, South Carolina and Vandy.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah, that's.

[Matt Jones]

I think that's a strong possibility.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Here's the thing, you know there's, there's 18 teams and you're playing nine every year. So you're going to play every, every team within a two year span and home and away every four years. You'll play. So we've, we've been to Texas A&M1. We played Texas A and M once since they've been in the league.

[Matt Jones]

They've never been here ever.

[Jeff Pocaro]

One time.

[Matt Jones]

They've never been, never been to Lexington.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Yeah, we've already. We're going to play Texas twice. They've only been in the league for two years and we've only played Texas A&M one time in the whole time they've been in the league.

[Matt Jones]

So we're going to take our break, come back. We are live here at Wild Eggs in Lexington. Of course they just got their, just in their pumpkin pie pancakes, their apple cider mimosas. It's breakfast brunch and lunch with the bar. They're also known for their, their other signature breakfasts. It's, it's really good. I mean omelettes, their omelets are, omelets are fantastic. So I appreciate you guys coming in. We'll take our break. We got a pancake flipping contest. DraftKings Odd says I am the favorite by far.

[Shannon the Dude]

We're doing that now.

[Matt Jones]

Right now.

[Jeff Pocaro]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

We're right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

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