Ryan Lemond (2:36)

Well, Shannon has made it known he gets four weeks vacation and he's going to take every single second of that entire four week vacation four differently.

Matt Jones (2:43)

But I'm for it. Listen, if he can get out, look he can he go for it. Yeah.

Drew Franklin (2:48)

He also does them. He doesn't care what's going on in the sports. Like I try to do mine at the most dead time possible so I don't miss anything. It be final four, whatever, I'm going to the beach.

Matt Jones (2:57)

I mean this is oddly a week the NFL starts. College football starts. I saw that. But you know, I wonder if there's something happening with him and cut man. I saw no filters off this week too.

Ryan Lemond (3:08)

Maybe they were off together.

Matt Jones (3:10)

Vacation maybe so. All right, so let's talk UK Toledo. I mean I. That's the big story. Obviously it happened a few days ago but we haven't been on the air since then. Cats win 24 to 16. It was kind of what you might have figured. We won by eight. The spread kept going back and forth between seven and a half to ten. So clearly that's where people thought it would come. I was of the opinion, Ryan, that I thought Kentucky, even though the game was a one score game most of the game, I always felt like Kentucky was kind of in control of the game. It was very frustrating to me. They got up 10 to 2 and and they just couldn't make it a two score game. Turnovers, it was just like, come on, just make it a two score game and they couldn't. And then the second half it felt like we kind of were rolling and then they let them score a couple times at the end, sort of put their guard down. It ends up being probably what I thought was best case scenario which is a win, but a frustrating win and pretty much every leaves everything up for grabs in terms of what people are going to feel about the team next week in Ole Miss.

Ryan Lemond (4:18)

I'm with you. Very, very happy they won. I wasn't going to care if they won by one point. They just needed to had to win that game. They got the win. So I'm happy they won. Not unlike everybody else. Not thrilled with the offense, especially the passing game. You know, it seemed like to be a little off.

Matt Jones (4:30)

Not thrilled. It was bad. But the running game was maybe better than we would have thought.

Ryan Lemond (4:34)

Yeah, the two things we thought going in defense would dominate. They did. Running game and offensive line would dominate and they did. So if they just got a. You know, maybe it's just because it was Calzada's first game. These new receivers, first game, the passing game was just off. But here I asked Drew this question when I came in. They go to Macklin early in the game, like maybe first possession, he makes a great catch down the right side and then he disappears. He's a non factor.

Matt Jones (4:57)

I. There were. I was very happy with the defense, by the way. I think I saw we were maybe fourth in the country like in week one and getting to the quarterback.

Ryan Lemond (5:06)

Wow.

Matt Jones (5:06)

Like a crazy high number. We also were like third from last in. In. In QBR or something. So like we. It all depends on what you want to see. Yeah, I mean there was some really positive stuff and then there was a passing game that, you know, I. I don't know what to say about. But let's. Let's drew your overall takeaway.

Drew Franklin (5:25)

My overall takeaway is thank God for that 79 yard run in the fourth quarter because I was pretty disappointed like everyone else for three quarters. What they had. What was it, 10 to two at the start of the fourth?

Ryan Lemond (5:34)

It was.

Drew Franklin (5:35)

And your one touchdown. You needed an interception to set you up at the 29. So if you had talked to me in between third and fourth quarters, I was about as disappointed as you could be. Now the run game really got going. They leaned on them more. Got it going in that 79 yard run. Padded the stats, but I was leaving the stadium. I said I would be happy with a win no matter what. I lied a little bit. I was pretty.

Matt Jones (5:56)

You were. So you were disappointed? Just.

Drew Franklin (5:57)

I mean, it's one game. I don't want to judge. Someone reminded me yesterday, last year Old Dominion almost beat South Carolina in week one. And South Carolina goes on, has a great year.

Matt Jones (6:05)

So last year we crush Ohio.

Drew Franklin (6:07)

There can be overreactions, but I wanted a little more out of Kazod in the offense, even though it was week one.

Matt Jones (6:14)

Yeah, I think that's fair. So let's quickly go through the. Good. Good. I thought defensive line was great. I think we have like, I think we legitimately have an SEC defensive line which we. Which we haven't really had in the last few years. Offensive line not great. I think good, like much improved. I don't know if Bush Hamden's. This will be better than the big blue wall. Maybe he should have been careful about that. But I think it's still. It's still Certainly good enough. You know, quarterback not good. But I will say I had some people, you may have heard me on the post game show say I wish somebody would look and see how the wide receivers were. Had multiple people who know football watch the, watch the film because they have the all 22 available on ESPN plus said our receivers never open. Like never open now. You know, one person said, look, the quarterback's got to throw them open sometime. Fair enough. But like there was some people writing me going our receivers may be a real problem. Like not able to get any separation against the, against the SEC defensive backs. You throw in a quarterback that I don't think is exactly Peyton Manning and so now you might start to get concerned about the pass.

Ryan Lemond (7:27)

That's good to hear you say that because just a fan. Yeah. Well, to me I put all the blame was on Calzada.

Matt Jones (7:32)

I felt like whoever it's on, it's the same result.

Ryan Lemond (7:35)

Yeah, I felt like Calzada was just waiting a second too slow. Just get rid of. Get rid of it a little quicker, a little sooner. But maybe he couldn't maybe because the receivers were not open.

Matt Jones (7:43)

But part of me is like, okay, if it was Calzada, that's a fixable. Like it's one person has to fix their job or you got another guy. If it's a whole set of receivers. Drew, it's hard for me to figure now you can say, and I think this is correct, Toledo apparently has two guys in their secondary that will play, that will get drafted in the NFL.

Ryan Lemond (8:02)

Right.

Matt Jones (8:02)

They have like a third and fifth round. So that's good, I guess. But then there's a whole lot of SEC teams that have guys in their secondary. They're going to get drafted in the NFL.

Drew Franklin (8:11)

So if you had told me before that game three receivers caught a pass and it was like Fred Ferrier Gilmore then I think Macklin had one. I mean Law. I thought they were going to be feeding the ball over and over, just getting it to them however they could. He barely touched it. I got excited early. I thought Hester's down the sideline was a catch from my seat. I still say it's a catch and that kind of thought they'd get him going. But then they're only one other big shot fumbled.

Matt Jones (8:35)

So two of your great throw, by the way. I mean that was a great throw by him. The throw to the end zone that ended up being offensive pass interference was. It was. It was a good throw. They were however, like 1 for 14 on throws longer than 10 yards. Which is not, you know, and that one ended up in a fumble.

Drew Franklin (8:51)

So he overthrew some guys.

Matt Jones (8:53)

So like that. So those are, those are concerning stats. But you win. That was the most important thing. And now Ole Miss comes. I had the sense in the post game show, I. My general belief is the mood of the fan base has not changed one way or the other. It didn't get better, it didn't get worse. It's kind of like everybody's in a holding pattern and then says, tell me, talk to me on Saturday. Would you agree with that?

Ryan Lemond (9:20)

I would agree with that. I'm kind of in the same boat, you know, we'll see what this team is really made of, make some adjustments. Maybe Calzada plays better when you got Ole Miss coming into town. You know, While we're talking about this though, the tight ends, We've been begging for the tight ends to be more involved. For 25 years, our two leading receivers were two tight ends.

Matt Jones (9:37)

Yeah, I wanted them to be more involved. I didn't particularly want us to however, only complete five passes to the wide receiver the whole game. That's. I also have to say, I mean I'm going to be real. I don't understand Bush Hamden. I just, I don't understand his play calling. I don't really understand what the goal is of the offense is at any given point. You know, you, you're run, you're. I keep getting told we're going to establish the running game, then we do. And then like on those two possessions where we're on the other side of midfield, we go throw six out of seven passes, none of which are complete. To me that was what was a one score game. We needed to get it to be a two score game. I don't. He, I feel like he passes when I think he should run, he runs when I think he should pass. He may just have opposite brain. To me, maybe that's positive, but so far I haven't seen it.

Drew Franklin (10:28)

My biggest complaint with him is how in the world do you take a safety that. Who calls that play the. They're in the pistol and run the RPO. Calzada 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage just hung him out to drive there. You don't even call that to put him in that spot. But that was my biggest complaint with him. Yeah, just line up, run between the tackles and get a few yards, get some cushion.

Matt Jones (10:48)

There's a lot of people very, that were very angry. I mean there's no way should, should have handed the Ball off. But at the same time, why put him in a position where he can make a bad decision decision and get. And get in trouble.

Ryan Lemond (10:59)

So do you think they did where it didn't show their hand with Ole Miss coming in? They tried to play a little conservative.

Matt Jones (11:04)

I don't believe that. I mean, if they did, that's. If they did, I would say that's insanely stupid because that team could have beat you. Yeah, right.

Drew Franklin (11:11)

It was 10 to 2.

Matt Jones (11:11)

It was 10. Yeah. I mean, if they were quote, unquote holding things until Ole Miss, then y' all are a lot cockier than I would have been because we could have lost that game. I mean, Toledo, I. I knew they were talented. We talked about, like, why do people say. I didn't realize. In sort of getting some of my prep for our NFL show, I didn't realize Toledo has five guys on that roster projected to be drafted. Drafted. Just for the record, we have one now. A lot of our other guys are better than their guys. They have a lot of dudes. I mean, they have a guy in the offensive line that's supposed to be a second round pick. I mean, they, you know, so. So I don't. I hope we didn't take that for granted.

Drew Franklin (11:51)

No, I mean, maybe if you were hiding something early, but you would have gone to the deep, to the playbook as that game went on. I mean, it was a touchdown game in the fourth quarter, so of course you're gonna pull out more stops to get some points on the board.

Matt Jones (12:02)

So let's talk about some people that were good. Alex Safari, he was great. Like the dude that's projected to be picked in the draft.

Ryan Lemond (12:08)

He was great. He was everywhere, man. He's. That guy was just. Every time there was a play, you look up and he's getting off the bottom of the pile. So, yeah, I think we expect a superstar season from him.

Matt Jones (12:16)

Is it Stephen Sachem? Soul.

Drew Franklin (12:18)

Sack Em Souls?

Ryan Lemond (12:19)

Sack Em Souls.

Matt Jones (12:20)

Where'd we get that name?

Drew Franklin (12:22)

They've been calling him that since he set foot on campus. So I don't know. But he. He showed us on Saturday why he has that nickname. Two Strip Sex.

Matt Jones (12:29)

That does feel like someone would call into this show and give, though.

Ryan Lemond (12:33)

Well, let's take credit for it.

Matt Jones (12:34)

We should. Well, we should call them Sack Em Souls. But he was great. I mean, he. And I think is. Even though they got three sacks, I think they got a lot of pressure even when it didn't show up. Like, I thought the defensive line and just the pass rush in general Was great. Brad White. You know, I know last year was a little bit of a step back, but generally speaking I'm good with Brad White as defensive coordinator as long as he wants to be. I feel like he, he always has a game plan that at least has you prepared.

Ryan Lemond (13:01)

And it seems like that was the game. I can't remember a game where we had that much pressure on the quarterback. They were brought all kinds of pressure all game long on that Toledo Heisman candidate quarterback.

Matt Jones (13:10)

Like yeah, I think that hurt his.

Drew Franklin (13:13)

Heisman by the way.

Matt Jones (13:14)

He didn't look like a Heisman.

Ryan Lemond (13:15)

No, he didn't. I mean at least Heisman odds.

Drew Franklin (13:17)

Whoever said that I think might have been reaching a little bit.

Matt Jones (13:20)

Yeah, he was the same guy who said that Lamar Wilkerson was going to Kentucky. Did you a running back gotta like them, right? The two stars.

Drew Franklin (13:29)

I was worried for a while. I mean at halftime they had 20 rushes for 60 yards, 3 yards of carry. When the Toledo defensive line wasn't that intimidating. So I was worried. But they got it going. Can't be critical. It's a four quarter game. In the fourth quarter they found found it. I doubt I was wrong. Like I said that did a lot of work for me moving forward.

Matt Jones (13:48)

I will say I was positive about them because I judge these guys by what happens when the first hand gets on them. And I thought they were pretty good at getting another yard or two after the first hand gets on them. You know, the best of all time. We're like Chris and Benny at that. They're not on that level but I still feel like those are guys who can like on third one, third and two. We won't get stopped at the line of scrimmage over.

Ryan Lemond (14:10)

Yeah, they're definitely get that extra yard after they take that first hit. And I just like the fact we got two of them just kind of rotate them. We got fresh legs back there most of the game. So I, I'm really excited about these two guys can do the rest of the season.

Drew Franklin (14:19)

They're running hard too. Yeah, especially he almost need to be a little more patient. He was energetic, bouncing off everything in there.

Matt Jones (14:25)

So overall grade the game.

Ryan Lemond (14:29)

You go first, Drew.

Matt Jones (14:30)

No, me. I looked at you.

Ryan Lemond (14:32)

Okay. I'm gonna give him a B. You can give him a B. I'm B. Yeah. Defense probably an A. Offense probably a C. So I'm gonna.

Matt Jones (14:40)

Give him a B. Okay.

Ryan Lemond (14:41)

Yeah.

Drew Franklin (14:43)

C plus. I'll go B minus. I'll be positive.

Matt Jones (14:45)

After a three day weekend I'm going B minus. I. I can't give him a solid B. And I the only reason I'm not going to go C plus is I do think we have a chance to have a really, really good defensive line and that could be big for us against some of these SEC teams. You know, and we had a couple times too. We, we got a little unlucky. We got a couple strip sacks that we just didn't recover the ball. And to me, once you get a strip sack, you should recover that like 60 or 70% of the time because you got a guy back in the backfield. We didn't. That's unlucky.

Drew Franklin (15:18)

Wasn't scoring territory.

Matt Jones (15:20)

Was in scoring territory. Yeah. So you know, I still be modest. We won. That was the thing. I I was not it was not a given to me we were going to win that game. So I'm glad we did.

Drew Franklin (15:32)

After that off season. This isn't the time to be picky. Sure, we we have more questions right now than we probably want, but at least they won and moved.

Matt Jones (15:39)

At least they won. Now we're going to take a break. When we come back, we have to talk about the atmosphere. There were more comments in my text machine about the atmosphere than the game. I was not there. Drew was. Ryan, were you there?

Ryan Lemond (15:50)

No, I didn't go.

Matt Jones (15:51)

So I want to hear what Drew has to say. But then we just got to talk about because it's always been an issue. But it feels like it was more of an issue Saturday than I've heard in a long time. We'll deal with it right after this.

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Matt Jones (17:03)

Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio 859-280-2287. We got people here from Greenup County. We got Lexington, Frankfurt and Louisville all in here today.

Ryan Lemond (17:15)

Already had a great crowd here for the game on Saturday. Good pre game crowd for breakfast. It was kind of fun just to get. Feel that feeling. You can get that true blue feeling.

Matt Jones (17:23)

Good pregame crowd, good post game crowd. To those of you that came post game, y' all came at once and there was a lot of people and we got a little, we got a little backed up. So I apologize for people who had to wait. We. We've decided, having seen that we're gonna bring in. Everybody's ordering the burgers, which is good, but they take a little longer. So we're gonna bring in another. We're gonna bring in another grill.

Ryan Lemond (17:43)

Nice.

Matt Jones (17:43)

Okay, so we'll have, we'll be cooking them out maybe out front and in the back.

Ryan Lemond (17:48)

That'd be kind of cool.

Matt Jones (17:49)

Just because you, you know, people. Everybody's ordering the new burgers, which is great, but they just take a little longer. So we gotta add some.

Drew Franklin (17:56)

Our kitchen is as big as it is.

Matt Jones (17:57)

Yeah. What are you gonna do?

Drew Franklin (17:57)

Can't do much better.

Matt Jones (17:58)

Can't do a lot about it. 859280, 2287 Text Machine. 772-774-5254. One person, right, still drives me crazy that we snap the ball with 3 seconds left left on the play clock. You're playing a great team. Why not runs or playing a team? You're great. Better than. Why not play some tempo? I, I agree with that, but that's just. I, I think we're barking. That's never gonna happen. I mean, we're going to always be waiting till the last second.

Ryan Lemond (18:24)

And you know, and I, I don't know this, but I think that's just Stoops. Where he wants to play, he didn't want to play tempo.

Matt Jones (18:29)

It is Stoops, but like there, it's just, it's basic math. When you play teams, you're better than you want as many plays as possible. So you take away the randomness. Like when we play Georgia, we'd like to have as fewer plays as possible. The theory is the more plays we have, the more chance for them being better, to showcase itself. But when we're playing a team, we're better than. We want as many plays as possible. Because the theory is over time, the better team Will win and the randomness will take it away. And they don't believe that I'm good with what they do. Like against Ole Miss, I want them to slow it down. The more plays we have, the better chance we lose. But against Toledo, Drew, we should move. We should be doing as many plays as possible because we're better than them.

Drew Franklin (19:09)

Different Sport, but the 2015 Final Four not teach us anything. Kentucky basketball, Wisconsin basketball. Possessions, more car.

Matt Jones (19:16)

Perfect example Things. One of the things. One of the reasons Cal would always scream push it is he knew that the more possessions you get, the better. Now, sometimes they got away from that. Like in 2015. Mark Pope, same thing. The worse the team, the faster we play. When he, you know, when we played Florida, he made the decision our best chance is we. Is to just. We can shoot threes more. So let's put them as many of them up as we can. We seem to go against our strength by playing against a team that's worse than us and then slowing it down.

Drew Franklin (19:45)

I just. Where you said it, though, I don't. Stoops and tempo just don't go together. It's not going to happen. Field position. Let my defense rest.

Matt Jones (19:52)

Yeah. All right. Let's talk about atmosphere. I got more texts and comments about atmosphere than ever. The thing. First of all, decent crowd, Drew, wouldn't you say? Considering. I mean, I didn't know if it would be like that. I actually thought the crowd was pretty good. Right.

Drew Franklin (20:07)

Yeah. I didn't do much tailgating, but in my direct walk to the press box, great tailgating scene.

Matt Jones (20:12)

It was. And it was great here, so, I mean, I think people were into it. I was told music was particularly awful. Rick with love. Okay. Are you gonna hear this? With love, Rick. I'm listening, but with love. Are you really listening? With love, Always. Okay. I was told it sounded like Rick was running the ox cord at the game.

Ryan Lemond (20:33)

What's wrong with that?

Matt Jones (20:34)

Well, I mean, nothing's wrong with that for you, but maybe for everybody else, they want a little bit more mojo. I heard particularly awful. And they didn't play Grove street, which why did we take away the one thing that we had? Drew, you were there. And my. Is that. Are those complaints valid?

Drew Franklin (20:51)

They're very valid. In the press box. We can't hear very well, but we can at least know kind of the song that's out there. And before we even heard a lot of complaints. This is early in the game, we were joking about how it is hard for the DJ with young verse old to find a good song. They managed to play songs that young didn't want to hear and that old.

Matt Jones (21:08)

Didn'T want to hear.

Drew Franklin (21:09)

No one wanted to hear those songs. I was getting messages in the second half from all over the stadium, including one guy who's been to every game for a long time, and he said, I have the message. Put it right here. This is the worst music I've heard in my entire life in Commonwealth Stadium. What they were doing there then the Grove street thing, that has to be intentional.

Matt Jones (21:26)

It has to be intentional, and that's the one. Okay, so whether people liked it or not, now you have little old ladies in the crowd going, play the party song. Like the part. Like, it's. Everyone has accepted that song. Now, why would you stop it? Why?

Drew Franklin (21:41)

That atmosphere is best. I could tell from the press box, and I know a lot of it was the play on the field.

Matt Jones (21:46)

That's part of it.

Drew Franklin (21:47)

That. That looked like we went back 15 years for atmosphere.

Matt Jones (21:50)

I. I agree.

Drew Franklin (21:51)

I thought we were in, like, 2009, 2010 again.

Matt Jones (21:54)

We had a flag that they must have gotten out of my car. It had strands ripped on it like it was. It was. It was a ragged old flag. Like, how do you not. It's game one. How do you not have a flag that doesn't have a rip down?

Ryan Lemond (22:07)

And of all the flags that was ripped, it was the Kentucky flag.

Matt Jones (22:10)

Like, you couldn't r. Tennessee flag. Like, why. Why is it our flag that was ripped?

Ryan Lemond (22:14)

We could probably get Grove street party played again, but it's going to take a whole lot of money.

Matt Jones (22:20)

Now that's a reason not to play. That hurt. It did hurt.

Ryan Lemond (22:26)

I've waited there Saturday to play.

Matt Jones (22:28)

Here's the problem. You all laugh at this, and that encourages me. He sees the. He sees the people. And. And we know it's because no one laughed at home. No one laughed. See, Mario's like, what are you doing, Mario? We are trying to move him to not be the dorkiest old man. Now, this is. You're laughing at him. That's the problem. You encourage him.

Drew Franklin (22:52)

This is when I laugh, when he can't stop laughing at himself.

Ryan Lemond (22:56)

It's a Saturday night to tell that joke.

Matt Jones (22:58)

I know. No, you did. Yes.

Ryan Lemond (23:00)

I've kept it in my pocket till. Since Saturday night.

Matt Jones (23:04)

All right.

Ryan Lemond (23:05)

I think it went over great.

Matt Jones (23:07)

I would disagree. All right, so. But back to my point, it is a. We have a hard enough time here getting atmosphere going for a variety of reasons, including our sound system. Came out of my 89 Honda that I drove in high school. Like, we have the worst. Frederick Douglass has a better sound system than uk, And I've been told there's nothing they can do about it without it paying a bajillion dollars. And they don't. It's hard for me to believe, but literally, you can hear the feedback coming through it. It's awful. But even beyond that, can we not get someone there with some connection to creating an atmosphere? They've done better at basketball. It's still not great, but it used to be bad at basketball. They've done better at it, right?

Drew Franklin (23:54)

They have. And this is one of the things we're laughing at is imagine you're this college kid at your first game. You're getting excited, and the biggest moments are 2.

Matt Jones (24:02)

2.

Drew Franklin (24:02)

Like, we just have a coal whistle is like our rallying cry, which is.

Matt Jones (24:06)

It's all, go down dooms walk. I mean, I like that song, but that's not. You should not be playing at a football game.

Drew Franklin (24:13)

I love a slobber fries and a bottle of ski. But, like, I don't understand the connection. And we've done it for seven years now.

Ryan Lemond (24:19)

What's disappointed me, I felt like they had actually made some improvements.

Matt Jones (24:22)

I did, too, but video were nice.

Ryan Lemond (24:25)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (24:25)

It's just so bad. And look, the play on the field is part of it. I know that that's part of it. But, like, third quarter, it's the one thing everybody wants. They have to bring that back. I mean, they have to, right? I was told that someone at uk and they gave me a name. I'm not gonna say who, but somebody pretty high up was like, we need to get back to our Kentucky roots. No, no. I love music from Kentucky more than anyone. No, not at a football game. It's a party. It's not a. It's not a banjo. We'll be right back. This is why I thought you were doing the. The DJing Rick, because, like, this was be what they would play, right? Cold.

Ryan Lemond (25:06)

This is Coldplay.

Matt Jones (25:06)

I know it's Coldplay. That's what I'm saying. You shouldn't play Coldplay at a. At a UK football game. But this is what, like, you said they played Limp Bizkit.

Drew Franklin (25:15)

Yeah, it's my favorite part of the whole game. Honestly. You could see people looking around like, who wants to hear Lip Biscuit? That's what I meant. Like, the young verse. Old can be hard. I understand that. Like, young kids probably don't want to hear tnt, but, you know, that's a big stadium, so I get it. No one wanted to hear a Limp Bizkit, Nobody.

Matt Jones (25:32)

I think TNT is not perfect, but, like, it's okay. Yeah, I'm excusing tnt, but like, you can't. Yeah, you can't do Limp Bizkit.

Drew Franklin (25:41)

I mean, that captured nobody.

Matt Jones (25:43)

Yeah, I'm with you. I don't totally. I don't know what they're trying to accomplish. They got to fix it, though. We got Ole Miss coming in. We need to, you know, we need to have a heck of an atmosphere. That's our one, our biggest advantage going into that game should be the atmosphere. Now. Mark Stoops had his postgame show last night or his Monday night. His coaches show pretty uneventful and, and, and not very exciting, except somebody called in clearly joke, like, clearly trying to be funny. And let me just say, I, I don't like when people try to be funny. And like a, like I could hear in his voice a thing that would often make me want to hang up on it. Right. I could hear it in the guy's voice, the caller. But in the call, he asked Stoops if he was motivated. And you could see on Mark's face in the video that he wanted to find the kid and ring his neck. You could just see it. You could see in his face. He was like, if I see you out somewhere, it's oh. But he kind of, like, tried. He was like, I'm always motivated. And he didn't like, now again, Drew, I'm of the belief, man. Just roll with it. The wildcat, during the catwalk held a sign that said motivated. And it had this, the drawing, like, I thought that was great. I don't know if he got in trouble when we posted it. I hope he didn't, but I thought that was kind of cool. Like, embrace it. But it is clear Mark Stoops is not having the motivated thing at all. Last night, that was obvious.

Drew Franklin (27:26)

Yeah. That call, you could tell he was pretty antagonistic with it. And Stoops, his tone immediately changed. And you know, if they don't win many games this year, I think he's just going to get a little more of the motivate, motivation needling that people are kind of already doing because they know it, they know it. Irksome.

Matt Jones (27:42)

You can take away the power of it. If he was just like, you're exactly right. Like, he could have recreated the pose right. And he could have said, I'm motivated. Bring me one of those T shirts. Let's go. I'm ready. Like it. Shouldn't you do that? Shouldn't you do that if you were.

Ryan Lemond (27:58)

Him, of course you should have done that. Just kind of lean into it. Make it part of your. Your Persona this whole season, man. You know, be the motivated guy. Because we all would. We all would rally around it, I think, for sure.

Matt Jones (28:08)

It's not like he's calling him something awful, you know, if he was, like, being a real jerk, that. If it was something terrible. But motivated is a good word, isn't it? Grateful.

Drew Franklin (28:16)

Everyone should. Motivated.

Matt Jones (28:18)

Beautiful.

Drew Franklin (28:19)

Like, now we're getting into Pope.

Matt Jones (28:20)

Yeah, we should get all those extraordinary special elite, so.

Drew Franklin (28:26)

But he didn't like that.

Matt Jones (28:27)

Very obvious he didn't like that. Now, Lane Kiffin said in his press conference yesterday, Tucky's very well coached. They came out and surprised us last year, and he had some line like, we're going to have to surprise them back. And as soon as he said it, I was like, oh, no. Oh, boy. Oh, no, no. I think he had me. I did. It made me nervous. I'm not gonna lie. When he was. Because, like, clearly that loss bothered. I mean, as it should have. It kept them out of the playoff. If we. If they beat us, they're in the playoff. So if I'm an Ole Miss fan, that was one of the worst losses I've had in a decade. So they're clearly going to want to prove a point.

Drew Franklin (29:02)

And the way it happened, Stoops broke character and went for it on 4th and 7 with a 63 yard. Even. Even Kentucky fans were like, what in the world did Mark Stoops just do? So I think that adds to it. I've even heard Kiffin, after that game, kind of saw. Mark was like, what was that like? Where that come from? Mark, that's. That's not you.

Matt Jones (29:19)

I don't think I've ever been more shocked by a play than that one. When they lined up, I assumed they were just trying to draw him off sides. And then when he threw it deep and then he caught it, I was in the stadium, I lost it. I mean, I was jumping on people I didn't know who weren't even fans of Kentucky, and. But I think they saw the spontaneous joy so much, they just let me do it. Ryan. It was crazy that that worked.

Ryan Lemond (29:46)

That and it was. And it is so out of Stoop's character. But if you're going to be successful in the sec, you've got to take chances. Like, you've got to do things like that. He needs to do more of that.

Drew Franklin (29:54)

And then adding to it, we won by recovering a Fumble in the end zone after that play. Like that wasn't even the touchdown that set up. We fumbled on the. So it's just.

Matt Jones (30:01)

And they missed.

Drew Franklin (30:02)

If you're going to be mad about missing the playoff. Losing on a six two, three yard bomb, then recovering a fumble in the end zone.

Matt Jones (30:07)

And they missed a little short field goal. They had a little short field goal to tie the game. And they. And he hooked it left.

Drew Franklin (30:12)

So Kiffin hadn't forgotten that one.

Matt Jones (30:13)

Yeah. Who's up net first? Got Jerry up first. Jerry, of course, leads with Jerry. Yes. All right, Jerry, how this is. Go ahead.

Drew Franklin (30:25)

Hey, man.

Caller (30:27)

Well, you're right about the environment, but that's why I don't like those 1230 games is. I mean this, the stadium was a little flat, but it's that those 1230. That's why I don't like those 1230 games. It's always flat. And I was worried that Stoop's team would be flat too, but they weren't. Which was they won the game. But, but the, you know, the big thing is they, they did win a game they very easily could have lost against Lido. But the defense, I, I, they had an A going to that last drive because they deliver that knockout blow.

Matt Jones (31:02)

I agree with that. I think that's fair.

Caller (31:04)

And, and then you. Ole Miss runs that tempo too. And they didn't defend it very well. I mean, Ole Miss, I mean, Grant, they were playing a directional school. That sucks. But they, but they scored in their first two plays.

Matt Jones (31:18)

Yeah. I appreciate the call. I might just cut you off there. I appreciate the call. Jerry's right. I mean, if you want to be worried more than you already are. Toledo goes tempo and goes 95 yards over the course of like eight or nine plays. Ole Miss will go tempo the entire game. And so we're going to have to figure out what to do about that. Because that was the moment Toledo did that. Their coach is probably like, why didn't we do this the whole game? Now again, we were sitting back and just trying to kill clock. So maybe if it wasn't the end of the game, that drive doesn't happen. But that wasn't ideal at all. No.

Drew Franklin (31:50)

And you shouldn't let up. But I do wonder if they let up a little bit, knowing the game was in hand there. And you're right about Ole Miss. They're not just a little bit. They're number one in tempo every year. They're not kind of tempo. They are tempo now.

Matt Jones (32:01)

The quarterback's not as good as what.

Drew Franklin (32:03)

They had two interceptions.

Matt Jones (32:05)

Interceptions. Speaking of. Speaking of last year, Barry and Brown, first of all, I got robbed on that. Like, they got completely robbed. I don't know. I don't know how they overturned that. He had five catches, 25 yards. So it was. A lot of them were very short. But that play, in and of itself was pretty amazing.

Ryan Lemond (32:23)

I was watching when that happened. Yeah, I thought for sure he was in the end zone, and I felt excited for him to get that moment. You know, him and Dane both get a touchdown in their first game. Their new team would have been awesome.

Matt Jones (32:32)

You know, I mean, we both drew. We both think it'd be great for Dane to be on the team. You were pretty adamant that you felt like Barian needed to be somewhere else. When you watched him have that game with lsu, was there a part of you that said, man, I just watched a group of guys not get open. It'd be nice to have him this year. Did you think that at all?

Drew Franklin (32:51)

No, because it wasn't really personal to him. It was just that whole room needed a reset, and he was kind of the bigger reason of that. I was actually kind of excited for him. It was really the whole Baron Brown experience in the. No. Their first series, I think he had an illegal motion penalty.

Matt Jones (33:05)

I think he moved.

Drew Franklin (33:07)

And I even wrote on that penalty. I said, just wait, he's going to do something spectacular later in the game, because that's what he does. Then that catch came. Then his final stats were about what very similar they were last year. So it was really the whole Barry on experience.

Matt Jones (33:19)

That's a good way of putting it. It really was the Baryon experience. The illegal motion penalty had my text machine just lighting up. People going, see, here we go. And then he makes that catch and people ride. Man, it'd be nice to have a guy like that. Like he. But, you know, they're not. They don't even have any return. They didn't have him returning kick.

Ryan Lemond (33:36)

That surprised me.

Matt Jones (33:37)

That's. That. That surprised me.

Caller (33:38)

Yes.

Matt Jones (33:38)

He was preseason all American in a couple places in kick returning. They didn't even have him returning kick.

Ryan Lemond (33:44)

I thought he'd get more playing time doing that than he would maybe at receiver. Exact opposite. But, you know, we mentioned Macklin earlier. He. I thought he was gonna be the go to guy. He catches that one ball and then, like, I don't think he was targeted the rest of the game.

Matt Jones (33:56)

Macklin, Macklin and Law combined for one catch.

Ryan Lemond (34:00)

That can't happen.

Matt Jones (34:00)

That's supposed to be our two best receivers. They combine for one catch. That's not good.

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Nope.

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Matt Jones (35:41)

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287. Text Machine 772-774-5254 A couple things we've got if you're in Bowling Green show Thursday at the Mint to start the NFL season. So the Mint in Bowling Green. We will be down there on Thursday. We do. We've done that the last couple years. Friday is our big Country Boy show before the first big home game against Ole Miss. We're at Country Boy in Georgetown. For those of you that have never been to that show, I think it's probably one of the most fun shows we've done and it has been argued that Kentucky football has been on a downward slide since the last time Ryan Lemon did a motivational speech. I'm making you bring it back Friday. Okay, country boy, you haven't done it in two and a half years. And let's be honest, we haven't won an important home game in two and a half years. It's time for you to do it. And I have. I can't promise it, but I have in the works the possibility of somebody that could make that really, really cool. I'm not promising it, but I'm just saying if you're there Friday, there's a chance that I think. But either way, they'll definitely get the speech, because I just told you. I'm just telling you about it.

Ryan Lemond (36:45)

So I have many days to prepare.

Matt Jones (36:47)

Barry Brown, by the way, also, you mentioned the full experience. He also got an argument with his head coach during the game that got caught on telev. Perfect Barry and Brown game. Yep.

Drew Franklin (36:56)

But I will say, being a little critical of him, that was definitely a catch in a spectacular.

Matt Jones (37:01)

He got robbed. If the rule is when you cross the plane, you score. I don't understand why it's different. When then way after you score, you. You. You drop the ball. I know that's a rule about a catch in the NFL. I get it. But when you cross the goal line, that's supposed to be different. The play's dead. So think about how many times you watch a football game. The guy jumps up and he crosses it with the ball. Then he might fumble it and it's still a touchdown. Why is it different right there? That doesn't make any sense to me.

Drew Franklin (37:27)

Even with the finish the catch rule, I thought he still finished.

Ryan Lemond (37:30)

I did, too.

Drew Franklin (37:30)

He ended up almost in the stands, but I still thought he maintained. Maintained control.

Matt Jones (37:35)

I don't like that rule at all. Non sports thing. Really quick, somebody needs to let me know what the. Excuse my language. What the hell's going on in London, Kentucky? All right. You know, for y' all that don't know, I don't know either. But just get on tick tock and put. London, Kentucky. I mean, it is. There is wild stuff. I saw a video last night of people trying to fight each other in the parking lot. Like, like. All I know is the mayor and the city council seem to be on opposite sides. But I thought, like, people didn't like the mayor, but now it seems like. It seems like the town's, like, divided in half. Like, half the town is on the mayor's side, half the Town is on the city council side. It has something to do with that time the guy got killed because he went to the barn to get whatever. But it seems like the people that are angry now, that's not even what they're angry about. People are calling each other names, I guess. They're having an impeachment hearing tomorrow morning that is being streamed live. They're expecting like hundreds of thousands of people to watch live. It's like captivated the country. And even though it's only an hour from where I grew up, it. I don't really know what's going on, do you?

Ryan Lemond (38:42)

Yeah, it all goes back to that with the. The weed eater thing. Right.

Matt Jones (38:46)

But I think it started with that and it's morphed into something else.

Ryan Lemond (38:49)

Okay.

Matt Jones (38:49)

I don't think it's about. Because that was the cat, like the sheriff or. Again, there are so many characters, it feels like I need a Dr. I need a outline. But all I know is I get on Tick Tock and it is just people screaming at each other but no context of what's happening.

Drew Franklin (39:07)

Drew, I'm with you. It seems much bigger on Tick Tock than it does around town. I've not heard one peep about it outside of Tick Tock. But there's a. A little floating head girl that. She's got all the. All the hot gossip and I keep up with everything she says.

Matt Jones (39:19)

There's like some brothers that people don't like. And then there's a woman that was on the city council and it felt like I saw her throw a rolling pin at somebody.

Drew Franklin (39:27)

Rolling pin.

Matt Jones (39:28)

Maybe it wasn't a rolling pin, but it's just. I would like to know because everybody's like, tomorrow is going to be the craziest day in the history of local government. And I don't what's happening. And I go, well, it's during the show. I thought about taking the show there and doing it, but, like, we'd have to be outside and I don't know.

Ryan Lemond (39:47)

What'S going to happen and have a live reporter inside reporting on what's going on in there.

Matt Jones (39:50)

I'll tell you what. Can I give you the assignment of between now and tomorrow trying to at least give us the cast of characters.

Ryan Lemond (39:57)

Okay, come up with the cast of characters.

Matt Jones (39:58)

Do you have Tik Tok?

Ryan Lemond (39:59)

I do not.

Matt Jones (40:02)

That's going to make it a little hard for you to figure it out.

Ryan Lemond (40:04)

Fault I can.

Matt Jones (40:05)

But if you have one of your friends, though, don't be biased. Don't. Because they might say it's this person. We need an unbiased. Because on Tick Tock, opinions are split about who's right.

Ryan Lemond (40:15)

Can I call Reed Shepherd? Would he know what's going on?

Drew Franklin (40:17)

Or maybe if you're in London and know, you should just text Ryan.

Matt Jones (40:20)

Yeah.

Drew Franklin (40:20)

And they can compare all the notes.

Matt Jones (40:22)

Yeah. Either way, I'd like to know. Because on Tick Tock, there was a rolling pin.

Ryan Lemond (40:26)

A rolling pin was thrown.

Matt Jones (40:28)

There was a great. There's a great video online and. And some of the people, the things they're screaming are not good. And I'm not taking up for anybody because I don't know if the people. What they're saying about each other is correct. But what I did note is there were people yelling at each other, going, wait, I'll. Blah, blah, blah. And there were just some police officers just watching. Like, they're just watching. And these people are yelling at each other and they're. And the police officers just like, well, hope everybody has a good day. One guy's just trying to do his delivery. Like, he's walking through him, like, with a. With a box. It's great. It's good stuff. All right, who's next? Adam is up next. Adam. Go ahead, Adam.

Caller (41:09)

Hey, what's up, guys? I. I don't know who your guy at UK is, but tell them that I don't know what going back to Kentucky football atmosphere means, but we don't need any more money.

Matt Jones (41:21)

You know, I think what they said, what I was told is they said we want everything in the stadium to reflect, like, the music to reflect Kentucky, which is just a horrible idea because while I love Kentucky music, it's not football music. Right. It's like picking and grinning music. It's not. And that's not what you play. Like, Mario's rolling his eyes right now. Like, I love Tom T. Hall, but I don't want to hear ravishing Ruby when we're driving down trying to score a touchdown. I just don't think. I think that's the thought. Right.

Caller (41:54)

Right. Well, to. To be more positive about the. Jerry said that, you know, we could have easily lost that game. We also could have easily blown them out. I mean, that's a lot of points on the.

Matt Jones (42:06)

On.

Caller (42:06)

On the field. And just to. Going into next week, if. If the offense looked bad, but here's some. Zero sacks.

Matt Jones (42:17)

Yes.

Caller (42:17)

Only three penalties.

Matt Jones (42:19)

Yep.

Caller (42:20)

Third down conversion. Much better than last year.

Matt Jones (42:22)

Correct.

Caller (42:23)

And then you talk about all the lost points on the field. You know, if Rodriguez doesn't fumble that ball in the red zone, we score there and how many times did we get the ball near midfield and then we didn't turn, we didn't do anything with.

Matt Jones (42:37)

I think totally agree with you. I think if you were to say like just quality of play that was probably a two touchdown win, that mistakes we made made it an eight point game, would you agree with that?

Caller (42:51)

Yeah, I totally think so. I think they left a lot of points on the field that could have really blown that game open and unfortunately. Did you ever feel like we were going to lose that game?

Matt Jones (43:03)

No, I did. I didn't either and I appreciate the call. I didn't either. I never felt like we were going to lose. And so that's part of the reason I didn't have a terrible feeling about the game is I didn't ever really think we were to going moments into.

Drew Franklin (43:17)

That game seeing that defense, I knew Kentucky was going to be in a good spot. Whatever the offense was doing, I mean what they holding to 55, 60 yards rushing, the big chip train them storyline coming in, your old running backs going to come make you pay. And he had I think 41 yards that that defense was locked in. That's why I was never too worried or never really worried at all.

Ryan Lemond (43:36)

Yeah and really they gave up, you know that, that last touchdown with what a minute to go. You take that away and it is a two touchdown win. They just got a little prevent defense. I think got a little lazy there at that last drive.

Matt Jones (43:46)

Yeah, the no penalty or it's only three penalties, no sacks. The, the turnovers are frustrating. I mean that that's you know the turnover and also just I consider when you get the ball at the 37, you don't move it. I almost consider that a turnover too.

Drew Franklin (44:01)

And Willie's fumble was like I don't remember the exact spot on the edge of the red zone. 25. He was around there. That was would have been a big scoring opportunity.

Matt Jones (44:07)

It did feel like it was 10 to 2 for way too long. It was 10, it was 10 to 2. We could not get the points that would make it a two possession game. And that was frustrating to me that you're like that you. I felt like the moment it becomes a two possession game this will be over and we just couldn't do it for a long time if they didn't explode.

Drew Franklin (44:28)

And that was some good running in that fourth quarter and the hangout. What if we had just won 10 to 2? I mean I guess you're still happy with a win but what a very uneventful day. That was for three quarters.

Matt Jones (44:39)

Yeah. Well, I mean, we at least we're not Alabama true to go to the.

Drew Franklin (44:44)

Music City bowl right now, by the way.

Matt Jones (44:46)

Yeah. I do want to talk about what to talk about some of those some of those other games from Saturday, including poor last night, poor Bill Belichick told y'.

Drew Franklin (44:54)

All. Over on infants under on wins.

Matt Jones (44:58)

That might be true, too. Over on infants under on wins.

Drew Franklin (45:01)

It's the bell check season ahead.

Matt Jones (45:03)

Interesting. 859-280-2287. We're open up for lunch at KS Bar Grill. We'll take a break and be right back. Hour two Kentucky Sports RADIO.