2025-09-9- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – Hour 1 Summary

Episode Air Date: September 9, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones, Ryan Lemond, Drew Franklin, Shannon Dawson
Location: Live in Lebanon, Kentucky at the Cornbread Hemp Farm

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Episode Overview

This episode of Kentucky Sports Radio is a lively on-location broadcast from the Cornbread Hemp Farm. The KSR crew tackles several major topics with their usual blend of humor and insight, centering around new developments in UK athletics facilities, changes in the basketball and football programs, the ongoing controversy around hemp legalization, and the ever-popular subject of game day atmosphere at Kentucky football games. The episode is marked by playful banter, local color, and passionate debate about the state of Kentucky sports and fandom culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cornbread Hemp Farm & Kentucky’s Hemp Industry

[01:00–04:03]

• The crew opens from the Cornbread Hemp Farm in Lebanon, lauding the region for its beauty and the farm’s role in Kentucky’s burgeoning hemp industry.
• Matt Jones highlights Cornbread Hemp as the fastest-growing business in Kentucky, noting their advocacy in Washington, D.C. to keep hemp products legal.
• Discussion about Senator Mitch McConnell's controversial proposed legislation that could ban certain CBD products:

  “Mitch McConnell has introduced language to the Senate that would make these full spectrum flower only CBD plants illegal in all 50 states… If Mitch McConnell ruins that on his way out the door, I’m going to be upset.” — Matt Jones [03:17]

• The group jokes with “Mitch McConnell” (Ryan’s impersonation), poking fun at politics and the issue’s bipartisan relevance.

2. UK Basketball’s New Practice Facility Announcement

[04:37–13:19]

• Live coverage and reaction to the news that UK Athletics is moving forward with a brand-new, state-of-the-art basketball practice facility—a project long desired but previously delayed.
• Facility to be a joint venture with UK Healthcare, including a rehab/orthopedics clinic, aiming to be the “nicest college basketball practice facility in America.”

  “The goal is to have the nicest college basketball practice facility in America.” — Matt Jones [06:43]

• The current plan is for the men’s team to get the new building, women’s basketball and volleyball to use current facilities.
• Discussion on why the plan is happening now—notably after John Calipari’s departure.

  “It’s got to drive [Calipari] crazy that the moment he leaves, they are able to get it done.” — Matt Jones [06:58]

• Host analysis of the impact of Mark Pope as new coach, donors’ renewed enthusiasm, and how NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) deals tie into the project.
  • “Make no mistake about it, this is happening because Mark Pope is now your head coach. This would not have happened if John Calipari was still here.” — Ryan Lemond [10:58]

3. Facility Funding, Logistics, and the Band’s Fate

[25:33–27:32]

• Inside info (from a listener with “pretty good information”) on the facility’s likely location: off Cooper Drive, across from Commonwealth Stadium, connecting to the Nutter Training facility.
• No new dorms for players; many already living off-campus due to outdated amenities.
• UK Healthcare’s surge in hospital revenue funds much of the project, partly out of nonprofit requirements.
  • “They literally have to find ways to spend the money because it can’t be given to shareholders.” — Matt Jones [26:34]
• Sacrifices include losing a practice field used by the band—sparking humorous but genuine concern for the “band geeks.”

4. Football Talk: QB Situation & Coaching Gripes

[18:27–22:28]

• Analysis of head coach Mark Stoops’ cryptic handling of the quarterback starter due to Calzada’s potential injury; expectation is Cutter Bowley will start.
  • “If you have to gamesmanship Eastern Kentucky, you got bigger problems.” — Matt Jones [19:09]
  • “Calzada didn’t practice yesterday… I think you gotta prepare and think that Cutter’s gonna be your guy.” — Ryan Lemond [19:58]
• Discussion of repeated coaching and operational errors. Frustration with “organizational issues, clock management issues” that have plagued the program for years.
  • “We could go back to a random podcast from 10 years ago… and be talking about the same thing.” — Drew Franklin [21:10]
• Open critique of offensive coordinator Bush Hamdan and Stoops’ handling of the offense:
  • “It is hard to think of a scenario… Mark Stoops and Bush Hamdan will be on the staff next year together.”—Matt Jones [21:27]

5. Atmosphere at Kroger Field: The Stadium Music Debate

[27:50–38:58]

• A passionate and detailed breakdown of the stadium experience—particularly complaints about the music playlist and lack of energy during games.
  • Fans and hosts ridicule the repeated playing of The Outfield’s “Your Love” at football games:
    • “There are songs that are great songs, but they’re not right in the specific situation… for football, this isn’t it.” — Drew Franklin [39:00]
• Discussion about the disconnect between university decision-makers and the average fan (particularly referencing Mitch Barnhart/administration).
  • “If that sound system can be better and you’re turning it down, then the only people you’re listening to are the old people who give a lot of money, who don’t want it to be as loud.” — Matt Jones [32:58]
• Calls for more situational and energetic in-game hosting, crowd engagement, and embracing newer music that resonates with students and younger fans.
  • “I go to Reds games, Shannon, there’s never a moment… where it’s silent.” — Matt Jones [34:17]
  • “At every moment, they either play music… there’s a game, a Kiss cam… there’s never a moment where they’re not giving you stuff.” — Matt Jones [34:23]
  • Critique of the “Blue-White” chant: instructs half the stadium to be quiet during key moments.

    “The premise of the Blue-White chant is you have a stadium full of people… and you are instructing half of them to shut up.” — Matt Jones [35:18]

6. Banter, Listener Calls, and Local Color

[22:41–25:24; 23:10–24:48]

• Entertaining calls from listeners, including travel tales about South Africa and safaris.
• Local praise for Cedarwood’s country ham biscuits and the pride of Lebanon as “the country ham capital of the world.”
  • “If you want good country ham, you gotta come to Lebanon.” — Drew Franklin [25:33]

7. Speculation on Stoops’ Future and Possible UK Football Hires

[42:44–45:16]

• A caller questions Mark Stoops’ fit and wonders if Kentucky should consider an “offensive-minded” coach, mentioning Sonny Dykes.
• Matt Jones lays out the likely future scenario:

  “If Mark Stoops were gone at the end of the year, the head coach will either be John Sumrall or Brad White. That’s just what it’ll be…” — Matt Jones [44:54]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the rapid turnaround and Calipari’s frustration:
  “It’s got to drive [Calipari] crazy that the moment he leaves, they are able to get it done.” — Matt Jones [06:58]

• On the true cause for the facility finally moving forward:
  “Make no mistake about it, this is happening because Mark Pope is now your head coach…” — Ryan Lemond [10:58]

• On Kentucky’s fan/music debate:
  “If that sound system can be better and you’re turning it down, then the only people you’re listening to are old people who give a lot of money. I’m not saying their opinion shouldn’t matter—there’s a counter opinion, right?” — Matt Jones [32:58]

• Classic KSR banter:
  “If you're not trying to be negative… Four and eight, I think, for what we got going this year.” — Caller Lee [23:10]

• On stadium traditions:
  “The premise of the Blue White chant is… you’re instructing half of them to shut up.” — Matt Jones [35:18]

• On the future of UK football coaching if Stoops leaves:
  “The head coach will either be John Sumrall or Brad White. That’s just what it’ll be.” — Matt Jones [44:54]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–01:00 – Ads, show open, and live remote setup
• 01:00–04:03 – Cornbread Hemp and Kentucky hemp industry politics
• 04:37–13:19 – UK basketball practice facility announcement, history, and funding
• 13:19–14:43 – Basketball player height “growth,” poking fun at roster reporting
• 18:27–22:28 – UK football QB situation and coaching critiques
• 25:33–27:32 – Facility location, band concerns, and UK Healthcare funding
• 27:50–38:58 – In-depth stadium atmosphere/music debate
• 42:44–45:16 – Stoops’ future and coaching search speculation

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Final Takeaways

• UK Athletics is committing significant resources toward basketball, with new leadership and the NIL era making things possible after Calipari’s exit.
• The football program faces ongoing scrutiny for operational struggles, with fans anxious for a refreshed approach and better in-game experiences.
• The relationship between university decisions and ordinary Kentucky fans remains a central topic, especially around issues of game day atmosphere and engagement.
• As always, the KSR crew delivers a blend of sharp analysis, deep local flavor, and humorous rapport that keeps Kentucky fans informed and entertained.

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For further engagement, listeners are encouraged to join live shows, call in, and send their own suggestions for improving the Kentucky game day experience.

Transcript

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[Matt Jones]

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[Ryan Lemond]

I mean they're the the hemp fields look like little small little Christmas trees when you pull up. It looks beautiful when you pull in.

[Drew Franklin]

On top of one of them.

[Matt Jones]

That's Right. You can hang this. I, I don't know if I, if I bring one of these and cut it down and put it in my parents house, I don't know they'll have the same reaction. But. Nice to be out here today, Drew.

[Shannon Dawson]

Sure is beautiful out here. Mario and I, we like walk down the rows of the plants. Made a little video just now. Kind of felt like a real farmer there for a minute.

[Matt Jones]

So those of you that have been listening know about cornbread hemp. They've been advertising with this forever. Let me give you a couple facts. They are the fastest growing business in Kentucky. Did you know that?

[Drew Franklin]

I did, yeah. Because I talked about it on the pre show. But until then, until then I would not have known that. But it's very impressive of what they've done here.

[Matt Jones]

That's exactly right. And they are fighting in D.C. to keep hemp products legal. You know, I don't try, I try, I try to keep my political opinions to myself.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's one thing I can always say about you, Ryan.

[Matt Jones]

But when it comes to, when it comes to hemp, it shouldn't be a partisan issue. This is like a huge for the state of Kentucky. No better place to grow it. And your guy, Drew Franklin, Mitch McConnell has introduced language to the Senate that would make these full Spectrum flower only CBD plants illegal in all 50 states. On a personal level that's a big deal to me because I take it and it really helped change the way I sleep the change the way I was able to rest. And if Mitch McConnell ruins that on his way out the door, I'm going to be upset. But luckily the other representatives, both Republican and Democrat in the state are for it. But we have to stop Mitch McConnell from ending the. He was the one that started it. And now the bourbon people are mad and now he's flipped him. Now hopefully we can get that changed.

[Shannon Dawson]

I have a conversation.

[Matt Jones]

What about Ryan? You were, I was waiting on you to respond. You should have a strong take. Mr. Mayor.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, Mitch McConnell right here with us too.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. What Mitch, why are you doing that?

[Ryan Lemond]

Mark, it's good to be here on Kansas sports radio. I like the, I like the sav that they, they make.

[Matt Jones]

Well why are you then? Why are you trying to ban it?

[Ryan Lemond]

Because I want to use it. Kick your ass on your ass.

[Matt Jones]

What, what's going on? Have you had any.

[Drew Franklin]

That might be the last ever Mitch McConnell impersonation on this show.

[Matt Jones]

8, 5, 9. So make sure your Kentucky representative knows what they need to do. We are out here. It's a beautiful day. Corn, cornbread hemp brings us. And there's a lot going on this morning. The UK Athletics, the new UK Athletics llc, whatever it is you want to call it, has, is having a meeting as we speak. And one of the things on the agenda is the creation of a committee to form a plan. But really what it means is they are going to build a new UK basketball practice facility, something that they that has been wanted by some people at UK for a decade, fought against at times by other people. But it's going to be, from what I understand, a basketball practice facility that will be a joint effort with UK health care. So it will be half like, I don't know, rehab, athletic clinic, half basketball facility. Now, there's been like three NBA teams do this. The Atlanta Hawks have done it, I think the Cleveland Cavs. I think the theory is it's a practice facility. You also have gyms and stuff that people can use during the summer. And while they're at it, their parents can to the athletic clinic. It'll kind of be an athletic rehab orthopedics place, but also the UK practice facility. The goal is to have the nicest college basketball practice facility in America. As I understand it, it will be for the men's program and then the women's program will take all of the current practice facility and be able to share it with volleyball. So what the women. So basically the women will take over what the men had at Ukraine and the UK volleyball team will take over what the women had. And then the men's facility will be, I've heard on campus probably where the old UK baseball stadium was. That's likely where it would be. People, I think that's the, the kind of initial thought is over there next to where the old baseball stadium was close to football campus. This of course was something John Caliperi preached about for a decade, was never able to get. And it's got to like drive him crazy that the moment he leaves they are able to get it done. But we'll talk about that part in a minute. But first of all, I think UK needs it. I think it's going to be good for the basketball program. You know, Devil's in the details. I don't know all the details, but just in theory, Ryan, I think it's obviously good for the basketball program.

[Ryan Lemond]

If you came in as basketball is supposed to be the gold standard. I mean, well, this is a step in the right direction, right? Put in a facility like this will be the. One of its first of its Kind in college basketball for men. Absolutely. I think we all could get support in that.

[Matt Jones]

The practice facility, Drew, was very good, very nice, but it was not the best in the country. It was still good, but it wasn't the best in the country. I think their goal here is to have the best in the country. Now, you know, Kansas is one that has had a better one. Even Louisville's to some extent is better now. You're able to get. To get this. Yeah, they.

[Shannon Dawson]

They've recently put money into the craft center, but it's still at its limitations. Adding this UK healthcare component will make the new place even bigger. I assume there will be a dorm thing. That's what Kentucky.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. I don't think that's right.

[Shannon Dawson]

Well, I just move it across campus. I don't know if you can keep the lot because the lodge is already dated as is. That's one of the bigger complaints. So hopefully they do something with that, too.

[Matt Jones]

I have not heard they're doing that. I think it's right now. This is a bat. This is a practice facility. I think they're still at least now going to have the players where they are.

[Shannon Dawson]

Logistically, I hope they move them over there. But regardless, it's a good improvement. You want to want Kentucky to have the best of the best. We just went through a portal season where everybody's talking about how Kentucky's doing so well in nil. Let's have the facilities to match and just try to stay. I don't want to say gold standard because that was the old era, but let's stay on top of college basketball.

[Matt Jones]

Shannon. John, Cal Perry. I mean, I had. You couldn't help. When I. When I heard about this last night, you couldn't help but think about Cal because he. This was his thing forever. They wouldn't do it. He. He came in at one point, was like, me and my players will pay for it. That was, by the way, a complete lie. It's amazing to me how many people actually bought that that was going to be. You think these players go pay $75 million for a practice facility? I think they would have contributed, but the money ultimately was going to have to come from donors and the university. As I understand it, this will be UK health care, a primary driver of it, plus the university and donors. And so now the reality is they have the money now, whereas they didn't have the money before.

[Drew Franklin]

I feel like if they really wanted to do, they could have probably found the money to put it there.

[Matt Jones]

I think people need to understand there's this assumption out there that there's this money pit and that, like, anytime you want money, it's there. I can tell you, in the realities of UK sports, that is not true. And John Calipari had so frustrated so many of the big donors and so frustrated the university, the board as a whole, that money was not there. Now, I do think it's telling that it is there a year later.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Because of Mark Pope. But it was not there. It was not there.

[Drew Franklin]

Regardless, you know, it's going to be driving him crazy. That's the one thing that he was wanting, and they couldn't put it together. They couldn't figure it out. He couldn't get the blessing from Mitch.

[Matt Jones]

Bob. That's his fault.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Let me. Well, I. I was his fault. It was totally his fault.

[Drew Franklin]

And it's about when you ask for it, too. You don't ask for that after you lose to St. Peter's or Oakland. It's all about when you ask for it. I think it has a lot to do with it.

[Matt Jones]

You remember his initial real push for it was after we lost to St. Peter's yeah. He sort of almost act like when we lost to St. Peter's because of that, that was because we didn't have that practice facility there. And there were people like, well, what was St. Peter's practice facility? Boy, there's. Must be really nice. Mark Pope, though, I think, deserves a lot of credit in this. And I think part of the reason this works now is the nil piece, because UK Healthcare, my guess is UK Healthcare is going to end up with nil sponsorships with these athletes as part of this. But this will be good for the. For the basketball program and, you know, we'll continue. The goal of it is clear this university has said we are going to be good at basketball no matter what it takes. And this is part of that.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Make no mistake about it, this is happening because Mark Pope is now your head coach. This would not have happened if John Caliperi was still here as our head coach. The money was just not going to be there. But these donors are now back on board believing what Pope's trying to build here. That's why the money's now available to do something like this.

[Matt Jones]

How much do you think it would eat? Like when he. When. When he. When he saw the tweets last night and heard the news, do you think Cal's head exploded?

[Shannon Dawson]

We'll probably get a little remark from him. Just cuddle.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

At some point, he'll make something like, it's nice to have another.

[Shannon Dawson]

Well, headwind, I think, is the way.

[Drew Franklin]

I think it would be nice to Kentucky, when Arkansas comes to Rupp, to at least let him have a tour of the new practice facility. You know, let's show them what he could have had here.

[Shannon Dawson]

I would ask all the NBA players to donate and kind of take his idea, like have an Anthony Davis room in there where that he contributes to.

[Matt Jones]

That would. That would be nice if they were able to do it. It is. It is interesting to me. You know, you were what this practice facility getting done confirms to me and should confirm to the general public to what extent at the end of that time, he had no juice left. You know, Shannon, to your point, you were like, well, the money could have been there.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, he just didn't have the support.

[Matt Jones]

I think you're. I think you're. I sort of said you were wrong. You're right in one respect, which was. It was theoretically there. He just couldn't get it.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, yeah. If you don't have the people who have that money supporting you, then you don't have it. Yeah, but it could have been.

[Matt Jones]

It was theoretically there. He just couldn't get it. And he didn't really have the juice in order to be able to get it anymore. And Mark Pope, it's so funny because he has such a different style. You know, Mark Pope is not a, like, slick sales guy.

[Drew Franklin]

He has a different energy about him.

[Matt Jones]

Right. Completely different energy. And Ryan, at least for this time, I think that worked. And then he gets the perfect timing with the nil to get it done.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. You've talked about how, you know, the. The number one booster in Cal had a falling out. That money was not there anymore. That number one booster is now back on board because of Mark Pope. It's because of him and what he's trying to do here.

[Shannon Dawson]

Now I'm excited to see how advanced this thing is because Pope came in, remember on this show, he's like, this building has a whiteboard with a broken leg. I'm trying to bring in technology and iPads with the way they nerd out this new facility. And, you know, they were going to have to invest for someone to, you know, build it, do all the studies. But it is going to be technologically advanced in there.

[Matt Jones]

It will be. It will be very nice and then. But it also remains on campus, which is another good thing, I think. I think for everybody. So with basketball being on the horizon, they, They've. We talked about starting the workouts we didn't mention this yesterday. They remeasured all the players. I thought of you, Shannon, when they remeasured all the play.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Because now they say jaden Quaint is 2 inches taller than last year. I think Trit Noah was a half an inch all. Or are you going to. Are you believing? Are you believing the new heights?

[Drew Franklin]

No, I'm going to take my own tape measure over to the campus and start measuring these guys because I don't buy into it. I think this is like the wrestling thing where they inflate heights.

[Matt Jones]

I think they had five different players that had grown at least a half inch since last.

[Drew Franklin]

What are they feeding those guys over there to make you grow that much?

[Ryan Lemond]

Got a good stretch, doctor. They're stretching them out.

[Matt Jones]

What is the age where you don't grow anymore?

[Ryan Lemond]

Me, it was like 12. Yeah, I just stopped.

[Drew Franklin]

That checks out, I'd say. I don't know. I'm not a doctor. I'm gonna guess like 19, 20, maybe somewhere around there.

[Matt Jones]

So. So. Well, if that's the case, Drew, it's possible.

[Shannon Dawson]

Quaint especially, I can believe, because he's still pretty young. He's like 12 years old. Like Ryan. He's still about to stop growing.

[Matt Jones]

But I do think there might be.

[Shannon Dawson]

A little bit of cook in the books here if the whole team has grown in just a few months.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, it's like the. Well, this may be a dated reference, but you will get this. The Barney Fife where they're trying to stretch them. They had them hanging, you know, trying to stretch them.

[Matt Jones]

That is a dated reference. But you all. I can see some people out there that are older crowd. That's right. The older folks in the audience. Audience know that. 859-280-2287. Well, I think the takeaway from the practice facility probably won't be around for three years. But the takeaway to me is A, how different the things are between donors, university and coach, and then B, how much money this university has clearly decided. Sports, specifically the big sports, are the key to these athletic departments surviving. And I'm not saying UK has given up on football. I don't think that's happened. But I think they've said our basketball program has to be good. It has to. And we will do whatever it takes to be good. And I think this is the latest thing. 859-280-2287. It is a beautiful here in Lebanon. And this is a beautiful scene actually, out here on the farm. We'll take a break and be right back to see this.

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back to Kentucky Sports Radio. Here live in Lebanon at the Cornbread Hemp Facility, 859-280-2287. Cornbread Hemp, the seltzer's thing everybody's been doing, including you guys. Love them. They've. I think Billy's already taken one back there. They got food here as well. Come on out to tell me the road again. Bradfordville. Bradfordville Road.

[Shannon Dawson]

They have the truck parked out front to help you.

[Matt Jones]

That's exactly right. Yes. You can see it out there. 859-280-2287. Text machine. One person writes. Matt, do you think it would be classy to name the facility the John and Ellen Caliperi practice facility?

[Ryan Lemond]

Just a little dig there. Is that what you're trying to say?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I think it would be classy. Do I think it's ever gonna happen? No. And would I support it? No.

[Drew Franklin]

You'd have to give them money to use their name on it. So. No.

[Matt Jones]

I mean just. That's a big no. I actually that's my, that's my worst idea of the week. Or Drew giving that. I would, I would not do that.

[Ryan Lemond]

No.

[Shannon Dawson]

Well, you throw his image on the wall with Tubby and. Yeah, I mean he will exist there, but I don't know if his name needs to be on the bill.

[Matt Jones]

You should celebrate him as a coach. Yes, we knew the other coaches, but, but no, I would not, would not do that. One person writes. Matt, I genuinely think Cal Perry broke you all in ksr, you're still obsessed with him. You need to get over it. He did a ton here. Again, you're writing about him. I'm just telling you why the thing got got. Didn't get built before and why it's getting built now because it's a legitimate question of it. Two years ago they said we're not going to do this in the foreseeable future, and now they're doing.

[Shannon Dawson]

I'll say the caller's right. John Calipari did break me. St. Peter's in Oakland was awful, absolutely awful. I'm still in recovery.

[Matt Jones]

Let's talk football. Just second. Mark Stoops comes out yesterday, does not say that Calzada is not the starter, but then also says Cutter will play. I didn't totally understand. You know, there, there, there are some whispers out there that people think the Calzada injury could be serious, but they don't know. I, I didn't really know how to interpret his comments either on the show at night, the show, or the press conference during the day. What about you?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, if you listen to coach last night, he, he didn't come out and really say that Cutter was going to start. But then if you really listen to it, he kind of did say that Cutter was going to start. So he's trying. I think they're trying to do some gamemanship. I think Cutter's the guy read between the lines.

[Matt Jones]

By the way, I hate the gamesmanship. Like, if you, if you have to. Gamesmanship. Eastern Kentucky, you got bigger. Or Eastern Michigan, you got bigger problems. Just say you want to have a crowd there Saturday. Say Cutter's going to start. Right. Like, I mean, I don't. What, do you want people to come or not?

[Shannon Dawson]

I don't think it's gamesmanship. I think it's delicate with Calzada because you don't want him to check out because you might need him again, depending on his injury situation. You don't want to just say, oh, you hurt your shoulder, you're in the end of the bench now. It's his show. I think you. Even though Stoop sounds like he wants it and his comments from Saturday stick out more to me than Monday. I think he's just being careful to not just flip the switch to Bowley and then lose Calzada for the year.

[Matt Jones]

Well, Calzada will know on Saturday. Oh, he will.

[Shannon Dawson]

But I think just with his comments, he's being careful just to not throw them aside.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I already got all the confirmation. I need it yesterday from Scoop Lemon when he Says it, I'll take it to the bank.

[Ryan Lemond]

So Cutter starting Calzada didn't practice yesterday. And like Matt said, kind of the scuttlebutt is he's, he's hurt. So I think you got to prepare and think that Cutter's gonna be your guy when you hit the field on Saturday.

[Matt Jones]

All right. What did you think of Mark Stoop saying that when you look at the film, we were. We were just one or two little mistakes away from having won the game. He was like, these are one or two little things we're were there. I don't know if it's one or two. I might say it's like four or five. But I would actually say most of those mistakes were self inflicted. And some of them were on the coaching staff, I would think. Do you agree with that?

[Shannon Dawson]

I would say most of them are. It wasn't a talent issue. It was a coaching and operational issue. I mean, you're in the game, but if we just counted all the pre snap frustrations, the burnt timeouts, the penalties, that's where you got beat. Not because Ole Miss is just so much better of a talented football team.

[Ryan Lemond]

The mistakes that were on the field, yeah, I think a lot of those maybe are correctable, but the mistakes that were made on the sideline, something we've been talking about for four or five years, it seems like.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I don't. It's hard for me to. I mean, he, he once again did the inexcusable. We got to get better. But I mean, how many years do you have to wait for that?

[Drew Franklin]

You know, I was telling Billy, you know, we could go back to a random podcast from 10 years ago on a September Monday and be talking about the same thing that we're talking about today. The organizational issues, the clock management issues, the things that just drive us crazy as fans.

[Shannon Dawson]

Cover receivers.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Does it not sound like to you when he talks about the offense, specifically Bush Hamden, he's just amazingly frustrated like that. Like it is. It is hard to think of a scenario. I'd love to see what odds you could get in Vegas for Mark Stoops and Bush Hamden will be on the staff next year together. I mean, I just. That's. That's hard for me to see as something that is likely. Just the way he talks about him, Drew, I don't think I've ever heard him talk about a coach the way he talks about. He doesn't say anything about him specifically, but just the overall thing. Do you agree with that?

[Shannon Dawson]

Yes. And when the end of the first half was so bad on Saturday, and to their credit, they cleaned it up a little in the second half. But Stoops has now said two or three times, I had a conversation with my offensive coaches at halftime and we fixed it. Yeah, that conversation was probably very loud. And one that if you were a fly on that wall, I think it was more than a convers. It was probably a figure this bleep out of here.

[Drew Franklin]

Bush is looking at it. I mean, he's gonna fix. He's looking at it. Let him look a little longer.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's the thing. You got to give him time to look. If you don't give him time to look at it, how's he supposed to fix it until he looks at it? Yeah, that's a great point. Who's up first? Lee is up first. Lee. Go ahead, Lee.

[Caller]

Hey, Lee. Hey, man. How you doing?

[Matt Jones]

Doing good. What's up, Lee?

[Caller]

Hey, listen, I want to call real quick. Quick thing on the catch football. You've been talking about it. I'm not trying to be negative. I think 4 and 8 is going to be the best. I think Stoops is done. I think it's time to start looking at basketball, volleyball. But the reason I called.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute. If you're not trying to be negative. Well, I hate to hear. I'd hate to hear you being negative now. Go ahead.

[Caller]

That would be positive right there. Four and eight, I think, for what we got going this year.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, four and eight's positive. All right.

[Caller]

I want to call you about your trip to South Africa, man. We. We spent about the month of July down in South Africa and went to Johannesburg. And then we was on a mission trip and went to Belembo. Swahiti, it's called. Used to be called Swaliland. Eswatini, my wife just said. And we've been down there about seven times and. Are you going to. On to safari at Kruger Park?

[Matt Jones]

Yes. Yes.

[Caller]

Oh, it's awesome. It's awesome. We stayed a place there, right there called Hippo Hollow. We had hippo.

[Matt Jones]

You sure? That's not sure. That's not in breath. It County Hippo Holler.

[Caller]

No, it's just. No, no, it's. It was definitely Kruger Park. And listen, man, it's unbelievable. Try to do a night safari if you can. Try to do a nice safari.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I'll do whatever they take me. I'm not gonna do it on my own. I don't feel like I have that level. But whatever they take me to, that's what?

[Caller]

I'm gonna go have a guide. We was there, just like I said, the whole month of July. We saw lions take down a rhino and said we were 15ft from them when they was munching on his back.

[Matt Jones]

I'd want to be a little bit Farther back.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, 15ft.

[Drew Franklin]

Social distancing.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Caller]

The most intimidating thing is those hyenas, though.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Caller]

The most beautiful thing is the white tailed dog. So just.

[Matt Jones]

I'm looking forward to it. Well, sir, thank you. Thank you for. I gotta take a break, but thank you for the kind words. We'll take a break and be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live in Lebanon. They just brought us. I don't know how often people get to Lebanon just like in their travels, but if you do, they just brought us. Is this Cedarwood? Is that the name of the place? Place Cedarwood country ham Biscuits. And you know, I, we. The ham days is coming, right? Isn't it over weeks? I think it's while I'm in, in South Africa. But this was really good. I forget when it comes to country ham. This is the county.

[Drew Franklin]

Absolutely.

[Matt Jones]

I'm just telling you, I, I'm a country. You don't get that everywhere. I'm a country ham connoisseur. No, no offense to Cracker Barrel, but I'll take Cedarwood when it comes to that.

[Drew Franklin]

Of course. This is like the country ham capital of the world and you want good country ham, you got to come to Lebanon.

[Matt Jones]

That's right. Cornbread hemp here. They've given over $500,000 back to the community and now have this issue going. Think about how many jobs need to be saved. Don't let Mitch McConnell, right before he retires, screw it up. Now, this is somebody that writes me that usually. Ron has pretty good information. Okay. And so I feel I wouldn't read this if I didn't think it was likely to be the case. This is about the new basketball facility. It's going to be off Cooper Drive across from Commonwealth Stadium. It will connect to Nutter training. It will take place. Take away one practice field at Nutter where the band practices. Poor band. What is the band gonna do now?

[Drew Franklin]

Go to the parking lot, I guess.

[Matt Jones]

That'S what they're gonna do. There will not be a new dorm. Players will actually end up probably having a place live off campus. That's partially because the lodge isn't as nice. That's between me and you. That's kind of already happening right now.

[Shannon Dawson]

But it's been like that, a little.

[Matt Jones]

Bit like that for while. They kind of, you know, if we, if we're all being friends here, it's kind of already happening. The reason UK healthcare is part of it is because they have so much money coming in from the UK health hospital system as a nonprofit, they literally have to find ways to spend the money because it can't be given to shareholders. So this is one of their capital projects. They're going to do all that makes sense, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

To me, I'm, I'm. I can't swear that's true, but that makes sense.

[Ryan Lemond]

If it's a half practice facility, half rehab facility. You got everything under one roof. You know, the guys obviously have knee. Have rehab needs all the time. So every day.

[Matt Jones]

And it allows them to pay for it. You get them to pay for it, and then they use half the building for health care and then you get a practice facility out.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Everybody wins except for the band. The band geeks are the losers. Nobody thinks about the band. If you don't have the band, it's going to be really quiet. You're gonna have my old Kentucky home.

[Matt Jones]

That's true. Poor band.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, let's think about them a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

Think about the band.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. They gotta practice in the rain now. You know how hard it is to play an electric guitar in the rain.

[Shannon Dawson]

Electric guitar?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, Marching band.

[Shannon Dawson]

Are you.

[Drew Franklin]

Is it the marching band or the band that sets up there? Because there is somebody that plays the bass. There's like a bass guitar, maybe.

[Matt Jones]

A bass guitar, Yeah. I think they mean the marching band. I don't think they mean just like the punk rock bands that are on campus. I don't think they get their own practice.

[Drew Franklin]

I think there is a bass player. I swear, you may be right.

[Matt Jones]

There's a bass player. But I think the band itself is more of a. Yeah, well, let's talk for a second, since you're bringing up the band about atmosphere. I. It is always fascinating to me what resonates with people. We've talked about this. Like, we'll talk about something random and people will bring it up to me, you know, for years, and we play this game on Saturday, we lose. And, you know, there's still a lot of people talking about it. But the atmosphere thing, if you were to look at the text machine, 75% of all texts I'm getting are about atmospheric chrography. Like, that's. It is clearly like a nerve that people had that has been poked maybe because of how bad it was for Game one. And now it's all. It's literally all people. Right. One person wrote me and said they. They actually wrote down the songs that were played during the game.

[Ryan Lemond]

Did they really?

[Matt Jones]

They, like. They took a quarter and just wrote all the songs down. You know, I was looking at them and I actually left it at home. It was on an email, but it was a bunch. But one of the ones they said has been played both weeks and this. This was really bothering people. Shannon, you're our music expert.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

There's a group. Is it called the Outfield? Oh, yeah, yeah. They have a song called your Love.

[Drew Franklin]

Which I'll play on Double Q and the afternoons.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's not a stadium song, though.

[Matt Jones]

But they played it in the first and second half, both games. So they've played it four times. Yeah. Now I'm not. How's that song go?

[Drew Franklin]

We'll get Rick to play it.

[Matt Jones]

Rick, will you play it in the next segment? Sure thing.

[Ryan Lemond]

Your love all in the world. I can sing it for you.

[Shannon Dawson]

Sing it.

[Ryan Lemond]

I used to like the Outfield.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't want to lose your love tonight.

[Matt Jones]

There you go. So is that a stadium song? No, no, no.

[Ryan Lemond]

Absolutely not.

[Shannon Dawson]

Even a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

So apparently played twice a game and this person was ranting about your love, saying, if we in 2025 think to play at a football game not once but twice every game, the Outfield, your love. That shows me how disconnected they are. Do you agree with that?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I don't think that's a good stadium song. I mean, it's a fine song, but I don't think that it gets me pumped up for a football game. If I'm going to go classic rock, it's got to be like some AC DC or Metallica. If we're going to do old stuff. Nobody wants to hear 80s music at a football game.

[Shannon Dawson]

Counterpoint. We asked them to be situational. They're literally asking for us to not give up on them and lose our love.

[Ryan Lemond]

Maybe that's it.

[Shannon Dawson]

Maybe they're looking at the crowd leaving, being disappointed and they're going off script and trying to play to the crowd.

[Matt Jones]

So there was someone at UK who I was talking to yesterday, and this is somebody that's always been very like. Like is asking me my opinion. Not in an argumentative way. It's like, literally, what do you think? And this was. I just want to be honest what I told the person at uk. I was like, here's what UK needs to do. And I say this with. With all due respect, because I think Everybody involved is a good person. I said, I, I said, when was my argument was when is the last time Mitch Barnhart has sat down with average fans and listened to their opinions? When. And the person didn't have an answer for me. And I said, I'm gonna guess very rarely because why would he, how much does he go, like, just take the people here. When do you think is the last time Mitch Barnhart has talked to a group of people like this.

[Drew Franklin]

Outside of email? Probably never.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I'm not gonna say never, but it's probably been a long time. The nature of that job is you deal with administrators, you deal with big time boosters. You do, I bet outside of, outside of a church setting. But again, like church in Lexington is not the same as Lebanon. It's just not. I bet you, I bet there's no dealing with them. So how would you even know, right? How would they even know? And so they said, well, what would you suggest? And I was like, well, there's so much stuff that it's hard for me to even, to even figure out. And so I said, I'll throw it out there to people and say, what are some suggestions beyond this sucks that you would do? Like, like, like literally, what's something you would do? We all agree. Change the dj. The number one thing I would do is hire Shannon the dude. I honestly think it would help. That would be number one. Number two, you got to do something about the sound system because it's awful. Now, I was told the sound system actually can be louder and better, but people have told them to turn it down. Now, this is a serious question. If that sound system can be better and you're turning it down, then that means the only people you're listening to are the old people who give a lot of money, who don't want it to be as loud. And I'm not saying their opinion shouldn't matter, but like there's a counter opinion, right? And I don't think the other stadiums go, you know, Johnny thinks it's too loud. They just blast the music. So. But I thought it was a fair point to ask me, what specifically would you do? So I'm going to go to the three of you. If I said to you, what specific change would you make? What would you do, Ryan?

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, so much right now, so much of their focus on keeping the big booster people happy, which unfortunately a lot of our older people, you got to get away from that line of thinking. You got to think about the stadium atmosphere in itself. So piggyback exactly what you're saying. Loud music, stadium music, nothing that it may not. May not make the. The booster people happy, but.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. But that. We did that one. What else? Because. Because what. What are you. You're in charge. What would you do?

[Drew Franklin]

We're no longer playing my old Kentucky home at all. At all. We're taking that.

[Matt Jones]

Those are still songs.

[Drew Franklin]

Is there any specifically?

[Shannon Dawson]

My biggest complaint that I've noticed. And in the press box, we're enclosed, so I don't get the true atmosphere, but I get a decent feel of it. Enduring a timeout, a commercial in between quarters. It is absolutely dead in there. I even joked last week, they're showing fans, and they probably went to six straight fans who were head down looking at their phone. I even. I wrote on our board, like, oh, I like the new. Everyone's looking at their phone cam that we debuted. Fans kind of need some instruction or an activity in those moments. Or they're gonna look at those phones.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know.

[Shannon Dawson]

Excuse me, Chogan, if you bring a cheerleader out with that microphone to try.

[Matt Jones]

To lead something, I don't know if.

[Shannon Dawson]

You'Re firing T shirts, but you need something during the breaks. Keep the energy going, because it completely does. It doesn't matter what song you're playing. People aren't doing anything. They're sitting on their hands.

[Matt Jones]

I go to Reds games, Shannon. There's never a moment at a Reds game where it's silent.

[Drew Franklin]

That's right.

[Matt Jones]

For. For better or worse. There's not. At every moment, they either play music. They either have a tape thing where they're showing a Reds baseball player, you know, picking who's trivia. There's a. There's a game with fans in the crowd. There's a Kiss cam. There's a let's honor a veteran. Like, there. There is never a moment where they're not giving you stuff. And that might annoy some people, but it makes it to where even at a baseball game, which is not exactly the most exciting thing in the world, there's always something coming at you. Drew's right. There are long periods of just silence at the games. And as somebody pointed out to me about the Blue White Chant, they were like, I want you to think about the Blue White Chant. Whether you like it or not. The premise of the Blue White chant is you have a stadium full of people that might have 65,000 people that could cheer, and you are instructing half of them to shut up.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's a good point.

[Drew Franklin]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, think about that. You're saying in a big defensive moment when all 65,000 people could create an atmosphere of noise. Hey, half of you all shut up. That's actually a really good point, Drew. Like, why would you do that?

[Shannon Dawson]

You should be encouraging, even if it's just, hey, let's all scream as loud as we possibly can. They bring that decibel thing, reader, that no one truly believes.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon Dawson]

Last week they had it fired up. It's at whatever numbers hot. It's shaking. But you look around and people are like. It's like you have to bring. People aren't gonna bring their own energy for the entire game. Especially when the game's not going well. Something has to be keeping them going at all times during commercials and timeouts. It's almost like Krogerfield goes, all right, 10 minutes, we're all gonna take a break and come back, go get smoke, bathroom.

[Matt Jones]

You make a phone call, we'll all.

[Shannon Dawson]

Be back in 10 minutes for the game. No, it needs to keep going.

[Drew Franklin]

In basketball games, they have like an in game host, you know, why not have something like that?

[Matt Jones]

All right, let me get to that. If you want to have an in game host, I always bring back Ryan. But you have. As someone who hosts a radio show, the key of hosting is you got to have energy even when other people don't. Like, even if other people are looking at you like, I'm not happy about this. You've got to go. And you can't just put somebody that works for JMI and seems like a nice person. You got to have somebody who has person. Now it's tough in football because they can't see you all the way down there. So it is. I'm not going, I'm going to acknowledge it's much tougher in football, but I agree with you. I think they have to do that. So if you have suggestions. I said I would pass along like that blue white thing where the person just said to me, half the crowd's not talking. I thought, man, that is. That is.

[Ryan Lemond]

I thought about that.

[Matt Jones]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. All right, so this is the song. Turn it Up, Turn it Up Rick. So you think it's a good football song? No, Absolutely.

[Ryan Lemond]

I love this song, but it is not a stadium.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, there are songs that are great songs, but they're not right in the specific situation that you're playing them in. And I think for football, this isn't it.

[Shannon Dawson]

Wait, think about David Gusta putting his hand in the dirt right now. Yeah, he's just ready to knock someone's head off.

[Matt Jones]

Not interested in losing his love tonight.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's like they're afraid to play those old songs from the 70s that all every stadium in the world plays. And for whatever reason, UK are in the 70s.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Let's be honest. Just a second. If you go to other games folks, 80 to 90% is rap. Like I think the handful of non rap songs you should play is like AC DC.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

I, I, I think even the 70s, like, like credence and Clear White, that's all nice but like just I want you to think about the people who are 25 in the 70s. They're in their 70s. Yeah. Okay. I mean we don't want to think about it like this. But it's true. I saw my 85 bears and I was what? Last night they showed them and I was like man, not many guys showed up. And then I realized a lot of them are probably dead.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You know, because they're like 85 bears. Doesn't seem that long to me.

[Drew Franklin]

But they are 85.

[Matt Jones]

They're in their 70s. Most of the 85 bears, they're truly.

[Shannon Dawson]

85 year old bears.

[Matt Jones]

So, you know, I mean, I guess it's not surprising a lot of them didn't show up. They couldn't show up.

[Shannon Dawson]

That and the, the comment about keeping the music low in Kroger Field. When we see these other places, like when Sandstorm comes on in South Carolina, do you think anyone's like, you know what, we should probably turn this down just a little bit or jump around in Wisconsin or all these iconic moments and games with music. People are saying, turn it up as loud as possible and screaming through it.

[Matt Jones]

No, you're, you're. You're exactly right. 859-280-2287. Who's up next?

[Ryan Lemond]

Mark Anthony is next.

[Matt Jones]

Mark Anthony, how are you?

[Caller]

Hey, Matthew Ryan, Gru, Shannon and hey, Rick. Hey, Matthew. I got three things. First of all, I agree with Drew that this, this roster is strictly in deference to Zach Calzada. That's. That. That's all. And the blue white thing, I wish the cheerleaders would leave those cards in the locker room. They come out because listening to it on the tv, it sounds as though the entire stadium has given birth at the same time.

[Matt Jones]

Wow. I like your version of it, though. I think that's a good version. Sounds a little bit like. I appreciate the call. My Dan Campbell impression from COVID Zero. I've gotten some, some comments that like people were being the drive through or not. Dan Campbell, Chris Collinsworth.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, Dan was last week, two good impersonations.

[Matt Jones]

I was talking about how during the games, Chris Collinsworth grunts a lot. And I'm not gonna do it here with everyone watching me, but I did an impersonation during the thing and some people said like they were at a drive through or something and they had the volume up and they heard me. I mean, I was making sounds that not a lot of people hear me make. And it was just on. It was on the radio and true.

[Shannon Dawson]

I got a good laugh out of me. I couldn't even talk. We needed a moment to gather myself there.

[Matt Jones]

But that's impersonation. That's what he does when Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson play.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, kinda.

[Drew Franklin]

I'll find it, make a drop out of it.

[Matt Jones]

Don't worry.

[Shannon Dawson]

Oh, it's good.

[Matt Jones]

It is.

[Shannon Dawson]

You could Put it to good use.

[Matt Jones]

To be honest with you, it is a pretty good drop. Cover 3 NFL Cover 0 Episode 3 is out. Check it out. I think of the three of them we done, I think it's the best one we did. That's good because we were up till one in the morning. Billy was there till two in the morning. Billy was a trip up for the pre show and then up for the pre show driving all the way to Somerset. By the way, we've been last four days, Bowling Green, Georgetown, Somerset, Lebanon. This is like the old days of driving all over the state. Who's next?

[Ryan Lemond]

Kyle is up next.

[Matt Jones]

Kyle. Go ahead, Kyle.

[Caller]

Hey, Matt. I'm trying to remain positive about the season, but after the first two weeks it's getting more difficult. The one common denominator with the offense it seems every year is who the head coach is. We've had different offensive coordinators. When they leave, they go on to do much better things than they've done here. I know he says he doesn't have anything to do with the offense. I find that hard to believe and I don't think anything is going to change until he moves on. So let me throw. And I know the season's still going on, but just humor me for a second. I know everybody wants John Sumrall. I would love John Sumrall. John Somerset is a defensive coach. What if we go a different direction and have an offensive minded coach and I'm going to throw a name out there that I haven't heard anybody say. Sonny Dykes at tcu.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, they considered him the last time. I mean, you remember when they hired Stoops, it was a fight. There were like four guys that were a finalist, one of which was Sonny Dykes. So I mean, Sonny Dykes was definitely someone I think Mitch Barnhart was comfortable with. He, you know, when Stoops was hired, there was a group and honestly appreciate the call. The other guys all had some success, but Sonny Dykes was one of them. I think one of the things people have to understand is Obviously we have 10 games left. Mark Stoops is going to be here till the end of the year and I think he'll probably be here longer than that. But that's a different conversation. We'll see what happens. But if they were to have a job opening, I can tell you who the next coach at Kentucky will be. It will be one of two people. You can write this down. I'm Gonna put an 80 plus percent chance that if, if Mark Stoops were gone at the end of the year, the head coach will either be John Sumrall or Brad White. That's just what it'll be. So, like, it's fun to talk about other names, but it'll be one of those two people. If Mitch Barnhart's making the decision, which I have no reason to think he would not be. So, you know, that's just what it is, is like that's who, that's who Mitch is. That's what that, that, that's not. Now if we finish 3 and 9, our defense collapses, maybe that changes. But if you were to just say to me today, Ryan, that's what I would say is the most likely, I think you're right.

[Ryan Lemond]

One he's one one A. But there's three defensive coaches. We're talking about Stoops, White and Summer. All three are kind of defensive coaches. Goes against what the caller was asking. So why don't we go, why don't they go a different direction?

[Matt Jones]

But Sunday nights was somebody that was considered last time and I think was maybe the second or third choice. So it's not a crazy scenario. We will take a break, come back our number two. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

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