2025-10-06- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

KSR Podcast Summary: Hour 1 – October 6, 2025

Podcast: KSR (Kentucky Sports Radio)
Hosts: Matt Jones, Drew Franklin, Shannon The Dude
Date: October 6, 2025
Location: Live from Memorial Coliseum, Lexington, KY (UK Basketball Media Day)
Main Theme:
An introspective hour navigating UK Football’s turmoil amid swirling rumors about the future of the program, juxtaposed with the energy and quirks of UK Basketball Media Day.

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Episode Overview

The KSR crew broadcasts from the floor of Memorial Coliseum for UK Basketball Media Day, but the real headline is the state of UK Football. The hosts candidly dissect the aftermath of a difficult football season, address coaching rumors, and manage fan expectations for potential changes in the program. All of this unfolds amid the unique constraint of being on site but without actual access to players or coaches for interviews.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Awkwardness and Setting of the Show (00:35–02:46)

• Matt sets the tone—broadcasting from Memorial Coliseum without player/coach access feels “awkward” but also significant given the gravity of current UK sports headlines.
• Ryan Lemond’s absence and the noticeable proximity to the Athletic Director’s office adds to the day’s tension.
• “There have been times... they've stood outside the gates with weapons to keep us out. So we are here, but we don't get to talk to anyone.” —Matt Jones (01:47)

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2. Basketball Media Day Anticipation (02:47–03:29)

• Matt and Shannon reminisce about past media days, noting how team turnover has made these days about meeting new faces.
• News: Zvonimir Ivišić (nicknamed “Yellow Vic”) is now eligible to play.
• The excitement of seeing new players is tempered by the reality that football still dominates the headlines.

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3. UK Football State of Affairs & Coaching Rumor Breakdown (04:00–10:26)

A. Rumors About Mark Stoops Wanting Out (04:03–06:41)

• Alan Cutler's Friday report: Mark Stoops asked to be let go; Matt clarifies it was more nuanced, calling it “not the same as going and saying I want out.”
• Matt’s verdict: Stoops did not ask to be bought out, but discussions about buyouts aren't unheard of after tough seasons.
• “Mark Stoops did not go and say buy me out.” —Matt Jones (05:59)

B. Coaching Staff Future (06:41–10:26)

• No imminent changes expected; speculation about staff shakeup is deemed unfounded for now.
• Social media disinformation and fan gullibility are lampooned (“Kentucky Butt News”), along with the ease of generating fake “news” on X/Twitter.
• “All you have to do... just put like Kentucky and something relating to news in your bio.” —Matt Jones (07:25)
• Bush Hamdan, the offensive coordinator (OC), is expected to last the season unless performances dramatically worsen.

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4. Fan Frustration, Program Trajectory, and What Constitutes “Unacceptable” (11:19–15:10)

• Bemoaning recent postgame shows: “It wasn’t a bundle of joy in terms of what people’s thoughts were.” —Matt
• Record projection debate:
  • 3-9: Unacceptable, necessitates change (“That's about as close as you can get to having an Oakland [basketball upset] moment.” —Shannon, 11:56)
  • 4-8: Almost certainly demands change.
  • 5-7: Uncertainty—the “worst” result, as it muddies the waters about whether change is necessary.
  • 6-6: “Hard” to justify firing a bowl-eligible coach.
• The Athletic publishes a significant article forecasting a likely separation between Stoops and UK.

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5. Attendance and Fan Engagement Woes (21:02–22:16)

• Anticipated drop-off for the upcoming Tennessee Tech game (“There might be 43 people at that game.” —Matt, 13:13)
• Big games (Texas, Tennessee, Florida) will still draw, but the “statement” crowd size will be at the lesser match-ups.

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6. Fan Calls & Emotional Temperature Check (22:19–24:07)

• Caller Adam captures fan ambivalence: “If they were to go 5 and 7 this year, I would be excited for this season... but it still would not get me excited for the future of the program.”
• Conversation stresses not cheering against the team, even when changes may be needed.

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7. Lighter Side: Super Bowl Halftime Banter & Denim Uniforms (24:07–30:19)

Super Bowl Halftime Show Reaction (24:12–26:53)

• Bad Bunny named as headliner; hosts joke about feeling “officially old” as modern pop culture outpaces them.
• Notable Quote: “I’ve accepted that I’m gonna be the person at the Super Bowl going, I don’t know this one.” —Matt Jones (25:03)
• Metallica and the changing nature of halftime entertainment discussed.

Return of the Denim Uniforms (28:25–30:19)

• Mark Pope announces denim uniforms for multiple games.
• Some nostalgia and generational quirks—“It’s really like programmed for people in their 40s.” —Matt (29:35)
• Louisville’s willingness to experiment with uniforms cited as a potential model.

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8. Recruiting Sighting & Whimsical Interludes (37:06–38:12)

• Star recruit Darren Rippey Jr. briefly walks through; Matt humorously predicts his commitment based on a fleeting glance.
• Billy (KSR staffer) in khakis becomes comedic scapegoat for recruitment worries.

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9. KSR “Truth” Call & Origin of Denim Uniforms (40:41–43:03)

• “The Truth” caller offers a wild theory: denim uniforms originated from a Henderson, KY jeans manufacturer connected to Rick Pitino through Walter McCarty’s brother.
• Hosts are skeptical but entertained, fact-checking on the fly.

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10. Coaching Candidates & Future Direction (43:09–44:19)

• Caller asks about coaching possibilities if a change is made; Brian Hartline (Ohio State OC) is identified as a potential top candidate due to UK staff connections.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “All you have to do... just put like Kentucky and something relating to the word news in your bio. Right? And then people are like, well, yeah.” —Matt Jones (07:25)
• “I'm a big believer. You don't go to schools where people are wearing khaki pants.” —Matt (37:54)
• “We are so unsmart.” —Matt, on UK’s recent game management issues (32:30)
• “If it's 3 and 9, it's obvious and I think, I think most of us believe that's the direction we're heading.” —Matt (13:20)
• "If you get a limo now, you're basically going, I have $40." —Matt, on blue check marks and perceived credibility (08:04)
• “That’s not. Cheering against them is not something I'll ever do.” —Matt, rebuking the idea of rooting against UK for change (23:44)
• "Six and six would be hard to [fire him]." —Shannon (12:20)
• "Attendance can’t send a statement, because Texas and Tennessee will be crowded... the statement crowd is Tennessee Tech." —Matt (21:07)

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Segment Timestamps

• 00:35–02:46 — Show roll call, setting, and awkwardness
• 02:47–03:29 — Basketball Media Day, new faces, returners
• 04:03–06:41 — Stoops buyout rumor, media spin, clarity
• 06:41–10:26 — Joke news, OC rumors, staff expectations
• 11:19–15:10 — Post-mortem on season, fan base mood
• 21:02–22:16 — Game attendance predictions
• 22:19–24:07 — Caller Adam on 5–7 record, fan perspective
• 24:07–26:53 — Super Bowl halftime show generational gap
• 28:25–30:19 — Denim uniform nostalgia, Kentucky branding
• 37:06–38:12 — Recruiting interlude, staff banter
• 40:41–43:03 — “Truth” caller, denim uniform origin story
• 43:09–44:19 — Future coaching candidates
• Throughout — Satire, side conversations, generational asides

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Tone and Style

The show oscillates between frank, sometimes biting, sports analysis and the quirky, inside-joke-laden camaraderie that defines KSR. Hosts are candid with opinions, prone to gentle ribbing of fans, media, and even themselves. The looming sense of a potential coaching regime change is tempered by familiar UK basketball nostalgia and lighthearted, sometimes downright goofy, tangents.

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This episode is an essential listen for UK fans invested in the current football crisis, media narratives, and the evolving culture of Kentucky athletics. The in-depth, honest discussion—punctuated with KSR’s trademark humor—offers both context and catharsis during a period of uncertainty for Big Blue Nation.

Transcript

[Matt Jones]

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[Drew Franklin]

This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome, everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio Monday, October 6th. I am Matt Jones here on the floor of historic Memorial Coliseum where the UK Volleyball team practices and plays and where later today it is UK basketball media day. Matt Jones, Drew Franklin, Shannon, the dudes. You can give a shout on Clark's puppet Shop phone line 859-280-2287. Avion Auto Glass Text Machine is 772-774-5254. In this edition, sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office, if you call TJ, he'll make them pay. I'm gonna go ahead and tell you this is gonna be one of the. I don't say more awkward shows, but it's going to be one of the more interesting shows in terms of place. Ryan Lemon is not here today. So we are here at media day, but we have a couple things going on. First of all, we have to talk about football. Probably not gonna be a positive conversation. We have to talk about football rumors that include coaches leaving, which is not easy to do when the AD's office is a few steps from us.

[Shannon]

Just on the other side of that wall.

[Matt Jones]

Right, that wall, there's the athletic director. It's basketball media day, and for reasons that I don't understand, we have no players or coaches coming on with us. But that's the way it goes.

[Shannon]

Well, it's media day.

[Matt Jones]

It is media day. But you know what? Today I give them credit for letting us be here. There have been times that they've stood outside the gates with weapons to keep us out. So we are here, but we don't get to talk to anyone. But nevertheless, we're here, and that way we can go to the media day as soon as it's over, hopefully. I'm hoping that Mark Pope or one of the coaches will be sitting in the staff and someone will say, you know what? They're right there on the other side of that wall. They're right there. Because I think if they get that message to them, I do think they would come. But we'll see. But either way, we're here and honestly in the first hour, we probably. We're gonna have to talk some football to begin with. But Drew, it's always cool to be at media day. First one of these I went to was the 2005, 2006 team. Trying to think who was even on that team. That was after the. The whole Bogans crew and all that people. Those people had gone. It was like Ramel and Joe. It was Bobby Perry, that kind of thing. And I've been. I think this is my 20th one.

[Shannon]

It's always fun getting to know the, the new players. It's getting a little different where there's some returners now. For many years, we were literally meeting the entire team for the first time.

[Matt Jones]

Meeting most.

[Shannon]

That's true.

[Matt Jones]

And you've been, guess what? I mean, I know Tre Noah, Brandon Garrison. Right. But like, I'm going to be seen. I've seen Jalen Lowe, I've met him. But outside like Diabate and Cam Williams. And we got some news. Yellow Vic is eligible now. So, I mean, those guys, this will be the first time I've seen them.

[Shannon]

Yeah, it's always, it's always good to just. I know not everyone gets into the nerd now to the media stuff. I hope you'll read and listen to our content, but it's always exciting because, you know, it's not the start of basketball season, but it does kick it up another notch when we finally get out here and get around them.

[Matt Jones]

Well, we'll do a little bit of basketball. As much as you can do on media day with me. No one here with us, but we, we got to talk about football. Are you good?

[Shannon]

No, not, not good at all, to be honest.

[Matt Jones]

I was gonna say, are you good? If we don't talk about the, about the game and we just go do everything else.

[Shannon]

Whatever you want to talk about.

[Matt Jones]

But you. Do you want to talk about the game?

[Shannon]

We, we can. Bali looked all right.

[Matt Jones]

He looked okay.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. He had, he had some moments.

[Shannon]

All right, so that was the game.

[Matt Jones]

Another good end of the first half.

[Shannon]

Oh, just getting pretty tired of those.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean you did. What are you going to do? But so I think every. Really the conversation about UK football is now about what's. What's to come in the next few weeks. You have a buy next week. You're, you're two and three. And let's just go over a timeline of what happened since the last time we were on the radio at Shady Race Lexington. Radio personality Alan Cutler cup man, he. Jimmy. Jimmy. Jimmy. Sources say. Shannon. Sources say no filter. No, no filter. He came out with a report on Friday that sort of got people all up at arms, basically saying that Mark Stoops had gone to Mitch Barnhart and said he wanted out and to let him go. But that Mitch Barnhart said no. We talked about this on the pregame show. You can hear us talk about it pretty extensively. I thought that was a. Not one say incorrect report, but incorrect report. I mean, it wasn't. Well, because I don't want to say. I mean, I'm sure Alan heard that. I'm not disparaging that he heard that, but I don't think that happened. I think in, you know, a better way to characterize because they had a meeting, there was some disputes over some things. And Mark may have said, look, you know, if you don't think this will work out, you can buy me out. That's not the same as going and saying I1 out, which is kind of what I think Alan said, which I think was not the case. Do you agree with that?

[Shannon]

Do. I don't know the specifics of when the conversation happened, who went to who, what exactly was that even. Those are big details. I just remember last season at one point I heard from a couple people in the know that Mark would be willing to take a buyout if they could get to a number, but UK just nowhere near that. And that was kind of all that was. Maybe there was more, but at least on my end of what I heard was Mark was willing to listen. Now I don't know if he approached Mitch first or what. And then that they just couldn't get anywhere even in a ball, I'll be stronger.

[Matt Jones]

Mark. Mark Stoops did not go and say buy me out. Now, I agree with you. If they said, okay, we owe you $40 million, we'll give you 39 not to coach, I'm sure he would take that. Right. But you know, this season I don't think is going well and I don't think it's going to go well. But I also don't think it would be fair to say like, Mark Stoops doesn't want to be here. I don't think that would be. Would you agree? I don't think that would be a fair thing to say.

[Shannon]

And he's a competitor and he's been with these guys since the spring. Obviously not. But internally you're not ahead SEC football coach if you don't have the hunger and the competitive. So, you know, I think he wants to see this through and finish it, even though the rest of us on the outside looking in don't have a lot of optimism and how that will look.

[Matt Jones]

So then all that stuff happened Saturday. Now we have a bye week. And we talked on the postgame show on Saturday about how, you know, if you're going to make any kind of change, you would do it like today. Now we got media day, which is probably not something they want to stomp on. So maybe you. I mean, I don't know, maybe you wait till tomorrow, but you probably. But let's do percentage chance there was some random person who put online that Mark Stoops was going to be let let go today. People, for whatever reason, just believe that. I don't understand. All you have to do, Shannon, just put like, Kentucky and then something relating to the word news in your bio. Right? And then people are like, well, yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, but if it's on Facebook, people take that as truth.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, they do. They take it as gospel. Like, literally. We've entered a society where NBC News could report something. People go, I don't believe it. And then Kentucky Butt News can put it, and they'll go, do you see this, Matt? Is this true? Yeah.

[Shannon]

Like, there's so many fake reporters. A lot of this is in sports that people fall for it. Like, if you just wear a suit in your profile picture and put like four letters like wvgt, people would be like, well, this guy they work for wvgt, this guy's report that they're canceling the season. I mean, you can put anything.

[Matt Jones]

You don't listen to wvgt.

[Drew Franklin]

It's got a blue check mark. I mean, he paid $5. Blue check mark.

[Matt Jones]

He's got a blue check mark. He has $5. It's like that joke from what comedian who says, you know, if you get a limo now, you're basically going, I have $40. I have it. But anyway, we believe there's zero percent chance Mark stoops is not the coach. Correct.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I mean, now I just.

[Shannon]

Don'T, you know, I'm as upset with anyone. I just don't know what doing it now would get you. At least let him finish the year. If nothing else, just let him take the losses. So it's, you know, you're firm in the decision. I don't know if you did it right now. I don't even know what the move would be. Because if you hand it to Brad White, you know, and then he gets on a little run, then it's like, well, now do I have to keep Brad White or.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, there's no. There's no upside.

[Shannon]

Yeah. I just don't know why it wouldn't.

[Matt Jones]

It wouldn't do anything. So then the second part was, and we did discuss this on the postgame show, if you were gonna make an OC change, maybe you would do that. ESPN Radio Lexington, which I didn't know had a Twitter account. Okay. I really. I didn't until yesterday. It just put out as if it was fact. Bush, Hampden, Bush. Haven't. Will be let go Tuesday just said it.

[Shannon]

That's the letters ESPN that people says espn.

[Matt Jones]

And it didn't have a blue check mark. I'll note or fade.

[Shannon]

It's just like an ESPN logo.

[Matt Jones]

And so then I understand why people would give that some credibility. Yeah, I understand that. Because it's ESPN Radio Lexington now. That's not this station. That's. That's. That's a different one. That's the one Cup Man's on. I didn't buy it. And quickly. Well, an hour or two later, they. They deleted the tweet. And it said, according to Steve Tressler and a former player, that's what they're hearing. Who's Steve Tress?

[Shannon]

I know Steve. He's a fan of the show.

[Matt Jones]

Who is he?

[Shannon]

Well, he does ESPN radio. He does Legends, so, I mean, that's.

[Matt Jones]

At least a name.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

All right. So I mean that I'm glad someone puts a name to it. I made some calls last night. I'm told that's not going to happen. And I was told if it were to happen, we would let you know, and I don't think that's going to happen. So I think Bush Hampden will probably finish it as well. I don't. I don't. I don't. You know, who knows? Things can always change. But I think you'll. We get to. We get the Bush the rest of the year, too.

[Shannon]

I think so, too. Barring, you know, if they were to go four weeks without a point or something, then you might revisit it.

[Matt Jones]

I just got a text message from Amy McGrath.

[Shannon]

She's running.

[Matt Jones]

You know, Matt, it's Amy McGrath.

[Shannon]

She's back.

[Matt Jones]

No, this is like, it's not just to me. This is Matt Damon Grant. I'm running for U.S. senate. Here's why. So I can lose by a lot again. Okay, go ahead.

[Shannon]

I thought she's like, hey, Matt, I'm running for Senate. Do you have any TV shows right now? I'm Hungry, Hungry for blood.

[Caller]

No, I don't.

[Shannon]

You know, I don't think Hampton needs to stick around too long unless this changes. But doing it right now in the bye week again, I guess that could be stoops, trying to send a message and get some, some excitement a little bit back or at least show that he's done something. But I don't expect it to.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I don't either. So. So we are where we are. Postgame show was. I mean, it wasn't a bundle of joy in terms of what people's thoughts were.

[Shannon]

Oh, by the way, thanks for giving me South Carolina, my first career post game show. That was fun.

[Matt Jones]

Well, yeah, Georgia was fun too. This fan base is like they're out, right? I mean, they're out. So is there anything you can do? Is there. Let me just put like that. Well, okay, you say that, but let's, let's just go through the numbers. If we finish 3 and 9, then it's obvious there'll be no supporters.

[Shannon]

I keep saying football doesn't have an equivalent of basketball like St. Peter's or an Oakland. You just know like that's unacceptable.

[Matt Jones]

Three and nine, though, is St. Peter.

[Shannon]

I'm saying three and nine after not winning a home game last year. And well, you know, all the numbers we go through, that's about as close as you can get to having an Oakland moment.

[Matt Jones]

Right. So, so, so three and nine is Oakland. I don't think they have a choice. Four is pretty close to Oakland and I don't think they have a choice. Six and six. I don't think you could. I don't think you could fire him because he made a bowl.

[Shannon]

Six and six would be hard to.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think you could improve. I think, I think the number that would make everything miserable is 5 and 7 because that would mean that you beat a couple of good teams. Because to get to five, to get to four, we're going to beat somebody good. And to get to five, we're going to have to be two somebody's that are good. That would be hard because I still don't think anybody would be excited.

[Shannon]

And you're probably. To get there. You probably will have won the Governor's cup in the last game of the year, which is just another, you know, big check mark for a season.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but you can't get to five till you get to four. And we're not assured to get to three because Tennessee Tech is 6. 0.

[Shannon]

They keep drilling teams 70 a game.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So there is a sense of I mean, we're going to win that one, but, you know, we got it.

[Shannon]

Well, I don't know. We'll be limping into that one. They'll be fired up.

[Matt Jones]

There might be 43 people at that game.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, it's going to be a noon start.

[Shannon]

Yeah. I mean, if it's 3 and 9, it's obvious and I think, I think most of us believe that's the direction we're heading. There's just, to me, there's no sense in doing anything this moment. At least let him finish it out at that point. If he doesn't win, then, you know.

[Matt Jones]

Well, so, so let's just kind of summarize. We both believe that when we play Texas in two weeks, we will have the same staff we have now.

[Shannon]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. We both believe that if they were to finish with three or four wins, UK will have to make a decision.

[Shannon]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

And not just a decision, a change. Right.

[Shannon]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

And I think we've three is certain.

[Shannon]

Four is like 90%.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. And then if they were to win six, we think we'd be running it back.

[Drew Franklin]

Build a statue.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know if we'll build a statue, but I think we'd be running back and then five would be the one that. I don't think anybody wants to predict what happens. The athletic article, by the way, that I talked about last week, it did come out and there's some quotes from me in it, but there's also other stuff. And then basically the premise of the article is. Yeah, probably time for separation. You don't really want that to be on the national media with seven games to go in the season.

[Shannon]

Yeah. I got a New York Times, like email with links. You know, it's New York.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, they made the links for the New York Times.

[Shannon]

I mean. Yeah, New York Times.

[Matt Jones]

Because the Atlantic.

[Shannon]

So, yeah, I mean, it's. That one's getting a lot of eyeballs on it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Usually when it's in the New York Times, no big thing.

[Shannon]

Hey, Kentucky football made the New York Times.

[Matt Jones]

One way to look at it. We made the New York Times.

[Shannon]

The five win thing though, to make the basketball comparison again. It's like we talked about what if California, you know, loses a close one in the.

[Matt Jones]

No.

[Shannon]

In the Sweet 16.

[Matt Jones]

It would have been a Sweet 16 loss. But to like, it's like a big favorite. But to Drake.

[Shannon]

Yeah. As an 8 point favorite, it's like, well, we don't know what to do now. That's what five.

[Matt Jones]

That's exactly what it would be 859-280-2287 we are here just mere feet away from Mitch Barnhart having to have this conversation.

[Shannon]

They close the blinds?

[Matt Jones]

Not at all. He did close the. Be right back. Sksr.

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back Tech Esports radio. I think the combination of us having to be a little bit quiet and the fact that it's media day with no basketball players and the fact that like the football thing happened, I think you're going to get giddy. Matt and Drew, we were up late. I think we were up late doing cover zero, which they still haven't released yet. Glad we stayed up to 1am for that.

[Caller]

I like that.

[Drew Franklin]

They also just close the blondes on you like they don't even want to look at you. They want to see your face.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So I mean like the combination of all that, I think you're gonna get a giddy mat. I just got a text alert from I guess. I guess Reparita sends this. It says breaking news, Sherry Shepard is coming to the opera house.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, hang on. Breaking news.

[Matt Jones]

Sherry Shepard. Is that the woman from the View? Is that. I don't know. I think she was the woman for the View that replaced I'm a lawyer. Star Jones. Star Jones. Look that up and see if she's the woman from the View, Shannon. Because if so, then I think I have to go.

[Shannon]

I'm mad I didn't get an alert. I usually get the alerts.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, she is from the View.

[Matt Jones]

She is from the View. That's what I thought.

[Drew Franklin]

She has her own show called Sherry.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, she has our own show called Sherry.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, it's a Daytime talk show.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, man, I haven't gotten to check Sherry out.

[Shannon]

The group triple now.

[Matt Jones]

It was good breaking news. Go Sherry Shepherd. All right. 859-280-22-287. One person writes, Matt, there will be multiple Kentucky Bud News accounts because of you. No, I. Listen, I'm all for the hustle of these young, because I think it's mostly young guys or women, like, trying to make it and create accounts and calling them Kentucky Hoops or Kentucky I. But I would just say to you guys, like, like, you want to have credibility. You can't just throw something out there and be wrong now. I mean, look, if something happens with, with Stoops or Bush today, then I'll say, hey, Kentucky Hoops in your ear, way to go. But, like, you want to build a following, you. You need to be right. And I think, at least in this case, certainly on the Stoops News, it's not right. And I'm pretty sure on the Bush news, it's not either. That one I wouldn't like go to the bank with. But I do think I'll go to the bank with the Stoops.

[Shannon]

I mean, we could believe the Bushman if it happened, even though we don't think it's going to happen. And for me, it's. It's not the people trying to make it that have their name on it. It's like the anonymous accounts where there's no consequences. Like, you just throw stuff out.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

And if it's right, you get a hundred thousand retweets. And if it's wrong, you're.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Nobody even knows who you are.

[Matt Jones]

That's just kind of the. The world today. Let me ask, how did the next eight weeks go?

[Shannon]

I'm afraid we all know exactly how it's going to go.

[Matt Jones]

How's that?

[Shannon]

I mean, I don't think they're going to win a game outside of Tennessee, three and nine. I could have. I still think Texas has me thrown off.

[Matt Jones]

I think they still won. I think they're going to end up winning one game between Florida, Texas, Vandy, Auburn, Louisville. They're going to win one of those. I don't know how it'll happen, but they'll win one of them. And then when that happens, I think there'll be a lot of, like, rally around the Chiefs. But I think if you don't win more than one, I don't think it changes the calculus. I mean, we won one of them last year against Ole Miss. Right.

[Shannon]

My concern is that was early in the season I worry about just how the locker room will be when you get to Florida because I think Florida's beatable. But if you still haven't won at that point and Texas and Tennessee have kicked your butt, I wonder just how focused Kentucky is going to be at that point.

[Matt Jones]

You could end Arch Manning's draft prospects in two weeks.

[Shannon]

Yeah, I think Arch might have serious.

[Matt Jones]

If he were to come down here and lose to us.

[Shannon]

But you have a lot of guys that it's, you know, some of them said on the show this is their last season, it's their one and done year. If you get to the end of November and you haven't won a game yet, I wonder about Kentucky keeping its focus.

[Matt Jones]

I think that's a fair. I mean, you saw it beatable at.

[Shannon]

The end, if you have it together.

[Matt Jones]

You saw a little bit out on the end of this, at the end of the sideline, at the end of the game. I mean, there were some, some shots of guys on the sideline that didn't look good and you know, we saw a little bit of that at the end of the season last year, but there's still seven games left. What I mean, yeah, Virginia for beating Louisville.

[Shannon]

Yeah, you hate it. I'm now 50 in the KSR parlay this year, by the way. I can't really, cannot carry you all forever.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean I'm, I'm three years here. Yeah, I'm three zero. I just have missed a couple, but I'm through. Yeah, it's, it's riding Shannon. The way is down, but yeah, I.

[Drew Franklin]

Think I've won a couple at least. But yeah, that was a terrible loss. I mean, Texas or Florida felt like a, an easy pick.

[Shannon]

I loved your flow, your pick.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

So that was shocking. But a little losing, that helps.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but, but do you. Okay, so what's the attendance going to be like for Texas?

[Shannon]

That's the thing. You can't, the fans can't send a statement because Texas and Tennessee will be crowded.

[Matt Jones]

So they might be, they might be orange isn't the statement is Tennessee Tech. I mean, the statement crowd is Tennessee Tech. Because you're right, you're going to have a big crowd for Texas. You're going to have a big crowd for Tennessee and you're probably going to have a decent crowd for Florida, although Florida doesn't travel like these other schools, but it's still Florida. So I, I think to the extent there's going to be a statement crowd, it's going to be Tennessee Tech and unfortunately that's homecoming, you know, I think Kentucky. Did they play in, like, Madison Square Garden or something the night before? Like, I. That's not gonna be good. Yeah. Or no, is that the Saturday? Well, I don't know. It's still not.

[Shannon]

It's up against something being that late in the year. I don't have the calendar for me, but, yeah, like Texas and Tennessee. I have people coming to stay with me. It's like people planned it, you know, a year ago and kind of don't even care about the result. It's just Keeneland and the game they have on the schedule to get to Lexington. So I still think that one will be a good crowd. And it. Florida, I think we'll see. But at that point, it's so far down the schedule, it might be a. Who cares across the board if they have. Yeah, they get their butt kicked at home two more times.

[Matt Jones]

859-280-2287. Who's up first? Shit.

[Drew Franklin]

Adam.

[Matt Jones]

Adam. Go ahead, Adam.

[Caller]

Hey, what's up, Matt? What's going on, man? Here's the thing. If they were to go 5 and 7 this year, I would be excited for this season. You know, I want to be Tennessee. I want to beat Louisville. I want to be Florida. So those wins would be great, but it still would not get me excited for the future of the program. Does that make sense?

[Matt Jones]

It does make sense. I actually. Totally. That's why I think that is why I think that would be the worst record. Because if you got to five, you would have had a couple wins. That would be really big wins. I mean, you would have beaten. You would have beaten either Texas and Arch Manning. Tennessee, your biggest rival, Louisville, your other biggest rival, or Auburn and Vandy on the road, which normally wouldn't sound like a ton, but they're both pretty good this year. So, like, you're right. You would have two good wins, but I wouldn't be excited about next year. It's not like I'd be sitting there going, well, we're building on this, right?

[Shannon]

There's also the whole.

[Matt Jones]

Go ahead, Adam.

[Caller]

I don't hate Stoops. You know, I appreciate what he's done for the program, but it's like, man, I hate to cheer against the program, but three will be an easy decision.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but you can't do that. I. I fight against that, and I appreciate the call. I fight against any cheering against the. Like, that. That. That, to me, would not be acceptable. Do you agree?

[Shannon]

Especially with the teams left, I'm not rolling over for Tennessee Or Louisville not giving into that at all.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's my team.

[Shannon]

To win every day.

[Matt Jones]

That's not. Cheering against them is not something I'll ever do.

[Shannon]

No, same here. But we don't get a better draft pick if we tank or anything.

[Matt Jones]

Exactly. You play Louisville in that last game and you get it. It's five. You're still beating Louisville on their home field. You want that, right? If you're a Kentucky fan. We'll take a break. Be right back. Ksr, TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call tj. He'll make him pay.

[Drew Franklin]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, this is little Bad Bunny. That happened while I was gone. Holla.

[Caller]

Hey.

[Drew Franklin]

I like Ric Flair's just random woo. Yeah, like in the middle of it.

[Matt Jones]

It's great. I, I, I, I. This is the only song I know and I just know it because it's this WWE entrance music. So he's gonna be playing the Super Bowl. We always have this conversation every year is an artist big enough to play the Super Bowl. And last year that had Kendrick. That was the highest rated super bowl ever. Or it was higher than even the Michael Jackson one. What do you think about Bad Bunny? Second most streamed artist in the world.

[Shannon]

Yeah, no, I see why they did it.

[Matt Jones]

The most streamed artist.

[Shannon]

Yeah, he's definitely big enough. For me personally though, it's like a, it's like the turning of a page in my book of life. Like this is the year where I.

[Matt Jones]

Don'T know it anymore.

[Shannon]

Like, I know Bad Bunny and I know, you know, I've seen his intro at WWE and he's this big entertainer. Seen the snl. Very familiar. But if you were to say, write down some Bad Bunny songs. I couldn't, couldn't name one.

[Matt Jones]

I got one. Bear. Holla. That one right there.

[Shannon]

So, so you still got it.

[Matt Jones]

You're still young.

[Shannon]

I've accepted that I'm gonna be the person at the Super Bowl.

[Matt Jones]

I have one of his pairs of sneakers.

[Shannon]

See, look, you're, you're like a kid over here.

[Matt Jones]

No, I, I, but I don't know anything about him. I, I won't know any of his songs, but he's definitely big enough stuff. Like, but it is attorney. I agree with you. It's a turning to the page. Like everybody before, like the Bruno Mars and all those guys, I was like, well, I mean, I, I've. At least I'm familiar with the music. This is definitely a turning of the page. Like from now on, it's Going to be all like, Charlie X1V or something. And I'm gonna go, yeah. I don't know who that is. So, Shannon, it is like. I do think Bad Bunny doing the halftime is kind of a we're old moment.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I mean, I'm aware that he exists, but I'm like, you guys, I don't know any of his music, but if you're the most streamed artist, if that's.

[Matt Jones]

You think you gotta do it, then.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I don't understand. I hear people got upset. That didn't make any sense to me. Did they think that the Super Bowl. The super bowl has to be like, what you like?

[Drew Franklin]

I think they do everybody like.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, if it were me, is it just be Tyler Childers every halftime? And I think at some point America would say, can we get someone else? I'd just be like, look, Tyler Childers, Sturgill. But the first half of his career.

[Shannon]

Is Sturgill. Go with that.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know if Sturgill's okay with Sturgis.

[Shannon]

Like, I guess I got to do.

[Matt Jones]

This for Matt, ignoring everything he's done the last seven years except the bluegrass album. And then I guess Stapleton, I don't know. And Dolly. But 50, like, 40 years ago, Dolly.

[Shannon]

I'm super bold to put together.

[Matt Jones]

I just think that that would be a hard one. So I understand that they are like, hey, Spanish is. You know, a lot of the world speaks it. Let's have this guy. I understand why that's going.

[Shannon]

No, I'm all good with it. I'm just. I'm having a hard time because for years I was the person in front of the tv, and I'm looking back at the older people at the party, and they're eating chips like, what is this?

[Matt Jones]

Why aren't they playing the who?

[Shannon]

I'm having to explain. Who? Who, Nel. Like, you should listen to country grammar, Mom. It's a good song.

[Matt Jones]

But now Chief Allen's not available.

[Shannon]

Now I'm gonna be the old person at the party, and you're gonna have to tell me. So that's. That's my whole thing with it is I'm just having to accept that the.

[Matt Jones]

Only old group, Shannon, I think, should get a ride at it because they've never done it, is Metallica. They should give Metallica a year.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Because I don't think they've ever done it. And that's like the one old group that I think. I think even the kids could get with Metallica for one year. Don't you?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I wonder if they would want to do it, though.

[Matt Jones]

What do they got better to do?

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, they're still selling out stadiums.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think they'll be fine if, if, if Bad Bunny can do it. Metallica, they can arrange it in their schedule. I feel like.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know, they would want to do it.

[Matt Jones]

But you think Metallica is too big for the Super Bowl, Shannon?

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, for free, though. They're going to be playing free, I think. I don't think they. I don't think Metallica.

[Matt Jones]

Well, then. Well, that is true. They were the Napster people.

[Drew Franklin]

Like who? Yeah, exactly.

[Shannon]

And who they were.

[Drew Franklin]

They were Metallica.

[Matt Jones]

The thing about Metallica, I love Metallica, but there is a sense of like, you're rock Fight the power and you were sued Napster.

[Drew Franklin]

Right. You know, that whole charge.

[Matt Jones]

They did lead that whole charge. All right. 859280, 2287. I'm going to go through some other little things. Obviously football is probably going to be the big topic. They're bringing back the denim uniforms. You glad about that?

[Shannon]

Very glad.

[Matt Jones]

They're going to. Pope told a group on Friday, hoops and heels. What is that?

[Shannon]

It's like one of the fundraiser women's things for women, I believe.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, well, there might have been other.

[Shannon]

People out there wearing heels. I wasn't there to see mostly women.

[Matt Jones]

He told the women and Billy at hoops and heels that, that, that they were gonna have denim uniforms for multiple games this year. You like that?

[Shannon]

I like it a lot. That's. I'm that perfect age where I was a kid. Turned about 10 years old when they broke them out. I went to Patino's camp where like everything was Converse blue. I still have a lot of it, so I'm excited to have them bring it back.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, me too. So St. John's probably the first game.

[Shannon]

Don't you think it's our road trip too?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think that's where you break about. Break them out against St. John's and pick. One sec. Home game and then we roll. That's what I, I would do with it if I was.

[Shannon]

I want the road. I want the roads, though, because they were the actual true denim. The home whites had the denim numbers.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe we do that.

[Shannon]

Yeah. I want a road game. I want full denim.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. All right. Well, so I, I am glad about that. I think it's cool. I think it's. It really is something for people though, our age. Like, I like younger people. Don't even.

[Shannon]

Oh, no, if like I just turned 40 me then people around that age, it's perfect.

[Matt Jones]

It's really like programmed for people in their 40s.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

That just love that this is the moment. You know what society all our politicians are older than you. All the pop culture is younger than you. This is the only thing you get. You all get the denim uniforms. That's what you get.

[Shannon]

And I cannot wait and I hope that UK will keep doing this. Like two years ago they started. They wore the 94s and I thought we're going to start a trend and they haven't done anything else. But we have so many uniforms that people love and Kentucky has not been good about getting alternates mixing up Louisville. To their credit.

[Matt Jones]

They do it all the time.

[Shannon]

They have awesome. Bring back old logos. Kentucky needs to do. Do better.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. What's a good start? Good start with the denim and we'll hopefully see get what's in them to get a victory. All right, what's next year?

[Drew Franklin]

Let's go to Austin.

[Matt Jones]

Austin, go ahead.

[Caller]

Hey guys. First time, long time.

[Matt Jones]

Who.

[Caller]

So my. I listened to the postgame show yesterday and my biggest takeaway from the game, nobody mentioned after that Seth McGowan fumble. Our only player, only staff member trying to get the ball snapped as a red shirt freshman quarterback making his fourth.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that was. That was. You're right. That was a disaster.

[Caller]

That's the most incriminating thing on the coaching staff that I've seen in a long time. How do we not get that ball snatched?

[Matt Jones]

Well, that was to me and I appreciate the call. The end of the first half is symbolic of. Of why this is in my opinion not going to get better. You actually were had a good draft drive. The end of the first half was the best we looked the whole game. That, that drive. Great play calling. Cutter was on. On the money on his throws. Good mix of run and pass. It was probably the best of what Bush Hampden's trying to do. And then what happens? You get in your own way, right. You. You waste time. Jesse Palmer calls it out in the moment between his Golden Bachelor promos. He is calling out how bad our play calling is and he's correct.

[Shannon]

This is terrible.

[Matt Jones]

This is. He said this is terrible. This is a man who goes on the Golden Bachelor and he thinks this is terrible. He's like, this is terrible. And no one. And then we get down there and we have a call. That's close. Cutter. It seems like the only person that realizes it. No coaches are telling them to go the offensive line is like playing wordle in their head and no one's snapping it. And he's sitting there going like this and then it's too late. And we. And we lose the review. I mean, I mean that is just the combination of wasting time and then not seizing the moment. This is what I talk about, about the fact we do not play smart. You hear me say the word smart a lot about like the next coach or Mark Pope. Smart matters. Talent is more important than smart. But smart can go a long, long way. And we are so unsmart.

[Shannon]

I was wondering what word you were.

[Matt Jones]

Gonna say there, but it's true. Like we don't do the intelligent thing. And that was a perfect example, that draft.

[Shannon]

What made that worse is that's not the first time this year where they knew a challenge flag was coming from their team. I forget the exact game, but it's one of the first weeks we hit a guy down the sideline that wasn't a catch that they called a catch. And we're all yelling, just snap the ball. Do anything. Snap it and throw it in the crowd. Just do not let them review it. We don't get the playoff. It gets turned. It's the same. It doesn't matter the play you run. Jagger Burton should run to the football and just snap it as quickly as he can to anything. So you can lock that in. But once again, only one person, our 19 year old redshirt freshman is the.

[Matt Jones]

Only one that, I mean, credit to him for getting it and knowing it, but like he can't be the only one that realizes is snap.

[Shannon]

And that's like basic football. If there's a questionable call and you have the ball, go snap as fast as you can.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean part of it is we just sort of in general think the pace of a snail is the way to live. Live life. Maybe if, you know, just occasionally have a different pace.

[Shannon]

We've had two ABC games this year and in both of them the first half ended with us being laughed at. I'm not. They were openly making fun of Kentucky on both ABC broadcasts.

[Matt Jones]

Somebody wrote me, I don't want to say their name but. But I will. Todd. And he says, I completely understand. I'm not the demographic for bad Bad Bunny, but my high school age kids aren't even really familiar with his music. Okay. I love you, Todd. Your kids go to Lexington Christian.

[Shannon]

That narrows it down.

[Matt Jones]

I'm just saying, like there are other Democrats fix besides Lexington Christian. That's not a shock to me that they're not bumping Bad Bunny at lca. Okay, but maybe other schools. Am I wrong?

[Shannon]

Mario, what was the song? Holla.

[Caller]

Hola.

[Shannon]

What's the one?

[Matt Jones]

You know what I mean? We can't act like that's where all the trends. All right?

[Shannon]

There are numbers. Bad Bunny does well.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean, they have. This is not my opinion. He's the most streamed artist in the world now. Maybe they don't get it at lca.

[Shannon]

But we're all going to learn Bad Bunny together.

[Matt Jones]

Sorry. I just felt. I think that was fair. Court physical therapy. Mario and I were playing volleyball earlier. If one of us had gotten hurt, we could have gone to court Physical theory. We would have been Mario. Because he can't move. Court k o r t.com it's court physical therapy. No reason to live in pain. They'll help work it out. Make it to where you're like, it didn't even happen before. They accept almost all insurance. It's court physicaltherapy.krt.com 70 locations around the state with court. See, I told you I was gonna be in one of these moods. Just something about just being me and you.

[Shannon]

Well, I. I intentionally try to goofy.

[Matt Jones]

It up every time, but there's something about just being me and you. And then we're in this place where we have to whisper. And now I think the volleyball team's coming out here. Or maybe somebody's on a tour recruiting visit. Oh, this will rec. Creedy. Who is this kid?

[Shannon]

I don't know. We're gonna get in trouble.

[Matt Jones]

Who is this kid? I don't know. What's his name? I hope you like the place, Mario. We could. We could get some scoop here. Mario, you're supposed to. You're supposed to know who that is.

[Shannon]

Oh, man. He looks like he likes the place.

[Matt Jones]

He looks like he's good. Mario.

[Shannon]

Mario.

[Matt Jones]

Go. Is that. Who is that? We'll be right back.

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back, Turkey Sports Radio. All right, we did some research. Darren Rippey Jr that's who just walked through here. He's like a great player and he's.

[Shannon]

Like, oh, he's our top guard.

[Matt Jones]

We're trying to get him to be like our point guard. Right?

[Shannon]

Yeah. Well, when Tay Kenny from Kentucky went elsewhere, it was kind of like. It's all right. We're watching.

[Matt Jones]

When he walked through here, just so you know, when he walks. Walked through here, I was looking at him. I'm. I'm calling a commitment. Oh, I can see it on his face.

[Shannon]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Did you see it? Did you see the way he was like, yeah, this is it. I can see it in his eyes. He's coming here.

[Shannon]

Are we worried that, like, Billy was around?

[Matt Jones]

You think you might see Billy? Well, I do. I do. If we. If he doesn't come, it's probably because he saw Billy. Because Billy's wearing khaki pants.

[Shannon]

He did dress up for this from State Farm.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I'm a big believer. You don't get go to schools where people are wearing khaki pants. So I do think I. We got to make sure that Darren Rippey did not think Billy was on the staff. We got. You need Mario, you need to go to Darren Rippy and go and make sure it's with the Billy. You. He knows Billy has nothing to do with this program.

[Shannon]

Mario, let's go up. Point at Billy, Mario, and go. Did you see Louisville's director of basketball operations this year?

[Matt Jones]

Did you see him? I'm sorry. I apologize to people listening. I knew this was going to happen. I knew this week. I knew this was going to happen. How are you all giving the people what they want? I knew the fact I couldn't just be mad. I was. I did the mad on the postgame show. I was in Mad Goes to Giddy for me.

[Shannon]

Ryan's not here to keep us in check.

[Matt Jones]

One person writes. Yeah, one person writes. Matt, why do the don't the opinions of the kids at LCA matter? Why do you always have to make fun of people who disagree with you?

[Caller]

You.

[Matt Jones]

Because I. I don't understand why people believe. Shannon, you and I talk about this all the time. Why do people believe? Everything has to appeal to them. You know what I mean.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Like, why do you believe the super bowl halftime show is required to appeal to you? Like, you don't get to decide everything, Right?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Well, I mean, that's. People that think that, I guess, they're entitled, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, like.

[Matt Jones]

Like, at this point, like, 50% of the country is not. Is a. Is minority. And, like, 25% Spanish, or 20. I don't know what the number is. But, like, Spanish is their first language. Yeah. They get one, they get a show for them, Everything doesn't have to be Jason Aldean.

[Shannon]

That would be a terrible halftime show.

[Matt Jones]

So, you know, it's not required for you to like it. And by the way, if you're listening to this show, chances are very high you're watching the super bowl anyway, so they're not trying to get you to tune in. They're trying to get to people who don't tune in to tune in.

[Shannon]

I mean, the super bowl is obviously not tailored to me. I'm a Titans fan.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, how about your win yesterday? Here we go. What an insane win.

[Shannon]

For what?

[Matt Jones]

An insane victory.

[Shannon]

We still ask, but sometimes the ball bounces your way. Nine or ten times in the fourth quarter. That was just a blooper reel for the Cardinals.

[Matt Jones]

Ridiculous.

[Shannon]

I said this on Cover Zero last night. But if you played that fourth quarter a hundred times, Arizona would win by at least 15. Not even almost all of them.

[Matt Jones]

Darren Rippey. We're reporting he's coming to Kentucky right after we saw him walk through here. All right.

[Shannon]

Did you see the way he looked up at the lights? They have the nice lights on, by the way.

[Matt Jones]

He did, though, frown at Billy. That's the thing that worries me. They're going. We. We've put a hindrance into this recruitment.

[Shannon]

Why is Billy just walking around in here anyway? What could he possibly be doing?

[Matt Jones]

Shannon, Billy's walking like he owns this place in here. Go ahead.

[Drew Franklin]

If we don't get the commitment we're blaming it on Billy, then.

[Matt Jones]

All right, who's next?

[Shannon]

The truth.

[Matt Jones]

Truth. What's up, Truth?

[Caller]

Hey, man, I got a question. I heard you talking about the Dinner Jeans.

[Matt Jones]

About what?

[Caller]

Did you know where that. You know, you was talking about the. The new. The Dinner Jeans.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you mean the uniforms. Yes, yes.

[Caller]

Yeah. Did you know where that ideal came from?

[Matt Jones]

Where?

[Caller]

From a guy in Henderson, Kentucky, who was a good friend of good Latino. He owned a business, a denim machine. A denim place for blue jeans and him but Tino Real.

[Matt Jones]

All right, hang on. True. So the way you're Telling me. I want to make sure I get my facts straight here. You're telling me that Rick Patino got the idea to have denim uniforms because a guy in Henderson makes Jeep.

[Caller]

He owns the company.

[Matt Jones]

He owns the company. I'm throwing the challenge. I'm throwing the challenge flag. Do you have any proof? Truth. Do you have any proof of that?

[Caller]

Yep. Yep. Because you know who worked for him, who worked for basketball player Walter McCarty. Love to work for him.

[Shannon]

Okay, so McCarty was.

[Matt Jones]

All right. Well, that is a connection. So you're saying Walt. All right, now, I just want to get clear. Walter McCarty's brother works at the Gene place in Henderson, and that's how they got the idea to have the denim uniforms.

[Caller]

All right, I didn't know Dale Sight. He's a big.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know Dale Sykes, but. So Dale Sykes is the reason you're saying.

[Caller]

Yeah. He owned the blue jean.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. We're going to get our researchers on it. True. And I will say this. If you're right, that is an interesting piece of UK history. If you're right about that, that would be really interesting. Thank you. Truth. Good to hear from you. I think I'm gonna lean towards. He's wrong, Shannon. Right or wrong for the truth there.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm gonna say he completely made that up.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

True.

[Matt Jones]

Right or wrong.

[Shannon]

I'm gonna go wrong. I have a lot of ties to Henderson, Kentucky. I got my driver's license suspended there. I've been to that beautiful movie theater right there on the corner many times by the Taco John's and trees and trails. Friends love Henderson, Mr. Beast.

[Matt Jones]

I think we got bedbugs one time in Henderson.

[Shannon]

See, I mean, the memories we can. We have. I don't believe this, though. I think Converse probably had a big role in it.

[Matt Jones]

Probably.

[Shannon]

But, you know.

[Caller]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

Well, somebody want to get in the.

[Shannon]

Way of a good story.

[Matt Jones]

No. 772-774-5254. Who's next?

[Drew Franklin]

Let's go to Hunter.

[Matt Jones]

Hunter, how are you, Hunter? Hey, Hunter.

[Shannon]

I have the Gene Company, by the way, that he's brought up. It is a nationally recognized Gene company.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. I believe the company exists. Just. I'm talking about the uniforms, but go ahead, Hunter.

[Caller]

So I want to bring up somebody that I haven't heard be talked about. Matt Hartline or Mike Har.

[Matt Jones]

Mike Heartland.

[Caller]

Yeah. Right. So I don't. I know he does something with the offense. Not really sure.

[Matt Jones]

That's his brother Brian. That's his brother Brian.

[Caller]

Okay. He. Mike is on UK staff, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yes. I think you're right. Yes. Yeah.

[Shannon]

We have Mike.

[Caller]

Yeah. So his brother Brian is OC Of. Of Ohio State.

[Matt Jones]

Correct.

[Caller]

Is there any chance that he could be on one of Mitch's little sticky notes in the desk?

[Matt Jones]

I think he would be, yes. I do think. I do think on that list would. He would be on it, yes.

[Caller]

Okay, good. So obviously you can't fire Soups and hire somebody like that in the middle of the season. So if you're Barnhart and you have two weeks. Weeks to sit here and ponder if we get beat next week or whenever. What. What's your move? If you're in his shoes, what are you doing?

[Matt Jones]

It's a good question. We got to go to break. I'll deal with it. When we come back, we will talk a little basketball with all of the folks here that we're interviewing. We'll be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

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