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Shannon
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Ryan Lemond
Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287 Text Machine 7727745254 Kurt Signetti, by the way, 64 years old. So he's six years older than Stoops. But the fact I thought he was.
Matt Jones
Young, I, I thought he was young.
Ryan Lemond
But that also says to me he's doing it. So I mean maybe the fair way to put it is it's not age mentality and there are a lot of new head coaches. He is a new, newer head. But like maybe the, the way to put it is it's not so much what your physical age is. Are you coaching? Is your mindset to the new way of doing college football? I, I would have a rule if I was an ad, if I was considering hiring a coach and I heard them one time in public in a press conference bitch about the transfer portal and nil. I wouldn't hire.
Drew
So you're not locked in.
Ryan Lemond
I wouldn't hire him.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
If you're complaining about a system that is not changing, gotta adapt. Then I'm not hiring.
Matt Jones
Yep, you gotta adapt.
Ryan Lemond
If you're sitting there hoping that the Supreme Court after they had a 90 opinion is gonna flip, then I'm not hiring you. This isn't for you anymore. It's just not now. If you want to say I wish it was this and hopefully it'll change, that's different. But if you get There and go, you know, right now, like, Mike Gundy should be a perfect example. He's. He's complaining. He's complaining. Dabo. Would you hire Dabo right now? No. No way. No way.
Drew
It's like that at any job. Imagine, heck, you work for I Heart, and you come in, in your interview, you're like, oh, I really don't like being around radio from 10 to 12, but I would love to work here.
Ryan Lemond
It'd be like working at a radio station 10 years ago, as Shannon and I used to have, and listening to people complain about podcast. Get rid of that person.
Shannon
Yeah, well, that was our boss that we could.
Ryan Lemond
That was our boss. And I would say, will you put this on podcast? And they're like, no, podcast is ruined radio. And I was like, well, we'll be here longer than you, because podcast is not going anywhere.
Matt Jones
That's one thing, I think, that made Caliperi so successful. He was always a little ahead of.
Ryan Lemond
The curve, but now he's not.
Matt Jones
Now he's not.
Ryan Lemond
But now he's not.
Matt Jones
He used to be.
Ryan Lemond
He used to be. But then that was a change he was comfortable with. Then came changes he wasn't. You remember what Cal said when they first started nil, we don't need to do that here.
Matt Jones
Oh, that's right, he did. Yeah, he did.
Ryan Lemond
Remember when he said that? And we were like, yeah, he's right. It's Kentucky. We don't need to do that here. Well, you know what that was? That was the canary in the coal mine that said, eh, maybe he's not adapt for. And maybe he's not adept at this.
Drew
And even after that, he didn't think he needed anyone's help. Like, I got this. Don't need anyone. I don't need.
Ryan Lemond
Somebody asked about hiring a gm and he was like, ah, we don't need that. I got it. Well, so I wouldn't hire anybody that was like that. Now, before I get Back to phones, 859280, 2287, we got to talk about Kirby Smart. What a liar. You know what? I'll tell you what. What. What gets my. Gets in my crawl. Our coaches and even human beings that get up all the time in your face and preach to you about how you should act. And really, especially if they take on the mantle of God, Dabo's the worst at this. You know, name, image, and likeness of the Lord. And then they're out there. That's why, like, televangelist. And those people drive me crazy because they, you know, they tell you how you're supposed to live, and the next thing you know, they're going, I have sinned against you, my Lord. Like, I hate that. Kirby Smart's not exactly that, but there's definitely a holier than thou to Kirby Smart. Would you agree with that?
Drew
Certainly.
Matt Jones
Now, that timeout thing is not just one of my most favorite events that happened this season. It's one of my favorite events in sports in a long time.
Ryan Lemond
See, I hate it because he's a liar.
Matt Jones
That's what happens. That's what makes it special.
Ryan Lemond
Absolute liar.
Matt Jones
The video.
Ryan Lemond
And then he tried to take up for it at the end. You know, Shannon, he runs out there. We are not stupid. We see you calling timeout, and he's mouthing it. You are saying, timeout, timeout, timeout.
Matt Jones
And he tries to say.
Ryan Lemond
And they give him the timeout, and he goes, I didn't want to time out.
Matt Jones
I was clapping.
Shannon
Did he not think that there were cameras in the stadium that could see him? We could have instant replay of anybody in the stadium.
Ryan Lemond
When people's natural personality trait is to lie, they forget their line. I believe that. They start to believe the lie themselves. I think in his mind, he thought he wasn't calling timeout. He, in that millisecond, he went from timeout to clapping, had convinced himself that actually he was clapping.
Shannon
I understand people who lie and then convince themselves the lies. True, but that's usually over, like, time over maybe a year or two.
Ryan Lemond
This was.
Shannon
Seconds later. He knew exactly what he was doing. He got busted.
Drew
And he played such a victim. Like, oh, you can see him want. Oh, I was just clapping.
Ryan Lemond
I'm knocking my microphone. He is such a snot.
Shannon
Mario's filming.
Ryan Lemond
He's. He had a way to make Hugh Freeze look like the sympathetic character. Yeah, Hugh Freeze, who has quite a history himself, came off as the more sympathetic person.
Drew
Not. Big PR hit for Kirby here.
Matt Jones
John McDonough and Greg McElroy were fantastic.
Ryan Lemond
They were on.
Matt Jones
They were fantastic.
Shannon
Not get an unsportsmanlike conduct or delay of game or something.
Ryan Lemond
NCAA or. Excuse me, the SEC should find him. Should. You cannot blatantly lie like that.
Shannon
This is the new fake, an injury thing now, coaches to go, oh, no, no time.
Matt Jones
And then they did replay like, oh, no, there.
Ryan Lemond
And then he claimed after the game, he was like, well, I told him before the game that the Auburn guys clap. So fine, maybe you did. Maybe the Auburn guys were. But you were calling timeout. We saw you.
Shannon
The referee.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
We saw you do it. What a Liar.
Drew
Let's not let the referee get off the hook either. How do you fall for that? Just because Kirby's yelling at you.
Ryan Lemond
I agree. But I have more sympathy for the ref than Kirby because Kirby might have been like, well, maybe I thought, you know, his back was to him. He screwed up.
Drew
Yeah. You can't let him get away with that.
Ryan Lemond
Baby. Kirby knows.
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah.
Ryan Lemond
And he thought he's cheating. He thought we weren't seeing him.
Shannon
Yeah. Do you think we're all stupid, Kirby?
Ryan Lemond
So if I was Auburn fans, I'd be living. First of all, they get screwed at the call at the goal line. Absolutely got screwed completely that. How did they not give him a touchdown? He was across the plane.
Matt Jones
That puts Auburn up what, 17. Nothing, I think at that point.
Ryan Lemond
And then they end up losing the game.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
But even though it in the long run, it doesn't matter. That timeout thing, I'll never trust another word. Kirby Smart. Say if you can lie to me that blatantly, I love it to my face.
Shannon
He's not that smart. He got busted.
Drew
I remember hearing about it before I saw the clip. I'm like, I got to see what this is about, how close it was. Three seconds is all I need that it's so obvious. He's screaming, timeout, Timeout. That's why I couldn't believe he got away with it.
Ryan Lemond
I, I, I can't believe he, he, he got away with it either. Okay. So a couple of people asked me during the break, do you think give a percentage chance that Stoops is the coach January 1st? So let's just lay your, lay your cards on the table there. Ryan Lemon Scoop. You have, you've had 20, 25. Tough year for Scoop.
Drew
This is how you redeem yourself.
Ryan Lemond
This is your chance to redeem your Lamar Wilkerson, Deb Bockle.
Drew
And Yaxel.
Ryan Lemond
And Yaxel.
Matt Jones
I still feel really good about both of those. Really good.
Ryan Lemond
Here's your chance. What's your percentage?
Matt Jones
I'm going to go 10.
Ryan Lemond
10.
Matt Jones
Wow.
Ryan Lemond
You only think there's a 10% chance he's back.
Matt Jones
Yeah. I don't see how this team's going to win maybe one more game.
Ryan Lemond
10.
Matt Jones
10. It's too toxic. I think it's just become too toxic. And I think we got some really bad losses coming. I'm going to go 10 10.
Ryan Lemond
I thought you were going to be the most optimistic. All right.
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Drew.
Drew
10. I thought it before he said it. That was my answer. I just don't see how they're going to win. I just don't see where they're going to win. We can't bring him back if they don't win.
Ryan Lemond
Okay, so what about you, Shannon?
Shannon
I was going to go like 40% chance that he's back. I still think there's a chance they get to five wins and then you put the ball in Mitch Barnhart's court and say me. So I think that's the scenario that plays out.
Ryan Lemond
So I was going to say 25. I think the on the field thing, there's two scenarios, and I think the die will be cast Saturday. We're either going to play real well Saturday, maybe win, maybe lose, but be competitive, at which point I do not think the team quits or we're going to get blown out and then the whole thing's falling apart.
Matt Jones
That's kind of. We saw that last year.
Ryan Lemond
They got no. I mean, there's a chance if we lose 35, three Saturday, the whole. The wheels fall off and it's. And it becomes. It becomes just a combustible train wreck for the rest of the year and happens earlier in the year than it did last year.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
If we're competitive. I worry about Shannon's scenario. I do think there's a world where they beat Florida or beat Vandy and then beat Louisville. Then they're five and seven and you.
Matt Jones
Ended the year, the win over Louisville.
Ryan Lemond
And then what do you do?
Drew
I don't think you've watched this team play football.
Ryan Lemond
I understand, but, but, but let's just say that happened.
Drew
Yeah, I mean, you'd have to consider. I just, I don't think there's.
Ryan Lemond
There's a world. Poppy gets hurt before we play Vandy.
Shannon
Wait a minute now. What are you doing?
Ryan Lemond
I don't want him to get hurt, but I'm just saying that, you know, small things can. I mean, look at the Baltimore ra They're a Super bowl contender. Lamar gets hurt, they can't even score. You know, there are things that happen.
Drew
But I would say if one of your wins is you beat Vanny because Povi is hurt, that's not very comforting. Moving forward. It's like, well, we're just going to rely on all the quarterbacks getting hurt on the schedule.
Ryan Lemond
I'm not making the case that he should stay. I'm saying if it's 5 and 7. Yeah, it's a different world.
Shannon
Let's say you beat Florida, beat Tennessee Tech and beat Louisville. Or Vandy, which.
Ryan Lemond
Let's just say you beat Florida, Tennessee Tech and Louisville and you're five and seven and you've got a $37 million buyout due within 20 days. And Mark Stoop says, I ain't leaving. What do you do?
Matt Jones
That is the worst scenario, I think, for Barnhart because that is. That's the number that he's got to make a tough decision.
Ryan Lemond
Here's what you will have beaten at least one really good to get to five wins. I even say Drew, four wins, you got to let him go. But you beat. You get to five wins, you've beaten two good teams.
Matt Jones
Yeah. And you've beat Louisville in our scenario at the last game of the year. All that good feeling and beating Louisville.
Ryan Lemond
Or even you beat Florida and Vandy and you go into the Louisville game with a chance to go to a bowl game.
Drew
That was my preseason prediction, actually. You know, I think that we're skipping over that. Tennessee is about to beat them by 50 in one week. Tennessee offense first in the country.
Ryan Lemond
Let's just play the games, though. What if we beat Texas? I don't think we will, believe me. I'm not predicting it. I think we'll lose by 15 to 20. But what if we do? What if the magic of Keeneland Saturday night, Arch comes in, collapses, we get a pick six. It's the Ole Miss game last year.
Matt Jones
The fan base, I think, jumps back on board for a moment.
Shannon
It's just one game here.
Ryan Lemond
Or I don't think they do.
Drew
I don't think people should be this way. I think there's part of the fan base that would actually be mad that that happened. And I don't think that's being a true fan. You should never want your team to lose. But I think there are people that want this to be 3 and 9. So it's just clear and over with.
Ryan Lemond
I totally agree with you. I don't think I would ever be. Fans want it. I mean, I think you ask them, would you like to beat Texas? The answer is yes, horse. But I don't think this is why 5 and 7 is so bad.
Matt Jones
Yep.
Ryan Lemond
If you go 5 and 7 and we poll the fan base, there's still going to be nobody who wants him back.
Matt Jones
Yeah. If you're Mitch Barnhart, though, you got to make a somewhat a business decision at that point.
Ryan Lemond
But you also have to make a business decision in a year. You're trying to raise a lot of money. You're thinking about building an entertainment district.
Matt Jones
They had the buyout, that entertainment district disappears.
Ryan Lemond
So that's the thing. No, I mean, I think the entertainment trigger might be A bad idea anyway. But it's like, do you want to build your entertainment district or do you want to get rid of Mark Stoops?
Drew
I think even if you get to five, you're running out of an impressive fight. Like if one of them is Tennessee, maybe. But if you beat Texas and then Florida, I don't even think that's that impressive at this point because Florida, if.
Ryan Lemond
You beat Florida, beating a Florida team that.
Drew
No, if you beat Florida, their coach is getting fired on Monday.
Ryan Lemond
Well, that's true.
Drew
So it's. I still think it's gonna be hard to get impressive wins now. Tennessee would be very impressive. We thought Texas would be. I'm saying that's what. If you're gonna have five, you're gonna need something you can really point to.
Ryan Lemond
Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry.
Caller
Hey, Matt. In addition to Franklin, of course, it got blown off the blown out when Franklin got fired. Oregon State fired their coach over the weekend, too. And here's.
Ryan Lemond
Here's the problem for Mitch Barnhart. Powerful for football. I consider that.
Caller
I don't know what they're. I don't know what they're going to be next year, but the point is, is that the portal and all this stuff is speed up this process and everybody's talking about, you know, well, he, he might be Vandy and Louisville and get to keep his job. This decision is going to have to be made before those games. This is going to be made by the Tennessee Tech game because if they wait till the end of the season to do this. All these teams you're talking about, they're going to be announcing their new coaches this Sunday and Monday after the Louisville game. All those guys, you're going to want that they may be gone. So you're going to have to. They're going to have to know who they're going to hire. And now it's a hire if they're going to replace Stoops. And it's gotta be announced for that Monday after a little.
Ryan Lemond
It won't be the Monday, but I appreciate the call, but it'll be soon. You're right. I mean, one of the reasons all these teams have let go of guys is so they can go talk to people.
Matt Jones
Yes.
Ryan Lemond
So, you know, Jerry's right. I mean, but I don't. I don't think there's any scenario that firing during the season, do you?
Matt Jones
I don't. But Jerry makes a good argument. All these other coaches out there, they're going to be gobbled up by these.
Ryan Lemond
Other teams, but they won't Even if.
Drew
You don't fire him, you need to be having these conversations about you do.
Ryan Lemond
But, but bitch Barnhart's not going to do that.
Drew
That says a lot about him then.
Ryan Lemond
I mean, well, if you think you're.
Drew
Going to make a hire, you can't just wait.
Ryan Lemond
You can't go talk about him behind his back. You can't be hiring his, his replacement. If he's still your coach, you'd have to tell him, I'm letting you go. I mean, even me, I would say Mitch can't do that. You can't do that to a guy who's been here 15 years. You can't go be talking to his replacements while he's still sitting there.
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I don't know.
Drew
I think you have agents saying who's going to be.
Ryan Lemond
Well, that might be different, but Mitch can't do it.
Drew
Yeah, no, of course. I mean, Mitch can't make it.
Ryan Lemond
You got to do your homework. Will find out if we're doing that. I mean, coaches talk.
Matt Jones
Oh, yes, they do.
Ryan Lemond
We'll take a break. Be right back.
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Ryan Lemond
Welcome back Techie Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. I can't believe there's people taking up for Kirby Smart and be like oh, he was really just trying to stop. I mean I saw the timeout, Shannon. People got to stop.
Shannon
Like you know, it's Georgia fans, right? I mean is there anybody just doesn't have a dog in the fight? That's all right.
Ryan Lemond
Let me ask you a question, Shannon. You're a conspiracy guy.
Shannon
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
Did you see what happened with the crypto Friday? This feels like your kind of story.
Shannon
No, I haven't followed the crypto. What happened?
Ryan Lemond
All right, so crypto lost like $2 billion or maybe, I don't. I don't know. Massive amount of money in like 20 minutes. And unlike the regular financial market, the crypto market just disappears. We don't even know where it is. Right. Just gone. Crypto markets crash. When Trump announces he's going to put tariffs on China. A person. And again, with crypto, you don't have to register your accounts. A person gets online 30 minutes before he announces it and shorts all these crypto things, makes $192 million when Trump announces it and then immediately sells all his positions. Makes $192 million in 30 minutes. The assumption in the crypto world is somebody knew it was coming. Absolutely did it, and then sold it. Of course, this is the problem with crypto and this problem with our government getting involved in crypto. There are no laws. Right?
Matt Jones
Somebody.
Ryan Lemond
So, I mean, what he did is probably not even illegal. But do you think they should investigate Shannon? How the part because he made $192 million?
Shannon
Absolutely, they should investigate it. I mean, unless that guy has just immaculate timing and the best luck ever to be able to do that right before he. Trump made the announcement and then sell it.
Ryan Lemond
Right?
Shannon
Yeah. Yeah. Whoever this person was absolutely had some sort of insider tip that that announcement was coming and they knew what they were doing.
Ryan Lemond
What if you find out it was like a member of the administration?
Shannon
Prison, I think it should be.
Caller
I mean.
Ryan Lemond
Yes.
Shannon
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
I mean, we don't have any, like, we have no laws in this stuff. It's ridiculous. So I don't, like, people are going to lose, like, what you. In 15 years if we don't do something with AI and crypto, our society is going to collapse because we were arguing about stupid stuff. Yeah, that's my prediction. We're all sitting here arguing about who gets to swim against each other, and the entire system is going to crash because we don't have laws around the things that people are actually doing. Would you agree with that?
Drew
I bought crypto on Friday, so I'll just sit quiet here.
Ryan Lemond
Well, that would hurt you then.
Drew
No, I'm up pretty big anytime.
Ryan Lemond
These you didn't buy.
Drew
I bought the dip.
Ryan Lemond
Well, you bought the dip. Okay, but I'm saying to you. But that doesn't bother me. I don't care if the market dips and then you decide. I Know the one character you're talking about? Yes. It's not about you and what you're going to add. I'm saying, like.
Drew
Let me finish what I'm saying. No, this has happened three or four times. This happened with AI in China and Nvidia back in March. It dropped. It's up 200%.
Ryan Lemond
Same people are buying before the people who are doing.
Drew
That's what I'm saying. Our president says a message about China, the market crashes and it fixes itself in three days.
Ryan Lemond
Okay, same with. What about the $192 million guy? That guy did something, in my opinion, that should be illegal. I don't care. I agree with you. Stocks go up. Damn. Whatever. I don't care if people do that. That's.
Shannon
That's.
Ryan Lemond
That's capitalism. But people who know something's coming make money on it. Like that should be illegal.
Drew
No, I agree. And it's happening all the time. Yeah. No, I completely agree.
Ryan Lemond
All right.
Drew
Like, I'm a nerd out. Like Nvidia, it's AI. It went down to like $90 in.
Ryan Lemond
March because Trump was free traded. Scott. I'm fine with that. There are laws about that. With crypto, there are no laws. Nvidia. There's a set of laws. I'm good with that.
Drew
No, I'm saying they put out chaos, they sell, it crashes, and they get right back in. Whether it's political crypto, stocks.
Ryan Lemond
You're missing my point. Eric. Go ahead, Eric.
Caller
Yes, sir. I was gonna say that Big Blue Madness was awesome. In the line waiting to get the player signed. We were interviewed by lax18. I was gonna say Andrea Yellowic can shoot just about as well as Trent Noah can. Not as good. Trent Noah is way better, but he can shoot. That was my eye opener from him. And two things about your bar. Trinity and Lizzy need raises. They have fantastic service. And please, Matt, get rid of your paper straws.
Ryan Lemond
They're gonna go away. Have to use them all.
Matt Jones
It's a trial.
Ryan Lemond
I think. I think they'll be gone after the Texas game. I think. I think we're. We. We. We. Look, I think we'll be out of them after the Texas game. So. So for the Texas game, they'll be there. I don't want them any more than you do there, by the way. And I'll tell Trinity and Lizzie you like them, but go ahead.
Caller
The. You were not kidding about your beef. That stuff is phenomenal.
Ryan Lemond
Thank you very much.
Matt Jones
Anybody?
Ryan Lemond
Jay Linda stuff.
Caller
Yes, sir. Thank you.
Ryan Lemond
Appreciate it. You think Yellow Vich plays.
Drew
Yeah, definitely. I think there's a chance he's still a little behind now. We kind of got to figure out how he's going to get his feet under him because he's unique circumstances. But I think he could be starting in. In February would not surprise me. But that also could be the big Z thing where he looks like a deer and just can't defend. Switching over, coming to play SEC basketball.
Ryan Lemond
But he's skilled enough to steal a spot. Do you. No, I don't think he started having watched him play, but I do think he can get. I mean, I think he could play more than Z did, but he's not going to start. In my opinion, he was the guy.
Matt Jones
We had to pick our one kind of dark horse guy. I'm still on the.
Ryan Lemond
I just think there's a huge physical discrepancy from him and the other guys. Like if you just watch them when they're running up and down the court. But he can shoot. And I mean he's an awesome. I mean like he's what, our 11th or 12th. Like I mean what an amazing 11th or 12th guy to have.
Drew
That's what's so exciting about this team is let's say if he doesn't work out right away, okay, we have others. It's not like you're all in. And if he doesn't work, there's no backup. It's thrown off everything you're doing. I'm not gonna say he's extra, but you know, there are other options if he doesn't pan out.
Ryan Lemond
I think he is. He is extra. But like what an extra bonus piece. I mean to have that as a. As a bonus.
Matt Jones
He does the one thing you Pope wants these four guy to do. Just stand in the corner and bomb away.
Ryan Lemond
And with Garrison bringing his little kid.
Matt Jones
Out, that was cool. Although the kid was scared to death. Scared to death.
Ryan Lemond
The kid was like, put me down.
Matt Jones
Daddy, get me out of here.
Ryan Lemond
Still kind of a neat little moment though.
Matt Jones
Yes.
Ryan Lemond
But I bet are kids ears more sensitive?
Drew
Yeah, you got to wear the big.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Sensory overload kind of.
Ryan Lemond
But I mean, are they. Does Are they like dogs? The sound hits them different.
Drew
Their ears just aren't used to hearing that yet. So you don't want to just throw them into a rock.
Ryan Lemond
That's not crazy, right? They're like dogs one time.
Shannon
Don't you remember being a kid?
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I know that.
Ryan Lemond
I'm not. It's not being a critic. It's not critical. I'm just saying are they they're like dogs.
Shannon
The sounds are like dogs.
Ryan Lemond
Thank you. We'll be right back.
Shannon
They're the same thing.
Ryan Lemond
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Matt Jones
Call T.J. he'll make them pay.
Shannon
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Ryan Lemond
Welcome back, kenny Sports Radio. 859-280-2287 Text machine is 7772-774-5254. I love the text machine. When people met. When you say something about Nancy Pelosi, we've made fun of Nancy Pelosi's insider trading for years.
Drew
I follow her.
Ryan Lemond
Literally talks about he literally Pelosi tracker. What she does like, of course she ends up like she's the worst you're going to get. No. If you ever hear me taken up for Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, then you're listening to the wrong person.
Drew
Nancy Pelosi is the greatest stock trader in the history of the world.
Ryan Lemond
I mean, no kidding. The, the. But the cult like mentality of, oh, no, I said a bad word about your guy and you start yelling at me like, come on, my friend, we're all better than that. 859-280-2287 writes Matt, I like paper straws. Come on. No you don't. Nobody likes paper straws. The other day, no, you don't.
Drew
When I was taking the wrapper off of my paper straw, the straw broke with it. Get another one.
Ryan Lemond
I literally, I mean, I'm mad at my own restaurant for having it. I look in the mirror, Shannon, and cuss myself out for us having paper straws.
Shannon
The only person that likes paper straws is Mitch McConnell.
Matt Jones
He's a turtle.
Ryan Lemond
Really good job on his joke. That was a great joke. Why does, why does Ryan step on the joke?
Shannon
Explain it.
Ryan Lemond
He, he has to explain the joke.
Matt Jones
I love it.
Ryan Lemond
That was a really good joke, Shannon. You deserve to not have it stepped on. Cornbreadhip.com go to cornbread hemp.com promo code KSR. Full spectrum flower only hemp CBD gummies. The seltzers are huge. You can get them. Order them to your house. It's Cornbread Hemp.com promo code KSR. Try them. Help you relax, sleep and more. At Cornbread Hemp, one person writes, Matt, why would you dismiss getting James Franklin? He's won everywhere. He's gone. Why not here? Because we would have to pay the buyout, right?
Matt Jones
You'd end up paying two buyouts.
Ryan Lemond
You'd be paying two buyouts. But more importantly, James Franklin has one. If he did as well here as he did at Penn State. That would be good. But is James Franklin the coach for the future? My answer would be no. He was great for his time, but that time is now changing, and I don't think he would be the guy.
Drew
I don't really know what the future holds for James Franklin. I just think about when he ran up the score at Vandy and when he and Mark Stoops almost fought at the Citrus bowl, and I've just never liked him, and I don't think I could turn that off.
Ryan Lemond
I'm amazed how many people. It seems like everyone in college football hates it. They all root for his downfall. Yeah.
Matt Jones
Yeah. I don't know. I've never seen the.
Drew
The Penn State had the serious issue year or two ago, and I'll never forget that press conference. He stood there like a smarmy look, and he wouldn't answer, and he made like some media intern take the question. I just said a lot about his character because he put the one dude in the spot that doesn't even do press conferences. Sid who it was. And he just stood there with his arms crossed behind him. I just thought that was a jerk move on top of all his other jerk moves.
Ryan Lemond
A lot of times I have to drive on Sundays, usually from Louisville back to Lexington to do the podcast. And, you know, most podcasts don't update till Sunday night. So the only, like, new podcast that's out on Sunday is Todd McShay. So he does, like, a thing, and it's not particularly good. But what I've noticed about Todd McShay is he'll say anything. First of all, he called Paul Fine Bomb a dirty weasel the other day.
Drew
Was he? Is he.
Ryan Lemond
Yes, he did go look.
Drew
Is he not associated with any.
Ryan Lemond
No, he's with the Ringer. Okay. I didn't know that he got on there, Shannon. He was like, he's a cheat. He's a liar. He's a dirty wheeze. I was like, whoa, I like this.
Drew
I like it.
Shannon
I got to go back.
Ryan Lemond
Go look up McShay, and you can see his co host is going, hey. Hey.
Drew
Just picked up a new listener over here.
Ryan Lemond
He's just like, well, but he was going off on James Franklin yesterday before he got fired, and he just seemed to hate him. Feels like the people that cover the sport just cannot stand him.
Matt Jones
Yeah. I've never met him. He seems to not be respected at all by members of the media, by members. Other good coaches.
Ryan Lemond
They just seem to.
Matt Jones
Nobody seems to respect that guy like that guy.
Ryan Lemond
I don't know why it is. Tristan. Go ahead, Tristan.
Caller
Good morning, gentlemen.
Ryan Lemond
Good morning.
Caller
All right, so first off, shout out to Vaseline. Whatever the opposite of a shout out is, send it to Peter Thiel, but shout out to Vaseline. All right, and my question for you this morning, Matt. So you keep talking about video for your Cover Zero stuff. Where are you putting that out? Are you streaming it on Periscope or something?
Matt Jones
Like, what the problem?
Ryan Lemond
But it still looks bad. I mean, the problem we've had is it doesn't look good. I mean, I've said it makes Drew and I both look like we're high and crying. So sometimes the clips go out on Twitter, but they're all kind of embarrassing. We're doing the best we can. We're using cameras that were literally from the first BlackBerry, looking at them. Right?
Caller
Yeah. So I spend a lot of time on YouTube. You search cover zero, and all that comes up is defensive concepts.
Ryan Lemond
We might be. I appreciate. Tristan. Appreciate the call. We're kind of hiding it, to be honest with you. I don't want to start putting it up till it looks. It looks awful. Like, it really looks terrible, and it's nobody's fault. Well, it is.
Shannon
It's Billy's fault.
Ryan Lemond
It's I heart's fault to some extent, but they're trying to improve it. But we hope to have it looking better. But when I look at myself on those clips, I'm like, please tell me I don't look like that. It remember.
Drew
I guess not remember. So, like, the Snapchat filter you put on, people in their faces, crying.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, we're talking about do it.
Shannon
Do it.
Ryan Lemond
Like Grandpa Simpson.
Drew
We're debating Baker Mayfield versus Sam Darnold, but it looks like we're just crying our eyes out over it.
Ryan Lemond
Like, there's the clips. We just. We both look so bad, and yet somehow, Shannon, Billy has the good camera.
Shannon
See, he knows what he's doing. He's sabotaging you guys.
Ryan Lemond
He might be, because Billy does have the. The good camera. And when we're doing it from home and we're on our iPads, we both look good for some reason. The official camera, it just. It's just terrible. They just sent in new ones, so we're going to try it again.
Matt Jones
Nice.
Ryan Lemond
And this thing is lit for, like, prehistoric torture. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not lit for.
Matt Jones
Not designed to be a tv.
Ryan Lemond
It's not designed to be a tv.
Drew
Clear that radio. People design the visual effects.
Ryan Lemond
Anybody who's ever worked with lighting knows having it behind you and over your head is the worst thing you can do. And that's kind of what they do. Adam, Go ahead, Adam.
Caller
Hey, what's up, guys? I had two points. First, seeing John Wall at. At Madness just, like, made my heart happy after, you know, not only is he one of the most beloved players in UK history, but to hear his podcast from a couple months back where he was actually contemplating suicide, like, for him to have that moment. Yeah, like, let's like, get him on. On staff or something like that so he can feel the presence of BBN all the time.
Ryan Lemond
It seemed like he loved it. Mario. It did just. It seemed like he strikes me. And I think DeMarcus is like this as guys that are kind of at their happiest, Adam, when they're here. And I do enjoy that about him.
Caller
Absolutely. And the second point, the. The. The pre hype video or whatnot. You know, imagine if we had something like that for UK football preseason. Like, wouldn't people be more engaged like that? That was the best content that UK media, athletics media has put out over the last five years. And to see that, it's like, well, you know, that's awesome for basketball, man. It would have been nice to have something like that for football.
Ryan Lemond
Football's completely screwed up the preseason. I appreciate the call. They did everything they could have wrong. This is a. Again, part of the reason I'm not confident about the future is they did everything wrong this off season.
Matt Jones
Why didn't they have a fan fest event like the basketball team? Just.
Ryan Lemond
Why didn't they just tell us who our players were?
Matt Jones
Why didn't they have a fan day? Why didn't they have a women's clinic?
Drew
There was a fan day. It wasn't nearly like fan fest basketball, but, I mean, they had their own practice.
Ryan Lemond
They did. They had for. It was the day after our meeting.
Drew
Now, there wasn't a lot of the extra stuff you'd want out there, but it did exist.
Ryan Lemond
I'm with you. I mean, basketball doesn't even need to do it in some ways, and they did it anyway. Right.
Drew
Think about football right now, where we're very obviously at a crossroads and we talk about some people want the team to lose. It's easier to want the team to lose or be disappointed when you don't even really know the people under the helmet. There's no connection of wanting to just root for them as people, really.
Ryan Lemond
Drew's exactly right. He's exactly right. It is harder it's harder to be critical or hateful to people if you know them. It's my whole point of how we should watch. We should all learn and talk to people that are different. You're not going to be as mean to people if you know them and you like them. We don't know these players. And so it's easy for people to go, oh, he stinks. They don't. They don't know the first thing about him.
Matt Jones
Seth McGowan's got a great story. We knew nothing of it or knew nothing of him until media day.
Ryan Lemond
Seth McGowan's really good.
Matt Jones
He is really good.
Ryan Lemond
Do you think when he walks through Lexington, anyone knows who he is?
Matt Jones
No. And he's probably our mvp. Well, he is our mvp.
Ryan Lemond
I mean, when he walks. If he walks to the bars, or let's say he showed up at Big Blue Madness. No. You think people would know who he is?
Drew
Very unlikely.
Matt Jones
And he's our. He's our most valuable player. He's our.
Ryan Lemond
I don't think.
Matt Jones
Nope. I don't either.
Drew
Well, how about at the last game where we have a receiver come off the bench and he looks like a NFL Pro Bowler, and everyone in the fan base is like, never heard of this person.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, Chris, go ahead.
Caller
Hey, Matt. I just want to say before I start, I would shake Mark Stoop's hand. Like, if he were to be let go tomorrow, I would shake his hand and thank him.
Ryan Lemond
But I just want to ask if that happens, we should. Because he's done great stuff here. But go ahead.
Caller
I just want to know, like, after 12 years, I mean, he's had six different offensive coordinators. We're still seeing the same end of game or end of half. Management clock. Management issues. Like, why, if we go 6 and 6, would y' all like to see him get another shot? I just have to hear y'.
Ryan Lemond
All. It's not that I would like to. It's just. I don't think you really have another choice. I appreciate the call. Because of the $37 million buyout, and.
Matt Jones
We have to look at the mirror. We still are Kentucky football. And six wins used to be the benchmark. We used to be happy and have parades. We get six wins and go to a bowl game. We're not too far removed from those days.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, I don't think we're going to have to worry about that scenario. But, yeah, I don't think you could fire him if you want six.
Matt Jones
I don't think so either. Seven's the tough one.
Ryan Lemond
You mean five.
Matt Jones
Five, five, five and seven.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, seven would be pretty easy actually for there. You know, there's a lot of myths about UK Federal Credit Union. Can I ask UK Federal Credit Union for a favor?
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
Can we change my commercial that runs during the games?
Matt Jones
They run it every second of every commercial break. Well, just plain wrong, Billy.
Ryan Lemond
They had this ad, they asked me to put on a country accent and they run it non stop. Non stop. Federal credit for all y'.
Caller
All.
Ryan Lemond
I don't talk like that.
Shannon
No, you're like Brian Kelly when he got the job at was LSU talking.
Ryan Lemond
Like he was country. I'll do it. I'll do this ad like that. My family is. There's mess about UK Federal Credit Union.
Matt Jones
Billy.
Ryan Lemond
No, seriously, go to UK Federal Credit Union. It's not hard to join there. The myths are busted. All you got to do is go. Kentuckians get great rates and real benefits. There's seven local branches are online in under three minutes. Whether you wear blue or white or not, it's UK Federal Credit Union. We're not just for some Shannon. We're for all y'.
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Drew
That's right.
Ryan Lemond
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Ryan Lemond
Welcome back Techie Sports Radio. Shannon, some breaking news.
Shannon
Oh, hang on. I'm not even ready.
Ryan Lemond
You got this.
Shannon
Hang on.
Ryan Lemond
I'm. I'm waiting.
Shannon
You're gonna sit here all day till I do it.
Drew
More important.
Ryan Lemond
There you go. The breaking news was waiting. The SEC has released its preseason honors OTEGA away picked preseason SEC player of the year. Wow. First team all sec. Jalen Lowe predicted third team all SEC and Kentucky predicted to be second in the conference behind Florida. You like that?
Matt Jones
You know Ortega a guy we hardly talk. Of course he's hurt right now. We don't hardly even talk about him.
Ryan Lemond
No we don't. It's crazy. We have preseason SEC player of the year. He never gets.
Matt Jones
We don't even talk about him. You know how many. When's the last time we actually talked about Otega helping this team, what he can do to this team on this show.
Drew
Just a sure thing, whatever that stat was last year about his double digit games. You just, you know he's going to show up.
Ryan Lemond
It is amazing though that like we don't even know.
Matt Jones
We talk a lot about low. We talk about Trent Noah today we talked about even yellow bitch haven't mentioned Otega and he is SEC preseason player of the year.
Ryan Lemond
Well, congrats to him. I mean how about that? That's a kid who. I mean when he came here you would have never imagined that something that would happen A lot of people, me.
Drew
Included when I'm sure where he'd fit in. And we kind of debated that brea away spot who's going to go there. Boy did we weren't sure what was ahead there with him. He was awesome last year and expected again.
Ryan Lemond
Totally agree. 859-280-2287 one person writes. Matt, why do you keep saying that we have to pay Franklin's buyout? Doesn't Penn State? Well, no, actually if you, if you negotiate the contracts well you can end up with what Penn State has which is if Franklin goes somewhere else, the money's offset. So let me explain how this should work. Here's what Franklin should do, but he got fired, so I don't. So because he got fired he's gonna end up getting it. But if he goes and works somewhere else, the money gets offset. So if he comes to, you know, Vandy again and he gets paid 6 million a year, then Penn State will only owe him the difference between what he would have made at Penn State and what he makes at Vandy. So here's what coaches do. Here's what Mark Stoops would do if it wasn't due in 20 days. He would say, okay, you owe me $37 million. I want to go coach here for $6 million a year. But I want to make all $6 million. I don't want to go work there for free. How about you just give me 15 or 20, I'll go away and then I can make my full salary there and get this $20 million. UK has an incentive to do it, right?
Matt Jones
Sure they do.
Ryan Lemond
However, we can't do that because it's all due up front. So he can get his money, wait a year, and then go get full money. So the thing that usually offsets your price of the buyout we don't even get.
Drew
That's fun. It's fun for us.
Matt Jones
That's why people keep saying, why didn't Mark Snoop fall on the sword and walk away for what he's done in the program? Would you do that?
Ryan Lemond
That's what I thought Cal would do is Cal would say, buy me out for less and then I'll go coach somewhere else. City just left. So Cal actually left money on the table. Cal did us the best favor.
Matt Jones
He did us a big favor.
Ryan Lemond
I mean, like, Cal could have made that a lot worse, and he didn't.
Drew
So, yeah, shout out to that Vegas hotel room at the Final Four. That's kind of what. What got him in the contract.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, let's go. But here's my point. If Stoops goes and gets money, go get. Goes and gets another job, it doesn't change the amount we have to pay, right? Unless he has a job and then he negotiates it so he can get paid twice, which is the best possible scenario for Kentucky. He finds another job. He wants to get that full salary, so he takes less than the 37 million from Kentucky. That's what you have to hope for if you want him gone.
Matt Jones
But if he keep him till the end of the season and all these other schools are hiring coaches so quickly.
Ryan Lemond
It'S a great point. Let's go to Brad. Brad.
Caller
Hey, guys, if we can find $37 million to buy out Stoops, wouldn't it be smarter to find seven or eighteen and a half million for the next. Each of the next two years to go build the roster? Which is the whole reason we're losing. We're not losing because he's a bad coach. And you can say, oh, he didn't recruit well. He doesn't have the money to recruit all the guys that we're competing against.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, but I don't. Here's the thing. I don't.
Caller
I don't buy that money.
Ryan Lemond
I don't buy that. I think you are correct if you're talking about beating Georgia. But we have spent more on our roster than Vandy has. We have spent more than Missouri has, and we've probably spent a pretty equivalent amount to, say, South Carolina maybe. You know, I don't know what all the Mississippi State, Indiana. So, yeah, I mean, if we were only losing to the great teams, then I'd be totally with you, but we're losing to everybody.
Caller
Did we just not spend money on a quarterback for a reason? Whereas all of those teams.
Ryan Lemond
We did spend money on a quarterback. We. We spent money on Calzada. It just didn't work. But he's getting pretty good money.
Caller
That was a.
Ryan Lemond
We spent a lot of money on the offensive line.
Drew
That's where all the money we went.
Ryan Lemond
We spent. I appreciate the call. We spent. Our offensive line cost us a lot of money. That whole line was paid at least a million bucks each. So you want to know where our money went and went to the offensive line?
Drew
It's all there. Calzada was expensive, but probably a little cheaper than most people expect because they spent so much on the guys to protect him. Hoping that will kind of help fix some of the problems.
Ryan Lemond
So far, it's been okay. Yeah, but it's not been. It's not been the strength. But, yes, we. Last year, money was an issue. I don't think that's the issue this year, do you?
Matt Jones
I just don't know. Do you think they just spin it on the wrong people the wrong way?
Ryan Lemond
I think when you don't have the base, the transfer portal needs to add to your base. Our base was bad, so we're trying to add. Whereas in years past, I think our base was pretty good.
Drew
And the money thing isn't the reason. It's almost been two calendar years since we've scored three touchdowns in a game.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. And the money is not a money thing. The money does not cause you to screw up the clock at the end of the first half every single.
Matt Jones
Correct. Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
That's not a money situation. Andrew, I got, like, 30 seconds. Go ahead.
Drew
All right.
Caller
I think it's inevitable with the new scheduling that they're going to add. You know, the ticket prices are going to go up because we've added the conference game. And good luck. Even if he wins four or five games trying to get people to spend more money to go watch this again.
Ryan Lemond
Totally agree. Appreciate the call. I mean, most schools are going to raise their ticket prices due to revenue sharing. Is this a good time for Kentucky to raise their ticket?
Matt Jones
No.
Ryan Lemond
So it's just a bad situation. All right, we'll be back at studio tomorrow. My trivia is Wednesday sksr.
Date: October 13, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones, Ryan Lemond, Drew Franklin, Shannon the Dude
This second hour of Kentucky Sports Radio dives into the latest UK football and basketball developments, with passionate debates about coaching culture, the Mark Stoops job situation, shifting college sports dynamics (NIL, transfer portal), and some lighter moments covering UK fandom. The hosts also weigh in on national sports stories (Kirby Smart controversy), discuss crypto market drama, and take multiple listener calls on Big Blue Madness, football program marketing, and potential coaching changes. The tone is lively, humorous, and opinionated throughout.
"If you're complaining about a system that is not changing, gotta adapt. Then I'm not hiring [you]."
– Ryan Lemond, on hiring coaches in the new era ([01:54])
"That's one thing that made Calipari so successful. He was always a little ahead of the curve. But now he's not."
– Matt & Ryan ([03:00])
"When people's natural personality trait is to lie, they forget their line. I believe that. They start to believe the lie themselves.”
– Ryan, on Kirby Smart ([05:25])
“Do you think we're all stupid, Kirby?”
– Shannon ([07:31])
"I don't see how this team's going to win maybe one more game... It's too toxic."
– Matt, on Stoops’ future ([08:59])
"In 15 years if we don't do something with AI and crypto, our society is going to collapse because we were arguing about stupid stuff."
– Ryan ([19:23])
"It's easier to want the team to lose or be disappointed when you don't even know the people under the helmet."
– Drew ([33:05])
"Nobody likes paper straws."
– Multiple, recurring theme for comic relief ([25:43])
"Congratulations to [Otega Away], that's a kid who...when he came here, you would have never imagined that something that would happen."
– Matt, on Otega Away winning preseason SEC POY ([38:58])
This summary delivers a comprehensive, timestamped guide to the episode for listeners and non-listeners alike, capturing the original tone, debate, and unique KSR banter.