2025-10-14- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

KSR Podcast Summary (Hour 2)

Episode: 2025-10-14- KSR – Hour 2
Date: October 14, 2025
Host: Matt Jones
Co-hosts: Drew Franklin, Shannon Ragland
Network: iHeartPodcasts & Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM)

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Overview

This hour of Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) features a classic blend of sports analysis, quirky pop culture discussions, and humorous banter. Matt Jones and the KSR crew discuss unusual music trends, SEC football, Kentucky basketball lineups, memorable UK athletics history, and the oddities of “Ohio Valley Pizza.” Callers contribute with questions and local flavor, while the crew maintains their signature light, conversational tone throughout.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Pop Culture: Role Model’s ‘Sally’ and SNL Intrigue

• Matt brings up learning about the singer “Role Model” following his Saturday Night Live appearance (01:05) and his trending concert gimmick: bringing a surprise “Sally” on stage in each city, sometimes a celebrity.
• The conversation shifts to the SNL appearance where the guest Sally wore a "Kansas City" shirt, speculated as subtle shade at Taylor Swift, given her connection with Travis Kelce and past feuds with Charli XCX (referred to humorously as "Charlie 14").
• The hosts riff on the difference between feuds in female vs. male artists:
  • "Do men singers have these kinds of beefs? Usually they just threaten to kill each other." – Matt Jones (04:18)

Notable Quotes:

• “I didn't even know there was a Role Model, didn't know there was a Sally, and didn't know there was a thing that you wanted to be a Sally.” – Matt Jones (02:40)

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2. Sports News: Cape Verde Makes the World Cup

• Matt highlights Cape Verde’s historic qualification for the World Cup, making it the smallest country ever to do so (06:17). The crew marvels at the nation’s population (500,000) and 10-island geography, likening it to Lexington fielding a World Cup team (06:57).
• Drew and Matt pledge their new fandom for Cape Verde, comparing their underdog narrative to classic sports Cinderella stories.

Notable Quotes:

• “It’d be like Lexington making the World Cup.” – Drew Franklin (06:54)
• "Can you imagine if Lexington had a World Cup team?" – Matt Jones (06:57)

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3. Kentucky Football: Mark Stoops’ Job Security & Texas Game

• A caller (“Terry”) points out Mark Stoops’ 6-26 record in the last 32 SEC games and suggests maybe it’s time for Stoops to move on (07:34).
• Matt and Drew discuss the hypothetical of Kentucky beating Texas and how quickly public opinion could shift (09:13). They debate likely attendance and the star power Arch Manning brings to Lexington (10:02).
• The segment underscores fans’ mixed feelings—both frustration with the recent record and anticipation for marquee games.

Memorable Moment:

• “For one week, we would be the king of the media: beat Texas!” – Drew Franklin (09:55)

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4. Kentucky Basketball: Early Lineup Speculation & Schedule Strength

• Callers ask about sneaker trends (Sabrina 2 basketball shoes seen on Colin Chandler) and shooting prowess (Trent Noah’s smooth stroke).
  • “He brings out people so that they’ll go, 'Who’s Sally?' … It’s kind of a good gimmick.” – Matt Jones (05:04)
• Kentucky being ranked #9 in the AP poll and fourth in KenPom is debated. Matt and Drew discuss the challenge of a schedule loaded with top-25 opponents: 12 of Kentucky’s 31 games are against ranked teams (13:37).
• The hosts and callers analyze potential starting lineups, new transfers, early surprises, and the importance of having shooters at the “4” spot.

Key Quotes:

• "We're Kentucky. We should play the best of the best." – Drew Franklin (14:26)
• “Brought tears to your eyes … a thing of beauty. A guy from Harlan County knocking down threes like it was a layup.” – Drew Franklin on Trent Noah (11:48)

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5. Kentucky vs. Purdue: Exhibition Anticipation

• The crew previews the upcoming exhibition basketball game versus #1 Purdue (17:19), speculating whether coaches Pope and Painter will treat the matchup as a legitimate contest or more of a scrimmage.
• They debate possible future home-and-home arrangements and expectations for star players’ minutes.

Quote:

• “I think Pope’s going to try to find the right combinations, the right players, and use this as a glorified scrimmage... he’s still going to want to win.” – Drew Franklin (17:47)

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6. Kentucky Athletics History: Greg Page, Integration, & Middlesboro Game

• Matt shares a story from the Lexington Herald-Leader about Greg Page, a Middlesboro athlete who helped integrate UK football but tragically died before playing a game (27:21).
• The story leads to memories of an obscure 1968 UK-Tennessee benefit freshman basketball game at Middlesboro High School, which helped fund a scholarship for Bell County students—a legacy still active today.

Quotes & Reaction:

• “They need to know who Greg Page was, what he meant to this university..." – Drew Franklin (28:12)
• “I had no idea... kudos to Tennessee.” – Matt Jones (28:26)

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7. Food Oddities: The Horror of Ohio Valley Pizza

• Matt recounts a disastrous encounter with Ohio Valley Pizza: a regional style where cold toppings are added after baking. The crew reacts with comedic disgust, marveling that neither they nor their Kentucky audience have ever encountered it (21:38).

Notable Quotes:

• "It's the worst thing I've ever tasted in my entire life." – Matt Jones (22:18)
• “Imagine a hot pizza with cold toppings on top.” – Matt Jones (23:17)
• "It's like the Papa Murphy's take-n-bakes, you just don't bake them." – Drew Franklin (23:28)

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8. Listener Calls & Banter Highlights

Noteworthy Segments

• Shoe Talk: Colin Chandler’s Sabrina 2 shoes discussed (16:57).
• Basketball Warmups Lore: Callers recall best UK warmup shooters; Drew warns of summer hype cycles (12:36).
• Steve Schmitt Mystery: Intrigue over a former UK freshman star who allegedly left to become a pro bowler, sparking speculation and jokes about “Rupp running off talent” (38:23, 43:30).

Quote:

• "Who chooses bowling? He drops 34 against the Vols in a packed Middlesboro High School gymnasium..." – Matt Jones (44:32)

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Notable Quotes, Moments, and Timestamps

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Topic | |-----------|---------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:40 | Matt Jones | "I didn't even know there was a role model, didn't know there was a Sally, didn't know there was a thing…" | | 06:54 | Drew Franklin | "It'd be like Lexington making the World Cup." | | 09:55 | Matt Jones | "For one week, we would be the king of the media: beat Texas!" | | 11:48 | Drew Franklin | "A thing of beauty. A guy from Harlan county knocking down threes like it was a layup—all in the contest."| | 14:26 | Drew Franklin | "We're Kentucky. We should play the best of the best." | | 22:18 | Matt Jones | "It was the worst thing I've ever tasted in my entire life." (On Ohio Valley Pizza) | | 28:12 | Drew Franklin | "They need to know who Greg Page was..." | | 38:23 | Matt Jones | "34 points, 6'11. Beaten Tennessee, Shannon. Where’d this guy go? We had some lean years there..." | | 44:32 | Matt Jones | "Who chooses bowling? He drops 34 against the Vols in a packed Middlesboro High School gymnasium..." |

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Tone and Style

• Conversational & Knowledgeable: The crew remains breezy yet informed, moving fluidly between local sports, music gossip, and absurd food takes.
• Self-Deprecating Humor: Frequent self-jokes, good-natured ribbing, and plotting mock rivalries with callers and each other.
• Kentucky-Proud Nostalgia: Plenty of heartwarming callbacks to UK history and local legends, with calls for honoring past athletes and stories.

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Conclusion

Hour Two of the October 14, 2025 KSR show is a quintessentially energetic, Kentucky-centric discussion. Listeners are treated to everything from SNL musical feuds to deep cuts from University of Kentucky athletic history and the enduring question of why on earth someone would eat Ohio Valley Pizza. Whether it’s debating the future of the UK football program, previewing an exhibition clash with Purdue, or celebrating local legends, the KSR crew keeps the conversation rolling with wit and heart.

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For a lively blend of Kentucky sports, musical pop-culture, and hometown idiosyncrasies—this episode delivers the full KSR experience.

Transcript

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[Shannon Ragland]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. Our number two Kenny Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-774-5254. Gonna take your calls. Talk a little basketball here in just a second. Let me go over a couple things. First of all, Shannon, I learned something this weekend I didn't know. I wanted to know if you know, do you know who the singer role model is?

[Shannon Ragland]

No, never heard of him.

[Matt Jones]

You ever heard of him? Never heard roll. Did you ever heard of him?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know if it's a man or a woman.

[Matt Jones]

It's a man. I didn't know who it was either. Here's the reason I bring this up. He was the lead singer or not Lead singer. He was the guest singer on Saturday night live this weekend. You know, the musical guest.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And he has a song, it's called sally gets your face or something. It's like something Sally.

[Drew Franklin]

All right.

[Matt Jones]

Like, sally, what are you up to? Sally, see what, see what the name is. It's like, it's like, hey, Sally, how are you? And I guess every concert apparently he brings out a Sally.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. And so somebody will come out and they'll be his Sally.

[Shannon Ragland]

Is it Sally when the wine runs.

[Matt Jones]

Out Sally when the wine runs out, yeah. So somebody comes out and they're a Sally.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

And like apparently it's a big thing on TikTok. Who's his Sally going to be in every city? So like, he would come to Lexington and maybe Steve Zahn would be a Sally. I'm not kidding. It's. Sometimes it's a man, sometimes it's a woman. But they'll bring somebody out and they'll be sad. And there have been, like, all these famous people be the Sally.

[Drew Franklin]

The Sally.

[Matt Jones]

So I didn't even know there was a role model, didn't know there was a Sally, and didn't know there was a thing that you wanted to be a Sally. All right, so it goes on Saturday Night Live. Apparently in that world, everybody's like, okay, who's gonna be the Sally?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You know, and apparently it was that woman, Charlie X, I V, C4. Whatever. Right. That woman with the. With the number with the super bowl letters. I still don't know how you say her name. Charlie 14. All right. Okay. She's on there now. Did you know that she and Taylor Swift feuded?

[Drew Franklin]

Of course not.

[Matt Jones]

They both were dating somebody in the same band long time ago, and now they've made songs about how each other was mean to each other.

[Shannon Ragland]

Yeah, I think she was in the new Taylor Swift album. There was a.

[Drew Franklin]

She's.

[Matt Jones]

Apparently the Taylor Swift has something in the album that's like, you were mean to me. And she was like, no, you were mean to me.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So now here's. This is all leading to this.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

While she's Sally.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

On Saturday Night Live, she wears a shirt that says Kansas City on it. And the premise of the Sally is you drink too much Sally, don't take your guns to town or whatever. Wind it up. That one. So now there's the question of what she talking about Taylor Swift with the Travis Kelsey Kansas City shirt. I like this level of intrigue because I want there to be pettiness that leads you to wear the shirt of the city, of the place where your boyfriend is.

[Drew Franklin]

Is from in a. In a huge, huge stage.

[Matt Jones]

Huge stage.

[Drew Franklin]

I knew about the boyfriend beef. His name's Matt.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

So that I'm. I'm somewhat hip on Charlie X Kicks and Taylor Swift Feud. I didn't know about this thing on Saturday.

[Matt Jones]

Do you. Are there. Are there other. Do men. Singers have these kind of beefs? Usually they just threaten to kill each other.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Like, they don't. They don't sit here and do this.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, young Jeezy and Gucci man, Gucci mane. When they were beefing, they. I don't remember Petty T shirts and boyfriend drama. Like, I just like it. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And I now know what a Sally is. And apparently that guy. I think he's coming to Lexington or Louisville here soon.

[Drew Franklin]

The role model guy.

[Matt Jones]

So we got to figure out who's going to be. Who's going to be. Sally, how about you? Andy Beshear.

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't recognize his name, but I've seen the Sally trend. He gets like a list celebrity.

[Matt Jones]

He does. And he can't sing. He can't. I don't. On Saturday Night Live. He sounded awful. I don't say that to be mean to him. He just.

[Drew Franklin]

He brings out people to.

[Matt Jones]

That's why he just brings out people so that they'll go. Who. It's a kind of a good gimmick. So Lexington, Sally, who's it going to be?

[Drew Franklin]

Ashley Judd.

[Matt Jones]

I think it's Andy Beshear.

[Drew Franklin]

Andy is kind of everywhere right now.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Apparently you have to wear cowboy boots, so I don't know, like knee highs. I don't know how he would look at that. Did you hear, Ryan, about Cape Verde?

[Drew Franklin]

I have not heard about Cape Verde.

[Matt Jones]

Do you know what Cape Verde is?

[Drew Franklin]

Verde is green.

The green cape.

[Matt Jones]

So it's a. Cape. Is a green Cape Verde is green. Cape Verde is a country.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

In Africa.

[Drew Franklin]

All right.

[Matt Jones]

They became the smallest country in history yesterday to make the World Cup.

[Drew Franklin]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Would you like to know how big it is?

[Drew Franklin]

I would like to know this.

[Matt Jones]

311 miles.

[Drew Franklin]

That's it.

[Matt Jones]

It is only has.

[Drew Franklin]

Just like I was looking at waiting for more.

[Matt Jones]

It only has as its population right now, 500,000 people. Okay. Smaller, like just to give an example, 1/10 this population of Kentucky.

[Drew Franklin]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

They made it. They are. They are. Can they consist of 10 volcanic islands. Cape Verde. And they are now in the World Cup. Will be the smallest country to have ever made it. Are you 4K and they're coming to America. Are you for Cape Verde?

[Drew Franklin]

I am for him.

[Matt Jones]

And I've only been a country since 1975.

[Drew Franklin]

So how do they do it? Did they pull off a big upset or one games? I mean, they have a big upset.

[Matt Jones]

Well, they have qualified for the World cup and they qualified. Now the World cup is expanding. It's bigger this year than it has been in years past. But still, it's. It's still quite an accomplishment.

[Drew Franklin]

Cape Verde.

[Matt Jones]

Cape Verde. So will you be for Cape Verde?

[Drew Franklin]

I am. That's my new team.

[Matt Jones]

You like Cape Verde?

[Drew Franklin]

I do. I saw this. It'd be like Lexington making the World Cup.

[Matt Jones]

No, I mean this is the. This is a place the size of Lexington. Can you imagine if Lexington had a World cup team?

[Drew Franklin]

It could be playing Brazil in the World Cup.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. They have competed at every Summer Olympics. They've never won a medal, they've never been to a World cup. They've never been to any international championship. But they will be in America in 2020.

[Drew Franklin]

They did had good recruiting year, it sounds like.

[Matt Jones]

Well, so there you go. Just a little bit of information.

[Drew Franklin]

They're going to be the World cup, darling. Wherever they are, they're going to have the crowd.

[Matt Jones]

Sure they should. Let's go to Terry. Go ahead, Terry.

[Caller]

Stoops. Take and then a question about or comment on Texas, Tennessee. So 6 and 26, please fact check me on that. 6 and 26 is Stoop's record in his last 32 SEC games. No coach in America.

[Matt Jones]

Correct. But that's probably. That sounds correct. Yeah, that's. That's probably correct, yes.

[Caller]

No coach in this universe survives that. I mean, I like Mark. He's done, he's done a good job. And to your point or last hour, he just stayed too long. He, when he had that Texas A and M gig or thought he did, that's probably when he should have left.

[Matt Jones]

That would have been the moment that would. It was. It's. In hindsight it's kind of like the, you know, the Cal UCLA moment. It's probably good for everybody. Had the change occurred then. Probably the same thing here too because.

[Caller]

As you said also he can't look in the mirror at this point and think, I'm doing a good job, I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. So hopefully over time and the rest of the season, I know barring some kind of scandal, Barnhart's not going to fire him in the middle of season. I don't want him to, but I think he has to sit down and say, hey, for the betterment of everybody. I need to move on now saying. Having said that, also, I don't have these stats in front of me, but night games on the SC at the SEC on the road are very hard to win. The home team has an advantage for various reasons. So we got two games back to back. I think we can win one of them. I think we can win one the next.

[Matt Jones]

It would be the most Stoops thing and I appreciate it, Terry, to win one of these. Yep, it would be, it would be a very Stoops thing. Like, I mean, again, I just, I keep saying, what if he won Saturday? I mean, if he won Saturday, the whole. I just want you to think about what would happen if he won Saturday. The whole national Media would be praising him because you would end Texas. Chance at the playoffs ended, you'd be beating Arch. Everybody would go see Kentucky fans want to fire that guy. Look how stupid they are. He go. And then we might still finish 4 and 8, which I think you still have to make the move.

[Drew Franklin]

But for one week, we would be the king of the media beat Texas.

[Matt Jones]

You could totally. I don't think it will, but you could see that happening. Do you think the place will be full Saturday?

[Drew Franklin]

Close to it. I don't know what color they'll be wearing. Could be a lot of cowboy hats and burn orange in there, but I think it'll be a good crowd. I just, me personally, I know so many people that have planned this since February. This is like their weekend. I'm going to Lexing Keeneland Texas game.

[Matt Jones]

And there's the star power of Arch Manning. Even though he's been a little disappointed, disappointing, you know, there's a sense of that's Arch Manning. You might one day want to have said. Just like you. When we saw Tebow here and we saw Cam Newton here and we saw Lamar Jackson here, you could say I saw that guy play in the stadium Texas logo. I mean, when's that exactly?

[Drew Franklin]

Drew's right. I mean, people have planned this weekend all year. Now, the fact that there's the blue white game and then the football game, I think people plan on coming in, doing them. Both of them going to Keeneland during the day. I think it'll end up being a good crowd because of that. Everything else going on parents weekend. Parents weekend.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. 859-280-2287. Couple open lines. Matt, go ahead, Matt.

[Caller]

Hey, got a question for you. Two questions, actually. Number one, Colin Chandler shoes that he was wearing in the dunk contest. I know they're Nikes, but I need a sneaker head to help me figure out what. What kind of Nikes they are. I guess they're. They're awesome.

[Matt Jones]

I'm gonna have to look because I didn't see it, but I'll look it up right now, but go ahead.

[Drew Franklin]

All right.

[Caller]

Question number two. Is Trent Noah shot? Have you seen anything that beautiful in your entire life?

[Matt Jones]

Well, our guy over here, Ryan said it was. I still can't believe with your hyperbole. I appreciate the call that you thought that you think that is the best has a chance to be the best jumper ever in UK history. You really, you believe that?

[Drew Franklin]

I just watched him in that three point contest the other night and it brought tears to my eyes. It Was a thing of beauty. A guy from Harlan county knocking down threes like it was a layup all in the contest.

[Matt Jones]

Brought tears to your tears to my eyes. I mean he's got it. He's got a pure jumper and when you watch him in warmups it reminds me of like who are the great Kentucky warmups? Antonio reeves could make 100 in a row without missing Kellen Grady could make like 100 in a row without missing Travis Ford back in the day.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Derek Miller back in the day like but that's.

[Matt Jones]

He kind of looks a little bit like that.

[Drew Franklin]

The shot looks good. I'm, I'm getting worried about the summer talk. Remember last year all the buzz was Travis Perry has not missed all summer and then he shot 30% in the season. So I'm worried we're going to get a little too carried away and set this bar that's impossible to reach because it is. Everyone is not just Ryan. Everyone is just raving about Trent Noah as a three point shooter to the point. It's. I'm worried it's going to be one of those summer tales that never pans out.

[Matt Jones]

Can't get a good view of his shoes here to tell you what kind they are because everything's a video and it goes by too quick. So if I see one I'll, I will get Mario to weigh it. He'll. He'll know the difference. 859-280-2287 Kentucky ninth in the AP poll. That sound right poetic.

[Drew Franklin]

Number nine. I liked your head of Louisville. We'll ignore the BYU is number eight. Doesn't really matter there. Florida's only SEC team ahead of you there. It's about where I would have put them. Yeah.

You got what I looked who was ahead of him? Well you can't make an argument really at this point right now. I just glad that Florida was the only SEC team was ahead of them.

[Matt Jones]

Ken Palm. We were fourth just behind Purdue, Houston and Florida.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I love that people trust Ken Palm. It's getting a little harder with these transfers, these brand new teams.

[Matt Jones]

It's hard for me to know what he bases his data on when you have whole new teams. But nevertheless, yeah, still good to be for love.

[Drew Franklin]

Seeing a lot of gamblers trust Ken Palm more than anything. So as much as we like seeing it on the AP and you know all these votes coming in. Ken Palms, if we trust the numbers, I mean he's, he's the one that's really reliable.

[Matt Jones]

Of our 31 games this season, season 12 are against top 25 teams. You like that?

[Drew Franklin]

Of course, you know, bring them on. We're not, we ain't scared of nobody. Bring them on. Let's play them.

[Matt Jones]

You say that but like you know you're going to have 12 top 25 games. You could be good go six and six and you just took six losses. I mean that's a hard schedule. We play Florida twice there on there. We play Tennessee twice there on there. You know Michigan State is ranked. Gonzaga's.

[Drew Franklin]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

St. John's is ranked then. I mean even when you go to the non conference, Purdue, North Carolina is ranked. I mean all these teams that we play, Indiana is the only good non conference game in the year that's not, the team is not ranked.

[Drew Franklin]

I love it where it should be.

[Matt Jones]

You, you, you're fine with it.

[Drew Franklin]

I love it. I want this kind of schedule every year. We're like I said, we're Kentucky. We should play the best, best of the best.

[Matt Jones]

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[Drew Franklin]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back, techie. Sports Radio. Some people reminded me Kendrick and Lamar did that for a whole year. I just meant that theirs was a lot more direct. They were just like. They said very mean things about each other.

[Drew Franklin]

Big accusations.

[Matt Jones]

The women are kind of more subtle. Now, this is the Sally. This is the song. Shannon. Yeah.

[Shannon Ragland]

Sally runs out of wine. Or when the Sally.

[Matt Jones]

When the wine runs out, Sally win the Ryan.

[Shannon Ragland]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So see, now, you know, the. The. The thing people are interested in.

[Drew Franklin]

He just brings out a local celebrity.

[Matt Jones]

And that or sometimes you. I mean, you know, it's been. What have they been? They've been like Hillary Duff, I guess, all.

[Drew Franklin]

Natalie Portman.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. The woman from. What's the woman from Almost Famous. What's her name? Anyway, point being, like, famous people whose names I can't remember.

[Shannon Ragland]

Yeah, so famous you can't remember them.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. Kate Hudson.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. They're all Sally.

[Matt Jones]

They're all Sally. That's right. It was Sabrina 2 shoes. That's what Colin Chandler was wearing. I have some of those. Not the ones he has, but I have a different color. Sabrina, too. That's. It's a. It's. It's the female basketball player, but, like, tons of male players wear.

[Drew Franklin]

Very cool.

[Matt Jones]

There you go. 859-280-22-287. One person writes yes or no. Do we beat Purdue next Friday, Shannon?

[Shannon Ragland]

No.

[Drew Franklin]

I'll say yes.

[Matt Jones]

I'm gonna say yes. Why not? We're playing at home. We're gonna have a hu. For an exhibition game. We're gonna have a huge crowd.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm also worried Pope and Painter are gonna be treating this as an exhibition scrimmage where our fans are gonna overanalyze and treat it like it's a championship game.

[Matt Jones]

That's what we do. I'm fine with that.

[Drew Franklin]

See, I'm. I. I think Drew's right. I think Pope's gonna try to find the right combinations, the right players, and use this kind as a glorified scrimmage.

[Matt Jones]

But he's still going to want to win.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, but he's going to play a lot of guys.

[Matt Jones]

Painter do that?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know if he does. He had to have 14 guys he can play.

[Matt Jones]

What do you know the number one.

[Drew Franklin]

Team in the country.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, they have the number one team in the country. Like, figure it out. We have to remember that other teams have rosters, too, and they have needs, and they might want to do the same, but I'm saying they might. Maybe Matt Painter wants to do the Same.

[Drew Franklin]

So is Matt Painter as deep as Kentucky?

[Matt Jones]

I honestly have no idea what I'm asking you.

[Drew Franklin]

So he made Matt Payman play seven or eight guys. We're going to play 14.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. I would say that Purdue would probably look at guys that we know and think they don't register on their radar. Right. So, like our 11th and 12th guy, we know who they are. Yeah, Purdue probably doesn't. Purdue probably thinks their 11th and 12th guys are as good as ours. So chances are this just my guess, chances are both of those coaches will treat the game the same way, whether that is go out and win or play. I think they'll probably treat it the same.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, there's going to be a conversation, probably. What are we doing? And they're going to want to win for sure, especially being at home. Pope's going to give that to the fans. But I do think there's going to be a part of it where you.

[Matt Jones]

Don'T let off, but you're.

[Drew Franklin]

You're not.

[Matt Jones]

Do you think we'll have to go there next year?

[Drew Franklin]

I wondered if that's the agreement, because for Purdue to agree to this was a big move.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I can understand Georgetown coming because, like, no one's going to their preseason games anyway, but if Purdue were to host this game, they would fill that arena up and, yeah, Purdue fans would be very excited. I have to think that we said we would go there sometime.

[Drew Franklin]

I would think so, too. I mean, they have the number one team, one of the best players in the country that they thought was going to transfer or leave, and they end up convincing him to stay. Their excitement is as high as it's probably been in a long, long, long, long time. And they agreed to go to Lexington, so they've got to think they get something in return.

You think Pope's going to ask him not to play zone like Cal used?

[Matt Jones]

Pope's going to. I, I'm disagreeing with the premise. Pope's not going to try. Like, Pope's going to be playing to win. We'll play a lot of people. But if with six minutes to go, he's winning the. Trying to win the game, he's not like, let's see what happens with yellow bitch here.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. But I think in the first half and throughout the game, they will treat it a little different than they would.

[Matt Jones]

If it was the Final Four.

[Drew Franklin]

They'll get more bodies in and try things just to get a feel of what they have.

But you're right. That final six minutes, then you want to work on those Situations, those late game situations and try to win it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, pre bird. Go ahead, Free Bird.

[Caller]

Hey, guys, big shout out to Clay County. I've been working down here last week and a couple days this week. You've got a lot of listeners down.

[Matt Jones]

Here, guys, and I love Clay County. That's to me that those are Good Mountain 13th region people. And what are you doing down there?

[Caller]

Well, it's for my work. I. I do character education books for first and first graders down here in all the elementary schools and very great family and support for the children down here. And you got three businesses where.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. What are the two places that we always like to eat? There's that.

[Drew Franklin]

Pat's.

[Matt Jones]

Pat's. That's the kind of greasy spoon place. And then what's the place that was really nice that hosted us that one time?

[Drew Franklin]

It was. But we. Right next door, we did the show.

[Matt Jones]

What was that? It was really.

[Caller]

Whenever you're down here, you gotta eat. You gotta eat at Pizza Pro. And I asked him, do you ever listen to ksr? And they go all the time. I said, you ever hear a guy named Freebird call in and go, is.

[Matt Jones]

That you just put the pizza Freebird. Well, listen.

[Caller]

Makes the world get smaller, man.

[Matt Jones]

Well, thank you very much. Have. Enjoy it. Pizza Pro. Good. Clay County Pizza.

[Drew Franklin]

I remember Pat's really well.

[Matt Jones]

Shannon, I wanted to. I meant one to mention something to you.

[Drew Franklin]

What's that?

[Matt Jones]

Have you ever heard of Ohio Valley Pizza?

[Shannon Ragland]

No. Is it in Louisville?

[Matt Jones]

Okay. I've never heard this phrase before. You ever heard the phrase Ohio Valley Pizza?

[Drew Franklin]

I've not.

[Matt Jones]

Want you to look it up. Look up on your little Google machines. Ohio Valley.

[Shannon Ragland]

I've had a. How Valley Wrestling. Pizza.

[Matt Jones]

Well, of course, I mean, I've had Ohio Valley wrestling, but I went to. I was in Knoxville and I went to a concert a while back, and right down from the Tennessee theater was a place that said they served famous Ohio Valley pizza. And I went, what? Because of course, I'm thinking Ohio Valley wrestling, which is Louisville. And I was like, what is Ohio Valley pizza? So I went in and it was the worst thing I've ever tasted in my entire life.

[Drew Franklin]

Was it really? I thought you were.

[Matt Jones]

No, it was awful. It's pizza. You can look it up.

[Shannon Ragland]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

That they cook and then after they've cooked it, they put the toppings on it.

[Shannon Ragland]

Sounds like a terrible topping pizza.

[Matt Jones]

It's a cold topping pizza. They put the pepperoni and the cheese on the pizza after they cook it. And it's awful. It's the worst Thing I've tasted. I wonder why no one was there. I don't know how that place is open. No offense to it. Next close to the Tennessee Theater. But when did that. When was Ohio Valley Pizza a thing?

[Drew Franklin]

I thought you were talking about. There was a restaurant called that, but no, this has its own Wikipedia page as a style of pizza.

[Matt Jones]

Had you ever heard of it?

[Drew Franklin]

And I kind of like.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, we have pizza. Shannon, you and I live in the Ohio Valley.

[Shannon Ragland]

Never heard of it before, have you?

[Matt Jones]

Is there a place in Louisville that serves.

[Shannon Ragland]

If there is, I'm not aware of it.

[Matt Jones]

Are you aware of an Ohio Valley Pizza?

[Drew Franklin]

Never heard of it. And they're square pieces.

[Matt Jones]

There's square pieces.

[Shannon Ragland]

It sounds like a terrible concept.

[Matt Jones]

It's a horrible. It tastes as bad. Imagine a hot pizza with cold toppings on top.

[Shannon Ragland]

I would say put this back in the microwave.

[Matt Jones]

So would I.

[Shannon Ragland]

Or the oven or something.

[Drew Franklin]

It's like the Papa Murphy's taken bakes. You just don't bake them.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's exactly right.

[Shannon Ragland]

Raw pizza.

[Matt Jones]

But A, I can't believe it exists. B, I cannot believe it's named for where we live. And I don't. Do you. Is there one place in Kentucky that serves it?

[Drew Franklin]

No, it says mostly Pennsylvania, Ohio and West Virginia. But it was created in Steubenville, Ohio. A guy in World War II ate pizza in Italy and came home and tried to recreate it and obviously wasn't very good at getting it perfect.

[Matt Jones]

First of all, that's not what they do in Italy. In Italy, they do cook the toppings.

[Drew Franklin]

He just tried to do it by memory is what this says here.

[Matt Jones]

And that's what he got the part of putting it in the oven in Steubenville.

[Drew Franklin]

But I guess they're big in West Virginia too.

[Matt Jones]

Had never heard of neither. Do not recommend it, but good. I was thinking, I mean, I guess Ohio Valley does go into Pittsburgh, but I'm thinking Ohio Valley wrestling.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Ragland]

And I'm like, is better.

[Matt Jones]

Our pizza at the arena is better than that. It really is awful. 859-280-2287. We'll take a break. Be right back. KSR TJ Smith, personal injury attorney.

[Drew Franklin]

Call TJ.

[Matt Jones]

He'll make him pay.

[Shannon Ragland]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

So this is. This is Taylor Swift about. Did about Charlie 14.

[Shannon Ragland]

That's right.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

She said, I heard you call me boring at the parties. Boring Barbie.

[Shannon Ragland]

I heard boring Barbie when the Cokes got you brave. High five. My ex and then you said you're glad he ghosted me.

[Matt Jones]

Wow. Coke's gotten. She doesn't mean Coca Cola.

[Shannon Ragland]

No, I think she means cocaine.

[Matt Jones]

Wow.

[Drew Franklin]

Taylor gets pretty nasty in her.

[Matt Jones]

She's harsh. That's why Travis Kelsey can't break up with. No, he's over.

[Shannon Ragland]

She later calls her a toy Chihuahua barking from a tiny purse.

[Matt Jones]

I know she had that kind of rage bait in her. And do we know it's about her?

[Shannon Ragland]

Yeah. I mean, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, I want to give a shout out the Lexington Harold leader, who I've been critical with over the years, but they're doing something cool. You know, Lexington 7, it's 250th anniversary, right? So every single day, they're doing something about Lexington. Okay, History, Good fact, bad fact, whatever. They're actually really good. Cool. Today's I wanted to point out, because it's about UK football, and specifically it's about Middlesborough. As many of you know, Kentucky integrated the SEC football for players, right? Nate Northington, the Hog. What's Houston Hogg. And Wilbur Hackett, and then a guy named Greg Page. And a lot of people know Greg Page because the apartments that were at Ukraine. But Greg Page was from Middlesborough. Greg Page and Nate Northington were actually the first two people to come to be on the team. But as freshmen, they were not allowed to play. Then the next year, they were allowed to play. But in preseason practice, Greg Page died on the field. He got. He got hit and suffered a neck injury. And he. I think he ended up dying six weeks later in the hospital. It's kind of a forgotten part of UK history. He's one of the four people, though, honored in front of the stadium. But the other three played. Greg, unfortunately didn't get to play in a game. He's from Middlesbrough. Growing up, I knew his name forever, but this is a neat part of the story. I didn't know. So he died in 1967. In 1968, the Kentucky and Tennessee basketball team agreed to play a fundraiser at Middlesborough High School. Preseason basketball fundraiser. Kentucky played Tennessee at Middlesboro high school in 1968. So I'm trying to think who would have been on that team. I don't even know who would have been. Like, it was after Rupp's runs before, but before Issel. So that group, whatever it is, they played Tennessee. 4000 people at Middlesborough High School, which created a benefit that set up a scholarship that still exists to this day, the Greg Page Scholarship that sends students from Bell county to the University Of Kentucky.

[Drew Franklin]

Fantastic story. Awesome.

[Matt Jones]

So think about that. First of all when you see the Greg Page apartments which they're talking about tearing down.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

For the entertainment district, unfortunately. But when you see that name one of the first players to integrate UK football from Middlesboro, they leads to a game between Kentucky and Tennessee in the preseason in Middlesboro. Does anyone remember that? That's the first I've ever heard of this.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm trying to look up like a box score or something right now as we're talking.

[Matt Jones]

It was a preseason game. Not it was non radio. It was just for the people in Bell County.

[Drew Franklin]

I've never heard of this and I love every second of it though.

[Matt Jones]

And then the money there started a scholarship that is still inactive today that still exists today for students from Bell county to go to.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm really glad the Herald Leader writes this story because most people just know the Greg Page name from the apartments. They need to know who Greg Page was, what he meant to this university and how much that devastated the program back in those days.

[Matt Jones]

And even though I knew all about all that, I didn't know about the basketball game.

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't either.

[Matt Jones]

Had no idea. And so kudos to Tennessee. So the University of Tennessee helped do a game that created a scholarship that still send kids from my home area to uk.

[Drew Franklin]

The story says the game was played in February. So they would have had to done it didn't during the year.

[Matt Jones]

They did it during the year.

[Drew Franklin]

February 1968. I guess it didn't regular season game.

[Matt Jones]

It was just so in the middle of the season. They just played a game at Middlesborough.

[Drew Franklin]

High school in 19. In February 1968, a benefit basketball game was played in the Middlesboro gym between the UK and Tennessee freshman basketball teams.

[Matt Jones]

Played it still.

[Drew Franklin]

Still very cool.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Freshman basketball.

[Drew Franklin]

That's my wife. Didn't count towards the season. That's still cool that they did it though.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

And it says 4,000 people. That's nuts.

[Matt Jones]

You know they ought to recreate that. The Kentucky and Tennessee freshmen do like the 50 year anniversary or whatever. 60 year anniversary and play it at Middlesborough High School.

[Drew Franklin]

I need another Tennessee team to hate. Let's set it up.

[Matt Jones]

Good. Joshua. Go ahead, Joshua.

[Caller]

Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. With the starting five lineup kind of locked in with Low, OA and Garrison in the starting lineup. I was just kind of curious. Who do you guys think the other two spots for the starters would be and who the sixth man off the bench would be? And also do you without deep the team Is do you guys see them doing a mass substitution like a white blue team 15 kind of thing? No.

[Matt Jones]

No. All right, go ahead. What's your other one?

[Caller]

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[Matt Jones]

All right, appreciate it. All right, so starters low and away Drew are the only ones I would guarantee. I mean it's very likely Garrison starts but I would. Low and away are my only guarantees.

[Drew Franklin]

Are we doing to start the year or like February? Because these are different conversations.

[Matt Jones]

Let's do both.

[Drew Franklin]

Because Garrison to me is pretty much a lock to start the year right now. But that spot could be taken away.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. I would. I mean you're probably right.

[Drew Franklin]

I think quaint spending if he's four or five.

[Matt Jones]

Quentin though where they don't. Where they start Diabate and just are small. I don't think it happens. I don't think it's going to happen at the beginning of the year. But I could see games where they do it. All right, so let's say low away Garrison, opening night Purdue. Who's the rest of the lineup?

[Drew Franklin]

Dubate.

[Matt Jones]

Well, first of all, Sumo A plays. I assume he will but let's. He's going to play low OA Garrison. Diabate.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And then I'm down the Aberdeen or Chandler.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Probably I go back and forth.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going to go Aberdeen. I was going to. I thought Jasper Johnson. I know. I don't think he's going to start. So I'm going to say Aberdeen. I'm going to say it's going to be low away Aberdeen, Diabate, Garrison.

[Drew Franklin]

I think that's it. I think they want Chandler to be maybe their sixth guy because he could play two or three different positions coming off the bench. I think he's a perfect guy to play be that first sub off the bench.

[Matt Jones]

Shannon.

[Drew Franklin]

But the moment quaint is available, he's taking someone spot.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I could see it being diabate and quaintance. The only thing that worries me about this team, this is my only worry. You remember last year my worry was we can't guard. I think that ended up being a worry most of the year. Here's my worry about this year's team. I think overall they've got enough shooting. I specifically worry about the four spot. Until you get quaintance. I think Diabate I don't think he can shoot. So I think if you play him at the four, think about Mark Pope's fours. You got to shoot. Think about Ansley Almanor standing in the corner. I don't really think he can shoot. And then if you play Cam Williams, I think he can shoot, but I don't know if he can defend and rebound. So that's going to be, I think, a constant back and forth. Can they get what they need from the four? Because they need Diabate. Because that Amari Williams role of kind of dribbling and handing off, I think that's going to be what he does. But he's also going to have to shoot.

[Drew Franklin]

He had a decent percentage. He just didn't shoot much at Alabama.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but when you look at his shot. Yeah, I know whatever his percentage was, it's not. It's not pure.

[Drew Franklin]

But he's going to offer more at the four than like Andrew Carr ever could have dreamed of doing. And I like Andrew Carr. Pope just went a completely different direction with this year.

[Matt Jones]

Totally agree with you. And maybe he plays a style where the four doesn't have to shoot. Yeah, I think it's played last year. Your four's gotta hit that corner three. And I don't think that's gonna be what he does.

[Drew Franklin]

But I think like you said, he'll just kind of rotate those guys. Even yellow, you know, if you need to stand out in the corner, like get as many minutes as Almanor did and hit a shade a shot, I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

But I think with Elovich, Yellow, Vic and Garrison, that's not a good defensive.

[Drew Franklin]

So do you move devote the five?

[Matt Jones]

I think you're gonna. I think people are underestimating how much he's gonna play the five.

[Drew Franklin]

I agree.

[Matt Jones]

I think he's gonna play. I think he's actually a great five and he can. But then the question is, can Trent Noah and Cam Williams do enough to be the 4? And if the answer is yes, then I think you're good.

[Drew Franklin]

I think you have too many fives to crowd it with Diabate.

[Matt Jones]

Some of them I don't. I continue to believe there's a very good chance. Yellow Vich doesn't play much, at least some for a while. But I still think everybody just assumes he's going to play a lot. I don't know that that's true.

[Drew Franklin]

I still see him as more for. I'm talking Garrison Marino is going to play. I thought he might be storm on the bench for later. Marino was playing minutes But I could.

[Matt Jones]

See Marino playing four because I think Marino is a lot more of a four than yellow bitches. Yovich cannot guard. I mean, yellow is going to be the worst defender on the team. Like he's. He's z defending.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So you just. I think you have to hide him at the 5 or you can't really play.

[Drew Franklin]

And it might be the case we don't have a true 4 and a 5 with this. With the way Popo run, the system, might have a guy you're calling the five, but in how they play, might have a little bit of a different role. Might be a little more fluid inside.

I do like the abate role that Amari had last year at the when he plays the five, I think he can handle that role.

[Matt Jones]

I think I listen, we're going to like Diabate. I just don't think he's a shooter. I do think our guards shoot better than maybe we thought they did. Yeah, all of them. We've got the men's Lexington Sporting Club team. They have a game Friday, October 17th. It's the final game at home. They play against the Sacramento Republic FC at 6:00pm it's exactly right. Let's say you're like, yeah, UK Texas is going to be crowded. We're going to lose. How about Lexington SC? Sacramento Republic? First 2000 fans in attendance, get a Lexington SC beanie. Shannon.

[Shannon Ragland]

That's cool. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You can rally behind the lads in green. Didn't you have a couple of them on your show there, Shannon? Speedy.

[Shannon Ragland]

Speedy.

[Matt Jones]

And Nick is his name really Speedy?

[Shannon Ragland]

I think that's his nickname. He hasn't scored a goal though, in three years. So we got to get Speedy a goal this Saturday.

[Drew Franklin]

It's my favorite part of the interview. Billy asked him, like, what his celebration is. He's like, man, I haven't scored in several seasons.

[Shannon Ragland]

Still celebrate other people's goals.

[Matt Jones]

But you know what he's scoring this Saturday? You wait and see. Speedy is scoring against Sacramento FCSR Bump. We got to keep a track, see if Speedy gets his goal. You go to lexsporting.com tickets to watch or watch the game on Fox 56.

[Drew Franklin]

There you go. They're on a hot streak, by the way. They started a little cold. They're a contender over there.

[Matt Jones]

Let's go. Lexi to Desi. We'll be right back. KSR.

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[Drew Franklin]

The most recognizable name was Larry Steele. He went on to be all SEC on the, on the big team, the varsity team.

[Matt Jones]

So Larry Steele played at middles, played NBA. Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

From Indiana.

A lot of the other guys didn't go on past their freshman year. There's only seven people on the team. But Steve Schmidt led the team in scoring against Tennessee. He had 34 points as Kentucky won by 2094.

[Matt Jones]

So I'm sitting here looking 6 foot 11. Steve Schmidt scored 34 points in Middlesborough High School. Did he play at Kentucky?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't believe he did.

[Matt Jones]

What happened to it?

[Drew Franklin]

I've never heard that name.

[Matt Jones]

Why did Rupp run him off?

[Drew Franklin]

Nil. Money.

[Matt Jones]

34 points, 6 11. Yeah. Beaten Tennessee Shannon. Where'd this guy, where'd he go? We had some lean years there in the early 70s, didn't we?

[Shannon Ragland]

Must have been a troublemaker off the court. What I'm hearing couldn't get on the court because of something.

[Matt Jones]

Wasn't that. Didn't we struggle a little bit? Late 60s, early 70s.

[Drew Franklin]

That's the Issel era.

[Matt Jones]

But don't you think Issel could have been helped with 611 Steve Schmidt?

[Drew Franklin]

How about. How about Greg Staric who transferred to Southern Illinois because Rupp didn't give him any playing time and he had the NCAA record for decades for free throw shooting percentage. He shot 91%. He had the record not just for a little bit, for a long time.

[Matt Jones]

He ran off Steve Schmidt and Greg Merrick. Not even to mention Bob McCowan.

[Shannon Ragland]

Could you imagine Kentucky sports radio back then? All those calls to fire up.

[Matt Jones]

Let me tell you about Greg Starik.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, it gets better. Greg Starrick committed to Kentucky over the Cincinnati Reds who offered him more money. But he still picked the Cats and Adolf still wouldn't play him. So he went out and got an.

[Matt Jones]

NCAA record with the Sometimes there's time to make a change. That's why they wanted to send RUP.

[Drew Franklin]

Off the Duke Steven Peak has a KS board thread. He found an old book about Rupp and in it it. It's pretty eerie how it reads like Cal. It names an assistant he had who is suggesting new philosophies and Rupp was stuck in his old ways. If you read it and change the names, it could be a book about just a couple years ago a Kentucky.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean this would have been about this time of the Cal era. He's got Steve schmidt out here dropping 34 on Tennessee 611 dominant big. He's got Greg Starik unstoppable.

[Drew Franklin]

So Greg is Johnny Juzing. He went off and just started lighting him up.

[Matt Jones]

So who's our 611 then? Went and played well elsewhere.

[Drew Franklin]

Sasha Clay Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, he didn't play great but Sasha Collette. No, Schmidt is Z after the Georgia game. Yeah, Smith is Schmidt is Z.

[Drew Franklin]

Exactly.

[Matt Jones]

Wow. By the way, Tennessee had Jimmy England and Valley Louisville Valley High product Bobby Ball. Somebody out there listening knows who Bobby Ball was. Never thought they'd get a shout out on ksr.

[Drew Franklin]

Shout out?

[Matt Jones]

They just did. Joe and Philly go ahead.

[Drew Franklin]

Joe Stark Average 24 points by the way.

[Matt Jones]

For who?

[Drew Franklin]

Southern Illinois.

[Matt Jones]

What are you doing? Let's go ahead Joe.

[Caller]

The underrated lineup pre game layup line guy Shade and sharp. You didn't mention him.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I did. Whole shade and sharp. Cal saying come watching Duncan warn them ups. That's one Even at that stage I was still kind of trying to like be a Cal supporter but that he that was one. I think he lost a lot of fans with that whole shade and sharp thing, don't you think?

[Drew Franklin]

Yes, he did.

[Matt Jones]

I really do. And especially his. Well, you can come get to watch him dunking warm ups. That was one, I think really irritated fans a lot.

[Drew Franklin]

That's the first time where I actually thought he's toying with the fan base, like kind of mocking them a little bit for even wanting to see this kid when we should be seeing this kid.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. And we don't get to see him play because he plays in Portland. But he's good.

[Drew Franklin]

He's really good.

[Matt Jones]

He's really good in the NBA. But go ahead, Joe.

[Caller]

Drew, you and Abby kind of Swift fans, right? You guys were gone last week.

[Drew Franklin]

That's right.

[Caller]

I think you're Swift fans. If you are. What's. What's the review on the album and from your perspective?

[Drew Franklin]

I have not listened to the album, so I'm that big of a fan.

[Matt Jones]

She has.

[Drew Franklin]

So I'll hear a little bit. But I have not locked into whatever. Life of a show girl. Not locked in yet. It's football season.

[Matt Jones]

She's. I saw. It's the first album. Appreciate the call, Joe. In history to have every single song on the album debut in the top 100. No song. No album has ever done that. Morgan Wallen had an album where There were like 15 songs and 13 of them debuted. But Taylor Swift's the first one to have every single song on the album debut. Good for her. You don't find that impressive?

[Drew Franklin]

I will not listen to any of them. Not one. You.

[Matt Jones]

Your hatred of her. And it goes a long time. Yeah, it does. And it's so weird because it's unlike you. She seems like she would like. You would like her.

[Drew Franklin]

I think she's a great person.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. But that has nothing to do with why you. Why do you get so angry about her music that had anything to do.

[Drew Franklin]

With her music, which I think is average at best.

But there's probably a lot of music you don't listen to and like. But you seem to really go after.

[Matt Jones]

Special disdain for her.

[Drew Franklin]

I hear one of her songs on radio and immediately turn the channel. Immediately turn the channel.

But do you do that with other artists?

[Matt Jones]

No.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, that's what we're asking.

[Matt Jones]

So why does it. Why does she bother you so much?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know. You know, it's fingers down a chalkboard, I guess.

[Matt Jones]

Nails.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Fingernails down a chalkboard.

[Matt Jones]

Jim. Go ahead, Jim. A little.

[Caller]

I'll give you a little information about Dusty.

[Matt Jones]

All Right. Go ahead.

[Caller]

I'll give you a little information about Steve Schmidt.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Caller]

He left UK. He left UK to become a professional bowler.

[Matt Jones]

No, he didn't. He's 611 UK. Then he dropped 34 against Tennessee and left to become a bowler.

[Caller]

Yeah, well, he was playing behind Dan Issel. What we. What would you do?

[Matt Jones]

I don't think I would go into bowling. So was he a good bowler?

[Caller]

I don't think I would. I don't know. Never heard of him again. He's like being a vice president, you know? You just never hear of him again.

[Matt Jones]

Wow. I appreciate the call.

[Drew Franklin]

Corey Price sent me the news article, and he transferred. He wrote in his letter he wanted to be clear that it does not reflect on the staff or the coaches. So I guess we were a little hard on Adolf because Steve Schmidt wanted to be clear it wasn't the staff's fault. Maybe he just really wanted to bowl.

Respect my decision.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. Shane Sharp said the same thing. There's a lot of people. Johnny Ju Zang said that. I think there's more to this. Steve Schmidt who choose.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm going to dig on this.

[Matt Jones]

Who chooses bowling? He drops 34 against the balls in a packed Middlesborough High School gymnasium.

[Shannon Ragland]

There had to be something personal between he and rup.

[Matt Jones]

And at the same time that Merrick's going to Northern Illinois to shoot all those free throws. Something's going on. Something was going on in 1968. Wait a minute. 1968? That was when all the protests were on campus. You think they were hippies?

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe.

[Shannon Ragland]

Probably.

[Drew Franklin]

Y.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe Steve Schmidt might have been a hippie. We'll see you tomorrow. It's been KSR.