2025-10-17- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – Hour 1

Date: October 17, 2025
Host: Matt Jones with Ryan, Drew, Shannon, and callers
Recording Location: 46 Solutions, Lexington Green, Lexington, KY

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Episode Overview

This episode of KSR sets the scene for an electric sports weekend in Lexington, with UK’s Blue-White basketball game, the major UK vs. Texas football matchup, ScareFest, and more filling the calendar. Matt Jones and the crew cover the vibe around fan anticipation (or lack thereof), the state of UK football and basketball, implications of massive NIL budgets, and even a sidetrack into haunted dolls (Annabelle) and Adam Sandler’s visit to campus. The conversation is lively, self-deprecating, and quintessentially KSR—part sports talk, part cultural barbershop.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. "Old Men" in Pro Sports: Still Got It

• [01:01–03:15]
  • Matt opens the show inspired by older NFL athletes, after watching Joe Flacco and Aaron Rodgers (both over 40) ball out the previous night.
  • Discussion extends to 41-year-old Max Scherzer pitching for the Blue Jays.
  • Panel indulges in age-related banter: "I'm over 40. Why can't I play in the NFL?" – Matt ([02:12])
  • Uplifting moment for “old fogies out there dominating.”
  • Flacco’s gray goatee as a symbol: “Yes. Joe Flacco, go out there and do it for our gray.” – Drew ([03:09])
  • “Go. He's got low T, but he can still thread the knee.” – Matt ([03:11])

2. Big UK Sports Weekend: Excitement & Apathy

• [04:11–07:10]
  • Fans in the crowd are polled: much more excitement for the Blue-White basketball exhibition than the UK-Texas football game.
  • Concern for football’s local popularity: “That's a bad sign for the UK football program.” – Matt ([04:43])
  • Possible reasons: apathy about the football team’s prospects against Texas; fear of being “crushed.”
  • Even with marquee opponents, advanced ticket sales lackluster.
  • “It's also a bad sign when the conversation has been more coaches buyout than the upcoming game.” – Shannon ([06:24])

3. UK Football: A Crossroads and State of the Program

• [07:18–08:41]
  • National media painting the UK football program as “hopeless as any in the Power 4 right now” (Seth Emerson, The Athletic).
  • Wins over Texas or Tennessee could change narratives.
  • “If you beat Texas... I'm going to give them a ton of credit... go into the Vandy, Auburn, Louisville games with a chance to save your job.” – Matt ([08:07])
  • General consensus: Kentucky fans are loyal but drawing the line—if this game isn’t entertaining, some are “packing it in for the year.” ([11:37])

4. The Arch Manning Factor: Star Power in Lexington

• [08:41–11:48]
  • Arch Manning’s arrival seen as a generational star moment for Lexington.
  • Other historic "star power visits" compared: Tim Tebow, Shaquille O’Neal, Cam Newton, Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson, Pete Maravich, and even gymnast Livvy Dunne.
  • Noted by Drew: current NIL rules and commercial sponsorships amplify a player's fame uniquely in modern times.

5. Game Predictions and Outlook: Any Hope vs. Texas?

• [13:27–14:08]
  • “You need Arch to not have his breakout moment. Kentucky cannot score points. They just can’t. So you gotta win in the teens.” – Drew ([13:29])
  • Texas’s vulnerabilities: Some OL injuries; “If Kentucky can force turnovers, maybe they have a chance.” – Shannon ([13:56])

6. Lexington Life and Old KSR Moments

• [14:19–15:15]
  • Banter about the 46 Solutions venue and AV setups.
  • Flashback to Ryan’s video of one-handed push-ups for UK football pregame shows—he does it again live, to the crowd’s delight: “He’s got old man strength still.” – Shannon ([15:10])

7. Historic Star Visits Revisited & Big Basketball Talk

• [16:53–18:00]
  • Pete Maravich, Charles Barkley, Dominique Wilkins, Livvy Dunne, Akeem Olajuwon among the names revisited as major stars who played in Lexington.
  • Transition to basketball discussion: UK’s reported $22 million NIL roster budget and national expectations.

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NIL, Roster Spending, and Expectations

1. $22 Million Roster: Final Four or Bust?

• [18:00–24:24]
  • National pundit pressure: “If Mark Pope doesn’t make a Final Four with $22 million, it’s a failure.” – referencing Jeff Goodman ([18:00])
  • Seth Davis’s assertion: Kentucky’s current spending is unsustainable if it doesn’t win a title now.
  • Mark Pope’s response: “I’m fine with people knowing we spend the most. It’s Kentucky.”
  • Shannon: “If we’re going to spend $22 million, we can’t be losing to Oakland in the first round.” ([20:17])
  • Drew cautions against “Final Four or bust” oversimplifications; context (like NCAA tourney draws) still critical ([20:31])
  • Matt: “My view is it’s not my money, so I don’t care... It would bother me more if we as a program did not commit to compete with the top guys.” ([21:13])
  • On balancing football vs. basketball: “Isn’t the better investment to put that more money in basketball?” – Matt ([22:26])
  • Drew: “You gotta protect your best asset first.” ([23:05])
  • Industry context: next year’s NIL spending likely to drop substantially for all teams ([23:47])

2. Changing College Sports Landscape

• [35:42–36:59]
  • Contrary to predictions, NIL has arguably increased parity: “Look at teams in the top 10 in the last 25 years until NIL...” – Matt ([36:22])
  • “BYU is the perfect poster child for this.” – Ryan ([36:44])
  • Yet, “You can still get beat”—Oakland over Kentucky cited as an example ([36:59]).

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Annabelle Doll & Adam Sandler in Town: Culture & Superstition

1. The Annabelle Doll at ScareFest

• [26:29–28:52]
  • Supernatural chatter: the "cursed" Annabelle doll arrives in Lexington for ScareFest next to Rupp Arena.
  • Joking debate: Would you hold it? “Negative, Ryan might get possessed.” – Shannon ([28:25])
  • Ryan: “I’m not going to make eye contact with it. I want nothing to do with it either.” ([28:17])
  • “If anybody turns an ankle or anything in the blue white game tonight, I'm blaming Annabelle.” – Shannon ([28:40])

2. Adam Sandler's Visit

• [29:54–32:16]
  • Sandler meets UK men’s, women’s, and swim teams; wears customized “Sandler” UK jersey on stage.
  • “Loved it. That just shows a little appreciation for the people that love him. He’s giving it back.” – Ryan ([30:46])
  • Joke gone awry? Sandler reportedly makes an offhand comment about not wanting to jinx anyone’s Achilles—sparking KSR crew’s humorous concern about bad luck, especially with Annabelle in town.
  • Drew: “I’m worried about the Annabelle thing. We shouldn't have approved bringing her in for our launch of basketball season.” ([32:07])

3. Fact-checking the Sandler Achilles Incident

• [38:29–42:37]
  • Multiple listeners and Mario (live in the crowd) clarify: Sandler referred to someone tearing their Achilles in a pickup game, likely a local media member or fan, not a UK player.
  • Consensus: Public would know if a major UK basketball player had been injured before the Blue-White game.
  • “Sandler would know to read the room... if you just lost a star player, probably not his place to announce.” – Drew ([42:27])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “That’s a bad sign for the UK football program.” – Matt ([04:43])
• “If you beat Texas... go into the Vandy, Auburn, Louisville games with a chance to save your job. I don’t think how you win really matters.” – Matt ([08:07])
• “You need Arch to not have his breakout moment. Kentucky cannot score points. They just can’t. So you gotta win in the teens.” – Drew ([13:29])
• “If we’re going to spend $22 million, we can’t be losing to Oakland in the first round.” – Ryan ([20:17])
• “If, however, we get to a point that our football program is hindered because we’re putting all of our money into basketball, well, then I need basketball to be good.” – Matt ([21:34])
• (On Annabelle Doll) “I’m not going to make eye contact with it. I want nothing to do with it either.” – Ryan ([28:17])
• "If anybody turns an ankle or anything in the blue white game tonight, I'm blaming Annabelle." – Shannon ([28:40])
• "Loved it. That just shows a little appreciation for the people that love him. He’s giving it back." (Adam Sandler and UK jersey) – Ryan ([30:46])
• (On NIL’s real effect) “NIL actually brought us more parity.” – Matt ([36:32])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Aging athletes dominating: [01:01–03:15]
• Basketball vs. Football excitement poll: [04:11–05:27]
• State of UK Football & Coach’s outlook: [06:24–08:41]
• Arch Manning star-power debate: [08:41–11:48]
• Predictions and chances vs. Texas: [13:27–14:08]
• NIL, $22M roster and fan expectations: [18:00–24:24]
• NIL, program investment, balance: [21:13–24:24]
• Parity and changing college landscape: [35:42–36:59]
• Annabelle Doll and sports superstition: [26:29–28:52]
• Adam Sandler visit & injury rumor: [29:54–32:16, 38:29–42:37]

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Final Takeaway

This is a classic, digressive, witty KSR hour; its unique brand of sports talk weaves between serious critique, nostalgia, and tongue-in-cheek banter—whether it’s about generational athletic feats, UK’s shifting program priorities, or the perils of haunted dolls and celebrity appearances. The undercurrent: a fanbase passionate about both football and basketball, but wrestling with the realities of modern college sports, and always looking for a reason to believe, or a curse to blame.

Transcript

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[A]

Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio Friday. It is October 17th. I am Matt Jones here live at 46 Solutions in Lexington Green on an absolutely beautiful day with a great crowd here. We got folks made it all the way from Owensboro in a packed house getting ready for a massive UK sports weekend. The blue white game. You've got Kentucky versus Texas. You got parents weekend. You got Scare fest. There's all kinds of things going on in the Holiday Inn room. I saw just there was one. There was one hotel room online Holiday Inn. Guess how much it was, right?

[B]

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[B]

Why?

[A]

Because last night I watched two men over 40 years old. Even if one of them seems like the worst person ever. Aaron Rodgers the nevertheless, both of them bawled out two guys over 40. Ryan playing we now I'm over 40. Why can't I play in the NFL? That was the excitement I got last night watching Joe Flacco and Aaron Rodgers play football.

[B]

Last night was a great night for all of us old men who think we can still go out and do it with Flacco and Aaron Rodgers. And then Max Serger, 41 years old pitching last night for the Blue Jays. It was old, man.

[A]

Think about that. I loved it. All these old fogies out there dominating.

[C]

Yeah, but you two are well over 40. You're not 40. You're almost 50.

[A]

I just turned 40 recently, so I still can do it. And like, how young are you?

[C]

42.

[A]

Yeah, see, you're not well over 40.

[C]

I'm barely over 40.

[A]

Older than me. So all of this works out, Drew. It gives me energy for the weekend. When you see all these old guys.

[D]

Balling, it was a lot of fun. Every time they showed Flacco without his helmet and he had that gray in his goatee, I was like, yes. Joe Flacco, go out there and do it for our gray.

[A]

Go. He's got low T, but he can still thread the knee.

[D]

Also cover zero. You had Bengals. I had the over. I told you it'd be a shootout with these old men. It played right like we told you it would. It ended up being a fun game all the way around. I didn't really care who won. I just had fun watching it.

[A]

Yeah, I was excited. Had the Bengals pick. They're now kind of back in the mix after looking like they were going to be done. And Ryan, you know, one of these days, maybe there'll be a player over 6 60. That'll get you excited.

[B]

Well, I'm waiting for that day, but all those people, you know, people are complaining. Why'd they go get Joe Flacco? Why'd they go get Joe Flacco? Well, you saw the old guy can still hold around a little bit. I love it.

[A]

Hold and throw it around a little bit. That's right. We've got a Bengals fan in the crowd that. Were you happy last night? Yeah. Well, good. I did also see Joe Burrow was there. Did you see his haircut, Shannon?

[C]

Yeah, he looked a little disheveled. Just in general.

[A]

He looked like a junior at LCA with. I mean, it was. It was like down to his nose in the front. You don't see that a lot from a 20 some year old man.

[C]

Look, he's not dealing with this injury very well. Turf toe has not been good maybe.

[A]

So we got. We got a big weekend. So I got a question for you. Just the folks. I want you to be honest here in the crowd. I just want to do a little snapshot. Two events this weekend. Blue white game tonight, UK Texas tomorrow night. Which are you more excited? Who's more excited for the UK Texas game? Who's more excited for the blue white Game. That's a bad sign for the UK football program.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

When you're playing yourself at one game.

[A]

75, 25 for the exhibition where you are playing against each other and that out draws the football game with a Manning playing in our backyard.

[B]

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[A]

First time, for the first time ever, Matthew. Matthew McConaughey go to stand on the sidelines. That's not a good sign, Ryan, for sort of our, our football. I don't know, our football excitement.

[B]

So is it more the, the apathy that is set in for football or the excitement that's building up for basketball?

[A]

It's the. I think it's the former. I think, Drew, it's that people are kind of worried we're going to get crushed and they just don't want to sort of get their hopes up because normally you would obviously pick football if you were competitive.

[D]

I voted football. I, I don't think we're going to win and I'm worried we're not going to score a touchdown. But I, I still am excited to go see it because it is Texas and it is another chance to go watch a football game in Lexington. But I'll note it's not just here. Like, we were doing a YouTube show yesterday and Tyler was like, you know, it's almost a sellout. I'm like, it's sad that we can't sell out Manning. Keeneland October, 70 degree weather. Preseason number one team that should have been sold out in May.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, but it. There are already like Texas people. You can just see them like they've brought their hats, Shannon, and they're walking around. You know that that color of Texas shirt is not a color you would wear in public otherwise. Burnt orange.

[C]

It's also a little too close to that orange for Tennessee. Not quite, but it's still orange.

[A]

You know, they are. They're out and about and I think you're going to. You're going to see more. I was at Keeneland yesterday and there was a lot of people walking around with, with Texas gear. I think it's going to be a lot more of that.

[C]

I think so too. And you know, it's also a bad sign when the conversation has been more coaches buyout than the upcoming game this weekend. And that's been the entire story this week.

[A]

No, I mean, that has been the entire story and it's been, you know, so we've been, I think collectively, Ryan, fairly negative about the state of the situation. I think Seth Emerson of the Athletic, he's A national writer, he wrote yesterday that the Kentucky football situation looks, quote, as hope, hopeless as any in the Power 4 right now, which was not, which was not good to read. I think his point though is if you stay on the same path that you're on, do you. But now here you go, Texas and Tennessee. Double T's coming here in the next eight days. I know it seems ridiculous, but if you want one of those, it is a different outlook, isn't it?

[B]

100%. That's a big, huge win for you, able to knock off one of those two teams that when the season started, both people thought, we're going to make the playoffs.

[A]

Well, you could knock Texas definitively out of the playoff. They lose to us, it would be, they're, they're done. And you could potentially even knock Tennessee out of the playoff depending on what happens against their game against Alabama tomorrow. So you, I mean, you have a chance to knock two really good teams out of the playoffs. I mean, I, you know, you have a chance to get your fourth win, then you sit there and you go, well, Vandy, Auburn, Little, I mean, it's not crazy, right? I'm, I'm trying.

[D]

It's pretty crazy. It's pretty, it's a little crazy. I think if he beat, if you beat Texas tomorrow, I can't believe I'm saying this preseason number one team, but he would still need more the rest of the year. Unless you scored like 40 points and maybe there was a flip switch on the off.

[A]

Oh, he still needs more than one.

[D]

Winning, like 17 to 13 isn't going to do much.

[A]

Yeah, but I disagree with that. If you beat Texas. Shannon, I'm not going to be to the point where I'm going to say how you beat a matter right. If you beat Texas, I'm going to give them a ton of credit. And, and I'm going to say you go into the Vandy, Auburn, Louisville games with a chance to save your job. I mean, I, I, I don't, I don't think how you win really matters.

[C]

Well, the problem is though, I haven't seen anything that has given me any hope over the last few weeks that would say that that's even going to happen. But we can talk ourselves into it. We might as well try to be positive about it. And if it did happen, then yeah, there would be some fans that maybe would be back on board a little bit, but you still got to finish the season and with more wins.

[A]

I wanted to ask you, Ryan, I mean, Arch Manning, I know he's not played up to the hype, but you can make a strong case that Arch Manning is one of the biggest stars to play in college football in a long time. Maybe one of the biggest stars to play in college sports in a long time. I was gonna ask you if you're just talking about star power. I'm not talking about talent, but star power. I was trying to think, how many times has an athlete come into Lexington with bigger star power than Archman? So this was just what came to my mind. I think Tim Tebow had more star power when he was here. Shaquille o', Neal, when he came playing for lsu, probably at that moment, had more star power. Maybe Cam Newton that year. He came because he was on the path and playing so well. But that was still early in his year before he had really taken off. But I cannot think of a lot more. Tebow, definitely. I think Shaq, definitely. Maybe you go back to the 80s when David Robinson played at Navy and came here, and that was. That was a really big deal. People forget he'd already been on the COVID of Sports Illustrated at that point. Can you think of any more?

[B]

No, because I don't remember the Phil scheme here. Did Peyton Manning play? Did we did.

[A]

They did. But I think he played here his junior year. So when he was the highs, I think we went there that year.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Most of the crazy celebrity superstars has been coaches that have come in, not necessarily these players you're talking about.

[A]

I mean, there were guys who were really good, like Lamar, but I don't think Lamar was as big a star at Louisville as he ended up being later in life.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Can.

[A]

Can you think of any off the top of your head?

[D]

No, because Nil's changes so much. Arch is on like every commercial now. Like, Dak brought the number one team in here. I'd say he's bigger as Arch as a player, but Arch is just so much more exposure now in the world we're in. I think Lamar and those guys could have been bigger. They just didn't have the opportun as soon as he has now because he's doing national commercials for huge brands and.

[A]

The big dudes in college basketball over the years, for whatever reason. I just don't think we ever played them here. I mean, obviously we played Cooper Flag last year, but that was on a neutral court, and so that's not quite the same. We didn't play Zion, you know, like Jimmer for Debt. We didn't play. It's hard for me to think of.

[B]

One I guess Herschel Walker probably played.

[A]

Here a long time ago, before my time. But that might be one.

[B]

And I don't know if Bo Jackson, adult and Auburn ever play here when he was playing.

[A]

I don't know. Does you people this. Everybody's shaking their head. I don't think Bo Jackson played here. So my point is just to say. And if you have one. 77-2774-52-54. My point is just to say, like, this is a pretty big deal, this game tomorrow. I do think a lot of people are going through. Like, I actually think Kentucky fans are going to have a big showing there. I think there'll be a lot of Texas fans, too, but I think Kentucky fans have been. But I've gotten. Since talking to people, they're doing like, this is the last time I'm going this year. Unless this is entertaining. No, no. I mean, I've heard that from friends. Like, I'm going to this one, but if this one's not entertaining, then I'm probably packing it in for the rest of the year.

[D]

I'm hearing a lot of I'm going to tailgate, then going home to watch on my couch. Like, we have. We have a group of friends. They probably haven't been to a game in three years. We have a big tailgate. It's like five parking passes together. Everybody's excited. And then at 6:45, everyone's going home and watching on their couch.

[A]

They're like, big. Well, you say they've done that, though, for three straight.

[C]

No, no.

[D]

They haven't been to a game in three years. They're excited to go tailgate. No, they haven't tailgated in three years. Like, people are excited to be a part of this, but I think a lot of people might say, all right, it's seven. Let's get the house. Like, there's big companies that are entertaining clients. Clients probably come have a few free drinks and then get on out of there. So I think the tailgating scene might oddly be really good, and then we'll see what it looks like inside.

[A]

Yeah, well, I still expect there's gonna be a lot of people in there. I mean, I. I think. And now, though, it's Shannon. The UK team has to perform. I mean, you know, we've had a couple weeks off here. The uk we just can't have. If we get run, I'll go so far as say, if we get run, Mark's gonna be run. Yeah, I mean, I. I don't know how he. He overcomes that.

[C]

And with as much orange as there may be in the stands this week, if we get blown out tomorrow, there's gonna be a lot more orange next week.

[A]

That's a really good point. If we were to get blown out this week, that Tennessee game next week could be a majority of Tennessee fans. Like for real, like. Because I think a lot of Kentucky fans would just sell their tickets. Tennessee fans are the easiest fans to sell to because they're so close. Ryan, that could be kind of an embarrassing scene.

[B]

Yeah. And we, we all know there's been a lot of people probably preseason planned the blue white game tonight. Game tomorrow, next week, Purdue game.

[A]

Next week's Purdue game.

[B]

I think a lot of families and people probably plan for that. That may all get changed. If they get blown out tomorrow, do.

[A]

We have any chance?

[D]

You need Arch to not have his breakout moment. Kentucky cannot score points. They just can't. So you got to win in the teens.

[A]

Yeah, I, I actually think you have a chance.

[D]

You can run on them a little.

[A]

You have a chance. They are not good.

[C]

They also.

[A]

We are neither.

[C]

They also.

[A]

But they're like. They are not a team. Shannon.

[C]

That you can't score and two other.

[A]

Offenses we might not be able to score on.

[D]

Oklahoma to say.

[A]

But you. But. But this is a team that we can play with. Yeah.

[C]

Two of their offensive linemen are out starting center out for tomorrow. So if you're trying to find some reason that Kentucky maybe would have a chance if they can maybe score off some turnovers, I think they have a chance. But if we're just playing a straight up game, I don't know.

[A]

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[D]

Do you wear shirts in here ever?

[B]

This place is awesome. I mean if you're building a home or remodeling a home and you want to have a man cave or an entertainment center, you, you got to come and check this out. They've got a lot of neat little toys and gadgets and where they display your monitors, it's outstanding.

[A]

Speakers, they do your sound systems etc, they've got all kinds of stuff. You got.

[B]

What is that?

[A]

Is that you doing one handed push ups?

[B]

That's happening.

[C]

That's got to be AI there's no way that's right.

[A]

No, I remember that. That was a long time ago.

[B]

That was a UK football pregame show when we used to do it at the stadium.

[A]

But that would have been so like 12 years ago you were doing one hand push ups. You want to re recreate?

[C]

I would love to see this.

[A]

Can he still do it in position?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

I want to see if you could still do this because 12 years ago you could do one handed push ups. Here we go.

[E]

One.

[D]

He's doing it.

[C]

Wow. He's got old man strength still.

[A]

He can still do it.

[C]

He hasn't lost his fastball.

[A]

I will say you're not as surprised you were in that video. He did it, but you did it. That's very good. All right, we'll take a break. Be right back to cs. Kentucky Sports Radio Life's messy.

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Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287 here at 46 Solutions. They got a business AV set up here that's incredible. You got massive video wall in person and we are live here. Great seeing some of the UK players that have been endorsers over the years, including Oscar. And now you're seeing a video of all the basket this year. So Peyton Manning did play here his senior year. It was Peyton versus Couch. We lost 59 to 31.

[C]

Wow, what a shootout.

[A]

Some, some other suggestions of guys that may have been big stars. What about Pete Maravich?

[B]

Oh yeah, you know they played that game in historic Memorial Coliseum which holds probably. What does it hold? 13,000. But you'd think there'd be over a hundred thousand people there. Everybody claims to have been there to watch Pete play that game.

[A]

Yeah, that was the game where like you had what was it that he and Issel both scored like a bajillion Points, right?

[B]

Yeah. I think Rupp made the decision. We're gonna let Maravich get his and stop everybody else. And then marriage. Marriage had like 50 something.

[A]

That was the idea. Boy, this really is like a video of Ryan's greatest hits. Is this you with a pig or something?

[B]

Yeah, when you had me in a cage trying to catch little pigs.

[A]

Yeah, that was. People say. People say we're mean to you. Charles Barkley, Dominique Wilkins.

[B]

Good ones.

[A]

I think probably this is a really good one. In recent years, maybe one of the biggest was Livy Dunn coming here for gymnastics. Shannon. Just a couple years.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, she's a huge star. That one may be bigger than Arch Manning.

[A]

Yeah. So. So anyway, that's happening obviously, this weekend. Let's talk about a basketball thing real quick.

[D]

We're gonna.

[A]

We'll talk more about the Blue White game. But we. Yesterday on the show, I mentioned the Herald Leader report about how UK's roster, according to Herald Leader, $22 million. Nobody has really pushed back on that. So let's just say for sake of argument that it's true. I think it, you know, I think if the Herald Leader article was definitively not true, UK would have said it. So let's just assume it's $22 million. That has led a lot of people nationally, including a lot of the traditional Kentucky haters, to come out of the woodwork. Jeff Goodman said if. If Mark Pope doesn't make a final four with $22 million, it's a failure. Seth Davis basically said something like, Kentucky will never be able to do this again with this kind of money. If they don't win this year, this is huge. You know, essentially the program will fall apart if they don't win the. In the title. Mark Pope actually had an interesting table. He didn't acknowledge 22 million, but he basically said, I'm fine with people knowing we spend the most. It's Kentucky. Which I actually think is a smart way to go, because you're essentially saying to players this is where you make money. But let's just talk about it from a fan perspective. Shannon, does it make any difference to you that it's $22 million? Like if it was. So we are one of the two or three highest rosters. It's either us, St. John's or Michigan. Those are probably the three highest paid rosters this year. Does that make it to you where you say we have to do better than if we say paid 12 and we were the 15th highest paid roster?

[C]

Yeah, I mean, I think you have to do better. But is it Final Four or bust? I mean, no. I mean, if you're looking at our expectation as a fan base, and Mark Pope acknowledges this, we want to win the championship every year. That's always the expectation, regardless of how much money we're spending.

[A]

But. But I guess what I'm saying is, over the course of the next however many years, is your expectation of what we should do going to fluctuate based on how much we're spending?

[C]

Probably so. I mean, I think you're going to always expect more. You're right. If you lose in the first round or the second round, you're going to have people going, well, he's got this kind of budget for his players, and he can't get out of the first or second round. That's going to be a huge criticism.

[A]

What about you?

[B]

I feel like if we're going to spend 22 million, we can't be losing to Oakland in the first round.

[C]

That's it right there.

[B]

You know, we got to at least make a statement that we were spending this money for the right reasons, and that's to win, make a run of championship, win games.

[D]

Nothing changed for me because you shouldn't lose in the first round anyway. And the Final Four bust thing, I know we say it. I've seen it all over the Internet in the last 24 hours. But, like, if he doesn't make it when you say bust, nothing's going to happen. You know, it's not final for a bust. If he wins the SEC and loses in the Elite Eight to a two seed as a one seed and doesn't make the Final Four, that's still good. That's not. Not a Final Four. That's why I hate the Final Four or bust. Because what does bust mean? We're not firing him. Firing him if he doesn't get to the Final Four.

[A]

Yeah, I agree with that completely. I mean. All right, so my view on the money, and I'm. I mean, this may change because this is just now starting, Shannon. Right, so, like, this may change. I don't know. But my view in my mind is it's not my money, so I don't care.

[C]

That's always my thought here. Like, I don't care.

[A]

It's not my money. I don't care. It would bother me more if we as a program did not commit to compete with the top guys. Okay? Now, if, however, we get to a point that our football program is hindered because we're putting all of our money into basketball, well, Then I need basketball to be good.

[C]

That's right. Yep.

[A]

You know, it's kind of like, I guess I would put it like this, like I don't care how much the Reds spend, but to me, the Reds need to spend enough that the product is not miserable. Right, right. And whatever that is, is what it is. But then if I find out that we don't resign Ellie De La Cruz because we're not spending the money, then that's going to start bothering me. Right. And if I'm going to change the whole roster so I keep Ellie and then I lose everybody else, well, then Ellie better be good.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think part of that, Ryan, is that's what I'm going to judge rather than the total overall number.

[B]

So I think football is where, you know, these die hard football fans are having a hard time understanding. If you want us to compete in the SEC against these other schools that are spending a lot of money, why can't we get some money? More money?

[A]

They do get money. They just get 10% less.

[B]

Yeah. Why don't we get more money so we can compete?

[A]

What I would say is what's the better investment for the. Because, because honestly, we're now like take this fan base sitting in here. Ultimately the job, Drew of the athletic director is to please this group of people. Right. To make this fan base happy. So what's the better investment? Spending the exact same amount of money on football and basketball as the other schools? We're probably spending the exact same money will make us at best middle of the pack. Or spending 20% more on basketball and we have a chance to win a national championship. Isn't the better investment to put that more money in basketball?

[D]

You got to protect your best asset first.

[A]

Exactly.

[D]

I wish, I wish both could be the best, but you have one that already is the best and you don't want that to slip. Also think with the money. I think there's a little bit overreact in two ways. One, I think this 22 million, this is going to change every year. There might be your football gets more, but this was also before Rev Share and we don't know how it's dispersed. Malcolm Marino could be on a three year deal. We don't know. This could be extended beyond. And they locked him up early with money that they had before all this got into place. So 22 million seems like a lot. I doubt it's that every year. And it could be a couple guys are locked up long term that we don't know about.

[A]

I would venture to say next year I could bore you with why it's so much money this year but next year, Shannon, there's a good chance it'll be half this.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And half this for all the teams in the country. Like this year you were blessed by God if you were a college basketball player this year because two different sources of money came together. Next year I think it's going to be about half for everybody. So I think next year you'll hear our rosters like 10 or 11 million and it still be might be the most expensive roster in the country.

[D]

And like a Hawthorne could be getting his money now on a two year.

[A]

You're exactly right.

[D]

Next year he's zero.

[A]

That I bet is happening where they paid a lot more in the first year because these rules were weird.

[D]

So I think everybody's freaking out over it when we don't even know what the agreement is with each player.

[A]

I totally agree. We're going to take a break. Take your calls. 859-280-2287. This is KSR. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live at 46 Solutions. 859-280-2287. Lexington based technology company for cyber security, video integration and IT support. They'll set up your home video center if you would like in home entertainment. Ryan's got one as well. 772-774-5254 is the text machine one person mentioning in terms of stars to come here when Houston came with Akeem Olajuwon.

[B]

And Clyde completely forgot about that. Some of those games back in the day where Rupp arena was just had all these massive stars coming in.

[A]

Yeah, people might remember. They used to in January or February on a Sunday leading into the NFL coverage of the day, Kentucky would play a home game at rup.

[B]

Right.

[A]

They played Navy that one year they played Houston. I feel like they played Syracuse with Ronnie Cycling once if I remember correctly. But they would play a non conference game.

[B]

Remember that I would be okay if we went back. It was just kind of a special thing that the fans looked forward to every year.

[A]

By the way, we might have a Sunday game this year. I don't know if people noticed the last day of the regular season we play Florida and I believe Drew, they are leaving open the possibility to play that game on Sunday afternoon. I don't think we've played a Sunday like noon 1 o' clock after church game in a long time but we might do it. I think I saw the last day of the regular season flex.

[D]

We did them a Few seasons ago, towards the end of the Cal era, he put three or four in there.

[A]

Well, he did like non conference, but I'm talking about. I don't think we've had. Because you know what they usually try to do on that final Sunday, Shannon, is have like three games to get you ready for March Madness. I just. We haven't played one of those in a long time. I. We might have one.

[C]

I seem to remember during the Tubby Smith era. I think it was senior night against Florida. They played on a Sunday, but that's the last one that I can remember. We may have played some along the way, but. Sticks out. Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I want to ask you this before we go to the phones. Owns the Annabelle doll.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I saw this.

[A]

Okay. So I don't. We talked about it once. I don't remember the detail. Explain to me the Annabelle doll. It's a doll that like has bad luck, right?

[C]

It's cursed. Yes. I believe the owner, the previous Matt Rife.

[A]

What is it?

[C]

It's. It's a doll that was cursed. And it was also the curse.

[A]

By who?

[C]

Spirits?

[A]

Yeah. So they just picked a doll out and said, I hate you.

[C]

I guess the spirits just overtook this doll. Have you seen the movie the Conjuring?

[A]

No.

[C]

Okay, well, it's in the Conjuring. Yes, it's. Yes, it's the basis of that movie.

[D]

So there.

[A]

But it's a real life thing.

[D]

Anyone that get nears it, moves it. They die like a week later. Yeah, it's kind of the thing.

[C]

So Matt Rife somehow hasn't died yet, though he has the doll now. He's the owner of the doll.

[A]

So everybody knows. It's nonsense, right?

[C]

No, no, not true. No. I mean people have literally died. This doll has moved.

[A]

I mean people have died at all the time.

[C]

This doll has been seen walking around in an apartment.

[A]

The doll walks?

[C]

Yes. The doll will get up and walk. It was on a report. I'm just saying it's basically Chucky in real life.

[A]

Yeah. What do you mean?

[D]

So you would hold Annabelle.

[A]

No.

[D]

Hold it.

[A]

Well, here's. We have a chance. So Annabelle doll is in Lexington and is at the convention center for Scare Fest, which by the way is adjacent to RUP Arena. They were. It was. It. It got. They took it across the street from the parking lot to the convention center and there's a priest with it. I don't know what he's doing.

[D]

Keeping everyone safe.

[B]

It's covered.

[A]

It was covered so people could see it. And then it will be At Scare Fest. Now, I would argue. If it's so dangerous, Ryan, why does it get to be at Scare Fest? Because, like. And would that make people not want to go to Scare Fest if it's so cursed?

[B]

Just asking me. I'm not going to make eye contact with it. I want nothing to do with it either. If it's so scary, you got to cover it up.

[A]

You don't make eye contact with it.

[C]

Negative, Ryan might get possessed.

[A]

No way home. If. If you had tickets to the game and it was going to be there, would you not go?

[B]

I would go to the game, but I wouldn't go look at it. I didn't. I don't want anywhere around it. Let it look at somebody else. Not look. Don't look at me.

[C]

If anybody turns an ankle or anything in the blue white game tonight, I'm blaming Annabel.

[D]

Why is Annabelle and Rina?

[A]

Well, the blue white game, though, is. Is at Memorial.

[C]

It's close, though. It's too close.

[A]

So to answer your question, would I hold it?

[C]

Yeah, of course. Oh, let's do it.

[A]

Because it's. Because it's. It's nothing. Okay. It's just that you're just.

[C]

It's just you're messing with demonic spirits. No, you're entering a world of pain. You don't know what you're doing.

[A]

You said Matt Rife owns it. He's fine. I mean, he's unfunny, but that. He was unfunny before.

[C]

His career's gone in the dumpster ever since. It's Annabelle's fault, but. Yeah, they take her on tour and, you know, it's a big money thing for them. They have to pay their, I guess, fee to go take a picture with it.

[A]

It's cursed. Why do they go see it?

[D]

I think you can look at it. It's more if you hold it or if you handle it. Yeah. Like if you interact with it.

[A]

There are rules to the spirit.

[D]

I think that's why the priest was there in this wooden box a little later.

[A]

That's not a real priest.

[C]

I don't know. I haven't checked his credentials. He could be.

[D]

I will say it looks like a Halloween express priest costume.

[A]

Yeah, I don't think it's a real priest. Well, I'm just saying, I mean, if it's at the convention there, it's not that far from my house, so I didn't know how far the vibes go around the sand.

[C]

If you start hearing some noises around your apartment tonight.

[A]

Now, Adam Sandler. Adam Sandler was at Rupp arena last night. He wore the uk. So first of all, let's go back. He went to uk. He met the men's basketball team, the women's basketball team and the swimming team. So he went around and saw the teams. Seemed like a really nice guy, just even from the videos. But also players were posting about it. People who know Adam Sandler say he's like the nicest celebrity in the world. So he goes. The men's basketball team seemed particularly excited to see him. Like, like huge fans. He invited them all to the show. The men's basketball team went. There's a picture. Almost all of them went. I think I saw nearly every player. He. UK gave him a jersey that said Sandler on it and then he wore it. Ryan on stage. He wore the UK jersey during his entire show. The Sandler jersey.

[B]

Loved it. That just a little shows a little appreciation for the people that love him. He's giving it back. So I loved watching him.

[C]

Big basketball fan. There was a movie where he had a Kentucky shirt on too.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Funny people. He's sitting in the doctor's office and he's wearing a Kentucky shirt.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, he loves basketball. I'm hoping we get a video of him getting a little pickup because he, he's known to do that anywhere. He can play game.

[A]

He can. He can oddly play.

[D]

There's stories of him being in big cities and just showing up to courts, no security, him by himself. Like, can I get in a game?

[A]

Now here's what I was going to say about sort of bad mojo. He made a joke. Now, I didn't hear the joke. Maybe somebody went and can tell me what the joke was. But he made a joke that had something that was like, I hope, you know, he was like trying to be self deprecating and he was like, I hope me being there didn't give him bad luck and lead to somebody tearing their Achilles.

[D]

Oh.

[A]

And fans were like, why'd you say that? Don't wish it into existence. Annabelle is right over there.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So are you worried about that at all, Ryan? The. The combination of Annabelle and the offhanded Adam Sandler comment.

[B]

Yes, of course I am. Maybe not so much, but the fact that Annabelle probably listening over there like, oh, I heard that. Adam Sandler.

[A]

So we just need to just get through this, Drew, so that we. Because I don't want everybody. I don't want people blaming Adam Sandler. I don't. Or Annabelle. Poor Annabelle.

[D]

Both. Both. I'm worried about the Annabelle thing. We shouldn't have approved bringing her in for our launch of basketball season. Up are. I don't know how that got past clearance.

[A]

Well, we'll find out. Who's up first.

[B]

Got Judy up first.

[A]

Judy. Judy. What's up?

[E]

Well, good morning. Well, first of all, I think Annabelle was in a Vincent Price movie.

[A]

Price. Okay.

[E]

But anyway, speaking of the. The 22 million, I was living the locked on Kentucky. And he said, Lance said that one division, A division NCAA basketball coach said if Pope didn't win a national championship within the next few years, he was a complete bozo.

[A]

Yeah, I don't care what any of those people say. I mean, right now, here's the way national college basketball media works. And it's always worked like this, but it's even more so true now. Now national college basketball media needs Kentucky to survive. Like, most people don't pay attention to college basketball till February. So if you're trying to get clicks, if you're a national college basketball person, there's only like three schools you can talk about that'll care. Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, etc. So because of that, they are incentivized to say outrageous things. It's the same thing that happens in politics. It just happens in college basketball, too. So we, we have to remember, like to say he's not a boat. He'd be a bozo for not in the Final Four. That's just a ridiculous comment. My thing is, if you're gonna say something like that, put your name on it. That's okay. If you're a coach, put your name on it and say he's a bozo.

[E]

Right.

[A]

You know?

[E]

Right.

[A]

You get one game. I use 2017 as example. We didn't make the Final Four, but we were the second best team in the country. We just drew North Carolina. What do you want me to do? You know, what do you want us to do? They were the only team that could beat us, and that's who we drew. So I just. I'm withdrew on the Final four bus. Stuff is. I just don't accept it.

[B]

It.

[A]

Right.

[E]

Well, I have one more comment. You know, golden being kind of adamant about Aberdeen leaving. My thinking is that they had to pay so much money to boogie flag that that they couldn't give enough money to Aberdeen.

[A]

Or it might just be. And I appreciate the call that we give more money Drew. Like, that's just what it is. And at some point, what are you going to apologize? You know, the Dodgers might not lose a game in the playoffs, but what are they supposed to do? Try to lose, you know, I mean, you can change the system and that's fine, but once the system exists, it's Kentucky's responsibility to maximize it and do the best they can in it. This is the system. If we pay more for Denzel Aberdeen. You know what? Sorry, Todd, that you're at a school that doesn't care as much.

[D]

And the Dodgers and Yankees, they don't win the championship every year.

[A]

They don't, you know, but you have a better chance.

[D]

Like their fans, I mean, they're disappointed, but they get excited about the next season because it's hard to win championships. What do we have, like one in 27 years? I mean, they're not easy. That's why when someone says you're a bozo for not winning one, I mean, they're not just right in front of you. Go grab. They're pretty hard to get. And on the. On the money thing, just, sure, it's money. We all like money. But Kentucky has had more advantages forever. The advantage is just now financial. Just things we've had, we've talked about. We've got the best fans, the best dorms. That was an advantage before. It just wasn't a dollar.

[A]

And also, remember, I think this is important. Everything that people predicted would happen when NIL started, the exact opposite happened. Literally everybody said, well, this is going to make it to where there's the haves and the have nots. And I was like, well, it feels like there were haves and have nots before. But what ended up happening is a new set of teams got good, right? Indiana got good. That didn't happen. Vandy got good. Like these teams who had never been good one. So we kept hearing, there'll be no parity. NIL actually brought us more parity. And I would look at the college basketball rankings right now. Look at teams in the top 10 in the last 25 years until NIL, when was Houston consistently in the top 10? Purdue, Texas Tech, BYU. I would argue, Ryan, NIL made college basketball a lot more equitable. BYU, whereas like North Carolina has taken a dive. Kansas hasn't been as good the last couple years.

[B]

BYU is the perfect poster child for this. They would have never been around and what in the top 10, but not for nil. They can go out and now get players, make the program better. And now they're a top 10 program.

[C]

So you look like, what was Oakland's nil when they played Kentucky and beat them in basketball?

[A]

You could still get beat.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

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[A]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Alright, so I don't want to I don't want to say this without verification. So if you were at that concert, the Adam Sandler concert last night, write me on the text machine and tell me what he said because a couple people are saying something. I want to make sure it's what he said. So 772-774-5254 I thought it was a joke, but now people are telling me it was something different. So send me a text and I'll I just want to make sure before I read what he said that it is actually what he said. Right? Because I had no reason to to do it otherwise.

[B]

Mario was there last night at the concert.

[A]

What did he say? So he said he was playing pickup basketball at UK and somebody tore their Achilles. But you don't know if he was serious.

[C]

I'm gonna guess it was a joke. I think we would have heard about it.

[A]

But he said thoughts up to him. Hope they're doing okay. That doesn't sound like a joke, but is that what he said? He did say it. Okay well, did he sound like he was serious? Sounded like he was serious now, but we don't know if he was playing with the UK players or just students. But that was two days ago. That girl tore her ACL a couple days ago, so I don't think that would have been her. He was playing with a media team. Oh, so there's somebody in the media that tore their Achilles.

[C]

Now, who do we think that would be?

[D]

I don't know this, but if it were a UK player, there's a big. When they're practicing to run, if something happens, like. Like everyone in the room. We're not talking about this kind of thing. If. If. If, like a main player for the team. I don't think Sandler would have said that to the crowd. I think he would have known the circumstances.

[A]

So wait a minute. So you. You're saying he was playing with media people? So this could have been, like, Dave Baker.

[C]

How come we didn't get invited if it's media?

[A]

KSR versus Alan Cutler, the cut man cut his Achilles.

[C]

Yesterday's is unfiltered.

[B]

I think Alan was at the concert last night, too, so scratch him off. Wasn't him.

[A]

Okay, but he did say somebody tore their Achilles. All right, I'm just gonna. First of all, I hope no one tore their Achilles, but it sounds like someone may have torn their Achilles. Mario, by the way, if you knew this, why didn't you tell us this before? You thought he was. How's that a joke? Sorry. To the guy who tore his Achilles. Yeah, but Adam Sandler can say something serious. Come here. Just a second. Get up here. Shannon, give him your thing real quick. Come on up here. Just because we. We're doing live reporting here. All right, so you were at the concert. I was. And what did he say? He said, I hope that person's doing well.

[D]

He's kind of talking in circles.

[A]

And he was like, somebody, like, tore their Achilles, and you thought that you just were cracking up in the crowd. I wasn't cracking up. I wasn't sure if I was hearing right. He tore his Achilles. That's the show. Sandler, you crazy. I was not like that. So. But. But he. He didn't say it was a basketball player. He just said, somebody. Yeah, he said. I wasn't listening. I heard tor Achilles. Like, somebody just started laughing. Oh, I wasn't laughing. I was just. I didn't think he was serious. You know how Adam Sandler is. Yeah. Okay. You can hear it, like, in a crowd, everybody just got quiet, like, because they thought it was so funny. No, I just. Okay.

[B]

All right.

[D]

All right.

[A]

Well, thank you for the update. I agree with you, Drew. I would lean to say, no way it's a player, because that. You're right. I've been there when somebody got hurt, and everybody sits there and goes, we're not saying this. Everyone agrees, and they kind of all agree not to speak about it, so. And then there's a picture of almost all the team. They have big smiles on their face. If somebody gotten hurt, I think. I don't think they would have been out partying that night.

[D]

And, you know, I think Sandler would know. Be able to read the room. If you just lost a star player the day before your scrimmage, he probably knows it's not his place to just announce it to his audience at Rupp Arena.

[A]

And it could have been like, one of the managers could have been the media, although I don't know what media that would have been.

[C]

I just.

[D]

The other drama last night, though, and Mario could speak on this is I heard if you even looked at the clock on your phone, they were coming to throw you out of there.

[A]

It's no phones. No.

[C]

Mario got a picture, though.

[D]

Mario wrist it all for the KSR picture.

[A]

It's hard to keep people from having their phones in Rupp arena, but apparently they were walking around in. Like, you'd get in an ankle lock.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Taking that picture as he was laughing about players in concussion protocol.

[A]

All right, well, Mario, he's got a Kashi. Adam Sandler. Adam Sandler gets up and just want to say, hey, everybody, pray for my daddy's in the hospital. Mar.

[D]

I think we're glossing over that. Mario went and none of us did. And he's the one that's the youngest and didn't really know much about Sandler.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And now he's like, oh, just typical Sandler.

[A]

No, it's just how Adam.

[B]

Achilles.

[D]

Achilles song.

[A]

Sing me Achilles. Who's next? Got Jerry up next. Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry.

[E]

Hey. MAN on. The biggest players come into Commonwealth Stadium. Herschel Walker. When he came in in 1980, that was huge because he was a phenom, and they were on the way.

[A]

That again. Rick. Rick got my ear. What? Who was it?

[E]

I said, when Herschel came in here in 1980, okay, that was huge. It was bigger than them because they were on their way to the title, and that was in the hay.

[D]

Georgia football.

[E]

And then when he came in 82, that was when he won the Heisman. It was really big. And then the next year okay, well, he said the next year. You asked about Bo. He came in the next year, and that was big because Kentucky was 4 0, and they crushed us. But anyway, as far as this game goes, I'm hoping that, you know, we get a slug fest. 17, 14. But I'm just afraid that defense is legit and they're gonna hold us, like, three points. And. And. And the problem Texas has is their offensive line. It's not so much art.

[A]

What about the. What about the weather?

[B]

It's just supposed to be perfect. Like today, I think it's supposed to be a great day tomorrow, so when.

[D]

It'S supposed to rain, there's supposed to.

[A]

Be a massive storm raining during the game. Check that.

[B]

I think it's gonna be awful. Tomorrow, I think it's gonna rain.

[A]

It was gonna be perfect.

[D]

Sunny during the day, raining at night.

[A]

I have no clue. I just made it up. Yeah, you just made the weather.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Depends on what app you look at.

[A]

Just make the weather up. Ryan Lemon, we'll be right back.