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Ryan Lemond
That's what it kind of hit home with me. You tweeted out that picture of you by yourself in a restaurant with a lot of empty seats.
Matt Jones
I thought, oh, but did I look sad?
Ryan Lemond
Well, I couldn't see your face.
Matt Jones
Well, it's because there was a big smile on the other side of it.
Ryan Lemond
Enjoying myself on mapping out my strategy. But, you know, there's a couple.
Matt Jones
Well, there's going to be some things thrown.
Drew Franklin
You.
Matt Jones
You. You can have all the strategy you want, but this is a game by game. This is day by day decision. So just so you know, you can have all your strategy. There are a couple games.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Doesn't change anything.
Ryan Lemond
Do I move it to lunch that day?
Matt Jones
No, you just. You eat and the game. Well, you can pick somewhere where the game's on, but you can't pick somewhere where, like, we'll pick. We got it right, Drew. We're gonna make this. We're gonna make this.
Ryan Lemond
Say we're gonna pick.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Sounded like a week.
Matt Jones
The ways me and Drew. Yeah. Drew and I are the committee. Drew and I are taking the lead on this.
Drew Franklin
It still blows my mind how this is so complicated. You're gonna get through it. I think you're actually gonna enjoy it.
Matt Jones
Normally when. When we do these things and we make Ryan do stuff, if you Read the text machine. There's like half the people are saying, you know, go for it. And then half the people are like, matt, why don't you and Drew ever do any challenges? You always make Ryan do this. You know, blah, blah, blah, blah. On this one, it's like 90 wrong with Ryan. Why does he not want. You get free food for a week. You get to eat. I'm gonna send you to play. I'm not gonna send you to dumps. I'm gonna send you a nice place. They're gonna get, they're gonna get advertising. So people don't understand this one, Drew, why this would be so hard. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
And I, I, I genuinely think he's gonna get there and say, I could have been doing this all along. Everybody needs a little me time every once in a while. Like you said yesterday, being lonely all the time, that's not helpful.
Matt Jones
It's different.
Drew Franklin
But every once in a while, you need to just take a deep breath and have a little quiet, Tom. Have a little meal.
Matt Jones
And I think you're gonna enjoy this. This is exciting.
Ryan Lemond
I talked to my brother last night. He travels a lot, so he has to eat a lot by himself. He was giving me some pointers, some advice I love.
Drew Franklin
You're getting coaching.
Matt Jones
What is the pointers?
Ryan Lemond
He said, get you a table right in front of a big screen tv. And he said you won't even notice the fact you're by yourself. If you're watching a game, Watch no.
Matt Jones
One, first of all. I mean, you're going to a restaurant. Not all of them have a big screen tv. Like, this is not your living.
Ryan Lemond
That's why I was going to pick. I didn't know you and Drew were gonna pick.
Matt Jones
We're gonna pick. Actually, you're kind of dressed up today.
Ryan Lemond
For you, we got that media basketball.
Matt Jones
Practice, so you decided to wear a shirt with sleeves.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, I couldn't wear, you know, slobby clothes.
Matt Jones
Slobby's not a word. Yeah, so. Well, you. You look good.
Ryan Lemond
Press conference.
Drew Franklin
You can ask a question. You gonna get back into reporter mode?
Matt Jones
Are you gonna ask a question? Scoop, scoop, lemon. Wlax18.
Ryan Lemond
I can't remember the last time I went to a press conference as a member of the media where I ask a question.
Drew Franklin
Did you even go to a Cowan?
Matt Jones
You've been to some NCAA tournament ones? Yeah. When's the last time you asked a question, tubby?
Ryan Lemond
So is Robbie going to get in the game tonight? Maybe.
Matt Jones
You don't think you asked? How? Any questions?
Ryan Lemond
No, I didn't Absolutely.
Matt Jones
All right. So he has to ask a question, right? Like. Like you. You need to ask a question today. You're a little rusty and you used.
Drew Franklin
To work with him. He'll appreciate it.
Matt Jones
It's. He'll. He likes you.
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Matt Jones
It'll been 17 years. So. Will you ask a question?
Ryan Lemond
I'll. I'll work on it.
Matt Jones
No, no, no, no. Will you ask a question? This great. This is a great chance. You can be the voice of the fans.
Ryan Lemond
Coach Pope, do you ever go out and eat by yourself? And you do. What do you do?
Matt Jones
Question either. We want. I want you to. I'll tell you what. Can we ask the fans if they. What question you.
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Matt Jones
Perfect. 772. 777. 4525. What? How you going to introduce yourself, Coach?
Ryan Lemond
Hey, Ryan lman. Remember we used to work together, hang out and drink beers together?
Matt Jones
No, no. I mean, stop the jokes. How you going to introduce yourself?
Ryan Lemond
I say, hey, Coach Rylam. Ksr.
Matt Jones
Okay, there you go.
Drew Franklin
Boom, boom.
Matt Jones
I like it.
Drew Franklin
When Cutler asked the question at the big press conference and Pope recognized him. From your 18 days.
Matt Jones
It's now his.
Drew Franklin
Like, his intro. I'm just saying it was like a big moment for him.
Matt Jones
He's gonna know it.
Ryan Lemond
He.
Matt Jones
Mark really likes him. Like, because you all legitimately did work together.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. When you interviewed Coach Pope in that. In that room over the craft center, we talked for a little bit. You know, talk about old times and kind of. But remember the first time you said.
Matt Jones
Ask a question, the first thing he.
Ryan Lemond
Said to me, because I'm just glad you have your. Your shirt on. It's like, that's what he knows me for. The idiot that takes you. Takes his shirt off.
Matt Jones
Well, I'm looking for today. Today will be fun watching you ask the question. Are they going to stream that press conference? People can watch Ryan in reporter mode.
Drew Franklin
I don't know if they've been streaming them this year. You know, there's apps and different things, so I don't know. They normally do stream them, but I don't know if they're doing it this year. It's kind of new.
Matt Jones
Well, all right. 859-280-2287. I right before the show got off the air with. I was on with Greg McElroy and Cole Kublick. I do that well before every time Kentucky plays Alabama or Auburn. They, of course, play Auburn Saturday, which is easy to forget because we haven't really talked about that game at all, even though it's arguably Kentucky's best chance at an SEC game all year is is is Saturday. I think it's a loser leaves town matchup. I think whoever loses this I think is fired. Maybe both fired anyway. But I think there's whoever loses this may not. I don't know. I mean they may not make it out of the next week. We'll see. Do you think we have a chance of winning the game?
Ryan Lemond
I actually thought we had a pretty good chance until this last weekend and Auburn changed quarterbacks and they won that game at Arkansas on the road came from behind to do it so makes me a little scared that maybe they have found their self a little bit.
Matt Jones
They are their offense, Cole said when I was on the air is not anything like Tennessee's. Basically it's a lot. It's short passes, runs. It's essentially he said the problems Kentucky had against Tennessee they won't have against Auburn. So it's kind of a game. They're not like a ground and pound. Like they're not like Texas. But it's probably a game that sets up for us a little bit better than Tennessee.
Drew Franklin
I mean as much as I want to beat the Falls with that matchup, Brad White just has no answer for Josh Hypo. We've seen it five years now. Kind of feel like never were going to be in that game. But Auburn, you can even though you're a ten and a half point underdog now what it is. Yeah.
Matt Jones
Well that's it. Now see that feels high. I thought Tennessee was way low. 10 and a half feels high to me.
Drew Franklin
I thought the Tennessee line was a huge overreaction to Texas but anyway they, they have a good running back. He's I think second in the conference but I mean they're not putting up a lot of points. The, the games they've lost have been close but they've all been pretty low scoring. So I think you can be in it. Especially with the way the offense just keeps taking a step forward each game.
Matt Jones
I think you could make an argument the Tennessee line was the worst line of the year.
Drew Franklin
Year. I was shocked when I opened DraftKings on Sunday and saw that it wasn't like 14.
Ryan Lemond
We all said we don't bet on Kentucky, but I bet Tennessee just like everybody else did too.
Matt Jones
You both did that?
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Drew Franklin
Too easy.
Matt Jones
Ryan, how much did you bet?
Ryan Lemond
I bet a whole $5 on Tennessee. I think I won like $9.
Matt Jones
Well that's a big bet for you. It is usually like a 50 cent putt.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, $1, $2 bets I saw Nick Rouse dubbed this the Hot Seat bowl. Like you said. Loser. Loser leaves town.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Loser Leaves Town's a better name.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Than the Hot Seat Bowl. I think we can win. I was. Yesterday I was out and I was asked by someone, Matt, what percentage of the fan base do you think wants a change to be made? And it's a good question. What percentage of the. Well, let's. I mean, we've got some folks here. I promise I won't take your picture. How many of you raise your hand would like to see a change made? So you two would not. You two would like to see Stoops be the coach here next year? Give him another chance. Okay, so that would mean if you were to just use this place, it would probably be, you know, 80% of the fan base. Now, these are two very sweet ladies. We've seen them over the years that they. They might be a little nicer than the average UK fan.
Drew Franklin
I don't think they had the brown bag over their head, ma'.
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Matt Jones
You didn't have a brown bag over your head. Okay.
Ryan Lemond
But you know what? You could almost make an argument that they're Mitch Barnhart. Mitch Barnard's the sweet old lady sitting in the corner.
Matt Jones
You're saying Mitch Barnhart's a sweet old lady?
Ryan Lemond
I think he might be.
Matt Jones
First of all, how you gonna look at these women and columns?
Ryan Lemond
Old grandma.
Caller
Go in the wrong direction.
Matt Jones
Yeah. That's. Why not just say these sweet ladies. Right.
Drew Franklin
We don't know that they're grandmas.
Matt Jones
Yes. We don't know their grandmas do. You just find a way, don't you? But you think this is Mitch Barnes parts constituents.
Ryan Lemond
I think Mitch Barnhart. I don't know this. I'm just saying I think he's the type of guy that is going to give Mark Stoops every single possible chance to pull this out.
Matt Jones
All right, so. So. So this. This room is 80%. What do you think the fan base as a whole is, Drew.
Drew Franklin
I was gonna say, I don't know a person that wants him back until these two beautiful women here. So I. I would have gone a lot higher probably in the 90%.
Matt Jones
Is there any chance, though? Our view is skewed by the online. Absolute fan base is much more. Just in general, is much more negative than. Than the regular fan.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I completely acknowledge that. Especially I'm on KS board. You know, message boards just naturally kind of lean that way. I'm on that all day. So, yeah, most of the people I'm interacting with are among the most unhappy right now.
Matt Jones
But you'd still say not, you know.
Ryan Lemond
The, the postgame show after Tennessee game, the fans that called in weren't really mad or angry. They sounded broken.
Matt Jones
But I listened to half that. None of those people probably would have voted to bring him back.
Ryan Lemond
Agreed.
Matt Jones
So, like they weren't angry, but they were still like they're.
Ryan Lemond
They're broken. And I think a change that's almost worse. Yeah, we get that point where we need. We just don't have another choice on that.
Drew Franklin
I noticed I even wrote a little bit this on the website Saturday night after the Texas game. I was in the parking lot when people were leaving and they're just mad, yelling, bleep this. Get him out of here. Tennessee game. Everybody was leaving early, just silent, I think down, whatever. Let's go home.
Matt Jones
Well, so Cole asked me, what's the moment that broke it for the fan base? And it's an interesting question. What is the moment that just made most fans go, time to move on. Is there a game? Is there? What I said to him was I thought it was. It slowly started happening last year during the season. And then Vince was a big one and then I thought Texas was the final straw. Do you agree with that?
Drew Franklin
Yeah. And how you lost Texas, I mean, Mitch Bart, Mitch Barnhart said on Wednesday of that week, sometimes you work hard, you're a yard short. He said that before the Texas game.
Matt Jones
Like he saw it. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. And I think also the Texas game, a lot of people went in and think we're going to get killed. They convinced themselves we could win only to get hurt one last time when they weren't going to let themselves get hurt again.
Matt Jones
And I also don't think you can overlook the conglomeration of factors of Indiana, Vanderbilt, good, Louisville rising. Liam Cohen's coaching with the Jaguars. We got all these dudes. I mean, I saw Carrington Valentine was making big plays the other night for the Packers. Like, we got all these guys succeeding. You're like, why? Why haven't we won more? What about you? What do you think was the moment?
Ryan Lemond
I'm kind of with you, you know, since the season, that last game against Louisville, they just got embarrassed and they kind of.
Matt Jones
That's a big one, too. I think getting embarrassed by Louisville and people quitting, I think that's a big one.
Ryan Lemond
And then immediately, you know, Dane left, Barion left, he gave Wolford another contract. Vince left. But man, when they're first and go from the three with a chance to beat Texas and you can't Punch it in from there. That was when I think it was over for me.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. And I don't mean to beat the dead PR horse, but a lot of people that were on the fence, just your quiet spring and summer did not help keep anybody on board.
Matt Jones
I agree. I mean I like it's almost like.
Drew Franklin
Well, if you're not interested in your.
Matt Jones
Own, I think whatever decision you could make in the last year and a half, they've made the wrong one. All right. So I mean I'm, you know, sometimes you just like there was an old skit on Saturday Night Live bad, Bad idea Jeans. Like you put them on and every single decision you make is bad. I think they the football programs had bad Idea jeans on for the last.
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Ryan Lemond
I haven't seen that skip. That's kind of funny.
Matt Jones
It is. I look it up. It's called Bad Idea Jeans. All right, so this, this restaurant is 80% go.
Ryan Lemond
What do you think it's going to be on your.
Matt Jones
Well, let's do the text machine. I'm going to give you all you just. So here's the thing. I don't want to write fire or not fire. So. Right. Yes, change needs to be made. No, it doesn't.
Ryan Lemond
Okay.
Matt Jones
Just yes or no and let's do a text message. This will be more positive than like message boards. Twitters. Twitter. Twitters are. But what is it? Yes. No, let's, let's do that and we'll see what it is. What do you think it's going to be?
Ryan Lemond
I think it's going to be up there. 80, 90%.
Matt Jones
Yeah. We'll find out. We'll take a break. 859-280-2287. We're going to talk about a lot of the Brian Kelly situation affects us but it's also crazy as the stories come out about what really happened. By the way, that's going to happen here too. If it happened. The what happened. What really happened. Those are coming. We'll take a break if you're right back. KSR.
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Ryan Lemond
They're awesome.
Matt Jones
The problem is when I order them during the pregame show, Ryan sneaks and eats half of them. When I'm not. Look, he literally waits till I turn my head and then grabs one and I'll look and he'll be like a little child with a big piece of food in his mouth.
Ryan Lemond
Drew sees me, you get up, do your manager stuff, and I come sneak over there and eat a couple.
Drew Franklin
It's the Ryan tax.
Matt Jones
It's a. It's a Ryan tax. Okay, first of all, I thought it would be a lot of yeses. I did not think it would be this much.
Ryan Lemond
As you scroll, look at this. Nothing but yes.
Matt Jones
Look at this. Find me a no.
Ryan Lemond
Wow. I mean, that's.
Matt Jones
I mean, find me a no. Like, you two might be the only two in the entire fan, but no, there's one. Okay, There's a no.
Drew Franklin
She said she's a season ticket holder since 75, so she's seen some bad football.
Matt Jones
And literally this would be. And this is not an exaggeration. I know we do these polls and like, I try to. There probably has never been a question I've asked that's had more universal yes. It's got to be 98%. There's no. I mean, I'm sitting here looking at hundreds of yeses.
Ryan Lemond
I think that's a fair indication of where our fan base is right now, though.
Matt Jones
Yeah. But even I didn't realize if you. Was this.
Drew Franklin
What do you think Mitch's email.
Matt Jones
See, like, okay. I mean, again, like, look at. I mean, this is crazy. I. I almost wanna. Almost want to get Mario just to film this. I mean, I've never seen anything like that. I've never asked anything on this show and seen a universal answer. There's all right, there's a no. But I'm seeing, like dozens of yeses before I come to a no. Like, Mitch cannot bring him back. You can't. Like, there's. This is. There's no question you can ask humanity and get this many yeses. Right.
Drew Franklin
I was serious when I said, I don't know question.
Matt Jones
You could ask the general public where you could get 98%? Yes. I mean, there's not a qu. I can't think about a poll. What is a poll you could take in America that would get 98%? Yes.
Ryan Lemond
Do you need air to breathe?
Matt Jones
No. There are 3% of Americans that would say no. They did their own research.
Drew Franklin
I think that could go all day and it wouldn't change.
Ryan Lemond
I think that you're gonna get yeses. Yes, all day long if people listen to the podcast.
Matt Jones
When I did this with Cal, just to give an example, when I did this with Cal after the Oakland game but before he left for Arkansas, it was probably 75, 80%. Yes. But there was a definite even listeners of this show. There was a definite 20 to 25% CAL group. And in the fan base as a whole, there might have even been more because some of his strong supporters didn't like me because I was doing so. But it was this. I mean, this is the. I'm really shocked. I thought it was going to be 85, 98. I would have never played.
Drew Franklin
I always say football is harder because there's not an obvious upset. Like you don't get a tournament situation. You kind of have to form your own opinion on your record.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
But when you've lost 11 straight at home against teams that matter, that's about as close as you get to one of those upsets you shouldn't have.
Matt Jones
I don't think the national, the national media realizes this. Right. Like, I don't think they get it. Like when I said on McElroy and Cole's show, I said, yeah, he's probably not going to be the coach McElroy was like, really? Is that. I mean, like, I don't think they get it. I don't think the rest of the country realizes we feel like this.
Ryan Lemond
Like I said, it's. The apathy has been growing for a couple of years and it is just at its all time high right now. Is there anything at all that you would change your mind this weekend other than a win?
Matt Jones
See, here's what I think. Sad. I think they could win and go to a bowl and this number would.
Ryan Lemond
Still be the same.
Matt Jones
I don't think it would be 100, I don't think it'd be 97, but it would still be high. So that's a problem. I want to note something here because this is, I think it's kind of cool. First of all, your birthday today, right?
Ryan Lemond
Ms. Jennifer.
Matt Jones
Jennifer's birthday. All right. How old are you? 49. Happy birthday. Second. So we have a. One of my friends here works next door. He's. But he's helped us for a long time. He works at the kilt next door. He had said, you know, his parents birthday and he. Their Cubs fans, whatever. So I gave him tickets to Reds and Cups. He said he had a present for me to thank me. This is like an actual amazingly thoughtful present. I thought he. Who knew? I don't know what I thought he get me, but he got me a bag of stuff that is survival gear. He said he heard that I didn't know how, that I didn't know how to do anything fair. Which, by the way, is correct. And it has like a flashlight.
Ryan Lemond
Okay.
Matt Jones
It has like a. A radio. Right. It has a survival bag. It has a book called Survival Handbook. It even has this thing which he said is like a filter system. So if I need water, I could drink out of a lake and it would filter. Wow.
Drew Franklin
Wow.
Ryan Lemond
So when the apocalypse comes, you are ready.
Matt Jones
So I think because of CB I could survive in something nice. I mean, I'd have to learn how to use all this stuff. But I have a book now that's very thoughtful of CB it's actually extremely thoughtful. And an atlas. Oh, wow.
Ryan Lemond
He knows how to get to your heart.
Matt Jones
You know how much I love atlas.
Drew Franklin
Yes. And they still make them. It says 2026.
Matt Jones
So Mario, you've never been on atlas trip with me. As we travel the country in our southern southeastern part of the United States, I have an atlas to help us get around.
Ryan Lemond
I'll never forget. I think we were in like New Mexico somewhere and we didn't have good cell signal.
Matt Jones
And what were we able to do?
Ryan Lemond
You got your atlas out of the back of the car, opened it up and got us out of where we were going.
Matt Jones
I. I love atlases because here's the thing about atlases. Don't let all these people poo poo atlases. It gives you a big perspective of where things are. See, on your phone you can only see like. And you got a scan out and scanning. And on this I get. I can kind of look and go, oh, we could go this way or we could go this way. Drew. It gives you a lot bigger picture as to what's happening.
Drew Franklin
Does the new one have traffic updates to 2020?
Matt Jones
It doesn't have traffic updates. But you know what? Traffic is up in survival mode. We're just trying to survive.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Traffic's subjective and we can pull over and drink out of the way. Look, it's a water filter straw. Apparently if you drink out of this.
Ryan Lemond
It filters out all the stuff of.
Matt Jones
I'm gonna have to read. But as I understand it, you, I can just go to the, to the lake with a straw, start drinking, and all the bad stuff is gone.
Drew Franklin
You're all set. Part of me does wonder, does CB know that something's coming?
Matt Jones
Well, he said listen to a lot of those podcasts. So I'm sure that's, you know, that might be part of it. Brian Kelly gets fired at lsu and now the last week has just been a not like stories trashing him. One player said he's the least likable person anyone has ever met. There's a story that came out that he knew he wasn't getting along well with the fans, so he went to an image consultant in D.C. to work on his image. Let me just say if you're having trouble relating to people in Louisiana, don't go to D.C. go to somebody in Louisiana. There are all these. Kai it turns out when Kyron Lacy died, he didn't even reach out to the family, which is probably a mistake. Like just all of this stuff with Brian Kelly and now a lot of LSU fans, they want John Sumrall. So now we have two big fan bases, Auburn and lsu, that kind of want some raw. Hard to see him turning both those down to come here.
Drew Franklin
He's the betting favorite, if you follow that, to have that job. But Kelly, that was just insane. They were, he was berating his coaches in the last game knowing he was on camera. So it kind of intentionally puts it on them, gives them a little bit of an out.
Matt Jones
And they apparently the athletic director said, hey, we want you to make a change to play calling. He just went, no. And so then he got fired. Seems like not a fun remember he had some stuff. It wasn't like he was innocent there. We'll take a break. Be right back. KSR. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Got big news. We're back to plastic straws here.
Ryan Lemond
Breaking news.
Matt Jones
Yes, sorry to the turtles. I, I love you in theory. But we're back to the plastic straws because the we got rid of the paper. The Texas game took them out and now we have plastic ones.
Drew Franklin
I love turtles too. I wish them the best. But this is America and we drink from plastic.
Matt Jones
We drink. We do do that. One person writes, matt, I love you. But even with that survival kit, you'll still be one of the first ones to die in apocalypse. That's not very nice.
Ryan Lemond
We. We help. We hold out small hope for you to survive.
Matt Jones
You don't need to one person says. Matt. It's too bad survival kids could be buried under pickles and keys to the cities never to be seen again.
Ryan Lemond
Now that's true.
Matt Jones
I'm getting a new car in the next few weeks, I think. Oh, are you? The car that I have with all that stuff, I might just leave it somewhere just so I don't have to. To deal with it. You know how many miles that car has?
Drew Franklin
Goodness.
Matt Jones
Do you like, Seriously? I. I think this is pretty amazing. Over 200, 000, 238000 miles are on that leg.
Ryan Lemond
On that leg for how many years?
Drew Franklin
Two oil changes.
Matt Jones
I've increased the oil changes a little.
Drew Franklin
Bit and that's the two.
Matt Jones
Yeah, we're up to. We're up to four. I don't know. I'm not sure. I don't know. It's been a lot of years. But I mean you got to give the Lexus Credit. To go 238,000 miles. Not with elite caretaking, I can, I will acknowledge, is a pretty impressive feat.
Drew Franklin
I think you should park it right next to the. The Oldsmobile in the backyard and let it be a music video in 30 years about that.
Matt Jones
That that car is in immaculate shape.
Drew Franklin
But just start the. Start the museum. What were you saying?
Ryan Lemond
I remember you got that car when your previous car broke down on the mountain parkway going to that show in Battyville.
Matt Jones
Yeah, that was the Cadillac. It didn't last as well. The Lexus held up a lot better.
Ryan Lemond
Than it's been a long time.
Matt Jones
859-280-2287 who's up first?
Ryan Lemond
Got Richard up first.
Matt Jones
Richard, go ahead. Richard.
Caller
Only concerned Matt with getting rid of Stoops is I'm afraid we'll lose all these sophomores. That seems to be the backbone of this team.
Matt Jones
You could. You could, Richard. But I would say. I would say yes. Are there going to be people on the team that you would lose if he leaves? Certainly. However, they're going to be people that you'll lose even if he stays. And in the transfer portal era, replacing players is easier than it's ever been, you know, if somebody leaves.
Caller
And my other thing is, I'm looking so forward to this basketball team. The last time we had this kind of muscle on teams was and size and guard play was 1995. I mean 1975 and 1996. You see what happened with Those teams.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I mean, let's slow down. Okay, let's. Let's slow down saying. I mean, I think you could say this is the deepest team. I do think and I appreciate the call. As good as I think this team's going to be this year and we do have a lot of guys. The difference between this team and even like 2015, 2012, 2010, go 96, whatever is I don't know that we have until we see what quaintance is. I don't know that we have like elite star power. I think we have a lot of great college players. I think this could be a team that slot that is a version of say drew of the 2003 team where Kentucky went eight or nine deep with a lot of really good players, but maybe no star. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, Keith Bogans was what, second team All American. Maybe that's oa, you know, something like that. But there wasn't. I. But I don't want to say this is 96. I mean, we produced top pros in 96. 2015 is going to have at least two hall of Famers on that team. So that's a little different.
Drew Franklin
I mean, Josh Hopkins asks on Monday, will anyone start in the NBA? Quaintance will leave aside because he could be be that. But otherwise I don't think anybody would when at least 96 had several guys that had long NBA careers with a couple starters.
Matt Jones
Now, don't get me. This is a Final Four level team. I mean, there are lots of people that are now putting this team as a Final four team. I'm one of them. They're good enough to go to the Final Four. But I also want everybody to slow down about the talent. You know, even though it made people mad all year last year I said all year there's no NBA players on this team. And right now there's no NBA Kobe. Bray, he might be on the Suns roster, but he's not playing and all the other guys are not in the NBA. Like that's. We just need to know that. Now this team, I think has NBA dudes, but I don't want to sit here and say this is like the 25th, 20, you know, 96 team. It's not that yet.
Ryan Lemond
Ryan, you've talked about your theory and I think you get you. And J Bill has said you got to have three stars to win it.
Matt Jones
I think they have two. I think this. My view is Jalen Lowe and Otega away are stars, not NBA stars, but they're college Stars Quaintance gets here. He could be the third. If he doesn't, then I just want to see one of these other guys become the third. Ryan. The good thing is I think we have a lot of options for who that third guy could be.
Ryan Lemond
Who's the most likely candidate to step up?
Matt Jones
Okay, let's say Quaint's didn't play. Who would be the most likely? Can you're going to say Colin Chandler.
Drew Franklin
I won't say Colin Chandler. Just to not be repetitive over here.
Matt Jones
I still think there's a world where.
Drew Franklin
We have a yellow bitch breakout.
Matt Jones
Oh, you think it could be yellow?
Drew Franklin
Yep.
Matt Jones
Interesting. Now, you would not have been one of my top choices, but. Okay. What about you?
Ryan Lemond
I. I fell in love with Denzel Aberdeen. He's a dog, man. He's just gonna be our lockdown defender guy. And I think he could be maybe that. That third one emerging.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I don't know that. I think Quaint has got to be the third one, but I think you have a lot of like, fourth ones. You know, like a diabate could be a fourth one.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Depending what Jasper turns into.
Matt Jones
He could be. Well, see, now Jasper could be the third one. He's got that talent.
Drew Franklin
We only have a very small sample size, but it was a fun sample last Friday.
Matt Jones
But to me, when you're sitting there and going, okay, Cam Williams, you're the 11th man, and he's on and he's on NBA draft boards, then I'm not. I just think it's a different kind of thing. It reminds me of 03 in the sense, you know, think about, oh, three. Eric Daniels, Gerald Fitch, Chuck Hayes. I know Chuck played in the NBA, but he was kind of a role player for many years. Cliff Hawkins, those. That's the kind of guys I feel like we're loaded up on this year. Do you agree?
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, very. Just strong, smart basketball players that can go out and win you a lot of college games.
Matt Jones
Marquise Estelle was one of those. Yeah, that's that. That's how that's. This team played so together against one game. I'm trying. I'm trying to remind myself, but we're going to play tomorrow night. We play tomorrow night? Yeah, I mean, we're playing tomorrow night against Georgetown. We're playing a good team tomorrow night.
Ryan Lemond
You know, and we didn't even shoot the ball very well from three. What were they? Nine of 29, I think.
Matt Jones
Another thing, man. What if we start shooting the ball?
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Like, what if that 9 of 29 was 12 or 13? Of 29, which is like the percentage Pope wants to shoot. You add 12 points, we win that game by 23. I mean, you know, then you're, then you're starting to go, how many do.
Drew Franklin
I was how many doing all night Friday? We keep naming it individual players, but I was most impressed of just how advanced they were as a team on October, whatever that was. Purdue's very experienced. Have two of the best players in the country. One's a consensus all American, one might even be on some preseason lists. And the way they were guarding them, that you just don't see that or we haven't in Lexington in a long time. To be that far along in your system, both offense and defense rotating in and out pieces in mid October.
Matt Jones
And I've watched a lot of these other teams play their preseason games. I watched Duke, Tennessee, I watched Louisville, Kansas, watched a little bit of Arkansas, Memphis. These other teams look a lot more disjointed than we do. I mean these other teams don't look, I'm not saying they don't look good. Like Duke, like Cameron Boozer looks like a star.
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Matt Jones
You know, Darren Peterson looks like a star. Actually Arkansas looked pretty good, but they didn't look like we did. Like, we look better than all of them. Now I know it's one game, I get it. But I'm not saying, I'm just saying. Who's up next? Super Dave is up next. Super Dave, how are you?
Caller
Hey guys. Hope you are doing well today.
Matt Jones
Doing good.
Caller
I got a couple things. That's great. I got a couple things about football. The guy, the guy Stoops over there on the sideline. If you watch him now, he, that guy, that's that ref that's over there with him. I would demand double pay because that. He is wearing the referee.
Matt Jones
Dude, nobody, I mean, I mean Stoop stays on the referee. Now part of that is they only show him stoops during the game when he's yelling at the referee. But he does give the referee an earful.
Caller
Yeah. And I mean it's just, I mean I think he, he's more on the referee than he is into the game sometimes. And I mean, I'm not saying all the time, but I mean I was, I was basically checked out last year. You know, I, I'm not a season ticket holder or anything but I went to watch and play South Carolina because I had that opportunity. I was real excited about it and I mean they just laid an egg and I mean.
Matt Jones
Yeah, they did.
Caller
This happened too much and, and it's just, it's just to a point where, I mean, I also heard that if he, if he lasts through the year, his buyout is only 17 million. Is it?
Matt Jones
Yeah. That's not true. No, it goes down. I appreciate the call. His, his buyout does go down, I want to say from 38 maybe to 29 or something, but it's not until. What's, what's the date? I need to look, but it doesn't, it doesn't change the overall math a whole lot. Maybe it's 38 to 31, I can't remember. But it's not 17.
Drew Franklin
And I think we're at this point where numbers don't matter. You just can't. If he doesn't turn it on and I still know he can have any impressive wins at this point, it's, it's, it just needs to end.
Matt Jones
I mean, if you're getting. I mean, I. From now on, I'll remember looking at that text machine because that, that, that's, that is. I don't mean to just keep harping on it, but that was a amazing amount of votes.
Ryan Lemond
Overwhelming.
Matt Jones
Overwhelming. For one thing. By the way, UK has put on sale, Ryan, for big spenders like you.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
There are a handful of games this year where you can buy seats with your feet on the floor. The first four rows are for sale for a handful of games. They just went on sale this morning.
Ryan Lemond
I think you'd want that this year. You want to be a part of what is excitement that's building for this basketball team.
Matt Jones
But I mean, you want to spend that kind of money.
Ryan Lemond
Well, you know, I don't think my $25 I got my wallet right now is going to cover that.
Matt Jones
But you won the bet the other day, so you could use that.
Ryan Lemond
True. I did win $9 on DraftKings. Thank you, DraftKings.
Matt Jones
I wonder what that costs. What do you think it costs to. I don't know, first four rows, but they're doing it for a handful. Normally you can't even buy those. So, like, it is kind of for people who could afford it. A cool thing.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
How much you think it is?
Drew Franklin
Guess it's not reselling. It's coming straight from uk so they can't rob you too much. But it'll still be hot. I'll say 1500.
Ryan Lemond
That's exactly what I was going to say.
Matt Jones
Exactly 1500.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
That's higher than I would have thought.
Ryan Lemond
Sit down there by the hammer.
Drew Franklin
I'm just thinking it's something like you said. You've never even been able to have access to buy.
Matt Jones
No, they normally don't sell them. I don't know how they're doing it this year, but I guess they are. I guess when you gotta raise money, you do it. Stop overpaying for Sunglasses if you're tired of buying expensive sunglasses only to lose or break them, go to Shady Rays Independent American owned company with premium polarized shades for every activity from their tangle free aviators that won't get stuck in your hair to their color rush lenses. It's Shady Rays best protection program in the industry with lost and broken replacements. Go check out a kentucky company@shadyrays.com we'll take a break. It is Wednesday here at KS Bar and Grills, Kentucky Sports Radio.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Text machine 772-774-5254. We're opening here in 10 minutes. Come on out and join us. We've got. Let's talk for a second about Georgetown that we play tomorrow.
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Matt Jones
You know, UK has not. Have we played Georgetown since 84? Is that the last time we played them?
Drew Franklin
I was actually going to work on my Georgetown history post today, but I can pull up the all time series.
Ryan Lemond
Can't remember a recent game since I've been around.
Matt Jones
A very painful game for people a little bit older than me. I don't really remember it, but 84. We played him in the final four in Seattle. What did we shoot in the second half? It was like some crazy low number.
Ryan Lemond
3 of 29 or something. I think.
Drew Franklin
3 of 33.
Matt Jones
3 of 33. And we ended up losing in Seattle, I believe.
Ryan Lemond
Is that right? Yeah, I remember watching that game as a kid and just it became such a story. Like they had these wide open shots and the ball just would not go in the basketball.
Matt Jones
It was against Patrick Ewing and all those guys, right?
Ryan Lemond
James Blackman I know was on that Kentucky team and he had. Because he was from Indiana. I was watching him. He just could. They just couldn't score, man.
Drew Franklin
Kenny Walker, Sam Bowie had 10 points. That was the leading score. It's not strong in a Tournament game.
Matt Jones
But I don't think we've played them since then.
Drew Franklin
We've played them twice that game, and in 1922, we lost 28, 23. So we've never beaten Georgetown ever.
Matt Jones
Oh, and never beaten Georgetown.
Drew Franklin
I mean, Basil Hayden scored. Scored eight in that game.
Matt Jones
Basil Hayden. Yep. Like the bourbon.
Drew Franklin
Yep. He had eight points.
Ryan Lemond
He was Kentucky's first All American.
Drew Franklin
But Johnny Flavin, man, he was on fire for Georgetown. 12, 28, 23.
Matt Jones
It's hard to stop Johnny Flavin at.
Drew Franklin
Ryan Gymnasium, wherever that is.
Matt Jones
All right, so what would you say five most famous Georgetown players? Ewing, Morning Iverson, Othella Harrington.
Ryan Lemond
Oh, Goodwin.
Matt Jones
And Fred Brown.
Ryan Lemond
Reggie Lewis.
Drew Franklin
Who's the guy Reggie Lewis played there?
Matt Jones
No, he was Providence.
Ryan Lemond
He was Providence.
Matt Jones
I think so now. Fred Brown was the guy that threw the ball to the. To the North Carolina player. Where they lost ends up crying in John Thompson's.
Drew Franklin
They just had a high draft pick, like in the last 10 years.
Matt Jones
Have they? Yeah. I was going to say Otto Porter, jr. Otto Porter. Okay. But I mean, not too many schools have Ewing, Morning Iverson. That's a pretty big. That's a pretty good group. They're culture. Mutumbo, of course. How did I forget? Mutumbo. Yeah, that's. I mean, that's. That's a big Mount Rushmore.
Ryan Lemond
It is.
Matt Jones
Those four would be a heck of a Mount Rushmore.
Drew Franklin
And for the longest time, they were kind of the cool school. Iverson helped with that. They wore the long shorts.
Matt Jones
I mean, they're. I mean, they were.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, they're like a villain team, but they had a little bit of swag.
Matt Jones
You get old UK fans, some of whom probably passed and you were to say, who do you hate? Like Georgetown, John Thompson. They just, they could. With his towel. People just did not. Did not like them. But I was a big John Thompson fan. I. I like John Thompson. They have not been good in a long, long time.
Drew Franklin
They're missing all their seven footers and Keep going. Roy Hibbert. They're just full of centers.
Matt Jones
So their coach now is Ed Cooley. He. They spent a lot of money to bring him from Providence. He hasn't had a lot of success. What are you looking for tomorrow, Ryan? I mean, I. Mark Pope says we're playing to win, but we also want to get some stuff ready for the season. Season starts next week. Yeah, like, for real. I don't know if. I mean, I. I don't think I process that. The season starts next week.
Drew Franklin
We're now less than a Week away. Because it's Tuesday, right?
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, Tuesday.
Matt Jones
Tuesday.
Ryan Lemond
I just want to see him in this piggyback. What we saw against Purdue, probably shoot mad. I'd like to see him maybe shoot the ball a little bit. If there's something I'd want to.
Matt Jones
Is there anybody you'd like to see play? Play a little better? I'd like to see. I'd like to see a little more from Cam Williams. That's probably my thing that I'd like to see a little more. Because really, in everything I've seen, he hasn't been. He wasn't great at the pro day, wasn't great in the blue white. Wasn't great. I want to see him do what I think I hope he can do.
Drew Franklin
I agree. He's the one I've wondered about since he. Since the summer when you're here in practice, his name didn't come up much. A lot of potential. And then I think even asked who I'm watching the blue white game. He was my answer. It's just so far, been a very quiet first debut few weeks for him, but we know he has it. We just need him to turn it.
Ryan Lemond
On, I think, in the front court. I'd like to see Brandon Garrison play better, you know, Malachi kind of. Really?
Matt Jones
Yeah. I mean, Brandon Garrison's been interesting because he's another one that really. We haven't talked a lot about whether it was pro day or is. Brandon Garrison's kind of been really quiet, but he's still starting, so I want. I want to see him, too, as well.
Drew Franklin
He had a moment against Purdue. I was sitting then the end zone, facing him. I could see his eyes, and he was dialing up BG time. I don't know if y' all remember, he brought it up the court. He almost took a three in transition, but you could just tell he wanted. He wanted to call his own number.
Matt Jones
I don't know if other people are like this. Every time he brings it up to court, I'm like, give it up, give.
Ryan Lemond
It up, give it up, give it up.
Matt Jones
Fast, fast, fast, fast. But I could see it.
Drew Franklin
He thought. He thought he was on the N1 tour.
Matt Jones
I really am. I'm. I'm very much asking him to pass.
Ryan Lemond
What about you? You got a guy you're gonna.
Matt Jones
Well, for me, it's Ken Williams. But I also, you know, I just. I have to tell you, I just enjoy watching them, period. I just think they're fun to watch, they're exciting, you know, I'm excited to be here for the basketball pregame show. I wasn't here for Purdue, so I'm excited to be around fans in a basketball environment. This is gonna be a fun year. I this is going to be fun. Like this is going to be the most fun basketball years. You know, the Dillingham Reed had moments of fun, but there was a lot of like, why are we losing these games? But then besides that, we really haven't had a lot of fun, like just pure fun since before, I mean, since before COVID last year was fun, but you knew there was a ceiling, right?
Drew Franklin
And you got to SEC and start taking some, some losses.
Matt Jones
This is going to be fun this year. This is going to be fun, exciting every game, people. I think it's going to build all year. I think it's going to build and all year. People can get more and more excited as the year goes on. And I'm already thinking about the SEC tournament like it's going to be, this is going to be a blast. So I just want to enjoy it while it's going on because I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be a great year. I think it's going to be a big few months, by the way, just for Kentucky fans because we have a coaching search. You know, people get into that decim December is going to be one of the more exciting Decembers. If you look at who we play and what's going to be going on with football, this is going to be an exciting December. Coming up.
Drew Franklin
We're less than two weeks from the Louisville game.
Matt Jones
That's crazy.
Ryan Lemond
Wow.
Drew Franklin
I don't love it in that spot, but it's here.
Matt Jones
Two weeks, 13 days away. We'll take a break, come back hour number two. Kentucky Sports Radio.
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Date: October 29, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones, Ryan Lemond, Drew Franklin
Location: KS Bar & Grill, Lexington, KY
On a rainy Wednesday in Lexington, Matt Jones and the KSR crew gather for their daily installment of Kentucky Sports Radio. This episode focuses on the state of UK football—particularly growing fan frustration with coach Mark Stoops—and builds excitement for the upcoming UK basketball season under Mark Pope. The crew also discusses restaurant solo dining challenges, memorable interactions with fans, football coaching hot seats in the SEC, and UK basketball nostalgia. Listeners contribute live reactions, and the hosts debate the program’s future direction, delivering their blend of insight, humor, and Kentucky-centric banter.
This episode offered a pulse check on Kentucky football’s hot-seat turmoil, a healthy dose of basketball anticipation, and the usual blend of KSR humor and camaraderie. Internal polls show a nearly unanimous appetite for change in football, while fans (and hosts) gear up for a potentially thrilling basketball campaign. If you’re looking for insight, laughs, and the real-time voice of the UK faithful, this hour is quintessential KSR.