2025-10-31- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – Hour 2

Date: October 31, 2025
Host: Matt Jones
Co-Hosts: Ryan Lemond, Shannon Dawson, Drew Franklin
Location: Live from Whiskey Thief, just outside Frankfurt, KY

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Episode Overview

This episode of KSR, broadcasting from the lively atmosphere at Whiskey Thief, focuses on sports news, cultural debates, listener calls, and a touch of bourbon-soaked Halloween fun. With UK football confronting challenges, Matt Jones pivots the crew toward college sports drama elsewhere (namely LSU), a heated debate on grade inflation, Kentucky volleyball's big weekend, and some lighthearted banter about podcasts, fan attire, and more.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. LSU Football Chaos and Politician Interference

• Matt Jones recaps the ongoing turmoil at LSU: the Governor's involvement in firing the Athletic Director, resistance from head women's basketball coach Kim Mulkey, and grandstanding on coach contracts.
• Main Points:
  • The risks of political interference in athletics.
  • The impracticality of performance-only sports contracts.
  • Coaching talent unlikely to accept extreme pay-for-result contracts.
  • ADs and coaches want stability and clear lines of authority.
• Notable Exchange:
  • Matt Jones (03:41):
    “Who is going to agree [to a contract that only pays on winning]? ...Would you work somewhere that only said you get it if you produce X much and the person next to you gets it either way? ...Nobody’s going to do that.”
  • Shannon Dawson (05:32):
    “We’d have pitchforks in his front yard if that happened.”

2. Grade Inflation at Harvard and the Meaning of Grades

• Matt shares stats on Harvard’s grade inflation (62% of grades were As in 2025 versus 15% in 1996).
• The crew debates the value and meaning of grades in higher education and whether everyone should get an A.
• Insightful Comments:
  • Ryan is indifferent to grade inflation, seeing grades as less relevant to life outcomes.
  • Matt argues for meaningful grades as essential for identifying excellence and maintaining standards, especially for fields like medicine.
  • Shannon links rising grades to AI use and pressure on colleges to please students.
  • Matt Jones (12:43):
    “Don’t you want to know who the best students are?...Why do you want everyone to...grade equally? ...Don’t you want to know who's the best?”
  • They also touch on elitism (“Harvard vs. Poop State”) and the significance of rigorous grading in professional schools.

3. Listener Calls: Sports Parenting & Wearing Team Colors

• Donnie from Alabama calls to ask if he should wear UK gear to his daughter’s Auburn band event.
• Consensus: Wear an “Auburn Band Dad” shirt with a Kentucky or KSR hat—represent both family and fandom.
• Caller Exchange:
  • Matt Jones (15:25):
    “You should cheer for her...But when they're playing football...You should be rooting for Kentucky.”

4. UK Volleyball’s Big Weekend and Program Success

• Kentucky faces Texas in a huge SEC volleyball matchup (potentially for the SEC title).
• Discussion on UK’s rise as a volleyball powerhouse (9 straight SEC titles, national champs), and the growing popularity of women’s sports.
• Ticket prices spike ($225–$1,200+).
• Matt Jones (21:01):
  “Before Craig, Kentucky had won one volleyball title ever. And now they've won nine straight and a national championship. That's pretty amazing.”

5. KSR’s Podcast Success and Audience Reach

• KSR recognized among most influential sports podcasts, despite being “widely unknown” nationally, which becomes a running joke.
• Impressive audience numbers: over 1,000 listeners daily in 27 U.S. markets, including major cities like Indianapolis and Nashville.
• Host Reflections:
  • Matt Jones (27:32):
    “Jones is simply one of the most successful yet widely unknown hosts in this space.”
  • The team discusses their reach beyond Kentucky and the surprise at the show’s national footprint.

6. UK Football, Coaching Speculation, and SEC Landscape

• Touches on UK’s remaining football schedule, the expectation of getting to a bowl game, and fairness in evaluating Mark Stoops.
• Rumors swirl about coaching changes; John Sumrall’s stock and Lane Kiffin’s prospects at Ole Miss/Auburn are discussed, along with potential impacts for Kentucky.
• Matt Jones (23:49):
  “We can't sit here and make it to where there's nothing [Coach Stoops] can do that's worth praise.”

7. Basketball: Freshman Performances and Learning Curves

• Team reviews the recent UK basketball exhibition games. Comments on the performances of Zvonimir Ivišić ("Big Z"), Ilija Milijašević ("Yellow Bitch"), and freshmen Jasper Johnson and Malachi Marino, noting growth areas and the learning curve.
• Emphasis on the value of tough exhibition games for player development.

8. Fun and Games: KSR Parlay Picks & Show Antics

• The annual KSR parlay is laid out with SEC betting picks and light-hearted banter about superstitions (e.g., Ryan’s mustache).
• KSR crew also predicts the upcoming UK–Auburn football game.
• Parlay picks discussed: Mississippi State +4.5, Tennessee -2.5, Nebraska -4.5, Georgia -7
• Score and MVP predictions for UK v Auburn:
  • Drew: Auburn 30-28, MVP: Seth McGowan
  • Ryan: Auburn 24-13, MVP: Cutter Boley
  • Matt: Auburn 27-17, MVP: Kendrick Law
  • Shannon: UK 21-18, MVP: Shai's Pete (with a fumble return TD)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• LSU Drama and Political Interference:
  • “I just want you to think how ridiculous this sounds. What if Andy Beshear just fired Mitch Barnhart and said he was going to hire the football coach?” — Matt Jones ([05:19])
  • “I love when people clap. Yes, let’s do this. And then guess what happens. Go find somebody to agree to that.” — Matt Jones ([03:33])
• Grades & Education:
  • “If you give everybody the same grade...it's all going to come down to one test. Maybe they had a bad day...which is why I think you do [grades].” — Matt Jones ([18:09])
  • “I think...there's a huge pressure to make the students happy and give them good grades so they don't whine and complain.” — Matt Jones ([11:07])
• Podcast Success:
  • “Jones is simply one of the most successful yet widely unknown hosts in this space.” — Matt Jones quoting Awful Announcing ([27:32])
  • “There’s no local show in the country that has over a thousand listeners a day in more markets than ours.” — Matt Jones ([29:09])
• Basketball Callers:
  • “I think maybe I see it because I had a couple sons who really struggled in the classroom. It was a struggle for them just to get a C.” — Ryan Lemond ([13:34])
• KSR Banter:
  • “You guys...Part of the reason you lose is you all pick with your heart.” — Matt Jones ([41:01])
  • “You think about it while we also make our game.” — Matt Jones ([41:20])
  • “If you wanted to make the biggest middle finger to Matt Jones hire it would be bringing in Dabo Sweeney.” — Matt Jones ([36:22])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• LSU Football Drama & Coach Contract Debate: 02:17–08:13
• Harvard Grade Inflation & Higher Ed Debate: 08:57–14:54
• Listener Call: Auburn Band Dad Attire: 14:55–16:24
• UK Volleyball/Sports Ticket Price Discussion: 19:01–21:17, 24:05–25:26
• Podcast Reach & Influence Discussion: 25:54–30:44
• Caller Sports Takes/Basketball Discussion: 30:48–33:43
• UK Football, Potential Coaching Changes: 35:40–38:26
• KSR Parlay Picks & UK–Auburn Game Predictions: 38:36–43:13

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Tone & Style

Casual, humorous, irreverent, and conversational—marked by good-natured teasing, Kentucky-fried analogies, and the camaraderie of a close-knit radio crew. The hosts emphasize listener involvement and provide an entertaining blend of opinion, sports analysis, and relatable real-life stories.

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Summary Takeaways

• LSU’s handling of athletic department leadership is a cautionary tale about politics in college sports, opening broader discussion about NCAA governance and stability issues.
• Grade inflation, especially at elite schools, raises important cultural and practical questions—the episode surfaces genuine differences between valuing effort versus measuring excellence.
• KSR remains a powerhouse local sports radio/podcast with national reach, outpacing many comparable shows in market diversity and engagement.
• UK Volleyball’s success stands out as a bright spot for Kentucky athletics.
• Listener engagement is a hallmark, with calls fueling both practical debate (fan gear) and deep sports talk (basketball strategy, coaching futures).
• The “unknown-yet-successful” trope about KSR becomes fodder for funny, self-effacing banter, highlighting both humility and pride in the show’s achievements.

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For those who missed it, this episode provides a rich cross-section of college sports hot topics, Kentucky pride, educational commentary, and comedic moments—all in classic KSR fashion.

Transcript

[Ryan Lemond]

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[Shannon Dawson]

Welcome to our two of Kentucky sports radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live at Whiskey Thief. Great crowd just outside of Frankfurt on Crab Orchard Road. What an awesome you guys, every time we come here give us a great environment. We appreciate it. Everybody's enjoying the bourbon. They got a food truck out there. They brought us some food. Crazy amount of food. Nacho fries, pimento cheese sandwiches, chicken. Damn, that's one tasty burger. Chicken tacos. They're like literally everything is here. There's gonna be enough food for us to eat long after this show is over. Drew, look at this. Let's look at all these fries selections right here.

[Drew Franklin]

There are 12 boxes of food in front of us. The four of us, we have I guess that's three entrees each.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. 859-280-2287 Text machine is 772-774-5254. Let's talk about some non depressing UK sports news. Since we took a loss and have football. Let's start watching. It's not even uk. Let's start with the craziness that I've been loving at LSU football. All right, so we talked about the governor. He gets involved. I say, I say, I say the governor just keeps Foghorn Lego earning it everywhere. Yesterday, they fired the athletic director. The athletic director's gone. Kim Mulkey, the women's basketball coach, who has, of course, won a national championship. She refused to do her post game press conference after the exhibition game in protest of the athletic director being fired. So by getting rid of the athletic director, they're now upsetting probably their most successful, successful coach, which is their women's basketball coach. So that's nice. The governor goes on the Pat McAfee show and basically says, I'm only going to give a contract where the college coach is not guaranteed a lot of money. He has to win the games to get. Get the money. Well, that sounds great. Everybody clap. Now go find a coach. Who's going to agree to that.

[Ryan Lemond]

Exactly.

[Matt Jones]

Everybody can clap. I love when people clap. Yes, let's do this. And then guess what happens. Go find somebody to agree to that.

[Ryan Lemond]

You think Lane Kiffin's going to agree?

[Matt Jones]

Who's going to agree? Who is going to agree? Contract that only pays me if I win. If I can have a team over here that gives me a contract no matter what, nobody's going to do that. You. Would you do that? Would you go work somewhere? That only said you get it if you produce X much and the person next to you says you get it either way, nobody's going to do that. So he's going to end up either not doing that or B, he's going to get a coach like Lane Kiffin saying, I ain't going there. So I just. I find the whole thing hilarious. Drew. I think it's going to be. It's probably going to end up as a disaster. And no matter what, when you have your women's basketball coach walking out of a press conference, this, this is why politicians should never be involved in this stuff. I mean, they really shouldn't because they have an incentive to grandstand. And the incentive needs to be Drew to win games and get coaches. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

There was a guy with an LSU shirt back there. He just disappeared. I don't know where he went. I don't think you like that conversation.

[Matt Jones]

I'm sorry.

[Drew Franklin]

If I'm a coach, you're thinking lsu. This is one of the best jobs in the country. All that talent around there. But also, do I work for the governor or the ad? Do they even. Are they working together? Like, what's going on over there?

[Matt Jones]

No, I don't want to be a.

[Drew Franklin]

Part of that because they can't even seem to figure out their own situation.

[Matt Jones]

Well, let's just think about getting an ad. Ryan, if you're an AD looking to go to a school, do you want to go to a school where the governor can all of a sudden be like, I'm going on a Pat McAfee show and I'm going to fire you? Like, who's going to want to go work for that guy? I mean, I don't understand why anybody would do it.

[Ryan Lemond]

Exactly. What wants to work in that situation and what coach wants to come and work for? You don't even have your know who your boss is going to be. You don't have an AD even to work for.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I. I just want you to think of how ridiculous this sounds. What if Andy Beshear just fired Mitch Barnhart and said he was going to hire the football coach? It's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen in my life.

[Shannon Dawson]

Well, he may actually get applauded if that happened in our situation, but.

[Matt Jones]

Well, okay, but let's say he was going to fire Mark Pope and Mitch Barnhart, and he was gonna. I mean, it's craziness.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, we'd have pitchforks in his front yard if that happened. But, yeah, I mean, with all the lucrative deals that coaches get now, you're right. There's not going to be a coach that's going to agree to that.

[Matt Jones]

I just. I can't imagine. I mean, I could see a scenario where they go to a guy and go, okay, instead of 10 million guaranteed, I'll give you seven. But if you win the national championship, you get 16.

[Shannon Dawson]

That's just called a bonus in a contract.

[Matt Jones]

But you're still just moving ships on the Titanic. I mean, you're still going to owe a lot of money. No coach is going to agree. Agree to. You get 2 million, and then you get a million per win. Like, no one's gonna agree to that. Why would they?

[Drew Franklin]

I completely agree with you. I think you nailed it. I don't know how they're gonna get an ad like, because any. That should be a good job. But if governor can just step in and fire you at any moment, I wouldn't sign up for that.

[Matt Jones]

No, the last thing you want to do is be responsive to a governor who, by the way, can lose reelection, and then you're working for somebody else. You know, I mean, like, at least with the ad, you have the ability to know who your boss is. How would you like to have governor gets in a sex scandal, and all of a sudden, the lieutenant governor is your boss? Like, nobody wants.

[Shannon Dawson]

Can a governor even do that? Like, is he within the power to be able to pick an ad?

[Matt Jones]

Technically, it's a state university.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And technically, the governor appoints the board of trustees, so technically, probably, yes. But it's a difference. I mean, one of the great things that's happened in the last few years is I think Americans are starting to realize something that I don't think a lot of people knew, which is, when you elect a president or a governor, they have a lot of power, probably more power than you realize, because, in theory, they can do a lot of stuff. Now, most of the time, they don't. They appoint people to do it for them. So, like, they appointed someone to be an expert in this, but if they want to, they can do a lot, and I think that's a poor choice. Like, not everybody can do everything. But in Louisiana, they think they can hire a football coach.

[Ryan Lemond]

So don't you think they need to hire an AD first to help them hire the coach?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I would. I would, but we'll see what happens. But the AD found out he was fired on the Pat McAfee show yesterday.

[Drew Franklin]

That's what I mean. Why would you want that job you got? If I can get fired on espn, which people can't even watch right now, how would I sign up for that? And, you know, I don't know politics very well, but didn't your boy Matt Bevin do something with the Louisville board like this? Couldn't. Could he have hired the Louisville coach?

[Matt Jones]

Let me. Let me just use the example of. I will give Matt Bevin. I'll explain. Matt Bevin actually did what I think a governor can do. But. But is. Okay. Matt Bevin appointed the UofL board. Right. And he encouraged the board to make changes, but ultimately, it was the board that did it. And there were Bashir appointees on that board and Bevin appointees. And Landry just went above everybody and fired everyone. And I just. I think that's a bad decision. Completely different topic. You ever been to Harvard, Ryan Lemon?

[Ryan Lemond]

You may be shocked, but I am not a Harvard grad.

[Matt Jones]

I'm not shocked about that. I just wondered if you'd ever been there, period.

[Ryan Lemond]

I've not been there.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

Not even seen it.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so Harvard. A lot of people consider Shannon, like, to be the best or second best school in the country, right? So you think of Harvard Y. In 1996, the amount of A's that they gave at Harvard was 15% of the classes. So 15% classes. Every student would get an A. Then that went up in like 2001 to 25%. Would you like to know how many CL in a class, what amount of students now are making A's at Harvard?

[Shannon Dawson]

Let's hear it.

[Ryan Lemond]

How many?

[Matt Jones]

62% of all grades that given at Harvard in 25 were A's.

[Drew Franklin]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

So a study was done. And of course, that has a few implications, one of which is people who graduate with all A's. That doesn't seem quite as impressive, right?

[Drew Franklin]

No, not at all.

[Matt Jones]

But secondly, where I think it's going to really have an impact is if you don't have A's.

[Shannon Dawson]

Now you're the dumb kid because it's.

[Matt Jones]

Basically acknowledging that you were in the bottom 40%. But Harvard has now said we are going to completely revamp our grading system. We cannot have 60% of the students getting the exact same grade. Do you think there should be a rule where teachers at any level have to spread out the A's, or are you okay with grade inflation?

[Ryan Lemond]

I am okay with grade inflation because really, what does it really matter? I mean, the fact. If you got an A in a class in college, does it matter what you do today? If you know the material, you may have a bad test, maybe you might get a B.

[Matt Jones]

Sounds like somebody who didn't get A's.

[Shannon Dawson]

Are you suggesting everybody just gets A's? I'd say like a participation trophy.

[Matt Jones]

Like you try.

[Ryan Lemond]

So.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that is very.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, it is. If you tried. Here's your A.

[Matt Jones]

But I don't like participation trophy.

[Ryan Lemond]

You pass or you fail. That's really. I mean, why we gotta get it.

[Matt Jones]

Why don't you play the game or you don't.

[Ryan Lemond]

You win or you lose. You score more points or you don't.

[Shannon Dawson]

I think the issue here is AI probably being used a lot.

[Drew Franklin]

Chad GPT.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, I think I think a lot. Because either that or you think that kids are getting smarter or the classes are getting easier.

[Matt Jones]

No, I think. I actually think none of those things are the main explanation.

[Shannon Dawson]

What do you think is.

[Matt Jones]

I think that and. And as someone who's taught at a college for a few years, I think. I think there's a huge impact. Now put on your reviews. Okay. So college in a lot of way, like colleges are now very much competitive to get students. They want to make sure. And teachers want to be approved by students. And so you get reviews at the end of the year and I think there's a huge pressure to make the students happy and give them good grades so they don't whine and complain.

[Caller]

Wow.

[Shannon Dawson]

We're worried about them whining.

[Matt Jones]

Listen, I genuinely think that's true. When I teach. Look, when I teach at Georgetown, I'm not acting like I'm a great professor, but I don't give a ton of A's. And I get a lot of pushback from students. Like, come on, I did the work. I should get an A. And I want to be like, well, you did the work, but.

[Shannon Dawson]

But it wasn't excellent. But it was an A.

[Drew Franklin]

Is.

[Matt Jones]

An A is supposed to be excellent.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But I do think, like, what Ryan said, there's a lot of parents who are like, why aren't you giving my kid an A?

[Shannon Dawson]

Because he's not smart enough.

[Matt Jones]

He did the work, she did the work.

[Shannon Dawson]

It's not good enough.

[Matt Jones]

But I think what Ryan just expressed is the reason why A's go up so much.

[Shannon Dawson]

You think that's it? So, I mean, yeah, I mean.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, Ryan just said it. Ryan was like, I think everybody should get an A.

[Shannon Dawson]

I wish it was like that. When I was in school, everybody just got an A for sure.

[Matt Jones]

I believe that.

[Ryan Lemond]

Right?

[Matt Jones]

I. I do.

[Ryan Lemond]

Because really, I mean, what in the grand scheme of thing does it matter when you get in the job world? It doesn't matter what your crates.

[Matt Jones]

Don't you.

[Drew Franklin]

But if matters.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yes, it matters, but I'd like for.

[Drew Franklin]

My doctor to know what he's doing.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, exactly.

[Shannon Dawson]

What if it wasn't a great doctor?

[Matt Jones]

You were an employer. Don't you want to know who the best students are? Don't you want the best students to get into med school, to business school, to law school? Why do you want everyone to just. I mean, you socialist. Why do you want everyone to grade equally in. Like, don't you want to know who's the best?

[Ryan Lemond]

Would you get your degree at Harvard or did you get it at Poop State? I'm taking. I'll give the guy to Harvard. I don't care what grades.

[Shannon Dawson]

So.

[Matt Jones]

But to be fair, if you do it like that, rich kids who grow up in rich families with elite educations get into Harvard. Kids that maybe are from a poor place in Kentucky, maybe they have to go to Kentucky. Under your system, they're always going to be behind the guy who met kids who went to Harvard because they didn't get the head start of getting in the same college. Whereas if you have grades, the kid that gets all A'S at Kentucky has a chance to still make it.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think maybe I see it because I had a couple sons who really struggled in the classroom. I mean, it was a struggle for them just to get a a C.

[Matt Jones]

Or a D. But did they work hard?

[Ryan Lemond]

They worked their butt off. We would celebrate them getting a C or a D. I don't care if they got an A.

[Shannon Dawson]

So to Drew's point, though, if you went to the doctor and you knew that this doctor graduated from Harvard but he had a D, wouldn't you rather go to the guy who had an.

[Ryan Lemond]

A, but he got his degree, graduated from med school. That's good enough for me. He knows what he's doing.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay, so you go to that doctor.

[Shannon Dawson]

I'll go to the other 65% passed. He got it.

[Matt Jones]

You got through it.

[Shannon Dawson]

Deal with it.

[Matt Jones]

Ryan lman is glad as long as you Pat. As long as you graduated, operate on me. Fair enough.

[Drew Franklin]

I had a teacher who was like, I've given it was accounting. He's like, I've given two A's in 10 years. And he made it so hard like a C was a good grade, but then in the end, he kind of curved it a little bit. But I actually like that it brought everyone down to me.

[Matt Jones]

Well, there are schools that do this, by the way, like Yale. A lot of people don't realize Yale Law School, which is literally is considered the best law school in the country. They don't even give grades. Everything is pass fail. They take the view of every single thing is pass fail. And they do that. But their theory is we only let in 150 students. So you had to be pretty awesome to get in here to begin with. So that's their theory. I don't know if other schools should do that. What's up next, Donnie? Donnie. Go ahead, Donnie.

[Caller]

Hey, Matt. I'm down here in Alabama. I'm a transplant. I was born and raised in Hart County. My daughter's in the band at Auburn, and we're going to the game tomorrow. And I just want yalls opinion. She doesn't want me to wear anything Kentucky. And do I get a pass to not wear it, or should I just go ahead and wear it and let her be upset?

[Matt Jones]

All right, are you in seats that are in an Auburn section that your daughter got you, or did you just get regular tickets?

[Caller]

No, we got season tickets when she made the band.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so here's what I would say. You could. You should cheer for her when the Auburn band goes out there. Go. Let's Go, Auburn Band. You're the best band. You're the best daughter. But when they're playing football, your daughter is out there tooting a horn. She's not throwing a pass. You should be rooting for Kentucky.

[Caller]

But she didn't want me to wear a shirt, a hat, or anything. And I've never said, want you to wear any shirt. No, she don't want me to wear a Kentucky shirt. She wants me to wear a shirt that says Auburn Band Dad.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, that's fine. So here's your compromise. Auburn band dad, Kentucky hat. Auburn band dad, Kentucky hat. I think you're showing allegiance to your daughter. You're showing allegiance to the cats. I think that's a good combination. What about that, sir?

[Caller]

Well, I've got a KSR hat. Would that work?

[Matt Jones]

I'll take it. Yes. As a matter of fact, that's better. KSR hat, Auburn bandad shirt. But you're cheering for the cats. That work.

[Caller]

That works, buddy. Thank you.

[Matt Jones]

I think that. I think that's the thing to do, don't you? Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm the wrong guy to ask. When I was at uk, I took my dad to a game, and he wore Tennessee gear, and I was like, everyone heckle him. Like, let's just lay into him. So I'm. I'm a little different when it comes to that.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know, Auburn is weird. There's a lot of Kentucky residents that go to school at Auburn for that program, and a lot of Kentucky.

[Matt Jones]

A lot of Kentucky people there. Cornbread hemp. Shannon, you love the cornbread Hip, tell them about the seltzer.

[Shannon Dawson]

Oh, the seltzers are the best. And they just added the 10 milligrams of.

[Matt Jones]

Let me just say, ma', am, if you slow. If you all do the 10 milligrams, don't drink a full thing. That's all you do, the cornbread. Him. Just. Just be slow. Don't, don't, don't, don't.

[Shannon Dawson]

May have had a couple last night myself.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. Cornbreadhemp.com you got gummies. Today is the last day to get the 75. You get the free sleep gummies. $125. You get the tote bag. It's cornbread hemp dot com. Cornbread hemp. This is the good life. We'll take a break and be right back here at Whiskey Thief. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-774-5254. Great discussion. We got some People. Shannon on Ryan's side.

[Shannon Dawson]

Okay, all right, let's.

[Matt Jones]

I've never been to my doctor and tried and asked them what their grades were. Yeah, but the reason the doctor. The reason they're a doctor at all was because of their grades. If they didn't have good grades, they wouldn't have gotten into med school.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's true.

[Shannon Dawson]

I'm gonna start asking my doctor, hey, let's see your report card.

[Matt Jones]

And then, like, if you go to a really good hospital, the reason the people that work at the hospital are who they are is because they did well in school.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, right. But it is true, though. You go into a doctor's office, you see the Harvard, you know, whatever it is diploma up there. You think, okay, graduate from Harvard.

[Matt Jones]

I would also note this. This was my point at Georgetown when I was asked about grades. If you give everybody the same grade and then they want to go to. To law school, how do you think the law school differentiates between the students? Their lsat, which is one test, which means if somebody's a bad test taker, they're going to have their entire life based on one test. Is that better? No, it would be a lot. Like, when you're a teacher, you know who the best students are. You're able to show that through grades. If you give them all the same grade, then it's all going to come down to one test. And maybe they had a bad day, Drew. And so, like, I think that's why I think you do it. Like, when I have my students, If I have 20 students, I know who the best couple are. So you should be able to find a way to point out who they are.

[Drew Franklin]

Exactly. My professor one time didn't even know who I was. I was like, hey, I'm actually in this class. I haven't been here in a while. So they probably, in the back of their mind, thought, that's not one of my leaders.

[Shannon Dawson]

It does go to show you, though, how much trust we put in other people, you know?

[Matt Jones]

Well, you have to, though.

[Shannon Dawson]

You have to.

[Matt Jones]

You have to. How you gonna know? UK volleyball plays on Sunday against Texas. Top five matchup, probably for the SEC title. The game is in Austin, Texas. Game starts at 1:00'. Clock. We're gonna have a watch party at the bar. A lot of UK volleyball. I think some family members of the players are coming. So show up in blue and get there. This is a massive game that Craig Skinner has a chance to win his ninth straight SEC title. You know, Texas moved into the conference. They've always Been really good at volleyball. They're going to be kind of their rival. This is a massive game. Only time they play this year and it's at Austin.

[Ryan Lemond]

Sold out. The guy on the delete report this morning we did. Gabriel said tickets are going for like up to around $800 to get in to watch a.

[Matt Jones]

Right.

[Ryan Lemond]

What he said, like, I promise you that's what the guy said this morning with Gabriel. Yes, he did. Low, I guess probably maybe the lower. Lower arena seats.

[Matt Jones]

For volleyball.

[Ryan Lemond]

For volleyball. And it's sold out. Like that is completely sold out. That arena.

[Matt Jones]

That's kind of amazing. I didn't even know that I'm gonna watch it. I mean, I have NFL Sunday, but I plan on dual screening it and going little volleyball red zone. I'm looking for it. I hope. I hope Skinner's group get it. They deserve it.

[Shannon Dawson]

They do.

[Drew Franklin]

I think they play tonight. I'm trying to pull up the schedule at home too, if you wanted to get one before they go.

[Matt Jones]

Very.

[Drew Franklin]

That's what I was trying to look up. Yeah, I'm looking forward. Obviously not gonna make the trip to Austin, but I'm gonna try to catch some of the party at KS Bar because we had few of those during the championship run years ago and the crowd really got into it at the bar for their away games.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I think it'll be fun. We'll also have NFL games on. But this is a massive chance. You know, I remember I talked to Craig when Texas joined the conference. He was like, this is going to be the rivalry for the next decade. Us in Texas for the sec. Last year I think maybe Texas was a little down, so we were able. But this year they've got a full squad and it should be a great battle.

[Shannon Dawson]

So you say nine straight. I mean, you think about that. That is as an impressive run for any, any coach in any sport.

[Matt Jones]

Before Craig, Kentucky had won one volleyball title ever. And now they've won nine straight and a national championship.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's amazing.

[Matt Jones]

That's pretty amazing. That is an amazing run for one coach.

[Ryan Lemond]

There's a round of applause.

[Drew Franklin]

Best coach on campus.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think that's completely fair. Who's up next?

[Ryan Lemond]

Mike.

[Matt Jones]

Mike. Go ahead, Mike.

[Caller]

Hey, Matt. Matt.

[Matt Jones]

Yes, go ahead.

[Caller]

Hello, Matt. Hey, good morning. Trick or treat to all of you, man. I was looking in my office here this morning. That on X. I understand that YouTube TV is. They have a lockout with Disney and evidently the UK football game tomorrow night is going to be blacked out. Won't be able to get it on KSR Restaurant. Are you all on YouTube? Are you, are you all going to be able to get the game?

[Matt Jones]

We will have the game. We have YouTube and so we're able to get it no matter what. So yes, we will have the game.

[Caller]

Okay, so Greg, tv, you will be able to have it. Okay, thank you.

[Matt Jones]

No problem. Thank you. Who's up next?

[Ryan Lemond]

Brent.

[Matt Jones]

Brent. Go ahead, Brent. Hey, man.

[Caller]

Oh, I got a couple small things. First off, my dad's a long time fan, but he's only been to two games recently and that was last night and the tournament game against Tennessee. Tennessee. So I think we got abandoned from games going forward. Also, second thing, talking about people wanting to root against Kentucky and football, I wouldn't say I'm like on every single play being like, oh yeah, Auburn just got something. But I just feel like even if we win with like a cupcake schedule and go to a bowl, like Florida and Auburn going through coaches, I just feel like that's a band aid on the problem. Like, cool. Go to a bowl this year, what they're going to do next year, you know, it's like you're not going to get like.

[Matt Jones]

I understand what you're saying, but I will, I will say this and I appreciate the call. I, I am not expecting us to beat Florida, Auburn and Louisville or Florida, Auburn and Vandy. I'm not expecting that to happen. But if it did, that's not a cupcake schedule. Okay, I know Florida and Auburn aren't great this year, but it's still Florida and Auburn and Vanderbilt's really good and Louisville's got a chance to be 10 and 2. So if you were to win those three games, whether you think there should be a change or not, it wouldn't be fair to. I mean, since when are we Kentucky so good that we can say Florida and Auburn or cupcake games? I mean, come on. At Auburn, like, seriously, if we win those games, we've criticized Mark and he's deserved it. But if he were to finish and beat Florida, Auburn and Louisville or Florida, Auburn and Vandy, he would deserve credit. We can't sit here and make it to where there's nothing he can do that's worth the CR with. It's worth praise.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

And all summer I said, just get back to a bowl. We'll be happy. That's a big rebuild.

[Shannon Dawson]

I can't.

[Drew Franklin]

If he made a bow, I can't then be like, well, I didn't like the six you won.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, TJ Smith, personal injury attorney.

[Shannon Dawson]

Call TJ he'll make him pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. The text MA is 772-774-5254. Back to this volleyball game for a second get in price just to get in.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

$225.

[Shannon Dawson]

Wow.

[Ryan Lemond]

Wow.

[Shannon Dawson]

That's got to be like the highest it's ever been.

[Matt Jones]

Upper level, most expensive ticket is up to 12 or 13 hundred dollars for.

[Ryan Lemond]

A collegiate volleyball game. Wow.

[Shannon Dawson]

I don't know if there's twelve hundred dollars. I would pay anything to go to concert super bowl. Twelve hundred dollars to go the Super Bowl.

[Matt Jones]

That is. That is absolutely unbelievable. Also this weekend, by the way, Breeders cup starts today. The Classic lost Sovereignty. So it was supposed to be maybe the best race of all time. They end up losing the favorite. Kind of a shame that the horse that won the Derby and won the Bell Bot. But then it skipped the Preakness and now it won't be in the Breeders Cup Classic. It had a chance to drew potentially go out and it's one of the great horses of all time but by not as they say, the best ability is availability and it's not going to be available. So still a great weekend of of races. But what was going to potentially be like the most classic Breeders Cup Classic of all time took a hit with the favorite out.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, the hype had been building for that. Heck, we talked about it few weeks on the show. What was ahead. One of the biggest races ever and it stinks seeing such a big name like that. But hopefully it's still good even though.

[Ryan Lemond]

It'S missing sovereignty journalism, I guess.

[Matt Jones]

Now the favorite, no, they've got Sierra Leone from last year, Forever Young Fierceness, the I think who want one of those horses won the Oaks this year. It's in it the one of the Phillies running against him. It still will be a great race, but it loses. It loses its favorite power.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know, most people felt like if he would have run him in the Preakness, but he would have maybe have been another Triple Crown champion with that. Good.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. A big thank you to our audience. A very cool thing yesterday, this website called Awful Announcing that does sports media, they listed the most important people in the world of sports podcasting and they put us on there, which is absolutely unbelievable. And that's because of you guys. I mean literally the list, the list is like Bill Simmons, Dave Portnoy, the Kelsey's, Colin Cowherd. I mean Literally, the list is like the biggest stars. And then it's people in, like agents and people who create shows. And then at the very bottom, it says Kentucky Sports Radio. And it's like. And it.

[Ryan Lemond]

The.

[Matt Jones]

The script is very funny.

[Drew Franklin]

You gotta read your line. I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

Off top of my head, I do need to. Let me. Let me read you what they said about us. This was kind of a funny. But you know what? They should put this on my tombstone. Pier is at the sports podcast charts on Apple or Spotify on any given week. And you just might see Kentucky Sports Radio, which may lay claim as the biggest local sports podcast in America. As recently as last year, Jones said it was the biggest local sport on iHeart's roster. We got confirmation of that again yesterday. This year, Jones rose to new heights with a larger deal at iHeart. Landed him a news interview show and a weekly NFL podcast. And then this is the line. Jones is simply one of the most successful yet widely unknown hosts in this space.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'll take it.

[Shannon Dawson]

That's how you want to be, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Successful, yet widely unknown.

[Shannon Dawson]

I mean, if you be successful, be on the radio, be unknown. That's impressive.

[Matt Jones]

I think the only thing was widely. For some reason, people have to know.

[Shannon Dawson]

About you to listen to you.

[Ryan Lemond]

So it's.

[Shannon Dawson]

It's interesting that you're successful, but wild.

[Matt Jones]

Widely unknown.

[Drew Franklin]

It did seem like an unnecessary adject. Could have just been unknown. He could have moderately unknown.

[Matt Jones]

Was.

[Drew Franklin]

Are you moderate to severe unknown.

[Matt Jones]

Severely, it's widely unknown. Better than just unknown.

[Drew Franklin]

It's really emphasizing how unknown.

[Shannon Dawson]

I mean, you're locally known.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I would have said only locally unknown. Yeah. Was that better or not? I just think the whole sentence takes a little bit of the luster off. But still, if you look at the company, it's kind of amazing. Ryan, we were included in.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. You see all the big hitters and then KSR is right there. You know those folks in Tennessee, football fans, they know who you are.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Illinois. I mean, Indiana basketball fans. They know who you are.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Let me say this too. We got a list yesterday. This first time I've ever seen this. I Heart now shows where all the listeners come from on the podcast. We used to be able to see at any given time where people were listening, but we get to see the markets where people are listening. And the way they do it is every town in America is associated with a big city. So, right. Like, so Middlesboro, Kentucky is actually associated with Knoxville. You know, Frankfurt is probably associated with Lexington, etc. So if you look at our listeners, the most listeners we have is actually in the Louisville demographic, which is. Because Louisville's bigger. I mean, that. That. That would be what it is. But then next is Lexington. But then we were surprised. Ryan. Next was Indianapolis. Yeah. And next was Nashville. And then it. But what was amazing is there's no local show in the country that has over a thousand listeners a day in more markets than ours. We have something like 27 markets around the country where we have at least a thousand listeners a day, and that includes places like Orlando, Philadelphia. Excuse me. That is a really cool thing. And for a lot of you that are podcast and streaming people, the fact that there are people literally listening in, over a thousand people listening in 27 different markets around. Around the country, that is crazy. I mean, that really is crazy for a local show. The second biggest show, which I won't say what it is, but the second biggest show is in another state. They only have that in five markets, and we have it in 27, which is crazy.

[Ryan Lemond]

It is crazy. Just recently, there have been people come into ksbar. They listen to the podcast in Vermont. They live in Delaware. But I was kind of surprised that Indianapolis was bigger and bigger than Nashville or Knoxville.

[Matt Jones]

Indianapolis was a lot.

[Ryan Lemond]

It was.

[Matt Jones]

So, I don't know, maybe there's more of Kentucky considered, but what part of Kentucky would be considered Indianapolis? Because you would think it would be considered Louisville.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Jeffersonville, New Albany, all that's going to be part of the Louisville market.

[Matt Jones]

So I don't know what it was, but I guess we have people in Indianapolis. So salute to all of you in Indianapolis. Who's up next?

[Drew Franklin]

Casey.

[Matt Jones]

Casey. Go ahead, Casey.

[Caller]

Hey, good morning, fellers. Happy Halloween. So that picture of you, your mom and Larry and Larry and his KSR hat is the best thing I've ever seen. It brought a tear to my eye. But the reason I called, I'm really impressed so far, which last night is hard to talk about, but Yellow Bitch. I think he's going to end up starting sooner rather than later. I think he's just going to be tough this year, and that's all I have. I hope you guys have a great weekend.

[Matt Jones]

Go catch you as well. What do you think about Yellow? Vic looked, I thought, really good in the first game. Struggled a little bit last night, but I still think a lot of promise. Probably tougher than I would have thought. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I said on the pregame show before the game that I'm a believer. I think there's a lot that he just hasn't untapped. He's still getting used to being over here and last night nothing was really working. So I want to be careful complimenting things. But I thought for a little bit in the first half he and Malachi Marino were working well together. I don't think Marino got rewarded with an assist because they didn't finish. But he had two or three really nice passes that kind of looked like Amari hitting some cutting guys and it was in there. One of them was to Yellow Bitch. Those two had a little two man game working as best they could as nothing else was.

[Matt Jones]

I think the thing I like about Yellow Bitch is unlike say Big Z, he seems like he can get physical and he is a better defender than Z was when Z was here.

[Ryan Lemond]

I really like the abate and Yellow Bitch rotating that four spot. I mean they, they can get. If he needs a tough defender, get debate. You need somebody to go out and knock down a couple shots. Thor, Yellow Bitch out there. I'm glad Drew mentioned Malachi. My just fell off.

[Shannon Dawson]

Oh, there goes his mustache popped off. Don't pick it up. Put it back on now.

[Matt Jones]

Don't do that.

[Shannon Dawson]

Not a ground mustache.

[Matt Jones]

Put that down. All right, go ahead, I'll wear it.

[Ryan Lemond]

Malachi, like Drew said, made a couple really nice passes. Didn't finish a couple times, but I just loved him going strong to the basket. That'll happen though. He'll start finishing those. That shows me how aggressive that kid's become.

[Matt Jones]

He makes some great passes. It did feel like for Malachi it was a welcome to physical play moment because a couple of those big dudes were bodying him and he's going to have to get used to that because I, I think he's very much athletic, finesse player and that he got some.

[Drew Franklin]

Bodies last night, but that's why these games are good. If he's garden the six four center at a local Kentucky college, he's probably having his way with them and not actually learning anything or having a little breakthrough there. So it was good for him to get pushed around a little bit against a good team.

[Matt Jones]

I what about Jasper Johnson? You know, we. He was the leading scorer in the last game. Kind of out of control a little bit last night he shot a three on three out of four plays and Mark Pope gave him the business coming to the bench, including twice he just ran down the court and shot three immediately. Good learning experience. Hopefully for him too.

[Ryan Lemond]

I must say. You know, he'll get, he'll get smarter in the situation like that. Him and Chandler both. I think kind of forced to couple threes. Maybe they shouldn't have done that. But one of those guys needs to step up and kind of be a leader, you know, be more of a. A floor general. Because they were out of sorts offensively last night.

[Matt Jones]

We compare him to Rob Dillingham. But Shannon, we had those moments with Rod Dilling. Rob Dillingham, too, where we'd go, hey, Rob, take a deep breath. It's going to be okay. I think there was a little bit of.

[Shannon Dawson]

I think last night's performance kind of just balanced out what happened against Purdue, you know, played great against them. And I think that we probably should just have that opinion for both the games. Just in general, they're both exhibition games. Take them at face value for what they are.

[Matt Jones]

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[Ryan Lemond]

How about Sarah McGill? Shout out.

[Matt Jones]

We'll take a break and be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Who is this? Liam?

[Shannon Dawson]

Luke Trimble.

[Matt Jones]

Reading books, huh? Interesting. I haven't heard this. 859-280-2287. By the way, I heard. Do you know who the. Is it the old 60s or old 60? What's the name of the group? Oh, 60s. Yeah, they're at Burrow. They were at the borough last night. It was wild. I mean, I wasn't there really, but I saw the scene and it was raining and cold and wild. They're gonna be there again tonight. I may have to find a way to sneak in. It looked like the most fun. I don't even know who they are. Look like the most fun thing I've ever seen in at the Burl. That's the. That's the wildest atmosphere around that place I've ever seen. You know, I'm not far from it.

[Shannon Dawson]

The Burl. Is that. Is that outdoors or is it.

[Matt Jones]

It's indoors and outdoors, but they were doing it. They're doing it outdoors for this because they can have more people, I think.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, it's supposed to be a decent night tonight. Last night was horrible. If they had were outside last night but tonight supposed to be really good for trick or treating and everything.

[Matt Jones]

One person writes. Matt, what about the rumor Nick Roush said about Dabo Sweeney and uk Yeah, I don't know what Nick Roush is talking about but you want to make my head explode. Make Dabo Sweeney the coach here.

[Drew Franklin]

I might name him.

[Matt Jones]

I don't even know.

[Shannon Dawson]

You know, I can't.

[Matt Jones]

I can't clean up the archives quick enough to get rid of the Dabo Sweeney. Like there'd be no way for me to handle a Dabo Sweeney higher.

[Shannon Dawson]

Dabo and Mitch.

[Matt Jones]

I mean no, I mean they're exactly like.

[Shannon Dawson]

I think they would really get along.

[Matt Jones]

Dabo's a little more like outgoing.

[Shannon Dawson]

Could you imagine?

[Matt Jones]

I couldn't deal with.

[Shannon Dawson]

He was our coach.

[Drew Franklin]

They had couldn't fake it.

[Matt Jones]

If you wanted to make the biggest middle finger to Matt Jones higher it would be bringing in D. Sweeney. That would be a great. I can't imagine he would leave Clemson though. But let's talk just a second about names because if we lose Saturday night we won't have a show until Monday and everybody's going to be throwing names around beginning immediately after the game because I think it'll be clear things aren't happening for Mark. John Sumrall got beat by 25 points last night.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, he did.

[Drew Franklin]

It's good for business.

[Matt Jones]

That's good for business. I completely agree.

[Drew Franklin]

That's good for Kentucky.

[Matt Jones]

We. We want to Lane to kind of bottom out here because then that might run Auburn and LSU away.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I know Stein is a hot name in the fan base. Summer I'll still won for me and that. That changed nothing. If anything it helps Kentucky circumstances.

[Matt Jones]

I. I do think it helps Kentucky circumstances because you know, you have to watch the top names. So like Signetti resigned. Matt Rule at Nebraska resigned. So now I mean Penn State and LSU and those teams, they got to get somebody and we're kind of lower on the depth chart. So John Somer all dropping in excitement is probably good for us.

[Ryan Lemond]

It probably is good for us. That's why it's in interesting if. If Lane Kiffin leaves. Okay. I mean Ole Miss is now going to be in our kind of maybe.

[Matt Jones]

This is definitely a job better than us though. Like LSU is Florida is. Is Ole Miss.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes. Right now I thought would argue why.

[Shannon Dawson]

Kevin sort of made it that way, I think.

[Matt Jones]

But would you want to follow him.

[Drew Franklin]

Like I mean consistently in the conversation the last few years?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. To me if you follow him at Ole Miss, you better be good because they're gonna want you like, that's the highest standard they've ever been. And they're gonna expect you to be that right off.

[Shannon Dawson]

Just get a really good buyout. If it doesn't work, we're gonna have to stick with you.

[Matt Jones]

Anyway.

[Drew Franklin]

I think that if I'm kiffin, I'm. I might not leave because they're gonna match any price. You have that town wrapped around your finger. It's small. You got family ties there. You're in the playoff mix. I. If I'm him, I would see what ole Missile pay me to stay, and I'd take that.

[Matt Jones]

All right, we're gonna do DraftKings KSR parlay. I'm gonna give you all a chance again to, To. To do it. Me, too.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I don't want to.

[Shannon Dawson]

I mean, you are. I'm a former NFL coach.

[Matt Jones]

We didn't win last week. Yes, that's true. Well, do we think having dressed is.

[Shannon Dawson]

Put the mustache back on, then you get the.

[Caller]

Okay, there you go.

[Ryan Lemond]

Put it back on me. Dumb bears.

[Matt Jones]

All right, with the mustache back on, we will go. I tell you what, Drew, I'll let you go first. What do you like?

[Drew Franklin]

I have two I like, and I'm afraid I'm going to pick the wrong one. We'll flip a coin in my head.

[Matt Jones]

All right.

[Drew Franklin]

Mississippi State getting four and a half against Arkansas. Mississippi State has lost some heartbreakers lately. They've blown some big leads. Should have had Florida beat Arkansas, Just played Auburn. Loss at home. They're a little better with Petrino, but I think Mississippi State can at least cover the four and a half.

[Matt Jones]

Interesting. All right, I am going to have to say, once I had a girl half bear, the other half cat. I'm going to have to take Tennessee at home as a 2 1/2 point favorite over Oklahoma. I feel like Tennessee is going to roll. Oklahoma. I can't believe they're only a 2 1/2 point favorite at home. I would have thought that would have been seven. So I'm going to have to say corn don't grow at all on Rocky Top. I'm going to have to pick the balls.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know what the over is.

[Matt Jones]

That.

[Drew Franklin]

That's going to be a shootout.

[Matt Jones]

So you've got Mississippi State covered four and a half. I got Tennessee. Remember, I haven't lost yet on this, so I need. I. If you want to win some money, bet on the Volves. What do you got?

[Ryan Lemond]

What do you think about Nebraska? Four and a half over usc.

[Matt Jones]

You don't get to pick Nebraska because of Dane Key.

[Ryan Lemond]

But that's a good bet. They're at home. They're four and a half point. They just re signed their coach.

[Matt Jones]

Do we want to let him do Nebraska?

[Shannon Dawson]

He lost his mustache. No, you don't get the pick.

[Matt Jones]

I was.

[Ryan Lemond]

I felt good about it till the mustache fell off.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean I have three rules in gambling and one of them is don't ever bet on Nebraska. But if we want to.

[Matt Jones]

The second is don't ever bet on your family members.

[Drew Franklin]

I'll ride with it.

[Matt Jones]

If he believes you, believe you guys, count me out.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm just going to put on my big $2 bet on Nebraska.

[Matt Jones]

All right, we'll throw Nebraska in Mississippi State, Tennessee, Nebraska. Shannon, what do you add?

[Shannon Dawson]

All right, I'm going to go back to the SEC arc. Arkansas and Mississippi State.

[Matt Jones]

We already picked that. We picked Mississippi State.

[Shannon Dawson]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Crap. Do you want my other one? It involves your team.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. You had Vanderbilt at Texas.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Shannon Dawson]

I don't know if Arch might be out.

[Drew Franklin]

That's a good thing.

[Shannon Dawson]

All right, let's take Vandy in the three.

[Matt Jones]

So you're going against his pick. He wants.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't want to be part. Forget what I said. You make your pick. I don't want to sway anything.

[Shannon Dawson]

You took my pick.

[Matt Jones]

First of all, you guys got. Part of the reason you lose is you all pick with your heart.

[Shannon Dawson]

Part of the reason.

[Matt Jones]

Dane Key and Vanderbilt.

[Shannon Dawson]

We don't discuss these. These things before we go and I agreed.

[Matt Jones]

I love you, Shannon, but you know every week we're gonna do this right.

[Shannon Dawson]

So I had a pick and you took my pick. So now I've got a pick on the fly. Which is why these things don't.

[Matt Jones]

You think about it. You think about it while we also make our game. Okay. Cats in Auburn. We are at Auburn. We are a ten and a half point underdog. Game is at 7:30. If you have YouTube TV you might not even be able to see it. What do you got?

[Drew Franklin]

I think it'll be a game. I'm going to pick Auburn just because we'll find a way to lose it at the end. I'll even say Kentucky leads in the fourth quarter and somehow blows it. Oh, 3028. 30.

[Matt Jones]

28. Who's your MVP?

[Drew Franklin]

Seth McGowan. If he plays. I'll say he plays and plays well.

[Matt Jones]

I. Let's go. Actually, I'll go with you, Ryan.

[Ryan Lemond]

Auburn's defense is really, really good. So I'm going to have trouble scoring. I'm going to give us 13. I think we lose 24 13. Our MVP of since he took McGowan. I'll take. I'll take Cutter.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. I think we're gonna be in this game for some of it and then I think it'll kind of fall apart at the end. I'm gonna say 2717 and I will take Kendrick Law as my MVP. First of all, what's your parlay pick?

[Shannon Dawson]

I got Georgia on the road -7 at Florida. Georgia.

[Matt Jones]

I think that's a good.

[Shannon Dawson]

There we go.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so Georgia, Nebraska, Mississippi State, Tennessee. Now tell me the Kentucky game scoring MVP 21 18.

[Shannon Dawson]

Cats pull it out. Shia's Pete is going to be my mvp.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh wow.

[Matt Jones]

Pete, you're picking Kentucky to win and sh is the mvp. How are you going to know what he does that makes him the mvp?

[Shannon Dawson]

Because he's going to get a fumble. He's going to run it all the way back.

[Matt Jones]

If that happens, then you win. Hey, thank you folks very much here at Whiskey Thief for joining us. Great crowd. Thanks to Whiskey Thief. Come see their distillery do their tour. Our pregame show is tomorrow at 4:30 4:30 tomorrow for the pre game show you can watch the game at KS Bar and look for me and Mario for best Halloween costume tonight. We'll see you later. This has been Kentucky Sports Radio.

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