2025-11-12- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

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Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – Hour 2

Episode Date: November 12, 2025
Host(s): Matt Jones and the KSR Crew

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Main Theme & Purpose

Hour 2 of this KSR episode is a postgame reaction following Kentucky’s basketball loss to Louisville. The hosts dive deep into the emotional toll of the loss, analyze individual and team performances, discuss fan reactions, and debate coaching decisions. The episode also features lively listener calls, local trivia updates, and an engaging interview with Irish soccer announcer Gavin Colton.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Emotional Fallout from the Louisville Loss

• Atmosphere After the Game:

  • [01:05–01:38] The hosts and fans at KSBar were demoralized postgame, comparing the scene to "Night of the Walking Dead."
  • Matt Jones (C): “They left at the same moment, just depressed.”

• Reflections on the Loss:

  • [01:53–02:26] Some hosts were expecting defeat, but the manner—lengthy double-digit deficits—hurt more than the final score.
  • D (co-host): “I had two hours of getting used to knowing how it was going to end.”
  • C: “What bothers me about the game is how bad we were down most of the game.”

• Team’s Fight:

  • Despite being down by 20 twice, Kentucky repeatedly rallied, which the crew acknowledged as a positive.
  • C: “Both times we did fight back. I do give them credit for that.”

2. Key Plays and Turning Points

• Crunch-time Decisions:
  • [03:04–04:50] The team cut the lead repeatedly but faltered:
    • Missed opportunity: “You have the ball… your point guard… and he jacks up one from the logo.” (A)
    • Notably, after a four-point play Kentucky briefly led, only for Louisville to respond with a huge run.
    • C: “That’s where they really lost the game right there.”

3. Individual Player Analysis

• Otega Away’s Rough Night:

  • [03:13–03:53] Corey Price’s stat: Away had 5 fouls, 5 turnovers, shot <35% FG and <20% 3PT—the only Kentucky player in 20 years with this stat line.
  • Away benched in crunch time, “very surprising.” (C/A)
  • [08:21–09:23, 19:00–20:19] Listeners and hosts criticized Away’s decision-making, particularly taking too many threes likely to impress NBA scouts rather than helping the team.
  • Caller (E): “Adopt more of a Kid Gilchrist mindset… his shot is just atrocious.”

• Colin Chandler’s Emergence:

  • [21:00, 30:02–30:34] Chandler’s hot shooting: 58% from three on 21 attempts, and first UK player to hit four threes in each of the first three games.
  • D (co-host): “Maybe he is the shooter. We keep saying Williams or Noah. Maybe it’s just Chandler and he needs to play more.”

• Shot Form & Technique:

  • [09:23–09:51] Noted issues with Diabate’s shooting form: “He’s shooting from his nipple with a hitch… It’s a bizarre shot.” (C)

4. Coaching, Strategy, and the End of the “Honeymoon”

• Mark Pope’s Reaction:

  • [17:01–18:45, 40:03–41:30] Notably terse and downcast in postgame comments; struggled to provide answers.
    • D: “When they suffer a bad loss, [Pope’s] inconsolable and doesn’t handle it well.”
    • A: “First time since Mark Pope’s been here, I feel like he didn’t have an answer.”
    • Suggestion that the honeymoon phase of Pope’s tenure is ending after this loss. (C, D, A)

• Rotation & Substitution Patterns:

  • [40:03–42:29] Criticism of Pope’s rotation: slow to find optimum lineups and sometimes removing effective players at odd times.
    • F (caller): “Feels like Mark Pope struggles to find the five that are going to be the most effective…”

5. Fan and Caller Reactions—Identity, Rivalry, and Probing Callers

• Spotting “Fake” UK Fans:

  • [11:00–13:20] Host Matt Jones expertly identifies a supposed UK fan caller as actually a Louisville supporter (“You called him big brother,” “You are a Louisville fan.”).
    • C: “No Kentucky fan would call Louisville big brother.”

• Rivalry Stats:

  • [13:29–14:21] While acknowledging Louisville’s win, the show reiterates UK’s dominance in the rivalry: “They have kids that have… graduate degrees that didn’t see a Louisville win.”

6. Other Features and Lighter Segments

• Irish Announcer Gavin Colton Interview (31:07–36:29):

  • Gavin’s journey from Ireland to NKU soccer via a 20-minute, brawl-shortened game.
    • Gavin (E): “I think the game had been abandoned after 20 minutes because of a brawl. [The coach] seemed to love that, offered me a full ride.”
  • Now works in Lexington; brings Irish flair to UK soccer broadcasts.
  • Matt Jones lauds Gavin as a “hit,” comparing his popularity to former KSR regular Max.

• Trivia & Local High School News:

  • Updates about bar trivia, new Henry Clay High School construction, and playful banter about home games at Legends Field.

• Music Tangent:

  • Brief detour discussing The Proclaimers’ “500 Miles” and band nostalgia. (“Who doesn’t like this song?”)

• Bowl Projections & Football:

  • [26:25–27:34] Kentucky projected to the Liberty Bowl; a short football aside speculates about ending the season on a high note against Louisville.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the heartbreak of loss:

  • “When the game was over, they had their head down and did not talk…just walked out.” (A, 01:28)
  • “What bothers me…is how bad we were down most of the game.” (C, 02:15)

• On Otega Away’s night:

  • “He was pulled off the floor for a lot of the end of the game…missed a wide open three towards the end. So that’s surprising.” (C, 03:53)
  • “He shot the ball when he’s not a shooter…looked like he was playing selfish basketball for his draft stock.” (F, 19:22)

• On rivalry and fake callers:

  • “No Kentucky fan would call Louisville big brother. No one would do that.” (C, 12:13)
  • “I can smell out Louisville fans and Republicans who are just trying to hurt me.” (C, 12:58)

• On Mark Pope’s postgame demeanor:

  • “Very unlike him. Short answers. I’ve never heard him be that short.” (C, 17:54)
  • “The honeymoon kind of ended last night. Now the true marriage starts.” (C, 41:54)

• On Chandler’s breakout:

  • “He has taken 21 threes, shooting 58% from three.” (D, 30:02)
  • “No one’s ever done that before.” (C, 30:26)

• On Irish announcer Gavin Colton:

  • “A guy, the Northern Kentucky coach, watched a game of yours for 20 minutes, then the game was abandoned for a brawl, and he offered you a scholarship?” (C, 33:53)
  • “Love that guy.” (A, 36:31)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• [01:05] — Hour 2 opens with KSBar’s postgame scene
• [03:13] — Breakdown of Otega Away’s historically poor game
• [11:00] — “Fake fan” caller segment; Louisville rivalry trash talk
• [17:01] — Mark Pope’s tone and challenges postgame
• [21:00] — Chandler’s shooting earns him late minutes
• [30:02] — Chandler’s statistical breakout
• [31:07] — Interview: Irish soccer announcer Gavin Colton
• [40:03] — Honeymoon ending for Coach Pope; deeper criticism
• [41:54] — Discussion on start of “real” Pop-era expectations
• [43:01] — Ends with preview of trivia night, Friday show plans

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Tone and Style

• Candid and conversational, at times blunt but humorous
• Heavy on banter, inside jokes, and listener engagement
• Emotional but analytical in the wake of a rivalry loss

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For New Listeners

This episode offers both heartfelt and critical reactions to a tough rivalry loss, complete with player analysis, strategic debate, and colorful community voices. The crew’s chemistry is on full display, blending genuine sports insights with good-natured ribbing and lively calls—making it both informative and entertaining for anyone invested in Kentucky basketball or sports radio culture.

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Transcript

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Nmlsconsumeraccess.Org welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[C]

Welcome back. Hour number two here, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287 Text Machine 772-774-5254 the restaurant just opened here on Wednesday. Dollar Wings had great crowd here last night for the game. People were into it. I was told when the game ended though, it looked like Night of the Walking Dead walking out of here. Like everybody just looked so sad. They left at the same moment, just depressed.

[A]

Monique said it was a great crowd, people even sitting on the patio. They stayed till the end of the game. When the game was over, they had their head down and did not talk and say a word to anybody and just walked out.

[C]

I get it. I mean that's kind of how I felt, you know, towards the end as well. It was, it's tough. But you know what, we move on next game, win the football game, play Eastern Illinois. They lost to Notre Dame by 20 last night, so we play them on Friday.

[D]

I do hate that this pulled us out of the BBN United Tip Off Classic to get distracted right before the championship on Friday. That has not been lost on you. I will say it did help swallow the pill of losing to Louisville that it's kind of a blowout. I mean, it's not like they hit the Edgar Sosa shot at the end of the game to steal it. I was ready for it about five minutes into the game.

[C]

That's interesting. I have the opposite view. I was kind of prepared to lose the game. What bothers me about the game is how bad we were down most of the game. I mean I, that's what I mean.

[D]

I had two hours to know the. It wasn't like it was just at the end something happened and stole it. I had two hours of, of getting used to knowing how it was going to end.

[A]

I really thought they were going to run us off the floor there for a minute.

[C]

Well, they were, they did run us off the floor for a while. They ran us off the floor twice and we came back. But to, you know, to Kentucky's credit, I mean they were twice. That game was a 20 point game and both times we did fight back. I mean I do give them credit for that. That's there are teams we've had, you know, we saw that stat. Kentucky hadn't won a game where they were down 20 in like 16 years or something. That was kind of an interesting stat.

[A]

That's why I was talking about that one possession. You cut it all the way down to four. You have the ball, your point guard, your leaders got it, run the offense, get a good shot and he jacks up one from the logo.

[D]

I forgot to share my Corey Price stat of the day earlier because. Yeah, what is not good, There's a lot to it. Let me just read it directly. But he says, and he doesn't lie. Otega away last night was the only Kentucky player over the last 20 years to have five fouls from five turnovers, shoot worse than 35% from the field and worse than 25, 20% from three.

[C]

So he's saying like Otago way had one of the bad games that was.

[D]

One of the, the worst games and.

[A]

Was pulled off the floor in late game situation.

[C]

That's the thing. That's if you would say. Was there a game last, last year where Otega away was not on the floor in crunch time? Probably not.

[A]

It went to him in crunch time.

[C]

And he was pulled off the floor for a lot of the end of the game when he was in missed a wide open three towards the end. So that's surprising.

[A]

Very surprising.

[C]

Now one person writes, Matt, I don't know why you're so upset. You guys are acting like it's the end of the world. We played a top 15 team on their home floor, got their best effort and only lost by eight. Okay. I actually don't disagree with that. If it was a back and forth game but we were, we got destroyed for part of the game. Now we did come back and we had a chance. I Mean, to be honest, you go the final TV timeout, it's a four point game and we have the ball. That's not bad. But I think you do have to consider though how you got there. In the process of talking about what.

[A]

Was that, that play there. Low had the four point play and I think gave us the lead.

[C]

That was crazy. Got fouled on a three.

[A]

Three.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But then didn't they go on something like a 19 to 2 run after that? I think that's where we kind of let the game slip away.

[C]

Was it. When was that?

[A]

It was like midway through the first half. And Low hit the four.

[C]

Oh, that's right. Yes.

[A]

Ahead. And then they just went on a hell of a.

[C]

That was. That was where I was talking about it was that. That was where they went on that.

[A]

That's where they really lost the game right there.

[C]

Yeah. By the way, we have trivia tonight. I'm finishing the questions this afternoon, so get your team, come on out here and join us for trivia. Should be a fun night. You know, usually this be a good chance to win one. Sometimes when we lose the next night, people are kind of sad and they don't come out as much. So this would be a good night to come. You might even if your team stinks, you could maybe become a finalist based on this would be a good time, Ryan Lemon, to actually have your team be able to move on.

[A]

Oh, Ryan's dream team is ready to roll. Ivan picked up a new ringer to join us tonight. Bengals Paul.

[C]

Oh, Bingles Paul.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. And he claimed self proclaimed a great trivia.

[C]

I bet he is actually Pat Kelsey dislocated his finger in the celebration of the game.

[A]

Saw him in post game, had it all bandaged up.

[C]

He said it like went to a 90 degree angle because he got it caught. He tried to give somebody a high five and he got it caught on.

[D]

A curtain as coaches assistant coaches were chasing him. Kind of doing that run around thing like you do in soccer or baseball where you're running from your guys. And broke it running from his coaches. I wish he, you know, I hate complimenting them but you know, he went and jumped in the student section. It looked like quite the night.

[C]

No, I mean, listen, they should be happy. Yeah, they should be very happy. Like they should be. That's a, that's a huge win for them. I'm going to go right back to Louisville, Kentucky, but I want to give you. I'm going to throw you out the topic. All right. And we're Going to discuss it tomorrow, but I want to give you a chance to ruminate on it.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I want to give you a chance to marinate because, Ryan, I feel like your brain needs to marinate this. Here's the question. I just read an article about this. I think it's fascinating that all across the world there's debates happening and you need to tell me which side. Not today, but tomorrow you think you should be. Okay, question is, should people when they are born, have a right to know who their biological parents are? By meaning? What I mean by that is, should the government give them a right to do a DNA test to find out if their biological parents are their actual parents? Okay, so in this world of like 23 and me, although I don't even know if that thing exists, but those kinds of things, people are, like, doing the test and then they realize this person, they thought there was their dad their whole life. Turns out they're not. Maybe because the mom had another relationship or whatever. And like, there was an article in the New York about how it's disrupting their lives, but some of them believe they should have a right to know it, et cetera. Do you think that there should be a right to know who your who your who your DNA? And then also think about how that would apply to sperm banks and things like that.

[A]

You know, this hit home with me. This hits home with me when my three boys are all adopted. So I got a lot to think about.

[C]

So do they have a right to, like, petition to get the government to help them find out? You know, and you could see the arguments on either side. So you marinate on that. All right, I want you. Are you marinating?

[A]

I am probably marinating too much.

[C]

Okay, well, now get back to the show. I don't want you to make you marinate off the air.

[A]

Off the air.

[C]

All right, who's up next?

[A]

Zach.

[C]

Zach. Go ahead, Zach.

[E]

Hey, guys, Just wanted to make a quick comment. I think Ortega has to adopt a more of a kid Gilchrist type of mindset because his shot is just atrocious. Right? Like, MKG had this massive motor and great just presence on the floor, but he also put his head down and just drove the ball and it created so much offense. And I think Ortega has to use that to his advantage because he can't shoot the ball, but he's got to be able to play the defense and use his strengths to his ability.

[C]

Don't disagree with you. Appreciate the call. Jay Bills apparently said during the game that when he went through the NBA process that the scouts told Ortega, you got to get better shooting three and actually suggested changing his form. Does that, in hindsight, look like that might not have helped?

[D]

Didn't Mark Pope say he doesn't change forms? So, as always, I know OA wants to show off he has a 3, but if that's not part of Pope's plan.

[C]

But it is a different form. I mean, I'd like, maybe somebody could put back to back the shots from last year in this one, but it is a different form.

[D]

I don't even know if we can call it form. He and debate both. We'll call it very unconventional.

[C]

Dude, I studied diabate in. In warm ups. His form is even worse than I realized. When he's not shooting in traffic, he's shooting from his nipple with a hitch. Yeah, like, he's bringing it down from his side and like taking it up to his nipple. And then he's on the side and he's. And he's not even.

[A]

He's pushing like a push shot.

[C]

It's. It is potentially one of the weirdest forms I've ever. Now sometimes in the course of play, he's trying to get it off quicker so he doesn't do it. But watch him. If you go to a game, watch him in warmups, he has this like. He reminds me of my grandfather shooting. Like my Grant said my grandfather was sometimes granny shot. But he takes the ball and he takes it like in a loop and then takes it up to like his right nipple. Is he left handed or right handed?

[A]

Left handed.

[C]

Left handed. So I guess it would be his left nipple. And then pushes it up in the air. It's a. And it goes way up in the air and comes down. It's a bizarre shot.

[D]

Well, we made a big deal out of it. But at the family day, everyone on the court was yelling for everybody to sag off and dare him to shoot. He ended up making it and he started taunting them. But we saw what his own teammates and coaches think of respecting him at the top of the key.

[A]

Yeah. The coaches were yelling at Marino, back off him. Back off him. And he hit the shot. You know, when he came in from.

[C]

Alabama, I think he shot like 43% from three legs. He didn't take a lot of them, but he. But still, maybe he's got to be wide open. Maybe. So who's next?

[B]

Elijah.

[C]

Elijah. Go ahead, Elijah.

[F]

Hey, how's it going, guys? I look, I'm from Lexington, born and raised. I even went to Clay. Go Devils. My thing is I'm just really disheartened after this loss because it kind of feels like, well, Louisville's already a bigger city. They have Churchill down. They're kind of like our big brother. And I was really.

[C]

They're not our big brother. First of all, you're all right. So now we're doing. What happened last night. Okay. Last night, a guy called in, and he tried. Hang on. If you want to finish this conversation, you're gonna stop talking for a second. Last night, I got called in to the postgame show. First of all, he called me Maddie Bangs to start, and I. That's what Louisville fans used to call me back in the day when my hair was down to my eyebrows. So I knew initially, I was skeptical. And then he accidentally said, we talking about Louisville? And then he still tried to say mispronounce it. And then when he got to Jalen Lowe, he called him Jolin Lou. And I was like, you are not a Kentucky fan. And I caught him. You are giving Louisville fan vibes. Nobody. No Kentucky fan. No Kentucky fan would call Louisville. No Kentucky fan would call the city of Louisville and Louisville big brother. No one would do that.

[F]

No, look, I. I grew up right by Veterans park elementary, brother. I'm a Caps fan. I'm just saying it's so disheartening when we lose like this because they have more popular. It's. It's right. Can I be upset about that?

[C]

You can be upset, but you can never say Louisville's our big brother. Do you understand that?

[F]

Well. Well, let me just ask one question. I just. It's kind of disheartening when they've won a national championship more recently.

[C]

So you're a Louisville fan. I appreciate the call. You're a Louisville fan.

[D]

The fact that you acknowledge their name.

[C]

I was a Louisville fan. You. You called him big brother, and you acknowledged their vacated national championship. You are a Louisville fan.

[B]

And.

[C]

And I've caught you, and I'm now 2 for 2 on catching Louisville fans during the show. Don't think you can pull that stuff on me.

[A]

You can sniff them out. You got it. A fifth sense.

[C]

You can sniff out smell Louisville fans and Republicans who are just trying to hurt me. I can. I can smell them. The Republicans who are not. I'm fans with those people. But I.

[A]

When he grew up by a veterans park, and he went to.

[C]

Well, if he grew up by. Where's veterans park?

[D]

Oh, great disc golf over here.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

You highly recommend it.

[C]

You can grow up in Lexington and be a Louisville fan. Mario Hiderson. Yeah.

[B]

I saw a guy walking down the streets of Lexington with the Louisville sweatshirt on the other day. I didn't know they existed.

[C]

It is rare to see a Louisville sweatshirt in the city of Lexington.

[D]

Yeah, he also. Kentucky fans right now, obviously, we're very upset. We're eating our crow. But we all know that the series still belongs to us there. They have kids that have gone through school, may even have graduate degrees that didn't see a Louisville win. So it's. In no scenario do we think they're a big brother. That hurt last night. And we have to listen for a little while.

[C]

What's the overall change, the rivalry, overall thing? 31:14 or something like that. But even since the restart, it's like 31 14. Like, I don't want to hear, you know, they won. It's nice. They, as Drew had pointed out, they'd only won two games since 2009. That. That count? So they won't. Good for them. They should celebrate. Somebody was asking, I work with Louisville fans. What's that? You just got to eat it. You got to eat it. Like, that's the way it goes. They, you know. But that don't give me any big pronouncements about it.

[A]

I feel bad about all those folks. We were at our show yesterday at Beer knows they have to live with that now for the next couple days. Well, next couple months. Those folks that live in Louisville are Kentucky fans.

[D]

That's all right. Think of all the years they live with dominating. We can handle a little dip.

[C]

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[A]

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[C]

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[D]

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[C]

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[A]

I did, yeah. It's a magical fifth sense.

[C]

Yeah. I think it's sixth sense because you have five. What is it? Seeing, tasting, smell, hearing, touch, touch. And then the sixth would be. You said I only had five. So you're impressed. I can smell I am very impressed.

[A]

You can smell out of Henry Clay alumnus.

[C]

Now, you did say you could, say.

[D]

Sniff him out, and he said you have a fifth sense.

[C]

That's true. Now, some people are making a point. First of all, one person says, matt, I've gone to Henry Clay for high school. I know tons of people go to Henry Clay. Nobody calls it Clay. He did not go to Henry Clay. If he called it Clay, we would never do that.

[A]

I want to keep. If he lives out in Veterans Park. That's not the Henry Clay district.

[C]

That's what another person says. Maddie says he lives in Veterans Park. Veterans park is districted. Tate's Creek, not Henry Clay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Told you. Don't fool me. You don't fool me.

[A]

You know, Henry Clay's building a new school. They're going to tear that old one down, build a new one. So the baseball team has to play it like a Legends ballpark all year next year. I don't know what this, by the.

[C]

Way, that's a classic Ryan Lemon. You are not like how Ryan Lemon. That is. He goes, henry Clay's building a new school. Think about all the things you could say about that. Ryan goes, the baseball team's going to have to play at Legends.

[A]

Yeah. Never have, like, they.

[D]

Like.

[C]

Not the school, not where it's going to be, what it's going to look like. You're. You care that for one year the baseball team might have to play at Legends Field?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Do they even have a good baseball team?

[A]

Oh, yeah. Really good.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. No home game. What if it's your senior year, you don't have a home. Senior Day.

[B]

I would say playing at Legends Field would be pretty cool.

[A]

It is pretty cool.

[D]

I don't feel bad.

[B]

Even cooler than playing.

[C]

I think it might. Yeah, it might be. Might be cooler than playing at Clay.

[B]

Phil, it's not even a stadium. It's just a field.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Play my senior games at Slugger Field.

[A]

Oh, it's horrible.

[C]

Oh, no. How unfair is that? Yeah. One person writes, Matt, it's the first time since Mark Pope's been here, I feel like he didn't have an answer. I think he'll get there. But I've also never heard him more despondent on the postgame show. I don't know if you all heard the postgame show. Very unlike him. Short answers. Very, very short answers. Billy came on and said, we have four segments left until the show. We kind of. I. When he says four segments, I usually know that means 20 minutes because three of the last segments are pope. So I'm like, 20 minutes. It ended up being like 12 minutes because pope only talked for, like, two minutes each segment. I've never heard him be that short. Was surprising, which also kind of shows that I don't know if he was upset, sad, whatever, but it was just a different thing for him.

[D]

Now, when he got here, I heard some buzz from BYU that you're gonna like. Popey's great, but when they suffer a bad loss, he's, like, inconsolable and doesn't handle it well and doesn't have answers right away. But we saw that at Ole Miss last year and then a little bit last night. I'm with you. I'm sitting there recording because I have to transcribe what he says.

[F]

And that was.

[D]

Took me just a couple minutes to write that out because he didn't have a lot of words.

[C]

If you listen to my Interrupted by Matt Jones podcast with Jeff Goodman, which is the latest episode, we're Drew and I'll be doing a news episode today. But our latest episode, I interviewed Jeff, and he talks about that. Jeff said, mark's the nicest guy in the world, but you do not want to be around him after they lose. That was. And Jeff, I think, knows Mark very, very well.

[A]

That's when he threw out dumb effort a couple times. You could tell. Just. I've never heard him talk like that. The tone in his voice and the words he was using was obviously, he wanted to get that over as soon as possible and get the heck out of there.

[D]

That might be a weakness for him, but also shows how much he knows that Louisville game means and how bad he wants to win it, that he's just completely shocked and beside himself when it's over.

[A]

He was mad the way they played.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Who's up next?

[B]

Jordan.

[C]

Jordan. Go ahead, Jordan.

[F]

All right, Matt. I got a few things I just want to say quickly, and then I'll get off and let you guys go, but I'll take it away. In 99 collegiate basketball games, has shot five threes three times. Last night, he shot six. He shot 16%, one for six. There was numerous NBA scouts in there over the summer. What did scouts tell him he needed.

[E]

To work on his shooting?

[F]

He. He shot the ball when he's not a shooter. He shot the ball last night, missed a lot of shots at the team's experience. It clearly looked like he was playing selfish basketball for his draft stock, which is a complete opposite of what Mark Pope preaches, which is selfless basketball. Play for the name on the front of the jersey. And it was just.

[C]

That's an interesting point. I mean, it's an interesting point about. With the NBA scouts there. I mean, there were a lot of NBA scouts. I think a lot of people wanted to see Mikhail Brown, probably Malachi, you know, and I'm sure always part of that. And this was his chance. And maybe he felt like he needed to shoot more threes. That's an interesting stat. Play 100 college games, you only shoot five threes. Three times. One of them was last night. Last night. I'd be interested to see how many times the team's won the games where he's done that, because I just don't think. And I appreciate the call. I just don't think Drew, that's his strength. I don't think that's what. That's not where his money will be made, in my opinion.

[D]

And we know when he went to get his feedback. They say you have to work on that. But this is our Kentucky basketball season, not your training camp. So sure, we'd like for you to have a better shot, but that's not the priority.

[C]

I mean, what happens if you play another game, Ryan, and it's the end of the game and the smart thing to do is keep diabate and away on the bench. I mean, I guess you can say, you know, it'll happen because they did it last night. So, I mean, you know, if you'd.

[A]

Asked me that before the season started, I said that will not happen. You have to have those two guys on the floor in a late game situation. I told you, yoga girl's got it figured out. She said it was his hair, his haircut.

[C]

Well, he's not able to grow that those dreads back this, this quickly. It's going to take a while, maybe.

[A]

A little baby dreads to start that.

[C]

Well, you know, last year there was nobody that Pope. There was no one at the end of the game that Pope would not take out. If you think about it, even Jackson Robinson at the end of game sometimes wouldn't play like he would take guys out. So I think he'll do it again here. I mean, one of the good things about having Aberdeen is if you get more games where low at the ends take a bad shots, you'll just take him out and you'll. And you'll make Aberdeen the point guard. But I have to say I didn't see owe being out, but it was the right call because Chandler came in and hit like two threes immediately. When he did that, I Mean, I.

[D]

Felt bad but I was yelling at my tv, get him out of the game. Your preseason player of the year. But we also know what he's capable of. The Oklahoma games, you know, we all know the stats of his double digit games last year. It's just getting him back to that form and whatever's going on with him that just had him so lethargic last night.

[C]

Shannon, I did have one big fist pump.

[B]

Oh, you did?

[C]

Yeah. I mean once they took that big lead in the first half, I was like, well we're not going to win so I'm not going to get my emotions up. But there was a fist, but I was paste in my house. So we cut it to four and then Jalen Lowe got that jump ball and they in the ref pointed our way and they went to timeout and I fist pump fist.

[B]

At the stadium though, you left too soon. You weren't there for the comeback.

[C]

No, I didn't want to be. That's too nerve wracking. It's too nerve wracking. Like once they started going down, I'm in the Louisville Parent section with the Fruits with the freaking. The Fruits are over there with their sauerkraut and I can't, you know, I can't, I can't focus. So I needed to go first over.

[D]

There asking you where the podcast is.

[C]

There loyal listeners breaking zeut. And I'm like, you know, Einstein drive here foo. And it was like it was time for me to go. Who's next?

[B]

Let's go to Madison.

[C]

Madison, 40 seconds. Go ahead.

[E]

Oh, sorry. I need. I have two things. One, I wanted to know if Ryan knew that former U of A coach Marty Simmons is the head coach, Eastern Illinois.

[A]

I did know that.

[E]

Oh, you did?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And then two, two. What was Yalls opinion of the crowd? Do you think it was the six, the sixth player last night?

[C]

Oh, for sure. Especially early, especially in the first half. Now they got tense at the end, but in the first half that place was loud. I mean it was if you're talking road environments for a regular season game I've been to at Kentucky, I mean wasn't Indiana. I've been to a couple Auburn games that are pretty crazy, but it was probably next to be honest with you. So we'll take a break. Be right back. Ksr.

[D]

TJ Smith, personal injury attorney.

[A]

Call tj. He'll make him pay.

[B]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones now.

[C]

I love this song, Shannon, but that commercial is going to start being A lot.

[B]

Have they been planning, like, a whole. I think they played it, like, any.

[C]

Attention college football Saturday and then last.

[B]

Night, wearing it out for you.

[C]

Is it Starbucks? Is that what it is?

[D]

I don't know. My brain zones out.

[C]

I do love this song. I mean, I really do. But I don't want this to become one of those things that like it. They play it so much. I mean, this is not like, a legendary commercial, like, for all y'.

[D]

All.

[C]

Like, they got to be careful. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, that's your stinking hearts, Billy. They're just plain wrong. I mean, they play it 50 times.

[C]

A night, and I've offered to redo it. And they're like, we're good.

[D]

It gets the people going.

[C]

But. But this is a great song. What do you think happened to me? What do you think happened to these guys? You think they still play it?

[B]

I. I doubt it. I don't even know if they're still a band anymore. The Proclaimers.

[C]

Right?

[B]

The Proclaimers.

[D]

Proclaimers, yeah.

[A]

They're brothers.

[C]

Yeah. Who doesn't like this song?

[A]

This is a great guilty pleasure.

[C]

This would be a good song for us to sing on karaoke, Shannon, on our road trip.

[B]

Isn't KSR doing karaoke, like, tomorrow or something?

[C]

KSR is doing karaoke here tomorrow.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

KS Bar. Yes. Tomorrow night. They'll have karaoke here. So you could do it then.

[B]

Proclaimers are still on tour. You can go see them over.

[C]

I can't believe they're still on tour. They got to be, like, in their 70s, right?

[B]

60S, maybe. I don't know.

[D]

But you can see.

[C]

I mean, they have any other songs but this.

[B]

Well, they got other songs, and nobody knows them, though, because you.

[C]

If you went to see the Proclaimers, you'd just be like, just play 500 miles.

[A]

Right?

[D]

So I can go. I just. Just here for five minutes.

[C]

So. Okay, here's the question. Let's say you're a band and you're the Proclaim. You have this song. Where do you play it on your set?

[B]

The last song of the night is it.

[C]

You do your last song, you maybe will sit there the whole time waiting to hear this.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I constantly tease them with the first few seconds throughout the night, so let them know I got it. But then I just keep pushing it off.

[C]

Just a little.

[D]

Just a couple notes.

[C]

Just give it a little cheers. And then you're like, okay, I got a new one for you.

[D]

Just keep hanging on.

[C]

I would if you promised me that I could just hear that and Leave. I'd go see him here, but I don't want to be there for anything. But that's trying to get their tour.

[D]

Dates so we can.

[A]

I don't want to sit through the rest of their concert. Just play that one.

[B]

I don't think they're in the states.

[C]

They're all, you know, Drew and I are going to be. Drew and I. Billy and Mario are staying Saturday night in Erie, Pennsylvania.

[D]

Who up?

[C]

Anybody knows what. What's going on in Erie, Pennsylvania, let me know. Who up? Erie.

[D]

Well, AEW is what's going on.

[C]

It's true. We may not be there for that yet, but we're going to be in Erie, Pennsylvania.

[A]

Where were we? In Pennsylvania? Where we watched a game at that place called the Penalty.

[C]

Scranton.

[D]

Scranton.

[A]

Scranton.

[D]

Great time.

[C]

Scranton. We were at.

[A]

That was an awesome night.

[D]

I was betting on sports before we had draftkings. It was not a real sport. It was a virtual dog racing, wasn't it?

[C]

Or 8, 5, 9 2, 287. Let's talk just one second. About. About football. We are now projected by ESPN. Both of ESPN's bowl prognosticators have us going to the Liberty Bowl.

[A]

I'm not convinced they're going to win the football game against Louisville. So that gives us six wins. You got us winning after last night. I am convinced our football team will not let this fan base down. They'll win that game at Louisville.

[C]

Can I tell you what I did say to Vince Merrill yesterday?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

I mean, I was feeling a little chesty. I just said to him, you know y' all are losing in a few weeks, don't you? And he was like, oh, but come on. I'm like. I mean, I'm just telling you we're rolling. And I also said we would never lose to Cal.

[A]

We're trending up. They're trending down.

[C]

I didn't say that, but I was like, we'd never lose to Cal. And he just looked at me. But, you know, on our home field. That's right.

[D]

When's the last time they've won both? It's like decades.

[C]

Is it really?

[D]

Well, they didn't. I mean, they've only won the basketball game twice in recent history and they didn't win the football game that year. So you'd have to go way back.

[C]

I would think when they beat us the Billy year. They probably beat us in football that year because we had Joker right there.

[A]

Was that long stretch. Drew's right. Where whoever won the football game lost the basketball game a month Later. It was just. Yeah, just happened.

[D]

Oh, no. We got them in football three straight times from 07 to 09, so it's not those years either. Might have to go farther back.

[C]

Yeah, maybe so. Might have been a while. You're right.

[D]

We get even more confident in the Governor's Cup.

[C]

Yeah. Who's up next?

[B]

Let's go to Landon.

[C]

Landon. Go ahead, Landon.

[F]

Hey, Matt. I was at the game last night kind of horse and screaming from the upper level, but I just got two quick things. First off, Jaylo, and just about every game we play this year is going to be the quickest player on the floor with the basketball in his hands. No doubt.

[C]

Probably true.

[F]

He's got to learn to play off. He's got to learn to play off 2ft rather than 1ft because when he leaves his feet to make a pass in the air, it just, it makes me double.

[C]

Yeah, he. Twice. Once in the first half and once in the second half, jumped up to. To make a pass and then didn't have anywhere to go with it and turned it over. He. You cannot, he cannot do that. He jumps up and then like, I think he decides he's gonna, he's going to make his decision in the air and he, he, he's. You're right. He can't do that. Yeah.

[F]

And then second thing, and lastly, to start the second half, I think Ortega away really shot us out of the game. And then we come out underneath the 12 minute media and we go small and Colin Chandler like shoots us back into the game.

[C]

Totally agree.

[F]

Right around the five minute mark. Right around the five minute mark. Pope put Otaga in for Chandler and next possession, wide open corner, three for Otaga. He bricks it. So I mean, if that's Colin Chandler, I feel like we cut it to. I think it'd been four right then.

[C]

Yeah. And then Otaga fouled out and then Otega fouled out and we kind of had a. We had the right lineup again, I think understandably, and I appreciate the call. It's kind of like you remember in 2015, we would talk about should Cal put the Twins in at the end or Ulis and Booker. And sometimes people would argue Ulis and Booker. And you'd go, well, but the Twins won all those games. Like are. You've seen them do it at the end of games. Ortega want. I mean, he was our clutch player at the end of games last year. But I do wonder, Drew, if last night, maybe it should have been Chandler the whole way down the stretch.

[D]

Well, we all know my Thoughts on Chandler. And as president of the fan club, I have to throw out a stat. He has taken 21 threes, shooting 58% from three. We keep saying someone has to step.

[C]

Up 58% from three. Wow.

[D]

And. And that's not on a small sample size. I mean, he's taking a lot of shots and shooting 50.

[C]

But he's the first Kentucky player ever to make four threes in his first three games of a season.

[D]

First 12, 21.

[C]

No one's. No one's ever done that before.

[D]

So maybe he is the shooter. We keep saying Williams or Noah. Maybe it's just Chandler and he needs to play more.

[A]

Maybe it's the point where he. He has to be on the floor.

[C]

Yeah. You have our guy on Shannon.

[B]

I'm calling him right now.

[C]

That means he forgot.

[B]

No, I got it. I got it.

[C]

And call him.

[A]

Never doubt. Shannon. This.

[B]

You said halfway through the segment.

[E]

We still got time.

[C]

Okay. All right, well, while you're doing that, let's take one more. Okay.

[B]

Let's go to Pat.

[A]

Pat.

[C]

Go ahead, Pat.

[E]

Hey. Hey. I actually live in Charleston. I went to uk, but live in Charleston, South Carolina. So I watch Pat Kelsey.

[F]

Coach.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

He's. He's a great coach. He's very good. He took them to the tournament for the first time ever, two times in a row. So he.

[F]

We're gonna have to worry about UofL.

[E]

For a long time now. This isn't like it used to be, but simply, I didn't see my. I watched the whole entire game of my fiance last night. She knows nothing about sports. And she asked me two questions, and they're simple. She goes, you guys don't look like.

[F]

You know where you're going. I was like, I think we didn't.

[E]

And then she asked me. She's like, who's a Brown guy? Why don't you guys have a player like him?

[C]

Well, those are. That's a great question. Why don't you have someone as good as LeBron? That's a good question. We didn't. Listen, he's great. He's great. I appreciate the call. He's the best Louisville player since Donovan Mitchell, and he might end up being a better college player than even Donovan Mitchell was. Donovan obviously became a great pro, but he's great. Mikhail Brown is. You know, Louisville gotta. Got a star with him. No doubt. All right, we have on. Join us on the phone. Ryan, this is Gavin Colton. You may have heard me talk about the Irish announcer for UK Soccer, who. Who I really enjoyed listening to. When UK played their soccer game the other day. He's on. Gavin, how are you, sir?

[E]

You know, okay. Matt, how are you doing?

[C]

I'm doing great. Now, tell me, how does an Irishman end up calling UK soccer?

[E]

Well, you know, when I was in grad school, did a bit of coaching on the women for the women's soccer program with Dean Carrie, and, you know, just always thought there was, you know, they could do with another voice on here. So he just reached out, and on I came.

[C]

I mean, you. You just wrote them and said, hey, I can call these games. Yeah, well, that is. Yeah, I kind of love that. You know what? I'm listening. These games, you need. You need somebody who knows more about it.

[A]

I'm going to write the Indiana Pacers as soon as we're done.

[C]

That's great. How did you end up in Lexington?

[E]

Came to Lexington for grad school. Originally came over to Northern Kentucky, went to play soccer there at NKU and moved to Kansas for a little bit and came and got a second masters at uk and now I'm working at PCTC here in town.

[C]

So explain to me you. You were in Ireland and you came to play soccer for Northern Kentucky. How does that happen?

[E]

Yeah, I got a call from. From coach at nku, said he'd been out to see one of my games, you know, when I was, like, 17, I think the game had been abandoned after 20 minutes because of a brawl. He seemed to love that, offered me a full ride, moved over.

[C]

Wait a minute. Hang on, hang on just a second. A guy, the Northern Kentucky coach, watched a game of yours for 20 minutes, then the game was abandoned for a brawl, and he offered you a scholarship?

[E]

That's exactly how it went.

[A]

Wow, I love this story.

[C]

College soccer recruiting is a different animal, isn't it? So. So was that a. Was that a big change of, like, change of pace in life? You just all of a sudden show up at nku?

[E]

Yeah, totally different. I think I'd watch just the right amount of American Pie films. I think I was watching Blue Mountain State at the time. And so, you know, going to college in America sounded. Sounded very good to me.

[C]

You know, Gavin, you and I are gonna have to talk longer. Like, we're gonna have to have you back on. Let me ask Buffalo this weekend. Yeah. Let me ask you. Men's soccer team, real quick. Are they. I haven't followed it enough, but they're good. They're gonna make the tournament, right? Yes.

[E]

Yeah. All things going well, they'll be hitting the tournaments. All right, so that's what happens tonight.

[C]

They play tonight in the semifinals. That's in Lexington, correct?

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

7:00 clock and we play.

[C]

Is it Central Florida?

[E]

Yeah. UCF.

[C]

All right, so tell me, preview that game for us really quickly. The game is on at 7 on. On SEC Plus. You can watch it on the computer. Should. Should Kentucky be the favorite?

[E]

Yeah, they beat them earlier this season in a relatively tight game. Beat them three, two at the bell. You know, Kentucky all round is just really, really strong team, have lots of pieces all over the park. You know, unfortunately, the big, big trouble for Kentucky is going to be three players for ucf, and that's three French guys, it's Ebudor Ngobu, and it's a guy up top named Lillian Rico who just have a crazy flair. And if Kentucky can stop them, they'll create chances. What they can't do is what they did there last weekend against Coastal, which is sit back, enjoy possession, not really create any chances for themselves and say, well, we're at home. It feels a little bit easy to keep the ball and. And not really feel like you're going after the game.

[C]

The three Frenchmen gotta watch out for the three Frenchmen. Drew for Central floor. All right, so games at 7 o' clock tonight. Gavin, I want you to come back with me to preview the NCAA tournament once the brackets come out. And I also got to learn more about your experience at Northern.

[E]

All right, and that sounds good. On a shout out for the women's team that play on Saturday against the little sister Louisville. Hopefully they gonna get a W there.

[C]

They do play against the little sister Louisville. That's there though, isn't it?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

All right. Do you call the women's games too?

[E]

No, no, that's. That's Gretchen Mills, former player who I coach as well, who's maybe the best. The best left foot in Lexington.

[C]

The best left foot in Lexington. Well, Gavin, thank you for taking the time. We'll talk to you very soon.

[F]

Great.

[E]

Thanks, fellas.

[C]

Appreciate it. Like that guy.

[A]

Love that guy.

[C]

How do we not know that guy?

[D]

I'm changing the Colin Chandler fan club to the Gavin fan club. Pick fan. I want him to go on our road trip.

[C]

Is that how college soccer? Is that how the recruiting goes? You see a fight and go, I want that guy to come play.

[A]

I want the guy that's in the middle of that brawl who's fighting with the NKU jersey on.

[C]

I want you to just think you live in Ireland, you get a scholarship offer from Northern Kentucky and you just get on a plane and go to college there.

[D]

Well, he watched the American Pie movies first. Then he got on the plane.

[C]

I don't know what it's like at Northern Kentucky, but I feel like it's not like American Pie.

[A]

I think it's a little different.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

We need more of him.

[C]

We did. We need more.

[D]

I can't believe he's been over here this whole time.

[C]

We didn't even know. Yes. UK basketball season is obviously here. We know how it ends. Cats by 90. But while you're betting on blue, talk about your health. If you have a. Don't let a mole or spot on your face that's not healing, don't let it just sit there. The Kentucky Skin Cancer center has your back, your chest, your ears, your scalp, and every other spot where skin cancer likes to hide. It's in Owensboro, Bowling Green, Glasgow, Franklin and powderley. It's the Kentuckyskincancercenter.com call 270842. 1999. It's the Kentucky Skin Cancer center, where you're not just a patient, your family. Overall, I think Irish people collectively are the most fun people to be around. Wouldn't you agree with that? There's a lot of them here in Lexington. Because of horses.

[D]

Oh, yeah. I know several, and I've been to Ireland, and it was one of my favorite trips I've ever had. Love Ireland and Irish people.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If Gretchen Mills has the best left foot in town, who's got the best right foot?

[C]

Maybe him.

[A]

Maybe it is him.

[D]

Jacob Cowboy.

[C]

We'll take a break. Be right back. Final segment, sksr. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Gavin's a hit. People saying Gavin is the new Max.

[A]

He is the new Max. Very funny. Enjoyed that visit right there.

[C]

Yeah, we're gonna have to bring him in here one day. I like how he stayed. Came all the way over here. Just stays.

[D]

And I'm going to tune in to hear more of him on the. On the game.

[C]

And I love. Do you think we can write in and ask to be the announcer for sports?

[A]

I love that. This sends a note to Mitch Barhardt. Hey, I can do the men's soccer broadcast for you.

[C]

Done. All right. So, DraftKings, we'll make our Draft Kings pick of the night. You go to DraftKings. Use my promo code KSR BET5. You can win up to 200 in bonus pets and get three months of NFL League Pass. Use the code KSR is DraftKings sitting here. Not a lot of choices. So you know what? I'm going to Take.

[A]

What's that?

[C]

I'm going to take the game for from the BBN United Classic. Nichols plays Valpo. It's a pick them.

[A]

We've scotted both of them.

[C]

We've played them both. Nichols and Valpo. Pick them. Who you got, Drew?

[D]

I am going to take game.

[C]

Is that Valpo, by the way?

[D]

Yeah, I'm going to take Valpo. Nichols went and lost to Eastern Illinois. They are the the winless team in the BBN United tip off Classic. So I will say Valpo gives them a third loss in the event.

[A]

Yeah. Valpo wins this consolation game over Nichols by 10.

[C]

Shannon.

[B]

Yeah. Give me Valpo. I can't get behind Nichols.

[A]

They're terrible.

[C]

Don't. Nichols is going to turn into dimes tonight. They're going to go win a true road game in Valpo. It is the time for Nichols is the better team. They bring it. Valpo is not gonna be able to handle their athleticism. Give me Nichols.

[A]

What in the name of Homer Drew are you talking about? Valpo is going to win tonight.

[C]

All right, who's up next?

[B]

Let's go to Grayson.

[C]

Grayson. Go ahead, Grayson.

[F]

Hey, Matt. First time, long time.

[C]

Who was.

[F]

I just got two quick things. One, and this is a complaint going back even the last season, it feels like Mark Pope struggles to find the five that are going to be the most effective at any point during the game. And when he finally does, he rarely.

[E]

Keeps them on the floor.

[F]

Like first dead ball, first TV timeout, they come up to yank somebody. And it really seems like that's something that he's not going to change. That seems something analytical that he's going to stick by. And I think it's going to be a problem going forward. Like give all of Malachi Moreno or give all of Brandon Garrison's minutes to Malo at this point. And then number two, I think last night is like the official end of the Mark Pope sent from God can do no wrong honeymoon. Like at this point. Prove it.

[C]

I'm glad you brought that up and we may talk more about this tomorrow. I think. I think last night rhyme was the first time Mark Pope. That was like a welcome to now you're actually the honeymoon phase is over. Part of the Mark Pope experience. It's like he's. I mean, I still love the guy. I still like. I'm. It's. But I think for the first time you start to hear people go, okay, wait a minute. Questioning things. Right. Which is okay, that's gonna happen. But it feels like to me last night was the night that the honeymoon kind of ended. Do you agree? And now the true marriage starts.

[A]

I feel the same way. And you know he told you when he struggles he wants you to be. He wants you to criticize him. He deserves to be criticized. He was like you even said kind of out coached last night by a guy from our rival school. So it. There. There's like there's. That merits a little criticism.

[C]

Do you think there's. This is the start of now actual like you're living with somebody. It's not just honeymoon.

[D]

Yeah. Not just because last night's results or anything. I just think that's the case. It's year two.

[C]

We.

[D]

I mean the press conference and all that last April was fun beating Duke. It was all a great year one. But now I think people are going to be grade him a lot harder and I think the substitution patterns and rotations is a legitimate concern. Like he pulled Jasper against Valpo after he had a great run last night. Some questionable stuff and that that existed last season too.

[C]

That was my biggest criticism of him last year was. Was minutes. I didn't understand why we would play so many minutes. We'd always take the starters out and get the again. Now he found the group at the end but it did and he went with them.

[A]

Just took forever to get there.

[C]

Just took us forever to get there. And by that point we were down 20 kind of when we. When we got to the group we're gonna have to do that I think quicker but I do think that's. That's a. Probably a conversation. We'll have to more tomorrow. I do think the honeymoon kind of ended last night. All right. I'm hosting trivia tonight. Seven o', clock. Ryan's team is going to be here along with Paul. We will be back at this bar tomorrow for the show. And then where are we? Friday we're downtown at the Marriott Infinity bar. Marriott Infinity affinity bar. It's fancy.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

We'll see you later. It's been Kentucky Sports Radio.