2025-11-13- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – Hour 2

Episode Date: November 13, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones, Ryan Lemond, Drew Franklin, Shannon
Topic: Latest in University of Kentucky (UK) sports and wider sports culture, with tangents into college athletics trends, coaching, housing/economics, and “what ifs” in UK history.

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Episode Overview

Hour 2 of KSR continues the lively, loosely-structured blend of UK sports talk, college athletics analysis, lighthearted banter, and audience interaction. The hosts dissect major shifts in college football and basketball recruiting (especially around NIL money), discuss pressures and evolving roles for coaches, debate the merits and effects of 50-year mortgages, and crowd-source "what if" scenarios from UK’s sporting past.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Changing College Football Recruiting & Coaching (01:42–07:00)

• Stockpiling Talent in College Sports

  • Insight: Powerhouse programs like Alabama and Georgia can no longer hoard talent as easily due to NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) and transfer rules.
  • As a result, good players are more spread out, and jobs at less “blueblood” schools may become more appealing because expectations are lower, but resources are catching up.

• Comparing Coaching Expectations

  • Drew Franklin (03:42): “If I were [Lane] Kiffin, I would really consider staying [at Ole Miss] because... you’re in the playoff conversation every year. Their expectations aren’t nearly what they would be at other places.”

• The New Skillset for Coaches

  • The job of selling a program has turned into “how much can you pay?” rather than charisma or personal connection (05:12–05:48).
  • Shannon (05:12): “That’s what it’s come to… it’s not a recruiting pitch from your coaches… your accountant, your checkbook, how much money are you going to give me?”

• Old-School Recruiting Tactics

  • Anecdote: Barry Switzer (Oklahoma) used to have staff check recruits’ trash to find out what beer the dad liked, to help break the ice (06:06–07:08).
  • Ryan (06:51): “And that. That made him have a connection. That’s kind of brilliant, isn’t it?”

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2. Fans and Program Money Pressure (11:03–14:33)

• "The $22 Million" Narrative at UK Basketball

  • Callers and hosts discuss recurring fan/media references to Kentucky’s rumored $22 million basketball payroll and external/internal pressure this creates.
  • Shannon (11:56): “The game had just hit zero and it’s the first tweet I got. Was that about 22 million? It’s gonna be all season.”
  • Team spending on NIL deals is largely opaque; some programs (e.g., St. John’s, Michigan) may have spent even more than UK.

• Evaluating Success Amid Big Budgets

  • Drew Franklin (12:22): “If you’re still a good team and just don’t win the title… Now if you go like 500 and finish seventh in the SEC, then absolutely it should be talked about.”

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3. Housing & Economic Commentary: 50-Year Mortgages (16:08–18:42)

• Debate Over 50-Year Mortgages

  • The hosts riff on the recent idea floated for 50-year home mortgages.

  • General consensus: while it makes monthly payments easier, you repay vastly more than the home is worth and risk never truly owning the home.

  • Shannon (16:51): “It might help some more people get into a house. [But] ... you’re going to be spending three times more than [the house is] worth… looks like a good idea, but when you get in the weeds, horrible idea.”

  • Drew Franklin (17:31): “If you’re 25… you just basically signed up to rent from that bank.”

• Broader Housing Access Issues

  • Shortage of homes is the root problem, not mortgage terms (17:41).

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4. Generational Inequality & Politics (19:04–26:29)

• Age of First-Time Homebuyers

  • It’s now in the early 40s, due to economics, housing scarcity, and cost inflation (19:04–20:21).
  • Ryan Lemond (19:13): “...I feel bad for like this generation… You all have been, like, screwed by the boomers… The unemployment is high for people that age. The… job market with AI is going to be worse. Housing is [becoming] impossible to own.”

• Boomers’ Hold on Wealth & Power

  • Hosts vent about older generations enacting policies favoring themselves, staying in office for decades, and the difficulty for young people entering the middle class.

• Term Limits and Institutional Stagnation

  • Term limits are necessary for both politics and sports.

  • In sports, coaches and leaders often “go stale” after 10 years (26:10–28:07).

  • Drew Franklin (27:08): “…just that new excitement, changing things up, just hitting reset brings everybody in… I think programs need that every [ten years].”

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5. UK Sports ‘What If?’ Scenarios (29:37–33:41)

Lightning Round of Hypothetical UK History:

• What if Bill Parcells became UK’s football coach?

• What if Jodie Meeks stayed for the 2010 team?

  • Ryan Lemond (31:00): “…not only do we win a national championship, I think we beat the ever living blank out of every team we play…”

• What if Rick Pitino hadn’t left Kentucky?

• What if Calipari hadn’t “taken the air out of the ball” vs. Wisconsin (2015)?

  • Drew Franklin (33:04): “If we don’t take the air out of the ball and let Carl Towns continue to score at will against Wisconsin, we have the first 40–0 season and another banner.”

• What if the infamous NCAA “envelope” scandal hadn’t happened with Chris Mills/Sean Kemp?

• What if UK recruited/landed players like Dirk Nowitzki, Tracy McGrady, or Larry Bird?

• Other fun and rueful sliding-doors moments in program history, contributed by both the hosts and the audience.

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6. Additional Memorable Moments & Banter

• Shoe Roasting Segment (07:32–08:22)

  • Extended riff on Shannon’s use of Velcro shoes—“hand-me-downs” from his son.
  • Shannon (07:56): “I don’t care. They’re really comfortable. At my age, I don’t care what looks good.”

• Audience & Callers

  • Callers share personal interactions, vent about rival fan behavior, and participate in “what ifs.”
  • One apologizes for name-calling; another comments on being “showered with beer” at a UK/UofL basketball game.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

| Quote | Speaker | Timestamp | |-------|---------|-----------| | “It’s not a recruiting pitch from your coaches. It’s like Drew said, your accountant, your checkbook… That’s what it’s all about anymore.” | Shannon | 05:12 | | “If I were [Lane] Kiffin, I would really consider staying… their expectations aren’t nearly what they would be at other places.” | Drew Franklin | 03:42 | | “[Switzer] would send one of his staff to go in the back and go through their garbage to see what kind of beer the father drank.” | Ryan Lemond | 06:15 | | “Do you think that [having a huge payroll] puts more pressure on them?... It’s coming all year. We spent $22 million. Why aren’t we better?” | Ryan Lemond / Shannon | 11:56 | | “I feel bad for like this generation… You all have been, like, screwed by the boomers.” | Ryan Lemond | 19:13 | | “Just that new excitement, changing things up, just hitting reset brings everybody in… I think programs need that every [ten years].” | Drew Franklin | 27:08 | | “If we don’t take the air out of the ball… we have the first 40–0 season and another banner.” | Drew Franklin | 33:04 |

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 01:42–07:00: NIL’s effects on coaching, recruiting philosophies, and job expectations.
• 11:03–14:33: The "22 million" topic and its impact on fans’ and players’ psychology.
• 16:08–18:42: Pros, cons, and social impact of proposed 50-year mortgages.
• 19:04–20:21: Buying a first home: average age and generational inequality.
• 26:10–28:07: Why institutional stasis hurts both politics and sports programs.
• 29:37–33:41: “What if?” hypotheticals—UK sports alternate histories.

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Tone

Conversational, sharp, irreverent, yet informed; the hosts move between serious commentary about sports and society and jovial ribbing and personal anecdotes. Listeners new to the show will find a blend of Kentucky loyalty, skeptical takes on change, and high-energy fan engagement.

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Conclusion

Episode highlights included a frank discussion of how money is upending college sports recruiting, a reflection on the burnout point for coaches (and politicians), debate over homeownership trends, and a playful nostalgia trip imagining alternate UK sports legacies. The episode is essential listening for UK fans and anyone interested in college sports’ rapid evolution, with plenty of laughter and relatability even for those outside Big Blue Nation.

Transcript

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[Matt Jones]

Nmlsconsumeraccess.Org welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[Ryan Lemond]

Welcome back. It is hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Text machine 772-774-5254 got the South Laurel KSR Club here. One person writes in and says, tell Brie where's Brie?

[Shannon]

There's two of them.

[Ryan Lemond]

Where's. Where's Brie? Oh, it's one of you 2. 1. It says, I won't say the last name. Watch out, you're being monitored. And so I hope that's, I hope you're not, you're one of the teachers. You're not doing anything wrong. I can't, I can't see that being an issue.

[Drew Franklin]

She's doing the monitoring.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes, you're, you're doing the monitor. You are the monitor. All right. 859-280-2287. Let's talk for just a second about I going back to the, the Simmons thing. I heard an interesting comment yesterday that I actually kind of agree with but wanted your take on here was the premise. The premise was this, that in going forward in college football, it's a two part thing. Part one is Drew, Alabama's, Georgia's, etc. Can't keep as many great players because they want to go play somewhere else and make money. We've talked about that a lot. Right.

[Drew Franklin]

Can't just stockpile them up on your third string on the bench.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's what, what Chuck Klosterman then said I thought was interesting though, he said, so in a world where Alabama, Georgia, etc. Doesn't guarantee you a stockpile of talent, then as you're judging what is the best job, you might sit there and say, well, how reasonable are the fans? Because I'm going to be able to get players at any school now because I can go get the second string Georgia and Alabama guys. He was talking about it with Lane Kiffin, but basically he was saying that he wonders if going forward Ole Miss is not a better job than Florida and lsu because he says you can go win eight or nine games at Ole Miss, occasionally contend for the playoff, and they will say you're the greatest thing ever. You can go do the exact same thing at lsu, in Florida, and you will get fired. And nowadays it may not be as easy to do it at Ole Miss as it is at Florida, lsu, but it might be close because you can still pay the players, you can still go get guys. And he was like, I wonder if in the future the idea of having the old mission, having the LSU or the Florida job might not be what it was in the future. And I was of course thinking about that in the context of Kentucky or Indiana. Is that plausible?

[Drew Franklin]

Could be. I've thought that with Kiffin, if I were him, I would really consider staying because they're going to match the money. You're in the playoff conversation every year. Their expectations aren't nearly what they would be at other places. So I get it. I do worry on the, on the basketball end. You know, we're good with Pope now, but. Well, that just the way it applies to Alabama football with expectations in basketball.

[Ryan Lemond]

But I think the difference in basketball is a lot of these schools are not going to pay what we will in football. I think everyone's going to pay.

[Drew Franklin]

And you can't hoard talent in basketball and in bat.

[Ryan Lemond]

But in basketball I think there's only going to be a few schools that like go pedal to the metal. So I, I don't think it applies much. His, you know, his second thing was like there was a talent to being a coach for a long time. And part of that talent was charisma. Specifically, could. Did you have the charisma of walking into a guy's, a kid's house and convincing them to come that that was a talent that say Nick Saban had or John Caliperi had? And he was like, nowadays that talent may not even matter anymore. That used to be a huge part of what it was to be a coach, and now it's like, irrelevant now.

[Drew Franklin]

You just talk to the accountants.

[Ryan Lemond]

So, like, somebody. And we really like Vince Merrow, but that was one of his talents. You wonder, does that talent become less important? Ryan, in this age where it's like, well, you seem like a great guy, but how much am I going to make?

[Shannon]

That's what's come to. Don't you think, that it's not a recruiting pitch from your coaches. It's like Drew said, your accountant, your checkbook, how much money you going to give me? That's what it's all about anymore.

[Drew Franklin]

Remember Nick Saban said exactly that. He said, now when I go into houses, they say, what are you paying me? That's the conversation. That's big reason why he stepped away.

[Ryan Lemond]

So he was like, now almost being a good coach requires you to be a good general manager. To look at a guy and go, can I develop this guy? How good is he? Blah, blah, blah. Rather than being a salesperson and that these coaches that were great salespeople, that just may be a talent that just isn't helpful anymore.

[Drew Franklin]

I completely agree with that. Back before the money was just out in front and on the table, you had to go in there and be a salesman. You had to make the pitch of why your school was better than other places. But now when there's a dollar amount, that's usually going to win out over your lodge or your system or.

[Ryan Lemond]

I hadn't thought about it that explicitly, but it does make you wonder. And then the last thing, he told a story that I found fascinating. He said, shannon, you'll like this. That Barry Switzer, when he was the.

[Drew Franklin]

Coach of Oklahoma, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

When he would go recruit a kid, before he would go in their house, he would go in the back and go through the garbage of the family. He would sit. This is a true story, really. He would send. It might not be him, but he would send one of his staff to go in the back and go through their garbage to see what kind of beer the father drank.

[Caller]

Oh, wow.

[Ryan Lemond]

So that when he would come inside, if the father said, hey, would you like a beer? He'd be like, only if you got an Old Milwaukee. Because he would know exactly what the beer was.

[Drew Franklin]

What a trick.

[Ryan Lemond]

And that. That made him have a connection. That's kind of brilliant, isn't it?

[Matt Jones]

It's also really strange that your coach is just digging into your garbage.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. But you know what? See that working, though, right?

[Shannon]

It is absolutely brilliant. And that's why Vince Merrill was so great.

[Ryan Lemond]

You think he was digging through people's Garbage.

[Shannon]

No, but he could connect with the. The family, the people that he was, you know, recruiting their kid. He can make that connection. Caliperi was good at it.

[Ryan Lemond]

No, Cal Perry was great at it.

[Drew Franklin]

I like that move by Switzer. I bet so many dads fell for that. Like, he would leave.

[Shannon]

I would.

[Drew Franklin]

Mom would be talking about.

[Shannon]

I would. Absolutely. Yeah. Let's have a six pack. You and me, coach.

[Ryan Lemond]

And so if he had. If he liked your brand, that would have been what you like.

[Shannon]

That's where he's going.

[Ryan Lemond]

Speaking of brand, put your shoe up here on the table. What is this?

[Shannon]

That is a most comfortable shoe I've ever worn in my life, is what. I don't know. I'm sure what it is, but that's.

[Ryan Lemond]

The ugliest shoe I've ever seen in my life.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

What is the brand? First of all, it looks like it's made of Velcro.

[Shannon]

I think it is Velcro. Look at this.

[Ryan Lemond]

It. It is Velcro to slip on with those. You have the Velcro shoes.

[Matt Jones]

You're like a child.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

I don't care. They're really comfortable. At my age, I don't care what looks good.

[Ryan Lemond]

How do you have Nike? I didn't even know Nike made Velcro shoes.

[Shannon]

I didn't either.

[Ryan Lemond]

And did you tell me those are hand me downs from your son?

[Shannon]

Yeah, these are Gavin's. He left them at the house years ago, and I found them, so I'm starting to wear them. Free food, free shoes, free clothes.

[Matt Jones]

You live like a homeless person.

[Ryan Lemond]

You really do. You do, in some ways, live like a man that just whatever gets donated, you put on.

[Shannon]

I think you get to that age where, like, you really don't care. You just, like, I want to be.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do you ever think about caring for your. Your woman? Like, she's. She's, like, still a relatively new relationship. Do you still feel the need to, like, whiner and diner and maybe impress her?

[Shannon]

Well, but she's getting my age, too. We're both like. Let's just.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's a really nice thing to say about her.

[Matt Jones]

But look at all the money he's saving by not buying clothes.

[Shannon]

Amen.

[Matt Jones]

That money out and go shop.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, but it's not saving it. He's giving it to streamers for.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, $10 at a time.

[Drew Franklin]

Did you see that Gap wrote on Discord that he got shut down? By the way, your guy that you.

[Shannon]

Named Sports Live Reactions?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he wrote it was the day after.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, you. Oh, he got shut down.

[Drew Franklin]

There's a discord thread. Somebody sent me a screenshot where he.

[Ryan Lemond]

Said, is he mad at Ryan?

[Drew Franklin]

He didn't call Ryan by name, but he said he was shut down. It was the day after we talked about him.

[Ryan Lemond]

So you just got.

[Matt Jones]

Good job, Matt.

[Ryan Lemond]

First of all, it was not Matt I had. I didn't know any of it was you two. So you, the guy you gave $10 to, you got him shut down.

[Shannon]

Well, I'm glad I gave him 10 bucks. He's got something to eat.

[Ryan Lemond]

You're going to need him tomorrow. Because tomorrow it's a.

[Matt Jones]

We'll just do the Arabic stream.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's another computer game. So now you're going to. You're. We're back to tv.

[Shannon]

Is the football and Saturday pro?

[Ryan Lemond]

Saturday. That's right. Saturday is also a computer game.

[Shannon]

Yep.

[Ryan Lemond]

By the way, they do say the YouTube ESPN thing may be almost over. Said it could end by tomorrow.

[Shannon]

Did you see you get a 20.

[Ryan Lemond]

Credit from YouTube TV, but then you have to fill the thing out. Did you do that? Easy.

[Shannon]

Just. Just a couple clicks. It's easy.

[Ryan Lemond]

I did it. Did you do it?

[Drew Franklin]

I did it.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay, so you could. But make sure. Check your spam if you don't have it. If you have uttv, you got an email that says you get $20, but you have to opt into it to get it. Who's up next?

[Shannon]

Beasy.

[Ryan Lemond]

Beasy. Go ahead, Beasy.

[Caller]

Hey, guys. Well, I think it's safe to say I'm looking forward to your bowl game even more than a national championship and college football playoff.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's going to be. Listen, it's going to be brutal. I'm just going to go ahead and tell you, like, I'm going to try to make it fun, but. So when I thought I was going to have to do this last year I practiced on a game and it was not good. Objectively, I knew it wasn't good and. But I didn't practice again because. Because then they called me and said, we're not gonna have you do it now. They're like you're doing. We have to like, we have to go meet with the coaches. There's a pregame yoga we have to do.

[Shannon]

What?

[Drew Franklin]

What?

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm not kidding.

[Shannon]

Pregame yoga.

[Ryan Lemond]

So they have. As part of the New Orleans bowl festivities, they have yoga on the. On the Super Dome field. You're required and they want me and Myron to do it to create content. Me and Myron doing pre game yoga.

[Shannon]

Okay. Please take Mario with you.

[Ryan Lemond]

So apparently, no, apparently it's like us, the players and the coaches, we all do yoga.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm actually looking at their website called Yoga in the Dome.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yoga in the Dome. That's what it's called.

[Drew Franklin]

That'll be fun.

[Caller]

I've got. I've got your guy utensil down for sure. One more quick thing, Matt. So I was at the basketball game the other night and the amount of times we're going to have to hear 22 million. Yeah, we are leave a loss this season. Yeah, it's going to be ridiculous. It is. One quick thing. Ali Khalifa. I sure wish he was on our team, honestly, because, man, that guy can pass the ball. And tell me it doesn't remind you of Amari Williams a little bit. Appreciate it.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, he's not nearly as athletic as Lamar Amari, but he can pass it. He's a really good passer. We're gonna hear the 22 million, Ryan. Non stop, non stop. It's gonna. It's coming all year. We spent $22 million. Why aren't we better? Even our fans are doing it. It's not just the fans of the other teams.

[Shannon]

The game had just hit zero and it's the first tweet I got. Was that about 22 million? It's gonna be all season.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do you think that, like, should that be a thing?

[Drew Franklin]

No. I get why people are doing it, but just leave aside that it's cash. Kentucky has always had more advantages than other teams. We should have always had the better roster, yet we still occasionally lose games now. It's just they have money in their pocket.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do you think it puts more pressure on them that they. That they spent that money?

[Drew Franklin]

I think it only matters if you're, like, not good. I mean, if you're still a good team and just don't win the title. It's college basketball that happens. Now if you go like 500 and finish seventh in the SEC, then absolutely it should be talked about. But if you're in the conversation at the end of the year, I think that's enough.

[Ryan Lemond]

And I don't know that we spent $22 million. I mean, people just say it like it's fact. I'm not saying it's not true. I think we did probably spend more than. There are a couple teams I think spent more than us. I think St. John spent more than us. I think maybe Michigan spent more than us, but we're right there at the top. I don't know if it's 22 million or not, but the thing is, we don't know what everybody else spent. Like, there's no way to really compare. So I don't know. I mean, it matters to me. But again, to use your old quote, it's not my money, so what do I care?

[Drew Franklin]

I hadn't even thought about it unless I'm asked. But like, even if you yelled it against Louisville, I mean, OA was expensive. He played bad. Did you want Pope to not bring away.

[Ryan Lemond]

But we don't know what Louisville spent. I mean, I refuse. Louisville had to have spent a lot of money. I mean, you think Mikhail Brown came here for his health, Right? I mean, you know, the. The kid from Virginia, he left a really good school to come here. The kid from Xavier, he had offers from every school in the country and he went to Louisville. I mean, they had to have paid for those guys. There's no way they didn't.

[Shannon]

No way. And you know, like we've talked about before, our 22 million may include a three year plan, payout plan for somebody or a two year plan for somebody.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's true. You know, I mean, they may have said, all right, Colin Chandler, we're paying you, you know, $4 million over three years. We have no. Unless you tell me what everybody else paid. Like 22 million sounds like a lot, but what if Louisville paid 18, then is it really that big a difference?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, we've got a couple million coming back from ACL injury right now. And like I think about owe. He's the most expensive on the team. Everybody in the spring wanted Pope to bring OA back. You got to pay away what he wants. Got to bring him back. I already paid him. He brought him back. Played like crap. What do you want Pope to do? I mean, you want it?

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, I want.

[Drew Franklin]

Do you think he was expensive? That's what we got.

[Ryan Lemond]

What if he's not away? What happens then?

[Drew Franklin]

I think he'll figure it out.

[Ryan Lemond]

You do?

[Drew Franklin]

As long as he doesn't just keep trying to be a three point shooter. He needs to drive.

[Ryan Lemond]

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[Drew Franklin]

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[Ryan Lemond]

Four Clayton Croom things.

[Drew Franklin]

Wallet, keychain, computer pad.

[Shannon]

That's pretty cool.

[Ryan Lemond]

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[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, definitely. My favorite thing right now is telling people how close it is. It blows their minds. You think people like, that's gonna take forever?

[Ryan Lemond]

Seven and a half hours. Seven and a half hours. Feels like it's farther, but it's seven.

[Drew Franklin]

And a half hours closer than the beach.

[Shannon]

Your question last night about big league cities that we missed because we were, you know, you had parameters about what's close, what's not close.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

You blew my mind about some of them.

[Ryan Lemond]

Seven and a half hours to Buffalo in Erie, Pennsylvania. Who up Saturday night.

[Drew Franklin]

You ready, Mario?

[Ryan Lemond]

We're ready. Good. You got to get us a car, by the way. We'll take a break and be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-774-5254. One person writes. Matt, on your show with Drew and Billy yesterday, you said Ryan Lemon would have an opinion on something. I'd like you to ask him now on the show. It's a good question. Remember we talked about what would Ryan Lemon want to do?

[Drew Franklin]

I remember you saying it, but I can't remember the topic.

[Ryan Lemond]

So just so our terror, our terrible president. I'm just, I'm just kidding. No, he, he has an idea and we want to know, would Ryan Lemon like it? A 50 year mortgage. He wants to offer people Instead of a 30 year mortgage, they now could get a 50 year mortgage. Would Ryan Lemon support 50 year mortgages? Do you think that would be a good decision?

[Shannon]

I'm kind of just going to think this out loud.

[Ryan Lemond]

No, no, that's the best I want to. I think you thinking it out loud is the best way. Had you, had you heard this before?

[Shannon]

I've not heard this.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay. Yeah. Stocked mortgage.

[Shannon]

I would think that it might help some more people get into a house. I make it more affordable. But the long term, you're going to be spending three times more than you would than the house is worth. So on the outset, it maybe looks like a good idea, but when you get in the weeds, I think it's a horrible idea.

[Ryan Lemond]

Ryan Lemon, well done.

[Drew Franklin]

Thank you.

[Shannon]

Thank you very much.

[Ryan Lemond]

I was like we were saying yesterday, we thought you were the kind of person that might on paper think that was a good idea.

[Shannon]

Well, no, yeah, it looks that way, like, oh yeah, my payment's going to go down this well, I can afford that. Or then you look what you're paying in interest over 50 years, it's three times more than the house is worth.

[Ryan Lemond]

Drew made a point. You're basically just renting for life that way.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Because you're not, probably not buying a house before the age of 20. If you are, congratulations. So at that point, say you're 25. The term on that goes to your 75. You just basically signed up to rent from that bank.

[Ryan Lemond]

And it would also do the one like, the problem we have with housing in America is we don't have enough houses. So if you make it even easier now for people to buy houses, it's only gonna make that problem even worse in some ways. Like it's because until you increase supply, as long as the demand is the same, you're. You're still having the same issue of them being like unaffordable.

[Drew Franklin]

I just worry so many people are gonna get tricked by hearing it's 200amonth cheaper.

[Ryan Lemond]

And, well, I don't think they're gonna do it. Apparently. Apparently. Apparently other people in the administration kind of maybe talked him out of it.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, hey, let's not rob the American people.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

So car dealerships try to do that. They, you know, they say, well, if you give you a three year, four year, but we can stretch it out to a six year and your payment goes all the way down to this. When they're like, oh yeah, I can afford this brand new shiny toy now, this new car, I'm gonna do it.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm impressed.

[Drew Franklin]

You're like, well, they also brought up a 15 year car loan, which is, that's crazy.

[Ryan Lemond]

That, that's a 15 year car loan would be crazy. I'm impressed with your financial acumen by the way there.

[Shannon]

Like I said, I slept in a Sahali and Express.

[Ryan Lemond]

I wish you could get a different joke though, Shannon, for that, you know? Yeah, I wish. It just, it's been. How many years have you made that joke?

[Shannon]

Ever since they started doing those commercials.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

I just wish in 10 years.

[Shannon]

I have a question for you.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes. Yes, sir.

[Shannon]

I read something like, what do you think is the average age of first time home buyers now?

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, it's gone up, unfortunately. I want to say, did I read it was like mid to late 30s now like 41. See that 40s. I kind of, in all seriousness, I feel bad for like this generation, this generation right here and the people a little bit older than you. Guys, you all have been, like, screwed by the boomers. I mean, you really have. Like, you're. I mean, it's not your grandparents specifically, so, I mean, don't. Don't yell at them, but, like, the people a generation older than me are just making out like bandits. And it's this young generation that's really gonna. Gonna feel it because, I mean, the unemployment is high for people that age. The, you know, the job market with AI is going to be worse. Housing is. Become impossible to own a home for some people that age. And again, this is not meant to depress you all. I'm just saying, like, it is for this generation coming up. It's. It is going to be. I mean, it's gonna be much harder than it was for, like, our generation.

[Shannon]

That's why all these brand new apartment buildings are springing up all over town because these people can't afford a house. They got to live somewhere.

[Ryan Lemond]

So is that the age 41?

[Shannon]

It's like early 40s now. 41 and a half.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, I guess, you know. Yeah, but I mean, I don't know. You know, I don't know that there's a simple solution, but the, The. And the boomers just keep getting. Just keep getting more money and keep owning more things. And we change our tax system to make them pay less and less in taxes, which, of course, puts more and more of a burden on the people that are young and working and they're living longer and longer, which we want. And. And the retirement age is not raising. And so there's just a lot of factors that can. They're the ones in office because they won't quit. They won't, Any of them. I saw Maxine Waters is 87 years old, and they said today, she said, I'm running again.

[Shannon]

Wow.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do some, ma'. Am. Do something else.

[Shannon]

Enjoy retirement.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, like, you've been. She's been in office for 43 years. 43 years.

[Drew Franklin]

So she has the biggest list of accomplishments ever, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

Do something else.

[Matt Jones]

How many years?

[Ryan Lemond]

43 years. Who's up next? Shannon?

[Drew Franklin]

Russ.

[Ryan Lemond]

Russ. Go ahead, Russ.

[Caller]

Hey, guys. Greetings from Vandenberg County. Matt, I've got a hypothetical for you. Kentucky is playing for the national championship game in April and the Sunday before. The ESPN executives say, matt, we'd like for you to come up and do Sports center that night with Michael Eaves. Would you consider it?

[Ryan Lemond]

Sports Center? I mean, so you're asking me, would I miss the national championship to do SportsCenter? I mean, if you're asking Me? Well, I mean, I love Michael Eves, but that's like he, you know that if not. If they were saying, Matt, we want two Kentucky fans to do Sports center to make a Kentucky theme thing because Kentucky's playing in the national championship, then yes, I would do that. If it was. Just miss it. To do the 2am Sports center because we want you to try it. I might say, can we do a different day if it's the day of.

[Shannon]

The national championship, but if it's a broadcast, like. But if it was Kentucky Manning doing.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, for sure. But if it was Kentucky themed and they were like, look, Kentucky's playing a national championship. We want to have a Kentucky flavor. You and Michael are from Kentucky, then yes, of course I would do that. Right.

[Shannon]

You, Michael. Rex Chapman even talked about doing it one time, I think with Rex trying to do it.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, no, I mean there was a. Remember the year they did the hometown.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Announcing for the final four, I think what did Dave or Rob Bromley end up doing that. But I talked to them about doing that. I remember that it was, it was, it was Rex Chapman. But Rob and Rick, I had conversations with them about that. So yeah, that would be awesome. But if it was just like skip the national championship so you can go do like a random show, I would just say, hey, can we do it another time? You know?

[Caller]

And what's more embarrassing, what's more embarrassing, doing yoga in the Superdome or going to a gas station and buying a stone cold Steve Austin belt?

[Ryan Lemond]

The Steve Austin belt was pretty embarrassing. We'll be right back. KSR.

[Shannon]

TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call tj. He'll make him pay.

[Matt Jones]

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[Ryan Lemond]

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[Drew Franklin]

It's crazy. I think you should have to like log into Facebook and post something to prove that you're at least someone with.

[Ryan Lemond]

Like, you got to make it hard. You got to make it harder than Facebook. They have to log into Instagram. They have to be able to like you know, operate a phone.

[Drew Franklin]

I think about it's been five or six years, but when Zuckerberg was there, the Congress and the questions they were asking him were so dumb. I was like, do you all even live in the same world?

[Ryan Lemond]

Well now imagine them trying to understand AI.

[Drew Franklin]

That's what I mean.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean like they, they, they have to regulate this stuff that they don't know anything about. And the other thing is like, it's just like, like anybody who wants power for that long, something is wrong with you, right? Like something is wrong with you. Get a lit. Just. It drives me crazy. To me that should be something that's non partisan. We do not like we need. I don't understand how one person leads up. Mitch McConnell was the head of the Republicans in the senate for like 20 years. Nobody needs that, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Even if they're good. You just need new voices.

[Ryan Lemond]

20 years of a person being in charge. Nancy Pelosi was like that for the Democrats. Like get them out, new people, breath.

[Shannon]

Of fresh air to get some new ideas, a new voice, new, you know, story coming in. Same thing happens in sports a lot of times. You know, coaches kind of. We saw with Cal just time.

[Ryan Lemond]

What's the longest time a coach should be at a program? Do you think there is a. Because there are people who would argue like no coach should be in a program for more than X amount of years.

[Shannon]

Well, Buzz Williams, he's come out publicly and said it. It's to him it's six. And he always leaves before that.

[Ryan Lemond]

Six year after that.

[Shannon]

Six year.

[Ryan Lemond]

Six seems a little short.

[Drew Franklin]

That's pretty quick.

[Shannon]

I'm more like I'm about 10. 10 seems to be about the right amount. They kind of need to make a change.

[Ryan Lemond]

I kind of think if you look at Cal and if you look at Stoops, even if you look at Tubby, you could kind of make an argument. 10 is the number I mean you could kind of make an argument that things started to go downhill for those guys at 10. Tubby left after 10, right? Am I correct about that?

[Shannon]

Yeah, it was 10 or 11 and.

[Ryan Lemond]

It seemed like the right time. I think if he had kept going, it was going to get worse.

[Shannon]

Joe B. I think was the exact same. I think he was right at 10 or 11.

[Ryan Lemond]

So I kind of think Drew 10 might be the number.

[Drew Franklin]

And even if you like them, sometimes just that new excitement, changing things up, just hitting reset brings everybody in. You know, people were kind of done with Cal, but moments like that, Pope coming in and just new phrases, new systems, new players. I think programs need that every.

[Ryan Lemond]

And then when there are exceptions, like take Nick Saban, if I'm correct, he basically restarted his career at 10. That was when he kind of hit the reset button, did the Lane Kiffin thing and it was like, all right, we're going to start over now at 10. Maybe that's what you have to do.

[Shannon]

Are we giving the Mark Stoops detractors a little more ammunition for their argument?

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't think their argument has been wrong. The question for me, I said this before the season started is is Mark Stoops ready to hit the reset button or is he going to continue doing the, the same thing? And, and so far the answer has been no. Let's see how the season ends. But yes, Mark Stoops started declining at 10 years. I mean all these guys, it feels like the number is 10 years.

[Drew Franklin]

It's not that they're just going through the motions, but it, it can get stale if it's just the same thing every season and it's not something spectacular like a Nick Saban or Coach K. The guys that have had the big.

[Ryan Lemond]

Long, I mean there's a reason why the, the, the we had a constitutional amendment about not having presidents more than two terms is. FDR was like most people believe a really great president, but then in the last term there was some thought that they're like started to be some corruption, there started be to be some slippage and then it was like, okay, maybe we should, maybe we don't need 4 of people. I think the same thing can be true with coaches. And if you, you know, he used to have that but it was an age based thing. It was not a, it was not a year forced.

[Shannon]

RuPaul was the age thing.

[Ryan Lemond]

Who's next?

[Matt Jones]

Tyler.

[Ryan Lemond]

Tyler, Go ahead, Tyler.

[Caller]

It's crazy that some of these politicians could have paid off their 50 year.

[Ryan Lemond]

Mortgages just in the time while they've been in office. Yeah.

[Caller]

Speaking back on the podcast too, last night, really quick Drew's comment or subtle about Trump calling Lauren Boebert and asking if she want to go to play.

[Ryan Lemond]

That was. I went back and listened. For people who haven't heard that's a top 10 drew line. Just because it came out of nowhere and I'm not going to step on it. But the way he set it up, you're right. When I was listening last night, it made me laugh more than it should have. That was a thank you to both of you. In many years of doing shows with Drew, that was a top 10 drew line. But go ahead.

[Caller]

Yeah.

So hey, going to an ask anything question. Changing gears a little bit. I was curious what some of your all's biggest what ifs in UK sports would be. And I'm not talking about like the ones that are everyone's, like what if Alex Porthos didn't get hurt in 2025 or 2015? But like what personal ones like mine for example is what if Mark Pope had been able to coach the last Cal team?

[Ryan Lemond]

Because I think I would have cooked.

[Caller]

And that was the perfect team for Pope system and it was a little bit unfortunate that we just maybe didn't have the right coach for that group.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think just for entertainment purposes. I appreciate the call. What if Bill Parcells had taken the job? What would have happened? Would we have had a Bill Belichick situation at North Carolina? Would he have started dating a 24 year old girl and we would have done with that. But what if Bill Parcells had taken that job because it was very close to happen. Rich Brooks did a really good job. But like would it have been crazy? Would it have been a circus? What? That that to me was an interesting what if of UK sports definitely.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know if he would have taken us to new heights, but it probably would have been good. I don't know that it would have been the Belichick experience with what Parcells was in that moment, what we were in that moment. I think it would have worked out and been fun.

[Ryan Lemond]

What if Jody Meeks had stayed? I mean if Jody Meek stays, is that 2010 team, the best team of.

[Shannon]

All time could have been.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean I think you could make an argument that if Jody Meek stays, not only do we win a national championship, I think we beat the ever living blank out of every team we play. I mean we could have seen. We could have seen the best team of all time. Right.

[Shannon]

And you may get a year or two out of Eric Bledsoe. I may have forced him. He wouldn't got as many minutes. He may have come back for a second year.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do you have any.

[Drew Franklin]

Bledsoe would have played a lot like Darnell Dotson's minutes. He wouldn't have been on the team. He was the shooter allegedly on that team.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, I can't. How do you guard a team with Wall, Bledsoe, Meeks, Patterson and Cousins?

[Drew Franklin]

You don't.

[Ryan Lemond]

You don't.

[Drew Franklin]

Good night.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, forget it. That's a team of just. That's a team of five guys who were really good NBA players on the court together. I. Has that ever even happened? Has there ever been a college team that had five dudes on the court at the same time that were all good NBA players?

[Shannon]

Wow.

[Ryan Lemond]

Ever. I don't know if there's ever been a team like.

[Shannon]

Because even the fab five couples guys didn't.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, they didn't make it. The UNLV team had a couple guys didn't make it. So that would be my idea.

[Drew Franklin]

The fit of the 2010 team while driving with them, leaving Meeks open on the perimeter.

[Ryan Lemond]

That would have just been. That would have been unfair. Fair. Good. What do you think?

[Shannon]

You know, I. I'm a huge Tubby fan. I love Tubby Smith. But what if Patino had stayed?

[Ryan Lemond]

What? Patino had stayed?

[Shannon]

Yeah. We were the hottest thing going and we were rolling during that era.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do you think he would have kept the fire if he was in the same. I mean, part of what I think makes him is he takes these new challenges and because, you know, he stayed a long time at Louisville and it kind of fizzled out a little bit towards the end at Louisville. Do you think that would have happened?

[Shannon]

I don't know, man. Things were on a high when he walked. When he walked away and it was no slowing down inside it appeared.

[Ryan Lemond]

What do you think? Any. What's he got? A what if.

[Drew Franklin]

I have a what if. And it's not a wonder. I know it would happened. If we don't take the air out of the ball and let Carl Towns continue to score. It will against Wisconsin. We have the first 40. No season in another banner.

[Shannon]

Amen.

[Drew Franklin]

But he completely choked that game away.

[Shannon]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Ryan Lemond]

What if the envelope patent fallen out apart? That's a huge one because that was going to be a great team.

[Shannon]

Yeah. Put us on probation.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean they had. If you go back and look, they. Chris Mills and Eric Manual and Sean Kemp.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

But just the Sean Kemp thing. What if he didn't?

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, what if. What if all of that had come together for one year?

[Drew Franklin]

I've heard Richie in this bar, not on there, but just talking to his, telling stories of Sean Kemp and pickup games with those guys when he was on campus. They were just talking like he was an otherworldly basketball player they're so excited to have in the uniform. Just never happened.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. That's another. That's a good question. By the way, if people have 772-774-5254 any other what ifs, where is our show tomorrow?

[Shannon]

We're at the Infinity Sky Bar at the Marriott downtown Residence in Residence in.

[Ryan Lemond]

So if you go to the Residence Inn downtown, there's a Sky Bar, Infinity. We're going to be up there.

[Shannon]

Yep.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's apparently very nice.

[Shannon]

Very nice.

[Drew Franklin]

I'll pop in there onto your Z occasionally.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do you?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Good spot.

[Ryan Lemond]

So we will be there tomorrow occasionally on one of our very rare downtown shows. I can't remember us ever doing a downtown show.

[Shannon]

No, we've set up on the sidewalk a couple times, but never like at a place where the public can come downtown.

[Ryan Lemond]

So can you think, have we ever done a show in a remote downtown.

[Shannon]

That'S, that's open to the public?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know where it would have been.

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't know where it would have been. But come on out. It'll be fun. Parking's not bad. Everybody acts like parking's bad during the parking garage there. Yeah, it's not too bad. We'll take a break. Be right back. Final segment KSR at 10. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. This segment sponsored by the Kentucky State Chamber. You know, Kentucky, we are trying to make the state better and we're struggling to have access to things like housing. What I talked about earlier, the Kentucky Chamber is working with state government to try to make hack housing access better. You can learn more at Opportunity starts here. Opportunity starts with access to housing and childcare. Go to opportunity starts here.com time for our draft Kings pick of the night. The big game tonight, Purdue and Alabama. This is kind of Kentucky and Purdue again. This game is what at Alabama. Alabama's a 3 1/2 point favorite. We'll find out if Purdue was what they look like against us or if we were just really good in that game. You got Purdue or Alabama.

[Drew Franklin]

Definitely like Alabama to win. I was hoping it'd be like one or two points. Three and a half. A little higher But I'm still gonna bet it just that pace of play and what we saw against Purdue. Purdue was losing to Oakland last Thursday or Friday for, you know, right at halftime, if not at the half.

[Ryan Lemond]

Who loses to Oakland? Could you imagine, you imagine losing a game to Oakland? What kind of team would do that?

[Drew Franklin]

Fun Oakland Fact. They played number one Purdue last week and then played number one Houston. Houston this week. So they played number one back to back.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Houston beat him by a lot more than Purdue did.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

So you got, you got. I don't believe in Purdue, Shannon.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. With Kentucky, much like Alabama, we've already seen what happens. So I'm going to go Alabama. Especially with them being at home.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm going to go Alabama. You know, they'll have to. If they win this game, that's two huge wins to beat St. John's and Purdue to start the season. That would be great. I mean, Alabama might be really, really good again. Phylon is a great player.

[Shannon]

Yeah. He may be the best player in the conference.

[Ryan Lemond]

What do you have?

[Shannon]

Like we said, all you guys have said it. Purdue struggled with the tempo they placed at Kentucky. Kentucky plays a lot like Alabama. So I think Alabama runs them.

[Ryan Lemond]

You think they run them?

[Shannon]

Run them.

[Ryan Lemond]

There you go. What's the Thursday night game tonight?

[Matt Jones]

Jetson Patriots.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think maybe good thing it's not jets and Patriots. It's a good thing we're doing karaoke here tonight. I think if we. We were trying to get people out for the football. Come see jets and Patriots.

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe the jets will knock off the Patriots. They need to be humbled a little bit. Right now. They're acting like Drake May is the greatest thing of all time.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I don't like that. Well, some what ifs, what if. Let's see, what if Dirk Nowitzki had.

[Shannon]

Come here every was he had committed. He and they. We went to watch him play in an all star game. We were so convinced he was going to come here, went pro instead. May think he made the right decision.

[Drew Franklin]

It would have been fun watching him.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, we also. Tracy McGrady is another one that thought about doing that.

[Shannon]

Dick Vital went on the air and said McGrady has committed to Kentucky.

[Ryan Lemond]

How about what if Nerlands hadn't gotten hurt?

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Yep.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, we wouldn't have made the nit. I don't know if we would do it.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know how far.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, we might have been a Sweet 16 team or something like that. If Nerlens doesn't get hurt, Larry Bird.

[Drew Franklin]

Could have Been the small forward next to Kyle Macy and Jack Givens. He even said that recently on a podcast that he's headed to Kentucky.

[Ryan Lemond]

Larry Bird. Yeah. He said Joby Hall. He didn't think Joby hall wanted it.

[Shannon]

He said Kentucky stopped recruiting him.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Might not have been. That might have not been a good evaluation by Joby hall if he did not want Larry Bird.

[Drew Franklin]

I think he missed that one.

[Ryan Lemond]

One person writes, what if Eli Capilouto had not removed candidates for this job? Then probably Bruce Pearls, the coach here, and he probably is only the coach for, like, four years, never tries to.

[Drew Franklin]

Hand it off to Stephen. Oh, could you imagine that?

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, my God.

[Drew Franklin]

We would have had to get in front of that. We couldn't let that happen.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know what? Actually, that's an interesting point, because, I mean, if he had come here and then he tried to set it up for Stephen, that wouldn't have gone well.

[Shannon]

And we. That's exactly what would have happened.

[Ryan Lemond]

I also don't know if it would have gone well. You know, he. Right after he was in contention for this job, he started, like, speaking out about politics. And so I don't know if that would have worked here.

[Drew Franklin]

You know, he's very vocal.

[Ryan Lemond]

Very vocal. People kind of don't pay attention because it was at Auburn, but if it was at Kentucky magnifies, it would have magnified it. Who's up next?

[Matt Jones]

Joe.

[Ryan Lemond]

Joe. Go ahead, Joe.

[Caller]

Yeah, Matt. Yeah, I wanted to talk about the Louisville thing follows that. I want to first that Vandy quarterback. He's probably going over to U of L for pole dancing, I imagine.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, he was actually in Miami. People are telling me. So now I definitely know where those dollars were going, but. Yes.

[Caller]

Yeah. But the UofL fans, I've been to quite a few basketball games. I went to the one with Josh Harelson and Brandon Night.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Caller]

And we. We set way up. And anyway, a guy act like he stumbled and poured beer all over my wife, and my wife grabbed me to keep me from trying to take his head off. But anyway, and then this Tuesday night, when we was there, a guy was sitting beside me, said, oh, my God. He said, if we come back and win this game, we're gonna have to have eggs scored out of here.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. It would have been interesting if we had won. I mean, I. And we didn't. Obviously. I appreciate the call. But if we had won that game, I think that could have been a. Because you. You know, I wasn't even there for the second half, but you could almost, over the tv, feel The Louisville fans, you could feel them tensing up. That's why I wish Low had made those free throws because I think if it had been a one possession game, that place would have gotten really, really tense.

[Drew Franklin]

I did see at least one Kentucky person won in the center. Did you see the picture of the little fan that got his nose broken? There was blood everywhere in the concourse.

[Ryan Lemond]

A Kentucky fan hit a little.

[Drew Franklin]

Assuming you don't see who did it, I'm gonna assume it's gonna Kentucky. But there's a little fan whose nose was almost removed from his face.

[Ryan Lemond]

There's police.

[Drew Franklin]

There's just blood all over the concrete.

[Ryan Lemond]

Wow, that's interesting. I didn't see that.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, it was pretty, pretty ugly scene.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. By the way, it is cool that they did the thing honoring the UBS people.

[Shannon]

Oh, absolutely. It was. Yes. That affects our whole state.

[Ryan Lemond]

I, I, I, I talked to. This may have been in the news. I, I talked to Craig the, the mayor who said I want you to think about just a second. So the three people died that were on the plane, but the other 11 people that died were all in that auto parts place, including customers. And like half the store, they're just in an auto parts place, like working and buying auto parts and half the customers just die and the other half of the store walks out. Think about that rain.

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't know that detail.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, that's just Think about your life. Like you go to do something. If you go to do something today and you go into a store and like all of a sudden half the people die. Like, oh. And half the people don't like that. You want to talk about something to make you go, whoa. Life is fragile.

[Shannon]

Very fragile, very delicate. You know, at your time, just awful.

[Ryan Lemond]

Who's next?

[Matt Jones]

The truth.

[Ryan Lemond]

Truth. I got about a minute. Go ahead, man.

[Caller]

I'm sorry for calling, you idiot. Okay?

[Ryan Lemond]

It's okay. But you ruined your chance to go to the Kentucky Indiana game.

[Caller]

Well, guess what? It didn't work out. But I begged to go to the December 6th. I get to go see Loa and to the big team football championship with Ohio State Indiana. So everything worked out for my.

[Ryan Lemond]

You're going to the Louisville in. You're going to both games on the same day.

[Caller]

Yes. A guy from IU reached out to me and my wife. You know, he's paying for everything.

[Ryan Lemond]

I, that sounds good. Well, I hope you, I hope you enjoy that.

[Caller]

And another thing, you tell Nick Coffee I'm going to fight him when I see him.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay? I, I'll make sure to tell him you're going to fight him. I appreciate the call. Tomorrow we are at where Sky Bar.

[Shannon]

Residence in downtown to city City center at Infinity.

[Ryan Lemond]

By the way, free parking in the city Center.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Ryan Lemond]

So if you go, I guess you'll get your ticket validated or something. But if you want to park in the city center, it'll be free park. And the first 20 people get bourbon glass.

[Drew Franklin]

Top of the residence. In go to the residence.

[Ryan Lemond]

Top the residence. And thank you all very much. Thanks to South Laurel for making the trip up here today. Hope they enjoyed it. We'll see you tomorrow. It's been Kentucky Sports Radio.