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Josh Zeman
A decade ago I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers. But it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zieman and this is Monster Hunting the Long Island Serial Killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York since the Son of Sam. Available now Listen for free on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts wherever you get your podcasts.
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Robert Smith
I'm Robert Smith and this is Jacob Goldstein and we used to host a show called Planet Money.
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Jacob Goldstein
And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history.
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Robert Smith
And some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business.
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Jacob Goldstein
First episode, how Southwest Airlines used cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business.
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Robert Smith
The most Texas story ever.
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Jacob Goldstein
Let's listen to business history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Hari Kondabolu
On the podcast Health Stuff we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.
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Dr. Priyanka Wali
I'm Dr. Priyanka Wali, a double board certified physician.
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Hari Kondabolu
And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled Do I have scurvy at 3am and on our show we're talking about health in a different way. Like our episode where we look at.
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Dr. Priyanka Wali
Diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.
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Hari Kondabolu
How preventable is type 2?
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Dr. Priyanka Wali
Extremely. Listen to Health Stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Robert Smith
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Matt Jones
Welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.
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Shannon
Welcome back. I'm number two techie sports radio. It is 859-280-2287 here at in Orchard Park. You the text machine is 772-774-5254. A lot of people still saying nice things about you, Billy. One person says, you know, tell Billy I feel bad for him. I got the same treatment when I carried a plastic suitcase once. I know how it feels. Now, granted, that was a middle school trip in the 1990s, but I still get it.
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Matt Jones
Don't feel bad for me. I've got the best job in the world and this was a fun trip.
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Shannon
It's the attitude that is a good attitude. I wish Shannon had that attitude more. Have the best job in the world.
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Matt Jones
Wait till Billy's been in this thing for 21 years. It'll change.
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Shannon
Has it changed for Drew? Drew's always looks forward to these trips.
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Drew
It's actually probably my favorite.
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Shannon
There's been a lot. It's great.
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Drew
Yeah. I mean, it's much shorter, so it's easy to say that.
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Shannon
Yeah. But it's been a lot of fun. I mean, we've packed a lot into 48 hours.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Shannon
You know, I mean, we go home today and we'll be back home.
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Drew
You go home today. I haven't committed to that.
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Shannon
Are you going to stay here?
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Drew
I'm here.
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Shannon
Well, let's, let's talk about being in Buffalo for a second because you. You know, we not only did the stuff, we went to the game. First of all, I've been to two NFL games this year. They've both been two of the best games of the season. I mean, I was at Bears, Bengals. That was amazing. Then last night was amazing. Buffalo, Tampa Bay, back and forth, back and forth. 44, 32 A score, Gami, Josh, Allen, Baker Mayfield. It was excellent. It was a lot of fun. Cold. But. But an exciting crowd. I mean, that's. That was a great. That was a great environment. Great time.
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Drew
Yeah. You know how to pick your NFL games. And now, two for two. It was just a few weeks ago, on Cover zero, was talking about how it'd be a bucket list to go see the Bills, not knowing that that would happen just a few weeks later. So just being here and getting a taste of how that fan base is was incredible. They did not disappoint. I had the highest bar for them, and they jumped right over it.
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Matt Jones
Drew was really in his element during the tail. I wish he could have been there with us. I'm sure that came through on the videos. But just like going from tequila shot to Buffalo wing and making these videos, it was. It was a lot of fun.
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Shannon
Yes. I was doing espn, so I couldn't walk around the tailgates, but you could just. I mean, I could just sense all day that's one of the happier times I've seen Drew was that whole environment. I mean, I was trying to think there. I'm sure there have been other experiences like that, but, like, he just. You just seem like you were more sort of happy and thrilled in this Buffalo Bills place than most anyone.
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Drew
I'm a tailgater. I don't get to tailgate much anymore. And then you're going to send me to one of the best tailgates in the country. Yeah. I honestly wish I could have done more. The worst part of the whole thing is what most people would kill to do. When I was in that press box, the free food's nice, but. But it's snowing, and Bill's fans are going crazy, and it's silent in there, and I'm sitting next to Billy with his dress shoes. I was like, guys, I gotta get out there. And I went to the top row.
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Shannon
And you met somebody from Louisville. Right.
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Drew
Actually, this is an example of Bill's fans. Not only do they just say, hey, come to our tailgate. Eat our food. I mean, you can walk up to any tailgate and they will give you a hug and just say, eat Our blue cheese. I'm just walking around. I think people noticed that I was lingering, and they're just like, hey, man, you want to sit down? And they just slid in, and I just sit in their row. And then it turns out one of them's from Louisville, but they had a cool story. Their dad was moved here from Syria and learned football as a in Buffalo. And then now they live in all parts of the country, and they brought their grandkids and brought him back for another game. So they had, like, this whole family experience. And here I am sitting with them and cheering for the Bills.
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Shannon
Yeah, everybody is, like, so nice. I mean, and Kentucky people are nice, too. Like, I mean, most people who come to Kentucky for the first time, they're like, oh, they're nice. You know, you get this sort of stereotype, though, of people in New York. Buffalo is in New York, and people are where extreme are extremely. They're just extremely nice. I mean, people at the tailgates, at the games, even the media folks are nice. There were a couple women at the bar last night in their mid to late 50s, trying to take Mario home. Nice. Like, there's, like, there's. I mean, that was a different kind of nice, but, like, there. There's. It's just a lot of fun.
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Drew
I will say, though, after the game, once their booze has kicked in, some of them start to show they're not so nice.
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Shannon
What? A couple people were just yelling at Billy about his shoes on our walk home.
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Matt Jones
Oh, really? Yeah.
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Shannon
So, yeah, they were just yelling. Where'd you get those shoes? Peacock guys in the trench coat.
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Drew
It was like, man, someone yelled from a school bus about Billy's trench coat. We're just walking by in the dark. I couldn't believe they even saw.
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Shannon
What's funny is they're not even KSR listeners.
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Matt Jones
People.
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Shannon
There's something about your face that just makes people want to give you a hard time.
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Matt Jones
I'm all business. So I guess that's. That didn't vibe with some people in Bill's mafia, but, you know, Drew was in the press box, and every time Buffalo have a big play, they'd start high fiving Drew through the glass. Yeah, that's how out of place.
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Shannon
So let's talk about the wings for a sec, because everybody always wants to know about the wings when you come to Buffalo. So here's my take on the wings. All right, so, like, in Kentucky, what wings means depends on the type of place because people cook them differently. So, like at KS Bar, we smoke them. There Aren't a lot of places that smoke them in Kentucky. It makes it taste different. I love it. It's my favorite kind, but it's. And it's a longer process. So then you go like a place. I'm trying think other places I like that are good. Like the Kentucky Wing King place you took me to over there in Grey Line. They like deep fried. Different kind of taste. Also really good. So I like both of those. What's the place up in Northern Kentucky we go. That does the double thing.
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Drew
Barley corns.
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Shannon
But barley corn.
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Drew
Great blue cheese, by the way.
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Shannon
By the way, I think those for me are the three best wing places in Kentucky. You go us the Wing King guy and barley corns. But there are three different ways to cook it. What I've learned in Buffalo is when they say wings, there's only one way they're talking about. They're just talking about frying it once. But not the way we. Not breading it. Like we do. Like we do like Wing King does. Just frying it. Remember we tried to do that at our little wing thing and we didn't. We couldn't do it very well. It didn't turn out very good. So they don't even consider a different way. And it's everywhere tastes the same. But it's good because it's like everybody. It's almost like everybody in Buffalo gets taught there's only one way to make a wing and this is the way you're gonna do it.
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Matt Jones
It's the opposite of Ryan Lemon. Because consistent.
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Shannon
It's very consistent. But like if you come from Kentucky, you may not like. It's. It's not like in Lex where there are so many different. It's one thing. This is what a buffalo wing is. And you can't ask Shannon for ranch. They don't have it. Oh, they just give you blue cheese. That's your only choice because they think that's the only thing you should eat it with.
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Matt Jones
As somebody that didn't like blue cheese, I loved the blue cheese that I had on this trip. So it converted me. See, I always go for ranch. I'm always a ranch guy.
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Shannon
You won't get it here. They will not. They will not give it to you. Yeah, they will not. This is so for them, ordering wings is one thing, one condiment. There are no other choices, which I find kind of interesting.
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Drew
And when we were tailgating, we spent so long looking for Pinto. Ron, that famous fan, I mean, he's got his own Wikipedia page.
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Shannon
Yeah.
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Drew
And I finally found Him. And I'm interviewing, and in the interview, I said, ranch. The man, like, his face changed and he gave me this look. I had to apologize. I panicked. I'm like, I knew better. I'm sorry. I'm a rookie.
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Shannon
They won't do it.
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Drew
Like, we don't say ranch.
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Shannon
They won't do it. And I had at least a couple wings in like four. Four different locations. And they were all exactly the same, and they were all very good.
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Drew
We ate wings that were fried in a World War II helmet at Ron Pinto. Ron's tailgate.
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Shannon
That's really strange. I don't think that's what people thought they were doing in World War II, was gonna have their helmets with wings.
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Matt Jones
Well, we talked about this on Cover Zero. There was a filing cabinet. They grilled meat in the World War II helmet in wings. Like, it was like anything but grills.
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Shannon
And this. And this stadium is in a neighborhood. And I don't mean that like, theoretically. I mean, it is in a neighborhood. There are just houses across the street. It's a two lane road, right? So. So getting in and out is. Is brutal, but it's a two lane road. There's just like. It's just in a neighborhood. That's weird. I can't think of any. Green Bay's got that a little bit. But Green Bay also has, like, a convention center, and it's got a shop. Like, there's a lot of stuff around it. And in Buffalo, this is just a neighborhood and there's nothing around it except a handful of bars.
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Matt Jones
Yep. And everything worked out at the bar you did the pregame show at, right?
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Shannon
Yeah. That was good. It's just, I would say this. If you love football, you got to come here. Once I thought that I would say the best NFL experience is Green Bay, but I kind of think, Drew, this might be better. I mean, Green Bay is good. I've been to, like, 11 stadiums, and Green Bay would be second, but I kind of think this is first.
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Drew
Yeah, it's. It's first for me. It's not even close. In fact, when we get home, Titans, we got to talk.
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Shannon
So are you dropping the.
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Drew
No, I can't. I'm too loyal. I'll never drop them. I don't have that personality trait to abandon them. But I will say I had more fun at this Bills game than any Titans game I've ever been to. And I've really many, and I've been to big ones. I've even went to Bills, Titans Monday Night Football in Nashville and yelled At Bill's fans. So they gave me a football experience. I've never.
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Shannon
So you're contemplating a trip.
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Drew
I'll never truly lead them, leave them, but I will. I am a Bills fan. Like, if the Bills are playing the Chiefs, that used to be a neutral game for me. I will be cheering for the Bills in any game from moving forward.
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Matt Jones
Didn't they break up with you? Like, they sent you an email?
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Drew
The Titans did break up with me. We're going through it a little bit. They need. They got some things to figure out, but I'm too loyal to leave them. But I am a. I have added the Bills to my fandom.
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Shannon
I also would say it was cool to see all the Kentucky guys here. Right. You had Ray Davis, Maxwell Harrison, Dion Walker. We talked to all of them after the game. Dion's a little quieter. But Ray Davis and Maxwell Harrison couldn't have been nicer to us. Right. I mean, Dion was nice, too, but Ray and Maxwell. Ray took a picture with us on the field. Maxwell and his family. His family was like, ksr. Like, they were excited. That was neat to see all these Kentucky guys up here.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Going into the locker room was cool.
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Shannon
So. Yeah. What you think of that?
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Matt Jones
You know when the guys put clothes on?
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Shannon
Weird. Shannon. It's weird. I'm going to go ahead and tell you. They open up the locker room and all these dudes are naked.
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Matt Jones
Do they not give anybody, like, a heads up? Like, hey, media's coming.
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Shannon
I think they just. I don't think. I don't know if people don't care or what. They're walking like, they're just naked. Like, there's just. That's stuff everywhere. And I. I don't need that. Like, we tried to talk to Ray Davis and he was naked, and I was like, ray, you can put clothes on.
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Matt Jones
We'll give you.
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Shannon
Like, we. We'll give you a minute, you know?
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Robert Smith
Yeah.
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Drew
And I knew, like, we've done NBA. NBA is the same way. I knew what we were going into because we've done it.
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Shannon
I feel like this is more naked than the NBA.
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Drew
It's a lot more people.
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Shannon
It's just naked everywhere and, like, a lot of body sizes and, you know.
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Drew
Billy obviously felt overdressed all day, but I felt overdressed in there. I thought about just throwing on.
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Shannon
Yeah. I mean, I just. I thought it was a code. I thought going to have to. I wasn't eager because, I mean, it's a. It's a. It's something.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Everybody was nice down in the locker room area, besides the Tampa Bay staffer that almost knocked Drew over, There weren't.
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Shannon
But there weren't many media, too, for NFL game. I felt like there were. Well, I mean, there were. There are more media. UK like that UK U of L game had significantly more media than this NFL game.
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Robert Smith
Really?
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Shannon
Oh, yeah, Significantly more media. So that was that. That's kind of weird that there's not, you know, there were. There's just not that many people there. And in the locker room, you know, Josh Allen's just sitting there by himself. I felt like, well, I mean, maybe he needs a conversation.
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Robert Smith
Maybe.
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Shannon
Maybe he needs somebody to talk to.
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Drew
Wonder what network TV shows he knows.
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Shannon
We talked about this on Cover Zero. I was also surprised that the post game meal was not as good for Buff. I mean, Buffalo is just beaten Tampa Bay on national television. You know, you would think. Is that when they give the players a meal, Shannon, don't you think they'd give them something nice, right?
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Matt Jones
Steak ribs.
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Shannon
On the way out the door, they just grab a Jersey Mike sub. That's it.
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Matt Jones
That's all you get.
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Shannon
And only six inches. You don't even get a foot long.
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Matt Jones
Dang. Speak for yourself. I love Jersey Mike's.
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Drew
Yeah, I like Jersey Mike, too. I was actually pretty jealous when I saw it.
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Shannon
I was like, oh, do you think that would be the post game meal for the Buffalo Bills?
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I don't know. Like, I wouldn't know if they'd put steak and mashed potatoes out there and do the whole nine yards. They may just want to get home.
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Drew
Yeah, you need to grab and go. Everybody's trying to get to the house. They were excited, though. You said this on cover 0, but millionaires getting a free sandwich.
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Shannon
People can be really rich, and if you give them something free, oh, they're.
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Matt Jones
Going to be free stuff.
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Shannon
Every. Every single person loves free stuff. I also love UK federal credit. This was the first time I'd ever really gotten to listen to the full broadcast of a game. Shannon, on this drive. Yeah, I'm on there way too much.
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Matt Jones
Oh, yeah, we know, we know. Yeah.
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Shannon
I mean, it is for all y', all, but I can see why people would want me not in their lives after they listen to that every. Because it's a lot.
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Matt Jones
It's every other break for four hours, five hours.
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Shannon
Would you like to do it before I read the ad? Would you like to do a quick impersonation of it?
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Matt Jones
No, no, I'm good.
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Shannon
You can do it. Go ahead.
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Matt Jones
No, I won't give no I'm fine.
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Shannon
Come on.
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Matt Jones
No, I'd rather you do a different accent like they've asked you to do.
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Shannon
Yeah, they want me to do different accidents. I don't know if I can do that. You've seen our ads for all y'. All. But what does it mean, Billy? It means we're for everyone in Central Kentucky. Nurses, police officers, students, small business owners, even that one friend who swore they'd never switch banks. At UK Federal Credit Union, we believe good banking shouldn't belong to a few. It should be for all y'.
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Drew
All.
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Shannon
That's right. It should be easy, local and made for everyone. Membership eligibility required. It's UK Federal Credit Union, federally insured by ncua. We'll take a break and be right back.
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Josh Zeman
A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers. But it wasn't until 2023 that when he was finally caught, the answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zieman and this is Monster Hunting the Long Island Serial Killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York since the Son of Sam. Available now listen for free on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Robert Smith
I'm Robert Smith and this is Jacob Goldstein and we used to host a show called Planet Money.
- [19:29]
Jacob Goldstein
And now we're back making this new podcast called Business about the best ideas and people and businesses in history and.
- [19:38]
Robert Smith
Some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies. In the history of business, having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all.
- [19:50]
Jacob Goldstein
It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business.
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Robert Smith
The most Texas story ever.
- [20:03]
Jacob Goldstein
There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're going to have mavericks on the show. We have plenty of robber barons.
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Robert Smith
So many robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad.
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Jacob Goldstein
And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked, like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [20:29]
Hari Kondabolu
On the podcast health stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.
- [20:33]
Dr. Priyanka Wali
Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Walley, a double board certified physician.
- [20:37]
Hari Kondabolu
And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am on health stuff, we're.
- [20:44]
Dr. Priyanka Wali
Talking about health in a different way.
- [20:47]
Hari Kondabolu
It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also.
- [20:50]
Dr. Priyanka Wali
What our health says about us and the way we're living.
- [20:53]
Hari Kondabolu
Like our episode where we look at.
- [20:54]
Dr. Priyanka Wali
Diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.
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Hari Kondabolu
How preventable is type 2?
- [21:03]
Dr. Priyanka Wali
Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.
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Hari Kondabolu
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Dr. Priyanka Wali
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Hari Kondabolu
Listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Shannon
Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. One person writes. Matt, what do you think happens if Cutter Bowley wants to. Cutter Bowley comes, doesn't want to come back, but Stoops does. That would be a negative. That wouldn't. That, that would not. That would not set the program up to, to have a lot of popularity in the off season.
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Drew
Yeah, the, the excitement is all in the young quarterback and the pieces around.
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Shannon
I mean you can, I think you can convince people to get excited for a return to the regime, but I think it's going to have to include Cutter Bowl. If it doesn't, then I Think you're going to have a very hard time selling another year of this to. To a. To a fan base more important to.
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Matt Jones
Keep Cutter than it is Stoops.
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Shannon
Oh, yeah. I mean, no offense to Stoops, but that's just. That's just true.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Shannon
Yeah. I don't think there's any doubt.
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Drew
Yeah, that's what all the excitement is. Even though the defense has been playing well, the team's playing well. Bowley flipping that switch has been the difference.
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Shannon
We heard this weekend, Drew, you and I, that. That some people, former players close to Stoops were frustrated with. With KSR and really maybe me and you specifically saying that they think a lot of the negativity around UK football is our fault. Which, you know, we heard this during the Cal Perry regime, but there were actually names associated to at this time, which was disappointing because they were people that, while we may or may not know, were people that we liked when they either when they played here or had a job here. You know, what is your take? Like, when you hear that? What do you. What do you think?
- [23:11]
Drew
I mean, have I probably been too critical sometimes? Sure. But really there's never.
- [23:18]
Shannon
Have you been, though?
- [23:19]
Drew
I don't really hear lately. That was about to say here, like, my, my opinions come down to winning and losing and they lost 11 straight games at home. I mean, I don't have much to say for you. When you've lost 11 straight home games and you go two calendar years without scoring more than two touchdowns, you are you. That's negative enough on your own. You don't need anything. I could add to the situation that would make it worse.
- [23:41]
Shannon
I think it's very convenient in all levels of life to, when things don't go well for you, say it's the media's fault. Right. Like, I don't have to name politicians that have done that. But, like, it's easy to go. Things aren't going my way. It has to be the media's fault. And I'm not saying the media can't play a role. I certainly think they can. But in sports, you know, in like politics, something can happen and you can spin it as a win or a loss, depending on how you word it. But in sports, you win or you lose. Like, there's a result, you know, there's a final result and it would not matter what you and I said. I 11 straight home losses are 11 straight. I can't go on the radio and go, we actually won that game, you.
- [24:31]
Drew
Know, well, Nobody gets us 12 times in a row.
- [24:33]
Shannon
Yeah, exactly. Well, we'll see you next time. I mean, so I genuinely think when you start doing that, nobody says it's the media's fault when things are going well. Right. So nobody goes, you know, things are going really well. Thank you, media. You know, they end up taking credit for themselves. So I. But I was disappointed because I think I. We have had the reputation for the Stoops era of being, like, way too positive.
- [25:01]
Drew
I've been getting killed.
- [25:02]
Shannon
I mean, I've been getting. I've gotten positive, gotten crushed for that for years, including during the end of Cal, of have people saying, well, why are you so positive about football and you're not about basketball? And now it just goes to show, like, there's nothing you can do. Because there. This was, like. There's apparently a consistent theme amongst some guys of that. Of that Stoops era. Thinking that. And I'm not talking about the guys in Buffalo. They were. They did not say that to us at all. As a matter of fact, they were the opposite. But I just, you know, I don't really know. Like, there's just nothing you can do about it. But I. I hope that whatever happens in these last two games, we get to a definitive place where the fan base is, like, as close. Unified as they can be. Does that make sense?
- [25:52]
Drew
Yeah, definitely. Also note, I picked them to win six games and go to bowl this year. So I've been pretty positive. It's almost like, game's over. Did they win? I'm happy. Did they lose? I'm upset. And we can just start there. And that's usually my opinion.
- [26:09]
Shannon
This is two different teams. I mean, I'll know. Think about the South Carolina game. I mean, we got destroyed at South Carolina. I think if you play that game next week, Billy, we might beat him. We probably would beat him.
- [26:21]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [26:22]
Shannon
So part of it is the team has just played exponentially better at the end of the season.
- [26:28]
Matt Jones
Dave Chappelle used to have a skit called When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong. And this is the price of you keeping it Real. Sometimes it can rub people the wrong way.
- [26:38]
Drew
I love that skit. I didn't know you were gonna go there.
- [26:41]
Shannon
There was just something about the way you said that. You kind of said that in, like, the widest way possible.
- [26:49]
Matt Jones
Love that show.
- [26:49]
Shannon
When Keeping it. When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong.
- [26:56]
Matt Jones
Well, this weekend you packed some nice luggage.
- [26:59]
Shannon
By the way, someone did say here on the text machine. Mario would have to answer this. When Billy pulled out the vegetable tray, did Mario say, this is the whitest trip I will have ever gone. Is that what you said? It's okay if you did. It's okay if you did.
- [27:16]
Matt Jones
You went to Seattle with Max Duffy.
- [27:18]
Drew
It's true.
- [27:19]
Shannon
That's true. I think. Yeah. A little more flavor, though, than that. Vegetables.
- [27:26]
Drew
Yeah.
- [27:27]
Shannon
I mean, remember, Max did disappear for 24 hours after he met a woman in a bar. Well, never mind. 859280, 2287. Maximo Adams committed to. What was it? North Carolina? Where'd he commit?
- [27:43]
Drew
I didn't even see.
- [27:44]
Shannon
Not Kentucky. He committed somewhere else. It's another recruit that Kentucky had recruited at some point in basketball. Was I right about North Carolina? North Carolina that Kentucky didn't get. Now, the three guys that they've been the top in on, they're still in on and have not committed, but none of them have committed. Are you at all getting worried that Mark Pope just cannot land these top guys?
- [28:10]
Drew
Worry? I'm not all the way there yet, but I am like, all right, you do need to show us something. Because as good as Jasper and Malachi were and gets, those were homegrown. You got a significant advantage there. He still needs to go out and prove I can get one of these stars to add to the team. Because even though I think college basketball has completely changed and you don't need four of them, you need one of them. One like that. Especially these five star freshmen coming in. And so far, I love Jasper Malachi, but I don't really count those for his recruiting because with the home hometown.
- [28:40]
Shannon
Factor there, I'm not worried. But he's got, like two more chances. And then I get worried. Like, if he doesn't get Stokes, Holt, or Collins, well, then I'm really worried.
- [28:53]
Drew
And it sounds.
- [28:54]
Shannon
And even if he only gets one, it's like, okay, you know, I don't. I don't think you're ever gonna see an era where people get five of them anymore, because I just don't think the money is there anymore for any team. But I think two is a reasonable request and I can be talked to. Well, okay, you got two last year they were Kentucky kids. You kind of had to get them. That's fine. But, you know, all these other schools have one already for next year. Some of them have two, and we still don't have any. Now if we close out and get them, I'm not going to be worried, but I am a little worried. I'm surprised that's been as hard as it's been.
- [29:32]
Drew
We've heard about them leading a lot, but you got to close.
- [29:35]
Shannon
That's exactly right. What good does it do to lean in?
- [29:37]
Drew
The top two is great, but let's get a jersey on them.
- [29:39]
Shannon
And even the one you got last year, Akaden Lewis left. He ended up not coming here. So we'll see a 592-80-2287. We haven't taken the call yet. T.J. smith, personal injury attorney.
- [29:51]
Drew
Call T.J. he'll make him pay.
- [29:53]
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Shannon
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- [30:37]
Hari Kondabolu
Let's look.
- [30:37]
Matt Jones
I have it right here in front of seven.
- [30:38]
Shannon
Seven starts at seven. They're going to have the men's game.
- [30:41]
Robert Smith
On.
- [30:44]
Shannon
While the women's game is going. So you can actually watch both.
- [30:46]
Matt Jones
Oh in the state like it Memorial.
- [30:48]
Shannon
In Memorial they're hoping to get a big crowd one because it's their first game against a really good opponent against power four opponent set. And we're, we have a good, we have a top 25 team. And second, they have one of the top recruits in America coming to visit. So you know, Kenny Brooks called into the postgame show I thought did a really, really good job calling into the post game show and sort of asking people to, to come. He was great. You ought to listen to his interview. But hopefully people will go and pack the house and you'll be able to watch the Michigan State game while it is going on.
- [31:26]
Matt Jones
Yeah, they deserve the support. Clara Strack has been phenomenal excited for this women's basketball team this year. And you're right. If you missed Kenny Brooks's interview in the post game, go back and listen.
- [31:35]
Shannon
He was, he was, he was really good.
- [31:36]
Drew
That was really cool. I like that you all did that. You know, normally you get the game recap but to have a active coach of another sport on 10:45 at night. Yeah, I like that.
- [31:44]
Shannon
Yeah.
- [31:45]
Drew
Gave us some Buffalo tips. But it's also big game for them and I saw that they're doing a blue out. Wear blue. I mean you should always wear blue.
- [31:50]
Shannon
Wear blue.
- [31:51]
Drew
Really pushing it for that one.
- [31:52]
Shannon
So if you want to go to that game, make sure you do that and, and get ready. And then of course the Kentucky game is. It's a weird time tomorrow. It's at 6:30. You know, normally we're the late game. Poor Michigan State. Whoever they play, they're always the early game. Have they ever played in the late game?
- [32:10]
Drew
I don't think so.
- [32:10]
Shannon
I really don't. It's like Kentucky, Duke and Kansas, whoever that. The two. When two of them play, that's the late game. Michigan State is always the early game.
- [32:18]
Matt Jones
And that's how it should be. I think they're the odd man out in those programs but.
- [32:21]
Shannon
But who are you going to replace them with?
- [32:23]
Matt Jones
No, I mean.
- [32:24]
Shannon
I mean they're probably the best team to put in it but like no one wants to see Michigan State. They probably should be replaced by Yukon if you wanted to make that the real champions classic at this point. When you do that, when you make it Yukon.
- [32:39]
Drew
Yeah. I mean the name champions. Not that we have a ton of them lately, but Yukon should be in.
- [32:43]
Shannon
The Kansas, Kentucky and Yukon. You got the. I mean right now Those are the four best programs of the last 20 years.
- [32:50]
Drew
And then when it goes to New York, I mean it already goes to New York.
- [32:53]
Shannon
That'd be the hardest ticket in the world if you went to New York. We're a five and a half point favorite. Does that surprise you?
- [33:00]
Drew
A little bit. They got a good win already over. Is it Arkansas? I thought this would be one of those one and a half, two and a half type spreads. Five and a half kind of my eyes a little bit. I was excited to. To bet, thinking a big bounce back. That's college basketball. At a game like that, that's a little too many point. That's too many points for me in the past.
- [33:17]
Matt Jones
Kentucky could lose this game and you could chalk it up to being really early in the year. But after that loss to Louisville, it's. It's just changed my whole perception of what happens with this game and what happens the rest of the season.
- [33:27]
Shannon
Well, I mean part of it is what Jaylen Low. All right, so yes or no, do we think Jalen Lowe plays again this year? This is a gas. So like nobody gets held to the fire for it. But yes or no?
- [33:39]
Matt Jones
I'm gonna say yes. Shannon plays again this year. Absolutely. Yes.
- [33:43]
Shannon
Okay.
- [33:44]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [33:45]
Drew
I'll be different. Say no. But I genuinely don't know anything. It's a complete guess.
- [33:48]
Shannon
Yeah. I'm gonna say no, and that's.
- [33:52]
Robert Smith
No.
- [33:53]
Shannon
I don't know anything. I. I really don't. I would tell you if I did. I mean, the. The whispers are leaning no, but I'm not sure if the whispers know anything. I actually think it's probably going to be decided today or tomorrow. I don't know when we'll find out, but I think it'll probably be decided today. I mean, it's. What makes it hard is it's not a medical. I mean, it's a medical decision, but it's really more of a personal decision. Do you want to do this all year and kind of maybe deal with pain, go back and forth, back and forth, get it hurt again, potentially get it hurt to where you have to have a real surgery, or do you just want to wait, do the surgery And. And be 100%? You know, Lamont Butler, they went through this with Lamont and he played, and then he had to have the surgery in the off season, and it hurt his NBA chances. Now Jalen's not probably going to the NBA at the end of the year.
- [34:45]
Drew
He doesn't have the urgency that some other.
- [34:46]
Shannon
So he doesn't have the urgency. Lamont did, but he could get another nil year.
- [34:52]
Matt Jones
That's. That's my thing. Pope mentioned they got to meet with the family and the agents. When talking about.
- [34:56]
Shannon
It was weird. He said agents.
- [34:58]
Drew
He said them before the medical profession.
- [35:00]
Shannon
I mean, it is certainly never been the case that I've heard a coach say in deciding the future of a player via injury, we have to talk to the agents. Now. He's probably. I mean, he's be again being honest. But Drew, you don't hear that a lot. No.
- [35:18]
Drew
The order of which he named the process was very telling of the current state of basketball that it's agents then. Dr. I know it's just how he said it, but they do have to consider that. And it being so early in the year, you know, it's going through his head. I could feel fix this now and I will be ready to go next year. The eligibility be worked out. But if I push it and say I hit it in February, what's my summer look like then? What's the next season look like?
- [35:40]
Shannon
Yeah, I mean, you're.
- [35:40]
Drew
He really has to consider just doing.
- [35:42]
Shannon
You're sitting there asking, are you Going to sign up for four or five months of pain. You know, like, you roll over wrong in bed. Ow. No, seriously, like, again, ask somebody who's had it or ask somebody who's had back pain. That sort of, at any moment, you can get. This jolt of pain is not something fun to live with. And then if you're gonna have to have the surgery at some point anyway, you can see the mindset now. Selfishly, though, we need him, and we could be really good with him, and so that's hard.
- [36:21]
Drew
And, you know, we don't know him at all. He might have that attitude like, I love this. These teammates. I want to be a part of this year. Or you might have the attitude of, I've got to look out for me, and if I have to step away in January, that could cost me a whole year of eligibility. I have my year.
- [36:35]
Shannon
Lamont Butler had no more eligibility, so it was like, if Lamont doesn't do this, his college career is over. So it's. It's different with Lamont Butler than it is with Jay.
- [36:45]
Matt Jones
No pain, no glory. These guys are really. They're highly competitive.
- [36:50]
Shannon
Easy for you to say.
- [36:51]
Matt Jones
Highly competitive people. That's why Trent Noah is lying to the medical staff, trying to get back into the game. I mean, these guys want to play and represent Kentucky, so that's something, like, mentally, that takes a toll on you, too, if you're going to miss the rest of the season.
- [37:03]
Shannon
Yeah, it's tough. We need him, though. I mean, I said. I said at the. In the summer, he's the one guy we can't really afford to lose, and we might. We might lose.
- [37:15]
Drew
It just so ridiculous, the injury situation. And I don't believe. I don't know if people want to throw the trainer out, but it seems just like fluke injuries, all of them.
- [37:24]
Shannon
What do you make of the. Of Pope saying that he basically screwed up, that he has not the team, he has not gotten the team to where he thinks they should be yet, and that he blames himself.
- [37:39]
Drew
I thought his last three speaking appearances were very wacky, but I did like that he was open, like, hey, I'm. I'm a little behind of where I want to be. He's, like, evaluating himself. You know, a lot of people will just lie to you sugarcoat. You tell, it's beautiful. He's like, I'm a little behind where I want to be. And I like, is our fan base that wants to know everything that he's admitting in that now there's part of us, like, all right, we'll fix it. But I'd rather him say, I'm behind and I'm mad at myself and sit there and try to sell me something that he doesn't have, you know, under control yet.
- [38:05]
Shannon
I agree with that. I agree with all that. I'm surprised, though, because we heard none of this before the Louisville game.
- [38:11]
Drew
It's true.
- [38:12]
Shannon
Like, before the Louisville game, we just kept hearing how good we were, that we had a chance to be special, that we. I mean, like, it's. It's odd that one loss. This part of. Why you shouldn't. Like, I'm even more fascinated about what happened in that locker room because, like, even his tone, everything about him has. Has. Has been different since that locker room. And I just. And then you, You. You can't. If you're just a human being, you're going to be curious what happened in that locker room.
- [38:42]
Matt Jones
And again, I don't know what happened, but that lends to the credence of. Maybe Mark Pope was a little too amped for the game that led trickle down to the players. Maybe he was trying to take ownership of his mistakes, but really couldn't be transparent in exactly what happened.
- [38:53]
Drew
But part of that job is having your team ready to go on the road and fight for each other, and it's you against them and drop the ball on that one. I mean, you're gonna have to figure out how to get your team ready for a rivalry game.
- [39:03]
Shannon
One person writes, matt, this is for Shannon. He needs to watch the new Ozzy documentary on Paramount. He will love it.
- [39:11]
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah, I would. I didn't know there was an Aussie documentary, but I will go back and watch that.
- [39:15]
Shannon
There you go. I didn't know that either. Another person says, matt, what about John Caliperi's latest rant? It's one of the classic ones for him.
- [39:24]
Matt Jones
I haven't heard. I didn't heard it here.
- [39:25]
Shannon
What is it?
- [39:26]
Drew
I didn't hear it either. I know he had a close game recently, but I didn't know about any rants.
- [39:30]
Shannon
I feel like he said, I saw something from him.
- [39:33]
Matt Jones
Can you guess it without seeing it?
- [39:38]
Drew
We haven't had time to practice defense.
- [39:40]
Shannon
He probably said that the media doesn't know what they're talking about.
- [39:43]
Drew
Didn't you say this?
- [39:45]
Matt Jones
Did you?
- [39:45]
Drew
Did you see what I did?
- [39:46]
Shannon
Do you see what I did? Yeah. From Little Rock to Bentonville.
- [39:52]
Drew
No, I don't know what he said. I know they had. They ended up winning, but they played one.
- [39:56]
Shannon
That game was close, though, against Sanford? Yeah. Again, he likes to play those game teams, again, that are good in the. In the. From the bad conference.
- [40:05]
Matt Jones
Would you rather beat St. John's or Arkansas this year?
- [40:10]
Drew
I say Arkansas, but it's strictly because.
- [40:13]
Shannon
And you want to win the SEC. Yeah. And St. John's is really good. So I would say. I, I don't. I mean, I. It's crazy for me to say this, but I don't have any animosity to Rick anymore. And I used to have the most animosity and I just can't. I mean, they were playing Alabama the other day. I was rooting for them. You know, I was rooting for Rick. So I don't know. I like. I can't think of a person I've ever flipped on more. Like if you go back through my history of people that at a time I really didn't like, but then later I found myself liking, it's probably like George W. Bush and Rick Patino.
- [40:53]
Drew
What a duo.
- [40:54]
Shannon
I mean, George W. Bush seems like he would be like. Seems like a nice guy.
- [40:58]
Matt Jones
So you like him now?
- [40:59]
Shannon
Oh, yeah.
- [41:00]
Matt Jones
Is that the opposite with Trump? Did you ever like Trump?
- [41:03]
Shannon
No.
- [41:04]
Drew
You'll get there. Give it time.
- [41:05]
Shannon
I don't know about that. That's one.
- [41:09]
Drew
You'll come around.
- [41:11]
Shannon
That's doubtful. I mean, I'm sure if I met him, like, I'd be like, nice in that moment, but. No, but George W. Bush, like, don't you think he'd be fun?
- [41:19]
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah. Watch me hit this drive. Is all I needed to see that. He could probably be a fun time.
- [41:23]
Shannon
Yeah, I think he. I think he'd actually probably be a lot of fun, you know. Yeah, but in Patino, I. His. My opinion has changed. 180.
- [41:32]
Matt Jones
Well, you got. You guys broke bread. I mean, he came on the show, did the interview, so.
- [41:36]
Shannon
But even before that, there was something about when he took the St. John's job. I just wasn't mad anymore, you know?
- [41:41]
Matt Jones
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- [41:42]
Shannon
Yeah. All right. 859280. I don't like you in the number. I'm not taking calls. We'll do it. We'll do it again tomorrow. It's just like a natural thing. We'll take a break. Be right back. Here in Buffalo, it's ksr.
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- [43:26]
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- [43:35]
Robert Smith
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- [44:04]
Robert Smith
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- [44:23]
Shannon
Your podcasts.
- [44:26]
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Hari Kondabolu
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- [44:41]
Dr. Priyanka Wali
Talking about health in a different way.
- [44:43]
Hari Kondabolu
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- [44:47]
Dr. Priyanka Wali
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- [44:50]
Hari Kondabolu
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- [44:51]
Dr. Priyanka Wali
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- [44:57]
Hari Kondabolu
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Dr. Priyanka Wali
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- [45:07]
Hari Kondabolu
Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that like your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible. But like, you don't even know.
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Dr. Priyanka Wali
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- [45:15]
Drew
You don't know.
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Dr. Priyanka Wali
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Hari Kondabolu
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- [45:28]
Shannon
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Drew
Yeah, we joked about the ankle doctor in the past. Then last year we were courtside for Kerr's injury. Watch it happen. You, you turn ankles in basketball back to back shoulders. It stinks. But I, I can't just make some big grand criticism of the trainer when Jaylen Lowe, who's tiny, is trying to box out mode in practice and separates his shoulder. I don't know. That's on the trainer.
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Matt Jones
I forgot about the Kirk Reese injury, him getting back.
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Drew
That was crazy.
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Matt Jones
It was. I will remember that forever. That was crazy.
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Shannon
That is if you're going to have your last play.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Shannon
He's in college this year, isn't he?
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Drew
Fun fact, he was spotted at Fayette Mall the other day, but he's playing for Cincinnati, so maybe he just. Maybe just misses us.
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Shannon
He was at Fayette Mall? Yeah. How's he doing? Is he getting.
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Drew
I haven't kept up with his time there, but that's where he is and I guess he just wanted to come back for our.
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Shannon
It's interesting. Villanova is splitting their point guards a. Kane Lewis and Devin Askew, both with Kentucky connections.
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Matt Jones
Devin ask you was still playing basketball.
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Shannon
By the way, if Drew seems like he's more like, you know, more kind of following the rules and Button up. Yeah, his in laws are sitting here right now.
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Drew
Well, Abby has gone to some extreme links to make sure I come home from.
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Shannon
Yeah, I mean, Abby's like, I want to make sure Drew doesn't do anything on the road. So she literally sent her in laws from Ohio to make sure you don't do anything.
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Drew
It is pretty bizarre. Abby's dad and stepmom, Jimmy Conyer here, they live in northwest Ohio, but they just happen to be passing through Buffalo this morning on their way to Niagara Falls. What a random occurrence. Well, I'm glad to have you all keep the streak alive, too. By the way, we got a listener.
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Shannon
The thing about Kentucky fans is just. It's just crazy because, like, we had this dude, the guy Tate, who's just a listener who lives in Buffalo. He came to watch the COVID zero taping last night. And then talking to him. He was the guy that had the sign at the game that told Calipari, go to Texas.
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Drew
That's how you.
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Shannon
That was him. That's how he introduced himself.
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Drew
Who knows? There he was.
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Shannon
Who are the. Who keeps walking into this house? There's another person walking into the house.
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Matt Jones
Mario, find out.
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Drew
Jim, did you bring that guy?
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Shannon
Go make sure there's. There's nothing going on. Do you think we beat Michigan State?
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Drew
I do. I'm not going to put my hard earned money on it with that spread and the question marks around the backcourt. But I feel like they're going to bounce back. And it's not just bouncing back from Louisville. They had a horrible game in New York City last year, so I think both of those will weigh into them being laser focused and putting together a good game.
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Shannon
Champions Classic has not been kind to us in the last Five to six years. It's. It's time to get a victory. Michigan State specifically is one you need to get when you, when you draw them in it every three years. So we need to get it. And I also think it's the kind of team, Billy, that if this team's going to be good, you win games like this, right? This is a team that we are more athletic than we should be, more talented than. The only way they're going to beat us is by being tough and rough, and we have to make sure that doesn't happen.
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Matt Jones
And this is a game where you see at least one guy rise to the occasion. Who is that person on this team? I. I remember Maxi going off.
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Shannon
Well, Maxi had one of the great. I mean, I don't. I don't know the. That we've got a Maxi on this team.
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Matt Jones
Well, I mean.
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Drew
Well, you got a mode from New York City who wants to play in the Garden. So that's our. That's our homecoming player to watch. Fresh off his double double Friday night.
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Shannon
One person writes, Matt, what do you think about the cop at the A and M South Carolina game? Well, I mean, he was clearly in the wrong. I mean, the cop was clearly in the wrong. It's one of those things that when you see it, you go, how many times does that happen when we don't have a camera? You know what I mean? Like, that's because that was. He bumps into the players. And actually it looked to me like nobody was necessarily at fault with the bump. It just kind of happened. But then, like, after it happened, see.
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Drew
I thought, he's a fault with the bump. He walked around them, he wedged between them with his arms extended, kind of.
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Matt Jones
Went like pushing his shoulders up at him and then yell at him, maybe.
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Shannon
I need to watch again. You think he, you think he, He.
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Matt Jones
He kind of went like. Yeah, he was ready to take contact.
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Shannon
Oh, you think he was like setting a pick, a moving screen.
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Drew
And people have noted when you work at games, whether you're an administrator, me and media, Mario with a camera, a police officer. When players are coming that tunnel, you get out of the way and give them a path. Like, it's just. You just know the team's coming out, step over.
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Shannon
So you think not only did he put them and you think set a moving pick and then called the foul on them.
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Drew
Yes, that's what it looked like.
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Matt Jones
Was ready to yell at them as soon as it happened.
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Shannon
He. That was quick.
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Drew
I think them being down 27 to 3 or whatever that moment Weighed on. I think it's a guy that can't handle his football emotions.
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Shannon
What's crazy is I think it's worse for him if they don't come back and win.
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Drew
Yeah. And also, I feel like they could have sent him home without saying it, but they made sure everyone released the.
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Shannon
Statement that he was getting sent home. And then they released a statement, he'll never be back.
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Matt Jones
Oh, I didn't see that.
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Drew
And they issued it quickly.
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Shannon
Yeah. I mean, they're like, we'll never assign him to a game again.
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Matt Jones
Well, good. It's unacceptable for law enforcement to do something like that. Some stupid fan that has a pass on the sideline, sure.
- [51:23]
Shannon
But no professional Billy with a strong take there.
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Matt Jones
Let me put my pe.
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Shannon
Any other.
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Drew
It was weird to just.
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Shannon
Any other important. Any important things.
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Matt Jones
It'll come to me when you bring up the headline or whatever. I don't have anything I need to get off my chest or anything.
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Shannon
Okay. So. So we just have a minute left. Overall, positive experience for you.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. This has been a ton of fun, bucket list kind of thing to do, the NFL thing. And all the equipment's worked, so that was.
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Shannon
You got it. You got our podcast to the NFL. They put it out. It's out there. So. You did good. You did good. Next time you'll still be in the bunk bed, but nevertheless, I like. We'll try. I'll try to make sure it's a bunk bed that has a mattress.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Drew
Or we'll put Mario in the other bunk with you.
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Shannon
Yeah, yeah.
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Matt Jones
And stepbrothers.
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Shannon
Yeah, you could be like stepbrothers. I mean, you already wear that sweater, so.
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Matt Jones
Well, I always. I always thought I'd get the Ryan Lemon treatment with the, you know, snoring and stuff like that.
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Shannon
So at least one day you'll get that. That day will come. Well, it was nice to have you on the road and thank you all who enjoyed the trip. We got a lot of. A lot of responses on social media, which was really good. If you want. If you get a chance, go back and like, some of those posts. The NFL looks at that stuff to see how it. How it went. And we will be back tomorrow in studio, then at the bar Wednesday and Thursday for the games. We'll see you later. From Buffalo, we're headed home. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.
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