2025-11-25- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

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KSR – Hour 1 (November 25, 2025) – Kentucky Sports Radio

Theme/Purpose:
In this pre-Thanksgiving episode, Matt Jones and the KSR crew (Ryan Lemond, Drew Franklin, Shannon the Dude) broadcast from across Kentucky, engaging listeners with lively discussion about UK football, their own mishaps with expired licenses and Social Security cards, the efficiency of Louisville’s DMV, the latest UK athletics call-in shows, frustrations about the football program's direction, and a few hilarious personal stories. The episode is marked by upbeat banter, some fan venting, and analysis of upcoming rival games and team trajectories.

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Table of Contents

• Callers and Listener Engagement
• Matt’s DMV Debacle, Skittles Fiasco & Social Security Card Quest (03:07–16:40)
• Real ID, Lost Documents, And Adulting (13:24–16:40)
• UK News & Views
  • UK Volleyball Advances (21:56–23:06)
  • Stoops’ Future & Cutter Bowley Commitment (22:37–25:49)
  • Drew Franklin’s “Rant”: Program Direction & Fan Frustrations (31:06–34:52)
  • Coaching Tenure, Stadium Atmosphere, and NIL Issues
• Call-In Highlights (26:09–39:48)
• College Basketball Tournament Talk (44:42–50:47)
• Fun Broadcasting Moments (Candace Parker & Bruce Pearl, 48:12–50:47)

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1. Caller Energy & Engagement

• Heavy participation celebrated – Matt notes (04:09) the highest diversity of callers ever, confirming fans’ strong feelings about UK football:
  “Yesterday was the most different phone numbers to ever text the text machine...in the history of the text machine.” – Matt Jones (04:09)

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2. Matt’s DMV Adventure, Car Crash & Skittles Fiasco

(03:07–12:25)

Key Points:

• Matt shares a personal story about his car wreck, learning his license and registration were both expired.
• In the aftermath, he “gifted” Shannon a pack of Skittles from his wrecked car, only for Shannon to discover it was four years expired and rock-hard.
• Funny debate ensues about whether candy ever expires.
• Matt lost magazines and gifts in the car, but the infamous pickle jar survived!

Notable Quotes:

• “A few weeks back, I realized that my driver’s license and my car registration had all expired.” – Matt Jones (05:40)
• “I nearly broke a tooth on how hard these Skittles were...and it was August of 2021.” – Shannon (08:49)
• “Some gifts did not make it...some things did make it, including...a box of Skittles.” – Matt Jones (08:16)

DMV Experience:
Matt surprisingly praises the Jefferson County DMV for efficiency:

• “I was in and out of the DMV in like 12 minutes...I just want to salute...our government workers in the Jefferson County DMV.” – Matt Jones (10:44–12:25)

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3. Real ID, Lost Documents, and “Adulting”

(13:24–16:40)

• The crew riffs on the requirements for the “Real ID” and Social Security card, commiserating over lost documents.
• Turns out, most people never lose these, sparking a deluge of messages.

Notable Quotes:

• “Do you all have a Social Security card?” – Matt Jones (14:26)
• “No, Shannon, you don’t. All right, I’ll stick with you.” – Matt Jones (14:29)
• “I got mine when I was 16 years old...I know exactly where it is.” – Ryan (14:36)
• “I do still have my birth certificate, which is amazing if you think about it.” – Matt Jones (16:34)

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4. UK News & Views

A. Kentucky Volleyball Advances

(21:56–22:08)

• UK Volleyball comes back to beat Tennessee, faces Texas in the SEC Championship.
• Crew plans a KSR watch party.

B. Stoops’ Call-In Show: Cutter Bowley Commitment & Stoops’ Future

(22:37–25:49)

Key Insights:

• Stoops all but confirms his intention to stay as UK football coach by projecting into 2026 and mentioning building around QB Cutter Bowley.
• The crew debates whether Stoops put pressure on Bowley by announcing his intention before the player made an official statement.

Notable Quotes:

• “He didn’t say ‘I’m back,’ but he said almost everything except that...‘Cutter Bowley is committed to coming back in 2026.’” – Matt Jones (22:41)
• “My first reaction was, oh, you kind of threw that kid under the bus...Now if something happens and he leaves, it’s a bad look on him.” – Ryan (24:17)
• “That sounded like something to me that Cutter might have said, but not necessarily wanted him to say on the radio.” – Matt Jones (25:06)

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C. Drew Franklin’s “Rant” – Program Direction & Game Day Frustrations

(31:06–34:52)

Theme:
Drew vents about the overall direction and game day experience of Kentucky football, criticizing both the athletic department and lack of atmosphere, tied to perceived complacency at the top.

Key Points:

• Drew’s frustration is with UK’s lagging NIL, promotional failures, and game day atmosphere despite the long tenures of the coach (Stoops) and AD (Mitch Barnhart).
• He recounts an embarrassing spring game and low attendance.

Notable Quotes:

• “We are so far behind on NIL. We’re like a tech company that ignored the internet for several years. Now we’re going to have to catch up...playing from behind.” – Drew Franklin (33:13)
• “The whole operation has been an embarrassment lately.” – Drew Franklin (33:41)
• “Drew is not a guy who gets worked up...I do think you’re speaking for a decent group of the fan base who feels the way you do.” – Matt Jones (32:29–33:13)
• “There needs to be new blood injected...we have people who worked in the train industry trying to run the plane industry, and that’s not a recipe for success.” – Matt Jones (34:52)

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5. Call-In Highlights

(26:09–39:48)

A. Six Wins & Contract Extensions Debate

• Caller asks Matt to clarify earlier statements about Stoops’ contract being extended for six-win seasons.
• Matt distinguishes between “keeping your job” and “deserving a new contract,” stressing fans don’t want to plateau at 6–6.
  • “6 and 6 is a year worthy of probably keeping your job, but...you don’t get an extra year for going 6 and 6.” – Matt Jones (27:44)

B. Louisville Game Stakes

• Callers and crew agree beating Louisville is the minimum expectation given Louisville’s injury woes:
  • “If he loses to Louisville, I feel like he needs to be fired. If he beats Louisville...you probably keep him.” – Caller Ron (35:38)
  • “...you gotta win that game.” – Matt Jones (36:40)

C. Future of the Program

• Matt outlines three questions:
  1. Is Stoops coming back? (Yes)
  2. Should he? (Leaning no)
  3. Will it work? (Matt is pessimistic) (38:48–39:48)

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6. College Basketball Tournament Talk

(44:42–48:12)

Key Points:

• Crew analyzes early season tournament games, with Gonzaga emerging as a clear basketball power.
• Impressive wins make KSR nervous for UK’s matchup with Gonzaga.

Notable Quotes:

• “I'm a confident Kentucky basketball fan 99 times out of 100. But when I was watching Gonzaga–Alabama, I was like...oh no, Gonzaga looks like a machine.” – Drew Franklin (45:26)
• “I mean, I think they are the best team in the country by far.” – Ryan (46:50)

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7. Fun Broadcasting Moments

(48:12–50:47)

Bruce Pearl Roasts Candace Parker On Air:

• During TNT’s Tennessee game broadcast, Bruce Pearl jokingly accuses Candace Parker of “dating with one of my guys, and she was talking to two or three others at the same time.”
• Candace laughs it off but is taken aback by being called out on live TV.
• Quote:

  “Bruce Pearl says on the broadcast...that Candace Parker caused some turmoil with one of his teams because she was dating two different players on the team.” – Matt Jones (48:32)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Yesterday was the most different phone numbers to ever text the text machine...in the history of the text machine.” – Matt Jones (04:09)
• “I nearly broke a tooth on how hard these Skittles were...and it was August of 2021.” – Shannon (08:49)
• “We are so far behind on NIL. We’re like a tech company that ignored the internet for several years.” – Drew Franklin (33:13)
• “There needs to be new blood...We have people who worked in the train industry trying to run the plane industry...” – Matt Jones (34:52)

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Summary Takeaways

• The KSR crew blends serious sports discussion with relatable, humorous personal stories.
• The mood among fans is energized but divided, with growing unrest about the program’s infrastructure and vision.
• Matt continues his tradition of turning minor personal mishaps into relatable, comic content—this time about expired licenses, expired Skittles, and government bureaucracy.
• UK athletics’ upcoming games (volleyball championship, the Louisville football rivalry) are presented as must-win both for team momentum and for the coaching staff.

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Episode Flow

• [03:07] – Show proper starts; listener engagement and Matt’s DMV/expired license & Skittles story
• [10:44] – DMV efficiency praise & segue to “Real ID” requirements
• [21:56] – UK Volleyball and watch party announcement
• [22:37] – Stoops’ call-in show analysis; Cutter Bowley recruiting news
• [24:46] – Debate on public commitments by coaches/players
• [26:09] – Calls about Stoops’ contract, the stakes of the Louisville game
• [31:06] – Drew Franklin’s “rant” on overall program problems, game day/AD gripes
• [34:52] – New blood/vision needed for UK sports
• [36:32] – Stakes of beating Louisville given the opponent’s injuries
• [44:42] – Men’s basketball tournament breakdown, schedule fears
• [48:12] – Bruce Pearl “dating” story on broadcast with Candace Parker

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For listeners who missed the show:
This episode is a quintessential sample of KSR: highly interactive, sharply opinionated, and infused with the hosts’ everyday Kentucky quirks. It balances venting about program frustrations with the light-hearted camaraderie of a crew that knows how to keep things moving, even between Skittles disasters and UK’s up-and-down football fortunes.

Transcript

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[Shannon]

This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome, everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. We are Tuesday, November 25th, just two days before Thanksgiving. And I'm Matt Jones on a rainy day in Louisville, Kentucky. Ryan and Drew are in Lexington. Shannon is at the studio. So it's one of those days where we're all over the place, but you can still give us a shout on the Clark's pump and shop phone line, 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254. And this edition sponsored by the T.J. smith Law Office. If you call TJL, make them pay. I thought yesterday was one of our better call days in a long time. A lot of different voices, a lot of people who gave different opinions and love to hear more from people. Today. I also yesterday, Ryan, I went back and looked at the text machine outside of days where I asked for a poll. Right. Where I say text yes or no, right?

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Outside of those days. This was the. Yesterday was the most different phone numbers to ever text the text machine. Not the most text received, but the most different numbers were all during the show yesterday in the history of the text machine.

[Ryan]

Well, you said it was one of it was a top three day for callers, but a lot of different voices, a lot of people we've never heard from. I'm sure you're seeing the same thing on that text machine.

[Matt Jones]

It's just a lot of people, drew have strong opinions about everything that's going on and it's good to see. It confirms my view that I've held, which is I think the majority of the fans want to change. I think there is a significant minority that don't, but the majority do. And but when you get to the issue of firing, it becomes a little more complex and you even saw it with the four opinions on this show yesterday. So I hopefully we get to do more of that today. Yep.

[Drew Franklin]

Everybody's just fans that wants their team to win games and be a little better. And right now across the board, we're in a little bit of a slump and it's got people worked up now.

[Matt Jones]

You know, oftentimes, Ryan, I start these shows by complaining about something. Have you noticed that ever over the years?

[Ryan]

I've never known you to complain. Come on, what are you talking about?

[Matt Jones]

Occasionally something frustrates me you know, and it's happen. It's happened.

[Shannon]

So I'm for.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going to throw it a little bit different. I'm actually going to say something that I want to compliment Ryan. An institution that never gets complimented.

[Ryan]

Okay. All right, roll tape, Shannon.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so this probably will surprise you all, but a few weeks back, I realized that my driver's license and my car registration was all. Had all expired.

[Ryan]

Come on. You gotta be kidding me. Shocking news there.

[Matt Jones]

Did that. Does that surprise you, Drew?

[Drew Franklin]

Not even. Not even a little bit.

[Ryan]

Probably expired three years ago.

[Matt Jones]

It did not expire three years ago. The car may have expired, Shannon, a little while ago, but the license, the.

[Shannon]

Skittles you gave me yesterday.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, that's what I'm getting at. All right, so. So a few weeks ago. Few weeks ago, had a wreck, and it was not great. It was actually kind of a bad wreck, and it totaled my car. And in the process of dealing with it, we realized, Drew, that these things had happened. By we, I mean everybody. Because everybody makes mistakes, right? Like, things happen.

[Drew Franklin]

Like when you say everybody, it's you. And who are the other parties?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, the other parties would be the police, right, that came to the wreck, you know, that kind of thing. So. So, you know, I mean, I'm gonna have to. To, you know. You get it. You, Shannon, you get a ticket for that, right? Yeah. So I'm. I'm. I had to yesterday go and get all this stuff updated, by the way, on Sunday, I went to see the car because I'm, you know, I'm not gonna be able to drive it again. And I. You may remember, Ryan, there's a bunch of stuff in my car in the front, back seat.

[Ryan]

No, again, another shocker. You got a bunch of junk in your car.

[Matt Jones]

You know, I've had that car since 2017. 235, 000 miles on that. On that Lexus.

[Ryan]

Served you well.

[Matt Jones]

It really has served me well. I mean, I didn't want to. I didn't want to wreck it.

[Shannon]

Not a single oil change.

[Matt Jones]

No. 6 to 8. Probably 6 to 8 over the course of the time. Right. And I. It had served me well, but when it. When it happened, it was raining. So some things didn't survive, Ryan. Some things. Some things did not make it through the wreck. I think I lost 12 New Yorkers. New Yorker magazines.

[Shannon]

Rest in peace.

[Matt Jones]

Rest in peace. Some gifts that were given to me over the years from various shows maybe didn't make, like, T shirts and that kind of thing, right?

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Some of that didn't make it. Some things did make it, including. So I had a box of packs of Skittles, probably eight to nine Skittles that were strewn strown all over the car. So I thought I would be nice yesterday and give one of the packs to Shannon. Drew, isn't that nice of me to give one of the packs of my cars Skittles that survived to Shannon?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. That's so nice of you. So generous, especially this time of year.

[Matt Jones]

Now, Shannon, you then realize maybe it was a little old.

[Shannon]

Well, I didn't think to look at, you know, the expiration date on the.

[Matt Jones]

Skittles, as I don't think about Skittles expiring.

[Shannon]

No, I thought Skittles were evergreen. Like you could have them through the apocalypse and Skittles would still be good. But no, I was wrong because I nearly broke a tooth on how hard these Skittles were. Not to mention they tasted disgusting and nothing like a Skittle. So I go, what is the expiration date on these? And it was August of 2021.

[Matt Jones]

So you gave me four year old Skittles. I don't think people realized. I don't know, Ryan, did people realize Skittles expired?

[Ryan]

I would think they would last through eternity. I didn't know that. Expiration date on.

[Shannon]

I can. I can confirm.

[Matt Jones]

So, Shannon, I'm sorry about giving you expired Skittles. Yeah, well, I'll also let you know the. Drew the pickle jar.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, from pickle jar?

[Ryan]

Pickle jar.

[Matt Jones]

It survived, don't worry.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, good.

[Ryan]

I remember.

[Drew Franklin]

I remember buying that. I was going to practice chugging pickle juice about six years ago.

[Ryan]

That's right.

[Matt Jones]

It survived the wreck and it was fine. So yesterday was. All right. I'm going to have to like, clean all this stuff, right? So I'm gonna have to go get my license renewed and go get my registration renewed. And I don't know when I've done this process over the years, Ryan. It is like a tedious process, can take hours, you know, sitting and waiting. Right. So I had prepared essentially my entire afternoon in Louisville to deal with this stuff. I have to give a shout out to the Jefferson County DMV and Jefferson county clerk's office. I was in and out of the DMV in like 12 minutes with a renewed license and in and out of the clerk's office in maybe four minutes, having paid the registration. I can't believe how efficient these government offices have become. And as somebody who would certainly complain if it was otherwise, Ryan, I. I feel like they deserve a salute. They do. When's the last time you got a license? When's the last time you went out?

[Ryan]

You went there, Josiah and I just did it like a couple of months ago when he turned 18.

[Matt Jones]

Was it quick for you?

[Ryan]

It lasted probably an hour, hour and a half.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so is that Fayette County?

[Ryan]

Fayette County.

[Matt Jones]

All right. They need to learn from Jefferson County. They need to learn because you walk in Shannon now, and it's completely different. You know how it used to be a multi step process? You talk to this person, then you'd go get an eye test, then you go take a picture, then you'd wait for them to print it off, you know, I mean, yeah, now you can do it all with one person.

[Shannon]

You had a completely diff. Different experience than I did because it was years ago, though, but it took me like two hours to go.

[Matt Jones]

Exactly. But I'm saying they've done something now. Well, good, because you can walk up there, you take the little eye test in seconds. Like it's right there with the lady. She takes the picture in seconds. They look and they. And next thing you know, nowadays, I guess they have to go through this process. So you don't get it there. You get a temporary one, and then they'll send you the other one. Right. But it's amazingly efficient. And then I went out and did the registration out on Beulah Church Road, a road I don't know exists except Shannon, when I need to get my registration done every few years. Yep. In and out quick. Like, you know how you used to have to pull those numbers and all that? Now they text you, they're like, bam, you're ready. The whole process, 45 minutes. And I just want to salute Ryan, our government workers in the Jefferson County DMV and county court clerk. Because what used to be the most miserable experience you could have actually is unbelievably positive.

[Ryan]

Usually the. The wait is just waiting to get in front of the lady to take your picture and do all that stuff was. You may have timed it perfect. A Monday on a holiday week. You may have picked the perfect time.

[Matt Jones]

You think that was just the right time to go?

[Ryan]

Maybe. Was it not very crowded in there in the waiting room?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, there were people, but it felt like a lot more people were working Drew. And it felt like there was a spring in their step. You know what I mean? Like, they didn't look. You know, sometimes you'll go and government workers look like they want to be anywhere on earth. But there these People were friendly, and I just. I just thought they deserved a salute. And maybe. Maybe people should go get their license renewed as part of a holiday experience.

[Drew Franklin]

You're talking about a group and a place that's kind of known as a joke, as a place nobody wants to go. It is always the worst. So I'm glad you're shining a spotlight on Louisville for being a place that's getting it done efficiently.

[Matt Jones]

So. Louisville takes a lot of crap for things, Shannon.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But I thought I would. I would give a salute to that because it went extremely well, and now I am arguably up to date.

[Shannon]

Now, do you have the real ID now, or do you have.

[Matt Jones]

Well, so the real id you have to have a lot of stuff.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And I brought. I'd brought all the bills that have your address. Right. And I'd bought. Brought my license, and I brought. There was something else, but then I didn't know. You have to have a Social Security card.

[Shannon]

Who has that?

[Matt Jones]

Who does have.

[Shannon]

Do you have, like.

[Matt Jones]

Where does one even get that?

[Ryan]

It's like. It's on your tax record. You could have brought your tax records that they had. You're supposed to bring your taxes, anything that shows your. Your Social Security number or, like, your passport, anything.

[Matt Jones]

I had a passport that didn't work.

[Ryan]

Maybe it doesn't have your Social Security number on it.

[Shannon]

Oh, we would have to. I would think a passport would. Right.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I brought my passport. She said I needed a Social Security card, and I don't even know. Shannon, where do you even get those?

[Shannon]

You have to apply for it, you know, through the government.

[Matt Jones]

Apply through who? Who do I Talk to?

[Shannon]

Social Security.com.

[Matt Jones]

Do you all have a Social Security card?

[Ryan]

Yeah, I do. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, well, no, Shannon, you don't. All right, I'll stick with you. Yeah.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Ryan, where did you get yours?

[Ryan]

I got mine when I was, like, 16 years old. And it's still happening. Still have it? Yeah.

[Shannon]

You laminate it at least?

[Ryan]

Yeah, it's laminated.

[Matt Jones]

You still have it from when you're 16 years old?

[Ryan]

Yep, I sure do. Yeah. I know exactly where it is.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, wow. So you said, I can use my taxes.

[Ryan]

Well, I thought when we did it. When I did mine, I brought my tax return because it has your Social Security number on it. Showed them that.

[Matt Jones]

They told me. They're. They like, you have to have all these documents. And I had them all, except they were like, you don't have a Social Security card. And I did look at the woman, and I go, I don't know what that is. Where do you get that?

[Ryan]

So are you going back to try to get the real id?

[Matt Jones]

I just got the license. You know, there was a time crunch here, Shane, and there are things that I needed to go ahead and get the license.

[Shannon]

I'm just proud of you actually getting updated. I mean, how adult of you.

[Matt Jones]

True. I would argue very adult to have all your paperwork and also almost all your paperwork. Well, the real id, what do you need a real ID for?

[Shannon]

Flying.

[Drew Franklin]

Getting on planes.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but you can use your passport, right? Which is what I've been using. So is there anything else I need it for? Is there anything you need that for that you can't use a passport?

[Drew Franklin]

Just. Just living in modern times, I guess. But I mean your license is fine.

[Ryan]

And it's good for eight years, whereas I think the regular license just for four years.

[Matt Jones]

Well, you can now get your regular license for eight years too.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

But I still think you should get a real idea. The real idea was only $2 more.

[Shannon]

But it's a money grab. What's the difference?

[Matt Jones]

A Social Security card, apparently. Apparently.

[Shannon]

Thing is an id and it would.

[Matt Jones]

Seem to me that the Social Security guard. I'm probably card. I'm probably Shannon. Gonna have to go pay for too, right?

[Shannon]

Yeah, I would think you. I guess you. I guess me too. I'll be right in line next to you. And I gotta get one too.

[Matt Jones]

I can't believe you've had that since you were 16 and you haven't lost it.

[Ryan]

No, I. I still got my 16 year old signature on it. It still.

[Matt Jones]

Is it in your wallet?

[Ryan]

No, it's in my drawer in my house.

[Drew Franklin]

I think I got mine as a newborn and it's. I still have it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, I do still have my birth certificate, which is amazing if you think about it.

[Drew Franklin]

Skittles in the car. It survived the rain.

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No, I.

[Matt Jones]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. A lot of people saying on the text machine, Ryan, they have the Social Security card from when they were a kid.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

That's surprising to me.

[Ryan]

Put in your safe deposit box.

[Matt Jones]

Did they give it to you when you were a kid? Like is that something they handed out at school or something? Because I don't think I ever got one.

[Shannon]

I remember having one at one point. I think my mom just gave it to me, but I, I don't know where it is.

[Matt Jones]

I think when you're.

[Ryan]

When you're born you get.

[Matt Jones]

They give it to the baby and.

[Ryan]

Say they mail it to you like Drew said he's had his since the baby. I think they mail it to your. After you finally get assign one number.

[Matt Jones]

Well for people apparently you can go and you can get it. You can get it at the Social Security website. Shannon for those for me and you.

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[Matt Jones]

Real ID there. People are telling me it's $12 more. I thought it was three. One person writes Real ID is a cash grab just like Shannon. So they can follow our every move. I hate it. Yeah, that sounds like something you would say.

[Shannon]

Just. Well, I did say that first segment.

[Matt Jones]

You said they could follow your every move.

[Shannon]

Well, yeah, I said the cash grab thing, but that's pretty much it.

[Caller]

Right?

[Shannon]

I mean they can follow you regardless.

[Matt Jones]

If you see that's my view. They can already. All right. So Drew, UK volleyball one last night.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Semifinals. Tonight is the finals at 7 o'. Clock. We're going to have a watch party at the bar. We're. I think you're coming, aren't you Drew? I'm coming. I'll be there.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes. Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Ryan, you're going to be able to stop by?

[Ryan]

Absolutely. I'm coming for this.

[Matt Jones]

All right, good. This is exciting. We haven't had A watch party with all of us there in a long time. So come on out and let's. They play in the SEC championship, they play Texas, and that'll be tonight at 7:00'. Clock. Congrats to women. They fell down early last night to Tennessee and then came back and won the next three sets. Okay, let's go over these call in shows. First, let's start with Stoops. Drew Stoop says in the call in show, he didn't say, I'm back, but he said almost everything except that. He talked about recruiting. He talked about how they're getting JUCO players. He talked about why they're getting juco players instead of high school guys basically saying, if I'm gonna spend this money, it's gotta be for guys that contribute. That's a different discussion. We could have another day. But then he says, cutter Bowley is committed to coming back in 2026. It was definitive. There was no caveat. There was no if this. He just said, cutter Bowley is committed to coming back in 2026, and we're going to build around him. How did you take those comments?

[Drew Franklin]

I was listening to the whole show. I had volleyball on mute while listening to both coaches show. It was unique experience there, but that one turned my head a little bit. I kind of perked up and looked at my radio. Like, did he just say that out loud? He said something along the lines of, cutter's always been all in. He wants to be here, and we got to build around him. It was, you know, I thought Cutter would make that decision in a few weeks or beyond. But Stoops kind of teased us with where he's leaning and sounds like it might already be done.

[Matt Jones]

First of all, do you. I mean, but I don't think you say that right unless you assume you're coming back. Is that fair?

[Drew Franklin]

Correct. Yeah. He's talking about future, future, future. There was also the line of, like it or not, I'm a Kentuckian.

[Matt Jones]

Like, he's like, I didn't. Like, I didn't like that line. I mean, why does he feel the need to say, like it or not?

[Drew Franklin]

I guess it is kind of addressing his critics indirectly, like, whether you want me to be here or not.

[Matt Jones]

But I don't think anyone is like, you're not a Kentuckian, do you? I mean, maybe there's some people, but I don't think most people are like that. Even the ones who want to change, I don't think they're filled with, get out of here. You got to get out of our. Close up the bourbon shop and get out. Yeah, I don't believe that's okay. That felt a little defensive. But Ryan, how did you read the comments?

[Ryan]

He definitely sounded like a guy that plans on being here next year. And when he first said that about Cutter, I gotta be honest, my first reaction was, oh, you kind of threw that kid under the bus. You kind of handcuffed him. Now if he could now feed. Something happens and leads, now it's a he. It's a bad look on him. But then I thought a little more, dude, it's a perfect time to say that this is game week for Louisville and then we're going to get. You need a little more excitement in that locker room.

[Matt Jones]

Do you think there's a chance that he did put Cutter in a tough spot that Cutter, like, really hasn't decided and now you've put that out there?

[Ryan]

Well, I just, you know, before the season's over to make that comment. That's not really. I didn't think initially fair to Cutter, but like I said, the more I thought about it, like, man, this is Louisville week. That's gonna get everybody fired up and know he's coming back and they can rally him. He better.

[Matt Jones]

He better know he's right.

[Shannon]

Yeah, I think they would maybe have a conversation with Cutter before he would just say that.

[Matt Jones]

But that sounded like something to me that Cutter might have said but not necessarily wanted him to say it on the radio.

[Shannon]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

You know, I don't know. I mean, honestly, I have no idea. I will say Cutter beam back would make people much more positive about it. But that is a very definitive statement. And so what I would say is, if you're going to do that definitive statement, you better be right. You better be right. So I have no reason to think he's not right, so I'll assume he is. But if Cutter had not said that to him, you could see how Cutter, Ryan and his family might not be thrilled about that. Right.

[Ryan]

Kind of squinch, flinch a little bit.

[Drew Franklin]

If.

[Matt Jones]

Anything inch you hear your head.

[Ryan]

Coach say, like, oh, we're not ready to announce that yet. You know, maybe they were going to.

[Matt Jones]

It was announced.

[Ryan]

See what was going to happen with. With the head coach and the offensive coordinator before they decide if he's definitively coming back.

[Matt Jones]

It was announced who's up first.

[Shannon]

Let's go to Kyle.

[Matt Jones]

Kyle, Go ahead, Kyle.

[Caller]

Hey, Matt. So I'm a football fan talking about. I'm not necessarily a playoff or bus guy, but I do think the type of bowl or level of bowl you, you play and does matter or who your opponent will be. Especially considering this year with the teams we have beaten. I just wanted you to clarify maybe some comments you made about a month ago specifically about when you had thought that Stu's contract had the provision of an extension for a 6 and 6 season for one extra year. Now that's not how it is. And then we go on this win streak, this little win streak. And then you, you did mention that this season would be good if we went 6 and 6. Can you just clarify?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know if they were good. I don't know if I said the word good. I did say that it would be. Well, maybe, maybe I don't know what I said, but I'm sure. But here's how I feel. I think if they go six and six, that's a two game improvement from last year. They made a bowl and I don't think you can get rid of him. And it is an improvement. This team is better than the team last year. Now, whether it's significantly better to where it's sort of makes you feel positive about the future, that's a different question. I don't really know how positive I feel about the future, but I do think if you started the season and you asked fans what is a season that would be a success. That might have been the word I use, a success. I think most of them would have said it has to be at least six and six.

[Caller]

So that's why so upset though with the idea of extending him a year though for a six and.

[Matt Jones]

Well, because I don't like, because I don't need, I don't want six and six forever. Right. Okay, so. So if you, if you're six and six and then I'm giving you another year. Remember what my argument was when I thought the contract said he got a year every time he got a bowl and it was a six year deal. What I said is that's a terrible contract because you're giving him six chances to fail and he still gets and keeps going. Right? So I didn't like that. But here's what I think 6 and 6 is. It's a year worthy of probably keeping your job, but at the same time you don't get an extra year for Cohen. Six and six. Does that make sense?

[Caller]

I appreciate, yes, I appreciate you for clarifying that.

[Matt Jones]

I could see a contract, Drew, where you said every time you win nine games you get an extra year, but I don't really like a contract. In today where you get an extra year just for winning six.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Especially in a year where, heck, this year could look like we're going to win six. I think we're actually going to kill Louisville on Saturday. But people are still down over a six win year. Because I think we are going to win years. I've bet the alternate spread at minus six and a half.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, boy.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm all in.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that's interesting because. Well, we'll talk about it. We'll take a break. Be right back. This is ksr. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney.

[Ryan]

Call tj.

[Matt Jones]

He'll make him pay.

[Shannon]

Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

I have good news.

[Shannon]

Breaking news or no, just good news.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, Ryan, do you not care about my good news? Usually that you would make an excited sound.

[Ryan]

I'm on the edge of my seat. Anticipated waiting.

[Drew Franklin]

I bet I already know what it is.

[Matt Jones]

My mom has my Social Security.

[Drew Franklin]

People text me that. Karen's gonna text Matt and say she has it.

[Matt Jones]

Who said that? Somebody guessed it.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, that's kind of normal. Like you get it when you're young. And sometimes mom will hang on to it and put in a safe deposit box.

[Matt Jones]

Deposit box. I haven't. Shannon, I don't have to go get it.

[Shannon]

Well, congratulations. Now I'll be the only one in.

[Matt Jones]

Line now that you'll be the only one to do it. One person writes, Matt, I'm 78 years old and I'm like, ryan, I still have my original card. Jeff Drummond wrote me and said he still has his. And it looks like an American Revolution document.

[Ryan]

Yeah, it's a little. Little ratty around the edges.

[Matt Jones]

So you laminated yours? Did you, like, go somewhere professional?

[Ryan]

It's not. I don't think it's laminated. I think I just got in a little plastic bag.

[Drew Franklin]

Mine looks like Jeff Drummond's. It looks like it's been to war. It's not laminated.

[Matt Jones]

Who knew? Who knew that was.

[Ryan]

Well, I'm surprised you haven't needed yours at some point.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think anybody's ever asked me for it. I. This birth certificate, I remember having to go through a process to get. Because I needed it for something, but. Yeah. Never. Never knew until this real ID that this was the thing we need to do before. Let me go back, Drew, for a second. You said you think we're gonna win Yesterday, you know, we were talking about. You were kind of being Frank Franklin and Ryan was kind of being Ryan optimistic about the Stoops thing. And we had four kind of very different opinions about what the future should be. Maybe I didn't understand. If you think we're gonna win and go six and six at that point, is it you support bringing Stoops back or is it like, I don't really love it, but I think we have to.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I don't think you can fire them with six wins. My whole issue almost doesn't even involve Mark Stoops that much. It's that they're going to go into this year and they're going to act like there's not a football season again. Last year from December to August was embarrassing me. Nick Roush and Adam Luckett went to whatever they called that spring game. We were there early. We were the only people that tweeted about it. UK Football did not send out a tweet on the day of their spring game. It's like, are we the ones doing the promotion here? Then you have Texas, Ole Miss, Florida, Tennessee. You can't sell out one game.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Mitch Barnhart is the longest tenured AD in the conference.

[Matt Jones]

Mark. So your problem is more with Mitch. Right?

[Drew Franklin]

The whole operation. How are we the worst game day atmosphere when we have the longest tenured coach, the longest tenured ad? Like the fact I know several people that were in Vandy, many of them work for ksr. They came back like, well, we could never do that. Well, how in the world is it about to be year 14 of Stoops and Mitch has been here 20 something years and we can't possibly match Vandy's game day atmosphere. I mean, what are we doing?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, okay. I don't disagree with any of those.

[Drew Franklin]

And also I do think they win Saturday, but a lot of that is because Louisville doesn't have players. And my prediction, I wrote this yesterday. My prediction is if they win, will be exact. I even predicted the Duke's Mayo bowl and if we go to that, I'm taking my victory.

[Matt Jones]

Shannon. This version of Drew Franklin doesn't come.

[Shannon]

Out a lot like, like.

[Matt Jones]

This version of Drew Franklin is a rare sight. It came out a couple times at the end of Cal, but we called him Frank.

[Ryan]

Frank. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

This version gets. Drew is not a guy who gets worked up. I've known him for many years. This seems to particularly get at you, all the things you're talking about. And I think it's. And I, I do think you're speaking for a decent group of the fan base who feels the way you do about it, but you're saying it's really not about. Hang on a second. You're saying it's really not about Stoops being the coach or not. It's the direction of the program as a whole.

[Drew Franklin]

Correct. I mean, I actually have. I'm a little sympathetic to Stoops. It's not his job to go out and sell tickets now. He needs to win games. Absolutely. People don't go when they don't win. But I think the whole operation has been an embarrassment lately. We are so far behind on nil. We're like a tech company that ignored the Internet for several years now. We're going to have to catch up. Playing from behind. And I know I don't do this very often. It's not like I just wake up grumpy. I did it for basketball because we haven't played on Saturday of the sec tournament since 2018. At some point, we got to be like, all right, this is getting pretty damn bad. So thank you for letting me cook one more time. And it starts at the top.

[Ryan]

Frank is back.

[Drew Franklin]

How do you not sell out a.

[Ryan]

Football game, a home sec, with that schedule and Keeneland?

[Matt Jones]

All right, I got you. I'm with you. And I agree with almost everything you said. I do think that is a. Those are major issues, the sort of culture around UK football. And the reality is they need. They need an injection of fresh blood, whether that's at the AD level or whether that's somewhere else. We have people who worked in the train industry trying to run the plane industry, and that's not a recipe for success. There needs to be new blood injected in, sir. On the football side, specifically, when you change coaching staffs, you buy very nature, inject new blood. But if Stoops is going to be back, which it looks like he is, there needs to be a conscientious effort to inject life and new blood into all the things that Drew's talking about. I agree with him completely. Who's next?

[Shannon]

Let's go to Ron.

[Matt Jones]

Ron, go ahead, Ron.

[Caller]

How are you doing, Matt?

[Matt Jones]

Doing good.

[Caller]

I got two comments, and then I have a question. My first comment is I'm under the impression I've been talking. Listening to your real ID stuff. You had to have a real ID to travel out of this United States.

[Matt Jones]

Sometimes you have to have a passport. You can have a passport. A real. You have to have a real ID to get on a plane now, or you can have a passport. So I've been using my passport.

[Caller]

I got you. Okay. I was earning the impression because I just got my real ID about Six months ago.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but you can't travel out of the country with that. You'd still still have to get a passport, even with your. You can travel around the country, but to leave the country, you're gonna have to have a passport.

[Caller]

Yeah, I gotcha. And then my other comment is if. Well, we have to beat Louisville Saturday regardless, because they're beat up so bad. So if he loses to Louisville, I feel like he needs to be fired. If he beats Louisville. If he beats Louisville, then you. You probably keep him. And you for sure keep him. If he goes to a bowl game. Beats love when we go to a bowl game and win.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I appreciate the call. I mean, he's going to be kept if they beat Louisville. You know, Ryan, if they lose to Louisville, it's that purgatory we talked about 5 and 7. A lot of people are going to want him gone. They're probably not going to get rid of him. And everything Drew just said and that about changing things. Right. I think that becomes triply true if you lose to Louisville. I mean, it's true anyway, but it's even more true if you lose to Louisville.

[Ryan]

Especially a Louisville team is limping in. They've lost three in a row. Every day there's somebody another starter from Louisville that's hurting.

[Matt Jones]

They've quit. Right. And then there's like. I'm not saying they're going to quit Saturday, but like, you know, when your top three running backs, your top wide receiver are not playing and your top quarterback may not play. Shannon, you gotta win that game.

[Shannon]

You have to. Yep. I know Kentucky's got some injuries on defense, but they've got more problems than we've got. The quarterback situations, all their culture.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, first of all, they. The fans seem to hate the quarterback. The quarterback threw the team under the bus and then was basically dropped a weight on his foot and wasn't able to play. And then they put two rookies in and they were awful. Like, you just have to win that game. And. And I actually think Louisville has as much, if not more talent than us this year. But because of everything's going into it, you're going to have to probably find a way to win that. It's interesting how things have flipped so much since a month ago. When it comes to the Louisville game. I mean, Louisville was. Louisville was looking at the playoff four weeks ago.

[Shannon]

You know, starting quarterback three for 94 yards last week.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, a lot of most of it was on the first drive. And then he, like, didn't do anything. The Rest of the game.

[Shannon]

Jerry.

[Matt Jones]

Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry.

[Caller]

Hey, man. You know, I called after the Florida game. He kind of called me out because he says being a little too negative, but I mean anybody that couldn't enjoy that Florida beat down after the burger beat downs has got something wrong with you. But my concern then is that people were getting a little out over your skis talking about bowl games and everything else after that game because I knew Vandy was really good and I was afraid what was gonna happen. Last week's gonna happen. But going forward, the little game, Louisville, like you said, looked real different three weeks ago. And this thing Saturday depends on this quarterback and you know, but, but I think you're. No matter what happens Saturday, I think, you know, it's one person that matters and that's Barney. And he's made his man mind up to bring suits back. So we're just gonna have to see what suits does. But I think personally for me, if they don't make some major change on the offensive side of the ball, then that, you know, then I just don't see it getting any better. And I just, my concern, I see this being a kind of a slow bleed out rather than if they had lost those two games, it had been a quick thing.

[Matt Jones]

You may be right about. You may be right about that. It could, it could be. It could be. And I appreciate the call and prayers about your dad. I, I, it very well could be that. Listen, there's a difference between whether or not I think he's going to come back. There are three different positions. Whether or not I think he's going to come back. And I think he is. Whether or not I think he should be back. And I lean towards it'd be better for the program if he wasn't. And then question three, Whether or not I think it's gonna work. And on the it's gonna work. I'm a pessimist, unfortunately, and I hope to become not a pessimist, but that's where I am right now. If you're looking for a great holiday gift, buy Noche Linda gift card. Shop their Black Friday deals. You get 20% off your purchase November 18th through the 30th buy any amount gift card and you pay only 80%. Ryan, you took a big old hunk of meat the other day home with you. I meant the food. And you, you love Noche Linda, right?

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[Matt Jones]

So, Shannon, you and I are getting killed for not having a Social Security card. People can't believe it.

[Shannon]

Why can't they believe we're the only two people that don't have it?

[Matt Jones]

I do not believe we're the only two people that don't have it.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

One person says, matt, you're not allowed to get a job without a Social Security card.

[Shannon]

That is not true.

[Matt Jones]

I've never, because I've had a lot of jobs. I've never. I've never had it for one job.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

No one got a new job with the NFL. No, but did they ask, did they ask you for Drew for your Social Security card?

[Drew Franklin]

No, I have one, but I don't know the last time I've actually needed it.

[Ryan]

You just know your number.

[Matt Jones]

That's a lie, sir or ma'. Am. One person says, ryan is so. Ryan. It is actually illegal to laminate your Social Security card.

[Ryan]

Yeah. It's in like a baseball card sleeve. It's like a plastic sleeve. I said laminate laminated, but it's like a little cover.

[Matt Jones]

Laminated.

[Shannon]

No, Right next to your Darryl Strawberry tops card.

[Caller]

Huh?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. You go, he's like, here's my Mark McGuire, here's my Barry Bonds, and here is my Social Security guard. The problem is he traded it for a Billy Ripken card.

[Ryan]

Oh, that Billy Ripken card.

[Matt Jones]

And now, now he, now he doesn't have it anymore. You know what? I watched through a lot of the Players era championship last night. Watched a lot of tournament, had it on while I was doing things. And the atmosphere is not great because there's not a ton of people There, but the game sure are great. And Syracuse and Houston had a battle. That was awesome. Alabama, Gonzaga. You know, I watched that one pretty closely because we're gonna play both teams and I'm not the most confident against those teams right now. I think, you know, we put the fact we have to play Gonzaga in what, like a week and a half? They're really, really good. And. Yeah, what'd you think about it?

[Drew Franklin]

I'm a, I'm a confident Kentucky basketball fan 99 times out of 100. But when I was watching Gonzaga Alabama, I was like, oh no, Gonzaga looks like a machine. They could be the number one team when that game rolls around. I think they are.

[Matt Jones]

I mean they're good.

[Ryan]

They're good.

[Matt Jones]

And if you look at their schedule, they could lose. So they play today. I think they play somebody bad today. So they're going to win today. And then obviously, Shannon, with that stupid. You make the finals if you score the most points or whatever. So there. It's not clear who they'll play Wednesday, but presumably they'll play somebody good because they're going to be two and oh, whether they're in the championship or not, we'll see if they don't lose that game. If you look at their schedule like we're the only team that has a chance to beat them. If they win this week, their next two games, Ryan, they have a really good chance of going undefeated because you know, their conference stinks. So that, I mean they might go into the tournament like 31 and oh.

[Ryan]

Yeah, they play Maryland today.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. They're going to kill them. Who else they play? Does anybody have their schedule?

[Drew Franklin]

They play UCLA in the non conference. That's about it.

[Matt Jones]

It's really just us and then their conference. Oh, are they okay, well, maybe they're better.

[Shannon]

They're 18th. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so maybe they, maybe there's a chance they lose. Where is that game at Gonzaga? They're not gonna lose that.

[Ryan]

I mean, I think they're the best team in the country by far. I think they are.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you do? Yeah, yeah, they're crazy because like it's first of all that EK has played there for how long does that guy get to be.

[Drew Franklin]

And he's killed us. I know they won last year, but.

[Matt Jones]

He had a big game last year. He killed us last year. Yeah, he kills us. Brandon Garrison.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, he got us too.

[Matt Jones]

When you watch those games though, by the way, Tennessee is going to end up making the finals because they won by 25 yesterday because they played Rutgers. Right. So they. Who do they play today? Who's Tennessee play today? So they'll have to win today. But if they win today, they're going to Tennessee.

[Drew Franklin]

Houston. I'm looking forward to that one, Houston.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so if, but if they win that game, they're going to make the finals because of how much they beat Rutgers by. But if they lose that game, then they may not.

[Ryan]

Well, does that mean Michigan. Michigan beat San Diego State by 40.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, they did. So you could get Tennessee. Michigan in the finals. That would be. That actually would stink because they're not. Oh, but Michigan plays Auburn, so they could lose.

[Ryan]

That's true.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Nate, Amen and the Gillespie guy. Tennessee went out and got look pretty dangerous. I was hoping they would not pan out, but they're looking very good.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, Tennessee place, Houston. All right, so let me ask you a question. Watching those games yesterday, do you. Do you wish we were playing in it?

[Ryan]

Yeah, I mean, you know, he's high profile. Teams playing each other in a preseason tournament. Yeah, I think. I mean, we'd be all for it.

[Matt Jones]

It was good TV watching.

[Ryan]

Yeah, it was.

[Matt Jones]

You know, I mean they had, they had tnt. Had what? Chris Weber and Jamal Mashburn and Bruce Pearl and all those guys at the game. Did you see Bruce Pearl talking to Candace Parker? Shannon?

[Drew Franklin]

No.

[Shannon]

What did he say?

[Matt Jones]

Kind of an amazing clip. So Bruce Pearl's doing it. He's doing the Tennessee game, I think with Candace Parker and somebody else. And Bruce Pearl says on the broadcast with Candace Parker sitting there that Candace Parker caused some turmoil with one of his teams because she was dating two different players on the team. Oh, he said this on live tv. He said Candace knows what happened. And Candace is like, oh, coach, no, no. And she goes, yeah. He was like. He was good. She was going to break one of my players hearts. I called her into the office and asked her to wait to break up with him till the next night after the game.

[Ryan]

Oh, my goodness. Why are you saying this on our broadcast?

[Drew Franklin]

He said dating. Dating one guy and talking to two others.

[Matt Jones]

He brought three people. Pull up the video, Shannon, real quick. And it's online. And listen to Bruce. Like she was laughing, but I was, man, Bruce, you are calling her out on national television.

[Ryan]

But she handled it well because she could have been the other way.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know.

[Shannon]

Okay, so I think this is it. I haven't.

[Matt Jones]

Go ahead and just play.

[Shannon]

Listen to it.

[Matt Jones]

So go ahead and play it now. There were some stories that we could talk about and there are other stories we can't talk about. But Candace was a beautiful young student athlete in Tennessee. She was dating with a one of my guys, and she was talking to two or three others at the same time. You can't air her dirty laundry like that, Coach. Come on now, Candace, you remember there were a couple times I would come to you say, honey, don't break up with him tonight. Right? You remember that? I knew I did. And she would be like, okay, we had that relationship. Candice was mature beyond her years in your office and talking to you. And I think that that's the thing.

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[Matt Jones]

T. Okay, so there you go. And then they just. I mean, that's like.

[Shannon]

You talk about Tennessee. She could date.

[Matt Jones]

I think she loved him. Well, yeah, I mean, she got to date four of the players on the team. But, but, but Drew, I couldn't believe he said that during the. In the middle of the broadcast.

[Drew Franklin]

And she married a Duke basketball player right out of college.

[Matt Jones]

So it's like there's a lot of math going on here.

[Drew Franklin]

But yeah, I can't believe he said that. Really? You shouldn't say that at all. Even in profit with a couple people around to say it on the broadcast of the games. Outrageous.

[Matt Jones]

And he just, like, threw it out there. Drew Ryan, like, hey, by the way, Candace, you had two or three of my guys at the same time.

[Ryan]

I don't think Bruce and Candace be working together tonight. Tonight's game. They're probably separate, those two.

[Matt Jones]

I'm surprised it didn't get more attention. By the way, the Diego Pavia mom thing started getting attention yesterday. Did you see that? Like, it started. Lots of people were talking about it. Kirk Herb street did a podcast about was on barstool. Like, we had that early the D. I think the video just started getting out yesterday. It did. All right, so we're going to talk a little basketball, too. Mark Pope had his show with some news as well. And take your calls. We'll be right back. Ksr.

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