2025-12-08- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – December 8, 2025, Hour 1

Hosts: Matt Jones, Ryan Lemond, Drew Franklin, Shannon the Dude
Main Theme:
A candid postmortem of Kentucky basketball’s demoralizing 94-59 loss to Gonzaga, examining the state of the team, the eruption of fan anger, and what such a blowout means for the trajectory of the season—and Mark Pope’s leadership. The hour is underscored by Matt Jones’ personal reflections amidst a challenging week for his family.

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Episode Overview

• Purpose:
  Deciphering the Kentucky basketball program’s worst performance in recent memory, the wave of fan booing during the Gonzaga debacle in Nashville, and what’s gone wrong culturally and strategically for UK under Mark Pope.
• Tone:
  Raw, unsparing, a blend of sorrow, anger, bewilderment, and the occasional gallows humor—a group therapy session for Big Blue Nation.

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1. Personal Context: Matt Jones Addresses His Own Tough Week

[04:09–07:03]

• Matt Jones offers heartfelt thanks to listeners for support after tough personal news about his father ("Larry"), who has been unwell.
• He shares that doing the show is a helpful distraction:

  "To be quite frank with you, can be a good distraction from what's going on... There may be times in the coming weeks I have to be gone. I hope people understand that." ([04:45])

• Confirms rescheduling the annual December road trip and thanks the crew for their support.

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2. The Gonzaga Game: “Shockingly Bad, an Embarrassment”

[07:03–12:59]

• Initial Reactions:
  All hosts express disbelief at the magnitude of UK’s defeat.
• Drew on the Scene in Nashville:
  • The Big Blue crowd traveled strong, outnumbering Gonzaga fans, setting expectations for a home-like environment.
  • But excitement in the arena quickly turned to shock and then sarcasm (“sarcastic cheering” for the first UK field goal after a 19-2 start) ([08:07–08:50]).
• Ryan on Fanbase Mood:

  "It's been a long time since we've seen the fan base like this about our basketball program... really bad." ([03:13])

• Matt: The “Worst Beating, Most Humiliating Performance”
  • "I'm not sure... I think Kentucky has been more thoroughly dominated in a way like that."
  • Frustration is twofold: poor team construction and zero 'want to' from players ([09:38]).
  • Not just about the scoreboard, but the absolute lack of energy and pride.
• Pregame Warmups:
  • Multiple attendees messaged Matt that Gonzaga’s pregame was sharp and “military-esque,”
    while Kentucky players stood around chatting ([10:38–11:16]).
  • Ryan: “No focus…like they weren’t ready to play a pickup game.” ([11:16])

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3. Dissecting the Effort: “Gutless, Defeated, Like They Don’t Even Like Each Other”

[12:46–16:56]

• Team’s On-Court Demeanor:
  • Drew and Matt: Players were “moping around,” showing no defensive intensity or cohesion.
  • Mark Pope, previously known as a high-energy leader, looked “defeated,” “like he doesn’t have a single care,” and “more afraid than any fan in the crowd” ([12:59–13:29]).
• Coaching Critique:
  • Matt: "You spent more money on this roster than anybody else in the country. You played here. You don't get to... when the ship's going down, you have to be at the front." ([15:54])
  • Drew: "Stick your chest out and be the leader... We're at war, and he's in the back of the pack" ([15:29]).
• Lack of Chemistry:
  • “It looks like the players cannot stand each other... almost have zero desire to be on the court.” ([14:13])
  • Coaches and players are not only losing, they’re doing so with no energy or connection.

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4. Booing the Team: Acceptable or Not?

The Infamous Nashville Booing Segment

[22:04, 23:57–31:00]

• Drew’s Eyewitness:
  • “Oh, it was a lot…I'll go 20%…It wasn’t half the crowd, but it felt like it.” ([24:40–24:47])
  • "That was a vicious boo... I want you to feel how mad we are at you right now." ([28:28])
• Historical Context:
  • Loudest, most sustained booing any of the hosts can remember at a UK basketball game—even in football, nothing compared ([25:54–26:13]).
  • “This was booing with six minutes to go in the first half… not just at the end of the game.” ([25:24])

Why Did the Booing Happen?

• Years of pent-up frustration after disappointing seasons and lack of postseason success ([26:13–26:34]).
• Big money spent on the team (“allegedly $22 million”), but minimal return.
• Discrepancy versus last year’s team—lesser talent before, but always maximum effort.
• Fanbase “snapped” after almost 20 minutes of basketball over two games with just two field goals ([28:24]).

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5. Is It Acceptable to Boo? KSR Hosts’ Vote

[30:25–33:27]

• Ryan Lemond:
  • “No, it’s not. Not your own team. Not like that.” ([31:10])
• Drew Franklin:
  • “Without hesitation. Yes, it's acceptable… These are guys giving no effort…You don't even try, that's different.” ([31:29])
• Shannon the Dude:
  • “100% acceptable, Ryan… fans paid hundreds if not thousands of dollars to come to Nashville to watch that. And that deserves to be booed.” ([31:58])
• Matt Jones:
  • “I would not do it. I would not recommend doing it. But I also think because of the effort... I think it is acceptable.” ([33:00])
  • Stresses that it's effort, not just performance, that makes booing understandable.
• Key Quote:

  "Two years ago, I would've said you never boo college kids ever… But if they're not going to even give effort... I can't think of a Kentucky team that didn't give effort." – Matt ([33:27])

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6. What’s the Real Problem? Coaching, Roster, or Culture?

[34:13–39:01]

• Team Chemistry:
  • “I cannot remember any team that liked each other less than this.” – Matt ([34:04])
  • Even in previous “team turmoil” eras, there was some on-court unity; this group has none.
• Message for Mark Pope:
  • Drew: “He needs to have a team meeting… try to send a message. Whatever he's telling them in the locker room… is making them go the opposite direction.” ([35:01])
• Caller Donnie:

  • "I'd send them to the locker room… until I got down to five players. You don't dog it, you go to the locker room." ([36:13])

• Matt’s Recap:
  • Consistency only against bad teams; “Against a bad team, they look great” ([37:00]).
  • Wonders if Pope is overthinking/overanalyzing, as Field of 68’s Terrence Oglesby suggests:
    “Maybe he’s just too smart right now… They don’t even do the basic things.” ([39:01])

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7. Outside Perspective: Terrence Oglesby’s Critique

[45:09–47:03]

“He talks about eccentric loads and workloads and work output and all this stuff that requires three degrees to listen to. How about you just play off two feet, communicate and switch... Get back to the simple parts of this game.”

• Hosts’ Reaction:
  • This team needs basics—stripped-down basketball, not analytics overload.
  • Drew: “His guys obviously aren’t getting the message... he should go to the very bare minimum of instruction at this point.” ([46:38])
  • Matt: Wonders if Pope lacks “common sense” as a communicator—can he relate to this team the way Calipari and Pitino could ([47:24–48:12]).

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8. Fan Response Poll

[44:59–48:40]

• Matt runs a text-vote poll during the show: Is it acceptable to boo?
  • Results: Roughly 80–85% say YES.
  • Ryan is not surprised, but notes this would not have been true before NIL and the current climate ([48:40]).

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9. “Can It Be Fixed?” and Final Calls

[49:11–end]

• Caller Todd: “I would say it was 50% booing… the effort is one thing, but our offense—I’ve seen 5th and 6th grade teams run better.” ([49:57])
• Matt: “We’re playing five out… and we don’t have anybody who can shoot or drive… we’re playing the Warriors’ offense with no shooters.” ([50:00])
• The Coaches’ Dilemma:
  • Pope’s public defense of players/the rotation is based on analytics, not reality.
  • Drew: “Please do not tell me how efficient Brandon Garrison is.” ([51:30])
• Summing Up:
  • The hour closes with the central question: Can things turn around if Jaden Quaintance returns?
  • Hour Two will tackle that, UK volleyball, and football news.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “This was as poor a performance as I’ve ever seen… they were gutless.” – Ryan Lemond ([10:20])
• “He (Mark Pope) looks defeated to me… he looks like a man who just hates his life.” – Matt Jones ([13:29])
• “The whole program looks like the players cannot stand each other.” – Matt ([14:13])
• “That was a vicious boo… That was, I want you to feel how mad I am at you right now.” – Drew ([28:28])
• “You spent more money on this roster than anyone in the country… you don’t get to hang back." – Matt ([15:54])
• “I would not do it… but when you’re not going to even give effort… I think it is acceptable.” – Matt ([33:00])
• “We’re playing the Warriors’ offense and we have no shooters.” – Matt ([50:10])
• “Please do not tell me how efficient Brandon Garrison is.” – Drew ([51:30])

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Key Timestamps

• 02:34 – Show begins, intros
• 04:09 – Matt’s personal update, show logistics
• 07:03 – Breakdown of the start of the Gonzaga game, Nashville fan mood
• 10:38 – Pregame warmups: energy and focus
• 12:46 – Player and coach body language dissected; comparison to prior UK teams
• 22:04/24:37 – The "booing" controversy, firsthand account from Drew in Nashville
• 30:25 – KSR panel debate: Is it OK to boo?
• 45:09 – Text machine poll; reading Oglesby’s critique
• 49:11 – Caller feedback (“I’ve seen 5th and 6th grade teams run better offense”)
• End – Teaser for second hour: searching for solutions

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Summary Table

| Segment | Key Topic | Notable Quotes / Timestamps | |----------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| | Opening & Personal Context | Matt’s gratitude, family situation | “can be a good distraction...” [04:45] | | The Gonzaga Debacle | Shock, low effort, record fan anger | “It was an embarrassment.” [09:38] | | Team Chemistry/Leadership | Pope looks defeated, players detached | “He looks like a man who just hates his life.” [13:29] | | Booing Debate | Host votes, rationale, 80+% listener approval for booing | “That was a vicious boo.” [28:28] | | Coaching & Analytics Critique | Overcomplicating, not teaching basics | Oglesby quote [45:09–46:38] | | Fan Survey & Callers | Text machine poll, more horror stories from the crowd | “50% booing… 5th graders run better offense” [49:11] | | Can It Turn Around? | Open question, to be addressed next hour | |

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For Listeners: This episode was a raw, honest reckoning with rock bottom for Kentucky basketball—a therapeutic forum for fans and hosts alike. If you missed the hour, these are the sentiments resonating through the state: exhaustion, demanding accountability, and, above all, a plea for the program to rediscover heart and connection.

Transcript

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio Monday, December 8th. I am Matt Jones. Ryan Lemon. Drew Franklin in studio as is Shannon the dudes. You can give us out on the Clark's Pump and Shop phone line 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254. In this edition sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office. If you call TJ. He'll make them pay. Ryan Drew, a. I don't know what you would say, sad or angry, probably moving towards angry weekend across big blue nation. Would you agree with that?

[Ryan Lemond]

Absolutely. It's been a long time, I think, since we've seen the fan base like this about our basketball program, but it is, it is really bad.

[Matt Jones]

Shockingly bad. I mean, Drew, we'll get to the scene in Nashville, but would you have thought 10 games into year two, you would have seen this level of anger in BBN?

[Drew Franklin]

No, not at all. And we've now, it's been a few days since that game and I am actually still in the disbelief phase of what I watch and mostly what I heard from the fans in Nashville. I didn't have much faith in the game. We've seen the team lately. They have big problems. But to look that bad and get that response from some of your most passionate fans, I still can't even believe it happened.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well. 859-280-2287. You can give us a shout. Text machine is 772-774-5254. I'd be remiss if I didn't start off by saying.

Just a lot of gratitude towards all of you from the weekend. You know, it's been, it's been a tough week for, for, for my family and me and you know, the various pieces of news about my dad have actually come out during the games on ripe game days of Tuesday and Friday.

But people have had an amazing response, just overwhelming. And we all, myself, my parents, really appreciate everyone.

You know, it's a difficult situation, but my dad is back home and I'm gonna kind of leave the rest of the stuff sort of private with my family. But I hope you all will understand over the course for me coming on and doing this show, to be quite frank, you frank with you can be a good distraction from what's going on. And that's kind of what I would like to do as much as possible. But there may be times that I in the coming weeks have to be gone. And I hope people understand that. And you know, Ryan, Drew, thank you guys for stepping in this weekend and I'm sure stepping in the future. We were supposed to go next week. Not this week, but next week on our yearly kind of December road trip. We're not going to do that right now. We'll still be around. I'm still going to be around, but I think it's probably better for us to maybe postpone that maybe until January. We'll see what happens. But Ryan, Drew, I want to thank you guys and Shannon for really being such good friends during all this and helping out, man.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know, we got your back to just hang in there, be strong. We all. We all love Larry life. Throwing him a couple of curveballs, but he's a tough old guy, man. If anybody can beat fight this, it's Larry Vondale. There's no doubt about it.

[Matt Jones]

I'll tell him you said that. Tough old guy. I'll make sure that that's what we pass.

[Shannon]

Yeah, we're all here for you, man, and keeping you in our thoughts and just let Larry know that. That we're thinking about him.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, I appreciate that. And you know, this at times, sort of doing this and doing it in a public way and having to go through situations like this in a public way can sometimes actually make it more difficult, but then also sometimes can. Can make it really positive in terms of how people react. So. But anyway, I hope you understand doing this show and kind of going forward, it's just. It's. It is kind of a good distraction for me. And we will. We will progress on in that way. And you know, I love my parents more than anything. And Larry. Larry's a fighter and. And will continue to. To do so. So shifting gears.

A lot of the stuff that happened happened with me on Friday, so I missed a great deal of the. When I turned the game on, drew, it was 19 to 2. Oh, my. I thought it's. I thought I'm going to miss a little bit. Did not think I was going to turn it on and it was going to be 19 to 2. You were there. I want you to do me two. Two favors. First of all, explain to me the scene in the arena, because I generally believe that Nashville provides the best of Kentucky crowds. Literally the best. Even better than Rupp Arena. Nashville is the best. What was it like leading into the game and then sort of what happened? Not so much on the court, but in the crowd during the course of the game?

[Drew Franklin]

Well, you're right about Nashville. That was BBN at its best. And then maybe its worst as it went on. I thought Gonzaga fans might travel because when they played it, Rupp, they brought a good crowd. Of course, Seattle, that's close to them, but they had a lot of the fans there. There weren't many Gonzaga fans in that arena. It was all blue. I hung around.

[Ryan Lemond]

Full.

[Matt Jones]

Was it full?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, it was full. And it's the. It's that SEC tournament. The rowdy crew that, you know, you Mentioned it's not the normal season ticket holders that have been spoiled by having seats for so many years. These are the people that don't get to go to many games. And they sure showed out going into it. It was a little weird because everyone was excited but the confidence wasn't high. We kind of went in just waiting to see what Kentucky could do. But then minutes into the game when they're on that scoring drought, I mean the reaction there was just truly shock. And then when they finally scored to break the drought, the sarcastic cheering, our first basket, whatever minutes into the game was, I mean I couldn't help but laugh, but it was like a ticked off laugh. I couldn't believe we were in that state.

[Matt Jones]

You know, I want to talk about the buoy because that's gotten a lot of attention amongst the fan base and amongst the outside college basketball world because it is not something you see a lot in college basketball. But let's first Ryan, I guess talk about performance. I mean we got absolutely demolished. 94, 59. I'm not sure. I was trying to think of a time I think Kentucky has been more thoroughly dominated in a way like that. I mean a couple times I think we've lost by more points. But. But this was in some ways maybe the worst beating that I've ever seen Kentucky take because it was from moment one. There was never one sense where the game was even moderately competitive. And I think it was a combination. And I think this is part of why there's so much frustration with the fan base combination of talent, which clearly is part of it, but also a combination. Combine that with want to. This was it. I mean when I say they quit, that would assume that at some point it felt like they were in it. Even with that crowd and even with that juice. It was a team of no energy and just. It was an embarrassment. It was. I'm not going to say it's the worst loss in UK history. There have been worse, you know, the Oakland's, the St. Peter's etc. But in terms of most humiliating performances, Ryan, I don't know if there's been one.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do you know, it was as poor a performance as I've ever seen. And you mentioned there's. There's been some bad losses, but this time they were, they were gutless. There was no effort, there was no energy, there was no focus on the post game show. Jack Given said. I knew it from the pregame warmups that there was. They were coming out flat like they weren't ready to play.

[Matt Jones]

Well, let's talk about the pregame warmups for just a second because Jack said that but I was getting messages. So you know, it was kind of weird because of what was going on. I had my phone sometimes, I didn't have it sometimes and I sort of looked like an hour into it. I got on the text machine. And Ryan, on your point about pregame warmups, I had a. I had multiple people writing me saying they were at the game and they're like Gonzaga is running like a military esque warmup where they're like doing drills, etc. And the Kentucky guys are standing around talking to people. Talk to me about that. What are they talking about there? Because I got multiple people saying that before the game even started.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I think it was Gonzaga. They were getting themselves mentally and physically ready to play while Kentucky looked like. I think they were out there just shooting baskets, getting ready to play a pickup game. Like there was no focus. A Jack kept using that word. Like you could tell they just weren't focused, no energy at all. Trying to get ready for. To play this huge game with a huge crowd chanting Go Big Blue all throughout the arena and you. And you can't get up for it.

[Matt Jones]

I mean we don't even. You don't even have to really go over the details of the game because it was everything you can do. We did poorly. We did not have energy. The rebounding right after we've had multiple. We've talked about this offensive rebounding thing. Another game where we get absolutely demolished. And there are multiple videos online on TikTok and on on Twitter of showing our lack of hustle. Basically guys not getting back, guys not in the right position. There's a really damning like two and a half minute clip of this guy just showing all of Kentucky's errors. Also showing Mark Pope making bizarre coaching errors. They focus on inbounds plays where we continue to put our center guarding the inbounder and end up with their center being guarded by a six three guard, three different possessions. And Pope never changes it up. I it drew it's. I can keep saying embarrassing. I don't want to keep doing that, but I can't think of a worse Kentucky performance where they did the name on the jersey. Less respect than that one.

[Drew Franklin]

I know. Just moping around like they don't even talk to each other talking about defending the realm. Grammy K could have had 100 points if he wanted.

[Matt Jones]

Easy. He was scoring nobody every single year.

[Drew Franklin]

He at least the last couple of years he had to earn it A little bit. I mean, there was. It's like they didn't have any defense on him whatsoever. And with Pope, yeah, he wasn't making the adjustments, but this was my first game because I went as a fan. I'm not sitting up in the media seats. I'm a little closer to where Pope is, and I was just watching him. I'm just as frustrated with how he looks like. He looks like he doesn't have a single care. Well, it's not care, but an answer or any enthusiasm at all. We talk about fans. We're supposed to be the crazy ones, and we're the ones that are terrified. He looks like he's more afraid than any fan in the crowd.

[Matt Jones]

He looks defeated to me. He looks completely defeated. And I am shocked by that. I thought of all people that have ever coached here, you would never be able to defeat him in terms of energy. I mean, he's the guy that, when he got hired, Shannon was out hugging people on the sidewalk.

[Ryan Lemond]

Right?

[Matt Jones]

Like, I mean, he's constant energy, and he looks defeated. He looks like a man who just hates his life. And they're just. And there comes a point where you have to sit here and take a step back from the game and go, what has happened? I mean, this program, it looks like the players cannot stand each other.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

It looks like they almost have zero desire to be on the court. They make terrible errors. We can talk about the design and roster build, and I think it's clearly faulty.

But they're not even.

[Ryan Lemond]

Like.

[Matt Jones]

They look like a bunch of guys that just met each other and don't. And they. And don't want to be around each other. I've never seen anything like it. And I've never seen a coach that. In four weeks, Ryan seems like a more different person than he did four weeks ago.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm sure you guys got.

[Matt Jones]

I am. I am absolutely baffled by how bad they are.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. I'm sure you guys get the same messages I did. The people that were there. And Drew maybe can say this. The look on Pope's face like, they said, I feel sorry for him. He looks like he has no idea what to do. Like, he's.

[Matt Jones]

But I don't feel sorry for him. I mean, I like him a lot, but I don't feel sorry for him. Like, you. You can't. You're the leader. Like, sometimes you just have to be the one, even if it's put on a fake front. Drew, I don't feel sorry for him. You put this team together. You coached them you told us when they were a Ferrari, like, what's going on?

[Drew Franklin]

And that was a problem for me even before this game. Like, stick your chest out and be the leader of Kentucky basketball. Like, why are you. I keep using the Braveheart reference. Like, we're at war and he's in the back of the pack, hiding behind the back line back there when he's supposed to be in the front. Putting on a good front and some leadership here. Like, just seeing looks so scared makes everyone else so scared.

[Matt Jones]

Let's quote our good friend John Calperi. There's no crying on the yacht.

[Ryan Lemond]

No, there's not.

[Matt Jones]

You're in Kentucky. You spent more money on this roster than anybody else in the country. You played here. You don't get to, like, when the ship's going down, you have to be at the front. And I, I'm baffled. I'm baffled looking at guys that like Otega owe.

Okay. Although sometimes quit on plays.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, he did.

[Matt Jones]

And I. I don't know how much Shannon, I can watch Denzel Aberdeen shoot anymore. And I. And no one just standing out at the three point line. Like, I don't get it.

[Shannon]

It's like a personality issue that this team has like a clash or. And you see, like, you know, loose balls that are just not going after.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, going for. Look, this roster is poorly constructed. Okay? And that's a different que. It's poorly constructed. But Ryan, it ain't getting beat. 35 points in Nashville, poorly constructed.

[Ryan Lemond]

No. And I think that's the thing that scares me the most is like, they're getting worse. Like, they're progressively getting a lot worse. Getting worse.

[Matt Jones]

The Louisville game was a loss, but I actually don't think was something to be embarrassed by.

[Ryan Lemond]

Agreed.

[Matt Jones]

You played Louisville on the road. You played them hard. You came back, you had a shot. The Michigan State loss was kind of embarrassing, but they're pretty good.

I thought the North Carolina loss was embarrassing, but this is a whole nother level.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

This is a whole. You don't lose by 35 points to anybody at Kentucky. And I am. I am at a loss for what has happened. Their roster is bad, Badly constructed, but it's not this bad. Something has happened with this group, and Mark Pope has got to, like. I don't say, hey, go figure it out, but figure it out, because this is. This is ridiculous. Now, we do have to talk about the boot because that's. A lot of people have had strong thoughts. We'll deal with that and take your calls Next here on KSR.

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And.

[Matt Jones]

Doug, here we have the Limu emu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug.

[Doug]

Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.

[Matt Jones]

Cut the camera. They see us.

[Drew Franklin]

Only pay for what you [e-mail] Liberty Liberty, Liberty Savings.

[Matt Jones]

Very underwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company. Affiliates excludes Massachusetts.

Who is this Shannon?

[Shannon]

Fleetwood Mac.

[Matt Jones]

What's his name? What's the song?

[Shannon]

Monday morning.

[Matt Jones]

All right. So, you know, I've actually decided I like Fleetwood Mac. Yeah. I had no exposure to them except for that song that they sang at Bill Clinton's inauguration. I can't remember what it is. And then Silver Spring. That was it. That's all I knew about him. And then over the years, whether it's that one that they say is the hardest song to play or this one, I've decided I like Fleetwood Mac. Is it just because I'm getting older?

[Shannon]

I think so, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You think that's what it is.

[Shannon]

The Fleetwood Mac age.

[Matt Jones]

Where is it, like 40s or Fleetwood. At Mac?

[Shannon]

Yeah, like mid to late 40s.

[Matt Jones]

You start to get Fleetwood Mac.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

You go from 90s hip hop to.

[Matt Jones]

I still like that too, but I kind of like Fleetwood Mac. I meant to say this at the beginning, and I forgot. So let me just go quickly on the schedule. I'm gonna try to be here every morning, show that I can. I may not always be in. In studio or at the bar. I'll try to tell you when I am, but I. I'll try. I'm trying to do as many of these as I can. I won't be doing the game stuff tomorrow. Hopefully, going forward, I'll be able to do most of them, But. But. But I'm gonna try to do the morning shows, but I just gotta say up front, I don't know when I'll be, like, in person, but I'll be around as much as possible. So I just want I feel like I should let people know that because I know sometimes people come and want to see us and remotes we're going to try to do as well. 859-280-2287. All right, so the booing. I'm not a booer, okay? Like, I don't boo anyone except the umpires. Drew, at the Reds game, that's really the only people I ever booed. I do boo the umpires at the Reds game because they're always cheating the Reds.

And I generally am a don't boo college kids. Now, the nil situation has changed stuff a lot in that regard, and it has not changed the mind of whether or not I would boo, but I now understand why people boo a little bit more. You were at the game. One of the things about booing is it can be only a few people, and it can sound like it's everybody because booing's loud. Booing's louder than clapping. Sometimes you'll see, like, the president or something come to a game, it'll seem like the whole crowd's booing, but then they show individual shots, and it'll only be a handful of people. It's just booing can be loud. You're there. What percentage of the audience Drew, do you think was actually booing on Friday night?

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, it was a lot.

[Matt Jones]

Is it?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was a whole lot. And those.

[Matt Jones]

What do we say? What's a lot? 20%? 10%? I'll go 20.

[Drew Franklin]

You know, it wasn't like half of the crowd.

[Matt Jones]

20% of the crowd was booed.

[Drew Franklin]

It felt like it. And I. I didn't boo. And I'm not trying to say I'm too good to boo. My jaw was on the floor and just taking it all in. I'm looking around like, oh, my God, Kentucky fans are booing the home team, like, again. That goes back to just the shock of so many things that happened that night.

[Matt Jones]

And can anybody ever remember boost like that at a Kentucky? It's happened sometimes in football. Can you ever remember any of you that level booing at a Kentucky basketball game?

[Drew Franklin]

They got booed by in the UNC Wilmington loss, but it wasn't a fraction of the booing.

[Shannon]

But this was booing. This was booing with six minutes to go in the first half, booing. This wasn't booming at the end of the game. We were only 14 minutes into the game.

[Matt Jones]

Ryan, do you.

[Drew Franklin]

Not all booze are the same. This was anger. This was. This was coming from the belly. This was like, maybe Even pent up. Going back to past coaching eras and going back, this was like a release of. I am so disappointed in this program the last several years.

[Matt Jones]

Ryan, you've been around long, as long as I have, but actually at the games, can you ever remember it worse?

[Ryan Lemond]

Never. Never. I mean, it was loud and deafening, and in the first half, they booed our team off the court at halftime. I've never seen that. I mean, it was a bad look for us, but I kind of. I'm like you. I'm not a booer. I wouldn't do it, but I understand why some of those people where. They spent a lot of money to watch that team, and then they stunk it up.

[Matt Jones]

I think it's a. Okay, so I think you. I think you guys hit a majority of why I think it happened. All right, so start with five or six years of kind of being disappointed about UK basketball.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

I think that's a part of it. Like, we've. We've not been. What's the stat? We've been to the Saturday of the SEC tournament once in the last seven years. Something like that.

[Drew Franklin]

I think the last time we were there is 2019.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Only been far as we've been to Sweet 16, and that was last year, in the last five or six years. So I think that's part of it. I think another part of it is that we've gotten progressively worse as the season goes around. That we spent allegedly $22 million on the roster. I think that number's high, but we still probably spend as much as anybody in college basketball. That we were told by the staff and. And media outlets who kind of believed it, that this was going to be a Ferrari that we lost at home to North Carolina on Tuesday. And then that we're in Nashville, Everybody's been drinking and partying. It's that rowdy, fun Kentucky crowd. And the one thing Kentucky fans won't accept is quitting and not giving energy. When we had a team last year that wasn't quite as talented, but it always felt like every single one of those guys gave you everything they had. And now this year, you get the exact opposite. Or at least it feels like the exact opposite. Drew. I think it's the combination of all that, and then you come off that moment and there's just this visceral sound. And then when a couple people do it, more join in, and you end up with this sort of chorus of booze.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I think, you know, a lot of it was just the excitement of that trip. We as we've said, you know, these, this might be the only game a lot of people see in person all year. Might be their only chance to show their frustration in the team. Then you throw in all the cocktails that people probably had before on the street. And just how bad that start was to go nine minutes without a basket after you just blew your last game by going 10 minutes or whatever without a basket. A lot of people were bringing that up in the arena. How we've almost had 20 minutes of Kentucky basketball without a field goal. What was it?

[Matt Jones]

19 and a half minutes of Kentucky basketball with two field goals.

[Drew Franklin]

And that's when it just snapped. And it was. I mean, I as. That was a vicious boo. That wasn't all. We're kind of disappointed. Let's play better. That was. I want you to feel how mad we are at you right now.

[Matt Jones]

19 and a half minutes of consecutive basketball against North Carolina and Gonzaga, basically at home with two field goals. I, I wouldn't have done it, but I kind of understand. We'll take your calls. Right. For this. Ksr, TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call tj. He'll make him pay.

[Shannon]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. Techie Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. The Text Machine, 772-774-15254. One person writes, Matt, I'll tell you why you don't see the effort. It's nil. These guys are making money, so they don't feel the need to try as hard. I don't buy that in the least.

[Ryan Lemond]

Other teams have nil guys.

[Matt Jones]

Other teams are playing well. Like there's a high level of college basketball being played all over the country. I would argue outside of Lexington, Kentucky, this is some of the best basketball I've seen in 10 years. Yep, you turn on these games, dudes are giving it even when they're not playing well. I watched some of Michigan State, Duke guys diving everywhere, dudes who are going to have better pro futures than our guys. And.

Yeah, I don't buy that. We are not giving effort, but I don't think it's the money. It's these guys and this team. So you got to adjust. Listen, I watched some of Shannon, Ohio State, Indiana, football. Yeah, those dudes are making money.

[Shannon]

Oh, yeah, they are.

[Matt Jones]

That game didn't even matter and they were going crazy. Right?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Right.

[Doug]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So, yeah, I just don't, I don't buy that. All right, before we go to the phones, I Want all. All four of us to take a vote.

Trying to figure out what's the best way to word about the booing. Acceptable or not in 2025, Kentucky at Gonzaga? Not. Do you understand? Is it acceptable to boo your team in that scenario, Ryan?

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm gonna say no.

[Matt Jones]

You're gonna say no? Even though they make money?

[Shannon]

That's predictable.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

It is. Pretty. Of all the four of us, that was the vote I was most clear we were getting.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Was Ryan was a no.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So explain why it's a no. Explain why it's enough since you took.

[Ryan Lemond]

It out of the equation. Understanding why just booing your eyes, not understanding.

[Matt Jones]

Is it acceptable?

[Ryan Lemond]

No, it's not. Not your own team. Not like that.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Like if somebody did harm to your child and then you hurt that person, that might be. You might understand. But it's not acceptable, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So this is a. So, but. So you're saying that's my vote?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

All right, Drew.

[Drew Franklin]

Without hesitation. Yes, it's acceptable. They are really so bad. I mean, when you don't even try, that's a different story. If you're losing cause shots aren't going in or bad matchup or your coaching fails you, that's you take your loss and you go home. These are guys that are giving no effort. And in four games against teams with a pulse have lost by like a combined 65 points. So sure, it stinks that you build your own team, but it stinks that your team doesn't show up when the lights come on too.

[Matt Jones]

Shannon.

[Shannon]

It is 100% acceptable, Ryan, to boo that team. When you're nine minutes into the game and your best offense is two free throws, you boo that team. These fans paid hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to come to Nashville to watch that. And that deserves to be booed. That was awful. What do you think, man?

[Matt Jones]

Five, nine, two. I'll see. I was hoping you wouldn't.

[Shannon]

No, no, no. You said all four of us.

[Matt Jones]

You're.

[Shannon]

You're included.

[Matt Jones]

No, I was. I was going to just move on.

[Shannon]

No, no, we're not moving on.

[Matt Jones]

Nope.

I would not do it. I would not recommend doing it. But I also think because of the effort, it has nothing to do for me with the money, and it actually doesn't have to do with the performance. Okay. If I felt like Everybody was given 100% effort, engaged, connected, doing all they can, and they just weren't good, then I can deal with that. That's then a problem of roster construction and you deal with the coach and the people who pick the players, and I do think that's part of it. But when you're not giving effort.

And that includes, to me, the coaching staff, I sit there and watch the coaching staff just stare straight ahead.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

For the entire game. Like none. The whole game. I like, to me, they didn't do anything the entire game.

I think it is acceptable. And I can't believe I'm saying that. Two years ago, I would have said, you never boo college kids ever.

I don't know. I think you never boo college kids if they at least make it seem like that doing this matters to them. If they're not good enough, well, that's life. Sometimes we don't get what we want. But if they're not going to even give effort. I can't think of a Kentucky team that didn't give effort. Go to that terrible Kentucky team during COVID They weren't good, but they tried. Yeah, Livy A Saar tried every way to make a shot to win the game through. It just never went in.

[Drew Franklin]

Poor guy.

[Ryan Lemond]

That was just gutless. It was a gutless performance.

[Matt Jones]

I just can't remember. I can't remember a team that seemed to like. I cannot remember any team that liked each other less than this.

[Ryan Lemond]

So that's. That's the big million dollar question. Do you think a lot of it is internally, it hat.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, at this point, it has to be. Look, there have been teams that didn't like each other, okay? Team turmoil in 2002. They did not like each other. I don't really think that Covid team liked each other. But even amongst those teams, Severe Wheeler and Oscar didn't like each other. But even amongst those teams, they found ways on the court sometimes Drew to play connected. And there were even groups of players that liked each other. I'm not saying these guys off the court don't like each other. I don't know. But I've never seen a team that is like, not. They don't. They don't get. They look like they've just met all of them.

[Drew Franklin]

And, I mean, he should have done it a while ago, but whatever's going on, Pope needed to have a team meeting. So y' all figure it out because there's a lot of bigger things going on than whatever y' all have between yourselves. I mean, I don't. Pope clearly doesn't have the fire that maybe some the Patinos, the Caliparis have, but he's got to find something to light into them. Otherwise, I don't know what you do. Heck, for me, I might start Walker Horn and Zach Tallow tomorrow night and try to send a message. Because whatever he's telling them in the locker room, it's not only not working, it's making them go the opposite direction. They're getting worse and seem to hate each other more and more by the day.

[Matt Jones]

He doesn't scream like Cal and Rick, but I know he cares. I mean, I don't know. It is baffling to me how they've played this last week. All right, who's a first?

[Shannon]

Donnie.

[Matt Jones]

Donnie. Go ahead, Donnie.

[Caller (Donnie/Braden/Todd)]

Matt, I'm sorry to hear what you've been going through with your family.

[Matt Jones]

Thank you.

[Caller (Donnie/Braden/Todd)]

You know, I'm in my 70s. I go back a long way. I've never seen a team this dysfunctional. I think it goes to the coach, and I love this guy.

Players are doggin it. I would get in their face. I would meet them on the court. I wouldn't wait for them to come to the bench. I would get in their face. I sent them to the locker room. I don't care about the money. You're playing for the University of Kentucky. This is unacceptable. I'd send them to the locker room and I go through every one of them until I got down to five players. You don't dog it. You go to the locker room and when you decide you want to play, come back out and play. This is totally unacceptable. And this didn't start in the Gonzaga game. It goes back way before that. And the coaches got to hold these players accountable. Matt, how do you fix this problem?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. If I knew how to fix it, I'd say it. I appreciate the call. What's craz is that, like, when they play a bad team, Ryan, they. They look really good.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yep.

[Shannon]

Yeah, they're gonna be. They're gonna be mc.

[Matt Jones]

It's so crazy. I don't know. I don't know what it is.

[Drew Franklin]

NC Central is ranked 350th out of 365. This is gonna be a joke.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, my. Like, they're awful when. But I don't.

I don't know. I will tell you what Terrence Ogleby said. Ryan, do you know Terrence Ogles Ogleby is.

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't know who that is.

[Matt Jones]

He's on field of 68. I think he used to be a coach. Drew, where was he a coach? Xavier, maybe. Where did he coach?

[Drew Franklin]

I'm not sure.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. He's a bald guy. That's on field of 68, actually, I.

[Drew Franklin]

Think he played at Clemson at one point.

[Matt Jones]

I think he does a really good job. And he was talking about Kentucky and he said, look, I really respect Mark Pope, how smart he is, etc. But. But maybe he's just too smart right now. He says he keeps talking about analytic, he keeps talking about inbound efficiency and Burber burn, burn, burn. He uses these big words and he brings in four guys and takes them out and three guys. He's like, they don't even do the basic things. So he was like, if I was Mark Pope, I'd throw out all of my catchphrases, all of my numbers, and say, let's guard the pick and roll. Right? And I actually thought maybe he's in a case riot where as smart as he is, he's gotten into his head and he's almost tried to be too smart, and we've somehow gotten away from just the basics of basketball.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. This offense they're running is nothing like we saw his offense at byu. Like, we were so excited about how they were going to pass the pass and look for the three point shot.

[Matt Jones]

Sorry. Go ahead, Ryan.

[Ryan Lemond]

No, let's go ahead.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, Shannon, find. See if you can find that Terrence Oglesby clip. It's on Twitter.

[Shannon]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

And. Because he can say it better than me, but I thought it was really good when he was talking about it. Who's next?

[Shannon]

Let's go to Braden.

[Matt Jones]

Braden. Go ahead, Bray.

[Caller (Donnie/Braden/Todd)]

This fan base is broken. No Hope and Pope. I got a very special song to play.

[Matt Jones]

All right. I appreciate the call. You're not. It's not a Kentucky fan. No, but that's not a Kentucky fan because the fan base is not broken. We were very, I mean, Adam, positive about Will Stein's hiring. Go look at the crowd for the volleyball games. That's a Louisville fan, so. Or an Arkansas fan. It is no one's fault because they didn't know. But, Shannon, this wasn't the right week for me to have my old comments about Cal going to Arkansas go viral.

[Shannon]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Every time I got online, that's all I saw. It was like, great. So that made me stay away from.

[Shannon]

Being after a 35 point.

[Matt Jones]

Arkansas fans, man, they. They really follow me. I think they may be the fan base that follows me second most. I used to think it was Louisville and Tennessee, but it might be Arkansas. Now. I'm not sure, but see if you can find that during the break. Shannon, it's on Field of 68. Maybe somebody will send you a clip. I just think it's, it's very apropos. Kentucky Skin Cancer center says if you would like to get a gift for your family or friends as a stocking stuffer, try the skin care set for the holidays. They've got replenishing cream, hydraulic serum, moisturizes vitamin C serum. It's a travel skincare set. You can take it with you. 15% off with your code. KSR. And remember, go get yourself checked out out. Make sure there's something that you, that you don't have that you can find. Kentuckyskincancercenter.com It's Kentuckyskincancercenter dot com we'll take a break and be right back. KSR.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Hello.

[Shannon]

Hello.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of the podcast smart talks with IBM. I recently sat down with IBM's chairman and CEO Arvind Krishna and I asked him how can companies use AI to its full, fullest potential to create smarter business? My one advice to them, pick areas you can scale. Don't pick the shiny little toys on the side. For example, if anybody has more than 10% of what they had for customer service 10 years ago, they're already five years behind. If anybody is not using AI to make make their developers who write software 30% more productive today with the goal of being 70% more productive. Yeah. So we are not asking our clients to be the first experiment on it. We say you can leverage what we did. We are happy to bring out all our learnings, including what needs to change in the process. Because the biggest change is not technology, is getting people to accept that there's a different way to do things. To listen to the full conversation, visit IBM.com smart talks.

[Rob Gronkowski]

This is Rob Gronkowski from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and jewels. For the second season in a row, I partnered with T Mobile's Friday night 5G lights powering up hometown football across America. This year, T mobile invested over $4 million in prizes to help schools take their Friday nights to the next level. The votes are in. And now it's time to crown our $1 million grand prize winner. Congratulations to Derrick's High school in Derrick's Arkansas, home of the outlaws and your 2020 5T mobile Friday night 5G lights champion. The Outlaws and their community rallied to help them score a game changing home field upgrade, a Gron Fitness weight room makeover, an epic 2026 tailgate party and a VIP trip to the SEC championship game. To every school that competed posted and rallied your communities, thank you and to T Mobile for making it all possible. This season may be over, but the story isn't. Stay tuned for for season three in 2026. Congratulations again to Derek's high school outlaws.

[Doug]

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[Ryan Lemond]

And.

[Matt Jones]

Doug here we have the Limu emu in its natural habitat helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual.

Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug.

[Doug]

Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.

[Matt Jones]

Cut the camera. They see us.

[Drew Franklin]

Only pay for what you [e-mail] Liberty.

[Matt Jones]

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[Drew Franklin]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back Kentucky Sports Radio. So the vote on here looked like it was like three one that it would be acceptable to boo with Ryan in December it.

Let'S take a vote on the text. I still think you get the best cross section of this fans for me on the text machine. Twitter runs a little negative. Facebook definitely runs negative. Some things like the post game show I think run a little positive. So let's do this. Just yes or no. It wasn't acceptable in that moment for fans to boo. I'm not asking if you would boo, but is it acceptable to do it? Just yes or no. I just want to do a little survey and we'll see. So 772-774-5254 yes or no? Just text it in. All right, so this is what drew. This is Terrence Ogleby when he was talking about maybe Mark Pope being a little too smart to fix this. This Year. Go ahead, play. Because he just doesn't know where to be. This is not what Kentucky basketball has become to known as. Even with Calipari, at least the effort was there. He kept it simple. They switched a lot, that's fine. But the effort was there. Sometimes when they weren't super talented, the effort was there. Now you're over complicating things and I'm tired of hearing about, like, he talks about eccentric loads and workloads and work output and all this stuff that requires three degrees to listen to. How about you just play off two feet, communicate and switch and then make sure when somebody curls, you have post help. Like, what are we doing? Get back to the simple parts of this game as opposed to subbing three guys in every every substitution. It was a very frustrating game to watch. That's kind of where I was at the entire game because these are very simple things. Very. What do you think, Drew?

[Drew Franklin]

He's not wrong. It's a good way to put it. We know Pope likes the analytics and all the detail, but his guys obviously aren't getting the message. Whether he's putting too much on them or he's not doing a good job explaining it. But if they're clearly confused and not doing what you're supposed to be doing. So he should go to the very bare minimum of instruction at this point because any of his advanced metrics and all that is just going in one ear and out the other is how it seems when the players are on the court.

[Matt Jones]

Ryan, you know this.

[Ryan Lemond]

We're in almost mid December. This is when you're fine tuning things before you get into conference play. And with like, we're just getting started. Like, they have no identity whatsoever on offense. I don't, I don't know what kind of offensive team we're supposed to be. And this is the time of year where we should be getting ready to head into like your best play going into conference play.

[Matt Jones]

When I was a kid, Shannon in Middlesboro, sometimes if I would make a lot of my classmates mad, I would have people say to me something to the effect of, yeah, Matt, you might be book smart, but you ain't got no common sense. They would say that to me sometimes, right?

[Shannon]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

And I think I did have common sense. But that was an interesting way of putting it of like, you can know all the numerical formulas and all the analytic, you know, charts and all that, but sometimes you do need to have common sense to be able to walk into a room and like, interact with people in a normal way. I Wonder if Mark Pope just for whatever reason can't have the common sense to interact with this team. They just don't get him. I don't know that that's true. But Shannon, it could be.

[Shannon]

It could be. Yeah. I mean analytics are great in certain situations, but they don't. They're not the end all be all when it comes to winning a basketball game. You know, they don't tell you a player's effort that they're putting out. They don't tell you if a player is having a personal issue which is causing them to play bad that day. I mean there's certain things that you have to take into consideration outside of analytics.

[Matt Jones]

About 8020. Ryan. Yes. Of people saying you're it's acceptable to boot maybe more, maybe 85 15. Does that surprise you?

[Ryan Lemond]

No, not at all.

[Matt Jones]

You think that would have been true five years ago?

[Ryan Lemond]

No, I'm getting ready to say three years ago, maybe not even true. When all the nil stuff was starting to get started. I think it was people would thought it would be unacceptable to boo your own team at basically what was a home game like that.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. But that's changed. And I think, you know, there's good that comes with nil and that may be one of the things you get with more with, you know, to who much is given, much is expected. And that's probably part of it with this as well.

[Shannon]

What's next, Todd?

[Matt Jones]

Todd. Go ahead, Todd.

[Caller (Donnie/Braden/Todd)]

Hey guys. Matt, sorry to hear about your dad. Hope things get better on that end. I took off Friday and I drove the five hours and spent the weekend in Nashville. And I got disagree with Drew. I would say it was 50% booing because that was really, really intense. But another thing.

The. The effort is one thing, but my girlfriend even looked at me within first two minutes of the game. She said why are you guys not playing with any effort? You guys just look like you're just glad to be here. And then it was the one arm passes, the not hustling back. And I'm not trying to say this to be funny by any means, but our offense, I've seen 5th and 6th grade teams run better offense.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, I agree.

[Caller (Donnie/Braden/Todd)]

Than what I saw Friday night.

[Matt Jones]

We're playing five out of Drew, five guys behind the three point line and we don't have anybody you can shoot or drive.

I mean we literally are playing an offense. I appreciate the call that you would play with five sharpshooters. We're playing Golden State's offense. And Ryan, we don't have One guy who can make a 3 consistently, except maybe Colin Chandler.

[Ryan Lemond]

Once we get behind, we become a very selfish basketball team, man. Yeah, we do shoot some bad shots. It's a bad times. It is.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, Aberdeen's shot selection drives me crazy, Drew, but at the same time, there's a part of me that goes, I don't know, man, if you're just standing out there and everybody's just standing around. But I mean, like, there's a play that showcased to me how much this team doesn't like each other. Drew Aberdeen drives the pain. He gets double team. He throws up a shot and it goes nowhere. Always open in the corner. He doesn't pass it to owe. And after he doesn't pass it away, just acts like he shot it, like he does the motion. And it was one of the most kind of blank you things I've seen a player do to a teammate. I mean, maybe those two like each other, but it sure doesn't feel like it.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I saw that go pretty viral. I mean, always pretty much just calling him out for not making the pass, which has been a problem all season with these guys set on court chemistry that they have fallen apart. And on the. On the analytics and Pope relying on that too much when he says things like, well, you know, Brandon Garrison's our most efficient. It's like, no, just use your eyeballs. I don't.

[Matt Jones]

I don't.

[Drew Franklin]

Please do not tell me how efficient Brandon Garrison is.

[Caller (Donnie/Braden/Todd)]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

He might be our best three point shooter, though, so far for one against Gonzaga.

[Shannon]

That's a huge.

[Drew Franklin]

When he says stuff like that, that he's liking too much of the numbers. Like, no one else is seeing that.

[Matt Jones]

No one. No one. All right, so now we all know it's awful. Can it be better? Jaden Quaintance is allegedly, according to Matt Norlander, going to return against St. John's will that help and do you think this can turn around? We will deal with that. Plus, I want to talk a little UK volleyball. They make it to the second round. Will Stein's making moves. Are you going to pull for Oregon in the playoff? We will deal with all that and more in the second hour. The 859-280-2287. SK radio. Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first.

[Doug]

There.

[Matt Jones]

Last one.

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