2025-12-12- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

KSR (Kentucky Sports Radio) – Hour 1

Date: December 12, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones, Ryan Lemond, Drew Franklin, Shannon Dawson, Jerry Tipton
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM)

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Episode Overview

This episode, recorded during a wintry Kentucky morning at KS Bar & Grill, centers on Kentucky basketball’s state of affairs ahead of the pivotal UK vs. Indiana men’s basketball game. The KSR crew examines whether UK risks "becoming Indiana"—a program once elite, now mostly irrelevant on the national stage. Beyond basketball, the hosts preview the newly released 2025 Kentucky football schedule, discuss local snow-day culture, and dig into issues of recruiting, NIL, and sports media ethics. Humor, nostalgia, and honest concern combine, creating an episode reflective of the show’s unique blend of fandom and accountability.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Winter Weather & Local Culture

[03:34–07:28]

• Snow day stories kick off the show, with many Kentucky counties (including Fayette, Louisville, and Morehead) out of school.
• The crew jokes about local weather personalities and their snow forecasts, highlighting playful rivalries between Louisville and Lexington meteorologists.
  • Memorable quote:
    “The weathermen war over snow totals is great because you got Mark Weinberg there in Louisville. You know, he's the sassiest of all of them.”
    — Ryan Lemond, 05:00

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Kentucky vs. Indiana: More Than a Rivalry Game

[07:28–14:18]

• Discussion pivots to the upcoming Kentucky vs. Indiana basketball matchup, described as potentially program-defining.
• Drew Franklin and Matt Jones express real worry: A loss to Indiana might cement perceptions that UK is on a downward path similar to Indiana’s long-term decline.
  • Memorable quote:
    "Are we getting to this Carolina phase or are we getting close to the Indiana phase? To lose to Indiana—I think, Ryan, would make those questions that Mark [Story] asked feel a little stronger."
    — Matt Jones, 09:20
• The discussion references journalist Mark Story’s article (Lexington Herald-Leader) questioning if UK is sliding into irrelevance, much as Indiana did two decades ago.
• Team’s recent disappointments (UNC loss, missed recruits) deepen fan anxiety.
  • Drew Franklin, 10:31:
    "We're two years away from people saying Kentucky has one title in 30 years. It's already been a decade since we've been to the Final Four."
• Ryan suggests the COVID era marked a ‘break point’ after which the program—and the world—felt permanently changed.

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Recruiting & NIL Frustrations

[14:18–18:06, 32:48–34:22]

• The hosts dissect Kentucky basketball’s inability to close on top recruits, with discussion centering on the stories of Lamar Wilkerson, Donovan Dent, and Caleb Wilson.
• Key Issue: Recruits reportedly offer verbals to UK, only to flip late due to more lucrative NIL deals elsewhere (specifically Indiana).
  • Quote:
    “If Lamar Wilkinson, I don't know what we offered him. Let's say we offered him two and Indiana came and said two and a half. I mean, your question is not does he dare two and a half or zero? It's...are you willing to do 500,000 more dollars?”
    — Matt Jones, 15:21
• Ryan is frustrated, asking, “Why aren’t we sweetening?” — suggesting UK’s collectives are getting outmaneuvered.
• Drew estimates Kentucky missed out on three top commits this way, threatening future recruiting classes.

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Panic Over Tournament Prospects

[13:14–14:18]

• The crew discusses UK's increasingly tenuous resume, worried a loss to Indiana could put even an NCAA tournament berth in peril.
  • “At some point you have to have some quality wins.” — Drew Franklin, 13:14

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Football Schedule Preview & Hype

[23:39–28:37]

• Kentucky’s 2025 football schedule is released; the hosts analyze the highlights, challenges, and potential moments for the new coach Will Stein.
• Excitement about hosting Alabama early:
  • Quote:
    "That’s going to be an awesome environment… we probably get crushed, but… it will be under the lights. It’ll be national. We might have Herbie and Fowler for that game."
    — Matt Jones, 24:01
• Humor about predicting success—“11 and 1”—with Drew egging it on:
  • "If we beat Louisville, I mean, we’re going to. Right?"
    — Ryan Lemond, 28:54
• Conversation about schedule structure (home vs. away, top-heavy challenges at the start, bowl hopes at the end).

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Listener Call-ins, Food, and Travel Bucket Lists

[31:52–33:51, 37:01–40:00]

• Callers ask about UK basketball’s leadership, food recs (“Poly Eyes Pizza” in Princeton, KY), and share support for the hosts.
• Talk of writing a Kentucky restaurant guide book.
• Crew reveals dream travel destinations—Italy, Australia, London, Japan, Hawaii.
  • Quote:
    "I would argue if you've not gone outside of, like, Canada, US, Mexico, Italy is as good a place as you're gonna find for a combination of beach, historic, wine, beautiful."
    — Matt Jones, 37:59

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Media Ethics, Anonymous Sources & NIL Transparency

[44:50–51:44]

• Matt Jones addresses comments from Herald-Leader writer Cameron Drummond, who expressed skepticism about KSR’s NIL/JMI reporting due to reliance on anonymous sources and possible “misinformation.”
• Matt and Drew defend their reporting, criticize the lack of proactive journalism from the Herald-Leader, and challenge UK’s ongoing silence.
  • Notable Quote:
    "The idea that one journalist would look at another and say, you got to be careful about anonymous sources. Come on, dude, give me a break."
    — Matt Jones, 47:13
• Drew emphasizes that the KSR investigation started months ago and wasn’t timed to sabotage the program, but rather to seek answers where there were none.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Snow Rivalry & Meteorologists:
  “The weathermen war over snow totals is great.”
  — Ryan Lemond, 05:00
• Nervous About Indiana Game:
  "I'm pretty nervous about this one and have been for a few days."
  — Drew Franklin, 07:53
• UK’s Risk of Becoming Indiana:
  "Are we getting to this Carolina phase or are we Getting close to the Indiana phase?"
  — Matt Jones, 09:20
• Impact of COVID on the Program:
  "I sort of wonder if in the history of America there's going to be...breaking points of society...and then I think Covid is going to be the next one."
  — Ryan Lemond, 10:59
• NIL Losing Out on Top Players:
  “Donovan Dent told him he was coming...Caleb Wilson, Donovan Dent and Lamar Wilkerson told them they were coming. And then they didn't come.”
  — Ryan Lemond, 16:40
• Media Ethics Challenge:
  “It is the blatant hypocrisy for a kid to get on there...and say there's a lot of misinformation out there, then where is your article explaining what the actual deal is? ...You are the newspaper.”
  — Matt Jones, 48:19
• Matt on Anonymous Sources:
  “The Herald literally broke the story that put Kentucky on probation through anonymous sources.”
  — Matt Jones, 47:13
• Basketball’s Fragile Tournament Resume:
  "I'm worried with Saturday...Even if they click and figure it out...I really start worrying about making the tournament.”
  — Drew Franklin, 13:14
• Football Schedule Hype:
  "[Alabama at home] will be awesome...we might have Herbstreit and Fowler for that game."
  — Matt Jones, 24:01

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Conclusion

This episode is a snapshot of a fanbase at a crossroads—anxious about basketball tradition, hungry for answers on recruiting and NIL shortcomings, and bracing for a football season with new faces and daunting challenges. The KSR crew balances honesty and humor, loyalty and skepticism, local flavor and national awareness—making this hour a lively, essential listen for anyone invested in Kentucky sports.

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Key Segments by Timestamp

• Snow Day Fun & Local Weather Rivalry: [03:34–07:28]
• Kentucky-Indiana: A Pivotal Basketball Game: [07:28–14:18]
• Recruiting & NIL Woes: [14:18–18:06, 32:48–34:22]
• Football Schedule Release & Reactions: [23:39–28:37]
• Listener Calls, Food & Travel Lists: [31:52–40:00]
• Media Critique, NIL, Transparency: [44:50–51:44]

Transcript

[Matt Jones]

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[Ryan Lemond]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Ryan Lemond]

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[Ryan Lemond]

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[Ryan Lemond]

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[Shannon Dawson]

This is Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[Ryan Lemond]

Welcome, everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio Friday, December 12th. I'm Matt Jones. On a snowy day all across central and parts of eastern Kentucky, you can give us a shout. Clark's Puppet Shop phone line 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254. This edition, sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office called TJ will make them pay. It is a snow day here at KS Bar and Grill. Fayette County's out of school, right?

[Jerry Tipton]

Most counties, I think, are out of school. Roads were a little dicey last night, but they weren't too bad this morning.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, so we got folks here from Lexington. Let's see, was it. Wait a minute. You tell me. Nicholasville, Morehead. Morehead. And you were Nicholas County. Right. See, look at that. Pretty. Pretty good memory, but nice to have folks who drove in and you can come on out rare Friday here at the bar.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yeah, my man here more drove over this morning. Said it was kind of rough over there, but didn't look bad on the interstate or anything.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I think I got a lot of snow in Louisville, right?

[Shannon Dawson]

Was it Louisville, 4 inches?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, it's a lot more. I think that's more than we got here, so stay safe, Shannon. But, you know, Shannon comes to work no matter what. Did you stay downtown? You know, sometimes they let you all stay downtown for a snow day?

[Shannon Dawson]

No, I made the trip in from Bullock county this morning. Roads were pretty clear for the most part, so it wasn't too bad.

[Ryan Lemond]

See Craig Greenberg keeping those roads rolling?

[Jerry Tipton]

Well, Drew and I noticed that when our local weather guys didn't have the coats off, the sleeves rolled up, it couldn't be too serious.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, people are. People be. You know, the. The weathermen. War over snow totals is great because you got Mark Weinberg there in Louisville. You know, he's the sassiest of all of them.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yes, he's very sassy.

[Ryan Lemond]

Bill Mac and Chris Bailey, they don't like each other, but they try to keep it civil, but, you know, they don't like each other.

[Jerry Tipton]

Right. Oh, they may like each other.

[Ryan Lemond]

They don't like each other. You do, you know, Shannon, Excuse me. You can tell you kind of have to be rivals a little bit. That you do.

[Drew Franklin]

It's part of the. Part of the game.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, they throw little shots at each other. I mean, because Chris Bailey will be like, hey, mech face. Yeah, remember that, Brian?

[Jerry Tipton]

I don't remember seeing mech face.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, there was a couple blizzards ago, and then there's like, oh, Bailey, Smaley. But in Louisville, Mark Weinberg seems to hate the rest of them. And Mark Weinberg's notorious for. You don't scare. Don't scare people. You tell them all this snow's coming in. It's not. He doesn't like that. So he is very. He's conservative on the snow totals. Right? He's. He's a mag on snow total. It's not going to be too many snow to. And then when you get he under. If he under. Does the snow people like, see? Told you so. I picture in Louisville the weather people as the snows fall and cheering it or booing it because they seem to have vested interests. And how much. The more snow, the worse for Weinberg. The less snow, the better for Weinberg.

[Jerry Tipton]

So did he under. Predict this today and get some pushback today?

[Ryan Lemond]

I think he under. I think he maybe said 1 to 2 inches, and I guess it's like 4. And everybody's like, see Weinberg. I was gonna go get bread, and now I can't get bread because you.

[Shannon Dawson]

It's the way he says it, though.

[Ryan Lemond]

Like, he is. He's very sassy, marmy, like, very smart.

[Shannon Dawson]

This is what it's going to be. Don't listen anybody else.

[Ryan Lemond]

Don't listen to the European totals. I got American totals. And he doesn't. He doesn't like it.

[Drew Franklin]

Think how nerve wracking it must be, though. I mean, most days you say it's 74 and sunny, it's 71 and there's a cloud. No one cares. So you're. All your credibility is really determined on these few snow days a year for.

[Ryan Lemond]

Mark Weinberg and Chris Bailey and Mechface. Like the. When the snow comes, it's like it during a basketball game. They get in the shower. Oh, okay. They get nervous. They're pacing back and forth and they're going, come on, God, make it snow more. That's what they do.

[Jerry Tipton]

We've had quite a bit of snow.

[Ryan Lemond]

I can't believe you all didn't know this.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know that part I knew that. I knew the macphace part. Didn't know about the showers.

[Jerry Tipton]

I didn't know the, you know, the inner ins and outs of a local weatherman's.

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't know if the rest of the country's weather people have beef like this, but our weather people have beef. It's all right. So tomorrow's Kentucky, Indiana. I mean, we have to win, right? Like, if we don't win. I don't know if you know this. If you. If we don't win, you have to join the army, little girl. I don't know why.

[Jerry Tipton]

Like, what.

[Ryan Lemond]

Those are the rules. I'm sorry. That's just the rules. But we have to win, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Certainly. Now, I didn't know that aspect. I'll admit. I don't really get nervous about games. I'm pretty nervous about this one and have been for a few days.

[Ryan Lemond]

Why is that?

[Drew Franklin]

I think we'll win. But also said this about North Carolina a week ago. We'll be a favorite.

[Jerry Tipton]

We're at home.

[Drew Franklin]

Crowd will be good, especially with the rivalry coming back. But it's just in the back of my mind, the. But if we don't.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

It's gonna be how ugly that will be. And I said this right before the UNC game, and it didn't pan out that well.

[Ryan Lemond]

So Mark Story wrote in the Herald Leader, and I thought this was. I'm going to actually criticize a Herald Leader writer a little bit later. So let's praise a Herald.

[Jerry Tipton]

Okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

I thought Mark Story had a really good article about is UK turning into Indiana. That was kind of the premise. Are we becoming like. We all acknowledge that Indiana basketball has been relevant for 20 years, and we don't want to consider ourselves to be that. Like, if you look historically at the programs, historically, the six best programs in some order have been Carolina, Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina, Kansas and Indiana. I think you now can probably put UConn in that list. So now you're at seven. Louisville's probably next, but. But really, I sort of do the top six. And UCLA is not ucla. So now you're down to five. And I think generally speaking, Indiana is not Indiana and hasn't been in 20 years. So really you're down to four. North Carolina is kind of wavering, but there's still Carolina and they make the tournament. Most years, I don't think we're even Carolina. So I still think we're in that Duke, Kentucky, Kansas. But we are starting to. Okay, are we getting to this Carolina phase or are we Getting close to the Indiana phase. To lose to Indiana. I think Ryan would make those questions that Mark asked feel a little stronger.

[Jerry Tipton]

Absolutely. Indiana for us old timers is still Indiana. You see that name on the jersey.

[Ryan Lemond]

Only for you all.

[Jerry Tipton]

But you can't let North Carolina come in and punk you and then Indiana come in and punk you. You're back.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do you think we're becoming Indiana if.

[Jerry Tipton]

They lose this game? I think Mark Story makes a very strong argument that we could be in that category. That's why you have to win this game. This is a huge must win game.

[Ryan Lemond]

Because nobody thinks of Indiana as a top program anymore. I mean, I would say if you were to ask someone 25 and under, who are the top programs, I don't think any of them are going to say Indiana. Like, like no more people would say Purdue than Indiana at this point, which has got to drive Indiana fans crazy. But it would probably be true. And there is something symbolic if they come in here and beat us on Saturday with maybe their best player being a guy that Ryan reported was playing here and it didn't happen.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I think we're still a little bit of ways of becoming Indiana, but we're on a path heading straight for it. I mean, we're two years away from people saying Kentucky has one title in 30 years. It's already been a decade since we've been to the Final Four. I mean, I think Kentucky can turn it around, but if we keep doing this, can't get to Saturday of the SEC tournament and can't get past the second or third game of the NCAA tournament, then those. The drought gets long enough that I think you can say that. And we're not too far from it.

[Ryan Lemond]

And you know, it's been, for me, it's like since COVID I mean, Covid. I sort of wonder if in the history of America there's going to be like, there are these little, like, breaking, like, like changing points of society. It's like World War II, I don't know, Vietnam and then maybe the. I don't know. Actually, I don't know that there's another one. Then 9, 11. And then I think Covid is going to be the next one. I think that's kind of like sort of the four break. Like things in society changed at this point. And I think Covid is one for a variety of reasons. But when it just comes to Kentucky basketball, it does feel like Covid was a changing point, that everything's been worse since then. And I don't know, I feel Like Saturday's gonna. I feel like Saturday matters more than it should.

[Jerry Tipton]

I do too, man. And we all thought maybe, maybe, you know, this was supposed to be the year we get back to relevance. We started out, what top three in the country, beat Purdue in the exhibition game. We're pounding our chest, thinking we're back making a run to a title and it's just kind of falling apart since then. So I think this is huge for the perception of Kentucky basketball. They have to win this game till tomorrow.

[Ryan Lemond]

And there's been a lot of negativity since the Gonzaga game. I mean, the KSR story obviously has probably been the centerpiece of it, but the Athletic has a story this morning about it's a little different. It's kind of focused on how bad this team is and sort of how did we get here to where this team is bad. You know, field of 68 did A grades halfway or you know, a quarter way into the season. And the only F went to Kentucky, which I think is probably fair. You know, this. I don't think beating Indiana cures it, but maybe it puts, as Barney would say, Shannon, a miracle. Salve on it a little bit to help the bleeding. At least until next week.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, we need something. We just need this win just to be able to feel good about what's ahead for this team because the SEC schedule is coming up and that's going to be. I mean, I know the SEC isn't what it has been, but it's still going to be tough.

[Ryan Lemond]

We may feel it. We actually may take a deep breath when the SEC comes. At least the hardest game is at Alabama and that's the first one. But then after that it's actually starts to become a little more doable.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm worried with Saturday, even people that are optimistic thinking this will get turned around at some point. Your resume will be too bad. Even if they click and figure it out. I mean if you go oh and five in these games, two of them being Rupp arena where you're a favorite, right? Like I really start worrying about making the tournament, even if they do come together in February, just because at some point you have to have some quality wins.

[Ryan Lemond]

I. Listen, I'm not saying we're in the tournament and we're going to have. We got a decent chance of having six non conference losses. I mean, you're going to get to the point that if you keep losing these games, I know the conference is down, but we've had years where the conference was down. We still go 14, four. Well, 14 and four. If we have six losses, gives us 10 losses going into the. Still going into the tournament, they dropped.

[Drew Franklin]

To a non seed on the bracketology. I know that doesn't.

[Ryan Lemond]

I can't believe we're in any seed. We haven't beaten anyone. What's Our best quality win 300 in the country? I mean, we haven't beaten anybody, but.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yeah, that's why the tomorrow's game kind of scares me a little bit because there's so much on the line, I think as far as Kentucky basketball goes, that Lamar Wilkerson comes in and shoots, hits 10 threes again.

[Ryan Lemond]

So what do we do about that? Like, what if Lamar Wilkerson. I kind of dread this game for you.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Have you been looking at this like this is. People are going to be mad at me.

[Jerry Tipton]

Well, especially after he had 10 threes the other night, scored 44 points. I thought, oh, boy.

[Ryan Lemond]

So remind people why you were. Because I was, I was gone. Remind people why you were so convinced he was coming.

[Jerry Tipton]

He was down to the, you know, the final minutes of his commitment. And I got a note from a source that has been right every single time.

[Ryan Lemond]

Every time except one.

[Jerry Tipton]

Well, after that point, he was right every time.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay, gotcha.

[Jerry Tipton]

He said, hey, Wilkerson has committed to Kentucky. It'll be announced tomorrow. So we come on the show the next morning, make the announcement. By the time the show's over, he's committed to Indiana.

[Ryan Lemond]

So what happened? What did the source say happened?

[Jerry Tipton]

Indiana came after him with a better deal. They sweetened the pot, got a better deal for him.

[Ryan Lemond]

So that, you know, in the KSR story, that's what they said happened with Caleb Wilson too. Last minute pot sweetener. Why aren't we sweetening?

[Jerry Tipton]

Exactly?

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, we're Kentucky. I mean, there comes a point, I think there comes a point, Drew, when you're looking at this, where, okay, if you're. It's sort of like I kind of looked at Stoops as buyout a little bit differently. When somebody said to me, okay, Matt, yes, we owe 37 million, but let's say we bring him back. How much do we owe him after next year? And the answer was 27 million. He's like, so really the difference is not 37 or 0, it's $10 million. It's 37 or 27, which is just a different way of looking. The math. If Lamar Wilkinson, I don't know what we offered him. Let's say we offered him two and Indiana came and said two and a half. I mean, Your question is not does he dare two and a half or zero? It's you were already going to give him two. So are you willing to do 500,000 more dollars? And if you believe that we spent $22 million, then I'd hate to have thought 500,000. What's the difference between 22 and 22.5? I mean, at some point, like we stink or do you think. Think they just didn't think they needed.

[Drew Franklin]

It on him specifically that they like hired his high school coach or somebody close to him. They sweetened the pot with that. Kentucky couldn't do it. But that's still true in several other recruits like Caleb Wilson. Like if you're. And he's already interested in you, I mean, I'm pretty convinced we've had several verbal commits and just couldn't get over the hump.

[Ryan Lemond]

Donovan Dent told him he was coming. I mean they had last year, Caleb Wilson, Donovan Dent and Lamar Wilkerson told them they were coming.

[Jerry Tipton]

Wow.

[Ryan Lemond]

And then they didn't come. And you know, why I guess is, you know, is in the eyes of whoever did it. Yeah. But three, three top guys. I mean, top guys. Now, Donovan Dent has not ended up being great at ucla, but they all.

[Drew Franklin]

Three told him they were going to come. And in the current class, I mean, there's stories out just from yesterday from national people about how Kentucky had Stokes in October and just, you know, fumbled him. And maybe what happens if we lose both those guys?

[Ryan Lemond]

If we win Stokes or college because.

[Drew Franklin]

Both were at the finish line pretty much ready. Or the reports from not just local, like that's national people saying Kentucky had complete control of both those guys.

[Ryan Lemond]

Are we gonna win tomorrow?

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

We'll be about a four point favorite. We'll cover. We'll all be smiling.

[Ryan Lemond]

Shannon, we gonna win tomorrow.

[Shannon Dawson]

You know, I actually, I think they will because you got to get one of these. You can't go Owen. You still got St. John's coming up next weekend.

[Ryan Lemond]

I know. I'll just note I've been a hot streak of. When you three pick something else and I go like I had the Falcons last night.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I was on the Falcons.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, you were. Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

But we're experts.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's true. We are experts. That's a good point.

[Shannon Dawson]

Point we're doing.

[Ryan Lemond]

We're paid for the NFL. 859-280-2287. The text machine is 772-774-5254. We will take a break. We are here at KS Bar and Grill. This is Kentucky Sports radio, what a.

[Matt Jones]

Matchup we got, y'.

[Ryan Lemond]

All.

[Matt Jones]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. Game like this, yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and in ice cold Coca Cola, that's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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[Ryan Lemond]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. I was just telling this story. I don't know if I'm supposed to tell this story.

[Jerry Tipton]

Well, I was into the story because I'd never heard it before. Yeah, it's a great story you're starting.

[Ryan Lemond]

We'll just keep this shit in between us. All right, so, yeah, first take is on right here. They filmed this in Seaport, which is down next to, like, in Manhattan. It's down the bottom end of the island on the. Think about where the World Trade center is. It's like on the other side of the island, so the east side of Manhattan, but not. I mean, it's only a few blocks from the World Trade center, but that's where they film this. And one time, you may remember, I had to do this show there. Remember I had to borrow the studio there because I left the equipment.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

So I went down there. They let me in. And as I was getting off the subway, I was walking from the subway, a limo pulled up or like a. Like an SUV with multiple SUVs behind it. And I was thinking, oh. Because I knew first take was there. I was thinking, maybe they're having like a huge guest on.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Like, there was like four limos. I was like, is. Is the president is like Obama coming on here? Like, what's. What's going on? And all of a sudden he gets out, Stephen A. And he is surrounded. Immediately these other people get out and like, they. They escort him in. It's like, you know, probably six security guards. And I look around and there ain't one other person anywhere. Nobody chasing me. Not only is there nobody, like, like, it's Cold outside. There's no one anywhere. And so as they were walking in, I kind of joined the group to act like they. Like they were escorting me, you know, let me in with. But it was funny. Like, he had. He had an entourage of security.

[Drew Franklin]

That doesn't surprise me, really, with his ego. Just think every morning he does that. Probably to the same empty sidewalk.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. I mean, there's. There's like a mall area down there. So I'm sure if the weather's good, there probably are a lot of people. But this was. Was weather like this, there was nobody. There was no one else.

[Shannon Dawson]

We should start doing that for us. Even though we should.

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't have any. I have no. My mom is always like, you all should have security. And I'm like, I would feel silly. We got. We got Billy. What do we need?

[Drew Franklin]

Mario.

[Ryan Lemond]

He breaks. He breaks things. Yeah. So that will work. Text machine is 772-774-5254. I'll get to text in a second. But football schedule came out. Yes.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yes, it did.

[Ryan Lemond]

SEC football schedule. I tweeted. I tweeted it out and I said we were going to be 11 and 1. I think people didn't realize I was being a little facetious in saying that.

[Jerry Tipton]

Took you serious. The national people take you serious?

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't know. But fans of other schools. So let's go through it. We open with Youngstown State.

[Jerry Tipton]

Big win. Will Stein era opens with a big win.

[Ryan Lemond]

Then week to the Alabama Crimson Tide come to Lexington. They're not easing Will into this. Bama comes to town. When I saw this, here's what I thought. Drew, that's going to be an awesome environment. If you look at the SEC schedule that week, there are no other good games between two SEC teams, which means this is going to be ABC under the lights, prime time. It's going to be right here, and it's going to be awesome. Like, we probably get crushed, but the environment for that week to September 12th, I'd buy the tickets now because that'll be a full stadium and it will be under the lights. It'll be national. We might have Herb street and Fowler for that game. If we don't, we'll have somebody good. It'll be great.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

When they first pop it up on the reveal, Alabama week two, it's kind of like, whoa. But then you think about it. You got to play them at some time. We already knew they're on the schedule. Let's just get it out of the way. As we saw this year, Alabama Took a bad loss early in the season. It takes him a little while to get going.

[Ryan Lemond]

Actually, it might be 3:30 because Texas plays Ohio State. That game. That, that. That'll probably be the night game. So let's just say it'll be 3:30, but go ahead.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, we've been in that spot the last couple seasons with SEC and all. That hadn't gone well for us. But yeah, I mean, sure, Will Stein probably didn't expect Alabama would be his first SEC game, but let's go ahead, get over the way.

[Matt Jones]

Let's go bring.

[Drew Franklin]

Expectations will be a little low. His debut, you know, if he's playing a Vandy or a Missouri or something, there'd be. You'd want him to win right away.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, yeah. It'll be fun. Like. And I also like playing week two and week three. Let's just play the games. We'd probably lose anyway so we can kind of get our feet under so then we can play the games that we have a chance to win. Right. Because like when you play Ole Miss or South Carolina week and then you lose, like, we knew the season was over with Alabama. We're expecting to lose anyway.

[Jerry Tipton]

Welcome to the sec. Will Stein. And the schedule is kind of top heavy. Like you said, they've got those games.

[Ryan Lemond]

Open the season week three at A and M back to back. I mean, come on.

[Shannon Dawson]

Alabama game, though, is house money. But if you were to win that game.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, it'd be.

[Shannon Dawson]

You're an absolute.

[Ryan Lemond]

Can you imagine if we won that game? Yeah. Can you imagine, like, can you imagine what this city would be like if Will Stein were to beat Alabama in.

[Drew Franklin]

His second game after putting 70?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. I mean, stop it. That would be. It's not gonna happen. We've only beat Alabama twice in the history of this school, which is an amazing stat.

[Jerry Tipton]

Are you saying there's a chance?

[Ryan Lemond]

But you know, there's a chance then at A and M, then we hit. Well, hold on.

[Drew Franklin]

Hear me out. On A and M, maybe they don't change their playbook. We have their defensive coordinator. It's earlier in the year. They're still running this year's plays like.

[Ryan Lemond]

Shannon Dawson in reverse.

[Drew Franklin]

We go in and we steal that one too. We're now three and. Oh, Matt.

[Ryan Lemond]

If we're.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know how we got here in the conversation, but let's keep it.

[Ryan Lemond]

All right, so South Alabama's week four, Then you get that. Let's say you lose those first two games, now you get your legs back and then you hit a stretch Where I think these are the important games at South Carolina. That's always a swing game.

[Jerry Tipton]

Always.

[Ryan Lemond]

Although didn't we go there last year? We have to go there two years in a row.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

That's where they reset the schedule.

[Ryan Lemond]

LSU at home. Winnable. Next year. Gonna be winnable. I know they'll have Lane, but. But it's winnable because they're not built yet.

[Drew Franklin]

We know their place too.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. At Oklahoma and then we finish with Vanderbilt at Tennessee, Florida at Missouri, home Louisville. You can win some of those games. So like they have the first half of the season to get their feet under them and then you can win some games in the second half and maybe make a bowl.

[Drew Franklin]

Got a bye week before Tennessee. Bye week on Halloween weekend. That's, that's rare. Have that weekend off. Yeah, we'll break before Knoxville.

[Matt Jones]

That'll help.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's good. We like to trick and treat.

[Jerry Tipton]

Just one bye week in the new schedule format.

[Ryan Lemond]

What?

[Jerry Tipton]

Just one bye week in the new schedule format.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's, that's tough with a nine game sec.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yeah, it is.

[Ryan Lemond]

But it's in a good spot.

[Drew Franklin]

We'll take it.

[Ryan Lemond]

I actually don't mind this. I would rather, I'd rather it be top heavy next year, especially with Will. Stop Will Stein finding his feet. And if you could win, and again, I don't think he probably will, but if you could win Alabama at A and M or that at Oklahoma, if you could find a way to win one of those, you would kind of launch your, your whole thing and I like it.

[Drew Franklin]

At the end of the year, you have Missouri and Louisville at home. Or not Missouri, who's the Vandy? You have two home games. Florida, Florida and Louisville home instead of this, you know, we played Tennessee Tech last year on Senior Day. Nobody's there. It's been that way for a few years. You're actually closing your home schedule with.

[Ryan Lemond]

Florida and Louisville at home with at Missouri in the middle. I mean, you can look at that and go, why can't we win all three of those to finish the season? Why can't we, why can't we win all three of those? It's, you know, it's a great home.

[Jerry Tipton]

Schedule with Alabama, Louisville, John Sumrall in Florida, Lane Kiffin and lsu.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, it's a great home scale for people. Like, I'm canceling my season tickets. I'd wait a year.

[Jerry Tipton]

Amen.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, Alabama, lsu, Florida, Louisville, that's a pretty good, that's a pretty good group right there.

[Drew Franklin]

We got to give some raw A little welcome home to in that spot.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. And I think the other one is what? Vandy. Yeah. So you got the homes. Tickets are Youngstown State, Alabama, South, Alabama, lsu, Vandy, Florida, Louisville. It's a pretty good group, right?

[Drew Franklin]

See on Atlanta, 11 to 1.

[Ryan Lemond]

Dude, if we beat Louisville, I mean we're going to. Right?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean we'll probably be fiverr. We might lose one or two games. Okay. We're gonna win. We'll take a break. Take your calls. Right. For this ksr.

[Drew Franklin]

TJ Smith, personal injury attorney.

[Jerry Tipton]

Call tj.

[Ryan Lemond]

He'll make him pay.

[Shannon Dawson]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Ryan Lemond]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Here it's KS Bar and Grill. I got folks who've come in from all over on a snow day. You can bring your kids out here and feed them food, build a snowman out. Yeah, I don't know if we can. There's. We don't want them building snowman. There's. Snow's gone. We put salt out there so people don't fall.

[Jerry Tipton]

There we go.

[Drew Franklin]

I guess.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. 859280, 2287. It is baffling to me how many people, Louisville, Tennessee and Arkansas fans think I was serious about the 11:1. Do they really think that? I think we're going 11:1 with that schedule. I mean, we are, but like they. Do they really think that I'm serious?

[Drew Franklin]

Part of you. Part of you is joking.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. I mean a small part.

[Drew Franklin]

The Internet.

[Ryan Lemond]

If we went 11 and 1, which one are we most likely to lose? Oklahoma, probably at A and M. Yeah, I'm gonna give them that one. Rest of them though. We're winning.

[Drew Franklin]

I think Bama's in for a rude awakening.

[Jerry Tipton]

When's the last time we played Oklahoma?

[Ryan Lemond]

Didn't we play him in like the Orange bowl in 1950 might be the answer.

[Jerry Tipton]

Is that the answer?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know if we played them since then, but I remember people always saying we played that game in 1950. I know in 790 some of you said that. It's just like the show went off. Shannon. It was just a ringing dial tone.

[Shannon Dawson]

I don't even know.

[Ryan Lemond]

Serious question. Is there any other show in America that has as many technical difficulties as are?

[Shannon Dawson]

No.

[Ryan Lemond]

Like, I sometimes I feel bad because I always like write and complain or verbally complain, but I've been listening to radio my whole life and I've never turned it on and just heard a dial throw song.

[Jerry Tipton]

I tell you what else, like Ever.

[Ryan Lemond]

I've never won one time on any station have I turned it on and it was just mariachi music all of a sudden. And it feels like I get told this every couple weeks and can't be that. This is what it's like everywhere.

[Jerry Tipton]

We all listen to the radio in our car at home. Have you ever heard a fire alarm go off during the show?

[Ryan Lemond]

No, I've never heard anything except music and people talking. But this show, you never know what you'll hear. It might be a horse just named for 10 minutes. I can't even think of a show.

[Drew Franklin]

That just drops off the air while either.

[Ryan Lemond]

No, I mean, you know, it is what it is. There's no reason to get frustrated.

[Jerry Tipton]

Part of the charm.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I have your Oklahoma answer, by the way.

[Ryan Lemond]

When's the last time we played Oklahoma?

[Drew Franklin]

We did get them in 1951. Went up 10 in the series, but then they played twice in the 80s and we lost both.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

We lost 29 to 8 and 29 to 7.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Kind of random there. So don't let them get to 29.

[Ryan Lemond]

We'll get them. 859-280-2287. Who's up first?

[Shannon Dawson]

Cal.

[Ryan Lemond]

Cal. Go ahead, Cal.

[Caller]

Hey, good morning, guys. Ksr. How y' all doing today?

[Ryan Lemond]

Doing good.

[Caller]

First time caller.

[Ryan Lemond]

Who are.

[Caller]

So I actually got a quick question and. And also a recommendation. My quick question is, was y' all excited as I was when Pope got into Garrett Garrison's face and told him to go sit down?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I was, because I think it was needed. I mean, Garrison, I don't think it's been. I don't think it's like saying. Going out of school to say he's. He's been. He's been an issue all year. And maybe that chewing him out, not playing him in the second half, maybe that turns him around. Maybe it helps. We'll see. I mean, the team turned around when he did that.

[Drew Franklin]

Sure did.

[Ryan Lemond]

They went on a 16.0run right after he did it. So it. Maybe it had some of some positive effect.

[Caller]

Sure. And my recommendation is, is that I've heard that y' all went to a bunch of pizza places as well. So I got a recommendation for y'. All. So out Western Kentucky, over in Princeton, Kentucky, there is a pizza place called Poly Eyes Pizza. And if you ever. If y' all never been there, I advise y' all to go because their deep dish is to die for.

[Ryan Lemond]

I appreciate the call. The Princeton Poly Eyes Pizza. I will put that on the list. I still would like to at some point put on a restaurant guide for Kentucky book. The problem is, I don't know whenever I would ever do it. And, you know, I thought about even like hiring somebody to go and like, test it and create. Because I think it would be good if you had a here's the best place to eat in every town, every county. Yeah, I think that would be a really cool thing to have. I just don't know that I would ever do it, but I'd love to do. I think if we publish that and sold it, I bet we could sell a lot of copies of Best place to eat in all these Towns in Kentucky. Wouldn't. Wouldn't that be good?

[Jerry Tipton]

Be awesome. We've gone to some really cool places over the years. I like women. Was it called 5 Broke Sisters?

[Drew Franklin]

We stopped 5 Bro Girls. I'm really coming back from Nashville, but.

[Ryan Lemond]

I feel like we haphazardly know where to eat.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

If we were able to like Monticello Pool hall. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

All the hits.

[Ryan Lemond]

But I don't know that we'll. We will. We will do that.

[Jerry Tipton]

What is Princeton? Is that Caldwell County? What county?

[Ryan Lemond]

It is Caldwell.

[Jerry Tipton]

Okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yep, it is. 859-280-2287. Who's up next year?

[Jerry Tipton]

Jerry.

[Ryan Lemond]

Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry.

[Caller]

Hey, Matt. First off, I want to say, you know, after a while with my dad, last six months, you and your family are my prayers and. And I wish you nothing but the best as you work your way through this.

[Ryan Lemond]

Thank you.

[Caller]

And. But, but you know me, I was a big summer all guy and I have to say I've been really pleased everything Will Stein's done. He reminds me of a lot of Frank Hershey because they were both in the mid-30s and they got hired young, aggressive, offensive guys. Hopefully he's found a good defensive coordinator. I think he has to be excited about what's to come and it's going to be interesting to watch. But I don't know how much you followed all the stuff with somewhere down Florida, but that's gonna be interesting to watch too, because he's walking to a horn's nest down there.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I'm actually not gonna do that to myself, to be honest with you, Jerry, like the summer all stuff. I hope he has success at Florida. I think it does Will Stein a disservice to compare what Will Stein does at Kentucky with what. I just think that's a mistake.

[Caller]

That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, is that where Stein's going to have a Bit of a honeymoon here to get his stuff in place. S is not going to have that. If he didn't win nine games next, they think they have a playoff team down there. If he'll win nine games down there next year, he's gonna be on the hot seat. And so Strickland, they think they didn't get kissing because. Because Strickland was too much of a straight lace barney clone.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, he is called Jerry. Here we go. I mean, you can feel Jerry get worked up. Like, Jerry, he'll start, he'll be measured, and then it's almost like a lawnmower. You can feel him like. And then he's. He's gone. I don't really care what happens to Florida. I want Will Stein to succeed. And Sumrall has some options. Like, he's got some things down there. He's got a better roster than we do next year. Jerry's right. Florida's supposed to be good next year. So he might go and win nine or 10 games. That doesn't mean he would have done it here, and that doesn't mean Will Stein wouldn't have done it there. Right, Drew? It's their different situation, different situations.

[Drew Franklin]

But Jerry is right that they're gonna be so mad when he loses at Kentucky on November 14th.

[Jerry Tipton]

That's another scheduled blip. Where Florida's home two years in a row here.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. The reset.

[Ryan Lemond]

When do we play them this year? Is it. How late in the year is November 14th? So it could be cold. Yeah, we said that, I think this year. And then it wasn't cold.

[Drew Franklin]

It was not cold at all.

[Jerry Tipton]

It's corporate. But we won anyway.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, but maybe. Maybe this year it's cold.

[Drew Franklin]

Gonna get another Florida coach fired.

[Jerry Tipton]

We've done pretty good at that over the years.

[Ryan Lemond]

859-280-2287. One person writes, Matt, I would like to know this answer from all of you.

[Jerry Tipton]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Ready?

[Ryan Lemond]

All right.

[Drew Franklin]

See him lock in.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. What do you. Where would you all like to go in the world that you haven't been on a vacation? All right, Ryan's answer is going to be the worst. So let's. He's going to say something like Myrtle Beach. What would you say, Drew?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't want to give the lame answer, but Italy is high on my bucket list.

[Ryan Lemond]

Because you've never been to Italy.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I haven't done much traveling out that way. Maybe to be a little different, because that's like, one of the most popular answers. I'll say Australia, go check on Max and see what they've got going on over there.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay. I like that answer. You can say Italy. Everyone should. I would argue if you've not gone outside of, like, Canada, us, Mexico. Italy is as good a place as you're gonna find for a combination of beach, historic, wine, beautiful. Like what?

[Drew Franklin]

Carbs.

[Ryan Lemond]

Car. Yes.

[Jerry Tipton]

Food.

[Ryan Lemond]

Like the. Italy is probably the best combination of all of that stuff. You could. You could. So if you haven't been. I totally get that. Shannon, what would you say?

[Shannon Dawson]

I have three, but I'm trying to, like, narrow.

[Ryan Lemond]

This guy's only letting you go to one place.

[Shannon Dawson]

I guess if I had to pick one. London, England.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay. But that's. That's very do. Well, Now, London. You love New York, right? Right. London's a lot like New York.

[Shannon Dawson]

I think that's why I would like it.

[Ryan Lemond]

But I think that. I think you would like it a lot. Yeah. I think for me, next would probably be Japan. You know, I haven't. Haven't ever been. I think that would be a lot of stuff to see there. And, you know, it's just completely different world. So I would say Japan is next for me. Now. Now, Ryan, let's play a game.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

What is Ryan gonna guess?

[Shannon Dawson]

Gatlinburg.

[Ryan Lemond]

He's gonna say. He thinks he's like, Gatlinburg.

[Drew Franklin]

Have you been to Branson, Missouri?

[Jerry Tipton]

I have not.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

All right. I'm gonna. I have. I don't know the place he's gonna say, but I have a guess that I'll say after of the kind of thing he's gonna say. Where would you like to go?

[Jerry Tipton]

There's been one place since I was a little kid dreamed of going to. Won't change. And I'm gonna go there for a die. Hawaii.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Good.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's good.

[Jerry Tipton]

At some point in my life, I'm.

[Ryan Lemond]

Going, by the way, I was correct in my head. I said, he's going to say somewhere in the US Or Mexico. And Hawaii is in the US Or Mexico.

[Jerry Tipton]

I've been to Paris. You've been to Rome.

[Commercial Announcer]

I've been to London.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, traveled.

[Ryan Lemond]

And I don't think you liked it. Right. You don't. I loved it. But I mean, is there not a part of you that would see outside of this and go, I'd like to go to. And you can pick the continent.

[Jerry Tipton]

Hawaii.

[Ryan Lemond]

Hawaii. On this continent, as a matter of fact, in this country, one of the.

[Jerry Tipton]

Most beautiful places in the world.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm going, but there are other beautiful places.

[Jerry Tipton]

Yeah, I've seen them.

[Ryan Lemond]

So I'm going To see everywhere else.

[Matt Jones]

That's beautiful.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, all of them.

[Shannon Dawson]

You know, Kentucky gives in the Maui Classic. I mean, we can make that happen.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I mean, like, that's very doable.

[Jerry Tipton]

I hope it is. So Pope, get us in the Maui Invitational so we can all go. Take.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, you don't. It doesn't have to be the Maui invitation.

[Jerry Tipton]

That's why I'm going. At some point in my life, I'm going to go to Hawaii.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay. All right, well, what's second? Is there anything outside of the US Or Mexico?

[Jerry Tipton]

Australia would probably be my second.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay. All right, now that's.

[Jerry Tipton]

You two can go together, hold hands and.

[Drew Franklin]

And seven Max.

[Ryan Lemond]

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[Matt Jones]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[Drew Franklin]

All.

[Matt Jones]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat, everybody. Showing that school pride. A game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

[Drew Franklin]

Mmm.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And in ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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[Matt Jones]

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[Ryan Lemond]

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[Ryan Lemond]

And I'm Laquan Jones.

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[Drew Franklin]

The Chiefs come on a flip pass.

[Ryan Lemond]

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[Shannon Dawson]

Digit points this week.

[Ryan Lemond]

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[Ryan Lemond]

So I want you to get to go since you like it so much.

[Jerry Tipton]

I just always been in a kind of a dream as a kid to go to Hawaii. I want to see, you know all the touristy stuff there and so yes, Mark Pope, get us back in the Maui Invitational.

[Drew Franklin]

Lexington Catholic plays there next week. They're leaving Sunday. You should try to get really get a radio.

[Ryan Lemond]

Lexington Catholic plays there.

[Drew Franklin]

A friend just texted us.

[Jerry Tipton]

Wow.

[Drew Franklin]

They're heading to Honolulu.

[Ryan Lemond]

Is there a. Is there a Kentucky. Is there a Kentucky Indiana line yet for tomorrow?

[Shannon Dawson]

I haven't seen it. We looked this morning but couldn't find it.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I don't see one either. So probably. What do you got? I would say Kentucky by three or four, five, something like that. That's just my guess. It's probably what it would be called.

[Drew Franklin]

Three and a half.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, that would be. That's just a guess. I have no idea.

[Drew Franklin]

But we're covering that.

[Jerry Tipton]

They just have to win. I mean, that is just a must win for Pope and his program after the article came out this week. I mean, they need a win.

[Ryan Lemond]

All right, I want to play something right here, and I think it's important when you hear any of these things to just think about where they come from, etc. So. And like, what may be behind them. So the radio station in Louisville, espn, Louisville, they had on Cameron Drummond. He is the college basketball reporter. He's one of the two for the Herald Leader. And he was asked about the JMI situation in the story that KSR did. And just in the guise of fairness, I want to play his comment and then respond to it. So he was asked, basically, what do you think of all that's come out this week? And here's what he had to say.

[Caller]

Why is Tyron Stokes not signed to be a Wildcat today? Why is Christian Collins not signed to be a Wildcat today? I would certainly caution people with a lot of the reporting that's been out there from taking all of that 100% at face value, especially when there's anonymous sources involved, and especially when you don't necessarily know whose interests are being served with whatever kind of reporting article quotes are out there. You know, again, a lot of times when you're quoting agents and collective type people, I think it's important to understand which side of the coin are these people on. Would they stand to benefit, would they stand to not benefit from something like the jmi? DI I will say that I think there's a whole lot of misinformation and some of the common narratives that are certainly easy to push at a time when Kentucky doesn't have a 20, 26 basketball recruit signed and the current team with a $22 million payroll is severely underperforming to begin the season.

[Ryan Lemond]

So I wanted to play that because it's gotten a little bit of traction online, and it's basically people saying, look, here's the Herald reporter saying, you know, what's the narrative KSR is trying to push. I'll just. I. I want to say this respectfully, because I'm sure this kid is a nice kid. I do not know him, but I was very frustrated by that comment. First of all, you know, this. This doesn't mean what he said isn't valid. But Cameron Drummond was a. Was a. He worked for an Indiana fan site, right? He's an Indiana fan, which is totally fine. But I do think is, you know, that's part of it. You can say, I went to Duke Law. You're an Indiana. He was on Inside the Hall, the big Indiana podcast. So I think that's worth noting. Secondly, I think it's very hypocritical for any journalist to criticize using anonymous sources and to say, where. Look where the reporting's coming from. The Herald literally broke the story that put Kentucky on probation through anonymous sources. Right? The idea that one journalist would look at another and say, you got to be careful about anonymous sources. Come on, dude, give me a break. But secondly, what I would say to someone that writes at the Herald that says, you gotta be careful. This is one side of a narrative. Where has your reporting been on this? This has been going on for six months. Y' all are the actual journalist, right? Like, we're a fan. The Herald Leader's job is supposed to be to find out questions like this. Where have you been? When you say there's misinformation. Here's my question for you, Herald Leader. What is the true information? Cause y' all haven't published it. Have you seen anything that. That, that. That says what the deal is with jmi?

[Drew Franklin]

I've not. But also can't afford the Herald Leader these days.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. So. Well, I have it, and y' all haven't written it. So I think it is the blatant hypocrisy for a kid to get on there. And I don't mean to kid disparaging. He may be in his late 20s, I'm not sure. But for a reporter to get on there and say there's a lot of misinformation out there, then where is your article explaining what the actual deal is? Where is. You are the newspaper. You are literally in charge of this stuff. You can't go on the radio not say what we're wrong about cast aspersions. And you have given nothing. So that really frustrated me by that guy. I went on there, I was gonna, like, just send him a DM and go, hey, man, where did that come from? And I realized he wasn't Even following me on Twitter, which, by the way, he doesn't have to follow me. But I did find that odd. I was following him like, you cover Kentucky sports and you don't follow the people who wrote this story. That's odd. But you are an Indiana fan. And then I went back and remembered when he was an Indiana fan, he used to write disparaging stuff about us. Okay. Now I think I have more of an understanding where this is coming from. Indiana fan who didn't like KSR writes this article or goes on and says this. That frustrates me a little bit. But the bigger picture is I too would like to know the specifics of the JMI UK deal. But it's up to the Herald Leader. That's your job to find it. And the fact that information isn't out there. I blame UK for not disclosing it. It. But I also, Ryan, blame the Herald Leader for not getting it out. That's what you're supposed to do.

[Jerry Tipton]

I was hearing that for the first time. The frustrating part of me was he was, you know, saying misinformation. But then he didn't.

[Ryan Lemond]

He didn't have any information.

[Jerry Tipton]

Have any information to back it up.

[Ryan Lemond]

He was saying the only information we have is what Jack and Jacob did. So, you know, if they're wrong, which I don't think they are. Well, let me put it like this. I know this is what one side of the, of what, who the agents is, what the agents and players are saying. If UK wants to refute that, let him refute it. But we still, we are 48 hours after that articles come out. And has UK said anything? No crickets.

[Drew Franklin]

Jack and Jacob heard anything?

[Ryan Lemond]

No, I haven't heard anything. So that says to me, they probably don't have anything to say because if they did, they would have already said.

[Drew Franklin]

And people questioning the intent and the timing of Jack and Jacob. This started months ago of, okay, let's see what's going wrong. And then it turned into what it is now. But they didn't set out with, with, let me just have this negative article. They generally were at these events wondering why Kentucky doesn't have a recruit. And in all these conversations, it led them to that finished product that came out. They didn't just come up with a big plan, oh, they're 0 and 4. Let's come out with some big story. This has been brewing since the summer.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. So, you know, it is. It is. The critic can stand on the sideline. And what bothered me is this is a journalist doing it used to be that sites like ksr, we would say to the Herald, oh, you can't believe anonymous sources block. It's funny to watch how it's flipped. Like now we're doing the journalism and you're being the one going sources and anonymous. Like, do something. Do something besides tell me there's a new restaurant opening up in Butt, Montana, which is the what's on their front page.

[Jerry Tipton]

There used to be a time where Jerry Tippett, but Jerry Tipton and John Clay would have been all over this story weeks ago.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know, I'm like, they do do that. They'll be like, local institution closes. And you open it up and it's like in Boise, an Arby's in Sioux Falls. Yeah, come on. All right, we'll take a break, come back UK Volleyball to the Elite Eight. We'll talk about it next on ksr.

[Matt Jones]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[Ryan Lemond]

All.

[Matt Jones]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and. And the crowd lit chance, echo drum beat, everybody. Showing that school pride game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colored everywhere. And an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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I know he has a reputation, but.

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[Ryan Lemond]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Six, we take you inside the game, from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies to evaluating team.

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[Ryan Lemond]

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