2025-12-16- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – Hour 1

Date: December 16, 2025
Host: Matt Jones
Co-hosts/Guests: Myron Metcalf (ESPN), Shannon

---

Overview

This episode of Kentucky Sports Radio kicks off with Matt Jones broadcasting from Lexington and welcoming ESPN’s Myron Metcalf (also his co-host on Sunday mornings) as a special guest. The hour blends KSR’s trademark humor with a deep dive into Kentucky basketball’s current struggles, the dynamics of team chemistry, the challenges of play-by-play broadcasting, and the unique culture of Kentucky fandom. The episode stands out for its playful banter—especially around the broadcast pairing of Matt and Myron for an upcoming bowl game and Myron's notorious, peanut butter-themed catchphrases—balanced by candid basketball analysis.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Broadcasting Banter & Prepping for the Bowl Game

• KSR Crew Updates: Ryan and Drew are both out—Drew due to back trouble, so Myron steps in. Adam Luckett slated for Hour 2.
• Play-by-Play Firsts: Jones and Metcalf discuss prepping for their first national football game broadcast together—neither has done this exact pairing before.
  • Matt reveals he's never done play-by-play. Myron admits his color commentary is mostly in basketball, not football.
  • Myron shares his workshopping of catchphrases, most involving “peanut butter and jelly,” to the crew's amusement.
• Practice Makes Perfect: Matt’s been practicing play-by-play at home muted during Monday Night Football, finding it awkward at first (22:06).
• Anecdote from the Pros: Myron tells a story about seeing Gus Johnson loudly practicing in a parking lot before a game to get into the groove (22:51).

Memorable Quotes:

• "I've watched football. I've seen plays happen. One after another." — Matt Jones (06:05)
• "That ball stuck to his hands like peanut butter to jelly..." — Myron Metcalf, testing catchphrases (09:02)
• "A lot of my catchphrases involve peanut butter and jelly. Should I change that up?" — Myron Metcalf (09:44)
• "This isn't going to go well. I mean, that's just kind of... This is not going to go well." — Matt Jones on their upcoming broadcast (10:08)
• "Matt wants to take phone calls during a play by play call of a game. That's... You can't take a phone call, mention that game." — Shannon (48:05)

---

2. Kentucky Basketball: Chemistry, Assembly, and Identity Crisis

• Kentucky is College Basketball's "Cowboys": Myron draws a parallel to the Dallas Cowboys, noting that Kentucky hoops drives disproportionate national media attention (11:17).

• Team Critique: Disconnection & Undefined Roles:

  • Myron: "They just seem disconnected... It feels like there are seven guys that think they're the number one or two option, and that just never works. No team has ever had that situation and won big." (11:53–12:43)
  • Discussion about basic, fundamental lapses—rebounding, defense—being more critical than mere shooting woes (12:52).
  • Emphasis on "vibes": Teams that like each other tend to play better. Myron notes he's not seeing Kentucky “vibe” (13:31–14:36).

• Questions of Assembly:

  • Matt asks if the team is “poorly assembled.”
  • Myron: The portal/transfer era makes it hard for any team to get all the right pieces, even with resources (13:35).
  • The real issue is intangible: teams that “don’t vibe” behind the scenes tend to underperform.

• Mark Pope Under Pressure:

  • Pope claims the team will still be a great shooting team and addresses his lack of sideline energy as medically ordered voice rest.
  • Shannon is skeptical: “We can’t have a coach on vocal rest. He’s not Mariah Carey.” (16:15)
  • Myron suggests Pope’s intellectual tone sometimes rubs fans the wrong way: “Without even trying, you can sound like you’re trying to be smarter than everybody else.” (16:23)

---

3. Roster Construction & Recruiting in the Portal Era

• Pope’s Recruiting Woes:
  • No commitments for the upcoming year; concern among fans about whether the next wave of top players can be secured (28:49).
• Freshmen vs. Transfers:
  • Myron and Matt discuss the shift: only genuinely top-tier freshmen (top six or so) can carry a modern power program. Most successful teams blend kept veterans with premium newcomers (38:49–39:28).
  • “Depth is the most overrated thing in our sport. Once you get to mid-January, you got six or seven guys who are really playing for every team in America.” —Myron Metcalf (50:27)

---

4. Baked Bean Bowl & Comic Relief

• Louisville’s Boca Raton Bowl:
  • The oddity that fans can enter with a can of Bush’s baked beans (26:12).
  • “I do like the idea that if you bring a can of beans to the game, you get in for free... They were like, thought they were going to the playoff. They’re literally playing Toledo for beans.” —Matt Jones (27:00, 30:14)
  • Shifts to a playful debate about commodity prices, bowl game relevance, and crowd quality.

---

5. Listener Interaction & Call-in Comedy

• “Jish” and “Cadence” Calls: Rapid-fire name confusion, birthday shout-outs, playful grilling of Myron's Louisville (“Lou-uh-vull”) pronunciation, and discussions about team depth and elite players (47:44–49:53).
• Call-ins highlight: Multiple listeners bring up nuanced statistical points (e.g., rebounding context), while some ramble long, to the amusement of the hosts.
• Shannon to caller Will: "Maybe take a day off, Will." (38:04)

---

6. Behind-the-Scenes at KSR

• Chemistry with Myron:
  • Matt hints at strong but sometimes combative behind-the-scenes energy: “We could sometimes be yelling at each other, and then they go '30 seconds' and we turn it off, and we'd be fine.” (24:48)
  • The running joke about Myron’s peanut butter obsession is punctuated by a listener text: "Peanut butter doesn't stick to jelly. It actually sticks to bread." (25:40)

---

7. Miscellany & End-of-Hour Banter

• Catchphrases Revisited: Myron continues workshopping peanut butter and jelly lines, to increasing skepticism and laughter from the crew (46:19).
• Gift-Giving and Wrapping Disasters: Matt, Shannon, and Myron laugh about not knowing how to wrap gifts, defaulting to bags (“bags are informal”) (41:57).
• Idioms Gone Awry: A running gag about "different ways to cook a pie" instead of "skin a cat" (40:12).

---

Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Kentucky Basketball’s Identity Problem
  “I don't think, in my time covering basketball, that I've ever covered a team where you didn't know definitively who your number one, number two, number three options were… It feels like there are seven guys that think they're the number one or two option, and that just never works." — Myron Metcalf (11:53–12:43)

• On Mark Pope’s Coaching Style
  “We can't have a coach on vocal rest. He's not Mariah Carey.” — Shannon (16:15)

• On Roster Building in the Portal Era
  “There’s five guys you want every year and beyond that… once you get outside the top five, you have a better chance of getting somebody in a portal who's as good or better than that player coming in.” — Myron Metcalf (39:28)

---

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Meet the Fill-In Crew & Intro to the Hour: [03:34]
• Myron’s Catchphrases & Broadcasting Banter: [05:03] – [10:13]; [46:19] – [47:44]
• Kentucky Basketball’s National Status & Team Chemistry Critique: [10:39] – [14:36]
• Mark Pope’s Challenges (Shooting, ‘Vocal Rest’): [14:36] – [17:13]
• Louisville’s Baked Bean Bowl and Banter: [26:12] – [30:09]
• Broadcasting Practice, Gus Johnson Story: [22:06] – [23:36]
• Listener Calls & Listener Questions: [27:46] – [28:49]; [47:44] – [50:48]
• Roster Construction & Portal/Freshman Debate: [28:49] – [39:40]

---

Conclusion

This KSR hour is a quintessential example of the show’s charm: sports talk laced with inside jokes, self-deprecating humor, and genuinely insightful basketball analysis. Matt, Myron, and Shannon let listeners in on both the pressures and the fun of live sports radio and broadcasting. From concerns about Kentucky basketball’s disjointedness, Pope’s voice woes, and recruiting vacuums, to lighthearted riffs on baked beans and peanut butter, the episode offers fans both catharsis and entertainment as the Cats’ season unfolds.

Transcript

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[Matt Jones]

All.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

[Rob Gronkowski]

This is Rob Gronkowski from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules for for the second season in a row, I partnered with T Mobile's Friday night 5G lights, powering up hometown football across America. This year, T mobile invested over $4 million in prizes to help schools take their Friday nights to the next level. Now it's time to crown our $1 million grand prize winner. A huge congrats to Derrick's High school in Derrick's, Arkansas for Home of the Outlaws and your 2020 5T mobile Friday night 5G lights champion. They scored a home field upgrade, Gronk Fitness weight room, a 2026 tailgate party and an all expense paid trip to the SEC championship game. To every school that competed, posted and rallied your communities. Thank you and a big thanks to T Mobile for making it all possible and helping communities shine under the Friday night lights. This season may be over, but the story isn't. Stay tuned for season three in 2026.

[Odoo Advertiser]

Running a business is hard enough. Don't make it harder. With a dozen apps that don't talk to each other. One for sales, another for inventory, a separate one for accounting. That's software overload. Odoo is the all in one platform that replaces them all. CRM, accounting, Inventory, E Commerce, hr. Fully integrated, easy to use and built to grow with your business, thousands have already made the switch. Why you Try Odoo for free at o d o o.com that's odoo.com making.

[Cindy Crawford]

The holidays magical for everyone on your list. It's no small feat, but with TJ Maxx, your magic multiplies with quality finds arriving daily through Christmas Eve. You'll save on luxe, cashmere, the latest tech toys and more. So you can check off every name on your list and treat yourself to a holiday look that'll turn heads. Now you know where to go to make all that holiday magic. It's TJ Maxx. Of course. It's shaping up to be a very magical holiday.

[Matt Jones]

From hit podcasts to late night TV comedy of Broadway in Lexington welcomes Joe List December 4th through the 6th. Then from her podcast disgraceful catch, Grace O', Malley, December 11th through the 13th and December 18th through the 20th from the FX comedy series English Teacher. Don't miss Sean Patton. For tickets to all comedy off Broadway shows, call 85927 in one joke or visit comedy off broadway.com.

[Shannon]

This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome everyone, Kentucky Sports Radio Tuesday, December 16th. I am Matt Jones here in Lexington, Kentucky where you can give us a shout on the Clark's Puppet shop phone line, 859-280-2287. Avig Nado glass text machine is 772-77-45254. In this dish and sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office. You call TJ he'll make em pay. Weird day today. All right, Ryan's out, Drew's out, Shannon is here. So we decided to bring on some people to, to, to sit with us. Myron Metcalf of ESPN is here for the first hour. Adam Luckett will talk some football in the second hour. But Myron is in Minneapolis, the co host of Matt Myron on Sunday mornings with me. Myron, thank you for joining us on.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, no, thank you for having me, man. How was I on the list of people you were thinking about calling in?

[Matt Jones]

Well, no, you were the first because.

[Myron Metcalf]

I felt, I felt like I was like seventh a little bit based on the test. I didn't know you were first.

[Matt Jones]

We just had, we knew Ryan was going to be gone. Drew is having like, Drew and this has happened to me. Have you ever had the back problems where your back just locks up and you can't move? Drew is having that right now, so he can't, he, he can't. Like he barely got in here yesterday and like he can't move. And when as soon as Drew was out and I knew Ryan was out, I was like this. It's Myron time.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. Okay, good. I'm just making sure. I was pretty high on this. Hope everybody is good, though. Back problems are no joke at all, but glad to be here, man.

[Matt Jones]

No, I think he's good now. Myron, of course, and I of course do Sunday mornings. We're gonna call a bowl game together, Shannon, which we may practice a little bit of today.

[Shannon]

No, I know you think you've Never done play by play. Myron, have you ever done color commentary for a game, for a football?

[Myron Metcalf]

Color what?

[Shannon]

Color commentary.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I've done not football. I've done basketball. I've done commentary. I've done play by play.

[Matt Jones]

But that's very. That's a different sport.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's true. Much different.

[Shannon]

Much experience, though.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's much different.

[Shannon]

More on his resume.

[Myron Metcalf]

I've done. I've done games, and I've done a ton of sideline.

[Matt Jones]

Are you nervous about the fact that I've never done play by play and you've never done color for a football game and we're doing it in a national broadcast? Does that make you at all nervous?

[Myron Metcalf]

Wait, I thought you told me you had done play by play. You haven't. You haven't? I thought you said when we first talked that maybe you've done it before.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I don't think I said that, but the. But did you lie to Myron?

[Myron Metcalf]

I wasn't nervous. No, I didn't. Now I'm really nervous. I mean, but.

[Matt Jones]

But Myron, I've watched football.

[Myron Metcalf]

Shannon.

[Matt Jones]

I've seen plays happen. Yeah, one after another.

[Shannon]

Are you sure you want to put your good name on the line with Matt doing plays?

[Myron Metcalf]

Listen, if they put us on, they. They know what they're getting. I just. I've been working on catchphrases. Catchphrases. And I just hope they.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, wait a minute. Do you have a catchphrase?

[Myron Metcalf]

I got a couple of them.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, you want to test out his catchphrases here?

[Shannon]

I think I've got one right here. I can play back for him.

[Matt Jones]

Let's play one of his catchphrases. All right.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay. Tell your friends about me. That's. Oh, that's. That's. You say that for later in the game, though. That's like one of my premier.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, you don't bring that out. I don't want to. You don't do the.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's.

[Matt Jones]

That's like a fourth quarter, big Western Kentucky play.

[Myron Metcalf]

Tell your friends about me. Yeah, that's. That's later in the game. You know, that's like a fourth quarter. Somebody makes a big play in a close game, then you. You throw that out there.

[Matt Jones]

I see what you all think of this idea. I had an idea, Shannon, that since I have not done it long enough to have catchphrases, that I would give a tribute to all the great announcers by using their catchphrases during the game. Not consistently, Shannon, but, like, it's like little. It's like little almost tributes throughout the game.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, you gotta be careful about that.

[Matt Jones]

Why do you have to be careful?

[Myron Metcalf]

Gotta use them lightly. Yeah, we just got. You don't want to overdo it. I would use it once a game.

[Matt Jones]

I would only do it once a game. So let's say game starts, Southern Miss has the ball. I'll say about Western Kentucky, Shannon. They opened up man to man.

[Shannon]

Now you're using a basketball.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know. Yeah. I don't know football.

[Matt Jones]

You don't think I should do that?

[Shannon]

No, I don't think.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't think that. I don't think that's a good idea.

[Matt Jones]

I thought that was a good. No, I can't.

[Shannon]

For dandies.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, commentators are really like. They don't like that. Like, commentators are really protective of their catchphrases.

[Matt Jones]

So I do feel like wrestlers are like that.

[Myron Metcalf]

They are.

[Matt Jones]

And they don't like you to use their finishing moves.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, yeah. So you got to be careful about that. We don't run into my.

[Matt Jones]

What's one you've considered?

[Myron Metcalf]

I so like. Let's say there's a big catch. Like, call a big catch.

[Matt Jones]

Well, listen, don't make me call things.

[Myron Metcalf]

This is what we actually. This is what we have to do next week.

[Matt Jones]

Don't make call.

[Myron Metcalf]

This is the actual thing.

[Matt Jones]

Until I'm ready to call them. But we could just say, you know, Phil Rivers deep ball to Shannon Grigsby, 31 yards.

[Myron Metcalf]

That ball stuck to his hands like peanut butter to Jelly bat.

[Matt Jones]

No, I can't wait.

[Shannon]

This is gonna be such a train.

[Myron Metcalf]

Hold on. Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Hold on a second.

[Matt Jones]

Hold on a second.

[Myron Metcalf]

That wasn't. That wasn't. That was bad. Was that bad?

[Shannon]

It wasn't good.

[Matt Jones]

Is that. Well, I mean, I don't know that it's bad. It's just.

[Myron Metcalf]

Hold on, hold on.

[Matt Jones]

It's just. It felt like a little force. It felt like.

[Myron Metcalf]

Do you know what I mean?

[Matt Jones]

It just felt like a regular. Like a joke that would. Had yet. Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

Let me be a little more natural. Give it. Give it to me again. Let me be a little more natural and I'll do it the way I really do it.

[Matt Jones]

Phil Rivers drops back to pass. Grigsby's open catches for 31 yards down the sideline.

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt. Great hands by that young man. Stuck to his hands like peanut butter to Jelly Bear. Okay, I'll throw it away. I'll throw it away.

[Shannon]

It's not better the content. It's the delivery the delivery was better.

[Matt Jones]

The delivery is not good the second time. I agree. The delivery seemed more natural the second time. Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

A lot of my catchphrase involve peanut butter and jelly. Should I change that up? Because that's maybe my problem. Like I couldn't. Like a lot of it's peanut butter and jelly. I think. So I got to maybe come up with a new thing.

[Matt Jones]

I think you can only do one line. Shannon, wouldn't you agree? A peanut butter and jell. He can't have every catchphrase be peanut butter and jell.

[Myron Metcalf]

I've got three, three per half. Peanut butter and jell. I just, I got to come up with some new stuff.

[Matt Jones]

This isn't going to go well. I mean, that's just kind of. This is not going to go well.

[Shannon]

He's already off the rails.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Five minutes in.

[Matt Jones]

You know what? We're going to do a great job. I'm 100% confident we're going to do. We're going to do it.

[Shannon]

It'll be regardless. That's the thing.

[Matt Jones]

It will be entertaining. Even if I just end up making fun of Myron the whole time, it'll be entertaining. I wanted to bring you on here to talk a little bit in addition to having fun and talk a little bit about basketball. And you're. So how long you been covering basketball for ESPN, Byron? What? What? How long has it been?

[Myron Metcalf]

15 years with ESPN? Almost 20 overall.

[Matt Jones]

20 years. Okay. So you, you probably, you've said before, Kentucky fans, when you write something for espn, isn't it the case, and you tell me if I'm wrong, that Kentucky articles do better on ESPN than anything else.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, the traffic is, I mean, I don't know what I can say about the traffic.

[Matt Jones]

It's.

[Myron Metcalf]

The audience at Kentucky is different than I would say any other audience in college basketball. I mean, I think that's pretty obvious.

[Matt Jones]

Is that by substantial margin?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, I think anything Kentucky related is the biggest. I mean, I think it's almost like Cowboys in the NFL. Like people are always like, why do you always talk about the Cowboys on espn? Because the numbers show that people tune in when you talk about the Cowboys, whether people like it or not. So I think Kentucky is that in college.

[Matt Jones]

So when, so when you. So, so the point being you guys all will end up following Kentucky quite a bit. When you've watched Kentucky this year as a neutral third party observer, what has been your, your conclusion about the team?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, I mean, we actually were talking about this the other day because we're trying to figure out a trip to Kentucky, and we're trying to figure out kind of what the story is with Kentucky. They just seem disconnected, you know, And I think that, to me, is probably the most obvious thing in their losses. I think you even saw it in the first half early against Indiana. They just don't seem like they're in sync. Like, to me, I don't think in my time covering basketball that I've ever covered a team where you didn't know definitively who your number one, number two, number three options were. Like, I feel like this is a team that feels like there are seven guys that think they're the number one or two option, and that just never works. Right. No team has ever had that situation in one big. Like, at some point you got to figure out who's the guy. And you also just have to realize your strengths. And I think Barkley did a good job talking about this in the Indiana.

[Matt Jones]

I do, too. I thought he. Surprisingly, for a guy who clearly had never seen them play, I actually thought he did a good job of pointing out the deficiencies.

[Myron Metcalf]

But I think this is why. And again, the analytics era is incredible. I think we get a lot of information out of analytics that have changed the way that we see basketball. I also think we get obsessed with the numbers sometimes that you can't do the basic things. And it wasn't hard to look at that team and go, wait a minute, yes, they're missing shots, but why aren't guys rebounding? Like, why aren't guys getting back on defense? Why aren't guys making the extra pass? Like, the stuff that I felt like has been wrong with Kentucky is very elementary and fundamental. And I think Indiana, the second half, they kind of figure some things out, but it's been disappointing overall. And I think you got to put that on Mark Pope. He said this is what he wanted. He knew the expectations. Now you got to deal with it.

[Matt Jones]

Do you think it was a poorly assembled team?

[Myron Metcalf]

I. This is not Major League Baseball. It's not the NBA. It's not the NFL. So my challenge with poorly assembled is I think it's very difficult in this era to have all the right pieces for any team. Like Kansas last year had all these great transfers. It didn't work. There have been a lot of teams. North Carolina, North Carolina. A lot of teams have put these teams together, and it just hasn't worked because it's more complicated than 15 points per game. I think the numbers have made people nationally go, well, wait a minute. You can't spend that amount of money and not figure it out. But the teams that I know that haven't worked behind the scenes, and I don't care what I know Mark Pope and others are saying, there's nothing wrong. The teams that haven't worked behind the scenes just don't really vibe with each other like I do. These stories, Matt, I've done them for 15 years, where you go hang out with a team and the teams that like each other, you can see it. The teams that vibe together, you can see it. And I just haven't seen that with Kentucky yet. I have a lot of people saying that there's nothing wrong, but I don't see it so far.

[Matt Jones]

Now, Shannon, Mark Pope, on his show yesterday, he said two things I thought were important. One, he said this team is still going to be a really good shooting team. You believe that?

[Shannon]

No, I don't. Because we're not three or four games in. We're 11 games in, and they still have not shown that they can shoot the ball. And then he acts like they do. You know, they shoot the ball well in practice, but that's not translating to end the game. I don't care how they shoot in practice. All I care about is what I'm seeing, and it's not good.

[Matt Jones]

And then the second thing he said is he's been. He's been speaking with a lower tone of voice recently, and it's led some fans to say that I want my coach to have emotion. But, Myron, he said yesterday that he yelled so much for a month that his doctors have told him he's not allowed to scream until after New Year's, that he has to. That he, He. He is going to, like, ruin his voice. And so that's why he's not yelling, is he's not allowed to yell until after New Year's. What's your thought on that?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I didn't understand that. I mean, the. The Brandon Garrison, when he yelled at him to get on the bench, that was the first time I think I've ever seen Mark Pope yell. You know, I don't know that I missed practice.

[Matt Jones]

I've seen him yell in practice. Like, not like in an angle. He just yells like, you know how. I mean, I talk with power in my voice. Yeah, he just yells. I think sometimes when he talks, not in an angry way, just that's how he communicates. Do. Do you think he can go weeks without yelling?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't think he'll go a day without it.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, like, he's been very monotone. I mean, he's been very monotone recently.

[Shannon]

We can't have a coach on vocal rest. He's not Mariah Carey.

[Cindy Crawford]

Right?

[Shannon]

I mean, like, I don't care if he doesn't have a voice at the end of the year. I need my coach doing what it needs.

[Matt Jones]

So you want him yelling no matter what, Even if he. Even if it's gonna hurt his vocal cords?

[Shannon]

That's what it takes.

[Rob Gronkowski]

He's gonna.

[Myron Metcalf]

Sometimes. Sometimes you need a second opinion, right? Like, guys, go and get acl. Go find a doctor who will let you yell. You know, there's a doctor out there who will let you do it. But I think in general. Okay, yeah, there will. I think in general, though, I think with Mark Pope, and I told you this on the show, he's really smart. Like, he's smarter than any coach probably in college basketball in terms of if he didn't have basketball, he'd be okay. I mean, the guy went to medical school, and I think that's a cool thing. Sometimes, however, without even trying, you can sound like you're trying to be smarter than everybody else. And I don't think Mark Pope is doing that. But his delivery, his intellect, in moments like this, I think can be somewhat of a turn off to people sometimes because you're like, hey, man, just talk to us, man. Just talk to.

[Matt Jones]

Who's the dumbest coaching? I mean, come on. Nobody, Shannon.

[Myron Metcalf]

Nobody. I don't think.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, let me just say, if you were this. Okay, let's not say that's not true. I've talked to you private.

[Shannon]

Who's the least intelligent?

[Matt Jones]

Who is the one that would be least likely to go to med school? Okay, you said. You said Mark Pope went to med school. Which coach of a big time program is least likely to go to med school?

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay, this is not about intellect, okay?

[Matt Jones]

We're gonna get an answer. I like this, Shannon. Who's least likely to go to med school?

[Myron Metcalf]

This is not about intellect. Mick Cronin probably ends up fighting a professor, I would assume, you know what I mean? So, like, you won't do it.

[Matt Jones]

He probably can't just say which one is not. Can't get into med school.

[Myron Metcalf]

Cool. So you want me to name a coach that you just said, who's the dumbest coach? And then a week from now, maybe have to call that coach or talk to that coach.

[Matt Jones]

Isn't that what we want?

[Myron Metcalf]

Is that what we all want?

[Matt Jones]

That's what we want? Yes.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I'll let you. I'll let you handle that. You name the coach that you said. I don't know him.

[Matt Jones]

You know him. 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-7745254. Could you go weeks without yelling? I think I could, but I don't know if like a Shannon could. I think all of us could. I don't know if you could if you're a basketball.

[Shannon]

I'm not a yeller. I don't just yell at my daily life.

[Matt Jones]

That would be very, very difficult.

[Myron Metcalf]

We'll take a break.

[Matt Jones]

Barry backs ksr.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[Matt Jones]

All.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance at the drum beat. Everybody showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. Adding ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

[Rob Gronkowski]

This is Rob Gronkowski from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and jewels. For the second season in a row, I partnered with T Mobile's Friday night 5G lights, powering up hometown football across America. This year, T mobile invested over $4 million in prizes to help schools take their Friday nights to the next level. The votes are in. And now it's time to crown our $1 million grand prize winner. Congratulations to Derrick's high school and Derrick's Arkansas, home of the outlaws and your 20 25T mobile. Friday night 5G lights champion. The Outlaws and their community rallied to help them score a game. Changing home field upgrade, a Gronk fitness weight room makeover, an epic 2026 tailgate party and a VIP trip to the SEC championship game. To every school that competed, posted and rallied your communities. Thank you. And to T Mobile for making it all possible. This season may be over, but the story isn't. Stay tuned. But for season three in 2026, congratulations again to Derek's high school Outlaws.

[Cindy Crawford]

Now I'd like to introduce you to Meaningful Beauty, the famed skincare brand created by iconic supermodel Cindy Crawford. It's her secret to absolutely gorgeous skin. Meaningful beauty makes powerful and effective skin care simple. And it's loved by millions of women. It's Formulated for all ages and all skin tones and types and it's designed to work as a complete skin care system leaving your skin feeling soft, smooth and nourished. I recommend starting with Cindy's full regimen which contains all five of her best selling products including the Amazing Youth Activating Melon Serum. This next generation serum has the power of melon leaf stem cell technology. Its melon leaf stem cells encapsulated for freshness and released onto the skin to support a visible reduction in the appearance of wrinkles. With thousands of glowing five star reviews, why not give it a try? Subscribe today and you can get the Amazing Meaningful Beauty system for just $49.95. That includes our introductory five piece system, free gifts, free shipping and a 60 day money back guarantee. All of that available@meaningful beauty.com the Chase Inc. Business Premier Card is made for people who make things happen. Like me. I'm Sam, founder and CEO of Manifest, a product design company that makes everyday products design Smarter. I get 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more plus unlimited 2% cash back on all other purchases which helps us make more smart ideas into a brilliant reality.

[Myron Metcalf]

The Inc. Business Premier Card Chase for Business make more what's yours? Real business owner compensated for their participation cards issued by JPMorgan Chase Bank NA member FDIC subject to credit approval Terms apply. Welcome back.

[Matt Jones]

Tuckee Sports Radio Text Machine 772-7745-2541 Person writes Matt, did you practice during Monday Night Football last night? I did. Shannon. I put it on mute.

[Shannon]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

And just called about a quarter of the game.

[Shannon]

How do you feel about it? Do you have more confidence?

[Matt Jones]

Felt really awkward. Felt really awkward at first. But as it went on started to get, you know, I didn't have like Meyer in there to kind of play off of. So like I'd do it and then there'd be silence.

[Shannon]

You're talking to yourself out loud.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. And talking to yourself out loud is weird. Yeah. Like, like it's, it's weird to just talk to yourself out loud. But, but I, but I got more used to it and I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep, I'm doing one game every night for the next, for the next week. But Myron. So I feel better about it.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, but you know, the best commentators, that's, that's honestly what they do. So I was at a game once where Gus Johnson and I were staying at the same hotel before a basketball game that he was calling. And I get ready to drive to the game. And Gus Johnson is in the parking lot calling this imaginary game. I kid you not. Is he really outside? He's outside of his car. He's yelling. He's jumping. Like he's doing. It was almost like no one else was around him.

[Matt Jones]

Powerful voice.

[Myron Metcalf]

He was doing the Gus Johnson calls. And voice standing in a parking lot in the middle of Indiana doing all of his calls two hours before the game. I've never seen anything like it. But, like, I think that's how locked in you have to be to kind of play that role well.

[Matt Jones]

And as we said, like, they wouldn't have hired me and Myron to be, like, real announcers. Like, they're expecting us to be. To be. To be us. One person writes, Matt. It's nice to have Matt Jones and Black Jones on the same show. That's what you called yourself, right when I was gone.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. When we hang out without you. Yeah, it's a fun show. Like, it's like your parents give you the keys to the house for the weekend because they gotta go away. We gotta just do our thing. So, yeah.

[Shannon]

Black Jones just talking about Al Green and Waffle House.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, man. So many conversations about one person writes.

[Matt Jones]

Matt, you were going to try to get Myron in trouble by talking about the coaches, so I'll ask him one. What's it like actually working with Matt behind the scenes? Is he difficult? All right, there you go. Is that. What do you think? How would you answer that, Myron?

[Myron Metcalf]

Define difficult. What's that? What do they mean?

[Matt Jones]

No, you can answer it. Answer it however you want. It's fine. No, Matt.

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt and I are good. I don't have any issue with Matt. I mean, there was definitely a period where I felt like we would have screaming matches, like, eight minutes before we had to start a show, and we'd figure it out. But nah, we.

[Matt Jones]

We could sometimes Shannon literally be yelling at each other, and then they go 30 seconds and we turn it off, and we'd be fine.

[Shannon]

Sounds like a perfectly normal, healthy relationship to me.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, next week, there could be some of that. Like, there could be a little bit of. Honestly, not.

[Matt Jones]

He's a little stubborn, Shannon, in a way that you aren't.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Like, he's a little stubborn. Like, you guys. If I say we're gonna do this, y' all are like, we're doing it.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Myron sometimes is like, we're not doing that, Matt.

[Shannon]

You're a little stubborn, too, though.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute.

[Myron Metcalf]

Hold on.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, that's true, Matt.

[Myron Metcalf]

So We. So we have a running joke like before Matt will jump on the pre show, we'll start to plan the show. But then we always are like, well, Matt might change all this because, you know, Matt likes to be organized and he likes to call the shots and move things around.

[Matt Jones]

None of that is.

[Shannon]

He's got you.

[Matt Jones]

One person writes, myron needs to know peanut butter doesn't stick to jelly. It actually sticks to bread.

[Myron Metcalf]

Am I messing the whole thing up.

[Matt Jones]

Because he said peanut butt like peanut butter is stuck to jelly and jelly sandwich.

[Shannon]

Do you put your jelly and peanut butter together first and then put them in the butter?

[Myron Metcalf]

I gotta start from to the brand.

[Matt Jones]

That's true.

[Myron Metcalf]

I gotta start from scratch. Oh, no. I gotta. I got a bunch of peanut butter and jelly catchphrases. I gotta go back to the. I gotta go back to the draw.

[Matt Jones]

I like that all of your catchphrases are peanut butter and jelly, peanut butter bread. For Louisville's bowl game against Toledo, the Boca Raton bowl, you can get into the game for free if you bring a can of baked beans to the game.

[Shannon]

Why do they want baked beans?

[Matt Jones]

Because it is the baked bean bowl. It is sponsored by Bush's baked beans. Okay, but I don't understand why Bush's baked beans would need more baked beans.

[Shannon]

Because they want more money, that's why. Their product. And then that gets you into the game.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, concessions are going to be ridiculous. I bet they're going to make a lot of money probably off concession related things. I don't know if you want to let people in Florida in for free. I mean, like this is going to be a whole. That's going to be a different kind of crowd, man.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I think they probably for Louisville security situation, they probably need to get people in the stadium however they can. But I do like the idea that if you bring a can of beans to the game, you get in for free. That's bushes.

[Myron Metcalf]

Baked beans only.

[Matt Jones]

Is that it? Oh, yeah. Be the company that has sponsored it. Yes.

[Myron Metcalf]

See, there's gonna be problem at the door. Somebody's gonna bring some baked beans that are not bushes and it's gon be a conflict.

[Shannon]

So you can get into a bowl game for essentially what, $2.50 or I don't know how much.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know how much is a can of beans? Maybe $2, $3.

[Myron Metcalf]

Are you all that rich that you've never been to a grocery store? Is KSR that. Is KSR that successful that you have.

[Matt Jones]

Never been to a grocery store in.

[Myron Metcalf]

The Last five years.

[Matt Jones]

I haven't. I haven't bought beans in a while. Let's go to Josh. Go ahead, Josh.

[Shannon]

That's Jish.

[Matt Jones]

Jish. Okay. Hello, Jizz.

[Cindy Crawford]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay.

[Caller]

Hey, I want to give a quick happy birthday shout out to Kentucky Unforgettable, Darren Fieldhouse.

[Matt Jones]

Happy birthday to Darren. Is your name Jish?

[Caller]

No, it's a nickname.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, gotcha. All right, cool. Go ahead.

[Caller]

So while I'm on the field house topic, Belmont's coming in, man, and they're robbing the state of Kentucky. I feel like Jake Fieldhouse is having a tremendous season at Madison Central. I think some. I mean, who's Mark Pope getting next year as a freshman?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, it is a good question about who he's getting. I'm not sure that. Appreciate the call that. That the answer is from Madison Central. Although that kid is playing well. But Myron, do you. Are you worried about Mark Pope's recruiting? Still no commitments for next year?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know. I feel like there's a divide right there. That there are the. And I think Kentucky's one of the programs a lot like, I'll say North Carolina, maybe Kansas, where there's this idea of even in the Portal era, you still want to go after top prospects. Right. But. But I think.

[Matt Jones]

But waiting for prospects.

[Myron Metcalf]

Carolina is.

[Matt Jones]

Kansas is the only team that hasn't. Is Kentucky.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. I think this year has been unique with freshmen. Right. Like the freshman classes have not looked like this in past years.

[Matt Jones]

If you tell me real quick, we'll take a break. Be right back. Kentucky sports radio.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay.

[Cindy Crawford]

T.J. smith, personal injury attorney.

[Myron Metcalf]

Call T.J. he'll make them pay.

[Shannon]

Now more. Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

This was for me. I know. Yeah. I appreciate that. A lot of people don't know this. I bet no one else knows this song except me and you.

[Shannon]

What was the name of this.

[Matt Jones]

Space ghost?

[Shannon]

Space ghost.

[Matt Jones]

And this is Brack.

[Shannon]

That's right. Singing about beans.

[Matt Jones]

Singing about beans. That's right. Beans. By the way, Myron, $2.39. So you can. It's only the first 2,000 people that get in to the Boca Raton bowl with. With $2 and 39 cents. Beans. Shoot.

[Myron Metcalf]

Once you get past 1900, it's going to be a fight in that. In that line. You're going to be skipping.

[Matt Jones]

People skipping will end up in a bowl game where they're playing Toledo for beans. Like they were like thought they were going to the playoff.

[Myron Metcalf]

They're literally classic line man.

[Matt Jones]

Louisville went from the playoff to playing Toledo for baked beans.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's true. Is this the old West, Shannon?

[Matt Jones]

What's happening?

[Shannon]

These ball games are ridiculous anyway.

[Matt Jones]

I love them. I have to say. One person writes, does Myron know that his play by play guy just learned yesterday that referees wear white hats? Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

We got some stuff we have to figure out. No, I think I'm curious, Matt, what the meeting's going to be like. Because, you know, before these broadcasts, I've done a bunch of ESPN games. There's like a big meeting.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

Where everyone kind of walks through the game like, I wonder what that's going to be like. You know how the people with us are going to feel?

[Matt Jones]

Well, they're going to have to get over it. One person says, matt, I've been doing play by play for 35 years for my local high school. I cannot imagine doing your first play by play game on national radio. I feel like you could do it, but I would be nervous as can be. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

[Shannon]

It's going to make you feel better about the situation.

[Myron Metcalf]

Nah, nah, man. I, I've. I've done my first play by play on ESPN national tv and it went okay. Like, the good thing about production, I will say this, cause I've done games, is we're gonna get a lot of help. Like, there are a lot of smart people who are gonna be around us who are gonna make it pretty easy.

[Matt Jones]

Well, Billy got bumped, Shannon. I heard Billy got bumped.

[Shannon]

So you don't have your stat guy.

[Matt Jones]

He can't go. So I gotta, I'm. I'm talking to my new stat guy after the show, which I wanted Billy to go, but probably the new guy will know more about what's going on.

[Shannon]

But you don't know the new guy. Like you, you trust your stat guy.

[Matt Jones]

That's true. I'm meeting him. His name is Kirk. And do you know him? Do you know Kirk the stat guy? Myron, how would I know him?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't. That's, that's all you have? Is that all he does?

[Matt Jones]

Give his last name? No, they. It's his job for games. So where.

[Myron Metcalf]

For who? Who does he work for?

[Matt Jones]

Espn. His name's Kurt.

[Myron Metcalf]

Maybe I've, Maybe I've worked with him.

[Matt Jones]

I think we'll be embarrassing for him if he gets down there and he. And he doesn't know him. Tonight, Tennessee plays Louisville. Who do we root for? Shannon.

[Shannon]

Who? Well, I think we got to stay with the conference, you know, the sec. So I think we gotta pull For Tennessee to beat Louisville.

[Matt Jones]

Tennessee's lost three straight games. They're playing at home. This could be their fourth straight loss. I'm kind of with you. I guess I have to pull for Tennessee. Who's going to win, Myron?

[Myron Metcalf]

I probably pick Louisville. I think in this one, I mean, Mikel Brown Jr. Is pretty good. And I think Tennessee. Nate Amen has been off. He's had a lot of up and down performances. Like Tennessee's challenges is basically Jacoby Gillespie, Nate Amen. And if they can't score 40 combined, Tennessee has a hard time winning. They lost to Syracuse and I don't think Syracuse is great.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, and then Syracuse went and lost like Hofstra or something, didn't they? Or almost lost a Hofstra. Yeah, so.

[Myron Metcalf]

So the floor for Tennessee is pretty low.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think Tennessee. That was an awful loss to Syracuse. Joe. Go ahead, Joe.

[Odoo Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Hey, guys, something interesting from the IU game. When you look at the box score, Kentucky actually lost the rebounding margin. Now, I think we got every rebound that mattered. All the 50, 50 balls from an effort.

[Matt Jones]

Well, a couple things about that, though. You're talking total rebounds. I would say two things. One, you may remember they got like five or six rebounds at the end of the game when they were shooting desperation threes. You remember, in that last minute or two. But I think the biggest part of that is the free. Is the free throws. We missed seven free throws that they rebounded and they only missed one that we rebounded. So that's a six rebound difference right there. Really just on free throws which aren't even really contested.

[Caller]

Okay, yeah, that's fair. That's fair. And appreciate that point. And one more thing, as you guys were talking, I think you guys have hit the nail on the head with this Kentucky team. From shooting to, you know, team gelling together whatnot. Jasper Johnson only played three minutes. Now, I know Pope shrunk the lineup down, but to Jasper Johnson's credit, I watched him. He was standing on the sideline, coaching his team, clapping, pointing things out. Like, it was really kind of nice to see with Jalan Lowe getting that spotlight and really carrying the team through that second half.

[Matt Jones]

I actually agree with you about Jasper. You were about to appreciate the call. You were about to say something iron about the rebounds.

[Myron Metcalf]

We gotta teach people about the rebounding war. Like, one of the challenges is we use sometimes like this old school terminology. I think what matters most, people talk about rebounding, like in terms of offensive rebounds. Kentucky actually won that battle 14 days. They grabbed like.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they grabbed. But.

[Myron Metcalf]

But they grabbed 33% of their missed shots, which was a higher percentage than what Indiana did. I think the other thing with the free throw attempts, I think that's how they have to play. Like, this is a Kentucky team that hasn't been great about getting to the line. They got to the free throw line against Indiana, and that put them in a position to win. And I think the other thing.

[Matt Jones]

But Pope yesterday said, we all said after the game in the second half, Kentucky's gonna have to play like that. I heard Terrence Ogle Bees Oglesby on field of 68 say, Kentucky's gotta play like they did in the second half. Charles Barkley said it. Mark Pope yesterday said, myron, we don't want to play like that. We did it because we had to to win that game, but we don't want to play that kind of messy, gritty style. That's not what this team is. I kind of disagree with him. What about you?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, unless he's making a move at the trade deadline, this is what he has. Like. So. So I don't really know what that means. Like. Like, Kentucky, to me, is a team that has to play around the basket, try to score and transition. The turnover thing is a big part that people aren't talking enough about. Four turnovers in that Indiana game matters a lot. But you don't have a bunch of shooters.

[Matt Jones]

We had four, they had 18. That's a huge difference.

[Myron Metcalf]

You got to be a good. A great defensive team, which I think they can be. And you got to win ugly on offense. You don't have a bunch of shooters who can spread the floor and be the Golden State Warriors. Everyone can't do that. And that's okay. And that's what this team is.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Let's go to 859-280-2287. Couple open lines. It's a good chance to get in. Let's go to Will. Go ahead, Will.

[Caller]

Hey, fellas. Thanks again for taking my call. I was not expecting to get on three days in a row after never calling your guys show, so shout out to Billy.

[Matt Jones]

First of three days in a row. I had no idea.

[Caller]

I got something to say.

[Matt Jones]

I got. How did you get in three days in a row if it's Tuesday?

[Caller]

Because. Because I was gonna say, man. Well, I was gonna say I was on Friday. That was my first call ever. And I started ranting about Mike Leash, and you didn't let me finish what.

[Myron Metcalf]

I wanted to say yesterday.

[Matt Jones]

That was a bad call. Yeah.

[Caller]

No, it Wasn't hey. And I also wanted to say shout out Myron. It's good to have a football perspective and an outside perspective. Talking about UK basketball also furthers my Mike Leach point I made on Friday by the way.

[Matt Jones]

Well you know ESPN's head college basketball reporter.

[Caller]

Well shoot, I thought he did some football but anyway also I did want to also say I listened to Richardson the other day. He made the correlation between Dusty May and He wanted a football coach at Michigan similar to their basketball coach. So I felt validated. But anyway I did want to say something. I think Mark Hope is having trouble with recruiting right now because he cannot promise a guy that they're going to be the alpha on this team. He cannot promise a guy 35, 30.

[Matt Jones]

I mean why.

[Caller]

Because he. That's playing style and that's I think what's holding him back. He needs to promise guys they're going.

[Matt Jones]

To be a lot. There's a lot of words that come out of Will's mouth when he talks Shannon, you know what I mean? Like it's, it's, it's a lot.

[Shannon]

Maybe, maybe take a day off Will.

[Myron Metcalf]

Do you all want but to it but one thing he said that was interesting. Do you all want your best player to be a freshman in this era?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I don't know. I mean it depends on who the freshman is. I mean Cameron Boozer is Duke's best player and they're really good. Darius Acuff is probably Arkansas's best player and they're playing well. I think it just. Don't you think Myron? It just depends on who the freshman is. I don't think you can win if you have a secondary freshman as your best player. But I still think, I mean they. Duke was the best team in the country last year. They lost but they're 2. 2. Their two best players were freshmen.

[Myron Metcalf]

But. But I think you nailed it.

[Matt Jones]

Right.

[Myron Metcalf]

Like we have to. The problem with the rankings is that there are suddenly 58 five star recruits which it wasn't that way 20 years ago. Right.

[Matt Jones]

That's true.

[Myron Metcalf]

If you, if you get one of the five or six guys you're talking about I'm with you. If you have seven through 28, that's a different ball game.

[Matt Jones]

But that was Caliper's thing is in the early Cal years his best player was 1 through 6 and then in the later years it was 7 through 13. And that's a big difference Byron, between having John Wall is your best player or Anthony Davis or Carl Towns and having BJ Boston as your best player. It's just a different level of skill.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. Once you get outside the top five, you have a better chance of getting somebody in a portal who's as good or better than that player coming in. And then that. That's the challenge. There's five guys you want every year and beyond that.

[Matt Jones]

But what's interesting is last year in the Portal, a lot of those guys have ended up good but not great. Yaxel has really been the only one of those top seven guys who is leading a great team to success. A lot of these other teams are winning with guys that they kept in house, and I just think that's kind of interesting. It's going to be interesting to see what works in the portal era. I think there's going to be a lot of different ways to. What is the phrase, Shannon? There are many different ways to skin.

[Myron Metcalf]

A cat to cook the pie. Oh, okay. That was something.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think it's cooked.

[Myron Metcalf]

Isn't there another one about cooking? There's one about cooking.

[Matt Jones]

I think it's in a cat.

[Shannon]

There's only one way to cook a pie. I mean, it's in the recipe.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, what kind of pie are we talking about? I don't think there's one way to cook a pie.

[Matt Jones]

What other way would there be to.

[Myron Metcalf]

Do besides you make an assumption about the kind of pie? Well, I don't know. You know, we got air fryers and all types of stuff.

[Matt Jones]

People.

[Myron Metcalf]

I do. There was a time when we didn't have ovens, so I don't know. Put it over a fire. There's different ways to cook a piece of. So I don't think you can make a sense.

[Matt Jones]

I would argue there may only be one way to skin a cat. I don't know how. Who? Skidding catal.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, that's what we're still saying in 2025.

[Matt Jones]

It does feel a little bit problematic, but I. But I can't say why it's. It feels oddly problematic, but I'm not sure why it does.

[Shannon]

Yeah, maybe we should let that one go.

[Matt Jones]

Clayton and Cream was founded on a simple idea. All leather goods should last a lifetime. There's many ways to make a leather good. Everything for bags, belts, wallets and more go to Clayton and croo that crummy.com or visit their flagship store in Louisville at Shelby Street 216 located in New Loo. Quality leather goods built tolast@clayton and croom.com. my mom told me she's getting one of these duffel bags from there for me for Christmas. Oh, yeah. She was like, there are six colors. Which one do you want, Shane? And I was like, whatever. Whichever one. It's a lot. Like, would you like this level of brown or this? I don't know. You know, like, I just.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Do you. Do you have an opinion of which brown you want?

[Shannon]

No, I thought there was just leather brown.

[Matt Jones]

I mean.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. I don't know. Multiple browns. Yeah, there's brown. I don't know. I gotta learn how to wrap gifts. I tried to watch a YouTube video and I don't know how to do it, Dude.

[Shannon]

That's another thing.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know.

[Shannon]

I was doing the same thing.

[Matt Jones]

I just get bags and put the little fluffy paper.

[Shannon]

There you go.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, but they say bags are informal, though. They say bags are like not. They're informal. That's how people. Some people see it.

[Matt Jones]

Bags. Well, versus what could I get? I think people expect it from me. They're lucky they get the bag. We'll take a break and be right back. It's Kentucky sports radio.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[Matt Jones]

All.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat, everybody. Showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, Crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

[Matt Jones]

Mmm.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and in ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and get. Keep that HBCU pride going.

[Rob Gronkowski]

This is Rob Gronkowski from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and jewels. For the second season in a row, I partnered with T Mobile's Friday night 5G lights powering up hometown football across America. This year, T mobile invested over $4 million in prizes to help schools take their Friday nights to the next level. The votes are in. And now it's time to crown our $1 million grand prize winner. Congratulations to Derrick's high school and Derrick's Arkansas, home of the outlaws and your 20 25T mobile. Friday night 5G lights champion. The Outlaws and their community rallied to help them score a game changing home field upgrade, a Gronk fitness weight room makeover, an epic 2026 tailgate party and a VIP trip to the SEC championship game. To every school that competed posted and rallied your communities. Thank you and to T Mobile for making it all possible. This season may be over, but the story isn't. Stay tuned for season three in 2026. Congratulations again to Derek's High School Outlaws.

[Cindy Crawford]

Hi, I'm Cindy Crawford and I'm the founder of meaningful beauty. When Dr. Sabah and I decided to do a skincare line together, he said to me, we. We are going to give women meaningful beauty. And I said, that's exactly right. We want to give women meaningful beauty, which means each and every product is meaningful. It has a reason to exist. It's efficacious. You're going to get results and then you just go out and live your life. Meaningful beauty confidence is beautiful. Learn more@meaningful beauty.com the Chase Ink Business Premier card is made for people who make things happen. Like me. I'm Sam, founder and CEO of Manifest, a product design company that makes everyday products design Smarter. I get 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more, plus unlimited 2% cash back on all other purchases, which helps us make more smart ideas into a brilliant reality.

[Myron Metcalf]

The Inc. Business Premier Card Chase for business make more of what's yours. Real business owner compensated for their participation. Cards issued by JP Morgan Chase bank and a member FDIC subject to credit approval terms apply.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-774-5254. One person writes, I'm gonna have to start listening to you and Myron on Sunday mornings. Myron seems like a really great guy. That's a lot of fun.

[Myron Metcalf]

How about that?

[Matt Jones]

That's nice.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, yeah, no, I appreciate that. No, I get a lot of love and support when I fill in here. So no, you know me.

[Matt Jones]

And another person writes, cool. I need Myron to not do the catchphrases. I love him and I think they're not gonna work. But I do have to say in the similar way that people want to see a car wreck, I need to hear his other peanut butter and jelly catchphrases. I see you gave us one. It was. It stuck to his hands like peanut butter and jelly, which we realized. Shannon, peanut butter doesn't stick to jelly, right? Yeah. So that one doesn't work. All right, so what's your second one like?

[Myron Metcalf]

So make a big defensive play. Let's say they get an interception and it shuts down.

[Matt Jones]

Ryan Lemon with a hit at the line, stops him for a 1 yard loss.

[Myron Metcalf]

And that's the kind of stop that comes Matt when your team is together like peanut butter and jelly.

[Matt Jones]

Hold on.

[Myron Metcalf]

Don't. I'm asking. I'm workshopping this. Like, y' all are just laughing at me. No, but you're just laughing and you're not critiquing. I need, like, help me gives a hit.

[Matt Jones]

You want it to not be stuck together. It's, like, powerful. So you want to be like, that hit was as hard as Bob not stuck. I feel like you're trying to force in stuck together. Like peanut butter and jelly.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's all I got right now. So, I mean, I got a week, but peanut butter and jelly is kind of what I was thinking of. So, yeah, I'm getting away from the.

[Matt Jones]

Peanut butter and jelly.

[Shannon]

Yeah. Maybe like, try something different. You know, there's other foods you could use.

[Myron Metcalf]

Like, I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

There's a lot of foods. How about baked beans?

[Shannon]

There you go.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know how to throw baked beans leaking out.

[Matt Jones]

Like, after you eat.

[Myron Metcalf]

They're gonna cut us. They're gonna cut the game and put on like a. An Adam Schefter podcast. If we do that, you know, we got. We gotta get through the actual game itself. You know, I gotta what? I gotta. I'll get better. No, I'll get better. I'll figure it out.

[Matt Jones]

Listen, I'll figure. I would just say to you, this is my only piece of. Yes, you're going to need to give me advice because again, I've never called again. Just remember, we just have to do our thing. Just me and you talking. Like, we don't have to be like these other people. Because if we try to be like these other people, we're not going to be good because they've been doing it their whole life.

[Shannon]

Matt wants to take phone calls during a play by play call of a game. That's. You can't take a phone call, mention that game.

[Myron Metcalf]

He mentioned that. And I think I get the sense that people at ESPN are a little nervous. Like, they don't say it, but when I talk to them about this game, they go like.

[Matt Jones]

Let me give you an example. It's third and two. We got a timeout on the field. Let's go to the phones. Cadence is on. Cadence.

[Myron Metcalf]

What do you got?

[Matt Jones]

Cadence?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know that in the middle of the game.

[Matt Jones]

Let Cadence talk. Myron, Cadence is on the air.

[Myron Metcalf]

Go.

[Caller]

All right, first of all, Maya, we're gonna have to fix that Louisville pronunciation. You said Louisville. It's Louisville. You are on ksr. Second thing, I would like to Say.

[Myron Metcalf]

Hold on a second. How did you say it? How did you say it? Cadence. How did you say it?

[Caller]

Louisville.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so try that, Myron. Louisville.

[Myron Metcalf]

Louv. No, he said Louvre.

[Matt Jones]

No, he said Louvoo.

[Myron Metcalf]

Sound like an 87. 87 Chevy. Louvre. That's how he said it.

[Matt Jones]

Louisville. Louis.

[Myron Metcalf]

Love it. Love it.

[Matt Jones]

He can't do it.

[Myron Metcalf]

How about. How about that? Love a Cardinal. Is that good, Cadence?

[Caller]

Yeah, yeah, that'll be all right. That'll do. Second. Second thing I would like to say, though, with basketball, I want to know why we. So we have a really deep team, right. Really expensive roster. Our team. Our roster is considered one of the deepest in the nation. Right. But when you look at other teams, like say, Louisville, for example, their team might not be as deep, but they have three elite guys that can score with Mikhail Brown and the other two guards. I think Ryan Conley. I don't know the other one, but he. But why can't we do something like that?

[Matt Jones]

Why have we have a fair question. I appreciate the call, Cadence. Why do you think Kentucky Myron has elite players?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes, they definitely have high level players.

[Matt Jones]

Who are the elite players on the roster in your mind right now?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, even though he's not playing like, I mean, you got Ortega, you start there with the sec.

[Matt Jones]

Do you think he's an elite player?

[Myron Metcalf]

I think he has to be.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

I would argue it has to be low as well. Right?

[Myron Metcalf]

Low has to be. I think Denzel has to be that.

[Matt Jones]

But I mean, do you think Denzel. Aberdeen's an elite player? He's.

[Cindy Crawford]

He.

[Myron Metcalf]

He has to be like. To me, what it comes down to is you don't have a choice if you're going to be good. I think the other thing is depth is the most overrated thing in our sport. Once you get to mid January, you got six or seven guys who are really playing for every team in America. Like, nobody's playing 11 guys, 10 guys. It just doesn't happen. So you got to figure out who your six or seven guys out of this group that you can depend on.

[Matt Jones]

I agree with you. Depth is overrated. Jordan, I got a minute. Go ahead.

[Caller]

Oh, hang on. Hey, Matt. It's good to hear y'.

[Odoo Advertiser]

All.

[Caller]

Myron's good to have you on real quick. I don't care how Kentucky has to play the win. I don't care if we win dirty. I just can't see a few what we did against Gonzaga. And then Myron's gonna have you on because, you know, Matt, with his wrestling love, likes to give a rub, so maybe he can give you one.

[Matt Jones]

Appreciate the call.

[Myron Metcalf]

He heard that.

[Matt Jones]

Myron, you don't like the wrestling phrase, give someone a rub, you don't like it.

[Myron Metcalf]

Give someone a rub going out on their back. I don't know what y' all were talking about. It just. That's not a. That's not a thing I want to be a part of, man. Well, no, not at all.

[Matt Jones]

I appreciate you being a part of this show. For an hour on late notice, the New Orleans bowl is one week from today at 5:00'.

[Cindy Crawford]

Clock.

[Myron Metcalf]

Go.

[Matt Jones]

We're gonna come out for dinner in New Orleans. We're gonna have a fun night and then we're gonna call the greatest football game of all time. Myron, let's do it. I can't wait to hear this. Adam Luckett will join us for hour two. Thank you, Myron, for being with us. We'll take a break. Be right back. Ksr this is Julian Edelman from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jewels. Sunday mornings I've got my game day ritual. Coffee, lucky socks, and now new morning uncrustable sandwiches.

[Rob Gronkowski]

It's all about that 12 gram protein boost with the new uncrustables. Bright eyed berry or up and apple flavors.

[Matt Jones]

Bright eye berries got a feisty receiver.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Energy up an apple. Your classic do it all tight end.

[Matt Jones]

Soft pillowy, packed with protein and easy enough for Gronk to grab from the freezer.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Whether you're on the couch, driving to the tailgate or heading to the locker room, New morning uncrustable sandwiches are the MVP of snacks.

[Matt Jones]

Your new Sunday kickoff ritual starts here with new morning uncrustable sandwiches packed with 12 grams of protein.

[Odoo Advertiser]

Running a business is hard enough. Don't make it harder with a dozen apps that don't talk to each other. One for sales, another for inventory. A separate one for accounting. That's software overload. Odoo is the all in one platform that replaces them all. CRM, accounting, inventory, E commerce, hr. Fully integrated, easy to use and built to grow. With your business, thousands have already made the switch. Why not you try Odoo for free at O-O-O.com that's odoo.com make their holiday.

[Cindy Crawford]

Unforgettable with a gift that says it all from Pandora Jewelry. A gift that tells a story and shows you know theirs. That doesn't just sparkle but speaks. From new festive charms to forever rings and personal engravings. This season give a gift that's perfectly theirs Whether you're shopping for a shiny surprise for your significant other, matching bracelets to celebrate your friendship, or a heartfelt gift for a family member, say more this holiday season with Pandora. Shop [e-mail] or visit your closest Pandora store. Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first, There the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.