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Shannon (3:57)

Welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

Matt Jones (4:03)

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Shannon (4:51)

No, I've lost my voice before. It came back in a couple of days. You're not going to lose it.

Matt Jones (4:54)

But you didn't keep yelling? No. I mean, they're saying if your voice is strained and then you keep yelling, you could lose it forever. Do you think that's true?

Shannon (5:01)

No, I don't think that person even knows what they're talking about. Is that a doctor on the other side of that text line? Like just. I mean, who is that? You don't know?

Matt Jones (5:09)

Yeah. All right, let's talk for just a second about. Let's talk. Well, not a second. Let's Talk about some football. We've got Adam Luckett here of KSR joining us. Adam, how are you?

Adam Luckett (5:21)

Good. I can confirm that whoever said that's full of it because they didn't grow up in the luck it house. And there was always screaming there. And we all have our voices.

Matt Jones (5:28)

I have a lot of siblings.

Adam Luckett (5:29)

I have five brothers and sisters. Yeah, there was all screaming. Grandparents live with us. It was just you had, if you wanted to be heard, you had to scream.

Matt Jones (5:37)

I think I've met three of them. I just will like be walking down the street and people come up to me and be like, I'm Adam. Like it's brother. I'm Adam. Like, it's just like you. You. They're there everywhere. All right, so we're going to go to the phones here in a second. I want to give, get you to give us a quick update about the since Will Stein has been hired, UK stuff. We talked a lot about potential coaches in the 48 hours when we didn't have a coach. Was Will Stein, to you a good hire? Just generally, yeah.

Adam Luckett (6:04)

I think he was in that top tier of available candidates. I think once summer all was off the table.

Matt Jones (6:09)

So he would have been your top.

Adam Luckett (6:11)

He would have been my top choice once he was off the table, which when Kentucky entered the market, he was. And then Florida was done. I think you were looking at him and Brian Hartline and those were the, the clear top two guys and they got one of those.

Matt Jones (6:21)

So explain to people what a Will Stein offense will look like if he does what they do at Oregon.

Adam Luckett (6:28)

Yeah, I think you're going to see kind of a balanced offense that will mix in tempo. Every once in a while they'll go full like tempo. But most, most of the time it's more of like they're not going to be like this crazy tempo offense. They're going to mix and match.

Matt Jones (6:39)

So the idea that it's like high speed all the time, that's really not what he does.

Adam Luckett (6:43)

It is not. But he will. They will one to two series a game. And you'll see this if you watch the playoff game against James Madison on Saturday. They will go as fast as any offense moves in college football for a series and then they'll, they'll get out of it. Trick plays. He's big on trick plays. You're going to see a couple of them probably when they play James Madison, but he wants to run the football first and then they're in the passing game. They are not necessarily super complicated, but they're trying to get vertical, but they're also willing to throw it short. So to me, like in some ways it looks a little bit like Kentucky ran last year when they went to this short passing game and driven off that. But his offense has been a lot.

Matt Jones (7:22)

Better than his office has been a lot better. All right. He has brought in a staff of very young people.

Caller (7:27)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (7:28)

This is probably the youngest staff I've ever seen in college football. Do you like that?

Adam Luckett (7:34)

Yeah. I think for a place like Kentucky, you've got to be. We've talked about this. You got to be able or you got to be willing to swing the bat and take chances and bet on ascending coaches. They've got two guys under 35. The offensive line coach, the outside linebacker coach, both under 35 years old.

Matt Jones (7:50)

They're a guy that's like 26.

Adam Luckett (7:51)

The offensive line coach, Cutter, left, which graduated high school. High school 2017.

Matt Jones (7:56)

Shannon, we have a 26 year old offensive line.

Shannon (7:59)

Crazy.

Matt Jones (8:00)

26.

Adam Luckett (8:01)

Yes.

Shannon (8:02)

Normally I would say that again.

Matt Jones (8:05)

High school in 2017.

Adam Luckett (8:07)

He graduated high school in the year of our Lord 2017.

Caller (8:10)

Wow.

Adam Luckett (8:11)

He will be a multi year SEC offensive line coach when he goes to his 10 year high school reunion.

Matt Jones (8:19)

That is. I can't get over that. So he is eight years. I'm trying to think what I. Where I was eight years out of high school. I was like, I just graduated law school. The idea that you would be an sec, that's. That, that's. That's.

Adam Luckett (8:31)

Some of us just been a couple years out of college at that point.

Matt Jones (8:34)

Yeah. Wow. So what do you. I mean like without. We don't have to go into detail on them. But do these people have good resumes? Do you like what you've seen from them?

Adam Luckett (8:42)

Cutter left, which is the offensive line coach's name.

Matt Jones (8:45)

Okay. He was a graduate to Byron Leftwick.

Adam Luckett (8:49)

He is not now. He's from a coaching family. His dad was a longtime offensive line coach. His brother is the offensive coordinator at Texas Tech.

Matt Jones (8:55)

Okay.

Adam Luckett (8:56)

Like his brother and him could play each other in the playoff because of Oregon wins. Are playing Texas Tech.

Matt Jones (9:00)

Okay.

Adam Luckett (9:01)

So he's from a coaching family. He was at ucla, was a graduate assistant, went to Oregon and kind of a support staff role. He left to be the North Texas offensive line coach. Who coach just got hired Oklahoma State for 2024. Then Oregon wanted to bring him back. He was so coveted for them, they felt like they wanted him back. So he's already a guy that's been.

Matt Jones (9:20)

On the, on the, on the rise. Am I seeing that most of these Guys seem to have a good recruiting background like that. Recruiting is kind of a big part.

Adam Luckett (9:29)

Of the two coordinators they hired. I would say the best thing they do, both of them, is their recruiters.

Matt Jones (9:34)

They've been some. There've been some controversy about these coordinators. There's people who go, look, none of these guys have won anywhere. Do you worry about that?

Adam Luckett (9:46)

More so on defense, less so on offense. Because Jay Bateman is the defensive coordinator. He was an FCS coach, came up through the ranks, then became the army defensive coordinator when their coach, who is there now, first got there and kind of got them going. Then went to North Carolina with Mac Brown. Did not go well. Went to Florida for two years, got some players, was a really good recruiter for Florida, then went to A and M. And then it's kind of lost in translation what happened there? Was he defense coordinator, was he not? It sounds like Elko took over that. So he was defensive coordinator in title only. Did not call twice.

Matt Jones (10:18)

And I see your face a little skeptical about the defensive coordinator.

Adam Luckett (10:23)

I think it's a risk, but he has experience. And so what did he learn something from Elko that he maybe learned from North Carolina? Was the North Carolina situation just weird because they had Mack Brown and it wasn't going well? They were offense first, but it's a. I think it's a risky hire. Yeah. It's not necessarily a guy who's had more recently proven results, but if you just. You hired him straight from army, that's kind of the off. The defensive coordinate you would hire. Usually at Kentucky is kind of a G5 guy. That's. Prove it. And now going up to the next.

Matt Jones (10:48)

Level, will Cutter Bowley be back next year?

Adam Luckett (10:51)

Yes. It's trending that way.

Matt Jones (10:52)

Trending that way?

Adam Luckett (10:53)

Yes.

Matt Jones (10:53)

Okay. Will we bring in a guy to compete with him?

Adam Luckett (10:58)

We will, but Cutter Bolly will be the starter. It's not going to be, I would say, a real competition.

Matt Jones (11:02)

Okay. So that. That's kind of new to me. So you think Cutter Bowley is the starter next year. So when Will Stein kind of did that? I hope he wants to compete. That's more motivating than it is a sign that somebody great's coming in and.

Adam Luckett (11:14)

Also them trying to establish the culture that you're not going to get anything. But yeah, it's the guy for them.

Matt Jones (11:20)

That's a. I think that's a newsy proposition. They got this wide receiver from Louisiana at the end of sign. Do you think this team is. I mean, they're going to have to be active in the portal, just to fill a roster. Do you think they're going to be able to get a good port class?

Adam Luckett (11:34)

I do, yes. SEC school, they've got money, they're going to have cap space. I think they're going to be able to make a splash.

Matt Jones (11:40)

So for football, do you think they have enough money for football? We've talked a lot about the basketball issues in terms of going forward. Do you think the football financial situation is in a good place?

Adam Luckett (11:53)

I do, but we're going to learn a lot in this portal, period. We're going to learn just how much money they have. I think that that is going to be the real barometer for all of this. Just how much money do they have? We're going to find out in the portal because it seems like you hear they say that they're. They're in a good spot, but you have to worry, you know, the rev share Kentucky, just be honest. The basketball team is getting a chunk.

Matt Jones (12:15)

Of that, but nobody knows what it is.

Adam Luckett (12:18)

But we don't know. So I'm just, I'm just talking here. You've got to be like, let's use some street smarts. Yeah, Basketball, Basketball is getting a chunk of the $10. We have a lot. We have less than all the rest of the SEC schools. We're going to have to. JMI is going to have to. In the collective are going to have to make up for it in the gaps. So we'll see. They have a lot of money coming off the books with guys.

Matt Jones (12:41)

A lot of money coming off the books. I mean, they did spend a lot of money on guys who are graduating. Do you expect any player I know Stephen Souls entered the portal. Do you expect any player that matters to leave?

Adam Luckett (12:54)

Not right now, but that can change. Willie Rodriguez, they're working hard to get Willie back.

Matt Jones (13:00)

Okay, what about those young receivers that they had some success with, the Miller guys, and I think they're in a.

Adam Luckett (13:06)

Good spot right now. But what happened? Do they covet. Here's what's going to happen to all this, Matt. You go out and get a receiver, then a receiver on your team might be like, see you. I'm out of here. Okay, taking my spot. So there's going to be a lot of moving parts in here. The thing with Kentucky's roster, this is going to sound bad, but they don't like there's not all, there's not all SEC players coming back and there's not.

Matt Jones (13:26)

A lot of guys that you.

Adam Luckett (13:27)

All right, so that shouldn't Cost you that much money in the short term. But also you've got to go out and get players.

Matt Jones (13:32)

If it was, you can. Oregon's going to play James Madison that first game. They're going to win. Then they're going to play Texas Tech around New Year's Eve, New Year's Day. Do you want him to win that game?

Adam Luckett (13:44)

I do not. I want him.

Matt Jones (13:45)

So you want him to lose. If you'd like him to be here because the portal opens right after those games.

Adam Luckett (13:49)

It's better for, I think, the program if he's foot the boots on the ground in Lexington when the portals open and you're having players on campus because.

Matt Jones (13:56)

That'S interesting because you're talking about doing a watch party for that game and I don't know if people will be cheering for him to win or lose. Would you cheering for him to win or lose, Shannon, in that game?

Shannon (14:04)

You know, part of me says I really don't care if he wins or not. But then wouldn't it be cool to have a national championship coach as your head coach?

Matt Jones (14:11)

What about that, though? I mean, what about the Oregon plank? Because Oregon's bracket kind of opens up, right?

Adam Luckett (14:16)

Sure.

Matt Jones (14:17)

I think. I mean they would need to be Texas Tech and Indiana, a doable proposition for them. Do you think Oregon playing in the national championship with every time they show Will Stein, they say he's going to be the coach at Kentucky next year. Do you think that pays dividends for the program or doesn't matter?

Adam Luckett (14:32)

I don't think it really matters that much.

Matt Jones (14:35)

Okay, well, I want.

Shannon (14:35)

What about future recruiting though, when you consider I just want a national title game.

Matt Jones (14:40)

Right.

Adam Luckett (14:41)

Like, yeah, again, maybe you get it for a year and then after that people move on.

Matt Jones (14:46)

Well, that's true. I remember Vince Merrow said that to me when he got here with Stoops. He said we'll get all the benefit of Florida State for one year and then it won't matter.

Adam Luckett (14:54)

It matters until we. And then we get to the contract. How much money too.

Matt Jones (14:58)

Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Adam Luckett (15:00)

It's just a different world. And I think we look at for us, man, I think we look at it, oh wow, national champion. But I think 16 year old that I think that matters for a certain time period and then something else matters once you move move from that and just it's such an important period for Kentucky when they're hosting these portal players, when they're in a market where they have to get more than at least a handful of starters. Maybe More. I think it's important to have the head coach.

Matt Jones (15:24)

So you want them to lose. Adam Luckett. There you go. Adam Luckett wants Will Stein the lose. That's the headline. Adam Luckett say next guy wanting.

Adam Luckett (15:32)

It's Trinity gotta lose. It's not the first time.

Matt Jones (15:35)

Needs to lose. Mike. Go ahead, Mike.

Caller (15:39)

Hey, guys, it's Mike from Knoxville. I am calling two days in a row, but so I got you.

Matt Jones (15:45)

You're letting all these repeat calls.

Shannon (15:47)

I don't know, Mike. And what was the other guy's name?

Matt Jones (15:51)

Go for it, Mike.

Shannon (15:52)

Basic names.

Caller (15:53)

Come on, guys. Come on. You gotta show some love. But anyway, so I'm getting. So. Yeah, I got some stuff yesterday talking about DJ Lagway from Florida hit the Portal and some of his tweets that he's sending out kind of tie in to Will Stein and some of the coaches at the University of Kentucky. And I guess my. My question is, what do you guys think? Would Kentucky even be a player and getting a, you know, recruit as Lagway with his status and.

Matt Jones (16:24)

All right, Mike, question. Could we get Lagway?

Adam Luckett (16:27)

No, that's not happening. They are locked in on Cutter Boli. And I get.

Matt Jones (16:31)

So. I mean, that's the most definitive. I've heard it. Do you. This is Cutter Bully's team next year.

Adam Luckett (16:35)

Yes.

Matt Jones (16:36)

Okay.

Adam Luckett (16:37)

Unless something goes wrong.

Matt Jones (16:38)

I had not news on this show. I kind of. I mean, I didn't know that they weren't, but I just. I didn't realize it was that definitive. Ben, Go ahead, Ben.

Caller (16:49)

Hey, man, I just had a. Sorry, hang on. I just had a quick question for you and Shannon. Quick. She got a second.

Matt Jones (16:55)

Go for it.

Caller (16:57)

Yeah. Hey, so with your law degree, you could probably answer this, but I want to see if Shannon can get it right. You can tell him if he's right. Friend of mine just finished law school at UK and he was telling me some of the questions that were on his final exam. The last question of his final law school exam was this. Shannon. If a man from Mount Washington divorces his wife, is she still his sister?

Matt Jones (17:21)

Oh, that's brutal. That's brutal, Shannon. That is. I appreciate the call that is mocking Bullock county as being some backwards place. And I don't think that's very nice.

Shannon (17:32)

Never do that to my face, though. That's the thing you call in like you're a tough guy. You would never say that to my face.

Matt Jones (17:37)

You don't think he would?

Shannon (17:38)

No.

Matt Jones (17:39)

What if he saw you in your little skivvies from ovw? You don't think he. You think he'd be ring big boy.

Shannon (17:45)

Come on. These are guys are always tough when they're texting and tweeting.

Matt Jones (17:49)

It's interesting that Bullet county gets so many jokes because it's basically just a suburb of Louisville.

Shannon (17:55)

Let me tell you, Bullock county is way nicer than Jefferson County.

Adam Luckett (17:58)

It's Fern Creek. Extended.

Matt Jones (18:00)

Yeah, it's Fern Creek.

Shannon (18:01)

Close.

Matt Jones (18:02)

Oh, you think it's nicer than Jefferson County?

Shannon (18:04)

I know it's nicer than Jefferson County. I've lived in Jefferson County. Parts of Jefferson county are an absolute dump.

Matt Jones (18:10)

But parts of Bullock County.

Shannon (18:11)

Yeah, it's called Shepherdsville.

Adam Luckett (18:13)

That's why. That's with class, Shannon. We live in Mount Washington.

Shannon (18:16)

That's right. Oh, you live in Mount Washington?

Adam Luckett (18:18)

Yes. Oh, a couple years now. I didn't know down there two years ago.

Matt Jones (18:20)

Look at you. So you're both Bullet counties.

Shannon (18:23)

Come over and have a beer.

Matt Jones (18:24)

Why did I not bring the Mountain Dew in here knowing that you two both were gonna be bullet counties? Z859-280-2287 we'll take a break. Barry backs KSR.

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Matt Jones (22:04)

Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287. The text machine is 772-774-5254. One person writes Matt, did you ever think you would hear the term cap space with college sports? No. But that's the way it is and that's how it's going to be. I don't it was interesting you use that term. I don't exactly think of it as cap space, but I guess to some extent it is. I mean, because you're figuring out you've got unlimited amount of Rev share, who's going to get what?

Adam Luckett (22:31)

Specifically Rev Share?

Matt Jones (22:32)

Yeah I mean, you're going to have to. So, I mean, there's something to it. One person writes, matt, I. When you started talking about Trump's tweet about. About Reiner, I was like, oh, here we go. But I played it for a lot of my MAGA relatives, and everybody generally agreed with you. Is that a good sign? I think it's a good sign. I think, Shannon, almost everybody thought that was inappropriate. Like, on Twitter, some people wrote back. But here's the common denominator of everybody that wrote back. Shannon defending it.

Shannon (23:04)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (23:04)

Anonymous accounts. Right. People who had their name on it wrote, yeah, I voted for him. But, like, he shouldn't say.

Shannon (23:13)

And the people defending are going, yeah, but what about. Yeah, what about.

Matt Jones (23:16)

What about what this random girl with a ring in her nose said 10 years ago? Like.

Shannon (23:22)

Like, the difference is he's the president.

Matt Jones (23:24)

He's the president.

Shannon (23:25)

You're held to a higher standard.

Matt Jones (23:27)

Is held to a higher stand. If you. If you are going to justify bad behavior by pointing to someone else with bad behavior, we will end up in a cycle of the worst behavior on earth because you can always find somebody else who did something bad. The question is, like, I am held to a higher standard than Wildcat Bob. In your face. Right. Adam Luckett is high. Like, Adam Luckett says, Cutter Bowley's coming back and is going to be the starter. For better or worse, Adam, you have to be right. You know what I mean? Cats in their eye can say that and be wrong, and nobody cares. But Adam Luckett's name is on. He's got. You're held to a higher standard, and you know that. Right. So who should be held to a higher standard than the president?

Adam Luckett (24:15)

If I'm wrong, blame Nick Roush.

Shannon (24:17)

There you go.

Matt Jones (24:19)

So you're throwing Nick Roush under the bus.

Adam Luckett (24:22)

I'll hold. I stand on what I said, man.

Matt Jones (24:25)

Okay. I think I heard him blaming Nick Rouse.

Shannon (24:28)

I think he did.

Matt Jones (24:29)

Did you? Did you? I think I heard him blame a.

Shannon (24:31)

Nick got an out if it's wrong.

Matt Jones (24:33)

So the good thing about the one thing is I feel like virtually everyone recognized that was bad behavior. And that's a good start. That's a good start to cleaning up what has been infecting our country for 10 years, which is just nastiness. And he's not the only cause of the nastiness, but he's part of it, and we got to get rid of that because he's going to be gone one day, and everybody that hates him, everybody loves him, like, we got to get. We have a nut. We can't have a world where we. If we keep hating each other like this, the country will fall.

Shannon (25:03)

It's okay to say, you know, you voted for somebody. It's okay to say. It's even okay to say you like the person, but it's a bad thing that they did.

Matt Jones (25:09)

It's not a cult. Like, just say, I like him, but he messed up. You can do that.

Shannon (25:15)

Yeah, sure.

Matt Jones (25:16)

We do it to our parents, our kids, each other. I love you, Johnny. But, but, but you can't do that. Yeah, that's okay. Randall, go ahead. Randall.

Caller (25:28)

Yeah? To go with Myron's question earlier, do we need. Do we really need freshmen on the basketball team? I don't believe we do. You know, I mean, pick up one freshman, that's really good. And then bring in upperclassmen because look at the last three teams that hate hang championship banners. They. They had majority seniors last year. We had seven seniors on the team. And look at the success we had.

Matt Jones (25:53)

It's a great point. And also. But, but here's what I wonder, Randall. Is that a product of COVID meaning the seniors were like a lot older and a lot more experienced? I wonder. And may and we'll see. I don't know the answer to this. In three years, will that be the same or was that the unique circumstances of COVID keeping guys in school, et cetera?

Caller (26:17)

Right. And then the nil.

Matt Jones (26:18)

And the nil obviously, is changing over 21.

Caller (26:22)

Yeah, the age 21 plus. But the, the more successful teams that are winning championships are the teams that are majority senior and junior.

Matt Jones (26:32)

I appreciate the call. It's a really good point. Let me ask you, on the football side, is it. Does it make sense to pay money to freshmen in football when they can leave after a year?

Adam Luckett (26:45)

No, but sometimes to get a player, you have to take calculated risk. Right? Get him in your facility and then see if you can keep on to him and then let him grow in your building.

Matt Jones (26:54)

So it used to be guys would sign 25 players. The scholarships have gone up from 85 to 105. So they could still do that if they want. If you were a coach, would you get a lot of freshmen? How would you do it?

Adam Luckett (27:07)

Well, Bill Belichick just signed, I think, 50 freshmen, 40 to. I think maybe 40. I would not do that. I think that is the wrong thing to do. I think you have to have a balance.

Matt Jones (27:17)

He thinks he has job security to sign 40 freshmen, doesn't he?

Adam Luckett (27:20)

I think they pivoted. Thinking portal wasn't the answer and they're now they're going to get a lot of freshmen. We'll see how that works out. My guess, it doesn't work out very well. But I think you have to have a balance, Matt. You have to supplement. You have to have a balance. You can't go all in one way or the other. How do you get seniors into your team? I'd rather have seniors that have been in my program for some for a few years. What, what good does it do you to get a one and done Just load up on one and done seniors every year to build like your organization how you want it and to have balance. And the best way I think to have year to year success is to have you know, you're bringing in guys but you have a backbone in your organization of guys going up through the program.

Matt Jones (27:58)

Yeah. And a lot of the guys that were surprisingly successful last year were guys that had come up through the program.

Adam Luckett (28:03)

Well, part of the. It wasn't the season what is a success but when they started playing well and have success it was guys they recruited.

Matt Jones (28:11)

Yeah. Specifically encoders class JC what's up JC.

Caller (28:15)

Real quick with Adam as the Steven Souls ships failed for sure.

Matt Jones (28:21)

Yeah.

Adam Luckett (28:22)

Yes. Yeah. I do not expect Stephen Souls on the team next year.

Caller (28:26)

Okay. Also when you ask Myron if we had elite players, I was really disappointed he said define elite.

Matt Jones (28:37)

I mean that, you know, in some ways Jason is elite. That almost answers the question. You know what I mean? Like if you say define elite that then that means we don't have it because you know.

Adam Luckett (28:47)

Right.

Caller (28:47)

And you can't, you can't say you. He has to be. That's. No, he doesn't have to be. He maybe he cannot be. Maybe we have one elite. We have one elite player he hadn't played yet.

Matt Jones (29:02)

I totally agree. Appreciate the call. I agree. We may have one elite player. I think we have a chance to have two really good college players which is low and away and a really good role player. College in Diabate remains to be seen what Chandler Moreno and Jasper's careers will be. And then we have role players and.

Adam Luckett (29:28)

The wild card with quaintance whenever he gets.

Matt Jones (29:30)

Well, quaint is the guy who can be elite. But like I don't know because we haven't seen him yet. So I don't. But no, he's right. When Myron says define elite by the very definition we don't have it because one thing about Cal is he brought in so many elite players. We know what that looks like. We know what elite looks like? You can't fool it. We've seen it a lot over the years. 859-280-2287. We'll take a break. Be right back here with Shannon Adams, ksr.

Adam Luckett (29:58)

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Shannon (30:02)

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

Matt Jones (30:07)

You do have to play this on our last show.

Shannon (30:11)

Yeah, I know, right?

Matt Jones (30:12)

Yeah. Which will be the 23rd.

Shannon (30:15)

Well, I won't be. I won't be here, so I'm playing it for you now.

Matt Jones (30:19)

Okay.

Shannon (30:19)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (30:20)

Well, so then play it Friday.

Caller (30:21)

Okay.

Matt Jones (30:22)

I just. It's like our moment. Every.

Odoo Announcer (30:24)

Yes.

Shannon (30:26)

Little Drummer, Little Drummer Boy, Bob Seeger's version of it.

Matt Jones (30:29)

Yeah, that's weird. That's how I know it's Christmas. I don't get in the spirit until you play. I just feel like this little premature spirit.

Shannon (30:36)

Yeah, I got.

Matt Jones (30:37)

I gotta get gifts. I haven't done that yet.

Shannon (30:40)

What are you doing? Like, you just gonna, like, go Amazon for everything or.

Matt Jones (30:45)

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm gonna do online. I'm not going to a store.

Shannon (30:48)

You understand, though, if you're gonna do online, like, Christmas is in nine days.

Matt Jones (30:52)

I mean, that's what people say, but, like, you can. But there are.

Shannon (30:55)

If you haven't done it, be a.

Matt Jones (30:57)

Little weird, though, because I'm going to be gone starting Friday, so I've got to, like, figure out where to send them.

Shannon (31:04)

You know, it's going to be.

Matt Jones (31:05)

Have to send them to the New Orleans bowl so that I can take them. I'm going to have to figure out how I. How I make that happen. One thing before we go back to football. The Lexington. A court upheld Lexington's ban on puppy and kitten sales. You know, in the city of Lexington, you cannot sell dogs and cats unless you're a licensed breeder. Which I remember us talking about, Shannon, when this passed.

Shannon (31:34)

Right.

Matt Jones (31:34)

And I was shocked. This was a rule. I didn't know it was a rule. Is that. Do you know what the rule is in Louisville? Can you. Can you do it in Louisville?

Adam Luckett (31:42)

I'm not sure, but I do know, like, that's a. You know.

Matt Jones (31:45)

Is there anywhere else in Kentucky you can't do it?

Shannon (31:48)

I'm not like.

Matt Jones (31:49)

So apparently the court. So the court said that you can do that. So you can't buy them in stores. You can't buy them just like on the street. So you can buy them for a licensed breeder. And that's it. And the reasoning is they're like, we have too many dogs and cats anyway. Adopt them. Stores, however, can have dogs and cats in them for the purpose of encouraging adoption. But they can't.

Adam Luckett (32:18)

Like at a petsmart.

Matt Jones (32:19)

Well, like petsmart though, they were the. They are the ones that sued because they wanted to be able to sell pets. But they have lost. They. They lost. So Lexington's ordinance was upheld. What's the law in Louisville? Did you look it up, Shane?

Shannon (32:35)

It says. I said, can you sell dogs in Louisville? The answer is yes, but significant restrictions. Louisville banned the retail sale of dogs.

Matt Jones (32:43)

That's exactly what Lexington stores.

Shannon (32:45)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (32:45)

So Lexington and Louisville, I don't know about small towns around the state. I'm not sure what the law is there. Is this like a common law? Like, is this the law everywhere?

Shannon (32:56)

I always thought you could just get dogs or cats from anybody, but I guess I was doing it.

Matt Jones (33:02)

I remember as a kid we would go, I think there was a pet store in that. What is it? Across the street from Lexington Green, whatever that shopping center is. And I think we would go in and I hated it because the dogs were just. And I guess that thing is. Doesn't exist anymore. Or maybe, I don't know. Do they still have pet smarts? Because like, I guess they have to sell pet. Yeah, Sidekicks.

Shannon (33:25)

Yeah.

Adam Luckett (33:25)

There's petsmarts and what's the other. There's another big brand store you see around.

Matt Jones (33:29)

But I don't know, Shannon, like in the rest of the country, is it banned? I'm not really sure.

Shannon (33:35)

Not sure. But I mean what I am sure is that people are still selling animals regardless. And they may not be doing it legally, but people are still like, you know, if you have a dog and it has pups or kittens, people are going to be selling those from their house. So is that illegal from person to person?

Matt Jones (33:52)

I don't know. Is that illegal just to sell it at your house? Puppy $5.

Shannon (33:58)

Or maybe if you're just giving them away, it's not.

Matt Jones (34:01)

Well, giving them I think is fine. I think that's it said in the thing. You can still give them away.

Shannon (34:05)

Okay. But you can't sell them.

Matt Jones (34:08)

Well in a retail store. But I don't know if you can sell them just in your life.

Adam Luckett (34:13)

Yeah, I mean, I guess for a for profit business, they want you going through the, the registration process.

Matt Jones (34:18)

They don't want you selling them, period. I read the person who sponsored the bill or the city ordinance and she said we have too many dogs and cats already that are not having a home. We don't need policies that encourage more because we don't have like they get abandoned and all these like, you know.

Adam Luckett (34:39)

You have to put them down and they take up.

Matt Jones (34:41)

Yeah. And they put up. Yeah. So I just didn't know. I remember when this first came out, I didn't realize this was the like the thing. It was. It makes sense to me but I don't know anything about dogs and cats so like I'm not a good judge.

Shannon (34:52)

I remember us talking about this when this first happened and we were like voting what we think should happen but.

Matt Jones (34:59)

Well, I don't remember what my opinion was then.

Shannon (35:01)

What is it now?

Matt Jones (35:02)

But my opinion now is I think it's good to have this rule.

Shannon (35:05)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (35:06)

Because I just do.

Shannon (35:11)

Well, anything that's going to stop them from being like put down or. Well, if you're going to abandon.

Adam Luckett (35:16)

If you're a family looking to purchase a dog, you might get it for cheap somewhere else but it might come with problems that you don't know about. Where if you go through a breeder it can be a safer.

Matt Jones (35:26)

But there's also people to adopt. I think the main point of this is you want to encourage people to adopt the dogs. We cats, we already have. Yeah, I think.

Adam Luckett (35:37)

Right. But then are you encouraging them to go to puppy mills which aren't good.

Matt Jones (35:41)

We don't want them to go to. I think puppy mills are banned in this. You have to be a licensed breeder and they have all these rules. Right. And then like Those are like 2,000 to $5,000 is what the article said. So like not everybody can for a dog.

Adam Luckett (35:56)

Well, you get a.

Matt Jones (35:57)

What's the mark who you say what's a dog?

Adam Luckett (35:59)

You get a full breed like that. No, no, you can. You're going over a thousand for a full breed. If you want a full breed golden retriever, you're not getting it for 500.

Shannon (36:08)

I'd rather have a mutt.

Matt Jones (36:09)

How much is a. Is a full. Whatever you just said you're good.

Adam Luckett (36:13)

Like if you get a full breed doodle or golden retriever. Your thousands, you're into the thousands. Some two to three. Especially some of these doodles that they're cross breed. You know, golden retriever, poodles.

Matt Jones (36:23)

The most expensive. Say like a reasonable. Like like what's a dog that people have that is the most expensive dog? Is it a golden retriever Doberman?

Adam Luckett (36:33)

I don't know what I would assume it's those full breed then specifically the doodles that are all the raging. What's a doodle it's like a they golden retriever and a poodle have a kid and that's a golden doodle.

Matt Jones (36:44)

It feels like that should be a. Yeah. Like what are you doing to create Googles and stuff?

Adam Luckett (36:49)

It's big. That's. This stuff is big money business.

Matt Jones (36:51)

That's. That's kind of gross to me when you start cross like that.

Shannon (36:55)

He's right though. $5,000 some of these dogs go for you say the most expensive. Well, that's most Expensive ever sold 5.7. Imagine you spent $5 million on a.

Matt Jones (37:05)

Dog and then what if you hated.

Shannon (37:07)

It or it gets run over, you let it off the lease and immediately gets run over.

Matt Jones (37:11)

Glenn. Go ahead. Glenn. Glenn.

Caller (37:17)

Just. Just wondering. Yeah, I'm here looking for a little ranking here and in how things would flow. Which is better or worse. Showing up at a football bowl game with a can of baked beans to cover your admission. Are we high school Friday night football. They have a four legged card table beside the sidewalk and a couple parents collecting the cans of baked beans. Or is it showing up at your company holiday potluck with a can of green beans?

Matt Jones (37:50)

Shannon showing up with a can of green beans to the potluck to me is, is, is and I appreciate the call is very poor behavior. I love Shannon.

Shannon (37:57)

Here's the thing. But I didn't have to bring anything. I, I've at least put forward an effort. You know, I brought a can of beans.

Matt Jones (38:05)

Is that an effort?

Adam Luckett (38:06)

Yes.

Matt Jones (38:06)

Let me ask you, did you buy the can of beans or were they just in your. In your cab?

Shannon (38:10)

They were just in there.

Matt Jones (38:11)

That's what I thought.

Adam Luckett (38:13)

They were just there.

Matt Jones (38:14)

Let me be clear. Yeah. I would make sure I get this right. It was Pet Land who sued Pet Smart only uses animals from humane.

Shannon (38:24)

I've got her answer on the most expensive breed. It's a Tibet Tibetan mastiff, generally considered the most expensive breed of dog. And it averages somewhere between it says to all the way up to $10,000 for a dog.

Matt Jones (38:38)

A Tibetan what?

Shannon (38:39)

Mastiff. Mastiff.

Matt Jones (38:41)

What. What is that?

Adam Luckett (38:43)

I think it's like a mountain dog, isn't it Shannon? Yeah.

Matt Jones (38:45)

Okay, so it's like you wouldn't want to take you to Mount Everest. I saw a video, this is off topic shockingly of the top of Mount Everest. And I thought the top of Mount Everest was like deserted in my mind. Like the people who made it there, they get there and there's like this peaceful silence. There was a long line of people waiting in line to get to the top. So they could take their picture and then go down the other side. Like it was like a five hour wait. It was like they were going to Denny's. And I thought so here. I thought Mount Everest was like this peak of human achievement and everybody's standing there like they're talking with their baked beans, trying to get in the Boca Raton.

Shannon (39:33)

Is it that easy to get to the top?

Matt Jones (39:34)

Well, I don't think it's easy. I just think that like, I guess so many people think they're whatevers.

Caller (39:40)

Yeah.

Shannon (39:41)

Mountain climbers.

Matt Jones (39:42)

Yeah. I just saw the video. I mean, it might have been fake, but I saw Dennis in Richmond. Go ahead, Dennis. I.

Caller (39:55)

I don't. I'm a person that thinks that as long as Kentucky is not given equal money to the football program as the rest of the sec, then it doesn't matter who the coach is, they're not going to compete.

Matt Jones (40:12)

Do you agree with that, Adam?

Adam Luckett (40:14)

Not necessarily. Because even if they had, if it was even across the board, Kentucky still offer. They're still competing at a disadvantage because they don't have the resources or tradition as these other schools. Kentucky has to win in the margins and that's, that's still going to be true even if you got a little less money.

Matt Jones (40:31)

But just like Indiana and Vandy, did they win in the margins this year or did they just spend more money? Like I don't even know what's the answer to that question.

Adam Luckett (40:39)

They up there. I. But they still won in the margins. They won with evaluation, implementation and star quarterback.

Matt Jones (40:45)

You still think they can do that?

Adam Luckett (40:47)

Yes, 100%. No. Whatever. Fiber in my being.

Matt Jones (40:50)

Yes, with every fiber in your being.

Adam Luckett (40:52)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (40:53)

All right, There you go. I mean Dennis, it's every fiber in his being.

Caller (40:57)

Let me ask you this. Seem like we're in a cycle right now that we're going to have to go out and find a bunch of offensive linemen again. And it seems like we're getting in that cycle of one and done. Senior lineman, do you agree with that? What are you seeing out there?

Adam Luckett (41:12)

That's the first thing that Will Stein in this new offensive line coach have to fix. It's been a problem that has been kicked down the road and they have to fix it. And they have to fix it through high school recruiting. That's going to take a couple years to fix.

Matt Jones (41:25)

They're going to probably have to do another couple of years of seniors, of portal linemen, but they've got to eventually.

Adam Luckett (41:30)

Rebuild like this, this first 2027 class when they get here, they have, they have to get three to four guys like legit prospects that could come in and potentially be starters for you. Where in the last couple of years they've only gotten one to two offensive linemen a year, Matt. And that's been a. It's been a mistake. Be honest.

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Matt Jones (45:23)

Welcome back. A lot of dog texts coming in but first tomorrow night doing trivia at KS Bar. I'm writing the questions tonight while I practice my play by play. Get your team out. Be the last one of 2025. So love to have you. You call if you want for a reservation, but go to KS Bar. Get your team. Matt Jones trivia. Remember there's a final prize at the end of the year and would love to would love to have you out. UK announces the official hiring of general manager Pat Biondo and Pete Nocta as the assistant to the general manager for UK football. You like, you like those guys, right? You think they're good, good hires?

Adam Luckett (46:06)

Yeah, I think just in general, just moving to like this more kind of modern front office structure I think is a good move by Wilstein.

Matt Jones (46:12)

These dogs cost a lot more than I realized. People are riding me like they it's big business. They paid $5,000 for a doodle.

Shannon (46:20)

It's more than I paid for my first car.

Matt Jones (46:23)

Yeah, $5,000. Paradoodles. English bulldogs. I'd like the English Bulldog to go up against the French bulldog in the Bulldog World Cup. $2,000 for a CAVA poo. What is that? Cava C A V A poo.

Shannon (46:45)

What's a poodle mix?

Matt Jones (46:48)

Purebred golden retrievers go for 2,000 to $4,000 on the low end. Wow.

Shannon (46:54)

It's a spaniel and a poodle mix.

Matt Jones (46:58)

I just, I feel like this nature is not happy with that. I mean people don't are like I've got an elephant and a frog.

Shannon (47:06)

But they're still dogs though. You're missing the point here. There's still dogs.

Matt Jones (47:10)

Okay, so not the same thing.

Shannon (47:12)

Not the same elephant or frog.

Matt Jones (47:14)

Okay, well I don't know anything about but like one of them will be big and one. I. I don't know.

Shannon (47:19)

I love your analysis.

Matt Jones (47:21)

I'm not a dog person. I think people can tell. Pete. Go ahead, Pete.

Caller (47:26)

Hey guys, as long as we're talking about how awesome Bullet county is, I need to throw this name out there. Student assistant Cole Britt. Vince left the tight end room. Cole Britt came in the tight end room and all of a sudden for one year we became tight end use. So I think coach die need to make sure Cole Britt is retained and he cold Brett.

Adam Luckett (47:52)

I do not but he sounds like he's doing a great job over there.

Caller (47:55)

Yeah, he was. He was on only two teams have have won the 6A state title other than St. Next Trinity and mail and one of those is bullies three years ago when he was on that staff. Yeah, on the side. On the sideline. He's the guy that was wearing the green this year. You know the three guys who order different colors.

Matt Jones (48:17)

All right, well I appreciate the call. Shout out to Cole Colebrook. The only guy they're keeping is Anwar Stewart, right?

Adam Luckett (48:22)

Yes. Now they haven't come out and said that so we'll have to see what goes on. But as of right now the amar and there's some support staff guys I think they're going to stay. Some guys in the recruiting department are.

Matt Jones (48:32)

Going to stay for the mic Heartline staying. Right.

Adam Luckett (48:34)

Mike Hartline that we've heard that he's. He's going to be in same role as last year on the staff but mostly it's been the clean sweep out of there. They're going to have a lot of new faces.

Matt Jones (48:42)

Todd. Go ahead, Todd.

Caller (48:45)

Hey guys, little off subject today but just to clarify about Billy Clyde American I did not work American at the time. I worked for the sister store Murray's across town and it 100 is a fact that what you're talking about.

Matt Jones (49:02)

Oh, so you're saying the Billy Clyde American story is correct?

Caller (49:08)

Absolutely.

Matt Jones (49:09)

Oh Shannon, I like it there. No. Well, doesn't surprise me and we can't go into details but it involves like a pool. The swimming pool, right?

Caller (49:19)

Yes. They. They have since.

Matt Jones (49:23)

Clean the pool out.

Shannon (49:24)

Let's hope so.

Adam Luckett (49:27)

It's a caddyshack scene.

Matt Jones (49:29)

Yeah, yeah, we're gonna need it. We're gonna need some. We're gonna need some scrubbing there. All right, well, thank you. Thanks for the information. Steve. Go ahead, Steve.

Caller (49:39)

Hey, guys, I was curious. Have you all ever heard Mark Pope talk about a pump fake and a three point line if you watch. I always thought it was kind of basketball 101. But if you do a pump fake and the defender leaves his feet instead of moving away from you can move into him and you get three free throws and I. Seems like our kids don't do that and I don't know why.

Matt Jones (50:02)

That's a fair point. I've wondered that over the years. I appreciate the call. Reggie Miller was the king of doing that and other guys have too. You know, you go a pump fake when they jump, especially if they don't jump straight up and they jump at you go into them. Lamont Butler would do that. I think he did that a few times last year. Yeah.

Adam Luckett (50:17)

I think Kobe Bray got. I want to say he did the James Harden move where he, you know.

Matt Jones (50:22)

Move to me is dirty. Like, I mean people call it, but I don't think they should. Blake. Go ahead, Blake.

Caller (50:29)

Hey, I just. Just wanted to say that I think taking calls on the radio during the bowl game is a fantastic idea.

Matt Jones (50:35)

Me too.

Caller (50:35)

And then also, also for Adam, I just wanted to ask you said Cutter bowl is going to be the starter next year, which I think is a great idea because I think he's shown he can play well. But is it there reports that Will Stein might bring that freshman or sophomore quarterback from Oregon that he recruited?

Matt Jones (50:50)

Yeah. Do you think he brings him in with him? Appreciate the call.

Adam Luckett (50:53)

I do not as of right now.

Matt Jones (50:54)

All right, there you go.

Shannon (50:56)

This is very definitive in his name on it.

Matt Jones (50:59)

I gotta say to you. That's what I like. You put your name on it. You wasn't cat fan in your ear. You put your name on it.

Adam Luckett (51:06)

They are invested in making sure Cutter Bowley is here next year and they're. They want him to be the starting quarterback.

Matt Jones (51:10)

All right, let's go to DraftKings pick of the day. Go to DraftKings. Bet $5 you can win up 10 hundred or 10 hundred. $200 in bonus bets if you get it correct. We're going to do the IS4s. Salute to Veterans Bowl. Wonder what is for S. A lot of letters. If you the four. It looks like ISIS if you're not careful.

Shannon (51:33)

That's the isis.

Matt Jones (51:34)

You got to make sure to enunciate.

Shannon (51:36)

We'Re taking everybody out of here.

Matt Jones (51:39)

Is 4s. Salute to Veterans Bowl. Troy in Jacksonville State. Who you got lucky.

Adam Luckett (51:45)

I'm rolling with a former Kentucky Wildcat, Jared Parker. Troy on the money line.

Matt Jones (51:49)

Money line. What do you got?

Shannon (51:51)

I'm with them. Let's go with Troy.

Matt Jones (51:52)

Let's go with Troy. What about you? Sitting in my room going, I got. I have to because I don't really know the Troy and Jacksonville State players.

Shannon (52:01)

Get the roster.

Matt Jones (52:02)

Well, I just give names of like, other people.

Adam Luckett (52:04)

Former Kentucky quarterback Gavin Wimsett plays for Jacksonville State.

Matt Jones (52:08)

Does he get to play?

Adam Luckett (52:09)

Yeah, he's like a wildcat quarterback for them.

Matt Jones (52:11)

Huh. All right, so that's where I'll go. Wimps it under center.

Shannon (52:13)

That's a formation, you know, Whips it under center.

Matt Jones (52:18)

Johnson in motion, takes a snap, looks back, peanut butter, sticks to jelly.

Shannon (52:23)

There you go.

Matt Jones (52:24)

All right. Thank you all very much. Adam, great stuff. Thanks, man. We'll see you later. It's ksr.

Adam Luckett (52:31)

This is Julian Edelman from Dudes on dudes with Gronk and jewels. Sunday mornings I've got my game day ritual. Coffee, lucky socks, and now new morning uncrustable sandwiches.

Rob Gronkowski (52:45)

It's all about that 12 gram protein boost with the new uncrustables. Bright eyed berry or up and apple flavors.

Adam Luckett (52:54)

Bright eye berries got a feisty receiver.

Rob Gronkowski (52:58)

Energy up an apple. Your classic do it all tight end.

Adam Luckett (53:03)

Soft, pillowy, packed with protein and easy enough for Gronk to grab from the freezer.

Rob Gronkowski (53:09)

Whether you're on the couch, driving to the tailgate or heading to the locker room, New morning uncrustable sandwiches are the MVP of snacks.

Adam Luckett (53:22)

Your new Sunday kickoff ritual starts here with new morning uncrustable sandwiches packed with 12 grams of protein.

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