2025-12-18- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

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Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – Hour 2 (12/18/2025)

Host: Matt Jones
Co-hosts: Drew Franklin, Ryan Lemond, Shannon Dawson
Setting: KS Bar and Grill
Episode Theme: UK sports updates, college basketball talk, recruiting concerns, NIL/JMI debate, and an interactive, light-hearted look at sports pop culture.

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Episode Overview

In this hour, Matt Jones and the KSR crew dive into a classic blend of Kentucky Wildcats news, national sports oddities, and lively debate about the future of UK recruiting. The substantive backbone of the discussion focuses on basketball—UK’s season trajectory, the tale of the 7'9" Florida player, and escalating anxiety over the role of JMI in NIL deals and high-level recruiting. The episode is punctuated by fun musical trivia, stories about NBA personalities, and community engagement from callers and the on-site crowd.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Upcoming Volleyball Match and a Volleyball Coaching Fun Fact

• [02:58-04:21]
  • Kentucky faces Wisconsin in volleyball, with a late 9:00 PM start. Matt teases the senior citizens at the bar about staying awake for the match.
  • Fun fact: UK’s Craig Skinner and Wisconsin’s Kelly Sheffield once coached together—the undefeated Muncie, Indiana JV volleyball team in 1990.
    • “Two coaches coaching in the Final Four coached a JV volleyball team together in 1990. How about that for a crazy fact?” – Matt Jones [03:46]

2. Doug Gottlieb’s Dual Career and Predictable Outcome

• [04:21-05:29]
  • Doug Gottlieb, who attempted to both coach at Green Bay and host an afternoon radio show, has quit the radio gig as his basketball program struggles.
    • “There was no way he was going to be able both and he has not been able to do both.” – Matt Jones [04:39]
    • The crew pokes fun at the impossibility of recruiting or coaching while hosting a show.

3. The 7’9” Florida Gators Player: Oliver Rue

• [05:29-09:27]
  • Oliver Rue scored a point, becoming the tallest player to score in college basketball.
  • Lively debate about whether a player of his size would dominate at a mid-major (“Eku”) or if physical limitations would prevent him from being more impactful.
    • “How is he not the greatest college basketball player of all time? Just throw the ball up in the air, let him catch it.” – Shannon Dawson [07:05]
    • “I feel like Oliver Rue needs to… go play somewhere where he plays because I am just… I feel like he has to be able to play a little bit.” – Matt Jones [08:43]
  • Comparison to Taco Fall, who succeeded at Central Florida.

4. Chris Paul’s Lonely Halloween Party & NBA Locker Room Culture

• [09:27-13:54]
  • Chris Paul’s tenure with the Clippers reportedly soured after none of his teammates showed up at his Halloween party.
    • “Don’t you feel bad for him? He’s sitting there at home, like, at his Halloween party. He’s dressed as Dracula…when are they coming? Where is everybody?” – Matt Jones [11:42]
    • Discussion expands to likability of athletes, referencing an infamous, sad story about Chevy Chase’s Comedy Central roast: none of his friends showed up, and he left in tears.
      • “He just goes home and cries because he expected, like, Bill Murray and all these people to come, and no one came.” – Matt Jones [13:08]
    • Moral: Don’t be a jerk on the way up, or you’ll be alone on the way down.

5. Call-In: NBA Expansion and Louisville’s Chances

• [14:01-16:13]
  • Caller “Will” inquires about NBA expansion after rumors of a potential game in Rupp Arena sparking speculation.
  • Matt clarifies: Expansion most likely to Las Vegas and Seattle; Louisville unlikely due to lack of another major sponsor (besides UPS, Ford).
    • “I actually think Louisville could support an NBA team. But then again their attendance at the U of L games doesn’t help the cause either because no one’s going to the U of L game.” – Matt Jones [15:13]

6. Evaluating Will Wade’s “Daycare” GPA Comment

• [19:03-20:06]
  • Will Wade made headlines: “We have a 3.0 GPA. That’s wonderful, if we run a daycare, but we’re a competitive basketball program.”
    • Debate on whether this trivializes student athlete academics.
    • “He’s…implying that if you have a GPA of three or higher, you can’t be competitive and you can’t be tough?” – Drew Franklin [19:56]
    • Matt draws a parallel to a famous Mark Stoops quote (not repeated out of “respectful” hesitation).

7. UK Basketball Tournament Seeding Prognosis (with Jaden Quaintance and Jalen Lowe Healthy)

• [20:39-22:34]
  • Discussion of Kentucky’s potential tournament seed if new and returning players stay healthy:
    • Consensus: Could move from a projected 9-seed to as high as a 3 or 4.
    • “Those four losses are going to factor in… if they play the way we think…they could get in that 3, 4 range for sure.” – Drew Franklin [21:58]

8. Recruiting Worries, NIL, and JMI Issues

• [23:02-26:46 and 35:09-38:42]
  • Multiple questions from callers and the hosts about UK recruiting challenges, particularly regarding NIL deals “brokered” through JMI (UK’s marketing partner).
  • Concern: Kentucky may lose out on top talent (like Stokes or Collins) due to inability to guarantee both NIL deals and JMI sponsorships simultaneously.
    • “If they don’t get the high school guys, you don’t clean up in the portal, then… changes will have to be made because fans will demand it.” – Matt Jones [24:18]
    • “Pope has not gotten in his entire career a top 40 player not from the state.” – Matt Jones [25:23]
    • The situation is “all perception,” too—missing on top recruits may damage future classes’ confidence in UK’s recruiting operations.

9. Pop Culture Break: Top Streamed Legacy Artists on Spotify

• [27:17-34:23]
  • Matt tests the panel (and audience) on which pre-2005 legacy artists appear in Spotify’s all-time top 80.
  • Correct guesses: Beyonce, Jay Z, Eminem, Coldplay, Lil Wayne, Maroon 5, Shakira, Justin Timberlake, Tupac, The Beatles, Queen.
    • “Did you know that people still listen to Queen like that?” – Matt Jones [30:57]
    • The popularity of older acts often surges due to movies (“Bohemian Rhapsody”) or TikTok trends.

10. Community/Bar Event Programming: World Cup Food Idea

• [32:30-33:51]
  • Matt pitches using the World Cup as an opportunity for KS Bar to host local chefs and serve international cuisine matching daily games.
    • Met with enthusiastic panel support.

11. Mark Pope’s Voice and Coaching Concerns

• [41:29-42:43]
  • Mark Pope is coaching while dealing with significant voice strain/no ability to yell.
    • Reminiscing on how some coaches (like Calipari or Pitino) could never coach without their voice.

12. More Portal Talk: Bryce Hopkins & Aaron Bradshaw

• [42:43-46:20]
  • Updates on former UK players now elsewhere (Bryce Hopkins at St. John’s, Aaron Bradshaw at Memphis).
  • Bradshaw reportedly fined NIL money by Penny Hardaway for tardiness, raising eyebrows on legality/precedent.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Matt Jones teasing seniors about staying up for volleyball:
  “But you know, sometimes even senior citizens got to let their hair down and party.” [03:05]

• Drew Franklin, on Doug Gottlieb’s juggling act:
  “That’s just ridiculous…What are you doing? Well, I got a radio show to do. That's just ridiculous.” [05:17]

• Matt Jones, on Chris Paul’s party flop:
  “He’s sitting there at home, like, at his Halloween party. He's dressed as Dracula...when are they coming? Where is everybody?” [11:42]

• Matt Jones, on the emotional Chevy Chase roast story:
  “And apparently, when it was over, the magazine article says he just goes home and cries because he expected, like, Bill Murray and all these people to come, and no one came.” [13:08]

• Shannon Dawson, on Oliver Rue’s unique capabilities:
  “How is he not the greatest college basketball player of all time? Just throw the ball up in the air, let him catch it.” [07:05]

• Matt Jones on the streaming legacy of Queen:
  “Did you know that people still listen to Queen like that?” [30:57]

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Noteworthy Call-In Segments

• Will ([14:01]): Broaches NBA expansion—clarified by Matt that Louisville is unlikely to land a franchise.
• Mark ([22:59]): Middlesborough alum, voices concern about UK recruiting, asks about JMI/NIL impact. Matt acknowledges the issue will only be “fixed” if UK starts landing top recruits or portal targets.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Old Volleyball Fact – Muncie JV Undefeated: [03:37-04:21]
• Doug Gottlieb Dual-Job Fumble: [04:21-05:29]
• 7'9'' Florida Player Debate: [05:29-09:27]
• Chris Paul’s Party/Locker Room Culture: [09:27-13:54]
• NBA Expansion/Louisville Call: [14:01-16:13]
• Will Wade GPA/Daycare Quote: [19:03-20:06]
• NCAA Tourney Seed Discussion: [20:39-22:34]
• UK Recruiting, Portal, NIL/JMI Conversation: [23:02-26:46], [35:09-38:42]
• Spotify Legacy Artists Trivia: [27:17-34:23]
• World Cup Food Idea: [32:30-33:51]
• Mark Pope’s Voice/Wildcats Past Players: [41:29-46:20]

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Overall Tone and Style

The show features classic KSR banter and humor—chummy, irreverent, with a serious core on recruiting/NIL but always eager to lighten the mood with music trivia or storytelling. Matt Jones leads as both traffic cop and chief instigator, comfortable poking fun at the bar crowd or his on-air team, while not shying from the issues that keep UK fans up at night (“Can Pope recruit?” “What about JMI?”).

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For Listeners Who Missed It

• You’ll learn about the tangible impact of NIL and the unique challenges JMI brings to UK recruiting.
• You’ll hear thoughtful debate about how real-world likability impacts both pro athletes and comedians.
• If you like musical/pop-culture sidebars, you'll get some trivia for free.
• There’s a lively, community-driven atmosphere with both light and serious UK basketball talk.
• The anxiety and hopefulness of Wildcat fandom is well-represented.
• And you’ll leave with a solid list of which Queen songs you should be embracing on your next playlist.

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Transcript

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[Shannon Dawson]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287 text machine is 772-774-5254 here at KS Bar and Grill. People coming in for lunch ready to ready to go. Remember the the volleyball watch party game starts at 9:00'. Clock. So it's a late one. You folks going to stay up back there? You can be able to stay awake tonight for the game. Sir, why are you shaking your head? It's a. You're a senior citizen. But you know, sometimes even senior citizens got to let their hair down and party. And tonight with uk, Wisconsin would be one of Nick Roush gave me a fact. I want you to read your Nick Roushes fact. Fun fact.

[Drew Franklin]

Fun fact.

[Matt Jones]

Craig Skinner, UK's volleyball coach and Wisconsin's coach Kelly Sheffield once coached the team together. Would you like to know what the team was?

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

The undefeated Muncie, Indiana JV volleyball team in 19 two coaches coaching in the Final Four coached a JV volleyball team together in 1990. How about that for a crazy fact?

[Drew Franklin]

I love that JV volleyball doesn't get near enough exposure on our show. Now we're going to talk about it's.

[Matt Jones]

Got no exposure over the years that.

[Drew Franklin]

Undefeated season back in 1990 in Muncie, Indiana.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes, that school's got to put something up to recognize this match tonight.

[Matt Jones]

You would think so saying that they.

[Ryan Lemond]

Were on the same JV coaching staff and made it that far.

[Matt Jones]

All right, let's do quickly a couple of little small topics. Doug Gottlieb, remember when he took the coaching job at Green Bay, he said I'm gonna keep doing my afternoon radio show and I'm going to coach the team. He's done that for a year. Last year his team stunk. This year his team stinks. And today he announced he was quitting the the afternoon radio show. Shannon, you and I called this one a long time ago. There was no way he was going to be able both and he has not been able to do both. And now he's having to quit the. Quit the race.

[Shannon Dawson]

He had too much going on. But you know What? They were 4 and 28 last year. They're 6 and 7 this year. So there's a little bit of improvement.

[Matt Jones]

He has gotten a little better. And he shows up slightly soused on the field of 68 sometimes on Saturday night. So it works.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, we knew this was coming. I thought maybe he might try to make it through this year because thought he would have done in the off season after last year. But yeah, it's clearly 6 and 7 not going well. He needs time to have his fill the 68 appearances as well.

[Drew Franklin]

We knew this was ridiculous. Trying to do an afternoon radio show and coach your back. When are you going to practice? In the afternoon, probably. What are you doing? Well, I got a radio show to do. That's just ridiculous.

[Ryan Lemond]

What if a recruit calls? He's busy talking about Packers, Bears.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. He could call the radio show and say, hey, coach, practice. Yes. All right. Yet last night was historic night. The tallest player to ever score a point in the history of college basketball scored Oliver Rue, who plays for the Florida Gators. He got a breakaway dunk last night. And it's seven foot nine becomes the tallest player to ever score a game in regulation. A point in regulation at Florida. Do you like the 7 foot 9 player?

[Ryan Lemond]

I do. And when they were here last year, I made a point to go just stand as closely as I could. I couldn't get all the way up on him. He's on the court, but I got close enough to know just. It is insane how tall that man is. He doesn't even need to jump whatsoever to dunk. It's. I guess they can't play him much with those legs. He just can't get around. But I'm glad he finally got a bucket.

[Matt Jones]

Are you surprised? He doesn't play ever. Like you would think, a guy seven nine. First of all, Florida won the national championship, so they may not need him. But if I was him, there's got to be a college he can play at. Right there. There has to be somewhere that he could play basketball at 7 foot 9. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

What if you went to a place like Eku?

[Matt Jones]

Well, let me ask you, if he went to Eku, do you think he would start for Eku?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't think he'd start, but he would definitely get more minutes. Like Drew said, it's hard for him to run.

[Matt Jones]

Why wouldn't he start? He's seven foot nine.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh.

[Shannon Dawson]

I mean, I'm watching him run down the Floor. He looks like he's doing pretty good to me.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's what I think too. It's not like he's like. It's not like he's like handicapped in any way. Like he run. He runs up and down, he's slow.

[Shannon Dawson]

How is he not the greatest college basketball player of all time? Just throw the ball up in the air, let him catch it.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that's another thing. Why don't you like Shannon? Why don't you just throw it high in the air like he's going to.

[Shannon Dawson]

Be the first to get it?

[Matt Jones]

I understand why it doesn't work in the sec, because guys can jump. But if you went and played at Eastern, you're telling me he couldn't score at Eastern?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, that conference, their big guys are a little smaller than the big guys.

[Matt Jones]

Are like six foot seven.

[Drew Franklin]

So you could just.

[Shannon Dawson]

Is two foot from his head. That's not even counting his arms in the air.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean, his arms in the air. He can, he can commit goaltending without jumping. Yeah. So I don't know, Drew. I feel like, I mean, he's at Florida, so I can understand why he doesn't play at Florida, but I'd like to see what happened if he played at Eastern.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

You just can't convince me that that kid could not be effect. I mean, Zach edie is like 7 4. Now granted, Zach Edie's got good footwork, but he's like, he scores with ease in the NBA. So you telling me the 79 guy can't score against Morehead?

[Ryan Lemond]

I think he could. It would just be how much is he hurting you on the other end? By the time he gets halfway back down the court on those knees, getting up and down, he's not quick at all. I think people would just. He would have to stand on just underneath the goal on both ends. But I think it could work for, for a little while in doses.

[Drew Franklin]

If you were playing against somebody that, you know, made it a half court game, we've got time to kind of get down the court and just get in the lane and just clog up the lane on defense.

[Shannon Dawson]

I mean, I'm watching this play. He dunks, he's back on defense.

[Matt Jones]

I with you, Shannon. I feel like Oliver Rue needs to.

[Shannon Dawson]

I mean, I give him enough credit.

[Matt Jones]

He won a national. First of all, he has a national title ring, Right. So he's already got. Yep, he's already got a great thing. I, I want to see him enter the portal and go play somewhere where he plays because I am just. I feel like he has to be able to play a little bit.

[Drew Franklin]

Where did Taco Fall play?

[Matt Jones]

Taco Fall was good.

[Shannon Dawson]

Wasn't it? Central?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, remember, Taco Fall kind of dominated Duke in the tournament that year. They should have beat him. The Zion team. Do you remember that? Taco Fall was balling against Duke?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he died.

[Ryan Lemond]

Good example.

[Drew Franklin]

It's a great example. Dominated that kind of. That level. But, yes, able to succeed against bigger schools.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. I want to see him. I want to see.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm pulling for him.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so not this story I like a lot. Chris Paul, you know, one of the legendary point guards of all time, he got kind of cut by the Clippers. This was supposed to be his last year, and now, like, his. His ending tour is gone. They're hoping to find. He's hoping to find another team. But a story came out as to why it ended with the Clippers. People were a little surprised. Like, Clippers aren't even good. Why can't he just finish the year? Well, it turns out he threw a Halloween party and he invited his teammates, and none of them came to his Halloween party.

[Shannon Dawson]

Sounds like my friends.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So no one came to. Well, first of all, you don't invite us. I would come to your party. You don't invite us. Probably not, but I would think about it. But no one came to his Halloween party and apparently made him mad, and that started the process of him no longer being on the team. Now, I'm not trying to disparage Chris Paul, but that man is 40 years old. Right. He's been the former president of the Players association, so he has been a leader in the NBA. Don't you feel like it's a little bit of an overreaction to having a Christmas party and people not coming? Or is it really rude for this legendary guy on your team to not come to his Christmas party or, excuse me, his Halloween party?

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't know. It seems Chris Paul isn't the most loved guy in the league. I saw somebody compared him to Chevy Chase recently about how, you know, he's successful and considered one of the greats, but he's not really well liked by his peers. I thought that was a mean comparison. Yeah, I just saw that this week. So I think it just says a lot more of how he's liked when he's not playing basketball.

[Matt Jones]

But if you're playing on a basketball team and your teammate throws a Halloween party, do you at least have an obligation to stop by?

[Ryan Lemond]

I think you can just tell them, no. Like, dude, I see you. I was lifting weights to you at 6am we have a game tomorrow. I don't need to see you at a Halloween party.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

I think the fact that not one teammate showed up is very telling what they think about him in that locker room. Not one. At least one guy. He's got a buddy in the locker. He must not have your friends respected by anybody, for anybody.

[Matt Jones]

Don't you feel bad for him? He's sitting there at home, like, at his Halloween party. He's dressed Dracula. Yeah, he's dressed as Dracula. He's sitting in his house and he's like, when are they coming? Where is everybody?

[Ryan Lemond]

He's holding a bowl full of candy.

[Matt Jones]

He's got candy. And, like, they're playing Monster Mash in the background, and then no one walks in.

[Ryan Lemond]

He's got a table out with cupcakes he made. Okay, now I'm starting to feel bad for Chris Paul.

[Matt Jones]

Bad for him. You know, I've always. You mentioned Chevy Chase. I've always heard that story, and it has always made me sad.

[Shannon Dawson]

What's the story?

[Drew Franklin]

He's a jerk off off camera.

[Matt Jones]

No. So Chevy Chase. They were doing the roast of Chevy Chase for Comedy Central, and he agreed to do the roast because he was like, oh, this will be awesome. All my friends that I was in the comedy world with, they will come in because they don't tell you who's going to be there. They will come and do the roast with me, and it'll be awesome and it'll be exciting. And then all of a sudden, he gets there and none of his friends came, and it's all strangers, and they just destroy him. And apparently, when it was over, the magazine article says he just goes home and cries because he expected, like, Bill Murray and all these people to come, and no one came. And instead, these young people were just like, you're a jerk. And the story, it's really sad. It's like an Esquire story. He goes up to the hotel room when it's over and sits by himself and just cries all night. Now, I know people say Chevy Chase is a jerk, but every time I think of Chevy Chase, I hear that story, and it makes me sad. He may be the worst jerk, but that's still sad.

[Ryan Lemond]

The roast are supposed to be your friends just kind of getting their digs in on y' all in good fun, but they just teed off on him. They're like complete strangers to him, and they were strangers.

[Matt Jones]

And so, like, he Just had to sit there and watch all these straight. Like when you all roasted me, it was my friends roasting me. This was a group of strangers because his friends would not come.

[Shannon Dawson]

Well, moral of the story, don't be a jerk.

[Matt Jones]

I know, but I still felt sorry for that story has always bothered me. Well, does it bother you at all?

[Drew Franklin]

I've seen that story. I read that story. So it makes me a little sad for him. But like Shannon said, man, be careful on your way up because you're going to see him on your way back down.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I guess I just feel bad. Who's next?

[Drew Franklin]

Will.

[Matt Jones]

Will. Go ahead, Will.

[Caller]

Hey, good morning fellas.

[Matt Jones]

Good morning.

[Caller]

Day off like Shannon suggested. So had a few takes I wanted to get off but I was, I was wanting to call in and say all on the Watchtower is the best cover of all time.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that's a good one. That's a good one.

[Caller]

That was mentioned. Yeah, I don't know if that was mentioned but really was intrigued by your guys conversation about the NBA earlier and the game possibly coming to rup. I had no idea about that. But I also wanted to get your guys thoughts on expansion and I'll kind of just you know, leave it at that and think if we get this game at Rupp Arena a team might come to this area. Cincinnati, Louisville or Lexington.

[Matt Jones]

So he was also asked by that about that he was asked about expansion. Appreciate the call. And he said they're going to decide it next year and it would basically he acknowledged if they did it it would be Las Vegas and Seattle so it would not be Louisville. So Louisville kind of once again getting turned down. I think, I think the problem for Louisville is they're probably one or two major corporate sponsors short. Right. They have ups, they have like Ford is there and a couple, they need like one more. And I, as I understand it, they just, they don't feel like they have that and so and then Memphis has been an example. Like Memphis had a team pretty much just cause of FedEx and now it's not really doing well and they're kind of stuck there and they don't want to have a second situation like Memphis. So Drew, I just think we're probably not going to end up getting one which is a shame because I actually think Louisville could support an NBA team. But then again their attendance at the U of L games doesn't help the cause either because no one's going to the U of L game.

[Ryan Lemond]

So yeah it would work if the Louisville and Kentucky fan bases came together. And supported the team, which I think they would selfishly. I would love for it to be there. I would be all in on whatever the team was. And just think if we looked into drafting a guy out of Kentucky or getting one that's already in the league to play for them. I mean, it would be awesome around here.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. But I don't, I don't suspect it would happen, but I would love it. It would be awesome.

[Drew Franklin]

It was a time like before COVID or every time there was expansion and it was talked about, Louisville was like in the top two, top three.

[Matt Jones]

Every time I've been told that there was like eight or 10 years ago, the Grizzlies were very close to moving to Louisville, but then Fed FedEx was like, we're not losing the team to UPS. And so they end up, you know, keeping it there. And that was. The rest is history. But I think it could work, but I think it's unlikely to happen. The official UK Federal Credit Union Ryan, you may not know this. Tell me about they're the official credit union of Joy.

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[Matt Jones]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-774-5254. Will Wade, the coach of NC State, gave a quote yesterday. He was talking about his team's toughness and what they what's important to him. And he said, quote, we have a 3.0 GPA. That's wonderful. If we were running a daycare, but we run a competitive basketball program and we've got a lot of casual personalities on the team. I don't totally understand what that means, I guess. Does he not want them to get good grades? Does he want them to have a better than a 3.0? Like the quote is, we have a 3.0 GPA. That's wonderful. If we run a daycare, but we're a competitive basketball program. What do you. What do you think that means?

[Ryan Lemond]

Sounds like they're focusing too much on school.

[Matt Jones]

He.

[Drew Franklin]

He's. Is he implying that if you have a GPA of three or higher, you can't be competitive and you can't be tough? Is that what he's implying?

[Matt Jones]

He's implying something like that.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's kind of how I take it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

You're studying too much.

[Matt Jones]

You two are too smart. Reminds me of the famous Mark Stoops. I know that's what you're thinking.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I didn't know if you're gonna say it.

[Matt Jones]

I know, I know. Is it Time to say that quote.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, he's not the coach anymore.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Should we say that, Drew? I'm not.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's all you.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, right? No, no, no, no. You can't put it on me. You can't put it on me. You have to be part of it. Ryan has. You know what? We'll let this skip one day.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Not.

[Ryan Lemond]

I would vote no. Sorry. Sorry, listeners.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, we'll give it a year because it's. It's a great quote. 859-280-2287. One person writes Matt with Jaden Quaintance for the rest of the year. And let's say he plays well. What's our seed in the tournament say? Jaden Quaintance is good. And let's say Jalen Lowe stays healthy. So let's. Let me put those two caveats, because I think those are two big caveats. Jalen Quaintance is good. Jalen Lowe stays healthy. What's our seed in the tournament? Understanding that we've already lost four games.

[Ryan Lemond]

They say they don't factor in injuries. But if Quaint's in, Lowe were to be at full strength and Kentucky look really good, I think they would consider that a little bit. I'll say a four seed right now. They're a nine, at least, if you believe the bracketologies. So I'll say four.

[Matt Jones]

I think you're right about that, by the way, that if that happens and we're good, they'll factor in the fact that we didn't have those guys at the beginning.

[Ryan Lemond]

That could be like two of your best players not playing out, playing without him.

[Matt Jones]

Say you could get all the way up to a three. If that happens. If, if your scenario now, if he's just okay and lows in and out, then I think you're looking at like a six, seven. He did it. I didn't mean to do it.

[Caller]

Sorry.

[Ryan Lemond]

I couldn't help it.

[Matt Jones]

I didn't mean to do that. I see y' all laughing over there. What do you think?

[Drew Franklin]

You. Yeah, those four losses are going to factor in, but you're right, if they play the way we think they're going to play and they stay healthy, they could get in that 3, 4 range for sure.

[Matt Jones]

The North Carolina loss is going to be the one that sticks.

[Drew Franklin]

It matters.

[Matt Jones]

The Michigan State, Gonzaga margin matters, but the Michigan State, Gonzaga and Louisville on the road, like, those are losses you can take. But that North Carolina at home loss, that's going to be one that sticks.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, we were talking before the year how, how good the, the home schedule is that you really don't need to give up more than one game at home, maybe to Florida all year. And you go and lose your first big test at home, that one's going to haunt them.

[Matt Jones]

That was good.

[Ryan Lemond]

And the way you've led the whole game to till the drought at the end.

[Matt Jones]

We have a basketball team here. They're from Birmingham, Alabama. They're here to play Frankfurt tonight in basketball. They said they heard this was the spot. So their big, big team over the.

[Drew Franklin]

Pregame meal at KS Bar and Drew.

[Matt Jones]

Like to root for out of state teams against Frankfurt, but I haven't seen Frankfurt here.

[Drew Franklin]

Where the Frankfurt Panthers, they're not here today.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going to have to take them against Frankfort. Ton, who's next?

[Shannon Dawson]

Mark.

[Ryan Lemond]

Mark.

[Matt Jones]

Go ahead, Mark.

[Caller]

Hey, guys, how you doing this morning?

[Matt Jones]

Doing good.

[Caller]

By the way, I'm a fellow Middlesborough alumni, graduated in 1979.

[Matt Jones]

Well, go jackets. And.

[Caller]

I'm like everybody else, I'm concerned about the, about the basketball program. You know, we're nationally being made fun of for the money that we spent in the transfer portal. And then recruiting wise, we're being made fun of. And my question is, at what point does Mark Pope or someone go to JMI and say, look, guys, we've got to change this. We can't get any players.

[Matt Jones]

Well, we'll see. I think it's going to depend on what happens with these recruits this year. I appreciate the call. I mean, Drew, I think this is all going to be evaluated based on a couple things. We talked about this. If they get Stokes and Collins, then none of this will matter, right? All this conversation, while interesting, will ultimately not have make a big difference. Even if they don't get them, if they clean up in the portal, like really get all their top targets, that might be okay, right? But if you don't get the high school guys, you don't clean up in the portal, then I don't think there's any doubt that changes will have to be made because fans will demand it. And by the way, we won't be good next year. Like, ultimately this all comes down to we got to be good next year. Because I think unless we go on a crazy run here, fans are going to demand success from Pope next year. I generally think coaches get three years unless it's a disaster. So he'll get a third year and it'll need to be good.

[Ryan Lemond]

And I would love for them to shut everybody up and go get Stokes or Collins because it really stinks. Knowing there's so many reports out there about how it was pretty much done and just got to the final closing table and couldn't finish there. I mean, if they end up with none of them, I think it's a direct reflection of how unorganized things are. Maybe the contract situation's too much, so please get one of them because there's not anyone left. There's not a backup plan. Kentucky will probably not have a top 50 recruit in this class and that however Pope finishes the year, the recruiting concerns will just carry on to the spring. And that stuff snowballs because next year's kids are like, well, why did anybody want to go there?

[Matt Jones]

Exactly. And then there's. There's a couple issues. One, Pope has not gotten in his entire career a top 40 player not from the state. If you go another year without doing that, and then the other player. Thing is, Pope has not had a first round draft pick. And so every year that goes on the chances of you signing one of the top 40 and then getting a guy who can be a first round draft pick is more. Now Jaden Quaint's might be that first round draft pick. That's why in part, we need him to really be good for this team, but also to show, hey, I'm Mark Pope, I can make a guy go to the NBA. That I think helps as well.

[Drew Franklin]

We've talked a lot about. It's the perception of it as much as bringing that kid on campus. It's the perception you have the ability to land a top recruit like that.

[Matt Jones]

And I think he's going to be the only guy Mark's coached at Kentucky that we're going to look on the floor and go, oh, okay, that's a different kind of athlete. That's a Cal athlete. And we, this will be the only one of these guys. We have not had that in these two years. We've had some great college players, but we haven't had that. That kind of. Okay, I know what that is.

[Ryan Lemond]

And if that's what he is, he better be playing a lot of minutes. Like I don't want to see he gets 27 and Garrison gets eight. Moreno, good. No, none of that. If he is truly a top 10 player, you play him as much as he can. Absolutely. Take.

[Matt Jones]

Well, one of the things those agents that were quoted in the story said is these top dudes don't want to play 20 minutes, right? They want 30 minutes, 30 to 35 minutes. Pope's got to show he's willing to do that. Right. And I think that is also. That's a big part of this. 859-280-2287. Take a break. Be right back.

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Welcome back. This would be, you know, top 25 songs for me. I think this would be in there. Shannon, I would. That would be on my. If I was doing a double disc, right?

[Shannon Dawson]

I know you love some petty. Did you ever put out your. Weren't you gonna do like your top 100 songs? Did you ever do that?

[Drew Franklin]

Trying to remember.

[Shannon Dawson]

I don't think you.

[Matt Jones]

No, I need to do it in the summer because it would like. We'd spend a lot of time talking about them, but I'd like to do that. I'd like to rank my top hundred and do the thing where you can only have one from each artist.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, that would make a tip.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, can I give you quickly. I won't. I won't do this long, but do you quickly. One more trivia from last. All right, all right. So Spotify's existed since 2012. I saw the list of top 500 streamed artists on Spotify. Now, not surprisingly, most of them are recent because people stream new music. Right. So I looked at the top 80. Ryan, I want to see if you follow it.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

And there were only 12 artists in the top 80 whose first album came out before 2005. Do you understand why? Because people listen to modern artists. They don't listen to older artists. So of the top 80 streamed of artists of all time, only 12, their first album came out before 2005. So like Taylor Swift's came out in 2006. Drake came out in 2005. Rihanna come it came out in 2005. So who are the 12 top artists that have been streamed on Spotify? Whose album. First album came out before 2005? So you got to think about who are artists that are older but that are still listened to today by people.

[Shannon Dawson]

I got one guess.

[Matt Jones]

What's your guess?

[Shannon Dawson]

Beyonce.

[Matt Jones]

Beyonce is one of them. So they're so beyond. So Shannon gets one.

[Drew Franklin]

Britney Spears.

[Matt Jones]

Britney Spears was oddly not on it. I don't think.

[Drew Franklin]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think that's a bad guess. But not on it. Good, Good.

[Drew Franklin]

Every time you ask a streaming question, I always guess bad Bunny, but they probably is.

[Matt Jones]

But he came out after 2005. Like there's a ton of them that came after 2005.

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't think Drake goes that far back.

[Matt Jones]

He was 2005. Oh, you did say Jay Z. Jay Z. There's two of them. Shannon and Ryan getting one. Anybody else? You all want to guess? Feel free to jump in, sir. You got the one a minute ago about the president. Mariah Carey. Good guess. She was like 100th, but that's a good guess. Yes.

[Shannon Dawson]

Is Rihanna on there?

[Matt Jones]

Rihanna was 2005, like I said.

[Drew Franklin]

Who?

[Matt Jones]

Journey. No, Journey. Not on there. Eminem. Well done. Nice job. Eminem. So that's three of the 12. Eminem is one.

[Ryan Lemond]

Garth Brooks.

[Matt Jones]

Garth Brooks. So.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, he's not on Spotify.

[Matt Jones]

That's exactly right. So that. So he would be on there, except he's not on Spotify. Anybody want to do one more guess before I give the answers? Number one is Kanye West. Who came out in 2000.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Then it was Eminem, Coldplay, Lil Wayne, Maroon 5.

[Drew Franklin]

I almost said them.

[Matt Jones]

Why didn't you?

[Drew Franklin]

And I thought it was a ridiculous guess.

[Matt Jones]

It was not a ridiculous.

[Shannon Dawson]

Ridiculously.

[Matt Jones]

Right. Beyonce, Shakira, Justin Timberlake.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Jay Z, Tupac, and then two old bands. Shannon. I was shocked. One of them's the Beatles. That's not shocking. Yeah, but how about Queen? Did you know that people still listen to Queen like that?

[Shannon Dawson]

I try to not play Queen every afternoon.

[Drew Franklin]

You're making a big mistake.

[Shannon Dawson]

I guess I should play more.

[Matt Jones]

Did you know that, like, kids listen to Queen?

[Ryan Lemond]

When did that movie come out?

[Matt Jones]

That's the answer right there. You know what? That's the answer. That movie, Bohemian Rhapsody. That's a good.

[Ryan Lemond]

And I think they've got some TikTok. They go viral on Tik Tok with a couple songs too.

[Matt Jones]

When I saw Queen last night, I was like, why is Queen on your ex? Exactly right. That's because of that movie. Good call. Who's next?

[Shannon Dawson]

Let's go to Chris.

[Matt Jones]

Chris. Go ahead, Chris.

[Caller]

Hey, guys. Number one, excited about coming to watch the volleyball team tonight at your place. Number two, Queen. We will rock you is consistent with high school sports teams, man. They. They still rock that.

[Ryan Lemond]

True.

[Matt Jones]

They probably play them in games a lot. That's a good call. Yeah.

[Caller]

And then number three, as a girl. Dad, I got a nine year old girl. And I'm gonna throw in a counter thought on that. They shouldn't be alone until 14 years old. That's when I'm not leaving her alone, bro. Once puberty's hit.

[Matt Jones]

That's true. That's a good call. That's a good call. I appreciate it. I hope you Bring your daughter tonight. I. I think it's always cool when we do have these women's sports events. There's always a lot of young girls here cheering it on. That's cool. When we did the soccer team that one point. The women's soccer team and as well. Appreciate the call. I have an idea, by the way. Have I said on here the idea I have for the World cup this year?

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't think so.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't think you've said anything.

[Matt Jones]

We're talking about this hubby and I. I want to know if you think this is a good idea during the World Cup. You know, that's a very slow time at the bar during June and July. So we're trying to figure out how do you get some business, how do you do it? We thought that every day we would pick a team that's playing and invite a local person who cooks food from that country to be the guest chef at the bar that day.

[Drew Franklin]

I love it.

[Matt Jones]

So if, like Argentina played, we would have someone here who cooks food from Argentina, and that day we would serve Argentina food here, invite people who have food, food trucks and stuff and like, give a taste of various foods. Do you like that idea?

[Drew Franklin]

Love that idea. Have some specials that day particular to that country. I love it.

[Matt Jones]

And pick a country every day of the World cup that is playing that day.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, we'll just embrace all their culture as best we can here.

[Drew Franklin]

I love it.

[Matt Jones]

And we'd probably, you know, bring somebody in. And it also gives a spotlight to somebody that has like a food truck or maybe a small restaurant in town or something like that.

[Ryan Lemond]

I like that a lot.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe we have that. There's a Haitian restaurant right next to here. So we're talking about when Haiti place because they made it that they can cook some of their food here.

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe fans of that team will come that day.

[Matt Jones]

Or just if you want to try the food.

[Drew Franklin]

I would. I would want to try the food.

[Matt Jones]

What do you think?

[Drew Franklin]

I love it. That's a great idea. Proud of you.

[Matt Jones]

Well, we haven't done it yet.

[Drew Franklin]

No, you got to do it now.

[Ryan Lemond]

We got to find the people.

[Matt Jones]

By the way, a couple other bands that were close but not on the list. Michael Jackson was very close. He was like. You would think he'd be higher, but he was like 85. Fleetwood Mac was surprisingly very high.

[Drew Franklin]

There's still hold up today.

[Matt Jones]

Well, TikTok guys skateboarding, maybe the Tick. I'm not. You might be right. The Tick Tock guys skateboarding. And what was that song he was playing.

[Shannon Dawson]

Dreams.

[Matt Jones]

Dreams? Yeah, maybe.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know, it's amazing how songs can you go viral on Tick Tock or in a movie. And they come all the way back.

[Drew Franklin]

Find a whole new generation.

[Matt Jones]

I will tell you what made me crazy was seen there were people ahead of the Beatles that I'd never heard of. Like one spot ahead of the Beatles was someone named Daddy Yankee. Who's that?

[Ryan Lemond]

He's a legend.

[Matt Jones]

Who's Daddy Yankee and how is he head of the Beatles?

[Ryan Lemond]

I probably wouldn't put him out of the Beatles on my list, but he's got a big following.

[Matt Jones]

Who is he?

[Ryan Lemond]

He's like a rapper. He's been around a long time.

[Matt Jones]

Daddy, first of all, it ain't calling somebody Daddy Yankee. Who's next?

[Shannon Dawson]

Free Bird.

[Matt Jones]

Free Bird, go ahead.

[Caller]

Hey guys, glad everybody's back and Merry Christmas. Matt, I called the pre show and got Shannon's take on this and Mario's about. I know we're having JMI stuff here. Do you think or do you know any knowledge of any of these other schools are having issues and all this?

[Matt Jones]

Well, as I understand. And again, I don't fully understand it and I'm trying to understand it a little more, but as I understand it, the contract that we're doing is just different than the other ones. And that's why this is happening is the. And again, I think it's an issue that really affects elite basketball players. I don't think it affects the average players. I don't think it affects football players. I think is an issue for elite basketball players. Let's use the example of Christian Collins. He signs with Crocs. Okay. Crocs is not an official partner of UK Athletics because it's a huge national company. Your average offensive lineman is not going to have a chance to sign with Crocs, you know, so I think it actually affects just kind of elite college basketball player.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, it's actually works out really well for Olympic sports like volleyball. I'm sure they're getting things they would normally get. I see the Clark's Pump and Shop commercials. But a guy like Stokes, who's going to have a Mega Nike deal, I mean he's. He's got a lot more options than just about anybody else in his position.

[Matt Jones]

And it probably has an impact. I appreciate the call on like elite quarterbacks. Like if we had Diego Pavia, it would make a difference. But we haven't had a Diego Papia, so it hasn't made a difference yet.

[Drew Franklin]

I'll ask you a question. A guy asked Me. So let's just use that example. Collins and Crocs. He comes here to Kentucky and the Crocs want to do a national ad campaign with him. He can't wear anything. Kentucky Crocs demands he wears red and black in the commercial.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think it's the demanding wearing red and black. Again, I want to make sure this is true. I'm trying to, I want to talk to them to make sure. As I understand it, if you sign the deal with jmi, which guarantees you the money, which is what these players all want, like a guaranteed amount of money, if Crocs wants to do an ad with Collins, they will have to, as I understand it, go through jmi. Now if Collins wants to come to UK and not sign with jmi, he's free to go do whatever he wants. But then he's not guaranteed the money. So the issue is, can we come to a system where he signs with JMI to be guaranteed the money, but he can also separate from them, sign with Crocs and as I, I don't, as I, as I understand it, he's free to sign with Crocs and come to uk, but then he won't get the guaranteed money.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And that I think is, is the rub, as I understand. But I wanna, if that's wrong, I want to know that because I want to make sure. Because when you hear Mitch say it, he says correctly that you can do your own thing. But he's yet to say that you could do your own thing and still also sign with jmi. And so I don't know the answer to that question.

[Ryan Lemond]

To see the cryptic message Collins put out with his. It says if you see me with a deal, you know I made that decision. Is that like a shot, like I'm going to do this on my own?

[Matt Jones]

I didn't like that comment.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I don't know that that was a shot at J mine.

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Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio Text Machine 772-774-52541 Person Writes Matt, do you think Mark Pope can continue coaching this team effectively with his voice strain and him not being able to yell? It's gotta be hard, though. I mean, I. I'm sure you can do it, but it's gotta be hard. You guys better do what I say. But like, they Say, he said a month, didn't he?

[Ryan Lemond]

He's gotta get that figured out. Your head coach, Kentucky, you're gonna do some yelling, and it's not going away anytime soon.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, that must be really strained vocal cords. I mean, I've lost my voice, but before. And it's like two, three, four days and it's back. But he's been like that for a while. Apparently. It all stemmed from, like, the Michigan State game up in New York.

[Drew Franklin]

The one thing that helps that is rest. And he has zero time to rest that voice right now. Coaching a basketball team.

[Matt Jones]

But how could you scream so much in one game that you lose your voice for two months?

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Ryan Lemond]

And we were watching him in that game. I don't remember a lot of screaming. That was one of the staring off at the space games.

[Matt Jones]

It must have been bad in the locker room.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Must have done it halftime or after the game.

[Drew Franklin]

You know, he got a lot of pushback from the Gonzaga game. People say we just standing over there with his arms crossed.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I don't know what you do. I mean, there are some coaches. Like, Cal couldn't do it.

[Drew Franklin]

No, no.

[Matt Jones]

Cal would have physically exploded. Rick would have been the same way. By the way, I was on a St. John's I was on a St. John's podcast last night. I tweeted it out. You can watch it. And we previewed the game, learned a lot of stuff about the St. John's team we're playing. They have a lot of the same issues we do. They don't have a point guard and they can't shoot. And that's been their problem this year. So we're going to be kind of looking in the mirror. Although we may now have a point guard.

[Drew Franklin]

That's true.

[Matt Jones]

But they don't have a point guard and they have not been able to shoot. And like, repetitly, Rick Tino's last. Your team could shoot. And they say Bryce Hopkins is against the good teams. Been very disappointed.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, he's called him out publicly. There's even been some benching. He's lit a fire under him. I know that breaks Shannon's heart because that's his boy, but he.

[Matt Jones]

He's.

[Ryan Lemond]

He's still one. I'm worried about having a breakout game.

[Matt Jones]

When he sees that logo across Bryce Hopkins once. Are we supposed to beat Bryce? Is this Bryce Hopkins? Is this his fourth school? He was at Kentucky, Providence, Georgetown, St. John's no, I don't think he ever.

[Ryan Lemond]

Made it to Georgetown. It was rumored he was going to Go there. And he ended up at St. John's I think it's just three and five years.

[Shannon Dawson]

Saw Aaron Bradshaw last night playing for Memphis.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So. Yeah. This guy right here was just telling me is Penny Hardaway.

[Shannon Dawson]

Says he is taking his nil money.

[Matt Jones]

He is finding Aaron Bradshaw Nil money every time he doesn't do something. I. I don't think that's legal.

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't think it is either.

[Shannon Dawson]

Apparently he's having a hard time showing up on time.

[Ryan Lemond]

Charge them $3,000 for being late. Find him 3,000 for something else.

[Matt Jones]

I've never heard of college coaches doing that. I don't know if you're allowed to do it, but I guess you're. A rule is not a rule without a punishment. So unless somebody does something, I guess he can do it. What do you think about finding players for not showing up?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, those days are just, you know, running the stairs and sitting half a basketball. I guess those days may be over now. You're going to take some of your money. Hurt you a little more.

[Matt Jones]

I feel like Aaron Bradshaw played here like the first 40s. Like Bryce Hopkins too. I mean, Bryce Hopkins. What team was he on? He was on five years ago. I mean which, which one was he on? I get confused with all these teams. Yeah, so you have the Covid team was like BJ Boston, Terence Clark. And who was the next year's team? Who were the best players on the team that ended in 22? Was that Oscar's first year?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I think that was a Bryce year too.

[Matt Jones]

So that was Oscar. That was Bryce Severe, Damien Topping.

[Ryan Lemond]

We should know this, but I. I've blacked the last few years of Kentucky basketball out of my brain.

[Matt Jones]

What? No, that was the COVID year team. The. The Jacob Toppin, I think was on that team. Then the next year was Oscar. I think Toppin was gone. Was Ty.

[Drew Franklin]

Ty. Ty was in the first Oscar year. Right. And then the second year, the second.

[Matt Jones]

One was Casey Wallace. Right. That was the year we lost to.

[Ryan Lemond]

So the Case and Wallace Livingston, that group beat Bryce Hopkins.

[Drew Franklin]

That's right.

[Ryan Lemond]

In Providence, Ty.

[Matt Jones]

Ty lost to St. Peter's Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

And then Casein and Oscar beat. Lost to Kansas State.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, they beat Bryce Hopkins.

[Matt Jones]

And then the next year is Reed, Rob and all those guys. And am I right about that?

[Drew Franklin]

Right? I think you're right.

[Matt Jones]

Those years, they get muddled to me head and I can't. I can't keep them all together. Who's next?

[Shannon Dawson]

Steve.

[Matt Jones]

Steve. What's up, Steve?

[Caller]

Hey guys. You remember Back when, when Mitch hired Mark Pope, the one question was, can he recruit at a high level? Yeah, everybody was. I speak for myself, I was a little nervous about the hire and then he had all this success last year. I really am just at a loss to understand why UK would give JMI so much power. I mean, recruiting is hard enough when you don't have your hands tied behind your back. Offense matters, results matter, the coach matters. This should have already been addressed. I don't understand why we're still talking about this. Is this something that you think. Because I got to say, I disagree with your point that we can afford to miss out on these two top 10 recruits that were literally waiting to sign with UK because I think we needed those guys and a strong portal class.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I'm not saying we could afford to. I don't get me wrong, we need to get. We need to get them both, but we definitely need to get one. We can't. In my opinion, we can't strike out on both of them. So on that you and I agree, we've got to get one of these guys. And if I said the opposite, I didn't. I was misspoke. We've got to get one of those guys.

[Caller]

Have to Kentucky force J to. To reverse this or take these provisions out because I don't.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think it's going to be about. Thank you guys. I don't think it's going to be about forcing them. I think everybody's just going to have to do it because. For the good of. But we'll see. Again, I appreciate the call. I don't mean to put that off, but I actually think a lot's happening over the next week or so and I want to wait and see how. How it plays out. Let's do DraftKings real quick. Big Thursday night game tonight. 11 and 3 LA Rams. 11 and 3. Seahawks of the biggest Thursday night games of the year. Who you got?

[Drew Franklin]

Rams. They're rolling.

[Ryan Lemond]

Seattle gets it done at home.

[Matt Jones]

Take. Take the Rams to win on the road. What do you got?

[Shannon Dawson]

I'm taking Seattle at home.

[Matt Jones]

Big game. Maybe one of the best Thursday night games of the year. We will have it at the bar. But on a secondary tv. Women's volleyball tonight win, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

Absolutely.

[Drew Franklin]

When beat beat Wisconsin.

[Ryan Lemond]

We owe Wisconsin in the final 4:00'.

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[Matt Jones]

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