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Welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.
Matt Jones
Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287 Text Machine 7 to 7745254 we're going to be at the bar Wednesday and Thursday for people who want to come watch. And then Friday we are in Louisville at Cornbread Hemp. So all of you Louisville UK fans will be down there Friday for a rare Louisville show. So be ready and Wednesday and Thursday at the bar. The game is Wednesday night. We'll obviously be doing stuff at the bar for that. And then I'm contemplating having a Will Stein watch party for the Oregon game Friday night. Still deciding if we're going to do that because I don't know if people are rooting for him to win or not.
Shannon
Where are you on that argument? Talk too much about it.
Matt Jones
Still want him to win at this point. If he was going to lose, I wish he would have lost the last game so we would have had him for this portal. Now that we've lost him for this week, then go win. That's our advertisement.
Shannon
Yeah. The more he succeeds now, the more people want to play, possibly play for him.
Matt Jones
They beat that Indiana team. That's a great win. So yeah, at this point I'd like him to win. I probably would have liked him to win anyway. I think it's a good advertisement when they show him and they have success. That's great. That's good. So 859-280-2287 I'm gonna get back to the phones in just a second. I want to go over this. Some, some other stuff. You want to go real quick.
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Matt Jones
Things that happened when I'm, when I was gone. Tally Ho closed.
Shannon
Yes. It was big news because it kind of came out of nowhere. They announced like two days before December 31st, they're closing into the year.
Matt Jones
There's a generation of people, Mario's probably in this generation, that don't understand, like, Tally Ho to them is like a restaurant.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Like, if KS Bar were to close, people would be sad. But it was like a restaurant, and you ate there and you had fun. But, like, restaurants open, they close. But Tally Ho was like an institution.
Shannon
Absolutely.
Matt Jones
Especially if you were of a certain generation, if you went to College in the mid-90s through probably the 2015. 15, 2012. Right. Tally ho was the one place you went and ate out on campus. Like, people are used to that campus now being there's a lot of places. But there was a time there were like, three places. Tally Ho. What would you call it? Two keys, Linus.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Right. That was it. That was all. There were just people. There wasn't stuff. And then the. The CD store, which is thinking.
Shannon
Still open. Is it?
Matt Jones
No, it's not. That CD store is still open. It might be CD Central or whatever.
Shannon
By McDonald's right there.
Matt Jones
No way that's still open.
Shannon
No, Mario says no, it was open.
Matt Jones
There was a time that was a whole vibe.
Shannon
Oh, yes.
Matt Jones
All right. But that Tally Ho, like, you could go in there on any given night and you'd be like, oh, I want a burger. Hey, there's Tayshawn Prince.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And this was like, he'd just be sitting there at three in the morning hanging out. Burgers were good.
Shannon
Greasy food is always the best. Late at night.
Matt Jones
Good. And it was like, we didn't have as many options. So that option wasn't people. We would walk from Transylvania to eat there.
Shannon
Wow.
Matt Jones
Right.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
In the middle of the night. So now, I mean, it's still there. And, like, it's good. I ate there a couple months ago. But I think a lot of the nostalgia for it closing goes back to what it was when we were young. Would you agree with that?
Shannon
Yeah. And that's when it was on Limestone, right there by campus. If you went to uk, you went to. You went to Tally Ho at some point in your.
Matt Jones
Nobody. Nobody that went to UK from 1993 to 2012 did not go to Tally.
Shannon
You absolutely went there.
Matt Jones
No one. Everybody. And probably everybody that went to Trans.
Shannon
Yep.
Matt Jones
Probably everybody that lived in Lexington. But if you like, that was the vibe. That was a vibe. Tuesday night. I talk about. I've talked about this with Mario before. Tuesday nights on Limestone, they would release new CDs at CD Central. No, I'm not kidding, Shannon. You know, like, when A new Nirvana CD or. Or would come out.
Mario
Tupac. Yeah.
Matt Jones
People would get there at midnight. They would release Tuesday night at midnight, and people would get there and they would line up down the street and whatever band you liked or musical artists you liked, it was like, you got to have a party with those people, Shannon. You got to meet everybody that also liked the person you like.
Mario
Yep.
Matt Jones
And you would eat at Two Keys, or. Excuse me, you would eat at Tally Ho. Maybe you partied at Two Keys and then you lined up for that cd. And a lot of times on Tuesday nights, my friends and I would just go and buy whatever CD came out.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
I used to have a lot of bands I didn't even like just because I wanted to go do the Tuesday night thing there. They. People don't understand that now, Shannon, but that was a thing back then.
Mario
Yeah. I remember visiting some friends. I didn't obviously, go to Kentucky, but I had friends that did. And we always ended the night at Tally Ho. Going there after, you know, lost this vibe.
Shannon
When it moved off Limestone, I got.
Matt Jones
I guess they sold that building to uk, right?
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Had to go.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
UK is going to put. I don't know.
Shannon
And they tried a couple of places.
Matt Jones
And they're going to do. Well, no, but they're doing where they are now. They bought.
Shannon
Yeah. All they did that place.
Matt Jones
They are now. I think UK brought it to.
Shannon
Wow. It's kind of sad, man. Like you said, it was. It was a Lexington institution.
Matt Jones
Yeah. So that was too bad. The. I did the New Orleans ball.
Shannon
I've been waiting to talk to you about this, so.
Matt Jones
Most nervous thing I've ever done in my life. Not. I mean, I'm not. I'm not kidding. You never been more nervous. Maybe the first show I did for ESPN was close to that. Nervous. I think I was more nervous for this. You know, I spent the days leading up to it practicing, and I was like, I'm. This is not my. This is not my skill set. Okay. This is not what I'm good at, and I know that. But I'm going to get through this, and I'm going to make it good just by sheer willpower. Okay. And I worked so hard at it. Like, I remember I knew the players, how to pronounce their names, backstories. I learned everything. I know more about the town of Bowling Green than the mayor himself. Bring him on here. I know more about your. Your town than you do. Right. Everybody that ever went to Western, everybody that ever went to Southern Miss. How Hattiesburg was Named after this dude. This dude cheated on his wife Hattie, and he wanted to make it up to her, so he took her to a new town and named the town after. How about that?
Mario
How did that work out in the story, though? Did she come back to him?
Matt Jones
That she did. And they lived in. Her name was Hattie, and so she. They named it Hattiesburg because he cheated on his wife and needed a new town.
Mario
He's still a cheater, though.
Matt Jones
But, but. But she lives in history.
Shannon
That's right.
Matt Jones
Hattiesburg. Always for her, to this day. Did you know there was a nuclear test in America once Everybody thinks about the one in New Mexico. Oh, no. There was also one in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. Right outside of Hattiesburg. In 1960, we blew up a bomb underground to see what would happen.
Mario
Now, how did you work that into the game?
Matt Jones
Didn't get in. There was a lot of information that I had that I didn't get to.
Mario
Like, if you had a long pass that was a bomb, you could have, you know, could have tied that in.
Matt Jones
It was like when they dropped a nuclear bomb. Hattiesburg. Didn't get that in. Met with the coaches before the games.
Shannon
How'd that go?
Matt Jones
That's weird. But here's the thing. That's crazy, Shannon. I don't think I knew this. Did you know that before the games these coaches will tell you what they're going to do? No, these coaches tell you, they tell you the trick plays they're going to run. Now, you can't say you promise not to tell the other team, and the other team tells you the same thing. So Southern Miss was telling us the trick play. They were telling us what to look for when. So like, a trick play would come and Myron would point and be like, this is it. Because they'd be like, watch out. This is where we'll do a loop de loo. Boo, boo, boo. And the play. And the announcers know. I knew that Western was going to put their backup in. Yeah, nobody Maverick, he told us. But it's amazing that they trust these announcers, Shannon, not to say anything.
Mario
Yeah, announcers know all this stuff. But then they realize they got a head.
Matt Jones
See, that's the thing I've learned. You know when Tony Romo would call out the plays. Yeah, that's cause they told him before.
Mario
Now it's not.
Matt Jones
Now we know. See, they've been hiding this way. I'm like the magician. You remember the magician that told all the tricks, showed you how to do all the tricks?
Mario
Yeah.
Matt Jones
These the announcers, they know because the coaches tell them before the game.
Mario
I thought Romo was so smart.
Matt Jones
You're wrong. He was told. I don't know enough about football to get all of it. But the TV guy that did it with us was this guy named Renee. He did it with a woman, Courtney Lyle. Two of the nicest people will forever be indebted to them. They helped me so much. Courtney Lyle and Renee, whatever his name is in Paglo. If you ever see those people, give them a hug. They couldn't have been nicer to me. But Renee knows football. He's like a police officer down in Florida that also calls games.
Shannon
He.
Matt Jones
He knew everything because the coaches were speaking his language, right? And they'd be like. When you see us, when you see a 12, 3 formation and we do the. And he'd be like, oh, okay. And he'd write it down. That's how they know, Ryan.
Shannon
Sure.
Matt Jones
They tell you.
Shannon
I told you this as soon as you walked in. I was so proud of you. I may have been more proud of you during that game than anything you've ever done. I knew it was out of your comfort zone. You had never done it before, ever. In your first games on national radio and ESPN radio doing a bowl game, you would tell. You were prepared. You knew what you were talking about. And I was. I tell you, I was more proud of you than preview anything you've done on this show here. But I gotta admit, two things. They go to the. They go to you in the middle.
Matt Jones
Of the first quarter. Hard. Had to be tough. Had to be in the middle of a drive.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Cause you're calling the game, Shannon, even though it's not on the radio. Right. I'm just calling it for the ether because they want us to have the play in case they don't happen.
Mario
Right.
Matt Jones
So then all of a sudden, they just go. Five seconds. You're live. That freaks you out.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
You know, and you get.
Shannon
And they had a. Early on, like, terrible injury. Terrible injury. And you had to cut. Talk through that. I just came to you guys.
Mario
When you're watching a game and somebody gets.
Matt Jones
Exactly. Somebody gets hurt, what do they do? They go to commercial. Yeah, they. We didn't go to commercial.
Shannon
They couldn't. They just went to you guys.
Matt Jones
What do you say when a man is lying on the ground and can't move? And they say, kill seven minutes of airtime.
Shannon
That's tough. Without a field reporter.
Matt Jones
I can't talk about the bomb under Hattiesburg during that time I wasn't prepared for that. I didn't know what to say.
Shannon
Yeah, that was tough.
Matt Jones
And you can't just be like, well, hope he gets better.
Mario
That's when you dip into your medical background. And like, that was hard because we.
Matt Jones
Had just come on the air and then there was a seven minute pause and they didn't take a commercial break. Cause we had just come on the.
Shannon
Air and then there's a long touchdown run. And you did a great job calling it. You're so excited and. And you're like, oh, there's a flag. Yes. That doesn't matter.
Matt Jones
So that's another thing. The Superdome. Shannon has the highest announcing point of any stadium in America.
Shannon
Is it really okay?
Matt Jones
You need a Sherpa to get up there.
Mario
Do you have your binoculars?
Matt Jones
See, the problem with the binoculars, though, is you can't follow the ball. Think about when you wear binoculars. It's a very narrow thing. So I tried to do the binoculars. I couldn't. But I thought they said you can call it off. The monitor. Okay, you have a monitor?
Mario
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Here's the problem. It was a regional ESPN game, which meant the monitor was three seconds behind. So I couldn't call it from the monitor.
Shannon
That makes it even more impressive.
Matt Jones
What you ran into the. So I had to call it. Even though these people look like ants to me right now. Thankfully, I have a spotter who helped me. But it's hard.
Shannon
Oh, yeah.
Matt Jones
You can't even see the guy's numbers up there. And then this is the old man problem, Shannon.
Mario
Yeah.
Matt Jones
You know, I'm to the point now. Uncle Matt's gotten a little older. The eyesight ain't what it used to be. To read up close, I had to buy readers. All right? So when I get up close, I have to put on the readers. So what's the problem? Can't see the play with the readers on. So the play happens, readers off. Then I need to look down at my thing and see who. What the name of the person.
Shannon
Readers on, readers on.
Matt Jones
So I'm just sitting here going, readers on, readers off. Readers on, readers off. And this man, he's a nice man, but he looks at me and goes, maybe you should get bifocals.
Mario
Not to say the same thing. You need bifocals.
Matt Jones
I'm not bifocal age.
Mario
You are.
Matt Jones
Well, apparently I am.
Mario
You got to admit it sometimes when.
Matt Jones
It comes to these games.
Mario
Yeah.
Shannon
But one more thing I got to say about it.
Matt Jones
All right?
Shannon
It was so nice to see Doofenshmirtz Join the broadcast booth for a couple of plays.
Matt Jones
Did I. What did I do?
Shannon
Oh, my favorite one is when you. You asked Myron the question about who's been in the Superdome the most outside of football games, and he guessed correctly. The Pope.
Matt Jones
He said the Pope. And Doofenshmirtz was right there. You got to be kidding me. How did you do that? Oh, my God. I did do that. I did do that. Yeah, that's right when I finished. Okay. So I got, first of all, those of you that listen. And a lot of you did.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
I heard through a source at espn. They were shocked how many people listen through the app.
Shannon
Nice.
Matt Jones
Like, you all showed up in the app. Thank you very much. When it was over, I got very nice feedback. And then a week later, a really nice note from my boss. With that said, I walked out of there about as proud as I've been of myself in a long time.
Mario
Should have been.
Matt Jones
Not because it was great. I think by the end, we were pretty good. We had some rough points. I get it. But I knew how hard I worked on it. Yeah. And I knew that I hadn't, like, bombed because I kind of worried I was going to bomb the day before. I was freaking out. Mario was. Myron was like, all right, man. What we got to do. Where's, like, overconfident Matt here? You're freaking me out. He's like, you're going to do great. He kept telling me, shannon, I was going to do great so much that I kind of yelled at him, was like, stop saying that. You're making me nervous.
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Mario
Psyching you out.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Because he's.
Mario
You know, you're overthinking it too much. You're overthinking it.
Matt Jones
Then you're like, well, they don't really mean that. Yeah, something's not right. But by the end, we went out to dinner that night. This was the night of the 23rd, just me and him, and it was a really, like, proud moment. Like, we'd been through something. He's never done it either.
Shannon
Exactly.
Matt Jones
You know, neither of us had ever done it. When I told my producer Shannon, before it starts.
Mario
Yeah.
Matt Jones
He was like, so, you know, what's your alls experience? How often you done this? And I went, never. And Myron goes, well for football. Never. He was like, oh, what do I got myself into? No, he was. He was a nice man, but he was dead serious.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And he had a look like, are you kidding me? Neither of you have ever done this.
Shannon
They put me with you two Guys.
Matt Jones
I later found out they think I'm the only person ever that's done a debut broadcast national espn. Right.
Shannon
Not even a high school game.
Matt Jones
We had done zero games. So I was proud of myself and it was a good.
Shannon
You sent me that note during halftime. You said, man, this is the most chaotic thing I've ever been a part of.
Matt Jones
Hardest the first half. By the second half I got a rhythm. First half might be the hardest thing I've ever done in radio.
Shannon
But you couldn't tell it. You guys pulled it off.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Well, anyway, I don't know you guys.
Mario
So far away too. It's like they can.
Matt Jones
That's where it is. That's where everyone does it. Yeah, that's where everyone does it. But normally you have like a monitor. But because this was like a secondary not huge thing for ESPN, our monitor was three seconds even in the stadium.
Shannon
Was three seconds delay.
Matt Jones
Correct.
Shannon
Crazy.
Matt Jones
Yeah. 859-280-2287 we'll take a break. Barry backs KSL.
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Caller
Susan hi Matt, I just have a basketball comment and then I'll hang up and listen. This getting down by double digits like I think is partly related to the starting lineup this year, but it's also happened last year. It's been consistent through the Pope era in every marquee game. We get down big against Duke, against Gonzaga, against Alabama. And it made me think of a comment Pope made last year, which was the first half is just for gathering data.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Caller
And I don't, I'm sure that, I'm sure, I know, I'm sure that's not all that's happening. But it does look like we just roll the ball out there, go, let's see what happens. And then we're a totally different team after halftime. So I just want to ask the coaches if they could please, please, please gather data.
Matt Jones
Yeah, that's a great point.
Caller
Pregame prep like this seems to be the point of watching film and pregame walkthroughs. So maybe we could just do that before halftime.
Matt Jones
Susan, I think that's a great point. I appreciate the call. This team Mark Pope has shown himself to be a pretty good coach at adjustments. But why do you think we seem so unprepared at the start of games?
Shannon
It makes zero sense to be that smart of a coach to be all your analytics as everything is involved. And she's right. It's not just a one off thing that happened against Alabama. It's happened now for a year and a half. Get down early, have to fight and claw. You get down 20 in the first half against these good teams, it makes it hard to come back against anybody.
Matt Jones
I mean, we've been down double digits in half of our games.
Shannon
Makes no sense.
Matt Jones
And I bet you of those, I bet you most of them are in the first half.
Shannon
Yes. Usually like midway through the first half.
Matt Jones
We were down double digits against St. John's we came back back last year we were down 20 plus to Gonzaga. We did come back, but you can't keep giving yourself those holes.
Shannon
You take out that second half against St. John's I'd like to see what our point differential is in these other games, these other six games. Because it's got to be.
Matt Jones
It's gotta be bad. Chris, go ahead.
Caller
Hey guys.
Shannon
Good morning.
Caller
I just wanted to. Something that's been on my mind about it is I. I think everyone's kind of touched on a lot of the Pope topics. But my biggest issue is I do agree. I think we're stuck with him next year and I just don't know what we have to look forward to with him. He's proven he can't recruit, he can't land elite players. I'm just not sure what we have to look forward to in the club era.
Matt Jones
Well, I appreciate the call. I. It's. It's not looking good for the recruiting, but it's not over. Yeah. I mean, I'm hopefully looking forward to them being better than they are. I do think he has a major issue with PR with the fans right now, but it's not. I'm shocked that's an issue with him. I thought that would be something that wouldn't be a concern. I thought he would understand talking to the fans better than any coach we've ever had. Yep. I really did. I thought, that'll be one. You know, that'll be one. That'll be no problem. And I'm surprised, but I also. I hesitate how to say this, because I don't want to. So if you go over the years and you look at the coaches and I'm now talking not about coaching basketball. Okay. I'm talking about pr, like, understanding the fans since I've been doing ksr. When Billy Gillespie got here, his folks were like. And we weren't nearly as popular then. They were like, tell me about the Few K fan base. Same thing about Cal Perry. They did the exact same thing. Cal Perry, probably better than anybody. Mark Stoops, same thing. Will Stein, folks, same thing. Popes haven't, which is okay. They. They don't have to do that. But I have had good conversations with Mark twice. But I found it odd that, like, they haven't really done that at all. And I kind of thought, well, it doesn't really matter. Mark played here. He understands the fans. You know, they did that awesome event down here last year, and I was like, you know what? I get it. It's fine. Like, they don't need it, but I don't. This Mark Pope, since the Louisville game, has not been that guy. And I wonder, is there somebody that, like, who. Who's telling them what to do? You know what I mean? Like, who are they listening to? Who are they talking to? I don't know. There's never been a staff in the time that I've been at KSR where I've known less about the people that work here.
Shannon
Right.
Matt Jones
You know what I mean? Like, I don't know anything about the assistant coaches. I don't know anything about anybody there. Do you?
Shannon
No, I don't.
Matt Jones
I mean, do you like Jason Hart, Alvin Brooks?
Shannon
I know where they came from. Know nothing about.
Matt Jones
Spoken to him? Nope. Cody Figure?
Shannon
Nope.
Matt Jones
No idea. Mark Fox, I knew before he got here, so that's one person I know a little bit. Don't really know. Mark Pope.
Shannon
The Robinson guy that's on the staff.
Matt Jones
I wouldn't even recognize him. And I'm not the only one. I've talked to the other people in the. No one knows like they are. I think. I think Cody figure is close with Matt Norlander and Jeff Goodman, which is how those guys know everything.
Shannon
Stories.
Matt Jones
But I. So it's hard to, like, sit here and like, I knew John Calperi, I knew Mark Stoops, I knew Billy Gillespie. I knew what they were. Like, I kind of knew what drove them. I kind of KN what who they. I don't know Mark Pope. I don't really understand him at all. So it's hard for me to know what's going through his mind. So, like, when Mark Stoops would do something stupid, I would understand why. Because I kind of knew Mark Stoops. I don't understand why Mark Pope was rude to Tom Leach.
Shannon
I don't either.
Matt Jones
I don't understand him. You know what I mean?
Shannon
And the fact he can't relate to the fans is just baffling because he's one of us.
Matt Jones
I don't understand it. I really don't. And I. And he wasn't like this last year.
Shannon
No.
Matt Jones
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Mario
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Matt Jones
That's the first time I've ever seen Mario perk up at the music we play. He likes you. Because I guess we probably don't play that much hip hop on this show. And like, as soon as he heard I understood the sign, man. Like he was you. Like he. Like she was. He was happy.
Mario
Like some tape money.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Pay money. Well, Pope said he understood this.
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Mario
We keep hearing it and he's fell in the assignment, though.
Matt Jones
What do you think about that stat? That. So let me. Let me actually, before I. Before I sort of muddy the waters. Who are the five best players on the team in terms of. If you were to put a lineup and say who should be the lineup, what would you say?
Shannon
Jalen Lowe, Ortega away. Cam Williams, Diabate and acquaintance.
Matt Jones
That's who I would say.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
They played one minute together.
Shannon
Insane. At your best squad and you play one minute on the floor together.
Matt Jones
They played one minute together. Those five.
Shannon
That's coaching malpractice.
Matt Jones
That's what we said about Cal two years ago.
Shannon
Yep.
Matt Jones
Played one minute together. That is a failure in decision making. Failure. Now, maybe you put that group and it doesn't work. Who knows? But how do you not tried? I bet you 80% of the listeners to this show would have given those same five people.
Shannon
Yes.
Matt Jones
Right. And they played one minute together.
Shannon
The fact they didn't play Ken Williams Harley at all, just baffling. Coming off the game he had against Bellarmine, you're having trouble scoring and you got him sitting on there on the bench.
Matt Jones
So what do we say about all the family members that are chirping? So Jasper Johnson's uncle, former UK player, has been online quite a bit.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Frustrated. Jaden Quaint's his dad.
Shannon
Yes.
Matt Jones
What do we say about that?
Shannon
Well, you know, social media gives everybody a platform and they're not happy with. Things are going. You know, Jaden Quaint's dad is chirping a lot about coaching moves, coaching decisions, that sort of thing.
Matt Jones
That's not good.
Shannon
That's not good. He's your. He's your stud that just got eligible.
Matt Jones
That's his dad.
Shannon
That's his dad.
Matt Jones
It's also your only top recruit.
Shannon
Yeah. You're one NBA lottery pick.
Matt Jones
Let me know. Two highest ranked recruits that Pope has gotten. Both have family members publicly criticizing the coach. When you're wondering about getting recruits in the future. That's tough.
Shannon
It is tough.
Matt Jones
That's tough. If you're wanting to go get topper players and your two highest profile recruits already have family members complaining about the situation. That's tough.
Shannon
Other family members of other recruits are going to see that.
Matt Jones
Well, they all know each other.
Shannon
Yep.
Matt Jones
The Jasper Johnson things. Interesting. I'm not saying Jasper Johnson should play more. I don't really know. But I will say this. Jasper Johnson is known a lot more than most recruits ranked him because of social media.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And in terms of the recruiting landscape, Jasper Johnson's known by every good player in the country because of his overtime elite and all that. Him not playing matters. I'm not saying you should play him just because of that, but it does matter. Now, a couple little things. First of all, Kentucky women.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
What a win.
Shannon
Had a huge win when you were gone.
Matt Jones
They won yesterday. But then the win Thursday night's the win.
Shannon
That was the win.
Matt Jones
That's the win. Shannon winning on the road on dress like Kim Mulkey. Like everybody's coming in bedazzled with their hair frayed and everybody's like, girl, you look good. And you know what? It didn't matter because Tony Morgan Powell three at the buzzer.
Shannon
Somebody UK told me one of the top UK women's wins in program history.
Matt Jones
I mean, it probably is the top women's win in the regular season.
Shannon
Right. To win on the road at lsu, one of the perennial powers out there dressing like.
Matt Jones
Kipping like he's coming out of a rag and bone ad, walking out there and then still losing.
Mario
Huge win, 15 and one. I mean, it's. Yeah, it's been a heck of a season so far.
Matt Jones
Heck of a year now. They lost the girl last yesterday.
Caller
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Is she. She's like, what, fourth, fifth best player probably.
Shannon
She's definitely. She had 17 points and 16 rebounds the other night against LSU. Yeah, I think it was.
Matt Jones
That's a big loss. I mean, looks like maybe out for the year, right?
Shannon
Dislocated elbow.
Matt Jones
They weren't very deep, so that's a big loss.
Shannon
Hurts.
Matt Jones
But Morgan's been so good, you know.
Shannon
We thought we'd miss Georgia Amore. Morgan's come in and kind of filled those shoes, doing a good job.
Mario
So a dislocated elbow sounds like that would be excruciating.
Matt Jones
Like, you know, how long are you. Are you, like, out for the year?
Shannon
I don't know. Is it her shooting an elbow? I. I don't know.
Matt Jones
Can you put your elbow back?
Mario
I think they can pop it back.
Shannon
It's not.
Matt Jones
They do it with shoulders.
Shannon
Yeah.
Mario
Yeah. I mean, it's not.
Matt Jones
I mean, I don't think she's permanently going to have a dislocated elbow, but.
Shannon
Can she play pop it back in place?
Matt Jones
I don't know. Kenny Brooks. Kenny Brooks did the little Shannon Butthead dance. Did you see where. I don't feel like no one's noticed that, but, I mean, everyone noticed him doing it. But that's what Butthead used to do when he would dance.
Shannon
Yeah.
Mario
He would take his fist and just go underhanded jab.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Shannon
Yeah. You didn't get video of that, Mario. That's what you need to get video of.
Mario
Do you think he makes that noise when he does it? I hope he does.
Matt Jones
I think he made it. Eat it.
Shannon
But when one team is struggling, that team is succeeding tremendously.
Matt Jones
Yes. I do have to note one of the craziest things I've ever seen in sports. You all probably didn't spend a lot of time knowing this last night. A and M women played Georgia women.
Shannon
Okay.
Matt Jones
Probably didn't care, did you?
Shannon
Did not care.
Matt Jones
With 4 minutes and 40 seconds left in the third quarter, A&M women led Georgia women 48 to 31.
Shannon
Right.
Matt Jones
The game went to overtime, so A and M's women were up 17. Game ended up in overtime. Georgia won in overtime. Now let's do a little Math. There was 441 left in the third quarter. Okay, how many minutes were left in the third quarter if they'd been through? 441.
Shannon
441.
Matt Jones
Okay, now add the fourth quarter. How many minutes where they play?
Shannon
10 minutes.
Matt Jones
10 minutes.
Shannon
Okay, so 1441.
Matt Jones
Now, I had five minute overtime. What is it?
Shannon
1941.
Matt Jones
1941. Guess how many field goals Texas A and M's women had in the final. 1941.
Shannon
What is it?
Matt Jones
Zero. No way. They didn't make another shot the rest of the game?
Mario
Entire half.
Matt Jones
They scored. They scored 10 more points, but all on free throws.
Shannon
No.
Matt Jones
Did not score another basket for the rest of the game. They were up 17 with 4:41 left, lost 64:58 in overtime and did not score for 19 minutes and 41 seconds of action.
Shannon
That's going to keep the coach up at night. How in the world we knocked score a field goal in almost 20 minutes.
Matt Jones
That has to be one of the craziest stats I've ever seen.
Shannon
Agreed to go that long. Wow.
Matt Jones
And they were good enough to be up 17.
Shannon
And it was at.
Matt Jones
At A and M. I don't know where it was.
Mario
I mean, that's you talking about just falling apart. You think the game is over and then you can't even score again. Like, all right, we're done.
Matt Jones
I would like to watch how many shots they miss.
Shannon
That's true.
Matt Jones
I mean, it has to be fascinating just to watch them.
Shannon
Even the second half when Kentucky played Georgetown 84, at least we scored a couple buckets.
Matt Jones
None.
Shannon
None.
Matt Jones
Steve. Go ahead, Steve. Steve. I know. Steve. Jude. Go ahead, Jude.
Caller
Hello?
Matt Jones
Yes, sir.
Caller
Can you hear me? What did you think of Nate Oates comments about Kentucky's passing and his press conference last Saturday?
Matt Jones
I thought that's how you use analytics.
Shannon
Yep.
Matt Jones
When Nate Oates gets up and says, we watch game tape and we realized that their assist numbers aren't bad, but when you break it down, most their assists came against bad teams. He said, you would sit there and you would see, oh, 17, assist, oh, 20, assist, oh, 22. They must be pretty good. But then those were against the bad teams. And then he said, but when they played, the good teams didn't have very many assists. And then he broke, that's analytics right there. Like, analytics is not just stirring numbers. It's actually looking at the stats and seeing patterns. And he saw that when we played good teams, our assists go down. He said, we knew they Weren't going to pass. So we would collapse on the guy who drove. And it worked. Most coaches wouldn't, like, give that up, say that they did that. But Ryan, he did. And that's what analytics are supposed to be. That's why Nate Oates is a great coach.
Shannon
You don't think the Missouri coach heard that comment, too? And now he knows how to. Maybe how to play and defend Kentucky Wednesday night.
Matt Jones
The question is, did we know that before Shannon?
Mario
Apparently not.
Matt Jones
Do you think we knew that we had only had seven assists when we throw the ball into the post in 13 games? I don't know if we did or not.
Mario
With all the analytics that Mark Pope know that.
Matt Jones
If Nate Oates knew that, we should have known. And if we know, then I would wonder, Shannon, why have we not corrected?
Mario
Why wouldn't you? It's a great question.
Shannon
Well, maybe Pope did talk about that. He did talk a lot after the game.
Matt Jones
He did not. Isaac. Go ahead, Isaac.
Caller
Hey, fellas. I just wanted to offer my perspective real quick. I don't know if this will help anybody, but it helps me understand kind of Mark Pope's mentality. Of course, I don't know him personally, but for my own job, I know when the pressures, you know, start to rise and I switch locations in my job. The job I'm at now is a lot more high intensity, a lot more sales, a lot more just pressure. And so I know with that comes, you know, different emotions that come out of me. I get a little bit more frustrated, a little bit more angry. So I don't know if that's necessarily where Pope's head is at, but I can personally relate to him in that sense, and I just hope he gets out of the funk. It took me a while to get out of it, but once I did, man, we've been. We've been rolling where I'm at. So hopefully he do the same thing.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I mean, maybe so. I appreciate the call, but, like, he's got to do it, you know, Somebody wrote me. Matt, have you all reached out to. To ask Pope about these issues? I say this honestly, I wouldn't even know who to call. I really wouldn't. I wouldn't even know there. I have more people now that I can talk to in the Will Stein coaching staff that's been here for three weeks than in the entire rest of the athletic department. So I wouldn't even know who to contact. Not that. I mean, I don't think necessarily Mark Pope should come on an interview on KSR in right now, that's probably not the greatest idea, but fans have these questions and, like, he'll have a. Does he have a press conference today?
Shannon
He's got his coaches.
Matt Jones
Yeah, but, I mean, what's that? I love Tom, but, like, he's not. He didn't answer Tom at the last show, so I'm gonna answer him today either.
Shannon
You think they take calls from fans tonight?
Matt Jones
No.
Shannon
No. Bad.
Matt Jones
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Shannon
Yeah, who they play?
Matt Jones
The Utah Mammoth. By the way, did you know they tore the Belmont racetrack just down?
Shannon
I thought they were just remodeling it.
Matt Jones
So they've moved the Islanders arena next to the Belmont racetrack.
Shannon
Okay.
Matt Jones
It's torn down. It's really rebuilding the whole thing. Yeah, like it's crazy. So anyway, I saw that, but while I was there, I don't know if this guy saw that. Shannon almost got in a fight.
Mario
Oh, really?
Shannon
Take your picture.
Matt Jones
No, you almost.
Mario
Okay, I got to hear I had.
Matt Jones
To stand up against racism.
Shannon
Oh, okay.
Matt Jones
All right. So here's the situation seven to mammoth over the Islanders games Basically over. Uncle Matt had splurged a little bit to get tickets. Like the really good ones. Yeah, like right behind the ice.
Shannon
Oh, wow.
Matt Jones
Two minutes, three minutes to go. Games essentially over most of stadiums left. Guy sneaks into the section. Shannon, I'm fine with it. What do I care, right? There's plenty empty seats. No difference to me. But he sneaks in the section. But he does sneak in.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Security guard comes over, tells him he's got to go. Now, if I was a security guard, would I let it go? Maybe. But you know what? It's his job, Shannon, got to tell you.
Mario
Sure.
Matt Jones
Walks up, young guy, nice guy, I think he's hispanic. Comes up, says the guy need you to go back out. Sir, your seats. Not here. This dude, like 55, bald, Long Island. Like, think about what you think of Long Island, Staten Island. That's this guy. Uh huh. He stands up and goes, okay, mom, Donnie, that's the new mayor of New York. He's like, oh, all right, Mandani. Yeah. So you're going to kick all the white people out of stadiums now? Come on, dude. First of all, this dude's Hispanic. He's not even muscle, all right, He's Hispanic. Secondly, don't be a jerk, right? So then he starts saying, oh, I guess this is what happens to us now, Mondani voters. This is what happens. And finally, me and another guy, just a random guy, is like, dude, stop. Get out. At that point, security's coming. They ask him, they escort him out. Shannon.
Mario
Yeah.
Matt Jones
So we. The guy, this guy's next to me when I are like, what is with that dude? And I looked at the security guard, I go, man, I'm sorry. All of a sudden, I look up, Shannon, he's at the top. He comes sprinting down the stairs. Yeah, like, sprinting down the stairs like he wants to fight. He gets to me and he starts yelling. Somebody stops him. Like, somebody stands in between, and he starts yelling at me. Everything. You can think again. Continuing to say, mondotti, who's not, by the way? That's New York city. This isn't even New York city. We're not even in New York City, right? He's yelling. This dude's losing it. And so then I, you know, I chirp back and I'm like, just don't be a racist, dude. Like, why are you yelling at this guy? He's just doing his job. They end up Shannon dragging this man out of the arena with two minutes to go. In a hockey game. His daughter is looking on.
Shannon
Oh, his daughter was mortified.
Matt Jones
Oh.
Shannon
Now it makes it even worse.
Matt Jones
Mortified. He ends up dragging him out with him screaming about Mandani as he's getting taken up the stairs.
Mario
Well, I guess it's a good thing security did it before you had to. Right. Because it would have been way worse if he had to deal with you.
Matt Jones
I would not have fought the man, but I would have. I was ready to say strong language.
Shannon
Well, you had it out while he.
Matt Jones
Was being, like, held down by the officer.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
I tried to make a joke. That didn't hit.
Mario
Didn't land.
Matt Jones
I don't think anybody really. I was like, well, if he was a Mandani voter. Yeah. He would have just let you sneak down. Right?
Shannon
Nobody got that?
Matt Jones
No. It doesn't look like you get it.
Shannon
I get it.
Matt Jones
Well, because, like, he's socialist. Like, everybody gets.
Shannon
Okay.
Matt Jones
Yeah, you didn't get it. That's why it didn't work.
Shannon
That's why it didn't work.
Matt Jones
My audience didn't understand it.
Mario
Shan, I want to get back to, like, the fight that might have happened. Like, what would you have done? Would you have gone, like, a kick to the groin? Would you have backup?
Matt Jones
I had this other guy.
Shannon
The other guy.
Matt Jones
I had the other guy.
Shannon
He's on your side.
Matt Jones
I was gonna give him the old onesie twosie. No, I wasn't gonna fight. I wasn't gonna fight. Shannon, trying to end racism. That's all I was trying to do. I wasn't trying to fight it.
Mario
Sound like you did it.
Matt Jones
I think it's over now.
Mario
Yeah, racism is over. You just solved, like, world peace now.
Matt Jones
I think. I think it occurred. And then as he got dragged off, people clapped.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And then the game ended. The game was over, like, right after that.
Shannon
People don't want to witness that kind of stuff.
Matt Jones
He lost his mind.
Shannon
That's sad.
Matt Jones
And it was.
Shannon
He was in front of his daughter.
Matt Jones
To this random guy who was, like, 5 foot 8, didn't say one negative word. Just said, sir, you can't sit here doing his job. He just was doing his job. Right.
Shannon
Well, good for you for standing up for racism.
Matt Jones
Against.
Shannon
Yeah. Against racism.
Matt Jones
Shannon, not four.
Mario
Did he just say four?
Shannon
I did.
Mario
Oh, my God.
Matt Jones
It was again, against racism. What side do you think I'm on?
Shannon
You're on the right side.
Matt Jones
I'm not four.
Shannon
No, you're not four.
Mario
You're against exactly on the left side.
Matt Jones
Somebody's gonna take that clip. Shannon. Go. Nice job, Matt. Thanks. For standing up for races.
Mario
Don't run for office again.
Matt Jones
See? And this man, literally, when I was thinking about running for Senate was like, we think I could speak. Be your campaign spokesman.
Shannon
No.
Matt Jones
Shannon, no.
Mario
He's not your PR guy. Absolutely not.
Matt Jones
That would have been the worst decision of all time. Well, there you go. Good for you. It's nice to be back.
Shannon
Good to have you.
Matt Jones
Are we going to beat Missouri? It's Wednesday. It's not tomorrow.
Shannon
It's Wednesday.
Matt Jones
Wednesday. Are we going to beat him Wednesday?
Shannon
I thought we would until I saw what we did against Alabama and saw how they beat Florida. Now I'm not so sure.
Matt Jones
We have to win. We'll talk more about this.
Shannon
Both of these home games.
Matt Jones
We cannot. I feel pretty good about us against Mississippi State, but we got to win Wednesday.
Shannon
Have to.
Matt Jones
They beat Florida.
Shannon
Yes, they did. A good Florida team. We got it. We got problems.
Mario
You gonna start the season. That's going to be.
Matt Jones
He's going to say anything good in the press conference or in the coaches show tonight?
Shannon
No, no.
Matt Jones
I'm going to listen. History should tell over under 1.5 calls he takes. I'll go under this Bobby Jamestown cap.
Shannon
He tries but he's not going to get in.
Matt Jones
All right, we'll see. Bob and Jamestown's call in the post game show is why we don't take his call. Did you hear it?
Shannon
I didn't hear it.
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Date: January 5, 2026
Host: Matt Jones & the KSR Crew (Shannon, Mario)
Podcast Theme: Latest news and spirited commentary on University of Kentucky (UK) Sports, with focus on men's and women’s basketball, the closing of a Lexington institution, and Matt Jones’ experience broadcasting the New Orleans Bowl.
This episode blends nostalgia, deep-dive sports analysis, and humorous storytelling. Matt Jones and crew revisit foundational Kentucky experiences—like the closing of Tally Ho—while also critically dissecting the current state of UK men’s basketball and celebrating a historic women’s basketball win. Matt also reflects on broadcasting the New Orleans Bowl for ESPN, touching on nerves, preparation, and behind-the-scenes surprises from the world of live sports commentary.
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[38:19 - 39:43]
| Time | Segment Description | |-------|--------------------| | 03:14 | Show start, rundown of live shows/events | | 04:38 | Tally Ho closing discussion and campus nostalgia | | 08:12 | Matt’s New Orleans Bowl broadcasting story | | 22:35 | Fan call: Kentucky men’s basketball slow starts | | 24:28 | Caller: Concerns about Mark Pope, recruiting, PR | | 29:19 | Lineup decisions and parents vocally criticizing coaching | | 32:00 | Kentucky women’s basketball’s big win and injury | | 34:18 | Texas A&M women’s basketball stat oddity | | 36:42 | Nate Oats’ analytics/planning vs. Kentucky | | 38:19 | Caller draws parallels between job stress and Pope’s psyche | | 43:03 | Matt’s story: Stopping a racist confrontation at an Islanders game | | 49:50 | Predictions: Can UK beat Missouri? Coaches' show expectations |
The episode paints a vivid picture of UK sports culture and the current mood among fans. It highlights nostalgia and tradition, celebrates the challenges and triumphs of live broadcasting, and scrutinizes the present and future of UK basketball under Mark Pope. Through listener calls and candid discussion, the show maintains its signature blend of analysis, storytelling, and humor.
For listeners:
Whether you’re a diehard Cats fan, a UK alum nostalgic for late nights at Tally Ho, or just interested in behind-the-scenes sports commentary, this episode offers engaging stories and honest debate—all in the lively, playful spirit of KSR.