2026-01-13- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

KSR (Kentucky Sports Radio) – January 13, 2026, Hour 2

Host: Matt Jones & the KSR Crew (Shannon, Franklin, with callers)
(Presented by Stockton Mortgage)

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Main Theme:

This episode is a classic "Ask Anything Tuesday," where Matt Jones and the KSR team take calls from listeners on a variety of topics, focusing on Kentucky basketball and football news, roster changes, recruiting drama, and some fun diversions into Golden Globes winners, pop culture commentary, and memorable Kentucky legends. The show mixes lighthearted banter, sports analysis, and playful audience engagement in the typical KSR style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Recap and Listener Reactions to Vince Marrow's Appearance

Timestamp: 02:06–04:02

• The crew reacts to comments about Vince Marrow, a prominent football staffer, appearing earlier on the show.
• Matt emphasizes the uniqueness of having rivals drop in for interviews:
  "It's funny. It is and like you know Vince is. I appreciate him doing it..." (03:15)
• Matt reveals he’s tried to get the current UK staff on for fan introductions but had little luck so far.

Notable Quote

• Matt Jones (speaking about live radio):
  "That's why I love live radio. You don't know what the next thing is that's going to happen and it was good." (03:48)

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2. Golden Globes Review & Generational Pop Culture Disconnect

Timestamp: 04:23–09:57

• The crew attempts to name winners and nominees of the Golden Globes; most named shows and movies are unfamiliar to the team, causing laughter and highlighting generational/pop culture gaps.
• They debate genre classifications (e.g., “The Bear” being labeled as a comedy).
• Matt recommends the reality show "Traitors" to Shannon, noting its appeal for fans of social deduction games.

Notable Quote

• Shannon (on new shows):
  "Bear's a comedy?" (07:31)
• Matt Jones (describing "Traitors"):
  "It's like Survivor, but it's in a castle and they vote people off and they... I think you would like." (08:56)

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3. Jalen Lowe’s Shoulder Surgery & Its Implications for Kentucky Basketball

Timestamp: 10:25–12:40

• Callers discuss the timing and necessity of Jalen Lowe's surgery.
• Matt and Shannon agree it was inevitable due to recurring injuries, and that preserving his eligibility and health is paramount.
• Franklin notes the NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) considerations for college athletes not likely headed to the NBA.

Notable Quotes

• Matt Jones:
  "He just wanted to try to play through it. I think after the third time he heard it he felt like he had to have the surgery." (11:04)
• Shannon:
  "A tough kid to play through that, knowing surgery was coming, still tried to tough it out and give us as much minutes as he could." (12:06)

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4. Basketball Roster: Debating the Ideal “Four” for Mark Pope’s Offense

Timestamp: 12:43–16:17

• Listeners call in to debate which recent or historical Kentucky big men would best fit Coach Pope’s style—specifically a four who can pass and shoot.
• Names floated and discussed: Patrick Patterson, Terrence Jones, Eric Daniels, Derek Willis, Wenyen Gabriel, Kyle Wiltjer.
• The consensus: Patrick Patterson, due to his passing and newfound corner-three ability, would thrive in Pope’s system.

Notable Quotes

• Franklin:
  "Patrick Patterson would be great under Pope's offense. I like that call." (13:25)
• Matt Jones:
  "Patrick Patterson's really good. He would be perfect in this offense." (13:35)

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5. Football Recruiting Drama & Transfer Portal Updates

Timestamp: 13:50–15:51

• Discussion of Kentucky’s pursuit for a top wide receiver and the challenges in the transfer portal.
• Noted players: DJ, Cam Miller, Gilmore, and new additions like the LSU transfer and a local standout from Sayre.
• The team is still missing a proven elite receiver but working on depth.

Notable Insight

• Matt on recruiting:
  "They don't have that elite wide receiver yet. I think that's a fair, fair thing to note." (14:50)

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6. SEC Coaching Rankings, Rival Trolling, and Social Media Spats

Timestamp: 20:16–21:39

• The team discusses an SEC podcaster ("SEC Mike") ranking UK’s new coach Will Stein last in the league—Marrow retweeted it, suggesting rivalry pettiness continues.
• Matt suspects "real bad blood" remains with the new regime.

Memorable Moment

• Franklin:
  "He’s got a guy on there. He’s some Tennessee guy..." (20:54)

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7. College Football National Title Game Parking Prices Outrage

Timestamp: 21:48–23:48

• Hard Rock Stadium parking for the national championship was up to $747, prompting outrage and comic brainstorming about carpooling logistics.
• Matt flatly refuses to pay those prices: "On principle, I'm not paying. I don't like paying the $30 a day at the airport in Cincinnati." (23:19)

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8. Role-Playing a Kentucky Basketball Recruiting Pitch

Timestamp: 23:55–26:38

• In response to a caller’s suggestion, Shannon attempts (and fails hilariously) to roleplay as a Kentucky recruiter convincing a prospect to choose UK over Duke/North Carolina.
• The team jokes that after Shannon’s pitch the player would pick Duke.

Notable Quotes

• Matt Jones:
  "I think you literally have turned him into a Blue Devil." (26:12)

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9. Media Literacy, Fans, and Public Figures

Timestamp: 27:13–32:46

• Responding to criticism for hosting Vince, the crew debates the purpose of sports radio (entertainment), humanizes rival coaches and media figures (Tom Crean, Dan Dakich), and discusses how social media can distort reality.
• Matt shares that people often criticize KSR without listening:
  "There’s this subsection of people on the Internet who love to complain about KSR, who do not listen to the show..." (27:36)

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10. Small-Town Legends & Kentucky Lore

Timestamp: 32:48–34:50

• A caller asks about Muhammad Ali’s roots and recounts the Madisonville “Pigman” legend.
• The team is equal parts amused and baffled, keeping the show’s playful tone.

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11. Additional Basketball Strategy and Player Analysis

Timestamp: 34:54–36:24

• Discussion of potential best past “four” for Coach Pope’s offense continues (Kyle Wiltjer gets a special mention).
• Analysis of player rotations, especially Aberdeen’s role in the absence of key guards, and the benefit of spacing for his performance.

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12. Who Is the Most Famous but Mysterious Celebrity?

Timestamp: 38:55–41:44

• Spurred by a Golden Globes joke, Matt asks: Who is more famous than Leonardo DiCaprio but whose personality and life remain a total mystery?
• Eddie Murphy is floated as a comparable example. The consensus: DiCaprio is perhaps the most famous yet enigmatic celebrity in America.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments with Timestamps

• "That's why I love live radio. You don't know what the next thing is that's going to happen and it was good." – Matt Jones (03:48)
• "Bear's a comedy?" – Shannon (07:31)
• "He's probably not an NBA player. So if he gets two more years of college..." – Matt Jones (12:31)
• "Patrick Patterson's really good. He would be perfect in this offense." – Matt Jones (13:35)
• "On principle, I'm not paying. I don't like paying the $30 a day at the airport in Cincinnati." – Matt Jones (23:19)
• "I think you literally have turned him into a Blue Devil." – Matt Jones (26:12)
• "There’s this subsection of people on the Internet who love to complain about KSR, who do not listen to the show..." – Matt Jones (27:36)
• "He’s probably the most famous person we don’t know anything about." – Matt Jones, on Leonardo DiCaprio (41:45)

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Highlighted Timestamps for Major Segments

• Vince Marrow reactions & recruiting guest segment: 02:06–04:02
• Golden Globes pop culture discussion: 04:23–09:57
• Jalen Lowe injury and impact: 10:25–12:40
• Banter on "ideal UK forwards" for Pope: 12:43–16:17, continued 19:34–20:05
• Football recruiting and portal updates: 13:50–15:51
• SEC coach ranking and rivalry: 20:16–21:39
• $747 college football parking outrage: 21:48–23:48
• Roleplaying the Kentucky recruiting pitch: 23:55–26:38
• Media criticism/celebrity humanity segment: 27:13–32:46
• Listener legends: Pigman and Ali's mom: 32:48–34:50
• Who is most famous but unknown? 38:55–41:44

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Tone and Atmosphere

• Conversational, playful, deeply Kentucky-centric
• Quick-witted jokes, ribbing among co-hosts, and willingness to tackle both heavy sports talk and offbeat local curiosity (Pigman!)
• Listeners/callers are engaged, educate and challenge the hosts, and add to the friendly, communal feel

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For Listeners Who Missed the Show

This KSR hour is a blend of sports analysis, charming banter, audience participation, and slices of Kentucky life—perfectly representing why KSR is beloved radio. If you want takes on Kentucky basketball and football, pop culture confusion (and recommendations), and some Kentucky-flavored storytelling, it’s a can’t-miss hour.

Skip if: You’re looking for in-depth Xs and Os, hard news, or minimal tangents—the fun is in the diverse array of topics and personalities.

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End of Hour 2 summary.

Transcript

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[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. Our number two Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Ask anything Tuesday. I'm going to go to the phones here in a second and give people a chance to ask, you know, anything. Shannon, you were giggling the whole time Vince was on there.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

It's really cool that he came on though I don't think many coaches would do that. Your biggest rival.

[Matt Jones]

I don't either and I, you know, couple most of you have said it was good. Some people complaining I would say oh.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Come on complaining about what?

[Matt Jones]

Get over it. Like I. It's funny. It is and like you know Vince is. I appreciate him doing it and by the way I have asked to have the UK staff on I. My hope was to over the course of the next couple months introduced all the staff to the team. I do or to the fans. I do hope that'll happen but as of yet they've said no, there's nothing you can do about it. I would argue that it is much better to do this and to introduce people than not but everybody's got a different perspective on that. But I actually plus I like giving him a hard time and we called it randomly so I thought it was great.

[Franklin]

Yeah just cold called him and he.

[Matt Jones]

Answered what like some prescheduled so nervous.

[Franklin]

The whole time time Ron just happy to get the heat off of him.

[Shannon]

It's true.

[Matt Jones]

Now I need somebody who knows more about who's in these recruiting. He said they didn't lose anybody to Kentucky. I don't believe that's true but I also did one crap but I also don't want to like I, I didn't want to name individual players. I don't think it's fair to those players. So that's why I was kind of. That's why I didn't. Didn't do it.

[Shannon]

If, if I was UK sitting there I'd call you and have Pete knocked on right now like almost. Okay, we're going to back.

[Matt Jones]

That's what I would do too and but I do think we will get them on eventually. But see you never know what's going to happen on this. That's why I love live radio. You don't know what the next thing is that's going to happen and it was good.

[Shannon]

You were giving him crap. He was giving your eye back to.

[Matt Jones]

You a little bit Joel and already has Kentucky where in the bracketology he.

[Franklin]

Just put it out I believe let me pull back up some. Right. We were at 10 seed if I'm not mistaken. But the bad part is we're down in the. In the bubble section. We're one of the last four buys but we're already. We're bubble talking. We're not even. We're not even up with the other teams.

[Matt Jones]

We should be bubble talking to be honest with you. I mean like our, our resume is a bubble resume at this, at this moment. All right, let's. I do this every year because it's always good to see how much we all know pop culture. The Golden Globes, they were card. Sunday.

[Shannon]

Sunday.

[Matt Jones]

I thought the woman, Nikki Glaser. I thought she was good on the monologue I've always enjoyed.

[Franklin]

I thought that was a big get for her, being a host.

[Matt Jones]

She did a good job, so. I thought she did a really good job. They were funny. All right, I'm gonna give you the winners.

[Shannon]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Best drama. Hamnet.

[Shannon]

Never even heard of it. I have. That's the first time I'm hearing this.

[Matt Jones]

Hamnet is a movie about. I don't know if you knew. When Shakespeare wrote Hamlet, he. During the time he was writing it, his son died, whose name was Hamnet. Oh, and in Gaelic, I guess Hamnet and Hamlet are kind of the same name. Okay, so it's about how the death of his son inspired Hamlet.

[Shannon]

And that was the winner.

[Matt Jones]

That was best drama. Best comedy. One battle after another, which is not a comedy. I don't know. How's that a comedy?

[Franklin]

Not a comedy at all.

[Matt Jones]

Not a comedy at all.

[Franklin]

They do this all the time.

[Matt Jones]

In my opinion. Best movie I've seen this year, maybe the best movie I've seen the last couple years, but not a comedy.

[Shannon]

Never heard of it.

[Matt Jones]

So Leonardo DiCaprio. You've seen the. You've seen the ads for that. He's like. His daughter gets kidnapped and he, like, wants to go save her.

[Franklin]

It is considered one of the best movies.

[Matt Jones]

It's not funny. I agree.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

That's so funny.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know why it's a comedy. I mean, it's got some funny lines.

[Franklin]

Leo's got some moments.

[Matt Jones]

Right. But it's not a comedy. Yeah, but anyway, it won.

[Shannon]

Yeah. Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Best animated motion picture. Did you see K Pop Demon Hunters?

[Shannon]

I didn't, but I'd love to. It sounds wonderful.

[Matt Jones]

No, it's big. It's huge. It's like the biggest thing. Did you not know that?

[Shannon]

No, I did not.

[Franklin]

It was, like, half of the Halloween costumes in my neighborhood.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, everybody was a K pop hunter. You don't keep up with anything.

[Shannon]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Best cinematic achievement. This is the New Warden. They're given for, like, blockbusters. And it was Sinners. Did you ever see that?

[Shannon]

Didn't see it.

[Matt Jones]

It's good. Did you ever see. Did none of you see it?

[Franklin]

I've seen, like, one movie in three years.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Any of these movies are Sinners is.

[Matt Jones]

Really, really, really good. You ought to see it. And then. Let's go. Do you want to go to the television part? Let's see. Best TV drama was the Pit Okay.

[Franklin]

I'm watching the Pit.

[Matt Jones]

You like?

[Franklin]

Season two just started.

[Matt Jones]

Just. Season two just started. I feel like you would like that. Max, it's about a pit. No, it's. It's. It's about an emergency room in Pittsburgh.

[Franklin]

With Noah from ER as the lead.

[Shannon]

I've seen that. I've seen that advertised.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, best comedy, the Studio, which is on Apple tv. It's. I've seen that. Really good.

[Franklin]

I enjoyed that one too.

[Matt Jones]

I thought it was hilarious. Seth Rogen is in it.

[Shannon]

Another strikeout for me.

[Franklin]

It's good.

[Matt Jones]

I'm gonna read you the comedies and drama. Have you even heard of these? Okay, the Diplomat?

[Shannon]

No.

[Matt Jones]

The Pit. You had heard of Pluribus?

[Shannon]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Severance?

[Shannon]

Yes, I've heard of that, but I've not seen it.

[Matt Jones]

Slow Horses? No. White Lotus. You've heard a lot of Apple tv On the list. Abbott elementary.

[Shannon]

I've heard of that.

[Matt Jones]

The Bear.

[Shannon]

Bear's a comedy?

[Matt Jones]

I don't think so. But it's nominated.

[Shannon]

Yeah, I like the Bear, but it's not a comedy.

[Matt Jones]

Hacks?

[Shannon]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Nobody wants this.

[Shannon]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Only Murders in the Building.

[Shannon]

Heard that. That's Steve Martin, right?

[Matt Jones]

In the studio.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So you're not big on any of those?

[Shannon]

No, I've seen. The Bear is the only one I've seen.

[Matt Jones]

All right. And then finally, the best anthology series. How many of these have you heard of Adolescence? Which one? No, that's on Netflix. That's a big one. It's about the guy, 13 year old boy that kills like a classmate.

[Shannon]

Well, it sounds wonderful, but a family moment.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think it's a family show. Okay, all her fault.

[Shannon]

Nope.

[Matt Jones]

The Beast in me?

[Shannon]

Nope.

[Matt Jones]

Black Mirror?

[Shannon]

Nope.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

No, I've heard of that one. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Dying for sex?

[Shannon]

No.

[Matt Jones]

The girlfriend?

[Shannon]

No, none of them.

[Matt Jones]

What do you do all day?

[Shannon]

I don't want to sit around and watch tv.

[Matt Jones]

I don't believe that. What do you do at night?

[Shannon]

Last night we watched the Texans.

[Matt Jones]

Did you hear that? He just started it with we watched.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You watch TV every night? Games.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Yeah, there are games on every night.

[Matt Jones]

What do you do in like April, May, June, July. What do you watch then?

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Baseball.

[Matt Jones]

So do you watch sports? Like every single night?

[Shannon]

I watch it ahead of something else. I did watch Stranger Things. I'm down in the last episode.

[Franklin]

Okay, let's just hip on that trend.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

All right. I do have a show that I enjoy, I think you would like.

[Shannon]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

It's called Traitors.

[Shannon]

All right.

[Matt Jones]

It's like a reality show where you're just Supposed to pick out the traitor. I think you would like it. I think it's really good. You're good when you. It's like Survivor, but it's in a castle and they vote people off and they. I think you would like.

[Franklin]

Did you watch the Mole back in the day where they're trying to find the mole? It's kind of like that.

[Shannon]

The Trader you're good about. When you refer a show to me, say you'll like this. Like the James Garfield show. You know, there's a.

[Matt Jones]

Did you enjoy that?

[Shannon]

I really like that.

[Matt Jones]

That was really good. Like Traders, I think it's the kind. It's just campy enough and you could figure out, like, what would I do if I was Ryan Lemon on there?

[Shannon]

Okay, Traders.

[Matt Jones]

There's a new season starting now. I'm still on the first one. I'm just picking it up, but I think you.

[Shannon]

What platforms it on.

[Matt Jones]

Peacock. Peacock.

[Franklin]

Donna Kelsey's on the new one.

[Matt Jones]

Spoiler alert.

[Franklin]

I know you're excited to see that.

[Shannon]

Who's Donna Kelsey?

[Franklin]

We gotta get you up on Travis.

[Matt Jones]

Kelsey's mom.

[Shannon]

Oh, okay.

[Matt Jones]

She's.

[Shannon]

She's on the show.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Franklin]

They get celebrities. A lot of celebrities.

[Shannon]

Gotcha.

[Matt Jones]

I just think you would like it.

[Shannon]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

No, I just feel like it's the kind of thing you would enjoy, so.

[Shannon]

You'Ve been good at. When you refer a show to me that I like.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Succession.

[Matt Jones]

You're keeping up with all the trends.

[Franklin]

I don't believe you just watch sports. Does yoga gal just watch sports?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. No, she watches, like, you all got to have a trash tv. There's no way she sits and watches you watch basketball every night.

[Shannon]

She would prefer to watch it more than me sometimes. Interesting.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I wouldn't have thought that. Andrew. Go ahead, Andrew.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my call. So two things. One about basketball, one about football. The one about basketball is. I kind of saw the Jalen Lowe surgery coming. I said something to the text machine after the St. John's game, but I was an assistant to my high school's athletic trainer my senior year of high school after I got my EMT license. And one of our seniors sustained a similar injury where his shoulder popped out of socket. And this one was worse than Jalen Lowe's.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, I think everybody thought this was a possibility. I. I mean, I. I know you. I'm sure you said they were a lot of people that thought it would happen. He just wanted to try to. To play through it. I think after the third time he heard it he felt like he had to have the surgery.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Well, what I was going to say is I think if he just took a few games off, you know, despite everybody not wanting him to, I think he would have not needed the surgery. Because. Because the guy that I'm talking about, he delayed his wrist surgery, kept getting delayed. And even his baseball season, after the football season ended, he got injured in our exhibition games.

[Matt Jones]

But everything I've heard, and I appreciate the call, is he was going to have to have the surgery anyway. And, you know, the fact that he played what, five or six games and got hurt three times suggests to me it was going to keep happening. And if he played one more game, he would he lose his red shirt. So, Ryan, I think it makes complete sense he would do it.

[Shannon]

Yeah. Like we said earlier, man, a tough kid to play through that, knowing surgery was coming, still tried to tough it out and give us as much minutes as he could. But now's the time. I mean, it happened again. And you play one more game, you lose your. Usually your eligibility. Get it done for the kid. We'll miss him, but you got to get it done.

[Franklin]

And nobody likes to look at it this way, but that's probably not a guy we're going to be watching the NBA. And if he can double dip on nil, he's got to look out for his. His own situation.

[Matt Jones]

That's an important part too. This is. He's probably not an NBA player. So if he gets two more years of college, I.

[Franklin]

Why he would do more money than he'll ever make.

[Matt Jones]

Isaac. Go ahead. Isaac.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Hey, guys. So I know with all the news around Jalen Lowe, it's a sad time around the basketball team, but I feel like we have success when we run our offense through the four like Pope has done in past or through a big man. So I was curious for you all if you could bring back a four from recent years or just any past team, who would you bring back to run this offense? You if save our season?

[Matt Jones]

Amari Williams. But if I don't get Amari Williams. I appreciate the call. Who is a four that could step out and shoot, but also could kind of pass. Who's our best passing big that we've had besides Amari Williams?

[Shannon]

Well, I was going to say Patrick Patterson.

[Matt Jones]

That's a good one.

[Franklin]

He came to mind for me.

[Matt Jones]

Really good one. Actually. Patrick Patterson would be great under Pope's offense. I like that call.

[Franklin]

And he added the corner three in the NBA. But if we could include the corner three that he got so good at he'd be perfect.

[Matt Jones]

I think that's a great pick. Patrick Patterson's really good. He would be perfect in this offense.

[Shannon]

100%.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. 859-280-2287 I was going to go to Amy but Amy's not there so let's go to Dennis. Go ahead, Dennis.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

We're doing some great recruiting. Wilson is the best receiver positions whining yes.

[Matt Jones]

So has that kid committed yet to Colorado?

[Franklin]

It's was RPM in that way. Let me see if he's actually yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So from what I understand and I appreciate the call they were still trying to get the more kid from Texas. Did he come in a lot A.

[Franklin]

Lot of picks for that but I.

[Matt Jones]

Don'T think it's official yet and basically yesterday he told UK I still need more time and I think they kind of decided to do what they did with Sam Levitt where they said look, if you decide you want to come let us know but we got to look at other options. And I'm told they have one sort of elite option but they don't want to release the name because they don't want other schools to know who they're looking at. And then they've added remember they got the kid from LSU that, that, that that came over and I think they're going to add a few more others but I think it's fair to say they don't have that elite wide receiver yet. I think that's a fair, fair thing to note.

[Shannon]

And what the Cam was Cam Miller, the one who resigned. They lost one Miller but they kept DJ. They kept DJ Lost Cam hardly.

[Matt Jones]

Gilmore went to Baylor. Cam went to Ole Miss. So he kept D.J. and then they've brought in three or four other guys.

[Franklin]

Did you see the ad this morning Ryan? You know him, Brock coming home. He's a depth piece that's electioning kid that UK didn't consider.

[Matt Jones]

Where was he before Louisville?

[Franklin]

Yeah, just one year at Louisville but he comes from a Kentucky family. Ryan. I know his dad didn't like seeing them have read for a year but he committed this morning. He's more of a depth piece not by any means more or something like that but they need that in the receiver room.

[Shannon]

Yeah played it sare won the state title at Sare kind of had a great state championship game spent last year at Louisville and got on the field so he got on the field against us like turning a punt one time so kid can play. So that's a good little It's Sayer.

[Franklin]

But he had video game numbers at say, or his senior year to one of the top kids in state.

[Matt Jones]

What about Eric Daniels?

[Shannon]

That's a good one.

[Matt Jones]

Not a great shooter, but in terms of the passer and kind of the way that Amari played, I would take.

[Franklin]

Patrick Patterson actually came to mind, too, even though I didn't say it. But right behind that, I had Terrence Jones. Not great shooter, but I would love to have him on this team.

[Matt Jones]

No Terrence Jones? Well, I mean, Terrence Jones would be great. I don't know. I don't consider Terrence a great passer, but.

[Franklin]

But he could go get a bucket.

[Matt Jones]

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[Spencer Graves]

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[Hunter (guest on hunting podcast)]

I like the idea of like, hey, put me on a big deer. You know, hey, there's a big deer out here. He's doing this. Be looking for this deer. But I also love doing it on my own. I love going out there and saying, running My cameras. I love patterning the deer. I like showing up at the right time, checking the wind, knowing what stand I need to be in. And then whenever it all comes together and it happens, that's the most satisfying thing ever. So when you do it on your own, it's like, I then can and hang my hat. But if I had somebody say, hey, pull up on these dots and catch them right here and you're going to win. And then when I go in, it's like, yeah, it's cool. I won the tournament. The ultimate goal is done. But it's like, dude, when you find them and you make them bite, that's the puzzle.

[Shannon]

I love it.

[Spencer Graves]

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[Matt Jones]

To get lucky. Little T. Jones about to teach you about Kentucky. I love it. It's a great song.

[Shannon]

It's not good.

[Matt Jones]

Shannon's favorite song. It is not good national play. We were using this on a segment on ESPN Radio recently. Yeah. When I would do facts about Kentucky, they would play this as the intro and they had a little thing where it goes. The real M. Jones about to teach you about Kentucky.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

That's 14 years ago. This thing's got legs. It's still crawling.

[Matt Jones]

It's still. It's crawling. You hate it. But it's. It stood the test. That's true.

[Franklin]

That's true.

[Matt Jones]

Derek Willis, I like that one. Is a four. Do great under. He would be. Derek Willis would be a great player for Mark Pope.

[Shannon]

Definitely fits in that stretch for sitting a corner all day and just bombing all day.

[Matt Jones]

But also athletic. Yeah, Derek was a lot more athletic than he got credit for.

[Franklin]

I also thought of him and one that probably doesn't come to everyone's mind, but winning. Gabriel, didn't he hit like seven threes in a game? Yeah, he did most of them from the corner. Go in there and rebound a little bit.

[Shannon]

I felt like Andrew Carp, he hadn't got hurt last year. Could have been that guy.

[Matt Jones]

No, he. Well, he was for a little. I think you look. We were kind of. We were better depending on how he did it. Now, Josh Pate. That's his name, right?

[Franklin]

Josh Paid State.

[Matt Jones]

He has. He has a show. I remember Max really liked it. Paid State or whatever he put out. Will Stein is going to be. Is going to have Kentucky in the playoff in the next two years. It knee. That's good.

[Shannon]

Oh, that's very good praise.

[Franklin]

As you said. He's a big voice on the national.

[Matt Jones]

He'S become, he keeps growing in a voice. But how about this one? So somebody named SEC Mike. I think that dude, like, loves to kind of troll Kentucky.

[Franklin]

He's. We've met a few times. Roush goes on his show. They're. They're all sec. They have a Tennessee lean, especially. He's got a guy on there.

[Matt Jones]

He's some Tennessee guy. So he ranked the SEC head coaches in football. He has Will Stein last 16th out of 16. Now, that's one thing. So he puts out this tweet, and guess who retweeted it just minutes ago. Who? Vince Mayer.

[Shannon]

I was going to say that. I was going to say that there's.

[Franklin]

Nothing to do with you.

[Matt Jones]

My goodness.

[Franklin]

Well, even when he did his hello, Nick Rouse tweet, it was a reply to something that had nothing to do with the game. Like, he sought out Nick and just typed it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think that's going to. There's got to be real bad blood there. Like, it's not like he was joking with us, but it's clear there's real bad blood between that.

[Shannon]

I believe Vince when he says the old staff, he was still very close with him and will always be close with him. But like this new staff, he admitted, you know, he didn't even know Will Sny. He didn't know these guys. So he's going to come after us.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. Guess how much, Shannon, it costs to park at the national title game.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Oh, God.

[Matt Jones]

This is in the official parking lot.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

At Miami's Hard Rock Stadium. Bucks.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I've already told these guys. What if I told you that right now a parking pass in the Hard rock Stadium is 747, I would say.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

I'll watch it at home. No, thanks.

[Matt Jones]

I'll. I'll Uber there a half down the road at private establishments that have parking, they are selling their parking for $200.

[Shannon]

$200 to park and then walk a half a mile.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

I don't care where it is, it better be the gates of heaven. And I'm parking my car in front of for seven.

[Matt Jones]

What would you do, though? Like, let's say your team in it and the parking was like that. And let's just say you couldn't take an Uber. Would you just walk from as far as you could? Would you take a bus?

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Well, if it's within 50 miles, I can do it. Anything outside of that, I don't think I could. But yeah.

[Matt Jones]

$747.

[Shannon]

You know, if. If it's Kentucky and we're all in a big Palmer Ford Bronco. We're all chip in 50 bucks.

[Matt Jones]

We're still not getting to 747. Let's see. We're going to need to have 15 people in the car.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Everybody's got to pay $100.

[Shannon]

100 bucks a piece for each of us.

[Matt Jones]

Well, we still need eight.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Well, I mean, we throw in Billy.

[Matt Jones]

And Mario, we got, yeah, six. We would do it. Two people on the street.

[Shannon]

We would do it.

[Matt Jones]

I would not do it. I just. On principle, I'm not paying. I don't like paying the $30 a day at the airport in Cincinnati.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Dude. In Colorado, when we paid for that parking garage, that was free.

[Matt Jones]

The next one, I'm still mad at Drew.

[Shannon]

That was the first.

[Matt Jones]

I'm still mad. That was like $50 to park in Vail, and then one right next was free. And the one right next door was free. Drew was like, trust me. This is the one right here. It's like $50. You sure this is the one? Oh, God.

[Franklin]

It said free. We're supposed to go right. We went left to drop the ball there.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, sure. Kentucky gas man. Go ahead.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Hey, guys. What's going on?

[Matt Jones]

What's up?

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

So, well, tell them. I, you know, since this is a ask anything day, I. I had an idea for a couple segments or a whole show, whatever you think. Some of my favorite shows y' all have done is, like, when you do role playing. I just think it's hilarious when you all do that. So, you know, in the spirit of talking about recruiting, like, we have been everything. We got so many great recruiters in big blue nation. You know, the hard time that they've given Mark Stoops over time or. Or, you know, the hard time they've been given to Mark Pope. So I would like to hear, like, people call in and give their recruitment speech to you.

[Matt Jones]

Well, let's not. You are like the call in. Let's just try. Mr. Limit. I appreciate the call. Ryan, let's say you had the job of being. Let's just assume the money is equal between Kentucky and another school. I want you. Don't try to be funny. Just what would be your recruiting pitch to a kid to pick Kentucky, let's say, over Duke and North Carolina.

[Shannon]

So we're doing basketball.

[Matt Jones]

Basketball.

[Shannon]

When it comes to college basketball, there is Kentucky, and then there's a big drop off to everybody else. And we want you to be a part of this something special. We've got you at the top of our recruiting board right now. You're the guy we want to help build around and in.

[Matt Jones]

But they want me at Duke. And in the last decade, or at least since I've been alive, can. Duke's been better than Kentucky.

[Shannon]

That. Those days are over. Those days are over, and we're coming, and we need you to be a part of it.

[Matt Jones]

10 and 6.

[Shannon]

The. We've had injuries. The injuries kind of hurt us this year, so we're going to get past that, but we need you. You're the one that's going to help us get past that.

[Matt Jones]

15 and 1.

[Shannon]

Yeah, but you go to Duke, you're not going to get the minutes. You're going to get here because we.

[Matt Jones]

I'm the best player in the country.

[Shannon]

Yeah, but you're still going to. You have to share minutes because they're going to. They're going to fail this year. We're going to succeed. So we need you to be a part of this. We're. Like I said, you're at the top of our board. Nobody else is. We're going after you again. What? We have bourbon. We have horses.

[Matt Jones]

I'm under 21.

[Franklin]

I'm 17 years old.

[Matt Jones]

Shannon. We have no, I don't know. Christmas lights at the horse park.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

I have to say it, but I think I'd go to Duke after this one.

[Franklin]

I think we just lost a player.

[Matt Jones]

I think you literally. I think you literally have turned him in to a Blue Devil.

[Shannon]

Obviously, I didn't do a very good job, but I've heard Vince's speech.

[Matt Jones]

But that's football.

[Shannon]

Vince is the best at that.

[Franklin]

No, he's not. Pick noctis.

[Matt Jones]

What are you talking about?

[Shannon]

Yeah, Pete knocked is the best team.

[Matt Jones]

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[Shannon]

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[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. Text machine. 772-774-5254. One person writes. Matt, you guys are getting blasted by people on Twitter for having Vince on. Care to comment? Yeah. Then they're wrong. I mean, they don't understand the point of radio. Point of radio is to entertain. That was entertaining, but probably most of the people complaining didn't even listen to it. They're just people on the Internet. There's this subsection of people on the Internet who love to complain about ksr, who do not listen to the show, which took me a while to learn. But if you're complaining about a show you don't listen to, like, it happened a lot during the Cal Perry era. People be like, all you do is blast caliper. I go, do you listen to show? No. Well, then how do you know?

[Franklin]

I'd be like Ryan reviewing the Golden Globes. He didn't.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Franklin]

Listen or watch any of them.

[Matt Jones]

Hey, Ryan, how good is Hamnet? Don't know. You didn't see it.

[Shannon]

That a breakfast food.

[Matt Jones]

It is. You get it at Waffle House.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

The other thing about this is too, Vince is still our friend. You could still have a friend that goes to a rival.

[Matt Jones]

Every single person listening, I mean, has a friend who is like a Louisville fan or a Tennessee fan. Like, everybody. And then they get mad if you do, like, parent gets that all the time from Louisville people. How can you be friends with Matt Jones? And he's like, there's literally a Kentucky friend sitting next to you. Like, like, you're literally. You're married to a Kentucky. You know, But. But it's because they don't see people in the public eye as real human beings. So, you know, I. But of course, with that said, though, I brought. Brought it back because I thought it would be funny and it was fun and I, like, listen, it was interesting hearing him kind of on the receiving end of trash talk because he's not used to it because he's always the one that gives.

[Shannon]

You know, if you didn't hear that part, you think we just had to Vince on to brag on him and praise him. You didn't hear him.

[Matt Jones]

One of the things that's taken me a long time to learn since I've been doing this is that people in the public eye are human beings. Let me give you an example. You know, who has been. Who has asked me about how my dad is doing more than any person, literally any person on earth?

[Shannon]

Who's that?

[Matt Jones]

Tom Crane.

[Shannon]

Tom Cream.

[Matt Jones]

Tom Crane texts me every few days and ask me how Larry is doing or sends a Bible verse or sends. Like, it's one of the kindest things I've ever seen. I barely know him. I've done two ESPN bracket shows with him. I'll probably do another this year. But otherwise, I don't really know him. And yet. And he doesn't just ask and go, how's he doing? He then, like, follows up and talks Tom Crean. I'm just saying, like, I would have never thought that about Tom Crean. I didn't think he was a bad guy. I just didn't really know him. And he did. As crappy as Dan Dockage can be, publicly sent me an amazingly nice note.

[Shannon]

That's awesome.

[Matt Jones]

Like, you. Like, these people are actual human beings, and I think sometimes it's easy to forget that.

[Shannon]

It's very easy to forget that you've done the.

[Matt Jones]

So Vince is the same way if you saw him out in public. By the way, I. There's a. There's a writer I really like. His name is George Saunders. He's one of my favorite authors. He's got a new book coming out in a couple weeks. He did a podcast. I listened to him, and when he was talking Ryan, he sounded like something I would say. He goes, you know, over the years, I've gotten, like, these angry emails. And he goes, I have this weird habit where, for whatever reason, those are the people I write back. And I was like, shannon, I know that. Yep, yep, I like that, too.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

That is you.

[Matt Jones]

And he said, but I've learned almost unfailingly, if I write someone back and say, hey, man, why'd you say that? Not being. Arguing. Just like, why'd you say that? They inevitably apologize or say, hey, you know, I didn't mean.

[Franklin]

I'm having a bad day. I'm taking out on you.

[Matt Jones]

It's like. It's like somebody told me years ago, if you're mean on the Internet, chances are things aren't going well for you. Like, you. You were telling me today. Tell everybody what you told me this morning about. About your. Your. Your future child, about you. You said you. Something happened last night that hadn't happened before.

[Franklin]

Oh.

[Matt Jones]

It feels unrelated to this, but I'm saying this is.

[Franklin]

I'm at a point where I can, like, feel a baby. Like, what you're talking about, like, the kicking and like, I can, you know, actually feel that there's a real baby in my wife's stomach, which is pretty cool.

[Matt Jones]

It was so cool to see you this morning. I've never had a baby, but you came in, like, beaming about the fact that for the first time, you felt like your baby. This is Franklin doing shots in the bar.

[Franklin]

And, yeah, I was shopping for strollers in Miami last week, and you. Miami, I'm sure. Stroller shop.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I just like it's your person, and I think sometimes people forget that. So Vince is a person, and I actually still find him entertaining, even when he does dumb things.

[Shannon]

Well, you've become really good at that. When people say something kind of mean and hateful or Personal. You just.

[Matt Jones]

There's never private message.

[Shannon]

Not in public. Privately.

[Matt Jones]

Like when I watch people be. I'm not gonna mention people in politics, but the meaner somebody is in politics, the more I'm sure they're having them. They're miserable in their personal. Yeah, right. Because why would you be mean if otherwise.

[Franklin]

And that's their escape. Because there's not really consequences.

[Matt Jones]

Like there's no consequences.

[Franklin]

I'm going to take my anger out on whatever's on this.

[Matt Jones]

Consequences on the Internet. Right.

[Shannon]

And that's why I think it's cool you do it in a private message. You don't do it. Retweet them or something.

[Matt Jones]

When parent and I went out Friday night in Louisville, Shannon, the entire U of L athletic department was where we are. And almost all of them came by privately. Was like, you do kind of entertain us.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Yeah. Well, that's the difference between reality and social media. Social media is not reality. It's just not.

[Matt Jones]

Tim. Go ahead, Tim.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Hey, Matt. Trying to change the subject a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

Go for it.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

A couple. Couple of things about Madisonville. I know. I have a new stamp about Muhammad Ali coming out. Posture stamp.

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

And Muhammad Ali's mom is from Madisonville.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, really? Okay.

[Franklin]

I had no idea.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

And. And this is for Drew. I don't know. Part of Hopkins County Drew grew up in. I grew up, like the South Carolina, like the early. Down that way.

[Franklin]

Yeah.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Okay. Well, I grew up Brentwood, if that tells you anything.

[Franklin]

Oh, big money.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Yeah. Yeah, big money. But we had. We had a big man legend down there towards the south end of county. I don't know if you ever heard of it.

[Matt Jones]

What do you mean? What do you mean, a pig?

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

A pig man? Well, I've never actually seen him.

[Matt Jones]

Theory of the pigment. There's a man who looks like a pig.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Oh, yeah. Well, yes. Yes, sir. He grew up in coal mines or something back towards White City, down towards a truck stop. I don't know what I'm talking about.

[Franklin]

I do.

[Matt Jones]

Like, this is a real person. What do you mean by pigment?

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Pigment? Well, it's just like kind of like a bigfoot, but he's. And I remember driving through Arlington when I was a kid one time. And so you ran into a pig man.

[Matt Jones]

You ran into a pig man?

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

No, sir. I'm not personally myself. It was just a legend of pig man. Okay, like bigfoot. But we were driving through Arlington, coming back to the bootleggers, and there's a police car, and. And someone had turned over a Volkswagen. And I asked my Mom. What happened? She said pig man did it.

[Matt Jones]

All right, well, I appreciate the call. Who knew that there were pig men? Explains a lot, though, about you.

[Franklin]

It does. I had to Google. I had no idea. Muhammad Ali's mom's from Madisonville.

[Shannon]

Is she?

[Franklin]

Never heard that one.

[Matt Jones]

Madisonville.

[Franklin]

We should probably promote that a little bit. Pigman, not so much. But those were two interesting facts.

[Matt Jones]

That is interesting, Mike. Go ahead, Mike.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Hey, guys. How are y' all today? I just wanted to. I had two tonight points on the basketball one. Following up on what y' all were talking about earlier. I think y' all forgot the perfect one. It ain't no big deal, but I just thought Kyle Wilford would be the perfect forward.

[Matt Jones]

He'd be good. He'd be good. No, he. He would be good under Pope. I think you're right. That's a good call, too.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

But I thought another thing. I thought it was no coincidence that Aberdeen had his best game as a wildcat with Mo Di bottel. It's like 13 minutes.

[Matt Jones]

I totally agree with you, knocking Mo.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

I'm not knocking over. He just doesn't really fit this. And congratulations to Drew. And I'm telling you, he's going to have a lot of. A lot of moments. My daughter's 19 now, and that first time when you're in that room and they hand her to you, even a big man will cry. I promise you.

[Matt Jones]

That's awesome. I'm ready for it. Totally agree with you about. About Mo. I think Aberdeen maybe more than any other player will be helped Ryan by the ability to get lanes to the basket. So he's not just out there trying to beat people off the dribble.

[Shannon]

I think Aberdeen's been playing better, shooting the ball better because he's been off the ball. Now they have to put him back at the point. And I worry about that because when he's been that point, he's not been the greatest.

[Matt Jones]

Good. Yeah. I don't know. You may end up with a situation where, like, always bringing it up. Yeah, you may. I mean, you may have to, because you got to get ball up the court.

[Franklin]

On Saturday in the first half, Aberdeen air balled another three, and I couldn't believe it. But to his credit, I think in the second half, he went at least two for two, maybe three for three. But that airball, it's got to be a record for a single player in a year.

[Matt Jones]

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[Spencer Graves]

Lines and tines with Spencer Graves on the iHeartRadio app is a podcast designed for hunters and fishermen to enjoy success.

[Hunter (guest on hunting podcast)]

I like the idea of like, hey, put me on a big deer. You know, hey, there's a big deer out here. He's doing this.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Be looking for this deer.

[Hunter (guest on hunting podcast)]

But I also love doing it on my own. I love going out there and saying, running my cameras. I love patterning the deer. I like showing up at the right time, checking the wind, knowing what stand.

[Matt Jones]

I need to be in.

[Hunter (guest on hunting podcast)]

And then whenever it all comes together and it happens, that's the most sad, satisfying thing ever. So when you do it on your own, it's like, I then can hang my hat. But if I had somebody say, hey, pull up on these dots and catch them right here and you're gonna win. And then when I go in, it's like, yeah, it's cool. I won the tournament. The ultimate goal is done. But it's like, dude, when you find them and you make them bite, that's the puzzle.

[Shannon]

I love it.

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. The text machine is 772-774-5254. Good day on the text machine. A lot of good comments have come in. One person writes, matt, you were talking about the Golden Globes. Nikki Glaser said that Leonardo DiCaprio was very famous, but people didn't know anything about him. Who do you think is the most famous person in America that people don't know much about? Yeah, she was saying the only thing we ever know about him, Shannon, is that he dates like 22 year olds.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

Which is kind of true, though, about Leonardo DiCaprio. He's very famous. But tell me something about his personality. Like, besides him dating models, do we know anything about him really?

[Shannon]

Yeah, because he doesn't go on like talk shows and.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean, we don't know what he's like as a person or even what he thinks.

[Franklin]

The only thing I see on, like social media is he's got a black hat pulled over his eyes, like hiding from.

[Matt Jones]

So that's a good question. So use him as the base. Is there anyone more famous than him, Shannon, that we don't know anything about? Because most famous people now, they're like overexposed and you know everything about.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's somebody. We sit here and thought long enough, but we don't have time to do that.

[Matt Jones]

I can think of one that, like, I can't. I don't really know much about Eddie Murphy. You know what I mean?

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Like, I feel like he's very, very famous, but like he never. You never seem anywhere.

[Franklin]

They have a podcast he's been on.

[Matt Jones]

He doesn't do interviews.

[Shannon]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

He just occasionally shows up and does a movie.

[Shannon]

Because most of these celebrities, they want to go on these talk shows to kind of expose their.

[Matt Jones]

Who else?

[Franklin]

Yeah, they got to promote stuff like.

[Matt Jones]

Anybody else you can think of that, like, is really famous, but you just don't know Shannon the dude. Well, no, I mean, people on the show, he's the one that people know the league. But I mean, he's not quite as famous. Leonardo.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

No, I'm close. I mean, pretty much.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. I just think that's an interesting thing. Like who? I feel like you know something about almost everyone, but he is. He is maybe the biggest movie star. And I don't know anything about him except occasionally shows up on a yacht.

[Franklin]

Yeah. Just naturally to be a celebrity, you need to be in the conversation. So, like.

[Matt Jones]

So you almost have to be old because you almost have to become a celebrity before you needed to be on social media and all that stuff. You almost have to be old for this. Yes, because younger people, I just don't think they.

[Shannon]

They grew up on social.

[Matt Jones]

Up with everything out there. So, like musicians, like, what about musicians? Is there a music like. Like back in the day, Prince was mysterious.

[Shannon]

Very mysterious. Unless you're Myron, then you could go to his house for a party.

[Matt Jones]

Yes, Myron did do that. But besides Prince, I mean, there just aren't. I don't know, maybe somebody will have a text. But it's a good question.

[Shannon]

It is a good question.

[Matt Jones]

Might be Leonardo DiCaprio, the most famous person we don't know anything about.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Let's go to Peggy. How are you, Peggy?

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Hey, good morning, guys. Couple things. Can you give us more updates on Larry? And I am kind of mad because people are giving Jalen Low down the road because he's having surgery now. My concern is the kids help. Yeah, I don't.

[Matt Jones]

I haven't really seen Peggy, people giving him the. Down the road. I think people for the most part kind of understand. I mean, I didn't. I haven't seen a lot of criticism of him doing it.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Well, on social media, there's people giving him down the road, but my concern is the kids help.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, on social media, I think anybody can get criticized. I agree. I. I think it makes. For me, it makes perfect sense. And I agree. His health is the most important thing. And as far as Larry's doing okay, I'm just. Because I think, you know, he's. He's kind of a private person. I'm not like giving regular sort of updates just for his own privacy. But. But I do. He is doing. He's doing okay. And I appreciate you asking, so thank you very much, Jim.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

He's in my prayers every day.

[Matt Jones]

All right, we appreciate Jim. Go ahead, Jim.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Hey, how are you doing? I was just wondering if as much sports as you guys watch and listen to, and especially Matt, now that you started doing play by play and you've listened to a lot of play by play, if throughout your everyday lives, you have a voice in your head, like calling what you're doing?

[Matt Jones]

No, not exactly. But, you know, there's a. There's a quote that says everybody is the star of their own movie in their mind. And I think there is some truth that. I appreciate the call. Like everybody kind of thinks. I think everybody thinks that, like the world is following everything they do. Yeah, but really people only care about what they're doing themselves. Right. Do you know what I mean by that?

[Franklin]

You know, some people get in their own head. I actually remind myself, nobody cares.

[Matt Jones]

Nobody cares.

[Franklin]

Everyone has their own life that they're living. No one is thinking about whatever goof or whatever I've done. No one is thinking about it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think people sort of think that they are the centerpiece of other people's thoughts. I think social media makes you think that too, because people can comment on your day, but like in general, you could go through your days and probably you're not in anyone's mind.

[Franklin]

Not for more than a few.

[Matt Jones]

Not for more than a few seconds because they're all worried about them, what they're doing. They got their own anxiety going. What are people thinking about this?

[Shannon]

That's one reason I don't like Facebook, because they put all this long paragraph about something they feel about. It's important in their life.

[Matt Jones]

Are you. Are you. I can't remember. Are you on Facebook?

[Shannon]

I'm on it.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think. Do you follow me? Are we friends?

[Franklin]

It took him a while to get on. It's only been a few years, right?

[Shannon]

Yeah, it's only been a few years.

[Matt Jones]

Mark, Go ahead, Mark.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

Yes, Matt. I apologize. I didn't listen to the Mark Pope show and I didn't listen to you guys earlier today. But I want to make a comment about the defense change that I noticed and it's probably been brought up. But the way we started against Missouri, how the. Both Marino and Garrison started trying to come out on the post player setting up at the top of the key to prevent the three. They did a very good job, I thought, against the last team. Who was it we played?

[Matt Jones]

Mississippi State. Mississippi State.

[Caller or Listener (various callers)]

They did a great job. They did a great job. And I think it's a great thing to build on all the good teams out there. You see Connecticut, all of them, even. I think St. John's and Patino used to do it. You take away the three and make them make a hard two.

[Matt Jones]

Totally agree. And that had not been our. I appreciate call. That had not been the way we were playing. And now I think that needs to be. And you're right, they have done it more in the last two games. All right. It's DraftKings promo code. KSR bet five win $300 on DraftKings. I guess I'll pick tonight. Virginia and Louisville. Mikhail Brown out again. There's rumors online, by the way, not sure that he's going to come back. We'll see. I have no knowledge. I have no idea. But those rumors exist. Louisville's a three and a half point favorite at home. Ugo comes back to Kentucky to play against Louisville.

[Shannon]

Oh, my goodness. That's right.

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Shannon]

Forgot he was even playing for Virginia.

[Matt Jones]

Ugo vs. Louisville Louis, three and a half point favorite. What do you got?

[Shannon]

I still think Louisville's good even without Mikhail Brown. And so at home, I would take Louisville.

[Franklin]

Virginia's only got like two losses this year and they have Ugo. So I'm absolutely taking the Cavaliers here.

[Matt Jones]

Taking the cat.

[Franklin]

Louisville's without their best player. There'll probably be 34 people there, maybe 35 if the weather's good. Taking Virginia.

[Matt Jones]

All right, Shannon.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Yeah, yeah. Louisville wins at home, I think, tonight. Give me the three and a half.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I'm going to take Louisville to cover that three and a half. But, you know, this is a big point.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Parents over here saying no parent doesn't even believe.

[Matt Jones]

Get on real quick.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

Are they going to win or not?

[Franklin]

Louisville tonight, Virginia's top five in field goal percentage defense. Louisville is out without Ryan Conwell, and they're also without Ryan.

[Matt Jones]

Conwell's not playing either.

[Franklin]

We didn't know.

[Matt Jones]

He has to play point guard. And he's familiar.

[Franklin]

Those guys are familiar with him because.

[Matt Jones]

He played with them last year. There's a lot of bad variables in this game.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

There you go.

[Matt Jones]

So who you got? Who you got then?

[Shannon]

Virginia.

[Matt Jones]

It's looking like it right now. If I was a gambling man, but.

[Franklin]

Obviously I want my team to win, I'm gonna pick Louisville. But if I'm a gambling man, I'm taking Virginia in the points. I'm doing it right.

[Matt Jones]

Most inside.

[Caller or Guest (various callers)]

We're talking gambling, so, you know, we are talking DraftKings.

[Matt Jones]

That's. So that's DraftKings. That's your parent Johnson. DraftKings. Pick of the day. He says take Louisville, but it sounded like he wanted to take. Just bet.

[Franklin]

Money line right there.

[Matt Jones]

You took Virginia. I didn't get a win. Well, was out. Okay. Interesting. Hey, thank you folks, very much. Tomorrow, of course, Cats play against lsu. We'll preview the game and a lot more trivia for me. Thursday night. This has been ksr.

[Josh Zeman]

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[Spencer Graves]

A man with down syndrome tries the impossible, the grand slam in turkey hunting.

[Shannon]

4:53 hits.

[Matt Jones]

We're legal, shooting light. And he gives us this one last and he pitches off. And when he pitches off, he flies right into the gun barrel. I said to the cameraman, do you have him? He said, shoot him. I said, justin, shoot.

[Spencer Graves]

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