2026-01-20- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

KSR (Kentucky Sports Radio) — Hour 2

Date: January 20, 2026
Hosts: Matt Jones, Shannon Dawson, Ryan Lemond, Drew Franklin
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts / Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM)

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Episode Overview

This hour of KSR brings a lively and wide-ranging discussion of the aftermath of Indiana football’s national title, Kentucky basketball’s team identity, college sports’ “new era” with NIL and roster turnover, issues like player prop bets, and fun banter about hockey fights, sports nicknames, and a colorful call-in segment with “Truth.” The hosts’ tone is energetic, irreverent, and heavily flavored by their Kentucky roots.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Indiana Hoosiers Claim the College Football Crown

[02:16 – 06:12]

• Matt Jones introduces a reluctant discussion on Indiana’s surprising national title, praising their run through powerhouses (Ohio State, Alabama, Oregon—twice—and Miami):

  "It is certainly, however, deserved. You could argue one of...maybe not the best, but one of the best college football performances ever." (Matt Jones, 02:16)

• Drew Franklin admits the run is impressive but jokes that Indiana is hard to root for as UK’s basketball rival:

  "How can you not like Mendoza? ... But if it just wasn't the stinking Hoosiers… I was happy for Mendoza, not Indiana." (Drew Franklin, 03:55)

• Ryan Lemond shares personal pride:

  "My 84 year old dad called me because he was so excited...All my childhood friends are sending me text messages." (Ryan Lemond, 05:24)

• Discussion of the cultural impact, “lottery ticket” analogy on jealousy (Kumar = Indiana):

  "But so we're happy for him...in theory. And it also means it could happen to us, but then it didn't..." (Matt Jones, 06:48)

• Consensus: Indiana’s win is both historic and personally bittersweet for neighboring Kentucky fans.

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2. Memorable Call-in: ‘Truth’ the Fan and Lay Minister

[08:34 – 14:32]

• “Truth” calls in, blending heartfelt comments about Matt’s family with an unexpected story about performing a funeral for a same-sex couple in South Carolina:

  "So I came 11 hours and I done the funeral..." (Truth, 09:28)
  "If you love somebody, it's between you and God… You can't make mules out of thoroughbreds, so you got to match them up..." (Truth, 10:18)

• Classic “Truth-isms” emerge, especially in his wedding/marriage advice:

  "If you want to marry a mule, you marry a mule. If you want to marry a thoroughbred, you marry a thoroughbred." (Truth, 10:46)
  (Matt: “No one wants to be called a mule at their wedding, Truth!” 10:49-10:56)

• Drops Proverbs 18:22 as his go-to marriage verse.

• The hosts are equal parts entertained and perplexed, poking gentle fun at Truth’s unique phrasing and wisdom.

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3. Kentucky Basketball Team Nicknames & Identity

[14:41 – 18:47]

• Caller “Todd” suggests calling the team the “Rally Cats” and fans turning their hats inside out ("rally caps") for comebacks.
• Host reactions:

  "But I'm not going to call the team the rally caps if they don't have caps..." (Matt Jones, 15:40)

• Discussion of old nicknames (“Devastation Inc.,” “Clawback Cats”) and the urge to name every team.
• Entertaining hosting: "Second Halfables" is derided as the “worst name ever.”

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4. Should Kentucky & U.S. ‘Do Something’ About Greenland?

[18:47 – 21:13]

• A listener asks what the hosts think the U.S. should do about Greenland (a running joke).
• The panel unanimously decides to “leave Greenland alone,” poking fun at American interventionism:

  "Not once in my life...have I ever thought we should do something about Greenland. Leave them alone." (Ryan Lemond, 20:13)
  "Let's look inward at America and fix that and let Greenland be Greenland." (Drew Franklin, 20:35)

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5. Gambling: Player Props for College Sports

[21:13 – 22:40]

• Kentucky legislature is considering banning all college player props.
• The crew opposes the ban, especially with “over-only” (no unders) currently legal, agreeing that bans only push activity underground.

  "It's not the worst thing...but all those player prop bets will just go underground and be harder to track." (Matt Jones, 21:54)
  "If you want to bet on yourself to get the over, then it's fine, but you're not going to just purposely tank." (Shannon Dawson, 22:14)

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6. Lighthearted: Hockey Goalie Fight & Sportsmanship

[22:44 – 24:08]

• Reaction to viral hockey fight between goalies—skating to center ice to brawl.
• The spectacle is likened to “final bosses”:

  "They lock eyes… we're the heavyweights." (Drew Franklin, 23:25)

• Banter about which cohost would start the most fights (“Ryan would be that guy for this team...”).
• Lively, joking camaraderie.

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7. Mailbag & More: Dual-Sport Success, NIL, and College ADs

[31:00 – 34:54]

• Can UK (or anyone) excel in both football & basketball in the new NIL era?
• Discussion: Florida’s 2000s run cited.
• Matt predicts every Power 4 team will get some “stars,” but success is now about managing “the back 75%” of the roster and collective resources.

  "Our next president, our next AD might be somebody that doesn't really know anything about sports, but is a number pusher." (Matt Jones, 33:17)

• Drew adds that aligning donors/resources and hiring “general managers” will become vital, especially in basketball.

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8. Basketball Lineup Consistency & Inconsistency

[41:16 – 43:32]

• Caller Joe is optimistic that players now “define their roles” with more consistent rotation.

• Drew is less convinced, still needing evidence the team has truly “turned a corner” rather than just getting hot:

  "They’ve been so inconsistent...still haven’t answered… this team now is what it is..." (Drew Franklin, 42:19/42:57)

• Matt: If they beat Texas & Ole Miss, he'll believe stronger in their NCAA tourney odds.

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9. Fun Quote Highlight Reel

On Indiana’s Run:

• "Indiana is the best story ever, and it's not even close." (Matt Jones, 03:17)
• "I don't know what he just said, but I was locked in." (Drew Franklin, 14:14)

On sports nicknames:

• "Second Halfables is the worst name ever." (Matt Jones, 18:28)

On Greenland:

• "Not once in my life...have I ever thought we should do something about Greenland. Leave them alone." (Ryan Lemond, 20:13)

On NIL & College Sports:

• "Our next president, our next AD might be somebody that doesn't really know anything about sports, but is a number pusher." (Matt Jones, 33:17)

On Gambling/Bets:

• "If you want to bet on yourself to get the over, then it's fine..." (Shannon Dawson, 22:14)

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• [02:16] — Indiana football's national championship run discussed
• [08:34] — Call-in from Truth: tales of funerals, marriage, and Hoosier fandom
• [14:41] — Nicknaming the basketball team: “Rally Cats,” “Second Halfables,” “Clawback Cats”
• [18:47] — "What should we do about Greenland?" roundtable
• [21:13] — Kentucky legislature debating ban on player props
• [22:44] — Hockey goalies’ center-ice fight
• [31:00] — Can Kentucky (or anyone) be a football and basketball power in NIL era?
• [41:16] — Caller Joe on basketball lineup, roles, tourney hopes

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Memorable Quotes (Speaker & Timestamp)

• "If you want to marry a mule, you marry a mule. If you want to marry a thoroughbred, you marry a thoroughbred."
  — Truth, 10:46

• "Not once in my life...have I ever thought we should do something about Greenland. Leave them alone."
  — Ryan Lemond, 20:13

• "Our next president, our next AD might be somebody that doesn't really know anything about sports, but is a number pusher."
  — Matt Jones, 33:17

• "I don't know what he just said, but I was locked in."
  — Drew Franklin, 14:14

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Summary & Tone

This episode is a classic KSR blend of sports analysis, Kentucky-specific humor, and off-the-wall banter—with segments popular for their candidness (“Truth”) and crowd-pleasing takes on college athletics’ turbulent landscape. The show mixes nostalgia, real-time reactions, and wit, appealing to Kentucky fans and broader sports audiences alike.

Transcript

[Dr. Jesse Mills]

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[Ryan Lemond]

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[Dr. Jesse Mills]

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[Ryan Lemond]

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[Shannon Dawson]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287 Text machine is 772-774-5254. People were mentioning friends of celebrities that were friends. What about Shannon? Are George Clooney and Brad Pitt that good of friends?

[Shannon Dawson]

I didn't know they were friends at all. Did you either?

[Matt Jones]

I think just because they were in.

[Shannon Dawson]

A couple movies together doesn't mean your friends.

[Matt Jones]

Yes, I think it's hard. What about Steve Martin and Martin Short? They seem like friends.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think they're friends now. I don't know if they were friends growing up like Matt Damon and Ben affleck.

[Matt Jones]

Well, maybe not. 859-280-2287 let's talk just a little bit about the national title game last I don't want to talk about it because it Bums me out that Indiana is going to have a national championship. It is certainly, however, deserved. You could argue one of maybe not the best, but one of the best college football performances ever.

[Shannon Dawson]

What's better? What is better?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, I think the. I was making the argument that if they won that game by a huge margin, then you would have to put them up there because some of the best teams won by huge margins. I think the LSU team with Burrow, the Miami team with all those guys in like, 1998 or whatever, maybe one or two of those Saban Alabama teams. But this. This is definitely in the conversation. And you also have the number one future pick, so it's not like you got just some yokel.

[Shannon Dawson]

But it's football, though. I mean, lsu, Alabama, comparing that to Indiana football, I don't think there is a comparison, but that's.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but the question is, who's the best team? Not what's the best story. Indiana is the best story ever, and it's not even close. Yeah, but the question is, if they were to play who's the best team? And I think that's a little more unclear, but I will say, Drew, I'm very jealous of Indiana fans. I saw a picture of Signetti's first game in Indiana. Did you see that? There was no one there.

[Drew Franklin]

You have the crowd shot.

[Matt Jones]

They had more fans in Miami than Miami, which is kind of unbelievable. I mean, it wouldn't be. If you're a Hoosier fan, when would there have ever been a better time in your sporting life?

[Drew Franklin]

There's not. And I wish we could just take the Indiana logo off, because otherwise they're so likable. Like, how can you not like Mendoza? Not just that awesome run for that touchdown, but every time they interview him, it's like he's a robot that's been trained how to say all the right things. He did. He did cuss a little bit. It slipped. But if it just wasn't the stinking Hoosiers. There's so much to like about them. That little logo does take away from it, but I was happy for Mendoza, not Indiana, but he's a likable guy, and I'm glad he got to punch it in. I was actually rooting for them over Miami, even though it is our basketball rival.

[Shannon Dawson]

I thought he said a bad word. I go, he wouldn't say that. There's no way. He said. I must have misheard him. Did he actually say wow? Wow?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I think he said, like, rhymes with Chuck. I think he said it I thought I heard that.

[Shannon Dawson]

I was like, there's no way that guy says that they let it go.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

It didn't even acknowledge it when it was over. So I. It is an amazing story. I think it's the most amazing accomplishment in college sports and it's probably up there with one of the most amazing accomplishments in sports. It also, Ryan is going to get a lot of coaches fired, which is, there's going to be a lot of people who are going to see what Kurt Signetti did in Indiana and go, well, why can't we do that here? Right? So I think Signetti is going to be somebody that many years from now. People, people find a way to send to the door because he's. They're not able to accomplish what he has.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know, I'm super happy Indiana won. And the reason is because at 11:30 last night, my 84 year old dad called me because he was so excited, thinking this would never happen. All my childhood friends are sending me text messages. Can you believe we won? Can you believe they did this? I used to go to Indiana football games. No problem getting the ticket. You could sit wherever you want because there was nobody there. The worst college game I ever saw. Kentucky beat Indiana 3 to nothing. Over here at Commonwealth State back in the 90s, yeah, it was the worst game ever. And when Kentucky had the longest losing streak in America, you know who they beat to break the streak? Indiana. So that's why it's just crazy for all of us in Kentucky to know that Indiana is now atop the college football world.

[Matt Jones]

But you're happy about it?

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm happy because it made my dad happy, made my friends happy. So I'm, I'm happy for him.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not happy, Shannon. I mean, I acknowledge what they've done, but I don't like their glee. I, you know, but you don't see.

[Shannon Dawson]

That and go, well, that could be Kentucky. Kentucky could do that. Now that gives us hope.

[Matt Jones]

It's interesting because you. It's like if you grow up in a small town. Shannon, think about this. Let's say you have four friends and you all play the lottery. All five. And me and you play. But then our friends Boomer, Coomer and Doomer play.

[Shannon Dawson]

Doomer's not winning with that name, but.

[Matt Jones]

And then one day we get, we get a message. Kumar has won the lottery, right? And Kumar now is the toast. The town. He gets him a new house, gets a boat. He's traveling. And Kumar is living the life we always wanted to live. But so we're happy for him, kind of in theory. And it also means it could happen to us, but then it didn't, and we have to watch Kumar rub it in our noses. Are you going to be still happy for Coomer? Are you going to be like, man, Coomer, get out of here.

[Shannon Dawson]

It depends on if Kumar wants to give me some of that money, which I assume. Assume Indiana's not going to be giving Kentucky any money. I know, right? Yeah. Well, when you put it like that, it's a little different, I guess. But I still think that, you know, that that could be Kentucky if we can get to the playoffs.

[Matt Jones]

Big person to cheer for. Coomer. Yeah, I think like Ryan would cheer for Coomer. Yeah. Shannon, you would not cheer for.

[Shannon Dawson]

No, only if he gave me money. I would be. I'd be trying to steal this ticket.

[Matt Jones]

So I. I do think there's a little bit of that Ryan with me.

[Ryan Lemond]

I feel like, though, Indiana's almost earned it. They beat what, Ohio State, Alabama, Oregon twice and Miami. Yeah, I mean, it's not a flu.

[Matt Jones]

No, it's not a fluke at all. And the argument, Shannon, for why it would be the best would be that run, right, that you say you beat Oregon twice, Alabama, Ohio State, Miami. That's a pretty good group to take down to win the whole thing.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. Alabama just manhandled them like Alabama wasn't even recognizable in that game.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, congrats the Hoosiers. Let's just get this over with. Put stupid truth on.

[Shannon Dawson]

Oh, yeah, he's ready to go.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, no.

[Shannon Dawson]

Truth.

[Matt Jones]

How are you? True.

[Truth]

Hey, man, how you doing? I want the first thing, man. I always want to know how your dad doing. Cause we constantly pray for him every day. And that's same thing. No more reason I want to call it because you're still my friend and family. I love your mother and I love your father.

[Matt Jones]

Thank you very much, sir.

[Truth]

All right, man, let's get to business. First thing, man. First thing business about man. I was in South Carolina last Friday and I went to South Carolina because they didn't. A lady passed away and. And I meet this lady, she said I heard your voice before. I said where? She's on the radio and she told me I told I was the truth. But I end up they didn't have a minister due to her funeral. So I. I came 11 hours and I done the funeral.

[Matt Jones]

So what about you were just coming to the funeral to go and you ended up being the minister?

[Truth]

Yeah. Cause, man, I'm I'm. I'm the reason why, you know, people discriminate because people of the sex get married. They was judgmental. So the lady died December 28th. So they couldn't find a preacher.

[Matt Jones]

You, you, you. A gay wedding. And you. You did the service for them because they couldn't get anyone else. That's very nice of you.

[Drew Franklin]

Truth.

[Truth]

Well, that's good, Matt. Yeah, and I thank God for that. But let's get back to our Hoosiers.

[Matt Jones]

Let me ask you this. What's your message to couples? Like, if there's a couple listening here and you were to give some truth relationship message advice, what would it be?

[Truth]

Matt? Here's what. How I look at that. I leave it up to the individual because I'm not the judge. And I just. I don't. I'm not a judgmental person because I feel like that people. If you love somebody, it's between you and God. And you know what? You know, you can't make mews out of thoroughbred, so you got to match them up. So if you want to marry a mule, you marry me. If you want to marry thoroughbred, you want to marry thoroughbred. So that's why I look at it.

[Matt Jones]

This inspiring message for your wedding, Shannon.

[Shannon Dawson]

Exactly right.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Truth. I think we should refine that message. I don't think anybody out there wedding wants to be called a mule.

[Truth]

Well, see, you gotta. Gotta look, if you're a mule, you don't want a new face. Woman.

[Matt Jones]

Face.

[Caller]

Women.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think I. I mean, I think in most weddings I've been to that, they. They are not describing the faces of the women in. In terms.

[Truth]

No, I ain't. I'm talking about the attitude, you know, when you talk about you. If you're a thoroughbred, you don't mention a miss a thoroughbred. A thoroughbred run in the derby. A mule carry out logs.

[Matt Jones]

Following this. Are you following?

[Drew Franklin]

I'm trying. I'm trying.

[Truth]

You gotta. You gotta match them up.

[Matt Jones]

What is your go to Bible verse for your. For your ceremonies?

[Truth]

John 3:16. For God so loved the world he gave.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, that's. That's a great one, but I think everybody knows that one. It's also really doesn't have anything to do with marriage. Do you have one for marriage?

[Truth]

For he that found a wife, found a good thing and obtained favor with the Lord. Proverbs 18:22.

[Matt Jones]

Wow.

[Ryan Lemond]

There we go.

[Matt Jones]

This is why I like it.

[Drew Franklin]

Either.

[Matt Jones]

He finds a wife, tames favor from the Lord. You got it exactly right.

[Truth]

Man. Listen, you're not gonna Listen, I'm gonna talk about Indiana. Listen, let me tell you something that Jones, I have been. I've been an Indiana fan for 62 years. I have seen the SEC beat up on me and I have cried and I cry.

[Drew Franklin]

I.

[Truth]

Last night I went to sleep, man, Jones, this is true story. I woke up at 9 o', clock, I have a pinch myself and said, God, did Indiana win the state, win the national championship?

[Matt Jones]

What did God say?

[Truth]

And I looked at and turned on TV and guess what? They show it. But man, you know, you know what's. What makes me, you know, when you talk about people about being passion with fan, you're a passion UK fan. I am a passion by iu. You know, people say, and I like Kentucky, I like Louisville because we live in there, but I'm passionate for Indiana.

[Matt Jones]

I was happy for you. I was happy for you. You won the title. You deserve to be happy. And now that I know that you do weddings, when people write me and say that they need a wedding venue or a wedding, you know, somebody to oversee it, I'm going to send them to you. Okay?

[Truth]

I don't marry everybody. Now, I'll be honest with you. Now, I knew these people. I'm not. I'm not a drug senator, but I don't marry everybody.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Truth]

All right.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going to marry everybody. I appreciate it. Thank you.

[Truth]

Wait, I got one more thing to say.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, that's plenty of things. You were on for seven minutes. That's plenty of things.

[Truth]

Like JCPenney got picked up by JCPenney and you got a big.

[Matt Jones]

There you go.

[Shannon Dawson]

Classic truth.

[Matt Jones]

That is true, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

He calls it to talk smack about Indiana and didn't even get to it.

[Matt Jones]

Would you. Would you want to be in a truth wedding, Drew?

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, absolutely.

[Shannon Dawson]

You would?

[Drew Franklin]

100%.

[Matt Jones]

What?

[Drew Franklin]

I was locked into everything he was saying there. I still didn't know what I was listening.

[Shannon Dawson]

I don't know what he said.

[Drew Franklin]

I was locked in.

[Matt Jones]

I don't. Again, I don't listen to a lot of wedding ceremonies. What they're actually saying. That's usually about the, you know, we will walk hand in hand. I don't see. But I don't hear mule face a lot at ceremonies. But maybe you just do it a different way if you're the truth.

[Shannon Dawson]

Do you like that you were able to have them on that long and not even mention Indiana football somehow distracted them.

[Matt Jones]

That was the goal. Who's next?

[Shannon Dawson]

Let's go to Matt.

[Matt Jones]

Matt.

[Truth]

Got about a minute.

[Todd]

Hey, Matt. KSR crew. How are you? Guys doing this morning?

[Matt Jones]

Doing good.

[Todd]

I've got, I've got two things and I'm gonna hang up, let you talk about it. I'm actually loving the stretch that we're in right now with the basketball team. I think that they're showing some fight. They got fire in their bellies. I think they're gelling right now and it's. If this is going to be their, their identity for the rest of the season. This was my second thing. Everybody wants to throw out that generic comeback cats. I'm calling these, these cats, the rally cats. And how awesome would it be coming out of halftime that the fan base in the, in the arena, they turn their ball caps over to the rally caps. Show this team that we're behind them. No caps.

[Matt Jones]

But we don't. But the basketball team doesn't wear capsule in the fans.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, if you're wearing a hat, show up with your hat on.

[Matt Jones]

But I'm not going to call the team the rally caps. If we're not. If they don't have caps. That's just.

[Shannon Dawson]

Would be for us rally cats, I.

[Drew Franklin]

Think is what he's saying. Yeah, rally cats. But then you wear your rally cap.

[Ryan Lemond]

And the people in the crowd turn your hat inside out when they come out at halftime.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I'd do it if we had hats that we had on our head and we were the rally cat.

[Shannon Dawson]

Cat heads.

[Matt Jones]

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[Dr. Jesse Mills]

Hey there. This is Dr. Jesse Mills, director of the Men's Clinic at UCLA Health and host of the mailroom podcast. Each January, guys everywhere make the same resolutions. Get stronger, work harder, fix what's broken. But what if the real work isn't physical at all? To kick off the new year, I sat down with Dr. Steve Poulter, a psychologist with over 30 years experience helping men unpack shame, anxiety and emotional pain they were never taught to name. In a powerful two part conversation, we discuss why men aren't emotionally bulletproof. Why Shame hides in plain sight. And how real strength comes from listening to yourself and to others.

[Ryan Lemond]

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[Dr. Jesse Mills]

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[Matt Jones]

It's about once a year we get calls saying, what are we gonna call this team? Yeah, it's been a regular feature since the. What was the. What was the dominant devastation in corporate.

[Shannon Dawson]

That was a great name.

[Matt Jones]

Devastation Incorporated was the one many, many years ago. So it's now they've won a couple games. So we get this. You said during the break, Shannon, someone called and suggested.

[Shannon Dawson]

Guy called in, didn't want to be on the air. And now I know after he gave me his suggestion, which is, I think the worst name I've ever heard for a team, he said we should call them the second half of Bulls.

[Matt Jones]

Awesome.

[Shannon Dawson]

Worst name I've ever heard. I don't know what made him think that's a good name or idea. Stop it. Don't stop leaning into the second half of Bulls.

[Matt Jones]

Here come the second halfables or all.

[Drew Franklin]

The old teams had on. We could be like the un. First half of both.

[Ryan Lemond]

There we go.

[Drew Franklin]

That works.

[Shannon Dawson]

Second half of all is the worst name ever.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, what about the second half path?

[Shannon Dawson]

That's even.

[Drew Franklin]

Second half First Clawback Cats that came up on the show.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, Clawback. Okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

We got this fascination. We got to give every team a nickname.

[Matt Jones]

I hate it. But. But if we're gonna give one. How about second half? Yeah, I like that one person writes, Matt. I use you guys to decide what I'm going to think on issues of national importance. That's a good idea, by the way. Use the four of us. What do each of you four think we should do about Greenland? So I guess the options are nothing like be like it was. Invade them and go and end NATO with an invasion of Greenland or reach a deal where we buy it and give all the citizens 100 to $150,000 each. And we have to hope that they actually vote for that. Which are any of those three. What would you do, Shannon?

[Shannon Dawson]

Well, Greenland has already made it very clear they are not for sale. So that's take that off the table. So now we either do nothing or we invade them. And I would not ever be for just invading a Country just because we want them. So I think you do nothing. You let Greenland be Greenland.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. What I mean, was Greenland bothering you?

[Shannon Dawson]

No. I mean, to me, this is no different from Russia just trying to overtake Ukraine. We're just going to come in and just take your country because we can.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, if we do this, China will overtake Taiwan, Russia will take Crimea, and they'll go, well, you did it. So I do think that's an issue. What about you, Ryan? Would you be willing to give any money?

[Ryan Lemond]

You know, I'm gonna. I'm almost 60 years old, and not once in my life, not one time have I ever thought to myself, I heard somebody say, hey, we should probably do something about Greenland. Never has it come up in my thought process. Never come in by conversation. Greenland's never bothered us. Leave them alone. Do nothing.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so that's two votes for that Drew.

[Drew Franklin]

I just didn't realize that we were so perfect over here. We could worry about other places. I kind of feel like we should work on ourselves before we stop shopping around. So I say let's look inward at America and fix that and let Greenland be Greenland a little longer. We don't need other distractions and other things to worry about. We got plenty of issues here.

[Matt Jones]

New Year, New Year, new you. You need to focus on yourself. Right. Like, there's no reason. There's no look in the mirror trying to worry about outsiders. Yes, Shannon. We need to look in the mirror and say, what do we need to do for ourselves?

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, I mean, I'm good with just letting them be who they are. Let them be who they self.

[Drew Franklin]

That's right.

[Ryan Lemond]

Be proud of who you sell Greenland.

[Shannon Dawson]

Exactly.

[Truth]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Well, all right, so. So it's four. Oh, not. Do not invade Greenland. The kecky legislature has started. One of the things there that is up is banning all player props for college games. For it or against it?

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm definitely against it. We were on the road. Sometimes we get in those states where we can't do our player props. It always ticks us all off. So I'm against it. Let it happen.

[Drew Franklin]

I like where it is now. There's no unders. It's only overs. I mean, if they want to bet on themselves to go get an over, meaning you're already trying to do your best, so I wouldn't take them away, but I understand why you don't have unders, because that's where guys are able to cook it a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

I kind of agree with you. I think the way it's Developed to where now there's no unders. Works for me. I mean, it's not the worst thing in the world if you lose player props, but I think it also misses the point, which is then all those player prop bets will just go underground and they'll be harder to track. So, I mean, they're not going to go away. So, you know, it kind of is what it is. What about you, Shane?

[Shannon Dawson]

I like the player props, but I'm kind of with Drew. You know, do the overs view, like he said. If you want to bet on yourself to do the over, then it's fine, but you're not going to just go out there and purposely tank to win a bet and scam everybody.

[Drew Franklin]

The problem with the overs is now the sports books can make it a little higher because there's not an other side. So that's the only negative of the overs.

[Matt Jones]

That is negative.

[Drew Franklin]

There's only one thing to bet on. They can move the numbers a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

It doesn't balance out. Did you see the two hockey goalies fight yesterday?

[Ryan Lemond]

I did.

[Matt Jones]

Skated from each end of the ring and met in the middle and fought.

[Ryan Lemond]

With all their stuff on.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they had their stuff on and they got to fight the Sharks and the Panthers. You need to see the video. One of them took off from the other end of the room and just came down, was like, I guess I have to fight you, because everyone on the team was fighting. And Shane, I guess they felt like they had to fight, too. So I don't know that they interacted with each other the whole game. They're on opposite sides of the ice.

[Shannon Dawson]

You're talking trash all the way on the other end.

[Truth]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

I think they just were like, our teammates are fighting, and maybe we like each other. Right. Maybe we have a heated rivalry, but we still have to fight because that's what we have to do. Drew.

[Drew Franklin]

I always see this as, like, they're the. Like, the final boss for each team. Normally, they'll just let the other players fight, but when it's time and it's gotten so big, it's like they lock eyes. Like, all right, here we go. We're the heavyweights.

[Shannon Dawson]

That's what you're coming to watch anyway. You want to see a fight, you don't care about the scoring.

[Matt Jones]

But I could also see, like, if you were Shannon, if you played with, like, a Ryan Lemon who's always fighting, or Brandon Garrison.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And you were the goalie, and you're like, I got into this to be a goalie. I Did not get into this to fight people.

[Shannon Dawson]

And now because of you, I have to go.

[Matt Jones]

Brandon Garrison, you always make me fight in all these games. If I don't go fight, that might be annoying.

[Shannon Dawson]

You look like a feline, as we talked about earlier. So you got to go fight, right?

[Matt Jones]

You got to go fight.

[Shannon Dawson]

You don't want to be the one guy on the team that doesn't fight.

[Matt Jones]

I wouldn't want to be. Ryan would be that guy for this team. He would get us into fights all the time. And I'd go, do you mean I have to go punch Rich Eisen?

[Shannon Dawson]

Really?

[Matt Jones]

And it's. The answer will be yes, because Ryan did it. Who's next?

[Shannon Dawson]

Todd.

[Matt Jones]

Todd, Go ahead, Todd.

[Todd]

Hey, longtime listener, first time caller. The the gentleman that called earlier about his friend Jerry. I have no idea who that guy is, but I do know Jerry personally. I live here in Louisville and Jerry was an absolute great guy. But there's a little second part to that story. A mutual friend.

[Matt Jones]

20 seconds. You're gonna have to go quick.

[Truth]

I'm going quick.

[Todd]

Mutual friend of ours lives in Knoxville. Big U of K fan, has season tickets on the floor. Tennessee left the game texting. Happy had a medical emergency, is in the hospital. Please say prayers for John Thompson.

[Matt Jones]

All right, thank you. We will do that. We'll take a break. Be right back. SKSR TJ Smith, personal injury attorney.

[Ryan Lemond]

Call tj. He'll make him pay.

[Shannon Dawson]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

See, Nirvana was on it early.

[Shannon Dawson]

That's right.

[Matt Jones]

They were on it early. They knew this could happen.

[Shannon Dawson]

Greenland or Mexico.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, honestly. Well, we made through that too. Yeah, honestly, it's been. It is such a hilarious circus to when things come out and then people immediately defend them. Somebody writes, matt, are you proud of Scott Jennings who's having all the success on CNN and started on your show? On one level, yes. Like he's the most popular person on cnn but like all he does is like be a smarmy, like right wing guy. And I know he doesn't think those things. And so it's like Shannon, on the one hand, I can appreciate his wrestling healed them. Yeah. You know.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But on the other hand, I think this stuff matters, whereas wrestling doesn't the same. So I don't, I guess if it's frustrating when I see. But with that said, like, I remember him in that gold closet doing the shows at WLAX and some.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. You know, when it's, you know, shtick for what you're doing on the air to try to be an entertainer versus what you really believe.

[Matt Jones]

He's. It's. It's all stick with him and it's all stick with most of these folks. And that's what makes me frustrated. One person writes. Matt, what does Drew think about the Robert Sala hiring and what do you think about the Bears? I Drew, I'll let you go first. Looks like you're gonna hire handsome Robert Sala as your coach. Are you happy?

[Truth]

Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

Cover zero. Listeners know he was my pick the last week just because I didn't like the other picks. I will say I wish he was an offensive coach with Ward and the weapons we have, he's a defensive guy, so he needs to go get a good offensive coordinator. But overall, I support the hire and we dodged a lot of the ones I thought they might do.

[Matt Jones]

You were really worried about Mike McCarthy.

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't want him. I would have taken Mike McDaniels over Mike McCarthy. I didn't want McCarthy.

[Matt Jones]

Nagy.

[Drew Franklin]

A lot of these head coaches I've already seen lose. I wanted. Even though Solo lost to the Jets, I'm at least going to say it was the jets and I'm going to believe in him.

[Matt Jones]

Do you have hope now? I mean, like, part of being a.

[Truth]

Fan is having hope. Calm down.

[Drew Franklin]

No, absolutely not. This is the Titans. I'm just watching players.

[Ryan Lemond]

All the.

[Matt Jones]

All these teams that have turned it around. I mean, the Patriots, the Bears, the Seahawks, the Broncos, all these teams have turned it around in a year. You could be next.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes. Amy Adams does not. Amy Adams does not own any of their teams. Amy Adams, strong, worst owner in sports. So we will probably trade Ward or release him with about three or four years from now because the moment we have someone that's good, it's like, oh, they're washed. Let's get rid of them. Even Kevin Byard, a safety, is making plays for the Bears. We were like, oh, we can't possibly put this guy in the game. He's too old. That was two or three years ago. There are guys all over the league that were on the Titans just a couple of years ago that we let walk.

[Matt Jones]

He's a little worked up. Shannon, we need new ownership. New ownership?

[Drew Franklin]

Our buildings crumbling.

[Matt Jones]

The Bears lost. Would you say, Ryan? Where's that rank amongst the best passes of all time?

[Ryan Lemond]

Dude has no conscious to what he did against the two packers games. And at the end of the game in the Rams the other day, unbelievable. That pass he threw running backwards.

[Matt Jones]

He ran 30 yards in the wrong Direction.

[Shannon Dawson]

I said, no blinking way. When he said, when that happened, I was like, there's no way that happened.

[Ryan Lemond]

And then it's a perfect pass in the end zone.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

No.

[Matt Jones]

How are they defending that? Like, what was that other guy doing? He must have just been.

[Shannon Dawson]

He gave up on the play because he didn't even believe that, you know.

[Matt Jones]

They could get it there. And then they lost, which was a shame. I mean, he had a chance through an interception, but it was a great year. So I'm very happy as a Bears fan. You don't want to lose in the playoffs, but I'm happy now. Counter that to Josh Allen, who, you know, looks like this was his year and he didn't do it. What did you think, Shannon, of all the crying from Josh Allen at the press conference?

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, I mean, way cry about it.

[Drew Franklin]

Right.

[Shannon Dawson]

But I think they probably did have a little bit of an argument on that play that was called an interception that should have been. I mean, isn't that.

[Matt Jones]

You think he caught it?

[Shannon Dawson]

I thought he did. I thought that he did.

[Matt Jones]

Hard to say. Yeah, hard to say he caught it or did you think it was an interception?

[Drew Franklin]

By the rule, I thought it was an interception. Now, I might have some disagreements with how they complete the catch, but we've seen that a few times. Even though it stinks for Bill's fans. I think that was an interception.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, of course it was interception.

[Matt Jones]

Just in general, let me say, I think the rules people do a relatively terrible job because they come on there and they're getting it wrong 33% of the time. And while I do appreciate them explaining what the rule is, sometimes they'll look and they'll say, shannon, like he didn't catch it. I'm looking at them catch it. Right? And I just get mad at him. I'm like, who died and made you the rules king on television?

[Shannon Dawson]

Right. Yeah, they're. They're wrong a lot like you said.

[Matt Jones]

So they're wrong quite a bit.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. Maybe they need a new rules guy on there.

[Matt Jones]

You know the rules Stratatory. I feel like he does. He does college basketball, too. I don't know how I could know both he does the NFL and college basketball.

[Drew Franklin]

Nobody knows that many rules.

[Shannon Dawson]

He knows ball.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. He's got one guy. And they're like, you're going to learn the balance beam, and you're gonna. You're gonna learn how to score it. Who's next?

[Shannon Dawson]

Nick.

[Matt Jones]

Nick. Go ahead, Nick.

[Truth]

Guys, hey.

[Caller]

Shout out to Shannon. I think I heard meet in the middle plays. We Went to the radio break, man. I think it goes over people's head. You kill it on the music a lot, man. Like that was a. After the hockey story. That was perfect.

[Shannon Dawson]

Thank you.

[Matt Jones]

He's the best transition.

[Caller]

Yeah. Quick question about football and basketball. When I look back through the history of Division 1 sports, very few teams that have done it successfully on both fronts. We're in a different era. But Florida comes to mind like thousands. That was insane. Had to be fun to be a Florida span. Can we do it on both fronts, Football and basketball? That's my question.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I. I do think you can do it now. You know, this is going to be a conversation I'm gonna have with Will. Will Stein, hopefully on the air. Appreciate the call. I consider the new. In football now, basketball is a different situation. I think basketball, it's still up in the air how this stuff is all gonna go. But in football, you're gonna have 16 to 8 million, $18 million. Every team is going to have it and they're going to have to spend it. So every team is going to get some good players. And we've never seen that before. We've never seen every team in power four be able to get good players. Kentucky is going to have some guys that they get over the next few years that are better than the guys they normally get. But I think the question is going to be if you spread the stars out at all the other schools, then the question is going to be who manages the back 75% of their roster the best. And Drew, I think that's where Kentucky can really make an impact. We probably won't get. We'll get stars. They might not be Alabama Stars, LSU Stars, etc. But they're still going to be stars. But then can we manage that money on the back end better than these other schools do?

[Drew Franklin]

And some there will be teams that have it all figured out where they're doing both. Maybe not competing for an actual championship in both, but being very successful. Hell, just a week ago, Vanderbilt's men's and women's basketball teams were undefeated. They were combined 33 and oh. In their football team was knocking on the door of the playoff and that's Vanderbilt.

[Matt Jones]

So some of these teams, though it's a businesswoman. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Some of these teams will figure out how to sustain it.

[Matt Jones]

They brought in a woman from the world of business. Not somebody. Ryan, who grew up in athletics departments. This is somebody. They brought in a woman from the world of business to run the athletic department. Some Vandy fans are like, oh, she didn't play anything. And she's ended up making the. That athletic department better than it's ever been in its history. I think it's going to be that kind of thing. I think you're going to.

[Truth]

You.

[Matt Jones]

Our next president, our next AD might be somebody that doesn't really know anything about sports, but is a number pusher.

[Ryan Lemond]

Has to be. And these general managers that the teams are hiring has to be the same type of guy. Not just be able to eye talent, but to put a value on that talent. Don't overspend for people. Spend it the right way and develop your roster.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, these football teams are going to have to be Dave Ramsey shit. You're gonna have to rip up things. Like, unless you're somebody that has a collective that can give you eight or $10 million more than the rev share and some of these schools do, it's going to be who balances this money. Now, on the basketball side, it's a completely different situation. On the basketball side, we don't have 16 to $18 million rev share. We have like three to four, which means, Drew, the nil thing is how we're going to pay for 75% of our roster. And so how we manage that, how we negotiate that, how many donors participate, those are going to become massive factors in basketball success. Even more than actually picking the players. Like, can you get the resources to compete?

[Truth]

Yep.

[Drew Franklin]

And it'll take more help than just head coaches trying to do all this. Which reminds me of something I meant to say in the Will Stein conversation yesterday. He said basically, I can't imagine doing this without a general manager. You couldn't. You know, we've all debated that. Stein said yesterday, you cannot coach this day and age and not have help with your business side of things. And that's why I think basketball will have to add it. And the teams that are successful will have all that extra help and admit that coaches can't take all this on.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's. Everybody's going to have to give up a little power. And I think this is the way to do it. And it seems like the way the Will Stein sort of setup is, is it looks to me like it will work, but there's going to be a lot of different styles, and we're going to see which one works. And then within 15 years, probably everybody will be doing the same one. But whoever figures it out first, I think has a chance to pull in Indiana and make a run. They figured out Indiana figured out that in the Nil era having a group of players who've played together might be the ultimate inefficiency that you can. You can take advantage of now what will that be in an era where you can pay everybody? We'll find out. And by the way, there's also Ryan like a third as many people in the portal this year. Did you know that?

[Ryan Lemond]

I didn't realize that. I thought the portal was completely find.

[Matt Jones]

That actually kind of interesting.

[Ryan Lemond]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

There are less people in the portal this year than last year.

[Ryan Lemond]

So does he think just teams or teams are going to make an effort to resign people?

[Matt Jones]

I think they're retaining people during the year more now and I think you're just seeing more of it and it's smaller window so people do it quicker. Start the new year off strong with taking care of yourself. That includes your king. Wait a minute where I did blue guy skin center.

[Ryan Lemond]

Didn't we?

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. Yeah. Do draft kings or Don Franklin.

[Matt Jones]

No, I need Kentucky State chamber. Well, let's do. Let's do draftkings. You go to DraftKings bet 5, win $300 of bonus bets. We've not been on a roll. Let's start turning around and I say we might as well drew turn it around tonight. No time like the present, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Absolutely.

[Matt Jones]

Vandy at Arkansas, 9 o'. Clock. The doors go on the road to see Cal and the Hogs. Who you got?

[Ryan Lemond]

Go ahead.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm going to take Arkansas one and.

[Matt Jones]

A half point favorite.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm going to take the Hogs at home. Even though Vandy's legit, their start wasn't some fluke. They're. They're one of the best teams in the conference.

[Ryan Lemond]

Vandy to me is really good. That little Tyler Tanner their point guard is awesome. But Arkansas's tough at home this year. It seems like I'm going Arkansas at home.

[Matt Jones]

Arkansas. Shannon.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. I kind of feel like Arkansas is going to win. I can't pick Arkansas though. Give me Vandy on the road at a boy. They've lost their last two. They get back on track next tomorrow night.

[Matt Jones]

It's only one and a half. I would. This is going to be my. Put it down, lock it down. Strap it to the floor and dance with it. Lock of the week.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. That means Vandy's gonna win now Arkansas.

[Matt Jones]

Is going to cover the one and a half. They are going there. There's. There's no way. Arkansas does not.

[Shannon Dawson]

No way.

[Dr. Jesse Mills]

Okay.

[Shannon Dawson]

No way. Mark the tape of the year. Keep double down.

[Matt Jones]

Triple down like John Caliper home against Vandy this is a lock of the year, okay? They're gonna pig suey your little dorky protractors and they're, they're gonna beat them. They're gonna beat him by like 13, okay?

[Shannon Dawson]

If you're wrong, I'm going to save this. I got receipts.

[Matt Jones]

Then save it. It's the lock of the year, okay? I don't say things that are locks that aren't locks.

[Shannon Dawson]

Hope Andy wins so I can play this for you.

[Matt Jones]

Here's the reality in Kentucky right now. People can't afford child care, a place to live. And if they do that, the jobs and businesses can't grow. That's why the Kentucky Chamber is taking on this crisis. When parents can't find childcare, they can't go to work. When they can't find housing, they can't be in the place where the jobs are. That's why our legislators in Frankfort have to fix the basics, child care and housing, so Kentucky's workforce can actually work. Visit opportunity starts here.com that's our opportunity starts here.com to learn more. Lock of the Week Lock of the year Arkansas we'll be right back. Welcome back. Final segment Kentucky Sports Radio 859280, 2287. Tomorrow we will be at KS Bar and Grill for the game but also for our show. So we'll be there from 10 to noon. Pregame show starts at 4:30 for all of you coming to the game. Then on Saturday we're actually opening early for serve breakfast for Ole Miss. Breakfast with the Rebs game is at noon so we're going to open at 9. Our pregame show starts at 9:30. So come out and have breakfast before you go to the games. Ryan should be a lot of fun.

[Ryan Lemond]

We've said it many times. Our breakfast is really good. So I was to get excited when we open up early to have breakfast for a noon tip off down at Rock.

[Matt Jones]

This may be the only one this year. I think that's a home noon game. So it's your, it's your chance to get breakfast. Breakfast at Wimbledon just same thing as breakfast at KS Bar. 859-280-2287 One person writes Matt, what did you think of Bob in Jamestown with Mario? I thought it was excellent clips. Drew were great. Bob and Jamestown dressed just like I'd hoped. Mario was sufficiently freaked out by him without being scared. There's a great video he put up later in the weekend of him interviewing other people besides Bob. The Looney Tunes that were there. I think it was excellent Part of.

[Drew Franklin]

Me was a little jealous. I wouldn't trade places because the Tennessee game was so fun. But the moment I saw Bob's outfit, I thought, oh, I should be there in person with the tassels. I don't even know where you get a leather jacket with tassels. But then I saw Mario and Paul at Bourbons and Bubbles that night, and I asked, you know, do you believe in aliens now? And they said they actually believe in aliens less than they did. So the speaker did not do his part of the experience.

[Matt Jones]

I would have totally imagined that the library across the street from the church in Brooklyn, Ohio, would not do a lot to change people's view about aliens.

[Shannon Dawson]

Seemed like everybody's in the church. Yeah, everybody that was there had like seen UFOs or something. Like everybody he interviewed, one person said they even saw a UFO that day.

[Ryan Lemond]

That day before they walked the odds.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, and I. I saw that and I felt bad. I felt like Mario was doing elder abuse with some of those questions. You should not. Some people should not be on camera. And the woman who said she saw an alien earlier today, Shannon, I thought was one of those people maybe shouldn't be on camera.

[Shannon Dawson]

A bunch of kooks. But, you know, looks like he at least had fun.

[Truth]

Fun.

[Matt Jones]

And we got some great videos. So if you haven't seen it, it's on the ksr, all the various accounts and then his personal Facebook. There's a lot of stuff. Stuff there. Who's next?

[Shannon Dawson]

Let's go to Joe.

[Matt Jones]

Joe. Go ahead, Joe.

[Truth]

Hey, guys. Enjoy the show as you guys keep me company as I walk down 38 between Rosemary beach and Sea Crest. It's about 55 degrees and sunny down here, but anyway, about to rub it in. Gotta. Gotta comment about Kentucky basketball first. I think they all knew at halftime of the Missouri game that low went coming back. So that said, they defined their roles. Left rotation DA became the point guard. Now we've got two, six, five guys a guard with oway that that are just senior. They're tough, tough as nails. So I look for us to have a really, really good season from here on out.

[Matt Jones]

I hope so when it comes to. For me. For me, it looks like they drew have the guys that are playing in the right positions that some of the lineup issues have been worked on. The issue now for me is consistent effort and playing intelligently. Do you agree with that?

[Truth]

That and I absolutely agree with.

[Drew Franklin]

Go ahead. No, you have the floor. Whichever. I don't want to downplay what Aberdeen has done, but I'm curious if he's turned a corner or did he just get red hot for a week? Because respectfully, that's not the Aberdeen we've seen all year. If he's really turned a corner and sure he's not going to be perfect in the field again, or probably not, then, yeah, I think they really have something here. But I still need to see. They've been so inconsistent in these wins. I still don't know what this team is. I mean, I'm happy they won and the Comebacks were awesome. But if you're asking me to go out and make some big proclamation that they're going to be, you know, something, jump into another tier, go win a bunch of games, I'm, I'm still not there yet because I, they still haven't.

[Matt Jones]

Answered the argument that Rob Doster is the argument that Rob Doster said Ryan to on field of 68, which is okay, so this team now is what it is. Jaylen Lowe's not coming back. Quaint may not either. And so like now everybody knows what they are. They can just learn what they are and just go. Is there something to that?

[Ryan Lemond]

I think there's something to be said about that, especially for Aberdeen. Now he knows what his role is. He's the point guard. He's not looking over his shoulder. He's not getting moved over to the two. And when he went to the bench and foul trouble when Jasper came in, Jasper didn't have to look over his shoulder. He knew he was the guy. I think it does allow them to kind of settle him and just play ball.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, we'll see. I, I, I'm not, I'm not negative about the future. I just, I honestly have no idea what's going to happen. I think if they can beat Texas and Ole Miss, I'll feel pretty good about getting to the tournament. But any given game, I have no idea what's going to, what's going to happen. But that'll make the tournament the season at least exciting. And thank goodness they came back and won these last two. Appreciate all of you listening. We will be at the bar tomorrow. Don't, don't forget and let's get a victory. Go Cats. Wednesday against Texas has been Kentucky Sports Radio.