2026-01-22- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) — Hour 1 (January 22, 2026)

Hosts: Matt Jones, Shannon the Dude, Drew Franklin
Location: KSBar & Grille, Lexington, KY
Focus: Kentucky Basketball’s key win, Roster and injury challenges, and a unique “Kentucky Weatherman Challenge”

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Episode Overview

This KSR hour delivers a deep-dive into Kentucky’s recent 85-80 victory over Texas, analyzing the team’s tournament prospects, player development narratives, injury issues, and the intricacies of NCAA eligibility amidst new G-League-to-college transfer rules. Matt Jones and crew also tease their inventive "Kentucky Weatherman Challenge" — a charity-driven contest to hold local meteorologists publicly accountable for their snow forecasts.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Game Recap: Kentucky 85, Texas 80

[04:27-12:05]

• Critical Win:

  • This game was “must-win” to stay in the NCAA tournament hunt due to a daunting remaining schedule (10 of 12 upcoming games are Quad 1 opponents).
  • “We needed to win this game and we want it kind of fighting tooth and nail...” — Matt Jones [04:27]

• Game Analysis:

  • Team showed resilience; fluctuations in lead but Kentucky held on.
  • Key contributors: OA, Aberdeen (since Low left), Chandler (second half surge), Moreno (strong minutes).
  • Chandler’s confidence narrative: “Felt like he stuck his tongue out every couple minutes in someone's face... he broke out.” — Shannon [06:13]

• Defensive Identity:

  • Kentucky on pace to allow fewest points in SEC. Only Tennessee has allowed less.
  • “That needs to be our identity with the team that we have.” — Matt Jones [06:47]

• Free Throws:

  • Made 30/35, besting Texas at the line—huge in a close game.

• Opposing Players:

  • Big issue with “Swain” from Texas who “killed us every time”; only player Kentucky couldn't contain.
  • Colorful banter about Texas’ “big dude” and his antics: “He held on every play... either he was holding and cheating or whining.” — Shannon [08:06]

Notable Moments:

• Chandler’s “flu game” tongue-out celebration and boost in performance, despite illness [10:13].
• Morale boost: “I now don’t dread the games... OA and Aberdeen have been great since conference play.” — Matt Jones [05:56]

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2. Roster Challenges & Injury Fallout

[12:05-17:44]

• Cam Williams Injury:

  • Foot injury sidelines key shooter, potentially for the season.
  • Matt Jones is critical of Kentucky’s opaque injury policy: “It’s not fair to the kids, it's not fair to the fans... just be honest about injuries.” [12:05]

• Filling the Void:

  • Discuss options:
    • Promote from within (redshirt freshmen: Trent Noah, Hawthorne)
    • Pursue G-league talent (notably “Dink” Pate)
    • Chemistry concerns with adding G-league players midseason

• NCAA Eligibility Loopholes:

  • Detailed breakdown of three recent cases involving G-league/college eligibility ("Baylor kid," “Alabama kid,” “Dink” Pate).
  • “There is zero difference between yellowch and pate.0. They both signed the equivalent of the same contract with a pro team.” — Matt Jones [25:51]

Notable Quotes:

• “If a kid is that good, he ain't gonna be in college five years anyway.” — Matt Jones on burning redshirts [15:03]
• “If you don't want the kids, you don't want him. But I hope it's not for moral reasons, because that seems dumb to me.” — [25:39]

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3. Roster Management & NCAA Loopholes — Ethics vs. Strategy

[23:24-27:44]

• Hot debate about whether Kentucky should pursue available G-league players; internal tension between tradition and “keeping up with the times.”
• Shannon predicts UK admin (Barnhart) is unlikely to push for it; Matt dismisses old-guard reluctance: “Your plan hasn't worked... why would we make it worse for Americans?” [25:58]
• Comparison of European and American players’ eligibility rules: “We've been taking pros for 15 years — it's just they were from Europe.” — Matt Jones [25:51]

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4. Team Outlook & Remaining Schedule

[29:48-32:58]

• Pessimistic but realistic:

  • Projected to win 5 or 6 of remaining 12 games. Going .500 would be an achievement.
  • “If he can get five with this group... As a coaching job, I actually think it would be pretty good... As a GM job, it's still pretty bad.” — Matt Jones [31:38]

• Tournament math:

  • “Five certainly gets him in the tournament. Four maybe gets him in the tournament. Three does not.” — Matt Jones [32:14]

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5. Kentucky Weatherman Challenge — Accountability & Charity

[02:49, 35:29-38:51]

• Premise:

  • $7,000 to charity (from Commonwealth Causes + Matt Jones) for the meteorologist who most accurately forecasts the coming snowstorm.
  • Public “shaming” for networks and personalities who refuse to play; checkmark system for commitments to participate.
  • “If you refuse to participate, I think you are saying to... Kentucky, I don't stand by my weather.” — Matt Jones [36:03]

• Execution:

  • Participants’ names concealed until all have made predictions.
  • “Today I'm going to get commitments to predict. So the first thing Mario is going to be doing, the check is: Did you commit to predict?” [37:41]
  • Notable first commit: Ryan Hall, y’all.

Listener Engagement:

• Heavy listener excitement for weather talk, sometimes even more than basketball [35:29].

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6. Lighter Moments and Listener Calls

[46:38-51:23]

• Lucky Shirt Watch:
  • Moreno reportedly wearing same t-shirt (with visible stain) for four consecutive games — possibly a lucky charm [46:38-47:52].
• Listener Banter:
  • Nostalgia over Kentucky’s former “Dinky McKay” at QB [27:54], “best Lexingtonian” nominations, and humorous digressions about class attendance and dinosaurs in school [50:33].
• Meta-commentary:
  • Fewer calls when Kentucky wins; more when there’s “misery” [34:29].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You are being punished for being American... In this, I think we can all agree we shouldn't make it worse for Americans. Right?” — Matt Jones [26:58]

• “It's good to see him play pretty much a full 40 minutes and hadn't had to struggle and claw come back from a 17, 18 point deficit... I find myself getting sucked back in liking this team again.” — Drew [05:36]

• “If the rules allow it, why not pursue it? If you're asking me... I go give Noah the shot first, Hawthorne second, Dink third.” — Drew [13:31]

• “He seems he lost his confidence the last month, last night... he broke out. Broke and found it back.” — Shannon, on Chandler’s breakthrough [06:13]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:27–12:05] – Texas game breakdown, confidence in key players, defense/free throws
• [12:05–17:44] – Injuries, options for filling rotation gaps, G-league transfer loopholes
• [23:24–27:44] – Ethics and strategy of G-league college eligibility, Matt’s “Make American Basketball Great Again” argument
• [29:48–32:58] – Realistic win projections and Mark Pope’s coaching grade
• [35:29–38:51] – Kentucky Weatherman Challenge rules and charity, listener/culture reaction
• [46:38–47:52] – Moreno’s lucky shirt (“the same stain on his shirt”)
• [48:24–51:23] – Listener humor about “MABGA,” old basketball teams, eligibility chaos

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Conclusion

This hour of KSR was both classic and candid—a real-time mix of fan optimism, practical skepticism, and playful, sometimes biting, humor. Matt Jones steers thoughtful conversations about how Kentucky can navigate injuries, eligibility shifts, and evolving basketball culture, while the Weatherman Challenge injects a local, entertaining twist with charitable impact. If you want a pulse on Kentucky basketball and the broader sports culture, this episode is essential listening—or reading.

Transcript

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[Matt Jones]

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[Drew]

All right, let's go.

[Matt Jones]

Hour one, we talk about the game. Hour two, we set up what America's gonna be talking about for the next 48 hours. The Kentucky Weatherman Challenge. $7,000 to give away to charity from Commonwealth causes and me personally. Five from them, two from me. And I'm willing to add more if other sponsors want to get in. That goes to the weatherman who most accurately predicts the snow. And my thought is we get 10 weathermen either by their choice or public shaming. Get them to make a prediction, and whoever's the closest gets the glory. Drew, what do you think?

[Shannon]

Very excited about this. They all get to stay on their separate networks and just throw predictions out with no consequences. Everybody, they're going head to head.

[Matt Jones]

No one remembers.

[Shannon]

Couldn't tell you a single forecast.

[Matt Jones]

And now they go ahead. It's time to separate the wheat from chaff. I mean, that's what's. That's what needs to happen. And today we'll do it. They would have until. I'm gonna give you a little hit. This will be second hour. They'll have until Friday, end of show tomorrow to put it in so they can get their latest models. The ones that say, oh, I need more data until it starts snowing. Well, at that point, we're stuck anyway. You gotta get like, the whole point of weather is predicting. If you're not predicting well, you're just looking out the window. That's the whole point.

[Drew]

Have you had anybody yet reach out to you?

[Matt Jones]

Yeses. Before I even asked.

[Drew]

That's really good.

[Matt Jones]

I know there's gonna be some people that are hard.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Yeah, we have friends of the show. Like, I think I'll be able. Well, I'm using up the time. This is an 11 o' clock topic.

[Drew]

That's what we all want to talk about.

[Matt Jones]

10 o' clock is the game.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Kentucky won 85. 80 against Texas. Big game for Kentucky to win. Especially if you look at the fact that if our next 12 games, 10 of them are against Quad 1 teams. We only have two more games, one of which is Saturday. It's not a quad one game. So we needed to win this game and we want it kind of fighting tooth and nail, went back and forth back and forth. It was a five point lead down to a five point deficit. It just kept. I mean, there were two very even teams. They're a bubble team. I kind of think we're a bubble team now with what the roster has and we won at home, which is what you need to do. I said that we need to win eight games probably to make the tournament. Nine for sure. To make the tournament. And now what? You have five. Is that right? Was that right?

[Drew]

You said the magic number was seven.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Do we have five or we have four? I'm confused. We've won four in a row. So we have four in the conference. Four? Yeah, in the conference we have four. So I think you're four, maybe five wins away. Sounds like not many, but now go look at that schedule and tell me where they are because it's not, it's not necessarily easy, but you got the one you needed.

[Drew]

You know, it's good to see him play pretty much a full 40 minutes and hadn't had to struggle and claw come back from a 17, 18 point deficit. It's good to see OA and Aberdeen kind of learn how to play together, you know, three straight games in a row where Aberdeen has looked really, really good since Low left the floor. Showed some grit, showed some fight. You know, I find myself getting sucked back in liking this team again.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean, like, I now don't dread the games, but I will say OA and Aberdeen have been great since conference play. Colin Chandler now stepping up and looking really good. You got more great minutes from Moreno. A lot of positives last night.

[Shannon]

Yeah, a lot of fun. It was pretty neat in Rupp arena because even though it was tied in halftime, people felt like we had already won. Yeah, you know, you Kentucky fans shouldn't be tied at halftime, but last night there was a celebration like we're gonna win this now because we did not go down in a big hole. Of course they did go and win it. Even though had a few moments scary there. But other than the halftime score, people were loving the second half surge from Chandler. I mean, hitting the threes, the steals. Felt like he stuck his tongue out every couple minutes in someone's face. He, he seems he lost his confidence the last month, last night and the last week for those road games. He broke out. Broke and found it back.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. I mean, we are on pace to allow the fewest points in the SEC so far this season. Right now only Tennessee has less than us allowed. That's great when you consider that needs to be our identity with the team that we have, we took. I know we gave up 80 to Texas, but I think that's a win. Because they put up so many points, we didn't allow them to shoot as many free throws. We made 30 out of 35 free throws, a huge number for this team. And three of them were the ones Aberdeen missed at the end, where I think it was more just focus than anything else. That was huge mode about a to his credit. Hit some huge free throws. Stretch went, I think four or five. So all that stuff helped, you know.

[Drew]

You, you, you mentioned the free throws that led the country. And most free throws attempted, most free throws made. And we shot more than them. Kept them off the free throw line. And our perimeter guys, Aberdeen, Ohay Chandler, did a good job on their perimeter guys. Kind of kept them out from getting, driving to the basket and drawing those fouls and getting the free throw.

[Matt Jones]

The only thing we couldn't stop was the one dude. What was his name?

[Drew]

Swain.

[Matt Jones]

Swain. He killed us every time. When Brandon Garrison got in, I just started betting Swain points. I did not, but I should have because most of his points came on Garrison. But he, he was great. But he made their only two threes.

[Shannon]

Yeah, he was tough. Last night I found the player I hate more than anyone else in the country.

[Matt Jones]

I know who it is.

[Shannon]

Their big dude. He held on every play.

[Matt Jones]

Talking about the white guy, right? Yeah.

[Shannon]

I'm not. I can't say his name. Marino would tell the ref. Pope would tell the ref. Pope even yelled the BS word at the ref. It was every single play. But then if the ref acknowledged it or if UK player did it back, he would just whine. The biggest crybaby. So either he was holding and cheating or whining when he wasn't getting.

[Matt Jones]

Where's he from?

[Shannon]

I don't know, but there's not a worse person in basketball.

[Matt Jones]

Wow. Strong words.

[Shannon]

I got so tired. Pope in the first half was livid about it. Marino's throwing his hands in the air.

[Matt Jones]

And the referee, because he had long hair.

[Shannon]

Yeah, okay. I think that was it. Bad haircut.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, he had a lot. He.

[Shannon]

I was so tired of him, though.

[Matt Jones]

He is one of those guys.

[Shannon]

Cheater.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, Pope said Texas is the dirtiest team. And he didn't say it as a put down. He was just acknowledging like, they will bring you down to their level. And they do because they just sit here and do this the whole night, wait for you to get upset.

[Shannon]

And then when Garrison would give him a little elbow. Oh, he Seemed elbow me way. But then he'd go right back to Holden. One or the other.

[Drew]

About this guy.

[Matt Jones]

He does.

[Shannon]

Not a fan.

[Drew]

What?

[Matt Jones]

What do you mean what? I'm looking right? She's. That's your turn to talk.

[Drew]

I thought we did really good last night.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, thank you for it. Thank you for helping.

[Drew]

I will say this. We saw it coming with Colin Chandler.

[Matt Jones]

Did we? I mean, I didn't.

[Drew]

Well, we know ball. You know ball. You saw it coming.

[Matt Jones]

Excuse me? If you knew ball. So you're saying I don't know ball.

[Drew]

Well, you can see it in the last couple games, kind of developing that confidence hitting the shot.

[Matt Jones]

He is getting confident.

[Drew]

Getting extra minutes at the end of the game. I think that is help. We saw it coming.

[Matt Jones]

Are we getting closer to where he gets the Kobe bra thing where if he's open and shoots it, you're like, all right, that's in. Are you there yet?

[Shannon]

I think so.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, you're not there yet. He missed one at the end.

[Shannon]

Yeah, but he hit one in the big guy's face. I love that because I don't know if I mentioned it. That guy was awful last night. But right after he hit it in his eye, Chandler, that's the first time I saw him sticking out his tongue. That's when he was really feeling it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I, I didn't. I didn't know Mormons. The tongue. Yeah, I don't know if that's a lot of tongues. Last thing there was just a lot of tongue.

[Shannon]

But he was also sick, so it was like double MJ last.

[Matt Jones]

So was it his? Was that his flu game?

[Shannon]

Flu game. Tongue out.

[Matt Jones]

I had this happen just the night before. I felt like I had the flu, you know? He missed shoot around.

[Drew]

Yes, he did.

[Matt Jones]

I missed episode four, season three, the Diplomat.

[Nav Green]

All right.

[Matt Jones]

I couldn't. I couldn't do it. I slept really well. Came out yesterday. Felt like I gave a great performance. He skipped shoot around gets ready. That 24 hour flu, I think it hit Colin, hit me. Sometimes maybe it gives you a little bit of energy because he looked amazing.

[Shannon]

Looks like I'm looking at Colin Chandler right now.

[Matt Jones]

That's exactly right.

[Drew]

I don't know what UK gave him, but I want what they gave him last night because he was awesome.

[Matt Jones]

Cornbread hemp sleep gummies.

[Drew]

Yeah, that works.

[Matt Jones]

That works. And you got to get the temperature situation in your room. That was what I recommended.

[Drew]

Well, pass it on to the rest of the guys on the team because if they play better the way he played last night, we all need it.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so let's talk about. We, we talk about the positives. Couple troubling things. Still a huge drop off when they go to Garrison. Diabate and plus minus. I actually thought Diabate just watching had some decent minutes. But like if you have a team that has a dude like why am I keep forgetting his name? Who, who scored all the points? Wayne Twain Swain. That's the kind of guy Diabate is here to guard. And if he's still scoring like, or you don't even put him on him. There is a point. Like, what are you doing? I think Moreno and yellow bitch were like plus 16, plus 17. Diabate and in Garrison were minus 8. That's a little worrisome.

[Shannon]

Yeah. And the Swain was really good at drawing fouls. Got a bunch on Marino. He got a lot of his points at the line too. That dude was tough. He was hitting threes going to the stripe. Kentucky didn't really have anything for him last night, but luckily he shut down. Mark didn't have a great game and then the big dude put up some big numbers. But he wasn't very efficient as he normally is.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So let's talk about now what you lose Cam Williams for the year to a foot injury. You know, I guess there's a chance he could come back. Somebody was telling me if it's a full break, he can't. If it's just a fracture, it could be four to six weeks. The coaches were kind of sounding like it's the fracture, but they also weren't saying he was going to come back. I, I have to say I, I'm gonna, I go on record as I, I've hated how these last two staffs handle the injuries. Just sitting here making fans speculate. It's not fair to the kids, it's not fair to Jaden Quaint's right now that every game people don't know if he's gonna, if he's gonna come back. It's not fair that people speculate that he's not going to come back. And if he's not going to come back, why are you getting the fans hopes up that he is going to come back. They should just say things regardless. They don't. I'm going to assume Cam's not playing. I just think that's easier to do. It stinks because we can use him. And when he's hitting threes, he's a hugely valuable resource. Let's assume he's not going to play. Do you consider another player Whether that is the red shirt on your team who was like the 35th ranked recruit in America at one point and plays Cam's position. Is it roll Trent Noah out 20 minutes a game from 0 to 20 or is it look to the G league there's a guy named Dink who's got the same haircut and general build as Cam Williams and was at one point a big time recruit. What are you doing?

[Drew]

Yeah, I heard your postgame last night. Learned a lot about Dink last night on the post game. To me that you know how I feel about it just doesn't smell right. But if the rules allow it, why not pursue it? If you're asking me which what I would do, I go give no other shot first, Hawthorne second, Dink third.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. What about you?

[Shannon]

I would entertain the Dink idea. Just because there's no rules. I mean I don't like that there's no rules, but everybody else is doing it. I mean what do you want him to go somewhere else and play? I mean yeah, I mean if he could do it.

[Matt Jones]

But I do. What if he just goes and plays in Tennessee? I mean what were you doing?

[Shannon]

Yeah, I do worry about chemistry, but he's.

[Matt Jones]

But he's friends of Brandon Garrison, same agent and his. Or see me agent with Brandon Garrison. Really good friends with Jasper.

[Drew]

Jasper.

[Shannon]

So that's right. I do think you have to consider Hawthorne whatever happens. I know he's thin. We saw him at the pro day. You can see him in warnup warm ups. He needs to put on a lot of weight. But he was the 30th ranked freshman in this class. I mean there's 30th ranked freshmen make plays every year and he's you know, knows the system been in practice. I hate it that he would have to lose his red shirt. But whatever. Red shirts don't really exist now anyway. Feels like that guy's got to be capable of doing something.

[Nav Green]

I don't know.

[Shannon]

I don't know he's going to change anything. But at least let him see what he has.

[Matt Jones]

I mean so part of it is Pope has information I do not have. Which is how good is he in practice? Right. Like I've not seen him play ever. So it's. I'm just completely guessing. But if he is at all helpful in practice, then play.

[Shannon]

He's right there.

[Matt Jones]

He's right there.

[Drew]

He knows.

[Matt Jones]

And he's exactly what he's exactly. Now what we need.

[Drew]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

Does is it. Would you like to have played him earlier in the year? Sure. But you know what? It is what it is. So I say playing if the only way, I do not burn that red shirt. Because if a kid is that good, he ain't gonna be in college five years anyway. If the kids. If he's not, if he cannot play, if you genuinely don't think he can play, okay, then I say go get the Dink because I could go into it, but I think it'd be boring. Radio There are three cases. There's the Baylor kid case. There's the kid yesterday at Alabama and there's Dink. The Baylor kid has the best argument. He didn't sign any deal with any NBA team he played, but he wasn't on an NBA contract. It was a G league contract. He has the easiest deal. The NCAA has already approved him by the way. He stinks. We all got worked up over a guy who's not even good. The Alabama kid has the worst argument because he signed a 10 day contract, but he also signed a two way contract which is an official. You are part of an NBA team. The NCAA is going to fight his because they want that to be the distinction. So he has the worst argument. Dink's arguments in between. He did not sign a two way deal, but he also didn't sign nothing. He signed a 10 day deal which is you're with the NBA team for 10 days but he never went there. So he's kind of in the middle. The NCAA probably would not like to have him either, but they see that differently than they do the Alabama kids. So the, the NCAA is gonna spend the money on the Alabama fight and the Alabama fight. If that kid gets in, then Deke will definitely get in. So if I'm Pope, I'm like, why don't we bring him in? Let's have him here for a week. In a week we're going to know if the Alabama kid wins or not. And if he does, he's on the team. That's how I would do. I don't know if that's how Pope would do it, but that's how I would do it.

[Drew]

And then you could possibly retain him even for next year. You got it.

[Matt Jones]

That I think his plan is to play college basketball next year. So if you bring him in, you get a 10, you get a six week look to see if you want this kid on your team next year. Now Jacob Polachek says he doesn't think it's that likely. So we, I'm not going to spend a ton of time on it, but I would say if you don't want to do it, don't do it for basketball reasons. But if it's somehow moral reasons, that's absurd to me because if they're going to let these guys play, Drew, we need them.

[Shannon]

Yeah, they got Alabama went much farther and he is expected to play on Saturday.

[Matt Jones]

So yeah, the Alabama sky if he is allowed to play then there's then the Dink kids going to play because the Alabama guys, they got the worst argument and he may get to play as well.

[Shannon]

Dink's been intentionally not signing stuff, hoping he could have this move.

[Matt Jones]

859-280-2287. We'll take a break be back here at KS Bars Kentucky Sports Radio.

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[Jacob Goldstein]

The calculation was that there was some number of Americans who were ready for something different, who were ready for something that was counter to the culture, if you will. Perfect timing decade of the 1960s.

[Podcast Narrator 2]

Listen to Business History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and watch episodes on YouTube.

[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes. Rumors not so Accurate stats and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy, Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast? Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here, but guess it ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Another team who ain't going to the playoffs. The Chiefs.

[Matt Jones]

What's a wrap?

[Nav Green]

It's time to rebuild.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

Who?

[Nav Green]

Your MVP right now, Then Drake May up there. Josh Allen up there still.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, my boy, Matthew Stafford. Where did Bo Nicks at? He ain't too far behind. He did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy.

[Nav Green]

Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Matt Jones]

Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

You know Roald Dahl, the writer who thought up Willy Wonka, Matilda, and the bfg. But did you know he was also a spy?

[Podcast Narrator 1]

Was this before he wrote his stories?

[Matt Jones]

It must have been.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

Our new podcast series, the Secret World of Roald Dahl is a wild journey through the hidden chapters of his extraordinary, controversial life. His job was literally to seduce the wives of powerful Americans.

[Podcast Narrator 2]

What?

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

And he was really good at it. You probably won't believe it either.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, I don't think that's true.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

I'm telling you, the guy was a spy. Did you know Dahl got cozy with the Roosevelts, played poker with Harry Truman, and had a long affair with a congresswoman? And then he took his talents to Hollywood, where he worked alongside Walt Disney and Alfred Hitchcock before writing a hit James Bond film. How did this secret agent wind up as the most successful children's author ever? And what darkness from his covert past seeped into the stories we read as kids? The true story is stranger than anything he ever wrote. Listen to the Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. Hour number two. Or, no, it's not hour number two. Segment number two here on Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. One person says Pope compared Hawthorne to Prince. If he's like Prince, then he can play his first year. Yeah, I mean, I. I genuinely do think, like, if you're. If you're somebody who could be a star, then you can get minutes as a freshman. Whether or not you're gonna change the team, but we're gonna need them. We have four perimeter players for five for. Excuse me, five perimeter players for three spots, and one of them hadn't played most of the year. Trent. No. So you get a guy in foul trouble, like, like, then you, you, you got to make a switch. You know, what If Aberdeen gets 2000 the first four minutes of a game, you just could sit there and say, well, we lose. I mean, you're going to have to have another guy. So I'm, I'm. To me. And then at the three spot, you're really hurting. It's either play Colin Chandler and undersized three, play Noah, who's not really played all year, or bring in three bigs. And we don't look good with two bigs. So three is like a whole thing. So I think you gotta. You almost have to have somebody.

[Drew]

I think they really like Brandon Hawthorne. I think we got to see him at pro day training and we got to see him at practice that one day. I think they just feel like we know we're going to red shirt him, get some muscle on him, get some beef on him, and he'll be an integral part of our recruiting class next year. Like, you know, this is a way to kind of get a head start on next year. But right now, if you need a way to play. He knows the system. He's obviously practices with him every day. We're going to have to learn anything. Go. Go for it.

[Matt Jones]

One person writes, pope is not going to get a G leaguer. Did you hear his comments after the game? I did hear his comments. And, and, and I thought they were wildly bad. He said that the NCAA should just not allow a team in the tournament that takes a guy like this. No, If I'm the NCAA's legal counsel, do not do that. Because if a court forces Alabama to play, then if the NCAA doesn't blame the court is inter. The NCAA is interfering with a court order.

[Drew]

That's not good.

[Matt Jones]

That's dumb. Like, no, no, Mark, talk to a lawyer before you suggest advice like that. Now, the judge may overturn his order next week. So that's, That's a different situation. But no, shouldn't do that. It is. If you heard his comments, Drew, you would think, well, he's not going to add a G leaguer. However, they did contact this guy yesterday.

[Drew]

That's what I heard you say last night on the show.

[Matt Jones]

So if they contacted the G leaguer yesterday, there's got to be some interest. Makes his Comments even weirder to me that night. Or maybe they just contacted him and thought, well, we don't want to do that. But.

[Shannon]

But it is Reaches out and poor.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Why'd you do that? We don't need him.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So, you know, who knows? But I did think that was odd.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

We're talking about Pope.

[Shannon]

I honestly don't see Mitch Barnhart being high on doing this because we know he's not high on how things have transformed from the old way. And to bring in a G league or mid season, that doesn't seem like something he would sign off on.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I don't care what he thinks.

[Shannon]

I'm just saying I just don't see UK doing it.

[Matt Jones]

I just think I, I. No offense to Mitch Barnhart, but like, your plan hasn't worked. When it's come to a couple years ago going well, you know there's going to be legislation and that's what, like no legislation's been passed. I think, you know, starting in June, everybody is trying to get reelected. So nothing's going to pass after June, there feels like there's no momentum, especially since it's very likely the House of Representative changes parties. That's going to make things even less likely to pass. So they're just. We just have to assume nothing's gonna pass. So if you don't want the kids, you don't want him. But I hope it's not for moral reasons, because that seems dumb to me.

[Shannon]

I'm just saying, of all the schools, UK doesn't seem one that's high on the list of places go out seeking this.

[Matt Jones]

But do you think that's smart if.

[Drew]

The rules allow you to do it? You gotta, I guess, pursue an opportunity like that.

[Matt Jones]

I just don't understand. I. And then I'll shut up about this. I don't know why people act like this is so bad. We've been taking pros for 15 years. It's just they were from Europe and we don't go there. But yellow bitch. There is zero difference between yellowch and pate.0. They both signed the equivalent of the same contract with a pro team. Why do we look at one differently? Because they're in a country we don't live in. Make America great at basketball again. Don't make our players have more barriers than their players. Why would you do that? Why would you say if you grow up in a foreign country and you sign with a foreign basketball professional team, you're good?

[Shannon]

Come.

[Matt Jones]

If you grow up with America and you sign up with a Minor league pro basketball team. You're out. Why? What is the rational argument for that?

[Shannon]

There's not.

[Drew]

There's not.

[Shannon]

Your boy Cal brought that up in his big rant too. He was like, if you're an American, you're being punished for.

[Matt Jones]

You are being punished for being American. Like, I'm not signing on to all the philosophy in the greater perspective. But in this, I think we can all agree we shouldn't make it worse for Americans. Right. They should at least be equal to the foreign players. Why would we make it worse?

[Shannon]

I think you're right that there's just. No one's keeping up. I mean, I watched Yellow Vicious run in the playoffs after we'd already signed him last year. 40 year olds.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean, when Enos Cantor was trying to play, I didn't hear any of our fan base going, you know, it's just not fair for him to play. We all wanted him to play. Absolutely. Okay, American Ennis Cantor is here and his name is Dink. Dink Peyton.

[Shannon]

Go easy to put on the jersey.

[Matt Jones]

Let's just say his name is Ernest Cantor instead of Enos. Let's do it.

[Drew]

I want him just so we can call have a player by the name of Dink.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. We were talking about. I learned yet last night. Kentucky's had a player named Dink before. Our quarterback in 1972 was named Dinky McKay. His stat line is amazing. 89 yards rushing. He was the quarterback. 874 yards passing. Sounds pretty good, right, Shannon? Let me give you the bad part of the stat line. Yeah. One touchdown, 15 interceptions. At least he's consistent at throwing to the other team. So that's why we struggled that year. We'll be right back. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney.

[Shannon]

Call tj.

[Matt Jones]

He'll make him pay. Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. Yeah, tell him. Tell him, Shannon. That's right. That's right. I'm not going to forget the men who died. I want Dick Pate to get that right. That was given to him gladly. Stand up. Yes. And play for Kentucky and make some threes.

[Drew]

What was your order of Trent Hawthorne?

[Matt Jones]

I go, Braden Hawthorne. If Braden can play. He's my number one thing because he's already on the team. And I really don't understand the point of red shirting a guy with a lot of talent. Right. So I'm. So for me. And if the NCAA makes the rule, which I think they're going to make, which is you have five years to play Five. Then the red shirt isn't going to count anyway. Right? He's already started his five. So he's. So all these reasons make Hawthorne the most obvious. Then for me, second would be Dink. It's nothing against Trent Noah, but my view about Trent Noah and I love him and I want him to be a star and I hope he kills it. But if Trent Noah was what part Mark Pope thought he'd already be playing. Right. So that's. So that's why it's. That's the third. Now if Mark thinks he can play and then he does, then he's second. But that's the way I look.

[Drew]

I wonder what they saw in him. The season started when he was starting and playing a lot of minutes before he got hurt.

[Matt Jones]

I think Mark and I think he'll set. This is my guess. I bet he says this at the end of the year when we interview him. I bet he will say some version of he just read this team completely wrong and he had one vision of this team that probably included Trent Noah and then he had to switch the visions of it. That's. That's what I'm going to guess he says. Do you agree?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

And all summer he kept talking about how big the freshman to sophomore jump is, especially in his system and how he coaches them. And maybe we're seeing a little of that at Chandler, but it's very obvious Noah did not make that jump that I think Mark Pope was counting on him to make. Whether that's on Pope or whatever. But he kept talking about how second year players are so much better under him.

[Matt Jones]

Garrison and Noah did not. Oa, I think is similar to what he was. Chandler didn't at first but seems to be making it now. Is that fair to say?

[Shannon]

Yeah, he's. He's seemed to have turned a corner here lately.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

And playing like we thought he would have all year when the season started.

[Matt Jones]

859-280-2287 One person writes Matt with 12 games left. Considering the schedule now, how many do you think they win out of these 12? There's their 4 and 2 tied for second in the SEC with Texas A and M in Florida only one game ahead. How many games do we win in the last 12?

[Drew]

And when you look at the last 12, you realize how hard this is going to be. That's a tough, tough go. So I mean honestly, if they, if they split them six and six, I think I probably would be happy.

[Matt Jones]

I think you should scream to the Hilltops with joy if they go Six and six. Yeah, but go ahead. What about you?

[Shannon]

Yeah, it's six and six would be good, considering what's ahead. That's what I was going to say. But I'll admit, if I had to pick either five or seven, I'm probably picking five.

[Matt Jones]

Just. I was going to pick.

[Shannon]

It's a tough road.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going to pick five. And I actually think if Mark gets five, he still gets a D as general manager, but I think it would be a B as a coach, if he can get five with this group. If you had told me that when we start SEC play, we will not have Jaden Quaintance or Jalen Lowe or Cam Williams, I would have said to you, we're winning three games. So if he could get to nine, which is what five would be, I actually think as a coaching job, that's pretty good. As a GM job, it's still pretty bad. But as a coaching job, I actually think it would be pretty good that.

[Drew]

Get him in the tournament.

[Matt Jones]

Five certainly gets him in the tournament. Four maybe gets him in the tournament. Three does not. That's the way I look at it. Nine and nine, you're in eight and 10, you're probably in seven and what, 11 you're not.

[Drew]

You gotta win Saturday, old man.

[Matt Jones]

Saturday gotta be Oklahoma at home, you know, however long we win that game. Then they play at South Carolina. South Carolina's pretty bad.

[Drew]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

And then you just hope you win one of the home games against the good teams. Georgia, Vandy, Tennessee again. You got to hope you win Florida. You got to hope you win one of those at home. And you can win. You can.

[Drew]

You can. Absolutely.

[Matt Jones]

You can. You can win, though.

[Shannon]

Just be Tennessee and Knoxville. Why can't you beat them?

[Matt Jones]

Why can't you? All right, who's up first? Isaiah. Isaiah, go ahead.

[Caller]

Hey, just a couple things to think about with Mark Pope. Everybody was kind of getting ready to, you know, say he's not ready for the job. Not doesn't get demand for the job. But. So if. If one of these two things don't happen, we don't get Dent or Hawthorne doesn't remove his red shirt, I think a lot of people will be upset. And if, you know, if we do one of those two things, I think it builds up some goodwill, especially for Bart Pope.

[Drew]

If.

[Caller]

If it goes well. Another thing to think about is if we do get this Dink guy, I think if we don't start to kill it in the recruiting area, that is kind of like a safety net. Mark Pope, you know, if we can go get these G League guys, you know, say they're not all stars to go to the NBA, but they're at least decent college players. I think that could be very.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that's a great point and I appreciate the call. Remember, I don't think there will be G League guys in the future. I think this G League thing is like the next year or two because I think most of these dudes are going to go to college now because they can get paid. The guys went to the G League because they couldn't get paid. Now they can get paid. So I think they're going to college. It's an interesting point though, Drew. If you took him and you got him to stay till next year, it helps you with the fact that you've been striking out in recruiting, right? Yeah.

[Shannon]

If you can get him commit to being a full time player next season. I mean that's like going out and getting a five star in this class. You know, that's a dude that's putting up 18 a game in the G League. I would make that equivalent of a five star coming out of high school.

[Drew]

But maybe that's how you recruit him. Recruiting for a year and a half. We want you for a year and a half.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. 592-80-2287 it's interesting, Shannon. Phone lines are, are empty. Well, when we win. No, but you know, when we win, you, when you lose, everybody wants, you know, the misery. Yeah, I mean, I, we, I want us to win because you do get more listeners when you win, but you oddly get less calls, which I think is a weird, it's a weird thing. They want to talk weather.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

A lot of people want me to just switch it to weather, but I'm, this is a UK basketball show. This is not a weather show. I think a lot of people wish it was a weather show. Next hour it will be. And I think I probably make my point about why we don't stick to sports by the feedback we've gotten on the weather thing. Like, I got more comments about my segment talking about the weather people yesterday, including from people who don't know who any of these people are. So I do think we do weather well, probably better than we do sports.

[Shannon]

Well, I have a lot of friends that listen to the show and they don't text me, hey, I can't wait for your Texas breakdown. But this morning it's all, we're so pumped for weather talk today. Like, everybody's all in on the weather talk.

[Matt Jones]

Can I give you one Hint on the weather.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I'm hearing through the grapevine that there's already been one prominent weather person telling folks, friends of them theirs that they will not participate. And I will say to you with love, because I'm. I'm coming with love. I'm not coming with hate. Sure.

[Drew]

Loving your heart.

[Matt Jones]

Whether, whether affects us all does. Right. Whether you decide to be part of this or not, I think it's important for people to know are you going to be. Are you willing to put your prediction where your mouth is if you refuse to participate? I think you are saying to the American people, at least the ones in Kentucky, I don't stand by my weather. And if you don't succeed, that's okay. We all make mistakes. But do we pick the scores of every game?

[Shannon]

Yes. And we're never see Mario's yesterday he put that on a graphic and put it on the Internet.

[Matt Jones]

Video still exists of me saying we can go nine and three and make the playoff in the foot in football and. And people in the video of me saying to Tyson Chicken, thank you, Tyson Chicken. Do you know how many Arkansas people send me that video? Mario, that's on you. But it stay, it stays with me. I feel like weather people should have that happen as well. And it's all for fun. And you might be literally looking at the charity of your choice, looking it in the eye and saying you don't deserve any money. That's what you're doing by not participating.

[Drew]

That's why I think this, the, the, the peer pressure now of the other weather guys all stepping up and doing it for their charity. You want to be the one guy that's not going to step up and do it for your charity.

[Matt Jones]

Mario, by the way, is creating a graphic today that as we get the predictions in, we will have check marks or X's.

[Drew]

Okay, so not the predictions, just whether they're participating.

[Matt Jones]

No, because I don't want to give anybody the head start. So if like somebody call, does nine and a half inches at first, you don't need other people to be able to plot theirs around.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So I'm not putting the predictions out until I get in all predictions.

[Drew]

What are they due?

[Matt Jones]

Well, we can talk about it. I'm thinking noon tomorrow. I mean they gotta be done by noon tomorrow. Gives people a chance to get their final models in.

[Shannon]

The morning models are always good.

[Matt Jones]

The morning model, clear skies, they can send them in. But the key is today I'm going to get commitments to predict. So the first thing Mario is going to Be doing the check is. Did you commit to predict?

[Shannon]

Well, can you tell us our. We already have a Notre Dame here that's opting out. Are they Louisville or Lexington? Can you hint?

[Matt Jones]

I'm not. I'm not. I haven't gotten the word from them. I don't want to put their pressure on. I can tell you who has already opted in.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

The first yes I got was by far the biggest star. Ryan Hall, y'. All. Oh, y' all was the first yes. He ain't scared. Ryan Hall, y' all committed on Twitter. I've had one commit to me privately. But we have to decide whether or not they're in. And then we, the public, you, the listener, have to help us get these people in. Right. It's going to be you that makes them do it.

[Drew]

The peer pressure.

[Matt Jones]

But first we have to decide who we invite. And that's a conversation for a living.

[Shannon]

Okay, Good tease.

[Matt Jones]

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[Drew]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I was very excited. Somebody sent me something that said, matt, you got nominated for best radio host in Lexington. And I was like, oh, that's very nice. Let's go look at the contestants. There were 14 other contestants. Are there 15 radio shows in Lexington?

[Shannon]

I can't name any.

[Drew]

Not local probably.

[Matt Jones]

Well, there are at least 14 other ones besides.

[Shannon]

Wow, did they count? Fine. Bomb.

[Matt Jones]

It was like. It was people I didn't know. It was like Alan Cutler's cousin. It was just. It was just anybody. So it was. It was nice to be nominated, but I feel like all you have to do is be on the radio.

[Shannon]

A lot of competition, though.

[Matt Jones]

Ryan, you were not nominated.

[Drew]

Well, I'm hoping to be. You and Shannon, the dude. You're my two favorite Lexington radio personality.

[Matt Jones]

You get the news from him. We'll take a break and be right back. This is KSR.

[Podcast Narrator 1]

On June 11, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's department went missing. It's an all out manhunt for John Ajay. Every search and rescue team in LA county has been called in to help. Within days tips started flooding into the sheriff's department. They ruler around the drug scene was that a deputy was taken care of. Is this the story of a man who just got lost in the desert? Or of a cover up inside the nation's largest sheriff's department?

[Podcast Narrator 2]

A homicide captain saying detective, do not.

[Drew]

Find out if this guy's guilty or innocent.

[Matt Jones]

Who does that?

[Podcast Narrator 1]

Valley of Shadows, a new series from Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert. Do you have any advice for us while looking into this disappearance?

[Matt Jones]

I wouldn't do it alone.

[Podcast Narrator 1]

Listen to Valley of shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jacob Goldstein]

The Volkswagen Beetle started out as Hitler's dream car. It wound up as a beloved hippie icon and the best selling car of all time.

[Matt Jones]

How did that happen?

[Jacob Goldstein]

I'm Jacob Goldstein.

[Podcast Narrator 2]

And I'm Robert Smith. On business history, we tell the surprising stories behind the inventions and entrepreneurs that shaped our economy.

[Jacob Goldstein]

And the story of the Beatle is truly surprising. It has so much in it. It has Nazis, it has the German economic miracle.

[Podcast Narrator 2]

And it features one of the most famous ads of all time. An ad that really redefined what advertising was in the United States.

[Jacob Goldstein]

The calculation was that there was some number of Americans who were ready for something different, who were ready for something that was counter to the culture, if you will.

[Podcast Narrator 2]

Perfect timing.

[Jacob Goldstein]

In the decade of the 1960s.

[Podcast Narrator 2]

Listen to Business History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and watch episodes on YouTube.

[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. The Chiefs.

[Matt Jones]

What's a wrap?

[Nav Green]

It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now then Drake May up there. Josh Allen up there still.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, my boy Matthew Stafford. Where did Bo Nicks at? He ain't too far behind. He did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro is crazy.

[Nav Green]

Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Matt Jones]

Hey, he should be in that Conversation in what conversation?

[Nav Green]

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

You know Roald Dahl, the raider who thought up Willy Wonka, Matilda, and the bfg. But did you know he was also a spy?

[Podcast Narrator 1]

Was this before he wrote his stories?

[Matt Jones]

It must have been.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

Our new podcast series, The Secret World of Roald Dahl is a wild journey through the hidden chapters of his extraordinary, controversial life. His job was literally to seduce the wives of powerful Americans.

[Shannon]

What?

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

And he was really good at it. You probably won't believe it either.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, I don't think that's true.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

I'm telling you, the guy was a spy. Did you know Dahl got cozy with the Roosevelts, played poker with Harry Truman, and had a long affair with a congresswoman? And then he took his talents to Hollywood, where he worked alongside Walt Disney and Alfred Hitchcock before writing a hit James Bond film. How did this secret agent wind up as the most successful children's author ever? And what darkness from his covert past seeped into the stories we read as kids? The true story is stranger than anything he ever wrote. Listen to the Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so there were actually many more nominations than I realized. Shannon and Drew also nominated for best radio host.

[Drew]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Shannon]

It's an honor.

[Matt Jones]

Mario nominated for best Influencer in Lexington.

[Shannon]

He's so influential.

[Matt Jones]

Mario, can I read you the other nominees for best Influencer? This is your competition. Bradley Marlowe. I think I've seen him.

[Shannon]

I've seen him.

[Matt Jones]

He's like a culture guy. Erica Bivens. Gathered Living glitter and gingham. Gotta beat them.

[Shannon]

I know them.

[Matt Jones]

Kentucky taste buds. I know them.

[Shannon]

Know them.

[Matt Jones]

Landon Marsh. Don't know him. Lex eats. Don't know him. Lexington latest. Don't know him. Lexington. Four littles. Maria Montgomery. You're gonna have a hard time with her. You don't. I don't think you dress saucy enough to compete with Maria Montgomery. Marie McLam from Bluegrass Blog. Mario. Maitland Mitchell. Christian Designs. Porky's Picks. What's Porky's Picks?

[Drew]

I do not know.

[Matt Jones]

Sasson in the bluegrass. And Whitney Pinell. There you go.

[Shannon]

Follow several of those.

[Matt Jones]

And then finally, the number one category. Best Lex and Tony.

[Drew]

I want to hear the nominees.

[Matt Jones]

Ada Lemon.

[Drew]

Don't know.

[Matt Jones]

It's got your same last name.

[Drew]

Definitely not my family.

[Matt Jones]

Amanda Matthews. She's a Sculptor. Chef. Oita Michelle. Nope.

[Shannon]

It's got a bunch of restaurants.

[Matt Jones]

Craig Skinner. Craig Skinner. Hey.

[Podcast Narrator 2]

Hey.

[Matt Jones]

Fred Mills, the manager of the Kentucky Theater. Mark Pope.

[Drew]

Mark Pope. Heard of him.

[Matt Jones]

Matt Jones.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Steve Zahn. Okay. Tanya Poindexter. Walter Tunis. Will Stein. He's already nominated. He just got here.

[Drew]

He's living in an area he's already.

[Matt Jones]

One of our best. Lexington. He's probably been here six days. Really? Come. Was he already the best lexing? He just got here.

[Shannon]

Does he even have a house yet?

[Matt Jones]

And Wiley Caudell, painter.

[Shannon]

He does the blue roses.

[Matt Jones]

How can I'm. For all those shaded. Except Will Stein. I mean, come on. I mean, come on. You gotta let Oregon. You got.

[Shannon]

He has an Oregon driver's license.

[Matt Jones]

Gotta let him be here for a couple weeks.

[Shannon]

Yeah. I think you need to have a permanent Kentucky address, bare minimum, to be the best license.

[Matt Jones]

He doesn't even have a license yet. He can't be doing that.

[Drew]

They're living in an Airbnb. But he is the biggest UK basketball fan, so maybe that does qualify him.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, we'll see about that. 859-280-2287. Who's up first? Shannon. Deke. Deke. Go ahead, Deke.

[Caller]

What's up, guys? Hey, I just want to ask, has anybody noticed Moreno's lucky charm he's had last four games?

[Shannon]

I already know what you're gonna say.

[Caller]

The same shirt.

[Shannon]

Yep.

[Caller]

Because it has the same stain or.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, whatever it is, that is very noticeable by you. One other person brought that up to me on the post game show. Drew, you said you noticed it, too. He has the same stain on his shirt.

[Shannon]

It's. It's a black spot, almost like. Remember when Jalen Brown got his hair on a. It's like a big black thing on his sleeve, and it's been there for four games.

[Matt Jones]

So you're saying Moreno's T shirt. It must be a lucky shirt because he's not washing the stain off.

[Shannon]

I hope it's for luck because last night I was telling people we are in Nike school. How do we have one undershirt per player? But if it is lucky and he's been on a good run, that's different.

[Drew]

I.

[Matt Jones]

He might be taking the view. Shannon, of former WWE wrestler Vader, who would not wrestle his. He would not clean his tight.

[Drew]

He was so stinky.

[Matt Jones]

Everybody, nobody and no one wanted to wrestle him because he smelled so bad. And he used that as his intimidation. Maybe Moreno's doing the same with the T shirt. Don't wash It. It'll help people not stay off him, you know?

[Drew]

Well, I would say stay with it because he's playing great. He had another good game last night. We have six assists last night as the big man.

[Matt Jones]

So I think we have to see in the Ole Miss game, does he come out with the same stain on his shirt? Appreciate the call.

[Shannon]

Yeah, I'm glad the caller brought that up. Almost led with that over the big guy being the worst person I've ever seen play basketball. I want to say it's the. I'm playing my mind. I think it's the right sleeve right.

[Drew]

Underneath, like, kind of the armpit over there.

[Shannon]

Yeah, it's kind of like. It's kind of the side here. It's a big spot. And I noticed it right away last night thinking, how do we not have laundry at uk? But maybe he's just feeling well in that.

[Matt Jones]

I like it. Maybe it's a lucky shirt. Who's next? Matt. Matt. Go ahead, Matt.

[Caller]

Hey, good morning. So is. Make America great at basketball again? Is that Maba Magab.

[Matt Jones]

Make America make. No. Make American basketball. Mag. Mabga. Make American basketball great again. It's hard for me to say because it goes against my entire core to say those letters, but Mabga.

[Caller]

All right, so my real question is this. What does the annexation of Greenland do to the landscape of Greenland?

[Shannon]

Basketball.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. They don't have. They don't have a lot of basketball players there. I don't think so. I appreciate the call. I don't think that'll help a lot. I'm serious, though, about these. It shows you how much old heads about college basketball freak out about nothing. By the overreaction to that Baylor kid, Everybody lost their minds about that Baylor kid. And he is. He's averaging like, four points a game, and it's like the ninth. Man, why did it matter so much to people?

[Shannon]

Because this is just so chaotic. And that just. Just the feel of now, we're just letting pros come in. It already feels weird, but they're not good. That's so new.

[Matt Jones]

Now, maybe this Alabama kid will be good, but I don't think he's gonna be good, too.

[Shannon]

A G League player come to college. I can see why people would think, what in hell's going on?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I use the example, Ryan, you're a member of the 88 basketball team, the 88 Olympic team, where we kept sending college guys to the Olympics. And then eventually, when the other team start sending their pros, we lost, and we had to start sending our pros too. Like, isn't that just the way things happen?

[Drew]

That what that led to the dream team in 92 because we got to be with them. We got, like, the bronze medal.

[Matt Jones]

Remember how much people went crazy about, oh, we shouldn't do pros? And then the Dream Team is now considered one of the coolest things that happened in sports.

[Drew]

Like I said, it doesn't pass the smell test with me. But if the rules allow it, why wouldn't you pursue it if you like, if they another player goes down, Kentucky's gonna have to replenish the rock.

[Matt Jones]

Well, there's a very good chance with 12 games to go that there's gonna be a guy get hurt. Now, they might only sit out a game or two, but we're gonna have people in 12 games. Someone's gonna get hurt.

[Drew]

So an ankle or something.

[Matt Jones]

It's gonna be even more necessary we do this right.

[Shannon]

Is. I don't mean to be that guy, but let's say someone add someone two weeks again. Like, is school even. Like, are we pretending anymore?

[Matt Jones]

Drop ad. Is Friday okay? Just drop ads.

[Shannon]

I'm not someone that had a lot great attendance myself, but, you know, there is semester.

[Matt Jones]

It's always been interesting to me. Miss. Mr. I took English 101 three times. That. You're the one that always brings up class.

[Shannon]

Oh, I failed. Dinosaurs. Disasters pass. Fail. Like, I'm not one to talk about going to class. I'm just saying, as far as putting people on a college team and February, at least there's a charade.

[Matt Jones]

Do you feel dinosaurs and disasters is like the final, how are dinosaurs doing now? And you were like, great.

[Shannon]

It wasn't the dinosaurs that got me. I was good on it. The disasters both. I should have split it up. Taking them both at once was.

[Matt Jones]

The disasters is too hard for you. I understand. All right. We'll talk about the weather challenge next here on ksr.