2026-01-28- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

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Kentucky Sports Radio – Hour 2 (January 28, 2026)

Host: Matt Jones

Panel: Ryan Lemond, Shannon Dawson

Producer/Station: iHeartPodcasts / Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM)

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Main Theme

This episode of Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) covers a range of sports and lifestyle topics, rooted in UK (University of Kentucky) basketball’s struggles, Deion Sanders' new policy at Colorado, social media trolling between college sports teams, and a running debate on friendships between men and women. As usual, the tone is playful, opinionated, and interactive, with calls from listeners and back-and-forth banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kentucky Basketball: Recent Loss and Tournament Chances

• The show kicks off with reactions to Kentucky’s loss to Vanderbilt, with Matt Jones assuring listeners that the defeat won’t "spoil our day" and that many local schools are still out due to icy weather.
• The panel discusses the Cats' tournament prospects, agreeing Kentucky still has a chance, but stressing the need for more big wins.
  • Matt Jones: “Yes, but you know, not certain. But I'm still going to say yes.” (05:06)
  • Ryan Lemond: "They're going to have to steal some of these wins… Right now they have one good win. Tennessee. That's it. Nothing else." (05:12)
• They debate the quality of Kentucky’s résumé, noting victories over Tennessee, St. John’s, Indiana, and Texas, but expressing concern over blowout losses that could hurt in selection.

2. Weather & School Cancellations

• Ongoing discussion about hazardous road conditions in Lexington and Louisville ("ice is so bad on the neighborhood streets") and resulting school closures.
• Anecdotes about Mississippi’s shutdown between Oxford and Memphis ("so many cars were wrecking"), and Ole Miss canceling classes for three days.

3. College Basketball Social Media Trolling

• Vanderbilt’s social media account trolled Kentucky after their win, using a reworked version of a Matt Jones tweet.
  • Matt Jones: “I liked it. I mean, that's kind of the new thing in social media, teams doing that. I thought it was good.” (15:18)
  • Shannon Dawson: "You don’t get to claim Vanderbilt's win, Tennessee." (16:22)
• General discussion on rival fans’ behavior on social media following games—particularly Tennessee and Arkansas fans.

4. Deion Sanders' $500 Fine for Colorado Players

• Discussion of Deion Sanders announcing a $500 fine for college football players at Colorado if they’re late to practice.
  • Ryan Lemond: “I love it… as their parent, as their coach, [Dion] is going to find something to hurt them... What hurts you more than take some of your money?” (10:21)
  • Matt Jones: “I'm not against it in theory… Most of the time to do this, when they do this in the NBA, it's part of the collective bargaining agreement… There's no contract that says he can do this.” (11:19)
• The group debates whether the fines are enforceable or could backfire in recruiting ("does it hurt you in recruiting, Shannon, if you go to a school where you could get fined?").

5. Friendships Between Men and Women ("Lunch with Other Men’s Wives")

• Matt recounts being friends with multiple women (including exes) and regularly having lunch with married women, sparking debate about boundaries and comfort.
  • Matt Jones: “I'm friends with all of my exes for the most part... I can't be mad if I do that, Shannon. I can't be mad if people did that with my wife or girlfriend.” (06:42)
  • Ryan Lemond: “I just think it's a little... disrespectful to yoga girl. If I'm having lunch with another woman...” (31:10)
  • Shannon Dawson: “If she's going out, I'M going too.” (25:13)
• The conversation evolves into whether men and women can be friends, levels of jealousy, and trust in relationships.
  • Notable Quote: “Don't be nervous. Don't be like Ryan. Be like Matt and Billy. Not Ryan and Shannon.” (43:30)

6. Listener Call-in: Personal Announcement for "Scotty"

• Unique moment: Matt announces, at the request of a listener’s wife, that “Scotty” is going to be a father—a live, on-air surprise.
  • Matt Jones: “Scotty, congratulations. Your wife wanted to surprise you. You are becoming a father.” (08:50)
  • Ryan Lemond: “Scotty's had a moment of panic all across the bluegrass today.” (13:42)

7. College Sports Hall of Fame Grievances

• Matt rails against Hall of Fame voting processes in all major sports, citing Belichick’s snub, the moralizing of baseball’s Hall of Fame, and the overly inclusive basketball Hall.
  • Matt Jones: “If you're not going to let Bill Belichick... why are you going to have a Hall of Fame?” (36:03)

8. Light-hearted Banter & Listener Questions

• Panel quizzes Matt on starting mechanical equipment: weed eaters, lawnmowers, motorcycles, leaf blowers, etc.—he admits to being generally “mechanically challenged.”
  • Matt Jones: “If there's anything else you have to do, I wouldn't.” [about starting tractors] (27:51)
• Laughs over memorabilia with the “forbidden tongue” logo, including calls about T-shirts, pillowcases, and odd memorabilia trades.
  • Linda (Caller): “I have a Wildcat T-shirt... guess what he has? The forbidden tongue.” (37:16)
  • Matt Jones: “That is pornographic material you have.” (37:23)
  • Peanut (Caller): “I have a shot glass, a license plate, and a pillowcase with the tongue on it.” (47:19)

9. Quick Hits & Game Picks

• DraftKings pick segment: panel predicts Tennessee vs. Georgia basketball (Tennessee favored).
  • Ryan Lemond: "I'm taking Tennessee... I think Georgia was a little overrated." (45:25)
• Short discussion of Nebraska basketball’s anomalous success and how it compares to UK’s struggles.

10. UK Coach Mark – Too Soft?

• Discussion about whether UK basketball’s coach, Mark, is too passive or "too kind," with some calls for more assertiveness.
  • Caller (Charlie): "I think Mark is just... too kind, maybe. I'm not sure the players respect him." (50:00)
  • Matt: “You can do it a bunch of different ways… There are guys that scream that succeed... there’s a lot of different ways to do it.” (51:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Moment | |---------------|-------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 05:06 | Matt Jones | “Yes, but you know, not certain. But I'm still going to say yes.” (on making the tournament) | | 06:42 | Matt Jones | “I'm friends with all of my exes for the most part... I can't be mad if... people did that with my wife or girlfriend.” | | 08:50 | Matt Jones | “Scotty, congratulations. Your wife wanted to surprise you. You are becoming a father.” | | 10:21 | Ryan Lemond | “I love it... What hurts you more than take some of your money?” (on Deion Sanders' fine) | | 11:19 | Matt Jones | “[In the NBA]... it's part of the collective bargaining agreement… There's no contract that says he can do this.” | | 15:18 | Matt Jones | “I liked it... teams kind of doing that. I thought it was good. I appreciate the call.” (re: Vanderbilt trolling UK) | | 22:50 | Matt Jones | “Matt, I love the show but the story you told about eating lunch with people's wives makes you sound gay.” | | 24:08 | Shannon Dawson | “I said as long as they're okay with it. As long as all parties are fine.” | | 31:10 | Ryan Lemond | “I just think it's a little... disrespectful to yoga girl. If I'm having lunch with another woman…” | | 36:03 | Matt Jones | “If you're not going to let Bill Belichick... why are you going to have a Hall of Fame?” | | 37:23 | Matt Jones | “That is pornographic material you have.” (to Linda about the “forbidden tongue” shirt) | | 43:30 | Matt Jones | “Don't be nervous. Don't be like Ryan. Be like Matt and Billy. Not Ryan and Shannon.” |

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Key Segment Timestamps

• 03:06 – Show starts, weather/school closures, Kentucky basketball loss
• 05:06 – 06:01 – UK tournament prospects debate
• 09:59 – 10:49 – Deion Sanders' $500 player fine policy
• 15:18 – 16:22 – Social media trolling: Vanderbilt’s tweet and rivalry banter
• 22:50 – 32:29 – Debate: friendships with the opposite sex, jealousy, and trust
• 37:03 – 39:14 – Memorable call: “forbidden tongue” UK memorabilia
• 45:14 – 47:04 – DraftKings picks & quick basketball talk
• 50:00 – 52:47 – Caller critiques on Coach Mark’s style

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Summary Table: Major Topics and Tone

| Segment | Theme/Discussion | Tone | |------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------| | Kentucky Basketball | Post-loss assessment, bracketology, résumé-building | Concerned, hopeful | | Weather & Schools | Local life disruptions, anecdotes about icy roads | Local, relatable | | Deion Sanders' Fine Policy | Coaching tactics, NIL money, enforceability | Debating, intrigued | | Social Media Trolling | Sports rivalries, digital trash talk | Playful, bantering | | Gender & Friendship | Social boundaries, insecurity, trust in relationships | Provocative, candid | | Listener Moments | Surprise announcement (“Scotty”), memorabilia stories | Joyful, comedic | | Hall of Fame Grievances | Induction injustice in all major pro sports Halls of Fame | Ranting, humorous | | Life Skills Q&A | Panel quizzes Matt’s hands-on/mechanical abilities | Self-deprecating, fun | | Listener Calls on Coaching | Toughness vs. kindness in coaching, UK’s Mark controversy | Open, reflective |

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Closing Thoughts

This KSR hour provides a microcosm of the show’s signature: relatable local sports talk, hot takes on national issues, and humorous deep-dives into the lives of the hosts and their audience. The tension between traditional attitudes and modern sensibilities—whether that’s about sports, relationships, or leadership—keeps the discussion lively and unpredictable.

Listeners tuning in for UK insights get their fix, but equally, they get warm, funny, and occasionally awkward moments—from surprise baby announcements to debates on the merits of platonic lunch dates. The content flows naturally, with audience engagement and classic KSR chemistry on full display.

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For further listener engagement, key calls and surprises can be found at:

• "Scotty" Announcement: 08:20–09:44
• Deion Sanders Policy segment: 09:59–12:21
• Trolling/Twitter talk: 15:18–16:22
• Gender/friendship debate: 22:50–32:29
• Hall of Fame tirade: 33:34–36:36
• Memorabilia laughs: 37:03–39:14
• Coach Mark critique: 50:00–52:47

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Transcript

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[Shannon Dawson]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio hour number two. Cats lost to Vandy. But we're not letting it spoil our day. Kentucky or Fayette county still out of school.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Most are they out. Going to be out all week.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, because the ice is so bad on the neighborhood streets here in.

[Matt Jones]

Lexington still, I've heard people say now in Louisville, I actually think they've done a pretty good job here from what.

[Shannon Dawson]

I still out though.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. And I don't know. I'm not all over the city, so I'm sure there are places that aren't where I am. Like, you know, our street is mostly cleared off and I'm on a secondary street, so I actually think Louisville's done. I've heard, I've seen a lot of like Facebook complaining about Lexington. Right. Is that. Do you think it's not going well.

[Ryan Lemond]

Or what about streets? Yeah, it seems like, you know, like Newtown pike and the downtown city streets were okay. Drew said when he came in, like, I think Winchester Road was okay. So I think the major thoroughfares, they've done a good job. They just kind of not got to the neighborhood streets yet.

[Matt Jones]

Well, apparently you all have it to where it was like snow, then ice, then snow and now there's ice again and it's making it more difficult.

[Ryan Lemond]

Right. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But Louisville, I feel like Shannon, the main streets are fine.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. Yeah, they're good.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I drove again. I don't know how much you're following this Mississippi thing, but like, they had to shut the interstate down between Oxford between Mississippi and Memphis last night because so many cars were wrecking.

[Ryan Lemond]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

All those people, they're stuck. They're just stuck. Nowhere to go. Like, it's. It sounds awful, don't you think?

[Ryan Lemond]

I think Ole Miss has canceled classes for three days in a row.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Down there.

[Matt Jones]

Is UK in class today? Did they finally go back?

[Ryan Lemond]

I. I haven't heard they Were yesterday. I haven't heard yet. Today.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well. 859280, 2287 one person writes Matt, yes or no. Do we make the tournament? Yes, but you know, not certain. But I'm still going to say yes. What about you? Right.

[Ryan Lemond]

Just they're going to have to steal some of these wins. These, you know, you laid out the schedule for us. They're going to have to beat something and they probably will, you know, kind of get them a good resume win. Because right now they have one good win. Tennessee. That's it. Nothing else.

[Shannon Dawson]

Stole that one. I mean that one really should have been a loss.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that's not true. They beat St. John's that's going to be a good win. They beat Indiana. Indiana's probably going to make the tournament.

[Shannon Dawson]

Purdue last night.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So I mean that's not true. Ryan. We have more than one good win. Beat Texas. They're probably going to make the tournament.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean we're going to have will make the tournament.

[Matt Jones]

So I mean that's at least four tournament wins. So I, I, I, I, I. And our schedule was really hard. I actually think these blowouts though hurt us. Like that's what Because I remember every year I interview the selection chair and he'll talk about specific games. Well, they lost by 40. Like that stuff actually matters to the tournament. It.

[Ryan Lemond]

The way they do it now. It absolutely does.

[Matt Jones]

So you know, you do have to consider that one person writes Matt, would you all did not like the roses on the bed but if a man gave your girlfriend or wife flowers in a friendship gesture.

[Shannon Dawson]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Would you be okay? No, no, I'd be all right. If it was like they had worked together and then like they did a project together and they gave like. And it was not roses. Like it was just like a friendly like you, you could do that, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

No.

[Matt Jones]

See, see I'm friends with a lot of people's wives. Like there's a lot of what with you?

[Ryan Lemond]

You, you go to eat lunch with some of your friends wives, don't you?

[Matt Jones]

A lot. Yes. I'm friends with like, I'm friends with all of my exes for the most part. I'm friends with a lot of people's wives and I hang out with them without the husband because I don't even in some cases really know their husbands. And, and so like I can't be mad if I do that, Shannon. I can't be mad if people did that with my wife or girlfriend.

[Shannon Dawson]

Right, but you'd be okay with another man giving your Girlfriend or wife?

[Matt Jones]

It was completely, like, platonic. Like, I wouldn't say roses is different because roses symbolizes love.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, but what. Maybe you could have a girlfriend that doesn't like roses. Maybe her favorite flower is different. You know, Lily, it wouldn't bother me.

[Matt Jones]

I'm not like Billy. The thing about the Margot Robbie story is not even so much. It's roses. It was. That was rose petals on her bed. You can't be. You can't be with people's bed.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, like a trail. The trail from the hallway. Like a door to the bed.

[Matt Jones]

The bed is the thing for me. Even more than the roses, Ryan, it's the bed that makes it a little. You know?

[Ryan Lemond]

And then she went on and on about how wonderful it was, how good it made her feel.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. She didn't help.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, she's not innocent in all this either. Like, she's not helping anything by acting like she loves it.

[Matt Jones]

She didn't help. All right, I do want to say one thing. I. Over the years, I'll get a lot of people who will say to me, hey, it's. It's my. It's my mom's birthday, or, it's my husband's birthday. Can you give him a shout out? And I get a lot of those, so I generally don't do it. It's not because I don't want to. It's just, you start doing those, then that becomes the whole show. But sometimes I get a unique one. And, Shannon, I decide to do it.

[Shannon Dawson]

Well, I can't wait to hear what this is.

[Matt Jones]

It's a unique one.

[Shannon Dawson]

What is this?

[Matt Jones]

So. So out there listening. Big fan of the show. Somebody named Scotty. You know who you are? Scotty, Scotty. Scotty, I'm here to tell you I spoke with your wife.

[Shannon Dawson]

Oh.

[Matt Jones]

You, Scotty, are about to become a father. How about that? Scotty.

[Ryan Lemond]

Scotty.

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Shannon Dawson]

Deserves the breaking news break.

[Matt Jones]

So, Scotty, congratulations.

[Ryan Lemond]

So he's finding out from you right now.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. Congratulations, Scotty. Your wife wanted to surprise you. You are becoming a father now for other people out there named Scotty that I didn't speak to your wife, your heart may have just skipped.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. How do you know if you're.

[Ryan Lemond]

The lot of. Scotty's dialing their wife.

[Matt Jones]

I think the wife of this Scotty is there at this moment. So if you're driving around and you're your own Scotty, I'm not talking at Scotty Basler. I'm not talking about you. A lot of chaos, Shannon. I'm not Talking to Scotty too, hottie.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, well, you know, he's got the worm.

[Matt Jones]

Not talking to Scottie Pippen. He's in Lexington a lot. Not talking to him. I'm talking to the Scotty whose wife is there. Congratulations. I hope you. Oh, I hope you're very happy. This is so. That's the first time I've ever done that, and I feel good about it now.

[Shannon Dawson]

You're going to be getting all kinds of requests.

[Matt Jones]

No, I just didn't want. So that's the thing. It was unique.

[Shannon Dawson]

We'll tell them to have a nice baby.

[Matt Jones]

That's exactly right. Have a nice baby.

[Shannon Dawson]

Congratulations.

[Ryan Lemond]

First on the show, we had an announcement.

[Matt Jones]

Engagements we one day will probably have a wedding, but we've never had that announcement. So congratulations to Scotty. Deion Sanders. Ryan has announced that he is going to find his players at Colorado $500 every time they are late to practice. Do you like it?

[Ryan Lemond]

I love it. And here's why. I heard this story, and I'm just going to relate it. You know, as a parent, to discipline your kids, you got to find something that hurts them. So it is morphed to where you got to take away their phone or their Xbox or something. Well, now Dion, as their parent, as their coach, is going to find something to hurt them. They're late. What hurts you more than take some of your money? You know, that's. You make them run stairs, that's one thing. But you're going to take away their money that hurts them. That make. Convince them to maybe act a little better.

[Matt Jones]

Here's the one thing I don't know about this shit. I'm not sure how Dion's going to do this.

[Shannon Dawson]

Probably the same way that Anthony Hardaway is doing it. Pity.

[Matt Jones]

But, like, how's Scotty gonna. Scotty. Sorry, how is. I've got Scotty on my brain. How's Dion gonna make him do it, though? Like, the money's coming from a different source. Is Dion just gonna make him write a check to him?

[Shannon Dawson]

He's gonna intercept.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, maybe.

[Shannon Dawson]

Or just intercept their check coming into them and say, that's mine. I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

I'm not against it in theory. You know, it's. It's. It's interesting because most of the time to do this, like, when they do this in the NBA, it's part of the collective bargaining agreement is why they get to do it. Right? So I do think these guys could just tell Dion to go fly a kite, because there's no contract that require that Says, you know what I mean? That. Says he can do this. So he could. They could tell him to just go fly a kite, but then he might say, okay, well, then you're off the tee.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yep.

[Shannon Dawson]

Tell them to go fly kite.

[Matt Jones]

Like, I'm good. But it is an interesting. It is a way. It seems like Ryan, to try to, as you said, find a way to kind of speak to kids now that they're making. Making money.

[Ryan Lemond]

And somebody may challenge it and not pay it or only pay half of it, he's gonna have to step up and suspend somebody's.

[Matt Jones]

And, you know, he might have to do that. He might have to do that because there's no contract that says he could do that. So he might just say. Some kid could just say, go fly kite, but then he can say, well, you can't play.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

So they also. You do wonder, like, does it hurt you in recruiting, Shannon, if you go to a school where you could get fined? And this other school goes, yeah, we don't find people.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, possibly. But, I mean, I don't know if I want that type of person coming to play anyway. If they can't show up on time, I don't.

[Matt Jones]

So it's interesting. It'll be interesting to see how it works if he. If they actually do it. But you are in favor of it, Ryan, you would do it as a coach?

[Ryan Lemond]

I am 100% in favor of it. And there's. There's been some Kentucky kids that would be broke recently in football. They had this rule over at uk. Wow.

[Matt Jones]

Well, tell us more, chief.

[Ryan Lemond]

No, we've talked about a little bit. Some of the guys that were late to meetings and late to work.

[Matt Jones]

You haven't. You haven't said. You haven't said. Are you wanting to say names? You try.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think. I think people kind of understand who it was.

[Shannon Dawson]

No, we don't. We don't understand it all.

[Matt Jones]

I'm on the show, and I don't know who it was.

[Ryan Lemond]

Man, I just can't wait for that ice to start melting in my driveway. I can get out of the house.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Shannon Dawson]

They're gonna make you tell us. He was late.

[Matt Jones]

Interesting. He's. He's not. One person writes, Matt, I am a truck driver. I was driving down the road with my buddy, and my name is Scotty. When you said that, my heart skipped a beat, and my buddy looked at me, and I said, I don't think it's me. And then, thankfully, you said the wife was there.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Scotty's had a moment of panic. All across the bluegrass today.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. One person writes, matt, these men are fine with you seeing they're having lunch with wives because they don't consider you a threat. Well, I'm not. But, Shannon, there's no way I could be. But I'm not.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Because I'm there for. I knew them before most these people I knew before they even knew their husbands. Right.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So I'm like, grandfathered in, in my opinion.

[Shannon Dawson]

Okay, well, as long as they're okay with it. As long as all parties are fine.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I give these husbands credit. Like, again, some of them, I don't really know. Yeah, I give them credit because they're confident. The way you should be, Shannon. In the way. Apparently Billy is.

[Shannon Dawson]

No, I'm confident, but I mean, I just don't know that I would necessarily like that. Anyway, Adam's on the phone now.

[Matt Jones]

It's kind of sweet, isn't it, Ryan?

[Shannon Dawson]

Go ahead. What, you want your comment? What you got, Adam?

[Caller/Listener]

I think it's pretty sweet.

[Matt Jones]

Thank you.

[Shannon Dawson]

Okay. Appreciate your call.

[Matt Jones]

Go ahead, Adam.

[Caller/Listener]

It's not. It's not no spelling bee. And I don't care what anybody got on their MCATs. Yeah. Billy Gillespie once won CO SEC coach of the year. And I don't think he, you know, I don't think he took the MCATs. So that it's. I don't know, it just. Right now it doesn't seem like the right fit. We could always, you know, have revision this history and come back and say he. He put it together, but right now it just doesn't seem the right fit. And you may have mentioned it first hour. What do you think of Vanderbilt trolling us, saying with a tweet, they just tased Ryan, this ball game's over.

[Matt Jones]

I liked it. I mean, that's kind of the new. That's kind of the new thing. And social media is teams kind of doing that. I thought it was good. I appreciate the call. They. They sent it only eight minutes after I sent it, Shannon, which makes me think your school stole it from me.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But nevertheless, I still think it's funny. I'm totally fine with it. Right. I think these schools, as long as it's good natured, a little trash talking during the games is totally fine.

[Ryan Lemond]

I love it and I encourage it. And it was awesome that you sent it out. And then it was awesome when even Vanderbilt sent it out. You don't see the opposing school's Twitter account to put that out there against the state where this happened, I thought was pretty good.

[Shannon Dawson]

Here's what you can't do. And I see a lot of this like on the official Twitter account for Kentucky after they posted the score last night. Most of the trolling is coming from Tennessee fans. You just got beat by Kentucky. You don't get to come in and troll because Vanderbilt beat them. You couldn't even beat them as a Tennessee fan. A lot of Arkansas fans in there too. More than any other fan base.

[Matt Jones]

I agree. The Arkansas and Tennessee fans won't stop with us and that's fine. But you're right, we beat you Tennessee. You can't, you don't get. I mean, you can say something if you want.

[Shannon Dawson]

You don't get to claim Vanderbilt's win. Tennessee.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I talk. I made the comment after Louisville lost to Duke. Pat Kelsey's got the team rolling at the right time. I will grant you. Louisville beat us, but like Louisville thought they were winning the title after that game. I think we knew pretty quickly we weren't what we thought we were. So you know, it is what it is. I have no problem with Vandy talking trash. I thought it was a funny line. The reason I thought it is because you stole it from me. But nevertheless, you, you deserve it and you get a chance to do it. Tell me about Stockton Mortgage, Ryan. They're back.

[Ryan Lemond]

Stockton Mortgage is back. Well, that's great because the Springboks.

[Matt Jones]

He doesn't have the script, Shannon. I can tell. I can tell as soon as we start when he doesn't have the script. You could hear, you could hear his brain not knowing what to say, couldn't you?

[Ryan Lemond]

So did you give me a heads up we were doing Stockton Mortgage?

[Matt Jones]

No, dude, we get at like you're, that you're the endorser, not me.

[Ryan Lemond]

I had no idea we were doing Stockton Mortgage today till you tossed it to me.

[Matt Jones]

All right, well then let's, let's, let's let you go.

[Ryan Lemond]

The spring buying season started a little early and then proof of it is the Stockton Mortgage is coming out and advertising again with ksr. You really threw me for a loop. Keep going Stockton.

[Matt Jones]

You still got some time.

[Ryan Lemond]

Stockton Mortgage to help you get to the closing table, the column you get paired up with a loan officer. That loan officer will walk you through the entire process to get the closing table. It's a hassle. The mortgage process is a hassle. They make it as easy as possible. I send a lot of my clients to Stockton Mortgage. I've used Stockton Mortgage myself. So give them a try. Stock to mortgage.

[Matt Jones]

What about the special things they've got going on in January.

[Ryan Lemond]

I. If there's a script. Nobody send me a script. I have no idea.

[Matt Jones]

They don't. I just wanted to see if he what he would do. Yeah, they don't have anything special.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

I thought maybe you had something that I didn't know.

[Matt Jones]

Go to stockton.com Stockton Morgan's turn questions into answers.

[Ryan Lemond]

Where do you finding that at? Nobody sent me anything.

[Matt Jones]

I had no idea what to do today.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

What if mind control is real?

[Matt Jones]

If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

[Caller/Listener]

When you look at your car, you're.

[Matt Jones]

Going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

Can you help hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

[Matt Jones]

I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

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[Shannon Dawson]

It's about engineering consciousness.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

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[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? It's your boy, Nab Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoff. The Chiefs.

[Matt Jones]

What's a wrap?

[Nav Green]

It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now.

[Shannon Dawson]

Then Drake May up there, Josh Allen up there still.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, my boy Matthew Stafford. Where did Bo Nicks at? He ain't too far behind. He did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy.

[Nav Green]

Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Matt Jones]

Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or whatever. You get your podcast.

[Ryder Strong]

This is Ryder Strong and I have a new podcast called the Red Weather.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

It was many and many a year in a kingdom by the sea.

[Ryder Strong]

In 1995, my neighbor Anna Traynor disappeared from a commune.

[Matt Jones]

It was hard to wrap your head around.

[Ryder Strong]

It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

[Caller/Listener]

So no, I am not your guru.

[Ryder Strong]

And back then I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.

[Caller/Listener]

There were years, Ryder, where I could.

[Matt Jones]

Not say your name.

[Ryder Strong]

I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

[Matt Jones]

Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend? They have had this case for 30 years. I'll teach you sons of come around here and my wife boom boom.

[Ryder Strong]

This is the red weather. Listen to the red weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

On June 11, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department went missing. It's an all out manhunt for John Ajay. Every search and rescue team in LA county has been called in to help. Within days, tips started flooding into the sheriff's department.

[Matt Jones]

They ruler around the drug scene.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

Was that a deputy was taken care of. Is this the story of a man who just got lost in the desert? Or of a cover up inside the nation's largest sheriff's department?

[Ryan Lemond]

A homicide captain saying, detective, do not find out if this guy is guilty or innocent.

[Matt Jones]

Who does that?

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

Valley of Shadows, a new series from Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert. Do you have any advice for us while looking into this disappearance?

[Shannon Dawson]

I would do it alone.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

Listen to Valley of shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Text Machine 772-7745254. A lot of comments, Shannon saying some form of. Matt, I love the show but the story you told about eating lunch with people's wives makes you sound gay.

[Shannon Dawson]

No, no, no.

[Matt Jones]

I mean I'm. I know there's people that think that, but they think that because like you're in your mid-40s, you're single. Because I don't know how to use heavy machinery.

[Shannon Dawson]

Those, those are all true.

[Matt Jones]

I understand that. I mean it's not true, but like I don't sit, I don't. I mean if people Want to think that that's fine, but that has nothing. But that has nothing to do with. With eating lunch. I am very heterosexual. But I also can respect what women as friends. Like, there's. Some guys are like, I can't. Like Mike. Remember Mike Pence wouldn't let his wife, like doing. Like, he wouldn't eat dinner with her. Eating lunch with someone that was from the opposite sex. And Ryan agreed with that back in the day.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

I don't. That's. To me ridiculous. Like, you can have female friends.

[Ryan Lemond]

I would say this. Your group of friends from Trancy is very unique. You guys are all very close. You've been friends since, you know the. You got the Trancy. That's a little different than you going to eat with somebody else's wife. I think.

[Matt Jones]

Or. But I'm. But there are people outside of that. You. I mean, there's people that I've been friends with. Like, I don't see why that's wrong. Why can't men and women be friends?

[Ryan Lemond]

They. They can be. I think if you're married, your wife may have something to say about it.

[Matt Jones]

Well, their. Their husbands don't.

[Shannon Dawson]

I said as long as they're okay with it.

[Nav Green]

As long as.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, there's two women in Louisville that I've become good friends with the last. And I've never even met their husbands. And the three of us go have dinner and I've never even met their husbands. And I've offered to. I was like, if you want me to meet your husbands, I will. I don't, but I. We hang out all the time. I don't know why is that bad?

[Ryan Lemond]

It's not bad if the husband's okay with it. There's a lot of husbands.

[Matt Jones]

But you couldn't handle. You're saying you don't have the self confidence, you could handle it?

[Ryan Lemond]

I think I could handle it. I don't know if my spouses could handle it.

[Matt Jones]

Spouses?

[Shannon Dawson]

You don't trust them? Yeah, multiple. You got two spouses. They're cool with each other.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute. I don't understand what you mean by that. They wouldn't like it if you did it, but you'd be okay if they did it?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I don't believe that. Shannon. He would not be okay.

[Shannon Dawson]

No, no, he's.

[Matt Jones]

He would not be okay with it. Would you?

[Shannon Dawson]

No, no.

[Ryan Lemond]

I guarantee I wouldn't want anybody send her roses.

[Matt Jones]

That's okay. I agree. That's a whole nother line.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. But no, if she's going out, I'M going too.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I understand.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But you know, sometimes they just, Sometimes like people who spend all their time together. They need a break from each other. Right.

[Shannon Dawson]

That's why we have work.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Now you wonder why I'm not married. Like, I know that doesn't sound, it doesn't sound fun. One person writes about. I don't know if you heard the pre show. They were talking about a game called Can Matt start this? Have Ryan and Shannon pick various pieces of equipment and you honestly say whether or not you can start it. Okay, let's go. Go for it. You tell me something. Weed eater can start it wouldn't necessarily be great at using it, but I think I could. So you just pull it, right?

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, but there's other things that go along with it. You have to like string the weed eater. You have to put string in.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, no, no. You're asking me if I can put the string in? Yeah, if it came pre strung, I could do it. If I, if I have to string it.

[Shannon Dawson]

Once the string breaks, it's over.

[Matt Jones]

It's over. Yeah.

[Shannon Dawson]

Throw the whole thing away.

[Matt Jones]

Get a new one.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Lawnmower for sure. I've mowed lawns. When I was a kid. I, I did it. I definitely could do a lot.

[Shannon Dawson]

Motorcycle?

[Matt Jones]

No way. I'm scared to death with motorcycle.

[Shannon Dawson]

You could start like, like a scooter, like.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but I wouldn't do it because I, I, that would make me. I mean, I. Scooter, yes. Motorcycle, no. I'd be worried I'd wreck it.

[Shannon Dawson]

Okay, Ryan, go ahead.

[Ryan Lemond]

A gas powered leaf blower.

[Matt Jones]

How do you do? I know, I mean, maybe I could figure it out, but just off the top of my head, I don't know how to do that.

[Ryan Lemond]

A power washer?

[Matt Jones]

Don't even really know what that is. You don't know what a power washer you talk about. Like, is that where you shoot the water really hard on your car to clean it? Yeah, I've never used it. I've used it. No, I've used it at like.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, but no, you want to use on your house or maybe your driveway?

[Matt Jones]

Oh, I would never do that. No.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

How about a crock pot?

[Shannon Dawson]

Come on.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, you just turn on the oven. Oh, you mean you put it in? I figure it out. What else?

[Shannon Dawson]

What else you got, Ryan?

[Ryan Lemond]

A can opener?

[Matt Jones]

Oh, for sure I can do that.

[Shannon Dawson]

Not electric.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, the manual.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I know how to do it. I know. I do it though, because the one, the, the metal part sticks to the top. And then it goes around.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, you got to turn it. You got to crank.

[Matt Jones]

You got to crank it. Yeah, yeah, I can do that. I can do that. Anything else, Ryan? But like some. I heard somebody say a tractor. Unless it's just turn a key. No. If there's anything else you have to do, I wouldn't.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, that'd be tough for most people. I think just started. Get on a tractor, start a. Gotta.

[Shannon Dawson]

Choke it a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know how to do that.

[Shannon Dawson]

You want to choke it?

[Matt Jones]

No. Who's up next?

[Shannon Dawson]

Bob and James.

[Matt Jones]

I'm welcome to other suggestions. I'm just.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay, I got one more.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

I recently had to change not chart. Jump a battery. Change a battery.

[Matt Jones]

No way. No way.

[Shannon Dawson]

Like a car battery?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, car battery.

[Matt Jones]

No way. I wouldn't even try.

[Shannon Dawson]

He knows how to change double A batteries.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Like you somebody. I heard somebody say jump a battery. I. I don't know if I. I think I could. But I'll be worried because you can't. If you get it wrong. Right it. It like it break. Breaks it.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. You got a 50. 50 shot.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I don't want to do that. So I would ask.

[Ryan Lemond]

I would ask red black, then.

[Matt Jones]

I could do that. Yeah, I think I could do that. All right, go ahead.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do that actually.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Matt. A shout out to Russell County High School's baseball coach assistant. Our electric was off. I didn't have any heat. My, my. I only use a wood stove occasionally with electric stuff. No wood. He hooked me up some firewood. Give it a shot. 700. 700 people. There's 700 people here now in Russell County. Still don't have electric. Anyway, during that game last night in the second half, I turned it off. I went over to my alma mater, Miami. They had a. But still number one. Undefeated. A great win over UMass. Anyway, all the.

[Matt Jones]

All these.

[Caller/Listener]

I couldn't believe the security let all these fans in and Speedos. It's five degrees out. They were still.

[Matt Jones]

T.J. smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. he'll make him pay.

[Shannon Dawson]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

My guilty pleasure song.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. When people say guilty pleasure songs, they usually say songs that are actually good, but they're like, oh, it's a guilty pleasure, but everybody likes it. This is a guilty pleasure. Because nobody really likes this song probably except me.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Shannon Dawson]

Well, at least he's got one person.

[Matt Jones]

This is what I will be singing in my car on the way to lunch, now that you've got my. Haven't thought about it in a long time.

[Shannon Dawson]

On your way to lunch with another man's wife?

[Matt Jones]

Maybe. I don't See. See, the text machine is full of men saying it's weird and women saying they don't understand why men think it's weird. Because, like, here's the thing, Ryan, you don't think. See if I'm right about this, okay? You don't think men and women can actually be friends with each other without there being some thing, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

I think there can be. I just don't know if it's appropriate to take it to the next level by having.

[Matt Jones]

But we're not taking it to the next level. We're Chipotle. That's not the next level. That's not even that level. I. I just. Do you have any female friends?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

You. You do?

[Ryan Lemond]

Of course.

[Matt Jones]

Do you? Or do you have, like, couple friends?

[Ryan Lemond]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so you have female friends.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

And you could eat a meal with them?

[Ryan Lemond]

I could.

[Matt Jones]

So then what's the problem?

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm just not going to do it. I'm not gonna say, hey, man, for lunch next week.

[Matt Jones]

You're not gonna do it.

[Ryan Lemond]

I just think it's a little. This is just my opinion, a little disrespectful to yoga girl. If I'm having lunch with another woman, what is she. School with her do what?

[Matt Jones]

What if she's cool with it?

[Ryan Lemond]

She may be. I'm just. Maybe I'm just gonna be.

[Matt Jones]

So you're my Pence is what you're saying. You're Mike.

[Ryan Lemond]

I agreed with Mike Pence. We had this argument before, okay? This discussion. I mean. So, yeah, I am Mike Pence.

[Matt Jones]

I just. I think that's. I just think that's ridiculous. I know, though, when we had this argument before, there were a lot of people that agreed with it. That seems silly to me. If you. If you can control yourself, which I can, and which presumably you two can, or at least Shannon can, then it strikes me that, like, what's the deal? Like, you can. You can have friends, right? Of course. No, I'm talking to Shannon.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yes. Yeah, you can have friends.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Shannon Dawson]

I just wonder if the same women that are okay with you doing it would be okay if, like, if. Or the other way around, like, let's say they would be okay with their husband going out with another woman for lunch. Would they be okay with that?

[Matt Jones]

You know, I don't know. I don't know their. I don't know their situation, but I will Tell you this. If I get married one day, you can mark this down. I will be fine with it because I have the confidence. I sound like Billy.

[Shannon Dawson]

You do.

[Matt Jones]

I have the confidence. There was a man in my church who was like 90 years old, and his wife was about to go out of town for a few days. And at my church, somebody was giving him a hard time and said, are you worried that your wife's going out of town for a few days? You worried she's going to meet a man? Right. Shannon just kind of teasing him, and he looked at the person and said, I'm not worried. She knows the good wood from the brush. And I was a little kid when I heard that.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

His name was Hope Cox, and I've always remembered Hope Cox's thing. He wasn't worried because he knew who Hope Cox was, Shannon.

[Shannon Dawson]

Right? Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

He wasn't worried about the other people. He was Hope Cox.

[Ryan Lemond]

No doubt. There's people like you and Billy that are.

[Matt Jones]

Don't forget about Hope Cox.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. What if there was more good wood out there, though, that. That she found that was better wood than Hope?

[Matt Jones]

Here's the thing, Shannon. There's not gonna be anybody better. He's Hope can't find.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay.

[Shannon Dawson]

Pearl Jam can't find.

[Matt Jones]

And I met Jones. And that's Billy R. Sports.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. Okay.

[Matt Jones]

I can't believe you're making me take up for Billy. 859-280-2287. Bill Belichick, speaking of Billy's. What a great transition did not make.

[Shannon Dawson]

The hall of Fame ridiculous.

[Matt Jones]

Ridiculous.

[Shannon Dawson]

Stupid.

[Matt Jones]

That's why the whole. The hall of Fame's dumb. In every sport. Every sports. Every sport has a terrible hall of Fame. Basketball lets too many people in. Okay? If you ever look at the Basketball hall of Fame, like, everyone's in everyone. That was even good. Is it like, if you think about the NBA right now, like, DeMar DeRozan will be in the hall of Fame. Does he Even know what DeMar DeRozan looks like?

[Shannon Dawson]

No.

[Ryan Lemond]

No.

[Matt Jones]

He'll be in the hall of Fame, though, because. Because that's the way the NBA works. They all. Everyone makes all of it. So basketball's done for that reason. Baseball's dumb because they act like they have some sort of moral clause. Barry Bonds is not in the hall of Fame. Come on. Alex Rodriguez is not in the hall of Fame. Roger Clements, Mark McGuire. Mark McGuire. How you gonna have a Hall of Fame with the best hitter maybe of all time and leave him out? The two best hitters of our lifetime, Shannon, are Barry Bonds and Alex Rodriguez and they don't have either one of them yet.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

So ridiculous. Sosa had. Sosa is a tougher argument because he really wasn't good before the. The steroids, but so was Barry. But Barry bonds and Mark McGuire were good before the steroids, right?

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Roger Clemens.

[Shannon Dawson]

So what is it with Belichick? People just don't like him.

[Matt Jones]

Football is. Football has this weird thing that we don't necessarily let people in the first time. Stop it. He's the best coach. I hate the Patriots. Hate. Hey, hate the Patriots. But he's the best coach of all time. To have a Hall of Fame where you don't let him in because whatever your rules are, Ryan, they're stupid. If you're not letting Bill Belichick, you.

[Ryan Lemond]

You said he's the best NFL coach in the history of the NFL and some writers have a personal vendetta against him. So they're not going to vote for him.

[Matt Jones]

Apparently the story is Bill Pollion, who I guess was with the Colts, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Right.

[Matt Jones]

He was mad about the flight gate and he got enough people on the committee to agree this is the allegation to like, not let him in until the second year. But if that is true, then that's ridiculous. How can you have a system where a dude doesn't like somebody and they don't let him in?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. For a personal vendetta against somebody that's.

[Matt Jones]

I don't care if he's at North Carolina or he's dating Jordan Hudson or whatever.

[Shannon Dawson]

Like, who cares if he doesn't get in in the first ballot, then nobody should. Nobody. If he doesn't go.

[Matt Jones]

I even have a ballot. If you're not going to let in Bill Belichick. Right?

[Ryan Lemond]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

Why are you going to have a Hall of Fame if you're not going to let in Barry Bonds and then in the NBA? Why are you going to have a health hall of Fame if you let everybody in?

[Shannon Dawson]

That's ridiculous.

[Matt Jones]

It's just dumb. So that's why all the hall of Fames are stupid. I don't understand why sports writers get to vote on it. We. Can you imagine if they asked me to vote? I don't know anything. But you know what? Like, I, if I, if I do radio two more years, I'm eligible to potentially be nominated to do that. How stupid is that?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Shannon Dawson]

Well, you would vote for Belichick, though.

[Matt Jones]

Well, you know what? I'd be better than who they have because, yes, I would vote. Yeah. Who's next? Linda Linda. Go ahead. Linda.

[Caller/Listener]

Hello.

[Matt Jones]

Hi.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I was just listening to your podcast, which I do mostly every day.

[Matt Jones]

Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

And you were talking about the unusual memorabilia.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. What do you have?

[Caller/Listener]

And I. I have a wildcat T shirt with Kentucky, the Wildcats and basketballs and a big wildcat head. And guess what he has.

[Matt Jones]

What does he have?

[Caller/Listener]

The forbidden. The forbidden tongue.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you've got the. You've got the dirty tongue.

[Caller/Listener]

I do.

[Matt Jones]

That is pornographic material you have.

[Caller/Listener]

I. I know that. And that's probably why my parents wouldn't let me wear it out in public.

[Matt Jones]

So.

[Caller/Listener]

So it's in really good shape.

[Matt Jones]

So do you wear it now?

[Caller/Listener]

Sure, if I went somewhere I wanted to, but it's really nice. I'll. I'll text you a picture of it.

[Matt Jones]

Okay? Please do. Because you've got. She's got the saucy tongue.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Ma', am, you're. What's your name?

[Caller/Listener]

Linda.

[Matt Jones]

Linda with the saucy tongue. Okay, so Linda with the saucy tongue. I think you should wear it and come by the bar sometime, Linda. And when we'll. We'll take a picture of it. Okay?

[Caller/Listener]

All right. That sounds like a winner. I've got kids that live in Louisville, so.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I'm in the bars, so make sure you go there. I appreciate it.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, yeah, I got one Some in Lexington.

[Matt Jones]

Well, good. I appreciate it, Linda. And the saucy tongue. Do you have any memorabilia with the tongue, Ryan?

[Ryan Lemond]

No. I used to. I remember years ago, but it's gone. Long gone, but now really hard to find.

[Matt Jones]

Like that. That's a real. Like, I don't. I had a T shirt once with it, but that was years ago and I think I lost it in a move. And those are really hard to find now. Hey, bbn, don't let aches and pains fall you in the new year. Start 2026. Strong court. Physical therapy can help you get back to what you love. Whether you want to get back at the gym, pick up a new sport, or just be able to get around easier, a physical therapist from court can help you do so pain free. Over 70 locations across Kentucky. Chances are there's a court near you. Go to court.com, that's kort.com and book an appointment today. Court.com. goodwood versus the brush. Keep that in mind.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

What was the guy's name?

[Shannon Dawson]

Something. Cox. Hope Cox.

[Matt Jones]

Hope Cox.

[Ryan Lemond]

Hope Cox.

[Matt Jones]

Great advice.

[Ryan Lemond]

Living legend.

[Matt Jones]

No reason to be jealous.

[Caller/Listener]

Great name.

[Matt Jones]

Goodwood versus the Brush. Take it. Be right back. Ksr.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

What if mind control is real?

[Matt Jones]

If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

[Caller/Listener]

When you look at your car, you're.

[Matt Jones]

Gonna become overwhelmed with such good feelings.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

[Matt Jones]

I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. Nlp, AKA Neuro Linguistic programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

[Shannon Dawson]

It's about engineering consciousness.

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[Matt Jones]

This is wild.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

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[Ryder Strong]

This is Rider Strong and I have a new podcast called the Red Weather.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

It was many and many a year ago in a Kingd.

[Ryder Strong]

In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainor disappeared from a commune.

[Matt Jones]

It was hard to wrap your head around.

[Ryder Strong]

It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

[Caller/Listener]

So, no, I am not your guru.

[Ryder Strong]

And back then I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.

[Caller/Listener]

There were years, Ryder, where I could.

[Matt Jones]

Not say your name.

[Ryder Strong]

I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

[Matt Jones]

Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend? They have had this case for 30 years. I'll teach you sons of come around here in my white Boom boom.

[Ryder Strong]

This is the Red weather. Listen to the red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy, Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoff. The Chiefs or it's a rap. It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now.

[Matt Jones]

Then Drake May up there, Josh Allen up there still oh, my boy Matthew Stafford. Where did Nicks at? He ain't too far behind.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

He did all this talking.

[Matt Jones]

Hey, what Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy.

[Nav Green]

Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Matt Jones]

Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or whatever, you get your podcast.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

On June 11, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department went missing. It's an all out manhunt for John Ajay. Every search and rescue team in LA county has been called in to help. Within days, tips started flooding into the sheriff's department. They rumor around the drug scene was.

[Caller/Listener]

That a deputy was taken care of.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

Is this the story of a man who just got lost in the desert? Or of a cover up inside the nation's largest sheriff's department?

[Ryan Lemond]

A homicide captain saying, detective, do not find out if this guy's guilty or innocent.

[Caller/Listener]

Who does that?

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

Valley of Shadows, a new series from Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert. Do you have any advice for us while looking into this disappearance?

[Shannon Dawson]

I wouldn't do it alone.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

Listen to Valley of shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Matt Jones]

What is this?

[Shannon Dawson]

This is Norwegian wood by the Beatles.

[Ryan Lemond]

By the Beatles, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. Hope Cox. That's great advice for men out there. Don't. Don't be. Don't be nervous. This. Don't be like Ryan. Be like Matt and Billy. Not riding shit.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think it's definitely just a personal choice, but I think you and Billy may be in the minority.

[Matt Jones]

It's because you're hearing from insecure dudes. The tech again. It's all about who you talk to. Women are on my side.

[Ryan Lemond]

Not even who I talk to. I haven't talked to anybody. I just think that's you guys.

[Matt Jones]

So he's like deciding what the people think? Shannon with no basis.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, well, I don't know. It's about being insecure, but maybe a little bit jealous.

[Matt Jones]

Ron, you're a very jealous person, though. You would grant that, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

I just think it's more respectful. I'm not.

[Matt Jones]

Leave this issue aside. You're jealous in general. Was that fair to say?

[Ryan Lemond]

No, hardly at all. Think of my past. Here.

[Matt Jones]

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[Shannon Dawson]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Shannon Dawson]

Some SEC games. Right.

[Matt Jones]

Not a lot of great ones. I guess I'll pick Tennessee at Georgia.

[Shannon Dawson]

That'll be a good one.

[Matt Jones]

George is a 1 1/2 point favorite at home. Ryan, who you got?

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm taking Tennessee, and I think Tennessee will win the game. I think Georgia was a little overrated. I think they're about to be exposed a little bit more. So I go Tennessee.

[Matt Jones]

Tennessee to win on the road. All right.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yep.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. Georgia, though, scores a ton of points. I think they lead. They still lead the country in points per game.

[Matt Jones]

Not anymore, but they're high.

[Shannon Dawson]

Close. Yeah. You know, I'm going to take Georgia on this one.

[Matt Jones]

It's a tough one. I. Georgia's not played well last couple of weeks. I'm going to say Tennessee. They got to get it. I mean, Tennessee has. They have a lot more losses than you think. Do they have? I think they have as many as they have 6.

[Shannon Dawson]

13 and 6.

[Matt Jones]

13 and 6. So they need this one. So I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say Tennessee goes on the road and gets the victory. I watched last night before we started playing Ryan. Nebraska, because, you know, Nebraska was undefeated.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And then they lost last night at Michigan. When you watch Nebraska play, you sit there and go, why aren't we good? Right? Like, those dudes do not look like they would be good at basketball, any of them. And yet they.

[Shannon Dawson]

Ball.

[Matt Jones]

They lost that game last night, but, you know, they lost at Michigan. That is not a bad loss. And you sit there and go, Nebraska is 20 and one and we struggle to score 55 points. It can actually be very Frustrating, because none of those dudes at Nebraska are going to play at the next level, and yet they still play.

[Shannon Dawson]

Well, they had 50 points at halftime last night.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, they have little dudes that look like us making plays.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, Nebraska reminds us about my team last year. A bunch of old guys don't look at very athletic. Not going to play at the Ed. The NBA. But yeah, they just get the latest ball.

[Shannon Dawson]

They made 10 threes in the first half. Only problem is they only made one in the second half.

[Matt Jones]

But did you hear him say my team? Like he coaches the team?

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

He goes, you remind me of my team last year. Kentucky team. Who's next?

[Shannon Dawson]

Peanut.

[Matt Jones]

Peanut. Go ahead, Peanut.

[Caller/Listener]

All right, first of all, I have. I have a shot glass, a license plate, and a pillowcase with the tongue on it.

[Matt Jones]

All right, you have a pillowcase with the tongue on it. I do.

[Caller/Listener]

I had a twin bed.

[Matt Jones]

You sleep with that saucy tongue kind of licking you at night in your ear.

[Caller/Listener]

In your ear. I actually, I did when I was a kid. The bed spread matched, but I don't have the bed spread anymore. But now I just have the.

[Matt Jones]

You had a bed spread with that tongue on it, too?

[Ryan Lemond]

My goodness.

[Caller/Listener]

I did.

[Matt Jones]

Peanut, I understand a lot more about.

[Caller/Listener]

So. So two nights ago, me and my cousin were talking about trading some memorabilia, and. And I told him I had a bullet. East 8586 basketball program with Joe B. Hall on it. He was there to see Rex Chapman, and he. He counter offered me with a Patrick Patterson picture with Richie Farmer signature on it.

[Matt Jones]

What is it? Was getting people to send and sign other people's pictures.

[Shannon Dawson]

So Richie signed Patrick Patterson.

[Matt Jones]

Richie signed Patrick Patterson's.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. That's an odd. That's an odd memorabilia. But, Peanut, you're a unique character. I appreciate the call. I think Dan Issel signing Jared Carter's pictures got to be one of the weirdest things that exist.

[Shannon Dawson]

Let me ask you, would you do that if somebody asked you to do that if you're a basketball player?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. As a basketball player, it's weird. Sometimes people want you to sign something and there's nothing there. Like, I've signed, like, people's. You know, like a me. I've signed menus at other restaurants before because, like, I'd be somewhere and they want you to sign something. Yeah, but it is weird. I can't imagine the scenario you would go up. First of all, are you just carrying around a picture of Jared Carter?

[Shannon Dawson]

You're hoping for Jared, but you'll settle for Daniel.

[Matt Jones]

Like where is it? You're seeing Dan Issel? Where? You have a picture of Jared Carter?

[Shannon Dawson]

That's a good question.

[Matt Jones]

Where are you? Are you at a Jerry Carter signing and Dan Issel showed up?

[Shannon Dawson]

You got in the other line. Can't imagine.

[Matt Jones]

I know what it is. Jared Carter and Dan Issel are signing. Dan's pictures are more expensive. So you buy the Jared Carter and have Dan sign it. What do you think?

[Shannon Dawson]

Maybe. But are you. I thought you're paying for the autograph, not the picture.

[Matt Jones]

I can't figure out a scenario where that happens. Somebody. That person's gonna have to let me know who's next.

[Shannon Dawson]

Charlie.

[Matt Jones]

Charlie. Go ahead, Charlie.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Matt. How are y' all doing today?

[Matt Jones]

Good.

[Caller/Listener]

Talking about your lawnmowers and chainsaws. I want to tell you about a local kid here. He had a lawnmower, and. And the preacher wanted it. They were negotiating a deal, and the preacher wound up trading him a bicycle for his lawnmower. And as he's pedaling off, the preacher hollers at him, said, hey, kid, this lawnmower won't start. He said, well, preacher, you got a cuss at it? He said, oh, no, no. I'm. I'm a preacher. I forgot all my cuss words. He said, you keep pulling on that rope, they'll come back to you.

[Matt Jones]

I like it. Sounds like a joke I would have heard in church. Is that where you heard it? A church joke book?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I knew it. I could tell. That's. That's. That is a. That's a church joke book.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay. Talking about the ball team, I just. I think Mark is just. I think he's too soft. He's too kind, maybe. I'm not for sure. The players respect him. Did you see that? The ball taken out on the end last night and they threw the ball out on the court?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I put that on away. I mean, I will say this. Away. There are times I think O Way is a. From an. From a basketball perspective, always. Almost always a positive, but from an attitude perspective, Away is often a positive, but sometimes he's a negative. And I thought that there were some moments last night he was a negative. And that's. That's an example of that.

[Caller/Listener]

I just, you know, and Bobby Knight was probably too much of a general, but we almost need a general coach, you know?

[Matt Jones]

Well, you can do it a bunch of different ways. I appreciate the call. We've talked about this over the years. I mean, obviously, there are guys that scream that succeed. There are guys that scream that fail. There are guys that are quiet that succeed, and then there are guys that are quiet that fail. So I think there's a lot of different ways to do it. We'll just have to see Ryan. If Mark is going to be able to find a style that works, I.

[Ryan Lemond]

Would like to see him do something. When things start going south, he kind of just stands there with his arms crossed. I mean, I would like him to do a little bit of maybe call some timeouts, make some. Do something at that point, you know.

[Shannon Dawson]

Tubby used to just stare a hole through people. He didn't really. I didn't really see him.

[Matt Jones]

Tubby could do both, though. Like, Tubby could be nice. And he could also scream at you.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes, he could.

[Matt Jones]

Cows like that too, some. Although I thought Cal towards the end got way too screamy, you know, I don't know. Remains to be seen. Mark, there's still, I think, a lot of questions about how the Mark thing is going to work. And then we'll see what happens this year. Only 10 games left. It is Wednesday at KS Bar if you want to go out there. Everybody be safe. We will be back tomorrow. Keep doing this on a snowy week and cold week here in Kentucky. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? It's your boy Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. Guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect podcast network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs.

[Matt Jones]

The chief.

[Nav Green]

It's time to rebuild. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or whatever you get your podcast.

[Ryder Strong]

This is Ryder Strong and I have a new podcast called the red weather. In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainer disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

[Caller/Listener]

So, no, I am not your guru.

[Ryder Strong]

And back then, I lied to everybody.

[Matt Jones]

They have had this case for 30 years.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen to the Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

On June 11, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department went missing.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, if they'll kill a cop and bury him, what are they gonna do to me?

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

What really happened to the missing deputy? Valley of Shadows, a new series from Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert. Listen to Valley of Shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Matt Jones]

You know Roald Dahl, he thought of Willy Wonka and the bfg. But did you know he was a spy? In the new podcast, the Secret World of Roald Dahl, I'll tell you that story and much, much more.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

What?

[Matt Jones]

You probably won't believe it either.

[Podcast Narrator/Advertiser]

Was this before you wrote his stories? It must have been Okay, I don't think that's true.

[Matt Jones]

I'm telling you, the guy was a spy. Listen to the Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.