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Shannon Grigsby (3:32)

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Matt Jones (3:39)

Welcome back. It is our number two Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-774-5254. People writing in with some questions. Let's go through them real quick. What better writes Matt, did you and Drew get up this morning? Watch Novak Djokovic turn back time and beat center. I saw like the last point but apparently huge. Huge. He is turning back time. Yokovic Djokovic beats Yannick Sinner Drew and what is I mean, you wouldn't think for people who don't follow it, that doesn't seem like an upset because people know Djokovic, but he's he's old and hadn't won like this in a long time.

Drew (4:19)

Yeah, I wasn't tuned in live, but he got the young guy and Alcaraz won a thriller too. So it's Australia had a lot of good tennis late in the and early morning last night. His came down to last set and last point. He had a big, big winner after going down.

Matt Jones (4:34)

The problem with the Australian Open is it's overnight and I'm always asleep so it's hard to know what's going on. It does feel like, does it ever feel to you like a different Life, Drew, when we were tennis journalists.

Drew (4:46)

It does, and I miss it from time to time. We knew when we were in it that tennis people have the easiest job in the world because the matches are so long. So you just sit there, enjoy. There's not a lot to say, and then you write your recap. And there's not a lot of in depth analysis in tennis. And they're. You're going to like, the nicest places ever to watch. So people that got on the tennis beat, they know what they're doing.

Matt Jones (5:07)

I think we knew when we were in it. It was ridiculous that we were in it too, because we really didn't. I mean, we really didn't know what we were doing, but the fact that they would send us and Shannon, we stayed in the nicest hotel. Like, we stayed in, like, the Plaza in New York.

Drew (5:24)

Yeah, The Waldorf, which just reopened and is now the most expensive hotel.

Matt Jones (5:27)

Yeah, we stayed, like, literally in the Waldorf for like two straight weeks, just me and Drew in this insanely nice hotel.

Shannon Grigsby (5:35)

Well, you played tennis, so I guess, you know, you qualified.

Matt Jones (5:38)

You played tennis before, but, like, it didn't come into play with what we were doing.

Shannon Grigsby (5:42)

Is that where the guy that was like the slash, slash guy, he didn't like that.

Matt Jones (5:50)

He.

Caller (5:50)

Yeah, slash, slash, slash, slash.

Matt Jones (5:53)

He still does it, by the way.

Ryan (5:55)

Does he really?

Matt Jones (5:56)

He still does it. I see his. I see his stuff on social media. He still does. He didn't like that. Drew and I were. Were, you know, were credentialed now. He came around, and by the end, he was nice to us, but he was. He was slash.

Shannon Grigsby (6:10)

He's one of the slash, slash you guys out of there.

Matt Jones (6:12)

That's right.

Drew (6:13)

He's very serious. Like, I didn't have a lot to say about the matches, so I'm asking the players what was on their iPad or ipod or why were you drinking a Diet Coke in the. In the middle. Middle of a match. And then, you know, he just wants to nerd out over points and sets. And I don't think he liked our brand coming in there.

Matt Jones (6:28)

But it's also crazy. Like, you probably get closer, Ryan, to famous athletes in tennis than anywhere else. I mean, we. Drew and I shared an elevator with Nadal and talked to him. I had Federer on the post game show. Yeah, we interviewed Serena. We interviewed Venus Williams. Like, those are very famous people. And Drew and I were just like, hey, what's up? You know, like, they. It's. It's kind of crazy that we did that.

Ryan (6:55)

Didn't you say I think at one point that the athletes were much more friendlier than the media. They were well in the athlete.

Matt Jones (7:01)

Yeah, some. The thing. What I learned about tennis is the better the player, generally speaking, the nicer they were. It was the guys that. That sucked, Drew. That were always the biggest jerks. We always talk about the worst athlete I've ever met for being a jerk was a tennis player, Jack Sock. Do you remember him, Drew?

Drew (7:23)

Oh, of course.

Matt Jones (7:24)

He was the worst.

Shannon Grigsby (7:25)

What was his name?

Matt Jones (7:26)

The worst. Jack Sock. He was American and he was. He was kind of coming up. He was supposed to be a star and his name was Jack Sock.

Ryan (7:36)

And what did he do?

Matt Jones (7:38)

I just. Every time we ran to him, he was. If he'd do something else. Jerky. He was just this, like, whiny dude who clearly had been privileged his entire life.

Drew (7:46)

He'd throw rackets in the match.

Matt Jones (7:49)

Yeah. He'd yell at everybody. I just did not. We did not like Jack Sock.

Drew (7:54)

He was the top drink American. So we wanted to like him. And we go to his first match, we're like. We're supposed to like this.

Matt Jones (7:59)

What was the guy's name that we like so much? Evo Karlovic.

Drew (8:02)

Evo Carlo.

Ryan (8:03)

Vic.

Drew (8:03)

I miss him.

Matt Jones (8:04)

Yeah. Wow. Good memories. One person writes. Matt. Are any of you all going this weekend to see the Melania Trump documentary? Well, I mean, you can guess that I'm not. Are you going to go, Ryan?

Drew (8:19)

No, it's first I've heard about it.

Ryan (8:23)

There's a documentary.

Matt Jones (8:25)

They spent $75 million making it.

Ryan (8:29)

And it's going to open in theaters?

Matt Jones (8:31)

I think so. Yeah. I think it's on in Lexington and Louisville.

Ryan (8:34)

Wow.

Matt Jones (8:35)

I don't. I mean, actually, as much as I don't like her husband, I don't mind her. But I also don't know Shannon. Is she interesting?

Shannon Grigsby (8:45)

I guess we're gonna find out. Maybe that's the whole point of this movie, just to see if she is. Or they're gonna try to make her look that way. Movies can make anybody look interesting.

Matt Jones (8:52)

You think so?

Shannon Grigsby (8:53)

No. Yeah.

Drew (8:53)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (8:54)

I mean, I don't have any. I don't find her objectionable. I also just don't find her, like, what. What does she do?

Shannon Grigsby (9:00)

Well, we're about to find out.

Drew (9:02)

No spoilers.

Matt Jones (9:03)

Yeah, I do think it would be fascinating. I'm sure they don't show this. I think it would be fascinating to watch their relationship.

Shannon Grigsby (9:11)

You know, I think that's what you're going to see in this, I'm guessing. I mean, from what I've seen.

Matt Jones (9:15)

I would be interested but I would be interested to see, like, does she really like him? Like, for real? Well, like, like really, like, are you really. Are they. Are they really, like. Well, you know what I'm talking.

Shannon Grigsby (9:32)

Well, yeah, I wonder that about a lot of couples. Like, they really like each other or they.

Ryan (9:36)

The money.

Matt Jones (9:36)

I do, I do wonder about that. So if they got to that, I might want to see it. Kentucky is the fourth biggest consumer rind in the country of Mountain Dew, according to Mountain Dew. They said yesterday that Kentucky is fourth in total Mountain Dew consumed. Not even per capita, just total Mountain Dew, which when you consider how small we are, is pretty good. Ohio consumes the most Mountain Dew. Seems like Mountain Dew is kind of a midwestern southern thing. Indiana is second and we are fourth. Bullock county played a huge part in this.

Shannon Grigsby (10:13)

Taylor county apparently did too. Last week we were in Campbellsville. They brought us donuts and Mountain Dew.

Matt Jones (10:18)

We were going to be seventh, but Bullock County's returns came in late and we got all the way up to four. What do you think, right. About us being the fourth biggest consumer of Mountain Dew?

Ryan (10:28)

I gotta be honest, I was a little shocked. I thought for sure we'd be a runaway number one winner. Just if you grew up in certain parts of this state, you grew up drinking Mountain Dew. Not milk, not formula. Mountain Dew.

Matt Jones (10:41)

Only Bullock County.

Drew (10:42)

I don't know.

Shannon Grigsby (10:43)

You say that.

Matt Jones (10:44)

No formula. I haven't drank it.

Shannon Grigsby (10:46)

Mountain Dew in baby bottles full of.

Matt Jones (10:48)

Mountain Dew hot formula. They did not give them formula. No, they gave them Mountain Dew. So congrats to the state of Kentucky. Now, are you all ready to play? We play this game every year. If you were a Kentucky state legislator.

Ryan (11:03)

Oh, I love this game.

Matt Jones (11:05)

You are the legislature. You three.

Ryan (11:07)

Yes.

Matt Jones (11:08)

Here is the bill that is before you because this was voted on yesterday in the committee in the Kentucky legislature. It is a bill that allows judges to give non violent offenders. So this is mostly drug offenses, although it could be other things. But nonviolent offenders to have a factor that allows them to get probation instead of prison time to be whether or not they have a child. I'm going to present you the argument on both sides. The people in favor of the bill say that when parents go to jail for drug stuff, it ends up having a negative impact on both the parent because they don't get to be with their kid, but also the child who may then have to go with another family member or maybe even into like foster care or something because their only parent is in jail. And the idea Would be that if. If the person will test clean that they can get probation instead of prison time so they can watch their children. The people against it say you're creating a two tiered legal system where if you have a child, you can get probation, but if you don't have a child, you don't. And essentially, it's not fair because you're making justice depend on whether or not you had a child. And also potentially encouraging people with children to use drugs because they have a better chance of being on probation instead of jail time. So that is the bill, basically. Which side would you be on? I'll let Drew go first.

Drew (12:47)

This is a tough one. Kids, you know, they don't pick their parents. And as you said, they're. They would be very affected by this change their whole life. But at the same time, I don't know about lowering accountability just because you have a kid. I'm going to lean towards whatever you did. It needs to be across the board, the punishment.

Matt Jones (13:07)

You're gonna say no, you can't consider the fact that they're on the fly.

Drew (13:11)

Maybe. Maybe I could hear another argument, but right now that's. That's my immediate reaction.

Ryan (13:16)

All right, Ryan, I need to ask you one question.

Matt Jones (13:20)

Okay.

Ryan (13:21)

So for. To get the probation, they have to test clean, right? Every time?

Matt Jones (13:25)

Yes. Everyone who gets probation has to do that. Yes. So that the assumption would be that at the moment, they are clean.

Ryan (13:32)

I am going that route 100% because I've been around a lot of these kids, and it does, man, it affects you, and you end up in the foster care system, and that affects you. If mom or dad can stay clean, they absolutely need to be there for their kids. So I vote. I would want that bill to pass.

Matt Jones (13:49)

All right, we're at 1 1. That means Shannon Grigsby, Republican or no. Independent.

Shannon Grigsby (13:55)

Independent.

Matt Jones (13:56)

Independent from Bullet county.

Shannon Grigsby (13:58)

Yep.

Matt Jones (13:59)

Will be casting the deciding vote. Where are you going?

Shannon Grigsby (14:02)

I would say, and as you said, there are a lot of these cases are drug related cases. If you're a parent doing drugs, you're not a very good parent to begin with. I say we have to treat this all across the board exactly the same. I don't care if you're a parent or not. There are probably a lot of people who have drug problems adopting kids just as an insurance policy. So I think that regardless if you have a kid or not, we treat you all the same. No probation you go into.

Matt Jones (14:27)

Bill has passed in KSR. Excuse me. Has. Has failed in KSR committee 2 to 1. Now, would you like to know what actually happened in the real legislature. Yeah.

Ryan (14:36)

Yes.

Matt Jones (14:37)

In committee. Okay. So it hasn't been voted on by the full legislature. It actually passed 6 to 1, which is a little bit of a surprise to me. Now, one person who voted for it, he was get. He, he, he gave a quote Drew, that made it sound like he was against it even though he voted for it. This is state senator Philip Wheeler. I bring him up, I've brought him up on this show before because I went to college with him. And if you had asked me, Shannon, everyone I went to college with at transy, who's the one person you would want to be in the state senate the least? I would have picked Phil. I'm not kidding you. I'm sure he's a decent guy now. But in college he would say things that would. I was like, I cannot believe a human being believes this. Now I get. I don't know what he believes now. I haven't seen him in years. But he's a state senator from Pikeville. Here's what he said. Let's just say hypothetically, I'm a drug addict. You're a drug addict, but you have two kids and I don't. You, you're going to be eligible for a program that keeps you out of the clink. While myself, who arguably is more responsible because I didn't bring a bunch of people into this world on social services and everything else, I got to go to jail. But you don't. He voted basically saying because I can't have, because I don't have any kids, I'm better than you. He actually takes an argument, Shannon, that I think is even I wouldn't make.

Shannon Grigsby (16:05)

Yeah, interesting take.

Matt Jones (16:08)

But he ended up voting for the bill. He voted for the bill. Which like why would you give that quote if you're going to vote for it?

Shannon Grigsby (16:14)

I don't think he even knows what he voted for. It doesn't sound like I didn't want.

Matt Jones (16:17)

Him to be in the state senate when I was at Transylvania.

Shannon Grigsby (16:20)

Matt, I'm curious what you would have voted.

Matt Jones (16:23)

I would have. See I actually think it's a really tough question because my sympathies are with Ryan. I think in general we put too many people in jail like we put jail is our cure for too many things. And so in general I'm for drug court and things that are non jail related things. I do however think that you creating any sort of two tier justice system is just at its fundamental nature, not fair. So I don't like that. I Don't like creating a two tiered justice system. What I would do is say, why not? What you're doing for the parents here, do for everyone.

Shannon Grigsby (17:03)

Yeah, right.

Matt Jones (17:04)

If it's. If you think a parent should be able to go on probation, then clearly you don't think the crime itself needs jail time or you would put them in jail. Right. So whatever it is you're allowing them. I would give everyone that opportunity.

Shannon Grigsby (17:18)

So you sound like you're kind of on the side of Drew and I'm actually gone.

Matt Jones (17:23)

I would say I would amend the bill to give everyone that opportunity.

Shannon Grigsby (17:27)

But you're treating everybody the same.

Matt Jones (17:28)

I think it's important you treat everybody the same because I don't. It's not about. I'm not like Philip. It's not about incentives to have kids. It's just about. I don't like things in law that enshrine that we treat people differently based on characteristics. I just don't like that. Especially in the criminal justice system. That's just my view. So I would. If I had to, I'd probably vote for it, but I'd want to amend it to include everybody. So if I had to vote, it'd be 2. 2 and we'd be tied.

Shannon Grigsby (17:57)

Well, that's not what happened.

Drew (17:59)

They should work in like the person has to be the primary caretaker too. Like if you're like a solo parent, there could be a little more.

Matt Jones (18:06)

Yeah, leniency, I think that's actually.

Drew (18:08)

But if, like if mom or dad is still home to take care of the kid, I don't think you should get anything special.

Matt Jones (18:14)

That's a reasonable point. All right, so there you go. The Kentucky legislature of KSR has spoken. Has been adjourned. Tell me about Stockton Morgan Stockton Mortgage.

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Matt Jones (18:56)

To you Matt one person writes Matt, if my name was Jack Sock, I'd probably have pent up anger too. Can you imagine what it was like growing up being named Jack Sock? Yeah, it probably wasn't easy. To be fair, this was a podcast.

Drew (19:09)

I'd have a lot more to say.

Matt Jones (19:11)

We'll take a break and be right back.

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Matt Jones (22:17)

Welcome back Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287. Text machine full of lots of very varied opinions on the probation Bill Shannon. Not a lot of varied opinions on Philip Wheeler.

Shannon Grigsby (22:32)

Everybody across the board agree. I think the people that know, yeah.

Matt Jones (22:36)

You know, they know. Although again he may be. I haven't talked to him in years. He may be, he may be a good guy now, I don't know but in college I would not have put him in the wheels of government. Who's up next?

Shannon Grigsby (22:48)

Let's go to Mark.

Matt Jones (22:50)

Mark, go ahead Mark.

Caller (22:53)

Afternoon gentlemen.

Matt Jones (22:55)

Afternoon.

Caller (22:56)

First off, congratulations on the. Congratulations on the ratings.

Matt Jones (23:00)

Thank you sir.

Caller (23:02)

You asked earlier about if somebody could snap their fingers and have cow back. If I was able to snap my fingers and, and the choice was to get cow back or keep hope, I would just cut my hand off.

Matt Jones (23:15)

Let's keep hope.

Caller (23:15)

We'll be fine and we'll be fine and we'll keep fighting.

Matt Jones (23:20)

Well, we are going to keep fighting. This is a little. Appreciate the call. Do you think this is a no lose game Saturday, Ryan? Like I mean no one's expecting us to win. Arkansas I think is a seven and a half point favorite right now.

Ryan (23:33)

Maybe a no lose win. If you play well, you play like you did against Vanderbilt. I'm not going to be happy. I expect him to lose. But you, it's the way you lost Vandy that made me so upset. So you can't say that.

Matt Jones (23:43)

Can't get run. I do think Drew fans if we get blown off the court by Cal kind of for a second straight year because he kind of did it last year, too. That's not going to be good for Mark. Would you agree?

Drew (23:57)

Oh, I would definitely agree. And part of it, it's not even that. It's Cal. And I know Cal's right in front of us. I made this analogy recently, but it's like cows in my neighborhood wanting attention. But my house is on fire. And I got to worry about me right now. Like, we have so many problems with our own team. I can't even worry about Cal taunting us and mocking us having his moment because we are so bad right now. And I'm worried about next year and is Pope going to work and where are we going to find a recruit that, like, Arkansas is kind of. I mean, yes, it's right in front of us. We got to play the game. And I want to win, but it's win or lose, I'm still going to have the same concerns on Sunday morning. Probably.

Matt Jones (24:30)

What did you think about Cal saying that Mark was the perfect person for the job? Shannon?

Shannon Grigsby (24:35)

I'm starting to doubt the sincerity of him saying that.

Matt Jones (24:39)

He used to say that about Mark Fox all the time in Georgia.

Shannon Grigsby (24:43)

Yeah, he used to beat him all the time. I feel like he's kind of saying that, like, as a jab, like, keep him there. Yeah, he's a perfect guy for the job.

Drew (24:49)

Did you see what Cal did today?

Matt Jones (24:51)

What do you do?

Drew (24:53)

I got to pat him on the back on this one. He sent Kenny Payne to the press conference.

Ryan (24:56)

No, he didn't.

Drew (24:57)

Yep.

Ryan (24:58)

No, he didn't.

Drew (24:59)

That's got to be intense before the Kentucky game. Yeah, I got at least tip the cap on that. And that's a nice troll move there.

Matt Jones (25:05)

John, by the way, I gave. I gave Billy Shannon the ability to pick the co host of the postgame show tomorrow night because I can't be there. Okay. So I told you, actually, I said to him, I'd like you to ask Maggie Davis. So hopefully she can do it. But if Maggie can't do it, I decided to let Billy pick amongst whoever, and Maggie is my choice. But if for some reason Maggie can't do it, his judgment is on the line.

Shannon Grigsby (25:35)

Oh, yeah. And there's a lot of people he could go to.

Matt Jones (25:39)

He could, but I told him, not Ryan and Drew. All right? Because they. They'll. They've got other ones to do. And we'll see what he comes.

Shannon Grigsby (25:47)

Don't call me.

Matt Jones (25:51)

You're out.

Ryan (25:52)

It could be an ugly postgame show.

Matt Jones (25:55)

Well, that's why I thought someone nice like Maggie would be good. It would be a Good.

Shannon Grigsby (26:00)

I got other things to do other than drowning that sorrow.

Matt Jones (26:03)

Who's next?

Shannon Grigsby (26:05)

Another Mark.

Matt Jones (26:06)

Mark. Go ahead, Mark.

Caller (26:08)

Hey, what's going on, Matt?

Matt Jones (26:09)

What's up?

Caller (26:11)

Hey, I think you made a real good point about our offense right now. Look like Lake Cow with. Without talented players. But I'm gonna ask you a question real quick. I actually got two points real quick. If you go back like a year over this year and a half as well. Both these guys in their tenure had a more successful tenure at. In the. Over this year and a half.

Matt Jones (26:32)

You talking about between Cal and.

Caller (26:35)

Yeah, yeah.

Matt Jones (26:37)

Well, I mean this year so far it's Cal last year. I actually think it was Pope because. Because they went the same in the tournament and Pope had a better regular season. So just depends on, you know, even though he lost.

Caller (26:50)

Yeah, right.

Matt Jones (26:52)

Yeah, but I mean, remember they barely made the tournament. You know, they, they, they had to win. They had to go on a streak at the end of the year even to make the tournament. They were when, when they beat us in Rupp arena last year. Remember they came into that game one in six in the conference.

Caller (27:08)

Right, right. Hey, my last point. And actually this is kind of a controversial point because I know when Mark came on, we talked about we want to play for the name on the front of the jersey as opposed to the back of the jersey. And I actually think. I look at totally different. I actually think the guys that we have right now are playing for the back of their jersey. And I'm gonna tell you why. I think that when guys, the players Cal brought in, their ultimate goal was to get to the NBA. Most of these guys right here don't think they're going to make it to the NBA. They want this money grab that they're going to get. They know they're going to never. It's never going to get any better than it is right here at uk. And I think they're playing, they're just happy to be here. We got a bunch of average to above average guys who are just happy to be here right now.

Matt Jones (27:49)

Yeah, but that, but I mean. Okay, but that's. I don't think that's a fair. Because you might be right about that. But like that argument doesn't make logical sense. Those dudes need to play harder than anybody because you know, the whole. They're happy to be here. That should make money already embrace. Yeah, but I hate that argument. There's a lot of dudes out there, man. A lot of dudes across college basketball that are making money and playing their ass off if our guys aren't. That's on those guys and on our coaching staff. But the idea that making money makes you not want to work hard is insane. Because every goal, though, man. But what then? How do you explain the guys at Purdue? How do you explain the guys at Purdue that are not going to play in the NBA and they're playing their tail off? How do you explain that? How do you explain the guys that.

Caller (28:41)

Goes back to the coaching staff? Now, that's you.

Matt Jones (28:44)

And I agree with the coaching, but you're acting like the. The idea of getting paid makes you not want to play. These other teams are getting paid. They're playing hard.

Caller (28:55)

I mean, diabate. He gives it. He gives his.

Matt Jones (28:58)

That's one. It's not because of the money. We'll be right back. T.J. smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. he'll make him pay.

Shannon Grigsby (29:10)

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

Matt Jones (29:17)

It's my favorite Arkansas song. Top three Tom T. Hall song. It always makes me think about writing my book because we would Chris Tomlin and our interns and I, we would drive around the state. Listening to this always brings back good memories. 859-280-2287 Text Machine 772-774-5254. One person writes. Matt, I think everybody owes Ron an apology, Especially after yesterday when Mark Pope said Jaden Quaint had been completely shut down on. On court activities. You're getting closer to being right, Ryan.

Ryan (29:53)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (29:54)

And I said, it's the first SEC game.

Ryan (29:56)

I hate it. I. I was kind of hoping, hoping in the back of my mind he would come back and maybe play a little bit. But the more this drags out, the more highly unlikely we're ever going to see him again.

Matt Jones (30:07)

Are we going to see him again, Drew?

Drew (30:09)

No. We would have already seen him.

Matt Jones (30:13)

Is that definitive?

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Ryan (30:15)

When they say completely shut down on all encore activities and I mean, we're.

Shannon Grigsby (30:20)

Going into February, so it's not like we're talking about November.

Matt Jones (30:24)

Yeah. What about him saying he thinks that Cam Williams could come back?

Ryan (30:27)

That's fool's gold, too. That ain't happening.

Shannon Grigsby (30:30)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (30:31)

So you're just.

Shannon Grigsby (30:32)

Unless you make it to the Final Four or something, you think you're just.

Matt Jones (30:34)

Kind of dangling this to try to keep people's hopes up?

Ryan (30:37)

I think so, yeah. I mean, even if he's rehabilitated, he still has been off his feet for four or five weeks. It would take a long time for him to get back into playing shape.

Drew (30:47)

I like his dad has said that. I like that his dad has that attitude. You know, for years lately we were like, is this kid want to play? Is he going to try to play what's in his head? At least it sounds like Cam Williams is going to try. Now, medically, it just doesn't seem possible given the timeline, but I like that he's trying to be optimistic.

Matt Jones (31:04)

Yes, one person writes. Matt rank each of you ranked the three players most likely to play for Kentucky next year in order one through three. I'll go first, Moreno one, Cam Williams, two. Colin Chandler, 3. And I would throw Jalen Lowe fourth. That would be my order.

Ryan (31:32)

Ryan, do we get to count the red shirt guys?

Matt Jones (31:36)

No, you don't get to count Reese Potter. Stop trying to throw him in there. Oh, you can talk, you can count. Hey, thought. No, I'm not putting him in because that. That's a probably a yes. So. So take him out. The guys that are on the. Are playing right now.

Ryan (31:47)

Well, I think you hit the three guys. Then I think Marino would definitely be at top the list. I was going to say Colin Chandler, too, man.

Matt Jones (31:54)

Cam three. Or Cam or low three.

Ryan (31:57)

Or Trent, Noah, who do you want? I'm gonna go Trent, Noah.

Matt Jones (32:01)

Trent, Noah, three.

Ryan (32:02)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (32:03)

Okay. What about you, Drew?

Drew (32:05)

I had your three. Matt, without thinking, came right to my head. But I'll switch the order. I'll go Cam first because he's ending with the injury. He didn't really do a whole lot this year, so I don't know how big he'll be in the portal, but there's an appreciation for him here, wanting to see more. I think he wants to be here, so I'll say him just because of how the year's ending. Then I'll go Colin Chandler and then Marino.

Matt Jones (32:30)

Yeah, I would say if you said to me, matt, who do you think is playing at Kentucky next year? Those first three are the only three I feel confident in. After that, I don't know. I say low just because I don't know who the other option is. And I think that. But I also think there, you know, there might be some fit issues. But I know. So we'll see. But I think those three will be back. After that, who knows? And I'm not sure this story is for Shannon. Shannon, do you know who Senator Jim justice is?

Shannon Grigsby (33:06)

I don't think I do.

Matt Jones (33:08)

He's a senator from West Virginia. He was the governor for a while. You might have seen him. He's a big man. He's. He's large. Okay. Okay, kind of. He's just large.

Shannon Grigsby (33:18)

I'm looking at him right now. Looks like he'd be from Large and in charge.

Matt Jones (33:21)

Yeah, he's large and in charge. Used to be a Democrat, switched to Republican. Seems to be pretty well liked in West Virginia.

Shannon Grigsby (33:28)

Can't make his mind up.

Matt Jones (33:29)

He has a dog. Who. He named his dog Baby Dog. Now, is that a good name? First of all, for a dog to have dog in the name of your dog?

Shannon Grigsby (33:39)

No, the dog's eating well too. If it's the same dog I'm looking at right now, it's a big dog.

Matt Jones (33:43)

Would you name. Would you name like. Like, can you name a dog Baby Dog? Why wouldn't you just name it? I feel like it's weird to have dog in the name. It'd be like naming it Drew Dog.

Shannon Grigsby (33:53)

Yeah. Or just. I mean, if I were gonna call it something, just call it dog before I call it Baby Dog.

Matt Jones (33:57)

But I don't think you would call it Dog. That's the name of this. You would. Don't call it like. That'd be like your first name being human.

Shannon Grigsby (34:03)

Sounds. It's very Elon Musk of you to name your dog Dog.

Matt Jones (34:07)

Anyway, name's Baby Dog. It came out that Senator Jim justice and Baby Dog, they work during the day at their. But at. At the office. But at night, rather than go back, he shares an apartment in D.C. with someone else, like another senator. So in order to get privacy, he has his own booth at Outback Steakhouse where he goes and will sit and work from 6 o' clock to 10 o'. Clock. He and Baby Dog sit in a booth at Outback and that's where he does his work. It's a little weird.

Shannon Grigsby (34:44)

First of all, I didn't know that Outback was pet friendly.

Matt Jones (34:47)

I didn't know. Well, I didn't know you could bring. And that's a big dog. He just brings that dog. He brings that dog in Outback and apparently they both sit on chairs. Like he's on one side of the boot. I'm serious. He's on one side of the booth.

Shannon Grigsby (35:03)

Blew an onion together.

Matt Jones (35:05)

Listen, you think I'm making this up? He sits on one side and the dog sits on the other drinking Foster's beer. And it's just the two of them.

Shannon Grigsby (35:15)

What an existence. I don't want to go meet with him.

Matt Jones (35:19)

If you want to meet with him, you have to go to the Outback.

Shannon Grigsby (35:22)

And hang out with Baby Dog.

Matt Jones (35:23)

Have to hang out with Baby Dog.

Shannon Grigsby (35:25)

Sit on the side of the booth.

Matt Jones (35:26)

Baby Dog Drew, thoughts on that? As a, as a, as an office.

Drew (35:29)

Space, my first thought as a former server is going to work. You're like, I got justice in that damn dog again.

Matt Jones (35:36)

Taking up a table.

Drew (35:37)

He's gonna be sitting there all day asking for refills. The dog's gonna want water and I'm gonna get five do. So I think about that poor server who is losing a table for their whole day because Jim can't take his dog to an office like a normal person.

Matt Jones (35:51)

What about Ryan? Do you like making Outback your. Your workplace?

Ryan (35:55)

He's so full of crap. He's not working. He's watching ball games, drinking beer.

Matt Jones (35:59)

Oh, you don't think he's working at all?

Ryan (36:01)

No, he's just sitting there hanging out. Get some social interaction. He's not working. He's watching a ball game on one of the teams.

Drew (36:08)

I would think it would be, how many loaves of free bread is he gonna say?

Matt Jones (36:12)

I would think it would be very unhealthy to work it out back because, you know, you're just sitting there eating the bread the whole day.

Shannon Grigsby (36:19)

You know, I was a server at Outback for about two months and I can't imagine having to take care of that guy. And baby dog, baby baby dog.

Drew (36:27)

Imagine working with him. He passes you a bill and his greasy, blooming onion fingers are all over it. Is this ketchup on page three? Like, do you not have a place you can work?

Shannon Grigsby (36:36)

Could you get your Alice Springs chicken off the bill, please?

Matt Jones (36:42)

It's Senate Bill 311. Why is there a mustard stain? Who's next? Let's go to Will. Will. Go ahead, Will.

Caller (36:54)

Hey, Matt, thanks for taking my call.

Matt Jones (36:57)

What's up?

Caller (36:59)

Hey, I'm from Danville, Kentucky, and I wanted to give you a little Arkansas background. My wife and I moved to Arkansas to work for a friend of mine about 12 years ago. We, we lived in Hot Springs and you mentioned that it was a nice place. It might have been a nice place in the early 60s, maybe late late 60s, early 70s. It's a crappy place. Now, there's also a town, there's a part of Hot Springs called Hot Springs Village, one of the biggest retirement communities in America. We lived there with our two year old son for a while. My wife stayed home with my son and she would have cocktail hour every day with these random old people, starting about 3:00'. Clock. And it started to wear on her because I would come home and I'd be like, well, Andrew, where's Nancy today? And she'd be like, oh, she died yesterday, you know, so we kept losing our neighbors in our cocktail, our friends. So we ended up moving back. We moved back to Kentucky.

Matt Jones (37:56)

Why did you live in a retirement community, though? I mean, aren't you kind of setting yourself up for that? You all were young. Why did you move into a retirement community?

Caller (38:05)

Because there are multiple lakes there and there are eight golf courses within the gate. Gated community. And I'm a big golfer, so we'll live with that.

Matt Jones (38:14)

We'll live with old people as long as I can play golf.

Caller (38:19)

Exactly. And enjoy the lake. And one more thing about the lake area of Hot Springs goes back to Bill Clinton when he was president. So there's two big lakes in Hot Springs. One, it's Lake Hamilton. I can't remember the other one, but they had a big rain event. Clinton's family lived on Lake Hamilton, and they had to make a decision to open the floodgates and flood the bottom lake so Clinton's family's homes wouldn't be destroyed in the flood.

Matt Jones (38:49)

Well, I understand. I appreciate the call. I can. You know, I always think about. We talked about this on the show before, Ryan. When they would decide to flood these towns back in the day for Tennessee Valley Authority. Like, how did they. Can you imagine if you just decided, tomorrow we're flooding Barberville, you're gone, get out.

Ryan (39:08)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (39:09)

How did they lose their minds?

Ryan (39:11)

How would you pick one town over another town?

Matt Jones (39:14)

Back in the day, they would just tell people that you're out, you got to get out.

Ryan (39:18)

Yeah, we're gonna flood your town.

Matt Jones (39:20)

Like, nowadays, it's amazing to think that that happened without, like, civil unrest.

Ryan (39:26)

So, like, Lake Cumberland is, like, over on top of a couple cities over there?

Matt Jones (39:30)

No, there's a lot of towns in Kentucky that were flooded.

Ryan (39:32)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (39:33)

And people live there and they just said, get out, get out.

Ryan (39:35)

We're going to flood your town.

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Matt Jones (43:51)

Welcome back techy sports radio. Apparently when Jim justice was the governor Drew of West Virginia, he would bring his dog, baby dog to all the press conferences. It would be him, the sign language person and the dog. I mean, you know, I'm anti that. I'm kind of with Billy on like with Kirk Herb street in the dog. Like it's fine if you just want me to see your dog, but your dog can't be part of everything you do.

Drew (44:18)

I like dogs and I agree with you, Jim. Leave the dog at outback for an hour. Go to your press conference.

Matt Jones (44:25)

If you were the server, would you like watching over baby dog for an hour? Not at all.

Drew (44:30)

But I'm very pro dog. But I agree. Same for Herb Street. You don't have to take them everywhere.

Matt Jones (44:35)

You don't have to take your child every. Like when you're in a public job. Like you don't have to have your dog and your kid running around time.

Ryan (44:45)

And place for things that's not the right time in the right place. I do have a fun fact about Jim Justice.

Matt Jones (44:49)

Go for it.

Ryan (44:50)

Apparently he owns the Greenbrier Hotel.

Matt Jones (44:53)

Yeah, I think he owes some coal mines or he owes some taxes in Kentucky. Deals like $35 million to the state of Kentucky, doesn't he?

Ryan (45:01)

Let's go buy the hotel and we're.

Shannon Grigsby (45:03)

Gonna take baby dog as collateral.

Matt Jones (45:05)

Oh, you say kidnap baby dog?

Shannon Grigsby (45:07)

Yeah, give me the 35 million.

Drew (45:09)

I don't think he should be allowed to have another blooming onion until he pays his debts. He's paying his Outback tab.

Matt Jones (45:15)

That's a good question. Shannon, you excited about the Royal Rumble tomorrow?

Shannon Grigsby (45:19)

Somewhat. I'm going to watch. It's going to be weird because it's going to be at 2 o' clock in the afternoon. It's in Saudi Arabia, right?

Matt Jones (45:25)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Caller (45:26)

I don't know.

Matt Jones (45:27)

I don't like it being in Saudi. I don't like it being two in the afternoon.

Shannon Grigsby (45:30)

I just don't really watch current wrestling. So unless there's somebody that's like old school that's coming back, it's going to.

Matt Jones (45:36)

Be going on during the pregame show tomorrow, Ryan. So actually I'll have it on during the, during the pregame. So that'll be.

Ryan (45:43)

It's weird to watch sports in on ESPN and they're breaking, breaking down the Royal Road.

Shannon Grigsby (45:46)

It is weird.

Caller (45:47)

Yeah.

Ryan (45:47)

It's weird.

Shannon Grigsby (45:48)

Like they're breaking down a basketball game or something.

Matt Jones (45:50)

I know but like I find it really weird. Yeah, it's like it would be like break it like they don't break down a movie.

Shannon Grigsby (45:58)

I know, but you know, for the, for the amount of the money that WWE is paying espn.

Matt Jones (46:02)

I know, but they treat it because.

Shannon Grigsby (46:05)

They'Re being paid to.

Matt Jones (46:06)

I know, but they're like Austin or you know, Rollins or.

Drew (46:11)

And they're wondering why their ratings are going down.

Shannon Grigsby (46:14)

Can you bet that on DraftKings?

Matt Jones (46:16)

I'm surprised. I don't, I'm surprised they haven't done the betting on the stuff yet. Problem is you can't do it though because somebody can fix it.

Ryan (46:23)

Sure.

Shannon Grigsby (46:24)

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt Jones (46:25)

I mean you could. That's why, that's why, that's why I don't think you can do it. Who's next?

Shannon Grigsby (46:30)

David in Little Rock.

Matt Jones (46:32)

David. Go ahead, David.

Caller (46:35)

Yeah, if you. I think you're uptight about this game. You ought to have to live down here. Tell, tell Billy, tell Billy I'll do the damn post game show. I'm sure I'm gonna have a few things to get off my chest after this one. Yeah, listen, this is always for, for Cat fans living down here, which I'm have to do, have had to do for many years. This has always been the most, you know, attention filled game on the schedule going way back. Well since Arkansas join the league. But the last two years has been just unbearable. I mean it's just this. People, people. Of course I have a reputation being the Kentucky fan and people will stop me. I had this old guy at church that likes to say we stole your coach, you know yes. And the assumptions, the assumptions that these Arkansas fans make just buckle my mind, you know, and currently their assumption is that we're just hankering to get Cal back or we're just pining, you know, for, for Cal to come back and save us and be our coach. You know, they want that to be the fact. They want it to be the case that we hated to lose him, you know, anyway. They're, they're way off base, let me say.

Matt Jones (47:54)

I agree, but go ahead.

Caller (47:57)

Well, the only other thing I was going to say, I'll push back a little bit on the guy from Danville because on Hot Springs because it's fairly nice. I mean, you know, it reminds me of parts of, of Kentucky actually. It's somewhat, you know, it's somewhat mountainous. So it sort of reminds me of getting over Richmond or London or, you know, toward, toward mountains of Kentucky a little bit. It's, it's pretty nice. The other lake he was talking about is Lake Ouachita. So Lake Washita and Lake Hamilton.

Matt Jones (48:27)

I'm sorry I might cut you off because we're going to have to make our predictions. But enjoy. Good luck tomorrow on the game. I appreciate the call. All right, let's talk about it. Game starts at 6:30. Pregame show will start at 4: O'. Clock. We will go at 4:00' clock tomorrow right here getting ready for it. The watch party is tomorrow night at KS Bar with Ryan Lemon and John Cal. Peri Ryan, if we win, shirt off.

Ryan (48:51)

Fair shirt and pants probably. If we win this game.

Shannon Grigsby (48:54)

Keep my pants on.

Matt Jones (48:56)

He just, he can't.

Ryan (48:57)

I'll go outside, run around in my.

Matt Jones (48:59)

Normal in any way again. Just gets worse every time. Just gets worse as it goes. I'm going to go to DraftKings. So before he does it, go to DraftKings.combet5. Win $200 Cats in Arkansas. Use my promo code KSR. Arkansas is a 7 1/2 point favorite at this moment. Shannon, what's going to happen?

Shannon Grigsby (49:22)

Unfortunately, I think Arkansas wins and covers. I'll say 85, 76 Arkansas. I think OA has a good game. I think he scores 20 again.

Matt Jones (49:30)

Drew, give me the case. Be optimistic for a second. Make your regular pick. Give me the case.

Drew (49:35)

This is natural. I actually have this feeling. I mean, Arkansas is most likely going to win. If I had to put money on it, I'd pick them to cover. But I have not forgotten that. Every time I think John Caliper is going to win a game, he can throw in. I mean, I haven't ruled out the possibility that they can't make a three. We get kind of hot or he does the take the air out of the ball thing. Like we've all seen this movie many times where he has a game he's supposed to win and drops the ball. I do think we end up losing it. But that scenario exists out there. I'll say 80, 72, a half point cover. But don't, don't sleep on the.

Matt Jones (50:10)

That's not very optimistic. You have them covering.

Drew (50:13)

That's the most likely scenario. But people saying they're going to win by 30. There's a world where he.

Matt Jones (50:18)

We've.

Drew (50:18)

We've all seen it. We lived it. He has. He's very capable of the dud in big games. So that that scenario exists. But if I had to put money on it, I say they barely cover the spread. That's out now.

Matt Jones (50:29)

All right, ryan.

Ryan (50:31)

Rule of 71. Cats score 72 points. Unfortunately, this game's a rule of 81, 85, 72. Arkansas. I just don't have any confidence in this team at all right now.

Matt Jones (50:44)

So, I mean, people are going to see Darius Acuff for, for, for Arkansas. He's probably the leader right now for SC Player of the Year. He's one of the great. He's going to go down as one of the great Cal point guards, and he's really, really good.

Ryan (51:01)

Really good.

Matt Jones (51:01)

I don't want to underestimate what Drew says, though. Cal can put up clunkers. Last year they came in one in six. They were awful. They ended up getting the win and it turned their season around. I don't think we're going to win, but I also don't think it's implausible that this game comes down to the end. Lsu. LSU was up big on Arkansas and Blue and then ended up losing at the end in Arkansas. So it is plausible. One of two things is going to happen. It's going to come down to a minute to go and either team can win or we're going to lose by 30. To me, there's no middle ground. One of those two things is going to happen. I'm going to say it's the first. I'm going to say we lose 78, 76. But one of those two things will happen and we'll know Ryan within the first six minutes of the game.

Ryan (51:53)

You race to 10. If Arkansas got it, if they're on.

Matt Jones (51:55)

Their way, if we race to 25, if they're up 15, it's over. That's what I'm worried about. We'll see you tomorrow.

Drew (52:01)

Spin.

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