2026-02-04- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – Hour 1

Episode Date: February 4, 2026
Hosts: Matt Jones, Billy Rutledge, Drew, Shannon

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Episode Overview

In this lively Super Bowl week broadcast, the KSR crew comes to you from San Francisco, sharing their early experiences in the city, joking about hotel-room antics, and diving into everything from sleep preferences to AI-driven cars. Alongside the usual mix of banter and Kentucky sports talk, the hosts preview a pivotal UK-Oklahoma basketball matchup and debate SEC coaching jobs, all with their trademark humor and camaraderie.

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Main Topics and Key Discussions

1. On the Road: Super Bowl Week in San Francisco

Timestamps: 01:40–10:58

• The Setting: Broadcast live from Billy's hotel room at the Intercontinental Mark Hopkins in San Francisco.

• Travel Day Recap:

  • The crew shares travel experiences, noting an easy trip, good food, and a very chilly hotel room.
  • Sleep Preferences Debated:
    • Billy & Drew sleep with rooms as cold as possible (“65°F or lower”), citing “sleep experts” and personal comfort.
    • Matt can’t relate: “I try to keep it warm because I’m a regular human being.” (03:11)
  • Early start complaints abound:
    • “This time of day is for—not people. Not human beings.” —Matt (04:08)
    • Radio’s rite-of-passage: Early morning shows are not for Matt, and he jokes about producers like Nick Coffey going to bed before 8 p.m.

• San Francisco First Impressions:

  • “These hills do not play around!” —Drew (08:02).
    • Group struggled returning up a steep hill after dinner, each employing unique survival ‘strategies’.
    • “I needed medical treatment.” —Matt (08:44)
  • Billy is awed by the city’s size but more struck by seeing people sleeping on the streets than iconic sights.
    “That’s your first thing? You saw somebody sleeping on the street?” —Matt (11:11)
  • Mario’s innocent mistakes (“Is that the state capitol?”) provide comic relief.

• Hotel:

  • Intercontinental Mark Hopkins, famous for the “Top of the Mark” rooftop, rumored to be a “hot spot” for media mingling.
  • Playful misunderstanding about “hooking up” at the rooftop bar.

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2. Sports Radio Culture & Outfits

Timestamps: 15:04–16:03

• Matt enjoys people-watching in the hotel lobby.
  • “That’s a sports radio host… They all have the same look. Little slubby. A lot of quarter zips.” —Matt (15:13)
• Billy’s wardrobe under scrutiny for bringing three reversible quarter-zips.
  • “When you sweat through one, you sweat through both, though.” —Shannon (14:34)
  • “Actually, I would argue the one on the inside is even dirtier.” —Matt

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3. Hot Takes: Sleep Temperatures and Hotel Beds

Timestamps: 17:35–20:37

• Audience weighs in: “Best way to tell everyone you’re rich is by saying you keep it at 71 degrees.” (17:35)
• The group debates sleep settings, blankets, and why hotels tuck sheets so tightly.
  • “I look like a deranged man trying to get the blanket out.” —Matt (20:17)
• No one admits to keeping a hotel-style tucked bed at home.

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4. “Revolutionizing” Horse Training

Timestamps: 20:37–23:19

• Matt riffs comedically on horse racing routines—why train horses at 5 a.m. if the race is at 6 p.m.?
  • “It’s going to revolutionize horse training… Moneyball for horses!” —Matt (21:29)
• Jokes about “Horseball” and pitching the idea to trainers; all bantered with lighthearted skepticism.

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5. Kentucky vs. Oklahoma Game Preview

Timestamps: 23:23–25:18

• Must-win situation for Kentucky basketball.
• Oklahoma is struggling (eight-game losing streak); Kentucky likely secures a tournament spot with a win.
• Emotional subplot: Last year's heated matchup, near-fight, and personal rivalries between players.
  • “All the good momentum… You cannot slip up here. This is the worst team in the conference.” —Drew (24:07)
• Light crowd expected for the late 9 p.m. tipoff, but hosts anticipate enthusiasm after the win vs. Arkansas.

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6. Behind-The-Scenes: Social Media Brand Building

Timestamps: 25:54–31:33

• Billy’s Social Media “Brand” Pitch
  • Matt tasks Billy to develop a personal TikTok/video brand.
  • Billy introduces: “Billy, Are You Serious?” — a gimmick for hot takes or outlandish moments.
    • “You’ve known Billy R Sports. Next is… Billy, Are You Serious?” (28:10)
  • The rest of the crew both gently roasts and encourages him to refine the concept.
    • “I would work on your pitch a little bit. I still don’t know what… what are you serious about?” —Drew (29:08)
  • Matt shares a (self-deprecating) failed pitch meeting with Crooked Media for context and laughs.

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7. The SEC Coaching Jobs Power Rankings

Timestamps: 31:33–35:40

• New poll ranks Kentucky as the unanimous best SEC basketball job; Matt notes it’s rare for 16/16 votes.
• Texas lands as #2, followed by Arkansas, Tennessee, Florida.
• Discussion of what makes a job attractive (money, tradition, passionate fanbase).
  • “I probably would have said Arkansas to be honest… just because of how much their fans care.” —Matt (33:26)
• South Carolina named the worst job: “You are behind football, women’s basketball, and baseball.” —Matt (35:17)
• Drew highlights South Carolina’s fan base only shows up vs. Kentucky.

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8. Tech Talk: AI, Driverless Cars, and Existential Dread

Timestamps: 37:38–41:42

• Hosts contemplate taking a Waymo driverless taxi for content—Matt is wary:
  • “I’m against everything, like all this giving to robots. We’re gonna regret it one day. Did nobody watch a movie the last 40 years?” —Matt (38:14)
• Discuss risks of hacking, lack of manual override, and the government’s slow regulation.
  • “Dangerous thing you do is drive a car every day.” —Billy
• Billy predicts “you’ll see transportation completely AI eventually.”
• Shannon jokes: “Control-Alt-Delete… works for my computer.”

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9. News: Savannah Guthrie’s Family Tragedy & UK Connection

Timestamps: 41:43–43:19

• Coverage of the kidnapping of Savannah Guthrie’s mother, with a surprising UK link (former writer for the student paper, The Kentucky Colonel); discussion is empathetic and somber.

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10. College Referees & Listener Calls

Timestamps: 43:21–45:26

• Caller Mark Anthony shares thoughts on infamous ref Doug Shows—generally improved, but egotistical moments remain.
• “There’s just a look-at-me part of college basketball referees that drives me a little crazy.” —Matt (45:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Cold Room Dispute:
  • “I try to keep it warm because I’m a regular human being. But that’s okay.” —Matt Jones (03:11)
• San Francisco Hills:
  • “That is the steepest hill… That’s gotta be the steepest hill in a city in America. Easily.” —Matt Jones (08:44)
• Quarter-Zip Antics:
  • “When you sweat through one, you sweat through both, though.” —Shannon (14:34)
  • “So he has the very rare reversible quarter zip. Not one, not two, but three.” —Matt Jones (14:21)
• On Doing Morning Radio:
  • “If the best radio station in the world were to offer me [the morning slot], I’m not doing it.” —Matt Jones (04:29)
• Sleep Hot-Take:
  • “The goal is to stay warm, isn’t it?” —Matt Jones (18:39)
• Social Media Shtick:
  • “You’ve known Billy R Sports. Next is… Billy, Are You Serious?” —Billy Rutledge (28:10)
• On AI Cars:
  • “These computers don’t have souls.” —Matt Jones (40:03)
• Super Bowl Radio Row:
  • “My favorite thing to do is sit in the lobby and watch people walk in and out and go, that’s a sports radio host.” —Matt Jones (15:04)

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Segment Timestamps

• 1:40–10:58 | San Francisco arrival, hotel, hills and city impressions
• 17:35–20:37 | Listener feedback on sleep temperature; why hotels tuck in sheets
• 20:37–23:19 | Matt’s “Moneyball for Horses” horse training riff
• 23:23–25:18 | Kentucky vs. Oklahoma basketball preview
• 25:54–31:33 | Billy’s social media brand pitch and Matt’s story about pitching to Crooked Media
• 31:33–35:40 | SEC head coaching job rankings and discussion
• 37:38–41:42 | AI, driverless taxis, and existential worries
• 41:43–43:19 | Savannah Guthrie’s mother’s kidnapping and UK connection
• 43:21–45:26 | College basketball referees and listener takes

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Tone and Atmosphere

The episode balances the crew’s signature lighthearted banter with sports analysis and cultural commentary, featuring comedic misunderstandings, gentle ribbing, and inside jokes. Despite some serious stories, the tone stays upbeat and engaging, making it a lively and enjoyable hour for any UK sports—and KSR—fan.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a perfect snapshot of KSR’s style: it’s not just about sports scores—it’s about experiences, personalities, and a conversational style that feels like hanging out with old friends (with plenty of Kentucky flavor).

Transcript

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[Matt Jones]

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[Shannon]

This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, Wednesday, September 4th. I am Matt Jones and we are here at the super bowl in San Francisco, California. Coming to you live from where all the action is Billy R. Sports bedroom. You can give us a shout on the Clark's Puppet shop, phone line 859-280-2287. A Vision Autoglass text machine is 772-774-5254. In this edition sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office. If you call TJ, he'll make them pay. Why'd you say easy?

[Billy Rutledge]

Well, because there's no action here in the bedroom besides the radio show.

[Matt Jones]

I came in to Shannon to his room this morning. He had it on 65 degrees and it was the coldest thing.

[Billy Rutledge]

Oh, my gosh.

[Shannon]

You could hang meat in there.

[Drew]

Here.

[Matt Jones]

He's sleeping in here like a polar bear. Is that how you normally sleep?

[Billy Rutledge]

It's supposed to help your sleep. I hardly got any sleep last night.

[Matt Jones]

So maybe it helps your sleep.

[Billy Rutledge]

Sleep experts.

[Matt Jones]

What experts?

[Billy Rutledge]

Like my fiance who will tell you sleep? She is. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that's right.

[Billy Rutledge]

She sells mattresses. Yes, she works at Mattress firm. And she'll tell you, she'll swear by it, that you have to have a cold room to get a better sleep. And I think Drew agrees with me. Right, Drew?

[Drew]

I walked straight into the hotel room last night, started the thermostat. It stopped at 65. I would have gone even lower if it would have let me. So I was also 65 the moment I rolled into my room.

[Matt Jones]

That's what you both do. That's your. That's your sleep.

[Drew]

Yeah. Only because 64 wasn't available.

[Matt Jones]

All right.

[Drew]

I wanted as cold as possible.

[Billy Rutledge]

Polar bears over here.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I don't get that. But I don't. I try to keep it warm because I'm a regular human being. But that's okay. We are here at the Super Bowl. Got in late last night. It is. We haven't been to Media Row yet. We're gonna do that right after this show. But we got up this morning. It is. It is seven o' clock here. Billy got up.

[Billy Rutledge]

It's.

[Matt Jones]

Billy had to do a show at 6 o'. Clock. So it's very early here. But that's okay. Sun's coming up and we're ready for our working day. Drew, nice flight out here from Atlanta.

[Mark Anthony]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

No real complications Got here. Got our luggage, rental car. And now we're ready to attack the Bay Area and have all super bowl ready to go.

[Drew]

Zero complaints about travel day. Had a good time traveling. Actually got here. Had a little bit of a lap around town and a bite to eat. Then an early bedtime. Even though didn't get much sleep. Was up before Walgreens even opened this morning.

[Matt Jones]

It's.

[Drew]

It's not fun being up at 5 and there's nothing to do.

[Matt Jones]

I continue to say I have much respect for people who work jobs that get them up at this time of day. This time of day is for not people. Not human beings. Are not supposed to be up this early. And I know, like, they used to farm, like at the crack of dawn.

[Drew]

Some people still do.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew]

We still have crops.

[Matt Jones]

We do. Sunshine to those people. Salute. This is not my time of day. When it is still dark and you have to stand up. I'm not a fan of that. And even on the west coast, where my body is kind of still east coast time, I don't like. This is not this. If. If the best radio station in the world were to offer me 6am to 9 or 6am to 10, I'm not doing it. I'm not getting up at this time of morning. Every day. It's for the birds.

[Billy Rutledge]

That's what I was gonna ask you. Like this feels like a rite of passage in radio to do the morning.

[Matt Jones]

I won't. You know, they put they. I will not.

[Shannon]

You've done it before though. You've done it like once or twice.

[Billy Rutledge]

Right.

[Shannon]

For years.

[Matt Jones]

I'll do it like once or twice. And it's miserable.

[Shannon]

I gotta do it every day.

[Matt Jones]

Absolutely miserable. To do it every.

[Billy Rutledge]

Know a good.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, good for you. But you don't have to talk immediately. You come in and sit and produce.

[Billy Rutledge]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

To have to go on the air at 6am and be like. Like I, I would just. I would, I would lose my.

[Billy Rutledge]

Nick.

[Matt Jones]

Coffee starts at 5am Couldn't do that.

[Billy Rutledge]

Yeah. And I don't think you ever get used to that. I mean that's just your.

[Matt Jones]

First of all, you can't have a normal life. Yeah. If you do that. Like you gotta. Like Nick Coffey told me yesterday. He was like, I go to bed at 8. 8. Like my night is just starting at 8. I'm like, well, now there's what shows are.

[Drew]

I should get dinner.

[Matt Jones]

8 o'. Clock, come on. And then you throw in the, the. The crows and just throws crows. Yeah, that's a big part of it. Well, I mean they're, they're growing. Yeah.

[Drew]

With their beaks. I was up so early this morning, I went for a walk because I had to find water. There will be people coming into the hotel from being out and I was already up looking for something to do.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. That's another thing you get. You miss fun. I just, I don't. So. No, to answer your question, I will never do a morning show.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Billy Rutledge]

I mean the game don't even start till 9:00 Eastern tonight. Essentially Nick would be in bed before the game even starts.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. Well, the game is tonight. Kentucky and Oklahoma at 9. We will talk about that game. But we are in San Francisco so early impressions. We are at a very nice hotel we're at. It's called the Intercontinental. Mark Hopkins. Mark Hopkins, which I think is one of the nice. The top of this place, Shannon, is called Top of the Mark. Yeah. Because it's Mark Hopkins and it is supposedly the best view in. In San Francisco. We're gonna go up there. Apparently that's the place. All the reporters are up there hooking up with each other.

[Billy Rutledge]

Oh, okay. That's where I need to be.

[Shannon]

You're a married man. Be going up.

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Why?

[Drew]

Wrong thing.

[Billy Rutledge]

Oh, hook up. As in hook. Oh, okay. I thought it Was like, here's my digital business card.

[Matt Jones]

You think that's what I meant by hookup?

[Billy Rutledge]

Yeah, that was like hookup. Yeah. Like at the bar.

[Matt Jones]

I meant have things happen. Your wife is not going to like that. You were like, that's where I need to.

[Billy Rutledge]

Well, she knows my mind was in the right place, but you can move forward.

[Shannon]

You've been there one day. Not even a full day. He's already trying to hook up.

[Matt Jones]

We have. We haven't been tweeting here 24 hours and he's already talking about hooking up at the rooftop top.

[Shannon]

Can't take them anywhere.

[Matt Jones]

We're off to a great start after a great start. But. But that's where apparently all. All the gossip goes down. You find out, you know, over the years at the final Four, you find out who you know. Oh, what's going on? Is Frank Martin, you know, dating Gary Parish or dating Jeff Goodman? Yeah.

[Drew]

That year was weird.

[Matt Jones]

When we were wondering. Those are the kind of things that, that, that you find out. You're gonna. That's what we're gonna find out here.

[Drew]

It's the place to be. I've been up there. It is incredible place. And this area, as you all experienced last night, these hills do not play around. I haven't caught my breath from last night.

[Matt Jones]

Let's talk about these hills now. I haven't been here since I was a freshman in college. If you've not been to San Francisco, you see the hills and you're like, oh, that's cute, Shannon. The hills are cute. Do you know what I'm talking about? Those very hilly roads.

[Shannon]

Never been there, but I've seen them.

[Matt Jones]

Top of the mark. Alright, so we're at the top of one of the hills last night. We're like, let's go get something to eat. And it's late when we get here, so there's not a ton open. And the guy's like, yeah, there's a place down. Three blocks down the hill. We think down the hill?

[Drew]

Just right there.

[Matt Jones]

It's a hill. Come on. When we were coming up at the end of the night, I needed medical treatment. Walking up those, it was. That is the steepest hill. That's gotta be the steepest hill in a city in America. Easily.

[Drew]

When we got to the top, like, we couldn't even talk to each other. All of us are just.

[Matt Jones]

We all, hey, we all had different strategies. Okay. Drew was walking backwards.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Mario was trying to tiptoe. I was weaving left and right.

[Drew]

You're adding a lot of Steps, but not going as steep like.

[Shannon]

There's more steps if you go left or right.

[Matt Jones]

But Larry told me that Larry was like, if you walk like that, the incline is not as high, so it's more steps, but it doesn't hurt as bad. Billy was just dying, panting and crying for mother.

[Shannon]

Good for your cat muscles though. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, still burning the last half block you crawled.

[Billy Rutledge]

I did a bear crawl a little bit at the end. I thought that was necessary though, because I have never seen anything like that.

[Matt Jones]

I mean that is. It is for people who, who've just seen it on tv. It's for real like that. That's why they. I'm sure that's why they have trolley cars. Right?

[Drew]

They have to.

[Matt Jones]

That has to be why they had trolley cards. Were those hills, I would say I thought that can be completely made up, but I would think that's why they.

[Drew]

Did you see like doordashers pushing their bikes next to you going up the hill? They attempt to ride up it?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. What do doordashers do? We have breakfast coming. I may have to tip him more than 350.

[Drew]

Can you write him? Be like, are you going up that hill?

[Matt Jones]

You're going up the hill? I'm going up to 450.

[Drew]

But if he's coming down from this way, not going to pay him as much.

[Matt Jones]

I need to know where he's coming from because it's. It is quite a thing. Early impressions of San Francisco.

[Billy Rutledge]

I like it so far. I was telling Shannon, you know, I haven't been to a lot of major cities, so this is kind of a big one for me.

[Matt Jones]

You haven't been to like. What do you mean?

[Billy Rutledge]

Like New York.

[Matt Jones]

So where have.

[Drew]

Chicago.

[Matt Jones]

You haven't been to New York?

[Billy Rutledge]

Correct.

[Matt Jones]

Haven't been to la?

[Billy Rutledge]

Correct.

[Matt Jones]

Haven't been to Chicago?

[Mark Anthony]

Correct.

[Matt Jones]

Houston? Atlanta.

[Billy Rutledge]

Been to Atlanta? Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Like, didn't you just go there?

[Billy Rutledge]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so.

[Billy Rutledge]

No.

[Matt Jones]

What's the biggest city?

[Billy Rutledge]

Dallas, probably.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so you've been to Dallas? Yeah. So this is probably the. It's probably the second biggest city you've ever been to.

[Billy Rutledge]

A lot happening. I mean there's something everywhere you look, whether it be somebody sleeping on the street or.

[Matt Jones]

That's your first thing. You saw somebody sleeping on the street? Yeah.

[Billy Rutledge]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew]

Saw them.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. But there were. We saw the Golden Gate Bridge that didn't make a bigger.

[Billy Rutledge]

I didn't really see the Golden Gate Bridge.

[Matt Jones]

Like I didn't make a bigger impression to you than. There were no sleeping on this.

[Billy Rutledge]

Really? How big The San Francisco Airport is. I mean, looking for that rental car took maybe 45 minutes.

[Matt Jones]

Shannon, I love. Part of the thing I love about these trips is how is playing the game. How little does Mario know?

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Because Mario, he's such a naive young child.

[Drew]

And this is first California for both.

[Matt Jones]

First time he's been to California. So we drive past a building, and Mario goes, is that the state capitol? And I was like, san Francisco is not the state capital of California. And he goes, well, do they have it here? And I like Mario's thought process. The capital's in Sacramento. But, Shannon, they put the building in San Francisco just to make it easier.

[Shannon]

Yeah, because that would make a ton of sense. Why would they do that?

[Matt Jones]

That would make it a lot easier, wouldn't it? Like, why put the building all the way up in Sacramento? Let's put it in San Francisco.

[Drew]

We were telling him Sacramento is actually nearby if he wanted to check it out.

[Matt Jones]

We were. Harvey Milk. You. You know who that is, Shannon? Harvey Milk, the member of the movie Milk that Sean Penn was in? Yes, he was. He was a city council person, and he was killed here and that they named the airport after. So I was telling Mario that story, and it's great to tell Mario history, because it's like I'm telling him a ghost story, because he does. He's not hurt. He's not heard of it.

[Shannon]

If it didn't happen before his lifetime, he's not interested in it.

[Matt Jones]

That's exactly right. And so I enjoy that as well, Billy. It's like. It's like a whole fun learning experience.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Billy Rutledge]

Mario and I are having a great time. I knew Mario was going to be fun on this trip. When we sat down for our first meal in the airport and he ordered Patron, and I was like, okay. And then we went to the second place to eat, and then he ordered a Truly. And I was like, okay, this guy is.

[Matt Jones]

Mario was very bougie. Ordered Patron and Hummus to start the trip. That great. That great duo, Patron and hummus. Right.

[Shannon]

Before we get off, the same guy about his. His carrots and celery, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Billy Rutledge]

He went with Patron, which was not true, people. That was fake news. I did not ask the flight attendant if she had carrots and celery. Mario's doing me wrong online.

[Drew]

I have to pay Billy a compliment. I was wondering what his suitcase situation would be. We all remember the Buffalo trip. This one's much harder to pack for. You would not have been able to fit it in that little suitcase. He brought out a nice New bag on this one. So business Billy over here.

[Matt Jones]

I think it was mostly because the fans taunted you. Yes. You upped your suitcase.

[Billy Rutledge]

Yep. I've got six quarter zips ready to go for this week.

[Matt Jones]

Well, no, you don't have six quarter zip, Shannon. We learned yesterday three quarter zips that are reversible. Reversible quarters.

[Billy Rutledge]

What do you know about. What do you know about that?

[Shannon]

I didn't even know that was a thing that existed. You can reverse it.

[Matt Jones]

I didn't know you could get reversible.

[Billy Rutledge]

You like the blue I got on right now?

[Drew]

Wait, is that one of them? Oh, wait. How does the zipper work? It's a double zipper.

[Shannon]

Put your thing down, flip it, and reverse it.

[Billy Rutledge]

That's right.

[Matt Jones]

So you.

[Drew]

You.

[Matt Jones]

So he has the very rare reversible quarter zip. Not one, not two, but three.

[Billy Rutledge]

Three.

[Drew]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

To bring out over the. Over the trip.

[Shannon]

Wow.

[Billy Rutledge]

I'm prepared. I mean, we'll see how super bowl radio goes today.

[Shannon]

When you sweat through one, you sweat through both, though. You understand that, right?

[Matt Jones]

I didn't wonder that that is true. I mean, when one's dirty, they're both dirty.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

It's not like. It's not like. Actually, I would argue that the one on the inside is even dirtier than the one on the outside.

[Billy Rutledge]

Didn't think about the pit stains that are much more visible after I flip out.

[Matt Jones]

They're actually flipping. Flipping will make it worse in most cases. Okay, that's a great.

[Billy Rutledge]

I didn't think about that.

[Matt Jones]

The dirtiness is the same regardless of shirt. But we are here.

[Drew]

We are here. Having fun already.

[Matt Jones]

My favorite thing to do is sit in the lobby and watch people walk in and out and go, that's a sports radio host.

[Drew]

I was on the other.

[Matt Jones]

Same look, Shannon. They all have the same look.

[Shannon]

They got quarters.

[Matt Jones]

Little slubby. Little slubby. A lot of quarter zips. Hands in the pocket. Groups of four looking for a party. Because there's a lot of this country that this is the one time they're away from their wives is right now. And it's actually fun to watch.

[Drew]

And it's the super bowl, you know.

[Shannon]

And they're all going, where's the rooftop?

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Billy Rutledge]

So.

[Matt Jones]

Well, we know what Billy wants to do.

[Billy Rutledge]

Network, Network, network.

[Matt Jones]

The text machine is 772-77-4-5254. We will preview UK Oklahoma. We will talk a little bit more about where we're headed later today on Meteoro. We are live inside of Billy's hotel room where all the action is. That's next here on Kentucky Sports Radio.

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-774-5254. One person writes, Matt Best way to tell everyone you're rich is by saying you keep it at 71 degrees. No one does that. We have to keep it in the 60s due to electricity cost. Well, okay, sure, in the winter, but in the summer, y', all, if you're keeping it in the 60s is gonna be crazy, like expensive for the AC. So it might be expensive half the year, but the other half of the year you're the one paying the big bills.

[Drew]

I have expensive summer bills. In the winter, I don't even turn my heat on. What do we need Heat forages. I'll open a window, let the snow in. Helps me sleep.

[Billy Rutledge]

You just layer up in the winter and then it'll even.

[Matt Jones]

Are y' all common? I thought it was kind of known. I thought it was average that at 71 degrees was the average. I thought that's what people did. 70 or 71.

[Drew]

I I would have thought I'm on the low end. I wouldn't expect three out of four people in this room to be on my side. Are you out?

[Shannon]

Mine stays on like 69, 68, 69. Somewhere around there.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

In the winter, maybe I'm. Yeah, maybe I'm the. Maybe I'm the crazy one. I just. We have blankets for a reason. Like, the goal is to stay warm, isn't it? You keep saying that everybody sleeps better, but, like, isn't the point to stay.

[Drew]

Warm, get all bundled up?

[Billy Rutledge]

Well, yeah, but you don't want to be 32 degrees and trying to sleep, so you got to warm up a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but why. If you. If 65 is the best for sleep, why do you wear a blanket?

[Billy Rutledge]

I don't know.

[Drew]

It's the combination of the 65 and the blanket.

[Billy Rutledge]

Like the Goldilocks zone. I mean, they're not. Not too cold, not too hot.

[Shannon]

You're supposed to have your feet uncovered, too, right? Isn't that a thing, to have your feet uncovered when you sleep? I think that's a thing. You're supposed to have your feet uncovered from the blankets.

[Matt Jones]

One thing I hate about hotels, I can't be the only one, you know, they tuck in these sheets. That drives me crazy. I have to have the blankets under my feet. So I spend the first five minutes in bed just going crazy, trying to pull the blankets out, which, of course, makes the whole bed collapse. Like, the pad comes up. So if you look at my bed, it looks like a war zone every night.

[Drew]

And you don't want to, like, remake the bed here because you start seeing parts.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. Again, I. I don't. Maybe women do this. All right, Is there anyone in America who keeps their bed like this? Is there anyone in America that has their bed like a hotel where you have the blankets tucked under the mattress? I understand.

[Drew]

I don't do.

[Billy Rutledge]

Yeah, we don't do the comforter. We do the sheet.

[Matt Jones]

That drives me crazy. Why is this all hotels do this.

[Drew]

Why? I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

No one else in America puts their blanket under their mattress.

[Billy Rutledge]

It does look good.

[Matt Jones]

That's fine. But the point is to sleep. So I end up spending. I literally. I look like a. I look at deranged man trying to get the blanket out of the bottom of the bed.

[Drew]

I don't know. I. I just try not to mess with it too much because when you really start looking around the bed at a hotel, there's things you don't want to. So I just. Whatever situation they left me, I'll just jump in and do my best.

[Matt Jones]

One person writes, matt, my alarm goes off at 4am every day. I work with horses, and every day I say, I'm never going to do this again. But then I get up and do it again. Yeah, we've had this conversation. I don't know why horses have to race so early.

[Shannon]

Yeah, I mean, they could race in the afternoon just as easy.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going to revolutionize horse training one day. When I say, hey, why don't we train the horses at the time they.

[Drew]

Race, Let them sleep in a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

It's going to revolutionize the sport. No, I'm serious. Like, why don't we recreate the circumstances that they're actually going to race it? We practice them at 5:30 in the morning, but then the races are in the afternoon or night. Maybe we should get the horses accustomed to running at the time they're going to run.

[Drew]

I hear you, but you know, did.

[Matt Jones]

You hear it's going to revolution. It's going to be a money ball for horses.

[Shannon]

You know, basketball players do the same thing though. They have early practices. You know, they practice.

[Matt Jones]

I always thought that's wrong. Remember Mark Pope said. Mark Pope said that like when they play a game at a weird time the day before, they practice at that weird time. That makes sense to me. It's going to be called horseball and it's going to. Brad Cox, feel free to steal this until money stall.

[Billy Rutledge]

So, horses for the lazy man. If you'd like to sleep in. The map method.

[Matt Jones]

No, it's. It's about the smart man. Race the horse at the time they're going to race. Because think about it. The Derby's at 6 o'. Clock. The horses want to go to bed.

[Drew]

They're not used to running.

[Matt Jones]

They're not used to run. I mean, right? They're asleep normally at 6 o'. Clock.

[Billy Rutledge]

I don't know. I don't know. This is what you're revolutionizing right here.

[Drew]

I think it's pretty genius, honestly. Has anyone even thought about. Do the horses want to be up that early?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, I've had the thought. Do horses even want to be out here?

[Drew]

Do they even want to run? It's going to be left alone.

[Shannon]

You have to wake up the horses. Are they already awake? Oh, do they have an alarm clock?

[Matt Jones]

Well, we can train them to, to just hit snooze. We can. I just, I've always thought this is weird. Like, you know, Churchill Downs has night races. You know, they got to be entire.

[Drew]

They're got to be confused when the sun's not up and they're being told to run.

[Matt Jones]

And they're being told to run. If you want them to race at night. You're going to have to train them at night, it would seem to me.

[Drew]

So how are you going to start putting your horse?

[Matt Jones]

I have to get some horses.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Right now I don't have any. I've got parts of it that they don't listen to me.

[Drew]

But you have the idea like they people should bring the horses to you.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I don't know how to train them.

[Drew]

Yeah. What's the horse that we saved the concept?

[Matt Jones]

What?

[Shannon]

The horse that we own. What's the name of that horse that the Chaos.

[Matt Jones]

Joking.

[Shannon]

There you go. Simply joking. We can just tell them that we want him.

[Matt Jones]

Well, here's my thing. I should go to the trainer and go, look, we came in last in the oaks.

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Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Let's try something different.

[Drew]

Let them sleep in.

[Billy Rutledge]

Let's shake it up. I've got a new method.

[Matt Jones]

We didn't do so well the last time. How about we let him sleep and he'll. He'll be much more excited. Kentucky and Oklahoma Today Oklahoma comes in with an eight game losing streak. They are one in eight. Porter Moser is probably fighting for his job. They lose tonight, they're kind of done. He might even be fired. We win tonight, seven and three in the conference. I think we're probably one win, maybe two for making the NCAA tournament if we win tonight. You beat Arkansas. That was a massive victory. But now you need to drew follow it up and take care of business tonight. And what is probably the easiest game left on the schedule, on paper.

[Drew]

Yeah. I mean you've won six out of seven. Like I said, it's probably the easy. You cannot slip up here. All the good momentum, everything you built up to this point, your confidence you got going. This is the worst team in the conference. You got to handle your business at home tonight. Moser was on the hot seat last year. It was already close with him a year ago and they ended up keeping him. And now looking like this will probably be the end for him when the season's over and away.

[Billy Rutledge]

And Garrison, I mean they're Oklahoma killers.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean OA has had two games against Oklahoma that have both been epic.

[Billy Rutledge]

Phenomenal.

[Matt Jones]

Right.

[Drew]

Hopefully we don't need that tonight.

[Matt Jones]

But I mean it would be nice for him to have a third.

[Drew]

Yeah, I don't. I know they're roster a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

I don't remember how many. Right. I keep forgetting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Drew]

So I don't remember how many of the characters from a year ago remember they almost fought in the, in the handshake line. Even his old Roommate Also, this is when Brandon Garrison, Amari Williams carried him like the length of the court to get him away from the fight.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew]

So even though Oklahoma is not good and Kentucky's a double digit favorite, the emotions will still be high because of how last year went in those games.

[Matt Jones]

Crowd star only 9 o' clock sec rup game. I think so it'd be light, light crowd I think they'll be into it. I think the Arkansas game ensures people being into it.

[Drew]

Fired up.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, yeah, I think that's. That sures. And by the way, we have a special guest we'll talk about on the KSR pregame today at the bar. You can come meet a Kentucky kind of legend. Yeah, legend in my mind for sure. We'll take a break. Be right back. T.J. smith, personal injury attorney.

[Billy Rutledge]

Call T.J. he'll make him pay.

[Shannon]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Billy was complaining during the break. What do you complain about, Billy?

[Billy Rutledge]

Well, Drew told me somebody was saying Billy isn't wearing his wedding ring, which.

[Matt Jones]

Well, you're not.

[Billy Rutledge]

I'm not married yet, so I don't have a wedding ring.

[Matt Jones]

Hence why you're going to the bar tonight.

[Billy Rutledge]

People are like, put some shoes on, Billy. They're also saying, telling me that the reversible quarter zips are a crime and I should be punished.

[Matt Jones]

People like to give you a hard time about like what you're wearing and like, like people. I feel like, I feel like sometimes the audience, they pick on you a little bit.

[Billy Rutledge]

That's fine. It would, it would have meant something when I first started, but now I'm just so jaded. I don't care about those complaints with me.

[Matt Jones]

Why are you, you don't, don't be, you don't want to be like that. You have to love the audience.

[Billy Rutledge]

I do love the audience.

[Matt Jones]

The audience can be frustrating sometimes, but they are ultimately our customers.

[Billy Rutledge]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

So you have to love the audience. You can' jaded towards the audience.

[Billy Rutledge]

But like consistent criticism from the same five accounts. Like I'm able to get over that much more than I am. Like maybe when I first started.

[Matt Jones]

Well, why don't you mute those accounts?

[Billy Rutledge]

I mean, I don't know. I mean I can.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I'm just saying you did. It just, it seems, it seems to get to you a little bit now. Now, Billy, I gave a project to Billy Shannon that I want to, I want to tell the air. I told Billy he needed more of a presence on Social media. Media, Right. Because, like, I have a big presence on Twitter and somewhat of a presence on Instagram. I'm gonna pick up Tick Tock. Still haven't really done it yet. Drew has. Has the. Basically the same. Mario's big on Tick Tock, but Billy doesn't really have a big social media presence. So I was like, here's what I think. You'd be good. Billy, you need to come up with a whole, like, gimmick that becomes your TikTok gimmick. Right?

[Drew]

A brand.

[Matt Jones]

It's like a brand. That's what I said. Shannon, you need to figure out what is Billy's brand.

[Shannon]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. So last night when we got well landed, Billy announced to me that he has come up with his brand.

[Shannon]

Okay. Can't wait to hear it.

[Matt Jones]

And I'm very excited for people to. Now, when I first heard it, I wasn't all in on it, but I'm not all out. So I will. Billy, I will let you pitch to the people. What the Billy Rutledge brand is going to be on social media.

[Billy Rutledge]

Yeah. So this is on social media. Like TikTok videos. You've heard of Billy our sports. It's now.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, slow down. So that you. You're playing off of Billy our Sports.

[Billy Rutledge]

That's right.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, go ahead.

[Billy Rutledge]

So you've known Billy R. Sports. Next is Billy R. You serious? What now? I mean, a hot take an outlandish comment. Billy, are you serious?

[Drew]

Do it one more time. I'm just trying to pick down one more.

[Matt Jones]

One more like, Billy.

[Billy Rutledge]

Billy, are you serious?

[Matt Jones]

What do we think, Shannon? Billy, are you serious?

[Shannon]

I can't wait to see the verse video. Billy, I'm on your side with this one.

[Billy Rutledge]

Let's try it.

[Shannon]

Let's see what happens.

[Matt Jones]

How about Billy, are you serious?

[Billy Rutledge]

You could do it anyway.

[Matt Jones]

Like, put like Billy, comma, Are you serious?

[Billy Rutledge]

I think it's a hit. I mean, I thought it was the best idea I've had in two months.

[Matt Jones]

Which says a lot about those two.

[Shannon]

The other contenders be for your.

[Matt Jones]

What do you think?

[Drew]

It's got. It's got some legs. I. I would first. This feels like a Shark tank pitch. I would work on your pitch a little bit. I still don't know what. What are you serious about? Like, what is the actual content?

[Billy Rutledge]

It could be anything. That's. That's what the fun.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, but you can't do that when you're pitching to people. Let me get. Can I. Let me give you a story where I'm making fun of myself, okay? Okay. I got asked after the 2024 election by crooked media. Okay? They're the ones that do Pod Save America. All right? They do. They're like the big liberal podcasting company. They approached me and they were like, we're looking for the liberal Joe Rogan. Okay. And they said, we think you could. Could do that. Right? And so. But people don't know this story. So they. They brought me up there to. To kind of pitch to them. Okay? Now, I really wasn't necessarily interested in doing that, but it was like, you know, life is short. Let's have the conversation.

[Drew]

Go hear him out.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. So I go in and I was like, it's me. And they're like, well, what's the show? And I was like, it's me. That's the show. Like, it's me. Like, it's just what I do on ksr. It's just me. I talk about what I think, what my views are. And they're like, well, what are your views? And I was like, well, it depends on the issue. You don't want me to do the whole show right now. It's me. And they were like, well, but we need a little more. And I was like, it's me talking about things.

[Drew]

Did you have a poster board?

[Matt Jones]

I did, and I didn't do any of that.

[Drew]

Not a PowerPoint.

[Matt Jones]

And when I left, I was like, these people don't know me. Except one guy. Maybe I should have had Beyond. Ta da.

[Shannon]

You went all the way there to say it's me. I mean, you didn't have anything else better than that, it's me.

[Matt Jones]

Well, to be fair, the guy made it seem like I had the job if I wanted was more like, do I want to do it?

[Drew]

You'd be better off. It was just that guy there.

[Matt Jones]

Exactly. Then I got there, and I don't think the other people were on the same page as him. I think they were like, well, tell us about you. And I'm like, I came.

[Drew]

Right here in the flesh.

[Billy Rutledge]

So are you saying my segment's too broad? Like, do I need to.

[Matt Jones]

You need to explain to people what you're.

[Drew]

I'm just trying to visualize it. Don't know where you're going.

[Matt Jones]

You're looking at field of 68 came out today with the top jobs in the. In. They're doing this for every conference. What's the best job in the sport? Right. And today the SEC came out. Sixteen people voted. They voted Kentucky. All 16 said it was the best job in the SEC. Any surprise there?

[Drew]

No, not at all. In the SEC a lot of schools are going to prioritize football. You know, we're going to take care of our basketball. In Lexington. I would have to explain it all. When all the fans travel. I know there's more pressure at UK which could be a strike against the job, but otherwise I completely agree that it'd be number one.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I thought there might be somebody that just give the contrary in view that there's too much pressure.

[Drew]

The fans run you off.

[Matt Jones]

If it's not going to all 16, there's. I haven't seen another major conference where all 16 said the same one. There have been some smaller ones that have. They've been doing this all year. Now here was the rest of their rankings. Let's just. I want you all to think who would be that. What would be the second best job in your mind in the sec? Basketball. Because this was. This ended up in tears. There were four schools that I think were. Because Kentucky was tier one. There were four schools kind of tier two and then another four schools that were kind of tier three. And then there was. After that it became muddled. But what, what, what, what do you think would be the second best job in your all's mind?

[Mark Anthony]

It.

[Drew]

Honestly I don't think it would be the answer. But moving forward with the money and everything they have, Texas should be in the conversation, but they don't really have history and tradition.

[Billy Rutledge]

Mine was Florida.

[Matt Jones]

All right, what was your shit?

[Shannon]

Florida. I agree with. With Billy.

[Matt Jones]

Texas was the second best job.

[Drew]

They should be.

[Matt Jones]

They have Texas as the second best job. Little bit surprising to me that that would be the second best job. Arkansas third, Tennessee fourth, Florida fifth. Now to be fair, the, the gap between Texas and Florida is actually very small. So two through five are clumped. I think we'd probably all agree that those are the next four best jobs. I'm surprised though. Texas is at the top. I understand it. Cause they've got all the money. I probably would have said Arkansas to be honest. I think that just because of how much their fans care, I would have probably said Arkansas maybe. Then Florida, then Texas, then Tennessee. But I was a little surprised Texas was second.

[Drew]

I was just thinking about the budget and the in state recruiting. I mean honestly, they should be better than they already are. I mean they've had a few good years, but they have everything right there that they need. That's why I put them at two. Even though there's not much history and tradition like a Florida.

[Matt Jones]

Then the next four are clumped up. Who do you think's in that group after. After Texas, Arkansas, Tennessee, Florida. Vandy not in that group.

[Billy Rutledge]

Vandy not in that group.

[Matt Jones]

Two schools that have had a lot.

[Drew]

Of success recently is Alabama.

[Matt Jones]

Alabama's in the next group.

[Drew]

Worry about always being second fiddle to.

[Matt Jones]

Alabama's in the next group.

[Drew]

Auburn.

[Matt Jones]

Auburn's in the next group. I was surprised at the other two in the group. A and M. A and M is in the group. Probably also because of money.

[Drew]

Money and recruiting.

[Matt Jones]

And then the last one, they have Missouri. And then now who do you think they think. And by the way, all the voters except six put this as the worst job in the sec.

[Drew]

Georgia.

[Matt Jones]

Georgia is not the worst job. Mississippi State is 15th. Still not the worst job.

[Drew]

So it's Ole Miss or South Carolina? Ole Miss.

[Billy Rutledge]

Ole Miss.

[Matt Jones]

South Carolina, the worst job by far. They say. South Carolina is the worst job. They say you are behind football, women's basketball and baseball.

[Billy Rutledge]

The women's basketball.

[Matt Jones]

So you're basically fourth at South Carolina if you're on the men's basketball side.

[Drew]

Yeah. I was almost looking at women's basketball as, like, helping you out as an asset, but I could see falling behind them with the fan interest. I could agree with that. I just think back. We've been to that arena many times and that fan base. They're one of the better ones in the conference when. When Kentucky comes to town. But I guess the rest of the time they don't have a lot going on.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Reviews are mixed for Billy. Are you serious? But I think a lot of people think they got to see the content.

[Billy Rutledge]

It's very dependent on the. What I'm serious about.

[Drew]

Can we get our first one today at Radio Row? Maybe.

[Matt Jones]

Or maybe Yes. I think you go up to. I think you do it at Radio Row. That would be a good way to debut it.

[Billy Rutledge]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

But don't be like me and go tada.

[Drew]

Also explain to them that you're Billy R. Before you drop the Billy. Are you smart?

[Matt Jones]

Also, one of the things they said is give me an example of who you'd want to interview. And I was like, anybody. Like, that's the great thing. It could be anyone.

[Drew]

Blank canvas.

[Matt Jones]

And they were like, yeah, okay.

[Drew]

So you didn't take much of a plan of action in with you?

[Matt Jones]

I thought they were. I thought I was going up there to get them to sell me the job.

[Drew]

It really wasn't.

[Matt Jones]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back Techie Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. Text machine is 7772-7745254. One person writes, Matt in San Francisco. They have waymos where you can get in with no driver. You all should take one and film it. I think that's a good idea.

[Drew]

I'm in there. They advertise them everywhere. There's billboards.

[Matt Jones]

I've never done that. I'm kind of against it, but I do think for content purposes that would be. That would be kind of good to take away.

[Drew]

Mo you could sit in the front seat and tell it where to turn.

[Shannon]

I was gonna say, can you give up that control empty chair to a robot? You can't do a human. Can you do it to a robot?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. No, I'm against it. I'm against everything. Like all this giving everything to robots. We're gonna regret it one day. You remember Uncle Matt's words. Did you see this story about the. About the AI? You know there's supposed to be an AI bust, right? Like everything AI is like not gonna be as great as everybody said, at least in the short term. But they're saying there's already. Already a lot of early proponents regretting because they are starting to see some of the things negative that could happen. What a shock. And nobody watch a movie. The last 40 years.

[Drew]

I can't remember which of the big corporations but one of them recent was like, yeah, it started doing things we didn't know it would do.

[Matt Jones]

And we really. Yeah, yeah.

[Drew]

That we all didn't. We all say that.

[Matt Jones]

We said that. The one good thing is I do think we can control the AI Shannon. By just unplugging it.

[Shannon]

Yeah, you know, control, alt, delete. It works for my computer.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but it works for that pull the. Like, without the power. But do I need WI fi? I'm becoming. The older I get, I'm becoming more. I never thought I would do this, but I'm coming more libertarian because I'm starting to, like. See, there was an old. An old adage that when people are in charge, the absolute power corrupts absolutely. People just have a natural reaction to everything they believe in. It just goes away just so they can be, er. And I. I'm very. And I'm worried enough when it's humans, but when it's computers with no soul. No, like religion, except, like, then I'm just telling you, you just. This will be your kids.

[Billy Rutledge]

Billy, I get what you're saying, but there's also a lot of bad drivers on the road that I don't mind replacing.

[Shannon]

Yeah, but what do you do with this car when it starts going out of control? Like, what do you do? Can you jump over there?

[Matt Jones]

What do you do when someone hacks it? That's what I'm saying. Like, I understand. Like, it doesn't bother. Like, you'll see a video of a car going around in circles in a parking lot. So what? That's funny. That's annoying. What are we going to do one day when we all have all these automatic cars and. And China hacks into our system and wrecks us all into each other?

[Billy Rutledge]

Yeah. I mean, sure, that could happen. They can hack into our airlines and screw up all the flights, too. I mean, they can hack and get my.

[Matt Jones]

Now, we have manual. We have manual overrides, but if you have a Waymo with no driver, there's no manual override. So if they do that in a plane, the pilots still know how to physically do the plane if they need to.

[Billy Rutledge]

I think you'll see transportation completely AI eventually.

[Matt Jones]

I know, and that's dangerous.

[Shannon]

And Billy, why are you complaining about people getting your information?

[Billy Rutledge]

Dangerous thing you do is drive a car every day.

[Matt Jones]

I understand, but at least you're encountering other humans. These computers don't have souls.

[Billy Rutledge]

Yes, but theoretically, they'd all work better together.

[Matt Jones]

Why theoretically?

[Billy Rutledge]

Well, if there's no issues. If there's no hack.

[Matt Jones]

But there's going to be an issue. There's always an issue. History says there's always an you. You create laws and you create standards for the issues. You don't. And the problem is, when you have AI, there's no manual override. And nobody in Washington is trying to create laws to regulate this stuff because they're all just taking money from the people making it and giving them. I mean, they. They tried to pass a bill to make it to where there are no laws about AI. Like, that's insanity to me. But, like, we're getting. So anyway, I'm not. I don't want to. We're at the Super Bowl. I don't want to go off on all this stuff, but.

[Drew]

So you don't want a humanoid for Christmas?

[Matt Jones]

I do want to get in a way MO today, but I'm. Overall, I'm against it. Savannah Guthrie, by the way. All right. Her mother that got kidnapped. The story keeps getting crazier. TMZ got a note that asked for a specific amount of bitcoin to return her.

[Billy Rutledge]

Oh, God.

[Matt Jones]

And. And they think it is a credible note. She also apparently went to uk. Savannah Guthrie's mother was a writer for the Kentucky Colonel.

[Drew]

Saw that.

[Matt Jones]

I had no idea.

[Drew]

Did you know at all, you know, following this and how serious it is, I didn't expect to pop up a UK connection.

[Matt Jones]

So, I mean, it's a really sad story. I mean, can you imagine what. Can you imagine if you were Savannah Guthrie or anyone in that family? Like, what are you doing right now? It's gotta be awful.

[Drew]

This is a scenario you probably didn't think could ever happen. You're no 80 something years old, 84. And she just. Not that the Olympics matters, but she was about to go to the Olympics and now, you know, her mind's all on that. And then your mother just gets kidnapped and there's a bitcoin ransom. I don't even know how your brain could function when your life gets turned around like that.

[Billy Rutledge]

Especially when you're a public figure. Right. I mean, you probably feel a little guilty. Maybe you said something that led to somebody making this crazy decision. So it's.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it's just awful. I can't imagine having to go through that and then do it in public. Just terrible. And then the Kentucky connection is wild. I mean, I had wrote for the Kentucky Colonel.

[Drew]

Yeah, no idea about that. You know, this is obviously much bigger issue than her working at the Colonel, but that was a twist I didn't see coming. Didn't realize that there was any kind of connection there.

[Matt Jones]

All right, who's up next, Shannon?

[Shannon]

Mark Anthony.

[Matt Jones]

Mark Anthony, go ahead.

[Mark Anthony]

Hey, good morning. Matthew, Drew, Billy and Mario. Hey, Matthew, while you're in San Francisco, Mario seems a bit disappointed he's not going to see the state capitol. But you take him around and show him San Francisco's City hall. And I'll guarantee.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that's what we were driving past. That's what we. That's what he thought was the state capital, was San Francisco City Hall. And I will say that might be the nicest city hall I've ever seen in America. Maybe there's a nicer one somewhere. Someone can tell me. But that has to be the nicest city hall that I've ever seen.

[Mark Anthony]

Was the sun out when you went by?

[Matt Jones]

No, but it. But they had it lit up. It was lit up. Which made it even more amazing.

[Mark Anthony]

That roof of gold, it just glows and it sits on springs. That was amazing to me, too. They dug under it and put it on springs for earthquakes. Anyway, I thought that would satisfy. And forget the state capitol. We ain't got nothing on the city hall anyhow. And yeah, I have an unpopular opinion. Quickly. Okay, we remember. We remember Doug Shao's gun show. Doug of what, eight, 10 years ago and when he was fairly fresh at the job. And then in the. In the interim, I thought that Doug had mellowed, had. Had grown up, had, you know, studied his craft and had got to be a better referee.

[Matt Jones]

And I did, too, whenever he was. I want to go, Mark, because we got to go. We got to go to break. But I. I agree with you, Mark, on that. I actually think Doug has been a better referee. I just don't know. I think Saturday his worst instincts got the best of him. In general, I think Doug has been a pretty good referee in recent years. But like a lot of these guys, they have an ego that sometimes comes out and it's about them. And that, I think came out Saturday.

[Drew]

Moly Doug comments or complaints recently were him going to the monitor a lot. That was the new Doug we saw.

[Matt Jones]

But again, it's part of that. There's just a look at me. Part of college basketball referees that drives me a little crazy.

[Billy Rutledge]

That's why you need AI refs.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, don't even get me started with your Billy. Are you serious?

[Billy Rutledge]

There it is.