2026-02-10- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – Hour 1 Summary

Date: February 10, 2026
Host: Matt Jones, with Shannon, Ryan, and Drew Franklin
Theme: Latest Kentucky news, Ask Anything Tuesday, Tech skepticism (AI/Waymo), and UK basketball recruiting

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Episode Overview

The KSR crew delivers a lively and wide-ranging discussion, mixing Kentucky weather and school closures, AI skepticism (especially toward driverless Waymo cars), philosophical concerns about technology, and the state of Kentucky basketball recruiting. As always, the show is filled with good humor, candid opinions, and listener interaction.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lexington Weather & School Closures

[03:14 - 07:32] (Matt, Ryan, Drew, Shannon)

• Fayette County schools return after two weeks of closure, mainly due to icy sidewalks and roads.
  • Ryan: “They've been out of school for two weeks plus.”
  • Matt: “My little street hasn't been touched...the smart thing to have done would have been to shovel, but I didn’t.”
• Debating whether closures are due to road vs. sidewalk conditions; some skepticism about sidewalk as the main excuse.
  • Matt (07:40): "If the sidewalks are what are keeping you out of school, then you shouldn't be in school today. The fact that you went to school today tells me it was not."
• Jokes about not shoveling and “penguin sliding” down the driveway.

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2. Matt’s New Enemy: Waymo Autonomous Cars

[08:24 - 17:43]

• Matt passionately rails against Waymo driverless cars after his San Francisco experience, labeling them as reckless and job-stealing.
  • Matt (08:43): “It's my enemy. Waymo are the solo non-driver cars.”
  • Drew: “If Uber had Waymo, I would have picked no driver every time.”
  • Matt: “Why do you want that? We're taking people's jobs...there's going to be like 35% unemployment.”
• Describes an incident where a Waymo car traps its passenger by cutting in traffic and ending up stuck behind parked cars, causing panic.
  • Matt (12:19): “She [Waymo passenger] starts to look panicked...She put her hands on her head looking around. She was trapped in the car.”
• The crew discuss the rise of driverless tech in Nashville and Austin, with Matt expressing resistance to AI advancements.
  • Matt (14:04): “If we're ever going to unite as a country, we're going to unite around this principle: We cannot let AI computers replace humans.”
  • Shannon (13:03): “Waymo’s vehicles are now fully driverless in Nashville.”
  • Matt (15:29): “I saw that girl being trapped. It was like the movie Gattaca...People trapped in Waymos screaming, trying to get out.”
• Running jokes about Matt's “road rage” at driverless cars; he even claims a victory in a game of “chicken.”
  • Matt (16:43): “We played chicken...and it backed down. Humanity still wins!”

Notable Quotes

• Matt Jones (08:43): “It’s my enemy. Waymo are the solo non-driver cars.”
• Matt Jones (14:04): "We cannot let AI computers replace humans. That sounds like fantasy, but it can happen."

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3. Listener Calls & Ask Anything Tuesday

[20:23 - 38:04]

• Discussion continues over AI, automation, and societal effects, fueled by a listener’s comment about Waymo’s remote takeover capability from data centers abroad.
  • Text comment (21:02): “If Waymo feels confused they call a data center in Asia, and people can take over.”
  • Matt (21:29): “If all of our cars are in a data system, what if someone takes over that data system?”
• Broader societal worries about automation rendering jobs and critical thinking obsolete.
  • Drew: “We have a whole generation of kids who can’t write an email because they’re using chat GPT for everything.”
  • Matt: “What are we going to do in this country if we have 35% unemployment?”

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4. Sports Gambling and Regulation

[24:05 - 26:43]

• Caller “Harrison” asks about insider trading risks in unregulated betting apps following Giannis Antetokounmpo rumors.
  • Matt (24:50): “I do think these unregulated apps, these ‘prediction markets’ are ripe for [insider advantage]...I think government has to stop that.”
  • Drew: “You can create the bet...So, I can just steal people’s money, and I think that’s wrong.”
• They discuss the pitfalls and loopholes of celebrity bets and the need for stronger regulation.

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5. Pop Culture—AI, Movies, and Conspiracies

[26:46 - 34:40]

• References to “Maximum Overdrive” and “Duel” (AI/vehicle-takes-over movies) to illustrate collective tech anxieties.
  • Matt: “You never see the face of the truck driver...It is awesome. Go watch it sometime.”
• Caller “Brandon” asks about conspiracy theories that hosts believe.
  • Ryan: Skeptical about the authenticity of the Randolph Morris fax (UK basketball eligibility saga).
  • Drew: Discusses belief in alien technology and the Roswell incident.
  • Matt: “There’s a group of 15 to 20 people that essentially run 85% of this country...That’s to me the lesson [from the Epstein files].”

Notable Quotes

• Drew Franklin (31:33): “I’m gonna say we have some form of technology that they haven’t told us about that came from aliens or UFO. And I’ll add that Roswell was real.”
• Matt Jones (34:40): “There’s a handful of people that I think run 80 to 90% of what we do. And we all fight over these little nuggets they give us, but really they’re the ones running everything.”

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6. Kentucky Basketball Recruiting Woes

[35:43 - 37:53]

• Concern about Kentucky potentially not landing a top-30 recruit for the first time in nearly 20 years.
  • Matt: “It doesn't look like, absent a change, we will get any of the top recruits.”
  • Drew: “I'm trying to look up on the fly others...I really think this could end up being like nothing if they don't...There's not that many players left.”

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7. Denim Night and UK Merchandising

[38:04 - 46:15]

• Discussion about the huge positive fan response to “Denim Night” (throwback UK basketball uniforms).
  • Caller: “Why don't we lean into our history and do more of those kind of throwback jersey nights?”
  • Matt (42:49): “I thought the denim thing worked amazing...I am more convinced than ever we need to do more fun stuff.”
  • Drew: “We're way behind on that stuff [UK apparel].”
• Suggestions to experiment with special uniforms each year and improve UK-branded merchandise.

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8. Rick Pitino’s Enduring Legacy

[46:15 - 48:35]

• Listener tells a story about Rick Pitino gladly signing a UK 1996 championship hat, even as the active coach of another team.
  • Caller: “I can’t think of another active coach that would [do that]. So I think that guy just unapologetically loves UK.”
  • Matt: “The fact that he loves us more than he loves Louisville just makes the rivalry even better.”
• Recaps Pitino’s latest milestone as St. John’s head coach.

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9. Generational Attitudes: Self-Reliance and Government

[48:35 - 50:00]

• Caller “Bob” laments that people “are relying too much on the government” during weather events.
  • Matt: Defends that snow removal is a legitimate expectation for mayors; agrees criticism is warranted when core responsibilities are not met.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Matt (16:03): “If there’s one person fighting against AI and humanity—it’s me. I refuse to get ChatGPT...We got Google. That’s where you can look stuff up.”
• Drew Franklin (17:05): “You made [the Waymo] back down. Humanity still wins!”
• Matt (42:49): “I am more convinced than ever we need to do more fun stuff...We should have more special things...This is Kentucky.”
• Matt (34:40): "There’s a handful of people that I think run 80 to 90% of what we do. And we all fight over these little nuggets they give us, but really they’re the ones running everything."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Game & School Closures – 03:14–07:32
• Waymo/AI Road Rage – 08:24–17:43
• AI and Job Loss Debate – 21:02–24:00
• Insider Trading & Gambling Regulation – 24:05–26:43
• Conspiracy Theories & Power Elites – 26:46–34:40
• UK Basketball Recruiting Woes – 35:43–37:53
• Denim Night & Merch Ideas – 38:04–46:15
• Rick Pitino Collectibles & Legacy – 46:15–48:35
• Generational Attitudes Toward Government – 48:35–50:00

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Summary Table

| Topic | Speakers | Key Timestamp | Main Point |
|----------------------|------------------|------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| School closures | Matt, Ryan, Drew | 03:14–07:32 | Returning to school after weather; debate over roads vs. sidewalks as cause. |
| Waymo AI Rant | Matt, Drew | 08:24–17:43 | Matt’s stand against driverless cars; safety and economic consequences. |
| AI Impact | Matt, Drew | 21:02–24:00 | Concerns about automation and data control. |
| Gambling Regulation | Matt, Drew | 24:05–26:43 | Risks of insider trading on unregulated betting platforms. |
| Conspiracy Theories | All | 26:46–34:40 | Theories about aliens, government control, and powerful elites. |
| UK Recruiting | Matt, Drew, Ryan | 35:43–37:53 | Concern UK won’t land a top-30 recruit for first time in 20 years. |
| Denim Night/Merch | Matt, Drew | 38:04–46:15 | Call for more creative uniforms/UK merch based on fan response. |
| Pitino’s Legacy | Matt, Drew | 46:15–48:35 | Rick Pitino’s affinity for UK as a coach elsewhere; recent coaching milestone. |
| Generational Gaps | Matt, Bob | 48:35–50:00 | Self-reliance vs. expectations from government in local response. |

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Tonal Highlights

• Energetic, humorous, and candid.
• Mix of local color (Lexington weather, school news), philosophical debate (AI/technology), and sports analysis (UK basketball).
• Matt’s playful paranoia about AI and Waymo brings comic relief and real skepticism.

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For listeners who missed the episode:
Expect a classic KSR blend: Kentucky life updates, bold rants about technology and the future, interactive calls that swing from gambling regulation to aliens, and plenty of laughs about Wildcat basketball and Lexington idiosyncrasies.

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[Shannon]

This is Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome, everyone. This is Kentucky Sports Radio, Tuesday, February 10th. I'm Matt Jones here on what will be the warmest day in a month in Lexington, Kentucky. You can give a shot on the Clark's Puppet shop, phone line 859-280287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254 in this dish and sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office. If you call TJ, he'll make them pay. We are in studio today. We'll be at the bar tomorrow and Thursday if you'd like to come and say hello. We hope you do. And today getting ready for we're going to do an Ask Anything Tuesday. All right, since I'm in studio, 859-280-2287. We will take more calls than usual. And take your calls. 859-2802. So get in. We got a full house here ready to go. Nice to see you all.

[Ryan]

Fayette county back in school today. So back in school. Getting normal, I guess, around here a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Supposed to be what, 60 today?

[Ryan]

60 degrees.

[Matt Jones]

So they've been out of school for two weeks plus.

[Malcolm Glabel]

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[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And now they're back back.

[Ryan]

But yet the streets are still a mess. So hopefully the. The sun today will at least be a slushy mess.

[Matt Jones]

My little street hasn't been touched. But I mean, I understand my street should be one of the last touched. I get it. But. But you know, the thing is, Drew, when you don't shovel your driveway, it stays.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So it's like a block of ice. And for people who don't know, it's. It's a hill. So, like, I just, I had to kind of. Well, I might have slid down.

[Drew Franklin]

That's the good thing. You can get out. It's just hard to get back up. Yeah, you can Always go down.

[Matt Jones]

Well, you can walk up the grass, but going down, everything was just ice this morning. So I just. I just sat down and.

[Drew Franklin]

Penguin your way down.

[Matt Jones]

What? I just sat down and slid down the bottom of the thing.

[Ryan]

Yeah, because you got your front door, but your car's in the back, and you got to go down a little hill to get to your car.

[Matt Jones]

There's nothing. There's no easy way to do it. But. But, I mean, the smart thing to have done would have been to shovel, but I didn't.

[Ryan]

You weren't here.

[Shannon]

I want to shovel, though. It's going to melt today. I was watching my neighbors yesterday, shoveling ice, and I'm going tomorrow. It's going to be 60 to be melted.

[Matt Jones]

See, now you're. You're thinking like me. One day of sliding on your butt makes up for three hours of shoveling. I think I'll choose the one day of sliding on my butt.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm glad it's 60 today, but what I have is not melting until April. We'll get. It'll get a little rundown, turn to some mush, but I'm gonna have ice for long. This is a picture of my sidewalk. What am I supposed to do with that? I can't even smile. That will be there in May, I think.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I went for a walk yesterday, and it's. You know, the sidewalks. It's. It's basically, you can see who's kind and who's not. It's. It's. And. And I don't want to talk about what my sidewalk looks like, but you get to see, like, as I walk down the sidewalk, a little clear stretch. I'll look at those people, and I'll say, well, God bless those people. And then the next one is. Is sheer ice. And so, you know, it is what it is. The. The city of Lexington really screwed this up. There's still fights now about who's. Well, I mean, I think everybody agrees it's the city's fault. I did. I see they got rid of the guy in charge of that.

[Ryan]

Oh, I don't know. Did they?

[Matt Jones]

I might be making that up, but I think I read that whoever was in charge of snow and ice, and to be fair, I don't know, that person might be a big KSR listener. And if so, I'm sure you're a good fella, but, like, you have one job. Like, in the summer, you're. You're good.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

In the summer, like, you can vacation, I would say pretty easily. So you're. You're performing for, like, a few days a year, and I think you failed. So I think I could understand if they lost their job.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I mean, we have you for this moment. Like, we don't need you most of the days.

[Matt Jones]

This is the whole thing.

[Drew Franklin]

You're almost like a kicker. Not even a kicker.

[Matt Jones]

Kickers kick more.

[Drew Franklin]

But, like, we do all this, and then we bring you on for this one thing. Don't let us down. And you let us down.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. It's like you would be in charge in New Orleans of the Mardi Gras festival, and then they just didn't have Mardi Gras that year. Like, everybody would come and then go, I forgot the floats. We don't have any activities this year. Hope you're good with that.

[Ryan]

Well, that's the thing, you know, with the sidewalks. I think that's why Fayette county kept canceling school, because the sidewalks were, like, all ice. They were afraid the kids walking down the sidewalk might slip on the ice. So what necessarily. The roads. It was the sidewalks also.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know about that. Did they cancel school because the sidewalks.

[Ryan]

It was a concern in addition to the roads.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. I think that's a cop out, because the city. The issue is buses on. I mean, first of all, if the sidewalks are what are keeping you out of school, then you shouldn't be in school today. The fact that you went to school today tells me it was not. You got. You have to use rational thinking. If you're telling me you can't go to school because of the sidewalks. Sidewalks are still awful. You're going to school today. Which means it wasn't the sidewalks.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

It was the roads. Or you're just tired of listening to parents complain.

[Shannon]

That's probably the concern.

[Ryan]

Get them out of the house.

[Matt Jones]

Ding, ding, ding, ding.

[Ryan]

Please go back to.

[Matt Jones]

Which also. That may be true as well, but, you know, kind of is what it is. Now we. We're back in Lexington. One of the things I didn't get to talk about yesterday is. And Drew can. Drew can tell you this. I have a new enemy.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh.

[Matt Jones]

I, Shannon, have something new that I hate that is inevitably going to be a thing. But I am going to go on record and saying, like, with pickleball, I will never participate.

[Ryan]

What is this?

[Matt Jones]

Waymo?

[Drew Franklin]

You're out on Waymo.

[Ryan]

What?

[Shannon]

What? Hold on.

[Matt Jones]

Way more.

[Shannon]

What is way more?

[Matt Jones]

It's my. It's my. It's my enemy. Waymo. Are the solo non driver cars.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

All right. So in San Francisco, I don't know if there's any other city. Like when we were in Phoenix, we saw like one or two San Francisco. They're everywhere. Okay. Waymo is. What would you say? 10 to 15% of the cars?

[Drew Franklin]

Sounds about right.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, Shannon, a lot of cars are Waymo, okay? And they've got like. It's a car and on top it's like a spinning thing that. I don't know what the spinning thing does. I guess it's what the cameras.

[Drew Franklin]

What do you. Cameras on the. On the mirrors. There's lots of cameras around it.

[Matt Jones]

But it drives on its own and it's ugly. It's a little scary looking. And I just decided I hate them. Because, Shannon, they think that there's no driver. They can do whatever they want.

[Shannon]

They technically can.

[Matt Jones]

Well, they're a robot.

[Shannon]

They can do whatever.

[Matt Jones]

That scares me.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Because they. One of them cut me off in traffic. And the thing is, when somebody cuts you off, Shannon, what do you want to do?

[Shannon]

Honk the horn?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. This thing's not even there.

[Shannon]

You're cussing at a robot who doesn't have feelings.

[Matt Jones]

I'm.

[Ryan]

I am.

[Matt Jones]

I'm like flipping the robot off. Get that robot.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And there's not anything you can do. So we were kind of half jokingly me being mad at Waymos the whole time. And then one day. Andrew, you got to back me up on. We saw Waymo. We saw the danger. All right, you got a picture? The San Francisco streets are all like. Not all, but some of them are way steep downhill and way steep uphill. Have you ever been?

[Ryan]

No. Just seen the. Seen the pictures and videos.

[Matt Jones]

Streets.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Gotta be the steepest streets in the country, don't you think? Certainly in a residential neighborhood. I mean, there. There are. I'm sure there are steeper mountains, but in terms of a street in a city, in a resident has to be the steepest streets in America. We're going downhill. Friday, five o', clock, massive traffic jam. Okay, so we're creeping. We probably went a mile and 30 minutes. That fair this way. Most trying to pull out, Shannon. And I'm of the view. Honestly. Screw this way. We're not this Waymo. Yeah. It could just sit there. The Waymo takes it on its own to go. I'm cutting in front of everybody. The Waymo cuts in front of three lanes of traffic.

[Ryan]

Oh my.

[Matt Jones]

Essentially stops the traffic, of course. I'm one of the first cars, Shannon. I'm honking at the Waymo. I'm calling the number on the side of the phone or on the side of the car. I'm mad. It has this girl in the passenger seat. I think she's by herself. But here's why the Waymo's stupid. It's just looking for clear land, right?

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So it goes across the three lanes, which are full with traffic, then gets in the fourth lane, which is a parking lane.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Because there's a couple open parking spots. Shannon, it thinks it's a lane.

[Shannon]

Yeah. It thinks it's zipper merging, but it's going into a.

[Matt Jones]

It's going into a parking lane. So then it drives up to a parked car because the thing's too stupid to know who's in the car or not. And then it's stuck. And we saw this. It's stuck behind parked cars. It's trying to get back the rest of the cars without talking. We've unified. You ain't getting anyway better, boy. And you might not get in for months. And the girl, Shannon, is trapped in the car. Yeah.

[Shannon]

She's ready to get out.

[Matt Jones]

Drew my wrong. She starts to look panicked.

[Drew Franklin]

She put her hands on her head looking around.

[Matt Jones]

She put her hands. She was like hitting the window.

[Ryan]

Let me out of here.

[Matt Jones]

She was trapped in the car that was behind the parked cars. And I knew at that moment, Shannon. I'll never get in a Waymo.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

It trapped this poor girl. Now, I still didn't let the thing in.

[Shannon]

You shouldn't.

[Matt Jones]

Crab tire. Because cut off all the traffic. So think of Waymo as the rudest driver you've ever met. And then 15% of the road.

[Shannon]

Now, I know that you think that you're not in San Francisco so you want to deal with these Waymos anymore, but I just googled Waymo, and the first story that popped up is Waymo. Waymo's vehicles are now fully driverless in Nashville.

[Matt Jones]

Nashville is. You're going to have to unite.

[Shannon]

Yeah, we.

[Matt Jones]

You're. You're going to have to unite. We now know their weakness. Make them think it's a lane.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Trick them.

[Ryan]

Trick them and trap them.

[Matt Jones]

And then trap them. Trick them.

[Drew Franklin]

So we're at war with Waymo. The other opposite. I was trying to get Waymos the whole time. If Uber had Waymo, I would have picked no driver every time.

[Matt Jones]

Why do you want that? We're taking people's jobs. We just keep doing these things. They're going to take people's jobs, and then we're going to get here in 15 years and. And you know, there's going to be like 35% unemployment. And people are going to be like, how did we get here? And it was because of Waymo and was cause of the automatic groceries.

[Drew Franklin]

I think it's already here. I don't think we're stopping it.

[Matt Jones]

I'm. I'm doing my part.

[Shannon]

You're trapping them one.

[Drew Franklin]

The idea of sitting there with a laptop by myself, taking my time.

[Matt Jones]

Then what are you going to do though when you don't have any work? Like they're going to go, we don't need Drew Franklin all the articles.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, my real answer is we should have trains. Not to get that deep. But I'm not afraid of Waymo. I'd be. I'd happily ride with Waymo.

[Ryan]

I think I get it tickled just thinking about you honking your horn at a driverless car like I was mad at it.

[Drew Franklin]

See the road rages and it's he.

[Matt Jones]

Or she is who is he and who is she? And who do they think they are?

[Drew Franklin]

You heard the car feeling they're the doc. Wouldn't you want to be on their side? They're the ones winning. They're dominating. Well, they cut us all.

[Matt Jones]

They're not people. That's what I mean.

[Drew Franklin]

I could just chill human worry about.

[Matt Jones]

It are more important than computers, corporations. This is going to be the thing that if we're ever going to unite as a country, we're going to unite around this principle. And I genuinely think this could happen. We cannot let AI computers replace humans. And that sounds like fantasy, but it can happen. If we let these way mo's take the road. What if they just unite and decide to drive us all in the ocean?

[Drew Franklin]

It's too late. They're already doing it. Already in three.

[Matt Jones]

Not getting in. I'm not getting in there. Here, Shannon.

[Drew Franklin]

They'll be in Clay county in five years.

[Matt Jones]

They won't respect people's property and people will end up shooting it.

[Drew Franklin]

That was my extreme exact. I think they're only in San Francisco, Austin and now coming to Nashville.

[Ryan]

Wow.

[Drew Franklin]

They're all over Austin too. I think it might have been a different.

[Matt Jones]

I'm telling you, Nashville, Louisville.

[Shannon]

Before you know it, we'll have them. We're talking market.

[Matt Jones]

I saw that girl being trapped. It was like the movie Gattaca. I think that came out 20 years ago and it warned us of what was to come. I saw what was to come. People trapped in Waymos screaming, trying to get out.

[Ryan]

Waymo locked the door so she couldn't get out.

[Matt Jones]

Waymo locked the door and said, you are mine now.

[Drew Franklin]

Plays its Own songs. You gotta listen to whatever it wants to listen to. Right?

[Matt Jones]

You're just at its mercy.

[Drew Franklin]

I love the road rage where people yell and I think you might have done it. And then you realize no one's there.

[Matt Jones]

I'm like, well, I knew I wanted to know. There's one person fighting against AI and humanity. I refuse to get chatgpt. I know everybody's got the pictures and I'm going to grant you they're funny. I ain't doing it. You know, we got Google. That's where you can look stuff up.

[Shannon]

Here's a Waymo that ran over a cat in October of last year, killing the cats.

[Matt Jones]

Killing cats, wow.

[Drew Franklin]

Cats die every day. People hit cats every day.

[Matt Jones]

I understand. But these, they do it with. With anger that could have been a little suitable out there. And they're, they're. They're coming after us.

[Drew Franklin]

I'll give you credit. You're one and oh, on a one way street with a one with a one way coming your way.

[Matt Jones]

We played chicken. Coming. Coming at me. It was a chicken. And I said, oh, you're moving Waymo.

[Drew Franklin]

That one.

[Matt Jones]

And it backed down.

[Ryan]

Did it?

[Matt Jones]

Had no choice.

[Drew Franklin]

It was hilarious. We saw the car ahead and we're like, this is weird. It's a tiny narrow street. We're coming at each other. And as we got closer, we're like, oh, it's a Waymo. It's on.

[Matt Jones]

I felt like the moment that the. The human guy beat the. The computer in chess.

[Drew Franklin]

You made him.

[Matt Jones]

He's left that humanity still.

[Shannon]

Which is interesting because the Waymo has nothing to lose. Like you have a life in theory to lose. The way.

[Matt Jones]

Surrender to Matt.

[Shannon]

Yeah. The Waymo shouldn't care.

[Matt Jones]

It knew what was up. He didn't want me to unplug it.

[Drew Franklin]

Power down. Power delete it.

[Ryan]

I think the most shocking part of this whole story is that you let it merge in front of you. I didn't think you'd ever let anybody let it.

[Matt Jones]

The car in front of me did. I have no choice.

[Ryan]

In front of you did it.

[Matt Jones]

The car in front of me was weak. I'm gonna be strong.

[Ryan]

That's right. You'd be very strong.

[Matt Jones]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back Techie Sports Radio. Ask anything Wednesday or Tuesday. Some folks are always like, hey, I can't get a show. Here's your moment because there's three calls. One is Bob and Shane's dad, which means there's two calls and eight, five nine to Reno 23 he missed you and you're gone. 772-774-5254 One person writes, Matt, only 10 to 15% of cars are in San Francisco that are like that. I thought it would be way Mo.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Matt Jones]

That is a good joke. Great joke to be fair. I mean I know nobody laughed but there you go Shannon. I had a big smile that wasn't good for radio. I mean it's not a hearty horror laugh but that's a.

[Ryan]

Didn't see it coming. So a good joke.

[Matt Jones]

That's a good, good joke. One person writes, matt, it's not that way. MO's are 100% driverless. There's actually a spot where if they feel confused they call a data center in Asia and people can take over.

[Ryan]

Oh boy.

[Shannon]

I don't know. Even worse. I think that's worth even.

[Matt Jones]

That's worse. So you're telling me somebody in, you know, Thailand is driving my car.

[Shannon]

That means at any point they could just jump in there if they wanted to.

[Matt Jones]

That's the thing. Like I don't think people think about if all of our cars are in a data system. What if someone takes over that data system?

[Ryan]

Yeah, right.

[Matt Jones]

What if you take over all human control from someone? I was telling you man, like I'm going to be wearing a tinfoil hat at some point. You know, I'm not going to be somebody who gets old and is on Facebook yelling about about politicians. But I might be the guy that's 70 and is like I told you people about relying on non human things this much. What are we going to do in this country if we have 35% unemployment? Seriously, what are we going to do?

[Ryan]

Can't just find new jobs around underneath the rock.

[Matt Jones]

I mean but. And we're going to.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I don't think you're wrong. I just think it's already too late.

[Matt Jones]

We have, we have just give up.

[Drew Franklin]

We have a whole generation of kids who can't write an email because they're using chat GPT for everything.

[Matt Jones]

What about write a email Even that's only 40 years. What about just write.

[Drew Franklin]

That's what I mean. Like there's not going to be any thinking before too long. And I think we're already getting too late because people are already loving it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean there was a. Okay, I'll shut up about this. But there was, there was a picture somebody put up and they were like. And it was you. Ryan posed with someone else or. No, it was Billy posed with someone else. And Somebody asked, chat, dpv, Jet Chat, GPT. Who's the person next to Billy? And it said Ryan Lemon, and it wasn't you. And then they go, it's not Ryan Lemon. Who else? Who is it? And they were like, it's Matt Jones. Now you and I don't even look like each other, and we really didn't look like the guy in the picture. So when you see that, you know, it makes mistakes. And now there are people who just believe that's true about anything.

[Ryan]

That's true.

[Matt Jones]

So. And what if the person that runs. Well, I'm done just saying.

[Drew Franklin]

Wait till we have humanoids that are in our house doing chores for us. And by the way, they're making those now.

[Matt Jones]

Party. Waymo had a thing. They were giving away free hats. Shane and I refused it.

[Shannon]

You didn't want the hat? I don't want.

[Matt Jones]

I didn't want the hat.

[Shannon]

Free name on it.

[Matt Jones]

I didn't want to be associated.

[Drew Franklin]

What was that big event? Remember we passed. People are lined up around the corner to hear from, like, AI God or something.

[Matt Jones]

Apparently, there's a new there. So we walk down the street and there's a line two blocks long, and I'm like, what's going on? And they're like, the new super AI is being debuted. And I was like, see?

[Ryan]

Oh.

[Drew Franklin]

And it was a long. You would have thought the biggest band.

[Matt Jones]

Ever was one guy looked at me directly in the face and goes, this is the future. And I was like, I'm gonna go get a soda across the street. I don't. I don't have anything to do with.

[Shannon]

A robot bringing it to you.

[Matt Jones]

It's true. I don't even get a human to.

[Drew Franklin]

Bring it to me.

[Matt Jones]

Harrison, go ahead. Hey, Matt.

[Caller]

First time, long time.

[Matt Jones]

Who are.

[Commercial Announcer]

So.

[Caller]

Recently, the NBA trade deadline came up, and Giannis Antetokounbo was spreading rumors that he might be traded to a different team, leading to people on the Kalshi app, where you can bet on anything to bet that he would be traded.

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Caller]

And so apparently, 20 ish million dollars was put on Giannis that he would be traded to a different team. And then last week, it was revealed that Giannis might be a. Is coming out to be a partner with Kalshee. My question is, do you think that maybe in a legal standpoint, that these sports gambling apps should be more regulated to prevent this sort of insider trading?

[Matt Jones]

Yes. So I am. I am. As we know, we were a big advocate in legalized gambling, and I still think it's a Good thing. Well, good. I think it's fine. It's a vice that people can have that I think is if done in control. Okay. I do think these unregulated apps, these quote unquote prediction markets are ripe for. Because. Because there are people out there that know the answers, Right? So, like, Giannis knew whether or not he was going to be traded. And for him to, like, I do think that's sketchy.

[Drew Franklin]

And you can create the bet. You can know something and just make the bet for other people.

[Matt Jones]

So I go, is Matt Jones going to eat Chipotle for lunch and let people bet? But I know whether or not I'm going to. So I can just steal people's money, and I think that's wrong. I think government has to stop that.

[Drew Franklin]

Did you see the super bowl insider get burned?

[Matt Jones]

What?

[Drew Franklin]

So somebody was betting all kinds of crazy money on very specific super bowl stuffs, including, he bet $200,000 that Cardi B won't perform. They took his money and said by her dancing on stage. She performed. So there's like, a big debate. He's even tweeting at Kalshee saying it shouldn't be that way. It's like a friend of Drake's. He had all very detailed. It's very clear he knew what he was doing. Except they still counted Cardi B by her being with the sugar canes.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they took his money. I never bet on those things because I think they're so easily manipulated. Everything in life needs to be regulated. And so, yeah, I think those things need to be regulated.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, on the apps, when it's like, first song, Bad Bunyo play, they have a cap of like, 25. You couldn't go bet a million or something crazy if, you know, okay, congratulations. You may. I'm saying, this new cow she thing, there's no limit. You can bet whatever you want on these things where you obviously know the answer. At least the gambling apps we have now, they won't let you bet more than, you know, a handful of money.

[Matt Jones]

Brandon. Go ahead, Brandon.

[Caller]

Hey, guys. It's almost like we're living in the movie Maximum Overdrive. Do you remember that one?

[Matt Jones]

Do not. But I. But. But if it. Who was in Maximum Overdrive?

[Caller]

Emilio Estevez.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, wow.

[Shannon]

So the trucks took over and had, like, a mind of their own, right? Isn't that the movie?

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

See, there you go. Just on that. Have you ever seen the movie Duel?

[Ryan]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Scariest movie.

[Caller]

Oh, yes.

[Matt Jones]

It's about this guy. He's driving down the street and Then this trucker just decides to. It was Steven Spielberg's first movie. A trucker just decides to come after him. And you never see the face of the truck driver, but everywhere he goes, the truck driver's there and trying to wreck him. It's like an hour and a half of tension. It was Spielberg's first movie. It is awesome. Go watch it sometime. All right. Sorry. Go ahead.

[Caller]

I think we need to befriend these AI robots because we're gonna need them against the aliens.

[Matt Jones]

But no.

[Caller]

My question for you all, if you don't care, what's the biggest conspiracy theory that you all believe in that you don't think the other guys in the KSR will.

[Matt Jones]

Would.

[Caller]

Would expect? Thank you.

[Matt Jones]

That's a good one. I like that question. And by the way, appreciate the call. Thank you. So we'll talk about that after the break. What's the biggest conspiracy theory we each believe in that we don't think the other ones would. Would be. Would think we do. I also want to talk UK basketball. Mark Pope talk last night. We're not going to just be conspiracy theory. I do want to do some basketball. We'll take a break. Be right back.

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. Tech Sports Radio. Got some fellow fans out there on the text machine of Duel. Neither. You've not seen it. It's like 70s, late 70s maybe. Well, I don't know when Spielberg's first movie was, but like it's just one guy and a truck.

[Ryan]

Trucks chasing a guy, trucks chasing.

[Matt Jones]

You've never seen, but it's like an old beat up old like, you know, semi truck. And it's so scary because you're like, this guy gonna ever get away and he tries all these things to get away and no matter what he does, he's right there. It's great. And you can see why. You can watch it and see why Spielberg. I think it was a TV movie, but you can still find it. All right, you gotta watch it. It's kind of your speed. Dual D U E L. Okay. One person writes, madam get married Saturday. Kentucky Florida game will be starting as we are close to finishing the reception. Do I cut the reception short or what else can I do? No, put it on.

[Ryan]

Just put it, put it on in the corner if you have to.

[Matt Jones]

Especially if you're, if you're, if you've gotten through the whole thing. Your wife wants like the dance and the cake and the little thing under your leg that they throw to the bridesmaids. What. What do you call that thing? What's the.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, the garter.

[Matt Jones]

Garter. If you've gotten through all that, then, yeah, just put it on the side. People can watch it for a bit. It'll be a chance for them to Congress.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Hot take. Like you're saying, if everything's done, I've had some fun game watch parties. Because, like, all your friends are there. There's an open bar. Exactly.

[Matt Jones]

That's.

[Drew Franklin]

As long as there's a TV and a good setup, it can actually be a fun party. But as long as all the other stuff's done and you can focus and no one's like, hey, why are 15 dudes huddled around that TV over there?

[Matt Jones]

Did I tell you in San Francisco, a guy came up to me and said, I'm getting married at Harper Hall.

[Ryan]

Really?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. From here? They were from Kentucky, and they're coming back here and getting married at Harper Hall.

[Ryan]

So they work out there now.

[Matt Jones]

Live out there now in San Francisco.

[Ryan]

Coming back here to get married.

[Matt Jones]

That was crazy. All right. Conspiracy theory, you believe in? Okay, Ryan?

[Ryan]

I actually have two, but I think one you guys also believe in.

[Matt Jones]

Give me the one we don't believe.

[Ryan]

In, in the one that you guys may not believe in. And you can try to convince me all you want, but the fact that Tubby Smith found that mysterious Randolph. Randolph Morris fax in the bottom of.

[Matt Jones]

His desk drawer, I think everybody knows that was nonsense.

[Ryan]

Well, there's people. There's documentation on big blue history.net that says it's not true.

[Matt Jones]

What do you mean there's documentation?

[Ryan]

Oh, there's some big story there about it.

[Matt Jones]

That we may have the Randolph Morris facts.

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

So you just don't believe there was a fact?

[Ryan]

I believe it was. They found one, but it was a mysteriously fabricated one or something.

[Matt Jones]

So it was fake.

[Ryan]

Fake.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. I mean, I don't think that's a crazy. I thought we were gonna do something much bigger. This is a. That's a Facts about eligibility in 2005.

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

All right, Drew, this is my topic. You know, I could go the CIA route. They're definitely lying about a lot of things and control a lot of things. But I think I'll stick with aliens because that's kind of my brand on this show. I'm gonna say we have some form of technology that they haven't told us about that came from aliens or ufo. And I'll add that Roswell was real. Because I've been there and seen what happened. And I believe every single one of those people. And it's a shame that they've made them all sound crazy.

[Matt Jones]

I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna speak with a raving lunatic on the sidewalk like, oh, I.

[Drew Franklin]

Could do MK Ultra if you'd want to go down that hole.

[Matt Jones]

All right, that's fine. I think that's crazy, but that's okay. Shannon.

[Shannon]

See, Drew and I believe the alien thing, so we kind of cancel. Because I agree with Drew. I think there are aliens. There's been too many sightings of UFOs to not be something out there.

[Matt Jones]

And yet no good picture.

[Shannon]

Oh, there's plenty of good pictures.

[Drew Franklin]

You all just don't open your eyes.

[Shannon]

They're always to look at.

[Matt Jones]

And they black and white. We took a picture of ludicrous from 500ft today and could see a pimple on his face. And you're telling me there's not one picture of an alien that's a good picture that doesn't look blurry, black and white and.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, they're not having concerts inviting 10,000 people.

[Matt Jones]

So why are they going to these random little towns, people's houses, when they.

[Drew Franklin]

Get here, they don't know the difference between town.

[Matt Jones]

Also, they're so smart. They can get here, but they can't figure out which town is which.

[Shannon]

How they want to figure out how to use way how they get here.

[Matt Jones]

If they're not smart.

[Drew Franklin]

That's what we're trying to figure out. You know how big the universe is? Do you know how arrogant is to think that we're the only thing that said.

[Matt Jones]

You said that they're here. I'm willing to say they're here.

[Drew Franklin]

At no point did I say they're here. I said we have technology.

[Matt Jones]

From where'd we get it?

[Drew Franklin]

They landed in Roswell.

[Matt Jones]

That was years. They're not at Kroger with us. They came years ago. They chose New Mexico.

[Drew Franklin]

Survive.

[Matt Jones]

The United States. Let's be as ethnocentric as possible.

[Drew Franklin]

There's been sightings in Brazil. They're all over the world. Why do you think Americans are the only place.

[Matt Jones]

And I've yet to see a picture.

[Drew Franklin]

You're not looking. Open your eyes.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, what is yours? Well, mine is not. First of all, I don't believe in conspiracy theories, but if I were to pick something that I do think is true, I do think, and this happens more and more every day, that there's a group of 15 to 20 people that are. That essentially run 85% of this country. The kind of elite, two or three people that run the major media companies, the banks. I do think there's a group of people and then a cut, and then they. There's a couple politicians probably on each side. That's the big lesson of the Epstein files. The big lesson is that all these elite people know each other and that they communicate with each other all the time, regardless of what you think of. I mean, obviously the other stuff is awful, but whether you believe someone's involved or not involved, look at the emails show you that they all know each other and they all communicate with each other all the time. And there are people like him who have these major roles in the running of humanity that we don't even know who these people are because no one had heard of this guy before this happened. Right, right. That's, to me, the lesson. And so I think that I've always kind of believed that, but I think it's even more true now. There's like. And the number of people is getting smaller and smaller. There's a handful of people that I think run 80 to 90% of what we do. And we all fight over these little nuggets they give us, but really they're the ones running everything.

[Ryan]

So this group of people, you're saying they're the ones blocking the release of the Epstein files? This group of people.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I don't know. Probably, somewhat. But it's not about the Epstein files. It's just about all everyday humanity. I mean, read, look and see. They all knew each other in both. Like, they all know each other and they all communicate and they all would go to the same place. You remember we saw that New Year's eve party at St. Bart's and like all the richest people in the world were in one place. You think they're just drinking tequila? They're also probably having an effect on what's the economy. What are we going to do? Where are we, you know, how do.

[Drew Franklin]

We get rid of all these people?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean, have you seen paradise? Have you seen. You saw the one dude that did the interview with the New York Times where he was like, we're going to move beyond humans. The guy that runs Palantir, how's that dude not scare everyone to death?

[Ryan]

Scared me. Just you saying that.

[Matt Jones]

And now he runs that. He's in charge of the Defense Department. Come on. All right, I'll shut up.

[Drew Franklin]

I think all that's just fact. The rich have gotten too rich and we can't turn it off.

[Matt Jones]

I agree Roger, Go ahead Roger.

[Caller]

Yeah, I don't get to watch the show every day or listen show every day. So what's going on with these recruits? Are we going to get any.

[Matt Jones]

We're getting none of them or not.

[Drew Franklin]

You got any theories about that?

[Matt Jones]

There are some conspiracy theories I could do on that but we'll just save it. I. To answer your question Roger, it doesn't look like absent a change we will get any of the top recruits. I'm sure they'll find one or two people to sign from somewhere but it's, it's at least as of today. Not looking like this may be the first year. When has Kentucky not gotten a top 30 recruit? How far back would you have to go?

[Drew Franklin]

I'm worried about getting all recruit at this point.

[Matt Jones]

I mean you'll find somebody but when. When's the last time we have not had.

[Ryan]

Okay, so Billy's last year.

[Matt Jones]

Second year but he got Patrick Patterson.

[Ryan]

That was the first year, wasn't it?

[Matt Jones]

So did he get nobody the second year? No. I appreciate the call Derek.

[Ryan]

Jasper.

[Matt Jones]

Well, Jasper. Jasper was a tubby guy when he.

[Ryan]

Yeah, that's right.

[Matt Jones]

Well he was. No, he, he was going to get Daniel Orton.

[Ryan]

Orton was in Cal's first class but he would sign.

[Matt Jones]

He committed to Gillespie.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Honestly, what was John Hood. He was.

[Matt Jones]

I mean you might have to go back to the Bobby Perry Wukash Charay Shagari year. Yeah, that was a recruiting class. I don't think any of those guys were in the top 30 because I think.

[Ryan]

Is that the year they thought they were gonna get Tyler Hansboro?

[Matt Jones]

Yes. Good memory. Yeah, that was the year they thought they were gonna get Tyler Hansboro. So I think you would have to go back to Bobby Perry Shigari Woo Charay as the last recruiting class with no top three guys and I think that's where we're headed Unless something, something happens.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I'm trying to look up on the fly others I really. I mean thank God we have the portal now where you can just pretend that you didn't want high school people which is what we'll have to do but I really think this could end up being like nothing if they don't. There's not that many players left.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah there's.

[Drew Franklin]

We don't want to settle for the 80th guy at that point Just go get someone out of the pool.

[Ryan]

It hurts to the two dudes with Kentucky T guys are both maybe going to both go to Kansas. I think that Stings a little more also.

[Matt Jones]

You watch that game last night, you'd see why. Isaiah. Go ahead, Isaiah.

[Caller]

Hey, you got me.

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Caller]

Hey, so I have a question. So coming off a successful denim night, why don't we lean into our history and do more of those kind of throwback jersey nights? I mean, you think you benefit so much from a marketing standpoint, a recruiting standpoint point. And then to go further, I mean, you look at the NBA and they change their courts up every time they do a different jersey or like sometimes. Why don't we change the court up? You know, I know.

[Matt Jones]

I want to address that. That was actually one of my topics I had listed. So let me do that. I'm going to take.

[Malcolm Glabel]

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[Matt Jones]

Appreciate the call. I actually want to talk about the success of the denim and, and what you're saying because I, I completely agree with you. 859-280-2287. Send me the ad, Shannon, so I could do a one at the next break. We'll take a break and be right back.

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[Ryan]

Was He a top 30?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So it is the Bobby Perry one.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So I mean, think about it's 20 years since we've not gotten. It's 20. 20 years. Yeah. 20 years since we've not gotten at least one player in the top 30. And we are on pace to not do that now. Now that caller's point about denim and all that, I thought the denim thing worked amazing. It did okay. I mean, everybody liked the stuff. It looked cool. There's still like confusion about whether or not those jackets are for sale. Last night Mark Pope said they were. Then Tom Leach said, no, I don't think they are. And then I've heard people have gotten them. So I don't know if they are.

[Drew Franklin]

Not one thing that while they might not Sell. Someone noticed they spelled unparalleled wrong on the back.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, really?

[Drew Franklin]

So a little typo on those jackets. Tough.

[Matt Jones]

Look for something so special, you know, at least they didn't spell Kentucky, and.

[Drew Franklin]

They didn't really get it close. It says, like, unpara, rare. Little did. It's not.

[Matt Jones]

It's not like one letter off the thing. I am more convinced than ever we need to do. We need to do more fun stuff. Yep. You know, I understand the argument of, we're Kentucky. I get it. But we need to do more fun stuff. We just do. Because of what our arena is and how it's set up, it's never going to be that great environment. It can be a really good environment. Like, it was Saturday night, and it can have those great moments, but it's not going to be a consistent thing, and the fans love it. At the end of the day, we did this denim thing, and fans were lined up. Why not do it? We went on this trip, we went to the bookstore at Cal Berkeley, Right?

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

All right. Cal Berkeley. Who cares about that as a sports school?

[Ryan]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

Coolest assortment of merchandise. All right. They had Marshawn Lynch University, Right. They had all this stuff. It was a store full of things. And I was like, there's so many cool items from so many manufacturers. And I thought Kentucky's main Kentucky stuff. Wouldn't you. I mean, you're a apparel guy. Kentucky stuff is 25% as good as this.

[Drew Franklin]

And we've been other places, not just Cal.

[Matt Jones]

That was like, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

We're way behind on that stuff.

[Matt Jones]

Way, way, way behind. Just go look at what you can buy from other schools and then go look at what you can buy from here. Now, why that's the case, I'm not sure. But, yes, we should do more cool stuff. We should have more special things. This is Kentucky. We, like, think about when people wear those handmade jackets and how cool they look. And everybody's like, where can I get one? Why don't we do more of that stuff?

[Ryan]

So we did the denim this year. Would you be in favor, like, doing the icicles next year?

[Matt Jones]

Every year. Every year you have a special uniform.

[Commercial Announcer]

You know what?

[Matt Jones]

If you don't like it, it's one game and we move on.

[Ryan]

Amen. One game.

[Matt Jones]

One game and we move on. Yeah, maybe you do icicles, but maybe we create new ones. Maybe we put a uniform out one time that's just the outline of the state.

[Ryan]

True.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. I'm not a graphic designer. But just try stuff Right. And they want to raise revenue for buying players and all this stuff. Well, here's a way to do it. Stop being such sticks in the mud with your things and making everything like it could be sold at doll hairs. All right. No offense to die. No offensives, but we should have like newer fun stuff.

[Ryan]

So 20 years from now when Mario and Billy are doing KSR or were they going to do like the checkerboard board jerseys, bring those back and people be excited about it?

[Matt Jones]

Maybe.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I think so.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe like I didn't like the checkerboards because it was every single game, but if we had done the checkerboards once, one game, I'm fine with it.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So I just being at Cal and seeing all their and they had so much cool stuff and I was like, this is cow. What if it was at Kentucky? It just made me disappointed. Adam. Go ahead, Adam.

[Caller]

Hey, morning, guys. Not an ask anything, but want to stay with the game. Last week in the 96 team did agree with Drew's take. That would have been weird for Rick to come back and. And be the y. Any active coach for that matter. But I will say this. I'm up here in Chicago and St. John's were in town last week to play DePaul and took a 96 title hat with me just in the off chance I could get Rick to sign it. And after the game when he was walking through the tunnel, bunch of, you know, everybody's yelling at Rick, Rick for prez. Couple Louisville shirts stuck that thing out, stopped him dead in his tracks, and he signed it. So I can't think of another active coach that would. You know, you're right. He's different school. So I think that guy just unapologetically loves uk.

[Matt Jones]

I agree with you. And I think the fact that I appreciate the call that he loves us more than he loves Louisville just makes the rivalry even better.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, yeah, that makes me feel good about it. My whole thing, as I said on the. On the pregame show the other day, is just being at another school and it's more. So why does the other school let him do it that like St. John should be like, maybe you should stay focused.

[Matt Jones]

He didn't end up coming, so that's the way. That's fine.

[Drew Franklin]

But it is cool that he would sign stuff like that. I get it.

[Matt Jones]

So he, by the way, won last night, beat his son, and now he's the third winningest coach of all time. It's Coach K, I think, then Izzo maybe, and then him. No, Coach K. Bayheim and then him. So he has like 904 and I want to say coach K has like 1205 so he's probably not going to catch him but he has a chance to. To pass Behance so he's a chance to come in second.

[Ryan]

You know, he got win number 900 against Richard Pitino. Now he breaks, goes into third place beating Richard Pitino. Poor Richard taking two beatings in a historical games for him.

[Drew Franklin]

Reacher had a big lead too in the.

[Matt Jones]

Richard blew that lead. Richard had a. Richard looking more and more like Rick.

[Ryan]

Oh, they look like twins.

[Matt Jones]

You know, I don't. I now he's kind of growing in and then you know, Rick's Shannon having all that surgery and Richard's getting older and they're sort of meeting in the middle.

[Shannon]

That's right, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Starting younger by the year starting to look more and more like each other. I'm going to give him 30 seconds. Bob and Jamestown go.

[Caller]

Are people losing their independence and self reliance now all this, we have a little winner and. And they're just, you know, really whining about the government's not doing enough, you know, cleanup or whatever. I mean, where are people nowadays? I mean they should be.

[Matt Jones]

Where are they?

[Caller]

They're relying too much on the government.

[Matt Jones]

But what about people who need help? You're supposed to be a live.

[Caller]

Yeah, well, I'm talking about as far as like against the mayor. She's not doing enough to keep the roads clean.

[Matt Jones]

But that's the one thing a mayor is supposed to do is keep the roads clean and keep the streets safe. Yeah, I think, listen, I like her and, but like I think it's perfectly legitimate to criticize one of the three things that the mayor's most important job for it not to have gone. Well, that's, that's reasonable. Bob.

[Caller]

Back in. Back in September, Farmers Almanac, Valentine's Day.

[Matt Jones]

Is coming the same. So. Okay. Appreciate the call. And you're tired of buying the same flowers or candy every year. Here's a gift idea. What are you laughing about?

[Ryan]

Poor Bob. Just trying to make a point about the government.

[Shannon]

You gave him twice as much time as what you said you were.

[Matt Jones]

And, and to be fair, if the governor, if his mayor was Republican, he'd be blasted her. I'm just trying to be fair.

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