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NMLS8259/equal housing lender NMLSConsumeraccess.org welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones. Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287 text machine 772774 here at KS Bar and Grill. Wings day. You can come have dollar wings got pick them tonight. You've been, you were doing research during the break. That's all I did during research. Yeah. On Western Michigan All Stars. That's not the name but yeah, Western Michigan. I, I want to see how you do. Okay. I think you are probably not going to be good at it. No, I'm awful at it. But, but that, but you know, maybe somebody just gets lucky and wins. Now I don't think you have to know anything to pick against the spread. I mean the whole point against spreads for it to be 50 50. So it's almost like flipping, flipping coins. But if you have inside info could be good. I'm going to spend the afternoon just calling these schools their sids, get some inside info for the pick them contest. Yes, I'm sure that's what they would like. We got a couple open lines so give us a shout. All right. I want to go over a few things here for a minute with you. First of all, we got to talk about this guy at the Olympics, Shannon, who who won the bronze medal and then said he cheated on his girl. I did hear about this one. Okay. This is quite a story. So my man, he's from Norway. Everybody good at the Olympics from Norway that a video went viral of the guy I was talking about yesterday. Yes. Remember the guy I talked about who looks like a train going up the mountain. They show like he they that video went viral yesterday because he just dominates. He looks saying the amount of cardio you would have to have crazy. I mean I would have a heart attack crazy. That guy and you heard it first here on ks. We did. Right. Okay. So some guy I Think it was a scheme. Cross country scheme comes in third, wins the bronze. The Norwegian TV station interviews him and they say, hey, man, congratulations. How do you feel about getting the bronze? And he talks about it for, like, two seconds. And then he just goes, well, actually, this has been the worst week of my life because I made a mistake and fumbled woman who was the gold medal of my life, which I thought was pretty strong thing to say. He said, I cheated on my girlfriend and she broke up with me. And so it has been miserable. I'm glad I won the bronze, but ultimately I'm sad because I cheated on my girlfriend and ruined a great relationship. Strong play by this guy. Yeah, it was. Yes, it was. I mean, strong play. Just throws his infidelity out to the world. Nobody asked him, hey, man, nobody knew about it. What you been doing? You've been faithful to your lady. He just throws it out there and just says, hey, I've been. I've been cheating. I couldn't believe it, Drew. I. I can't believe he would bring that embarrassment onto him, but also onto his girlfriend. I mean, let's be real. The whole world was googling, who's this guy's girlfriend? And I'm sure people in Norway are like, come on, forgive him. I think it was a pretty poor decision on his part. What do you make? Very poor. I mean, I. I don't know them, but getting cheated on probably wasn't the best feeling for her. Probably a little humiliating. And now he's just going to go tell the whole world she's going through that. I mean, the world. Let me. Let me get on the Olympic stage and tell everyone what I did to you that you're dealing with right now. Yeah. And he made it about him. Yeah. He was like, I screwed up. And. And, I mean, not. It's fine. He did probably did screw up. He probably does have regrets. But I. I can't imagine that leads her to taking him back. There's another side of this. I wonder. So I saw. They dated for three months. Is there any part of her that's like this random that will not leave me alone? They only dated for three months. They dated for three months. She's like, why is this random dude I didn't like that much still talking about me on global television? Oh, I didn't know. To me, there's, like, extreme sides here. She's like, please leave me alone and stop bringing this up. I'm not interested in you. I don't care what happened. We're not a thing. Oh, Think she was like three months in that very. In very long. She. You think she was kind of like, it's good, man. It's fine. Please quit talking about it. This gave me a reason to get out of it. And if you're going to cheat on her in three months, how much did you really love her? That's a good point. Like, you weren't with her for 30 years, dude. You were for three. You couldn't even get through three months without. I'm getting a lot of crazy on his end. Yeah, well, clearly I Bringing that up in the. I mean, this was like. This would be like, I don't know. Drake May being interviewed at the Suit. This is this guy's Super Bowl. Yeah, right. I mean, if you're a cross country skier, I can't imagine there's something better than the Olympics. This is his super bowl, and he lost, but it would be like interviewing Drake May at the super bowl. And he's like, yeah, by the way, I lost this game, but I also lost my woman. And that was. And you go, Drake, jeez. He calls her the love of his life. You just can't think that that move, saying that at that time was the right idea to try to win her back. Could it be, though? Norwegian culture is different. Could be. We do. We get. We get on the big stage. We got to profess our love for somebody I cheated on. She'll take me back. Today my favorite comment was, somebody wrote my. In the Twitter replies. There's Norway. This works. I liked it. You all giggled, all three of you. You giggle. Don't act like you need to giggle. Yeah, but if Ryan made that joke, you would crush him. If I would. If I were the woman, too, I would say, you know what? I'm into guys who can win gold. Sorry, I'm not into guys who win. Oh, you think she should just go with the guy who got gold? Yeah, like, you know, bronze. Yeah. I don't know. Silver. What a loser. You see that finished guy over there that got the gold? Yeah. That's who I want. That's who I want. At least give me some sterling silver. I think that's fair. I'm also seeing. According to espn, he just told her that he cheated this week, so it kind of feels like I got caught and I'm just trying to do. He didn't tell her on tv, though. No, but this is all new to her. Okay, so he's trying to do damage control. I think he's really bad at his damage. Girl. I don't know either party, but I don't think that was the move. It also doesn't help him in the future with other relationships. Now that everybody, the world knows. Yeah. Now the world knows he's a cheater. Yeah. Good luck trying to jump on Tinder now, buddy. Yeah. All right, next thing, I have maybe my favorite sport of the Olympics. Everybody knows short track speed skating, right? Like, they go around and there's like four of them, and they'll fall and they all go into the wall of the pads. That's all exciting, but last night, again, on the peacock. The way I get on peacock and just look for a sport I don't know and turn that on. And they had mixed team short track speed skating relay. So it's men and women, but they also will do just men and just women. But it's a relay. Like, think about the track. 4 by 100 or whatever. But they don't have a baton. Okay. So the way they hand off from one to the purse, other person is they just like, tag them, but in order to make them go faster, they push them by the butt. Okay. Start from a stationary position. No. So the thing is, they're going around the track and they're going at big speeds. So whoever you're gonna tag can't just be standing there without moving. Yeah. So they skate around the inside, and then when it becomes the right time, they go right in front of you and you hit them on the butt and push them. Okay. So at any given time, it's chaos. Yeah. There are the four people on the inside, then there. Excuse me, on the outside. Then there are the four people going next on the inside. People are just crossing back and forth, hitting each other on the butt and pushing, and it's wild. It's hard to know any given point who is the real racer, because every. There's just. Just chaos throughout the whole thing. And I found it fascinating. There are like. Seems like there's like 20 people on each team. It just goes on and on. And then at some point, they'll be like, that's it. The butt hits are huge. Like, they push them so fast. And I love it. It's my. It's my again. When I tell you to watch something, I'm not just saying it for my health. Go watch the mixed team relay and watch these people. It's wild. Sounds like the chaos is what makes it enjoyable to watch. It's. Yes. And then the butt pushes. I'm a big. The butt pushes. Like, you don't see a lot of Encouraging of butt pushes in other sports. A lot of butt push. Yeah, it's good. It's good teamwork. We all get winded or have moments in our day where it's like, man, I just need a quick butt push and I can get through this. Imagine, like you said, other sports. There's no other sports. Yeah. There's no where. Where, you know, Ellie De La Cruz is running. Matt Mcclain just comes and pushes him in the butt. Like, they don't do that. I'm thinking about Saturday, Gainesville. Let's say it's high. Three minutes left, and Reese Potter just comes into Colin Chandler. Just a quick shove and gets him down for a fast break. You need that butt push. You do have it. Football, though. It's kind of like a tush push, but on. On skates. I like it. Good teamwork. We all need a little boost from a friend or a teammate. Sometimes people just fall. So, like, during the race last night, I saw one. There's four teams. Somebody butt pushed, push the end of the other guy. They all go flying into the wall, and then it's a question of who can get up first. Yes. Because they still. The top two move on. And then they're all mad at each other. They're like, you pushed into me. And they get angry at each other all the time. It's. It's very fun. Is butt pushing a skill? Like, when they go to the gym, are they bench pressing? And, like, you have to sit. They have to. Have to practice. They have to practice it anyway. Big fan of the mixed team relay. Who's next? Shannon. Joe. Joe. Go ahead, Joe. Hey, Matt. Two things. One, if Chicago Pope invites Villanova and Kentucky Pope to play the Vatican next year, I would only hope that Shannon would do him the respect of opening the Twitter app and letting him send one tweet from Sister G. Oh, you could. Yeah. Sister Jean could respond about the game. I agree. They should. Although she's dead now, right? She died. They got that WI Fi up in heaven. Yeah, that's true. I appreciate the call. It's a. One sec. One second. Go ahead. You there? Yeah. The next time. And you guys joked about on Monday that you'd want to do a challenge or put Ryan through something. I know the three requirements to be a bush at the halftime show, and Ryan's got the first two down. Easy one. Be between five, seven, and six foot. Perfect. Easy. You're between five, seven, six. Athletic build. Oh, athletic build. Okay, check. The third thing is, they were required to be able to stand with a 50 pound costume for five hours. Oh, could you stand. Stand with the 50 pound costume for five hours to be a sugar cane bush? No, I can't do it. No, no. Give Ryan a 50 pound weight to do the show with for. Yeah, he just has to stand on this stage for five hours straight. That's a no for me, dog. That's a lot. My goodness. Why did they have to do five hours? Seems like they could have gotten in costume. Hard to sit down. But it was a 15 minute performance. Five hours seems a little extreme. Were they ready four and a half hours before they went out there? Well, they might have had a dress rehearsal. Okay. We would have. We would have helped you run. We would have but pushed you through it if you needed to get through the two and a half hour mark. 859-280-2287. Who's next? Stephen. Stephen. Go ahead, Stephen. Hi, guys. I've got a question for you that my wife and I have been debating. Am I healthier now as I'm getting older in my UK fandom, or am I just no longer a fanatic by its true sense? I grew up listening to K. Wood in the stripping room and memorized. What did you say? You listen to K. Wood in the stripping room? What does that mean? Yes, sir. Tobacco stripping room. So tobacco stripping. Okay. That could have a lot of meanings. I was. I didn't know what. I didn't know what you meant. All right, go ahead. Hard to dance to Kwood. Yes. I skipped school after the Leitner Law, actually, for a few days. Yeah, I drove my U of L teammates who happened to be all former, I mean, fellow Cats fans. We wore blue all around campus. We just had to wear red. I believe you on your credentials. Are you asking me? The fact that you're not as obsessive as you were when you were younger, does that make you less of a fan? Is that what you're asking me? Yes. Now, I know you're just. You're a grown up now. Yeah. I don't care. I don't base my life around it. But that. Does that mean I'm not. Do you still. Do you still watch every game? I watch every game except for the nine o' clock game. With that, we lose. Well, now that, that makes you old. If you won't stay up for the nine o' clock games. But in general. No, I mean you, you, you are still a very big fan. People. I appreciate the call. People grow older and their fandom changes. I think you're. I think in General, people's fandom is at the highest at like two points in their life. One is when they are young, middle school to like high school. Then when you get in college, people are still into it, but they have like fun lives. And then I think when you're like 25, 24, I think people then get really obsessive again. And then there comes a point like, I mean, I guess it's when you have kids, you know, they're pooping all over the place. And so you have to, like, you have to deal with that and that takes your priority. And then I think people get obsessive again when they get old, older because they're, they got less stuff to do. And so I think it kind of goes through phases, don't you? Yeah, life comes through by. You get busy, things happen. It's hard to lock in on every game. Probably different reasons for each person. I mean, my friends, I think about my friends that are not in this business. For some of them, they have not been as big of fans recently. But then I have a couple where their kids are now, like about to go to college and they're almost becoming bigger fans again because they've got more time. Right. I have friends my age that they don't even know who Kentucky's playing, that they, if they knew it would make a point to watch the game. A lot of times they just. You can't keep up with anymore. Yeah. Well, it says the battery's about to die. Does. Is this plugged in? Well, I'm going to do it during the commercial break. I was waiting for the commercial break. You still got 20. You got 30%. So you didn't plug it in? Didn't plug it in yet. Yeah. Those are good things to do. Yeah. Valentine's Day is coming up and if you're shopping for someone special, treat yourself right. Cornbread hemp. One thing I know, ladies love hemp cornbread and few seltzers savor better. Sleep with the melatonin free gummies or support daily quality of life with your full spectrum gummies and oils. 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During this season of the Two Guys Five Rings podcast, in the lead up to the Milan Cortina 2026 Winter Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends. Hi Bon. Hi Matt. Hey Elmo. Hey Matt. Hey Bowen. Hi Cookie. Hi. Now the Winter Olympic Games are underway and we are in Italy today. Give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to Two Guys Five Rings on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the A building. I'm Hans Charles. Our Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr have both been assassinated and black America was at a breaking point. Writing and protest broke out on an unprecedented scale in Atlanta, Georgia at Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College. The students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King Sr. And a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. 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Smacking the butt's a different element. They. First of all, they don't smack it. They don't just come up and, like, they don't just go pop. It's. It's a. It's a push. It's like, to give leverage and get them going. A little shake and bake. Yeah. My family's been locked in on quad God. Like, when. Quad God. That's last night. Your skater? Yep. Ilya Malin. I think you have to say his name. I don't know if he's absolutely incredible. I mean, he looks like a Game of Thrones villain. Did you see he skipped practice? Yeah. Just didn't come to practice. He's like Allen Iverson. We're talking about practice in the Olympics. They get ice, time to practice. Everybody does it. He just doesn't come. So everybody's like, is he okay? Shows up for the event. No. Practice kills it. And a few days ago, he had an amazing run, great score. And he was like. That was 50% effort. And, like, his publicist came out, like, we want to be clear, he gives 100% effort. But he was, like, as my half best. Well, you know, he's trying. He did a backflip and landed on one skate. How do you. What? The backflip was wild. What? It was wild. The whole thing. He's. He's good. I've enjoyed this Olympics. There's something about the beauty of the snow and the skiing and, like, everybody, you know, except for the fact Jake Paul has been involved. Everything else has been. Has been great. See Snoop Dogg stuff yet? Oh, he's been. He's everywhere. There's Multiple Snoops in Italy. He goes. He goes to all of it, and he. He enjoys it. All right, field of 68 literally just put out their new bracket predictions. Here's what they have for us. Us as a six seed, we would play UCLA in the first round and then Purdue in the second round in Philadelphia. I don't like that Purdue storyline because we're just going to get made fun of for that exhibition win if it doesn't go well. Yeah, get them out of here. Yeah, I don't want to play Purdue. I don't think Purdue's as good as we all thought they were going to the season, but I don't want to play him again. Let me read you the cities where the first. Because we're going to go. Okay. First and second round, we're going. Because, Shannon, we might not have another weekend, so we're going to enjoy that one. Here are our choices. You tell me which one you would like to go to the most. Okay. Which one would you like to go to the least? Buffalo, Tampa, Philadelphia, St. Louis, San Diego, Oklahoma City and Portland. That's where it is this year. Well, I'm eliminating Buffalo first. Buffalo. But Buffalo is one of the closest. Actually. Not that far. You think it's far? It's really not that far. I'm taking that one off the table. That could be a awful wintery mess. Gone. Okay, no Buffalo. Where? What. What else? I like St. Louis. That's relatively close. He just wants the one that's close. Like all he cares about is the drive. Okay. That good experience last time we were in St. Louis. We had a good experience there at the SEC tournament. I think the last time we were in St. Louis. Yeah. You won the SEC tournament. We won. And then we. We. We went there. No, it was Kansas City in the ncaa. Okay, go ahead. I've really never done anything in Oklahoma City except staying. Yeah, you've been to the Haunted Hotel there and you've done a TV show there. We slept with the light on and a Thunder game. I would argue you've done a lot. And we've been to Oklahoma City twice. We went to the Thunder one time. Was that the same time we stayed at the Haunted Hotel? We've been twice. Twice. Okay. Yeah. And then. So which one's your best? Tampa. St. Louis. You just like Tampa because that's where you know all those people. What about you? Buffalo. Immediate first pick. Buffalo's your first pick? Yeah. Easy drive. I miss my community. I miss my fellow Bills fans. Great blue cheese there. I thought we had good blue cheese. I thought I had blue cheese. Figured out they got another level of blue cheese. I would say they. Their blue cheese is like the real thing. Hard to go back to regular blue cheese when you've had Buffalo blue. So Buffalo's my top pick. In love with Buffalo when you guys were up there. So what's your least one? Portland. Portland. Portland's a long way away. Shannon, what about you? I'd rather go anywhere but Philadelphia. So that's last on the lead. Why don't you like Philadelphia? There's nothing redeemable about Philadelphia. Nothing redeemable about Philadelphia Eagles. I hate, like, everything about their sports teams. I hate the Phillies. I hated. Ecw. That feels hard. You sucked. So. So what's your. What's your pick? Well, okay, I'm gonna give you number two and number one. Number two would be Buffalo. I've never been there before, so I'd be all right with Buffalo. Number one is Tampa. Where it's warm. Let's go where it's warm. Amen. Yeah. All right. So mine, it's interesting. My number one would be Philadelphia. Really? The arena, like I. The arena is a little. A little far away. That stinks. But I like Philadelphia. It's pretty much a walkable city from. From a lot of it, except we wouldn't be able to walk to the arena. But. But I like it and I just think there's a lot. It's fun, good food, a lot of Kentucky fans there in Philadelphia. So I think I would enjoy that. I would also like Buffalo. I mean, Portland would be the worst because it's so far away. San Diego, I mean, we'd have to fly, but I heart. I think would pay for it. And it's beautiful there and that's a big city. I've only been to one time that I would enjoy. San Diego is number one on my bucket list. Just this time around. Get a little close to a due date. I probably shouldn't be in California at that moment, so something drivable would be better for my. Also Greenville, South Carolina is one, but we ain't going to get to go there because Duke and Carolina love Greenville so we won't end up there. Yeah, all three. You guys kind of put Buffalo pretty high on your list. And I made them dead last. Well, so we could end up at any of those. Lots of. And drive to Oklahoma City. I know you would have fun with driving through the Ozarks. Come on. You know, last year in Philadelphia, we had to do our postgame show out in the parking lot and we got kicked out of that place. It was awesome that all those fans. That was great. So in terms of Kentucky fans, St. Louis would probably have the most. Yeah. Is, is Philadelphia second, though? Good thing about Philly is that whole area can get there easily. D.C. new York had great luck in St. Louis. 70, 18 won the championship in St. Louis. Yeah. What problem is Illinois and Kansas will probably get St. Louis over us. So I don't know. We'll take a break. Be right back. KSR T.J. smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. he'll make him pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. A lot of butt songs today. Yes. Well, that was a good, good topic. It was a good topic. 772-774-5254. Another person reminds me, Philadelphia probably has a lot going on with the America. It's 250th anniversary of America. So that's probably, they got a lot of stuff going on there, I would think. I've been there a bunch. I like Philadelphia a lot. I agree with Shannon. They're, they're sports fans are the worst. But as a city, I've had a lot of fun there. Be at the games. I mean you still have to breathe the same air is overrated. It's not that great. I like cheesesteak. I'm, I'm going to disagree with that one person writes Matt, after all you all talked about over the years about the Epstein list, are you, do you, are you now good to say that you were wrong saying there wasn't a lot more to it. Yeah. I'll say that. I think, I think I underestimated how like much was being hit hidden. I don't think like I'm, we're going to do an interrupted podcast this week about that, me and Billy. I, I've been shocked. I've been shocked about two things. I've been shocked how many people knew him like we talked about that yesterday. Like how many people from all different walks of life, like, all different, like politicians, bankers. There hasn't been like the Hollywood celebrities everybody acted like would be on there. But just how many business people, world leaders, members of Trump's cabinet. I mean it's just, and then I'm surprised that so many of these people are not like losing their jobs. Right. Even I don't understand, like, has Trump not firing these people? Like, how are you leaving? How, how are these like There. There's, like, banks that still have these people in charge. There's a guy from Ohio State. There's a guy from. Like, how are they all still keeping their job? He's not just any guy. He's high on the list of what was going on. They have some explaining to do. They're in position. And it seems like there's different tiers. They're the people that, like, knew him and interacted with him, but you don't know. And maybe even did things that were whatever. But we don't know that they did the illegal things. It looks to me like maybe Clinton and Trump and some of those people are in that list. But then there are people who are. There are alleged to have done awful things. And, like, I don't know how those people are keeping their jobs or at least being suspect. I don't know. And then I really don't understand the. Well, we're not charging anybody else. This is over. That seems crazy to me. I sent you all an email. Yeah. So a listener sent me an email that's in the files that is written from someone who is saying, I'm at the Kentucky Speedway for this NASCAR race. This is to Epstein and is like, what do you need? Or something. So that means they were saying, like, I'm in the motor coat, like, acted like they were in, like, a big part of the Kentucky Speedway. Like, at the race, which those are probably, like, Kentucky dignitaries. Right. So you got to go, well, who's that? You know, we looked at the date. It's like, 2013 race. So who was at the 2013 race? Like, I don't know. Like, that's somebody. They're in that email that's in there. That person is admitting they're in Kentucky. At that time in Kentucky at the Kentucky Speedway. It said in a. Like a fit, like in one of the suites, I mean. And the name is redacted. I don't understand why the names are reacted. Why do they do that? Redact the victims? But I don't understand. Just because you're in there doesn't mean you're necessarily guilty. But, like, what is the reason for redacting? Well, Thomas Massie from Northern Kentucky is, like, taking the lead on, you know, and he. The guy from California and him. I. I give those guys a lot of credit. They're, like, in the lead of it all. And one's a Republican, one's a Democrat, I believe. Right. Yeah. So, anyway, I. It's. I will. I will admit Shannon was right. There was a lot More to it than I thought there would be. I thought it would probably be a lot of nothing. And I think it's more than nothing. But like the sort of names people thought, like it's gonna have these Hollywood celebrities. I haven't seen any of those. It is crazy that they're just straight up saying, yeah, nothing really happened. We're just not gonna do anything. Like we're all a bunch of idiots. Yeah, well, I. It surprised me. I think that's fair to say. Who's next? Freebird. Freebird. Go ahead, Freebird. Hey, guys. Apologize to you, man, with a late question. But yesterday I listened to a segment about the question about that Alabama transfer that they let play. Yes. I guess I'm asking for. I'm asking from a attorney standpoint, can there be any pullback from the games that he played? That can be a waste off. So the NCAA has said. Yeah, so the NCAA has. So for the Alabama guys now not eligible. Right. And that was an appeals court. Was. The district court said it. I don't know if the appeals courts ruled yet, but the NCAA has said they will consider the games that he didn't play, essentially. So I don't know what that means they're going to do about the five games he did play. I think I act like Alabama didn't play them. I don't really know. They lost two of the five. They went three and two. So I don't know that it'll really. Sir, I don't really know if it'll affect Alabama either way because they went three and two, which is kind of how they've been all year, you know. So I don't. I don't really know. To answer your question, I don't think there's been an official ruling from the NCAA as to how they're going to treat it. Just more bizarre stuff, man. Appreciate the call, guys. It is. I think that was. If you're the ncaa, you got to be happy about that ruling because that's now going to make it where everybody. The thing they've been worried about, like, are you going to have guys from the NBA coming? It looks like that's not going to happen. So it's probably for people who don't want to see college basketball descend into chaos. It was a good rule. It also be interesting to see what. Because the original judge, the Alabama booster, said he was eligible, kind of shows that booster might have been a little biased. You know, I just feel like there has to be consequences for playing against not eligible. Can we just all Right. Can we go get Giannis for five games and pretend it didn't happen? They knew what they were doing when they did it and did it anyway. Blatantly. They can't just be like, oh, well, let's move on. There has to be some kind of consequences for playing an eligible player if one of those teams they beat. But what would your consequence be? Would you say they're owing five in the games they play? I mean, something has to happen. You can't just be like, well, they tried and it didn't work. Because then I don't be like, well, let's just start playing anybody and then few games if they're not going to do anything about it. I would think those three teams that they beat while he was playing, if they're on the bubble. Well, I think. Who was one of them? One of the teams Alabama beat. The coach came out and said, did they. Alabama beat A and M. Auburn's definitely one of them. I think one of the coaches said, like, beat a. Beat A. And a coach is like, look, man, we're competing for the SEC title. That's not fair. What if we don't. What if we don't win the SEC by one game? Yeah. Can they just go get one of their former players for five games, then be like, oh, then we're sorry? I mean, if the NCAA says it doesn't affect Alabama, that's one thing. But what about the teams they beat? Right. Those three teams they beat with him playing. Yeah. So they beat Auburn. I guess it was. Let's see who else? A and M and Missouri. Yeah. So Auburn, A and M, Missouri all lost. All three of those teams are NCAA tournament teams. Sure. So do you count those losses against their NCAA tournament thing? It's. It's interesting how the selection committee is going to handle all that. I don't know. That'll be interesting to see. Who's next? Scott. Scott. Go ahead, Scott. What's up, mj? First time, long time. Who are. What's up? I wanted to bring this up while Pope's kind of hot and BYU is cooled off a little bit and I'm a season ticket holder rooting for Pope, but we haven't really talked about how awesome BYU's done without Pope. They've been ranked both years. They are getting stud recruits. They got more tournament wins without Mark Pope than with Mark Pope. Do you think he was a product of having a good setup there? Well, I think so. First of all, BYU, while AJ DeBonts is great, haven't been quite as awesome as people think. I mean, they have not beaten. They've only I think beaten one good team this year. So they've lost a lot. When they play good teams, they tend to not only lose, it seems like they get destroyed. To your greater point though, they've clearly done well as a program. I think the biggest reason is when they hired that guy from Phoenix, this booster decided to inject $50 million. And I don't think Mark Pope got that. Now maybe that's because Mark Pope couldn't connect with that booster. So maybe part of our questions of does Mark Pope know how to do the nil era? You can look at what's happened at BYU and ask that question. Because as soon as he left, BYU became a massive nil program. But as far as the on the court, I don't know that they've been that much better. I mean they won what, one game in the tournament last year and then this year they've been good. But every time they play sweet 16, I think made sweet 16, but that's how far we made it too. Right. So the year before they got upset I think by Duquesne when, when, when Pope was there. But yeah, because we were with all the Duquesne people in. Yeah, Pittsburgh. So I appreciate the call. It's a fair question. I don't know that we know the answer yet one way or the other. But you know, it is fair to say that as soon as he left, their NIL took off and it didn't take off when he was there. Could also be the case. We have the same complaint, not getting stars here. Maybe it's not that the money wasn't there, it's just he wasn't recruiting the AJ debaunces and the top, top, top of the line or at least not able. Yeah. Also they're not going anywhere that we have to get into that church. They have so much money and they're putting so much into basketball right now. Their atmosphere looks like one of the best in the country. For every single game they have figured it out. A lot of it's just paying, but they're not going anywhere. It's not just a one off or two year year here. We're all saving for something. But what if you could save for the number for something? Well, we want to reach your savings goals faster. And with a high yield savings account at UK Federal Credit Union you get 4. 4% APY. How about that? 4% APY? Tell me more. Up to 20. Up to $25,000. There's no minimum balance 4% annual percentage yield today UK Federal Credit Union. You're not gonna find better than that. 4% at we're all work for for all y'. All Kentucky at UK Federal Credit Union. Did you see the Christian Laitner super bowl commercial? Thought it was good. That was really good. I thought it was cool that they did the Lightner thing and said you're for all y'. All. 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It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King Sr. And a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called the Red Weather. It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea. In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainer disappeared from a commune. It was hard to wrap your head around. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So, no, I am not your guru. And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody. There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name. I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened. Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend? They have had this case for 30 years. I'll teach you. Sons of come around here. And my wife, Boom boom. This is the red weather. Listen to the red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, I love this song. Shannon. This is my. This is one of my things. John, wait. John, wait. You get me in the car and you get me singing this no matter what I may say. What? I have my own version of this song. I ain't kissing your grandma. What? What's going on? What does that mean? I just. That's how I used to sing it. At what age? I ain't kissing your grandma. Yeah, kissing your grandma at all. Is that what you do? It fits. Why do you. Why did you say that? Because I think. I thought that's what they used to say. No, I don't know. I just made it up. I used to just. You would sing that. Like, what age are we talking this? Last year, probably last week. Told you that, brain. Here comes the course again. Give it to us right. Ain't kissing your grandma. Keep going. Watch it all. That was it. So you just end it right there? Yeah, that was it. I ain't kissing your grandma Kissing her since she got old and gray no matter what. You are absolutely ridiculous and looking forward to people getting to hear that on the podcast without the music. 859-280-2287. Pick them. Contest remember, starts at 7. Really need to get here at 6:30 to get all your picks in and all that. But. But, you know, as long as they're all in before the game at seven. And then, like, we'll also have a second thing at halftime. So you'll do one set of picks at the beginning, and then we add picks at halftime of the twist. It's one in a twist. It's not a twist. I just told you what it was. So, like, it's not a surprise. We. We will do. You'll have two sets of picks, and then we'll grade them, and somebody will walk out of here a thousand dollars richer. Nice. Which will buy you, under today's prices, at least one dinner. And that'll be. Not here. Especially on week. Oh, here. It'll be very tight. Listen, it's Wednesday. You couldn't ask for a better thing. Mario put up this post yesterday. Who would you rather sit next to on an airplane? Right? So he did this thing about airplanes. This is kids like this. And the choices were. So I'll read you the rows. For those of you that haven't seen the graphic. First row is middle seat between Bob and Jamestown and Ryan. Forget it. I'm not even taking that seat. I don't jump out the window. That is eighth. There were people who wrote that that was their top choice. Those people are insane. Middle seat. First of all, Bobby, Jamestown's not little. Secondly, the two of them would not shut up. Yeah, I. I'm. I'm xing that one also. Second was next to Shannon on an aisle with Mark Pope at the window. Everything would be beautiful and special. I think that would be good. I don't know what Shannon and Mark Pope would talk about. I think Shannon's the kind of guy who would sit next to Mark Pope and put on his headphones and not speak to it. It's gonna be a quiet ride right there. I think Shannon would not converse with Mark. I would talk to. All right. Third was window seat next to Corey Price. And I didn't know who that other person was. Who? Ray Davis. That's Ray Davis. Well, Cory's very quiet. Yeah, that's it. So I. I think. But. But Corey could tell you all the history of UK basketball. And you get a view and you get a window seat. Right. Fourth row, four. Me and Cal, and you're in the middle of. For 12 hours. No way. I love both you guys, but you guys would not shut up. But I. I will say this. You want the most gossip, and you want the most tea. That's your thing. Because we would sit down and there'd be a lot of animosity, but after an hour or two, we'd feel like we had to talk, and then we'd start telling old stories. Yeah. Both you guys really have. We have some great stories from 2010 to 2020. So I actually think. I mean, objectively, that would be. You'd learn a lot. And Cal especially, once he gets about a few hours, he'll say anything. Like, he'll just start talking. And Cal could probably tell you stuff that would blow your mind. Yeah, that's. That's the second one. I'm eliminating both. You guys like to hear yourself talk. And for 12 hours, I would not get any rest. You know us. But if you were a stranger. But you're assuming Cal is going to be friendly. I don't think that would be a cordial. Also, be funny if it's awkward for 12 hours. Hours. 12 hours. Next is clearly the party seat is row five. Willie at the window, Drew in the middle. And then five. Yeah. Who needs leg room? We're having fun. That'd be fun. But. But the problem is by hour eight, y' all be hammered. Yeah. A lot of bathroom trips, and there'd be a lot of pain and there'd be a lot of, like, leaning on each other. And you have to sit next to Billy. He's right across the aisle. Across the aisle. I was wondering if this includes the airport bar before we board the plane. Runaway winner. I've been the question if you like to party. That's the biggest one. Number six, probably the nicest one. Billy, Mario, middle seat, then window open. You would get Mario. Mario couldn't be nicer. They would be friendly. Problem is, by the end, Billy would have pitched you like seven ideas and giving you business cards and you'd have art. But that's would be probably the most pleasant. See, I would say by like, hour two, Mario and Billy would just fall asleep on each other's heads. They would fall asleep on each other's shoulders. That's true. I don't. Number seven is Will Levis. And who is that? Zach Calzada. And you'd be in the middle. Get your money right. Garrett. Well, Garrett's in. Or Zach's in the back row. I'd say he needs to get his money right. I think if you're group seven. I think if you're a football fan, you would enjoy that. I think the only one Mario screwed up on is the one next to the twins. They don't really talk. They don't talk. And I don't really know that they would be very. I like them a lot. I'm not sure how friendly they would be. They just squint at you the whole time. They would just. Yeah, they just squint. They probably wouldn't speak the whole time. So if it were me, I'd want to sit between me and Cal. Of course you would. Shocking. You want to sit down. You two blow hards and listen to you for 12 hours. If. If I wanted to sleep, I'd choose the Billy Mario Ro Ro row. If I wanted to party, I'd choose the Willie Drew row. And I also could be talked into Shannon and. And Mark Pope except for Bob and Jamestown still going to try to talk to me even though I'm five seats over. So that's where I am. What about you? Okay. Lost in all this is we got to think about 12 hours sitting in that seat. That's why I'm taking this number eight by the twins. I got an aisle. An aisle. And they don't talk. I can have my piece. So you don't want to talk to them. I know you. There's no way you wouldn't try to communicate. For the first 20, 25, 30 minutes to the next 11 and a half hours. I'm watching my phone, playing games. But I can also be talked into seat number six. Shannon, what about you? Well, I jokingly sit on the pre show. I like to sit by myself. But in all seriousness, I would probably sit by the twins just because of what Ryan said. They'd be quiet. You two are quiet and you're close to the restroom. I assume you'd sit by yourself. I'm sitting by Willie and I don't care who's next was we're having fun. There's a good chance they have to land the plane, take us off, and then you all finish the rest of the flight. Drew, Willie, together. I've already done that with Willie. Not on a plane, but we're a good time. There are very few people associated with UK sports that if you put them in a duo wouldn't end up more hammered than Drew and Willie. Having a great time. Can we just go sit with a pilot? Is that an option? I'd rather do that. So I like it just depends on what you want. Yep. I think that was. I think the only. The only one that wasn't great was the. The football one just. But there are people who are UK football fans that might like it. Court physical Therapy. If you are in pain, go to court. They'll work on you and they'll make it where you get exercise, all that energy, get yourself back in shape with Court physical therapy. It's kort.com 70 locations around the state. State. There's one near you at Court. Thank you all very much for coming. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. I'll see you all at the Pick Them contest tonight. Hope you come out. Spin ksr. I'm Bowen Ying. And I'm Matt Rogers. 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