2026-03-04- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

KSR (Kentucky Sports Radio)
Episode: March 4, 2026 – Hour 2
Host: Matt Jones
Co-hosts: Shannon and Drew
Location: KS Bar and Grill

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Episode Overview

In this lively installment of Kentucky Sports Radio, Matt Jones and the KSR crew gathered at KS Bar and Grill for a midday rundown of the latest University of Kentucky (UK) sports news, inside stories on key coaching and administrative changes, and lighthearted banter. Topics ranged from the women’s basketball SEC tournament opener to candid discussions about UK Athletic Director Mitch Barnhart’s retirement—complete with behind-the-scenes anecdotes (and a memorable social media exchange involving John Calipari). The second hour also took deep dives into the transfer saga of wide receiver Hardly Gilmore, a spirited debate about in-game coaching decisions, and a few classic KSR call-ins. As usual, the tone was equal parts informed, irreverent, and unmistakably Kentucky.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kentucky Women’s Basketball: Tournament Opener

• [03:42] The show opens excitedly as Kentucky’s women tip off their SEC tournament game vs. Arkansas. Matt highlights, “They’re up 6-0 already and just nailed a three!”
• [04:01] Discussion points: Arkansas’ poor season (1-15 in conference) and the opportunity for a comfortable UK win.

2. The John Calipari–Mitch Barnhart Dynamic: The Inside Stories

Lee Todd and the Calipari Hiring

• [04:24–06:18] Matt recounts a recent interview with former UK President Lee Todd, who revealed that Barnhart initially wanted to hire Calipari after Tubby Smith, but Todd said no over scandal concerns. Only after the failed Billy Gillispie era did they revisit Calipari.
  • Matt reflects: “I never heard this story till Lee Todd said it... He’s falling on the sword to honor Mitch a little more on his retirement.”
  • Shannon interjects with skepticism, “I’d heard the opposite a thousand times.”

Calipari’s Not-So-Sentimental Retirement Tweet

• [07:00–08:50] The crew reads John Calipari’s terse retirement sendoff to Mitch Barnhart:
  • “Even though Mitch and I didn’t always see eye to eye, he did a good job. And I wish he and Connie well in retirement.” ([07:03] Shannon)
  • Matt: “That’s not exactly the most glowing endorsement ever, is it?”
  • The brevity—and honesty—of the tweet is analyzed:
    • “If that were somebody he likes, that would be three or four tweets long.” ([07:41] Matt)
    • “I give John Cal a lot of credit. That’s an honest tweet.” ([07:47] Matt)
  • The group reminisces about their public discomfort:
    • “That interview with Mitch where they both sit there with the WWF belt behind them, awkwardly trying to act like they're friends...” ([09:41] Matt)

The End of Calipari’s Era & Fallout

• [09:57–10:24] They rehash the timeline of Calipari leaving:
  • “They did that interview on a Tuesday, and by Thursday, he was on his way to Arkansas.” ([09:57] Matt)
  • Belief that Calipari misled Barnhart during those final days.

3. The Wild Journey of Hardly Gilmore

• [10:44–13:39] Matt presents a jaw-dropping timeline of WR Hardly Gilmore’s transfers:
  • Kentucky ➜ Nebraska (1/2025) ➜ Kentucky again (4/2025) ➜ Portal ➜ Louisville (1/8/2026) ➜ Leaves Louisville after 4 days ➜ Baylor (1/2026) ➜ Now back to Kentucky (3/3/2026).
  • “That’s the craziest resume I’ve ever seen...in 15 months played for Kentucky, Nebraska, Kentucky, Louisville, Baylor, and now back to Kentucky.” ([11:54] Matt)
  • Jokes: “This time I think he sticks. He’s no longer Hardly Gilmore—he’s going to be fully Gilmore with Kentucky!” ([12:09] Matt)
  • Shannon: “His poor guidance counselor and academic advisors have been in hell lately with these transcripts.” ([12:39])
  • All agree Kentucky is lucky to get Gilmore back, as WR is a thin position.

4. The Next UK Athletic Director – Top Picks

• [14:01–16:46] Caller “Adam” asks Matt’s preferred candidates to replace Barnhart.
  • Matt’s Top 3:
    1. Dwayne (DePaul AD and Matt’s friend: “He’s the best at checking all the boxes.”)
    2. Rob Mullins
    3. Scott Strickland (“Dwayne will say yes if you ask him.”)
  • Emphasizes importance of donor relations for UK’s next AD.

5. UK Men’s Basketball: Coaching Decisions, Analytics, and Turbulence

Timeout Controversy & Mark Pope’s Coaching Style

• [22:58–26:06] Caller “Tate” and Matt discuss Mark Pope’s (UK MBB head coach) use (or misuse) of timeouts during a critical late-game collapse:
  • “He did not stop the run until...that was a 13-0 run...he called it at the end of the 13-0 run, which is too late.” ([24:35] Caller)
  • “They got that lead and almost put it in cruise control...just completely collapsed.” ([25:53] Matt)
  • The group agrees Pope should have used timeouts sooner to stop momentum swings.

Analytics vs. Feel

• [36:32–37:37, 38:00] Caller “Craig” floats skepticism about Pope’s future; Matt admits he’s concerned but not giving up on Pope yet:
  • “He is the computer engineer who believes whatever the computer says is correct, even if the inputs are not correct...He reminds me of the people on Twitter that will just ask Grok everything...” ([36:32–37:37] Matt)
  • “Your eyeballs should be the final say...” ([37:37] Shannon)

6. Classic KSR Call-ins and Rapid Fire

• Todd’s call for more caller time: “If you're gonna have a radio show that allows folks to call in and talk, then don’t keep people on hold while your crew rambles...” ([29:27] Read by Matt)
• “Bucky” and “six men on the court” humor, word scramble chaos, Wild Eggs Wednesday giveaways, and plans to surprise Matt’s family in Middlesboro for a special show.

7. UK Men's Season History – The 2015 Team’s Undefeated Run

• [47:11–49:43] The crew reminisces on the historic 2015 undefeated Kentucky team, debating how rare such a feat is and the broader context of undefeated regular seasons amongst power conference teams.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I give John Cal a lot of credit. That’s an honest tweet.” (Matt, [07:47])
• “He has in 15 months played for Kentucky, Nebraska, Kentucky, Louisville, Baylor, and now back to Kentucky...I don’t know how the kid...has any eligibility at all this day and age.” (Matt, [11:54])
• “This time I think he sticks. He’s no longer gonna be Hardly Gilmore—he’s going to be fully Gilmore with Kentucky!” (Matt, [12:09])
• “If you ever thought I was not telling the truth, just go back and look at that [Calipari] tweet.” (Matt, [08:33])
• “He is the computer engineer who believes whatever the computer says is correct, even if the inputs are not correct and you’re getting a weird answer.” (Matt, [36:32])
• “Your eyeballs should be the final say.” (Shannon, [37:37])
• “I don’t think Pope doesn’t know how to coach...but I also get very frustrated.” (Matt, [36:32])
• “Kentucky was up 20 in this game against Arkansas. It has now been cut to nine. The Kentucky women lead 42–33.” (Matt, [38:41])

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• [03:42] Show starts; UK women’s basketball updates
• [04:24–06:18] Lee Todd’s revelations about Calipari/Barnhart hiring history
• [07:00–08:50] Calipari’s to-the-point retirement tweet analysis
• [10:44–13:39] Hardly Gilmore’s transfer saga
• [14:01–16:46] Matt’s analysis of the AD search field
• [22:58–26:06] Timeout and coaching debate re: Mark Pope
• [36:32–37:37] “Analytics vs. feel”—Pope’s approach explored
• [47:11–49:43] Remembering the 2015 UK men’s undefeated regular season

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Overall Tone & Style

• The KSR crew combines fan passion, insider reporting, and irreverent humor.
• Banter abounds, especially on topics where personalities and egos clash behind the scenes.
• Frequent callback jokes and lighthearted criticism—of players, coaches, and even themselves.
• A healthy dose of Kentucky culture and community, keeping both hardcore Wildcats and general listeners engaged.

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Summary Takeaways

This hour of KSR captured the full spectrum of Kentucky sports fandom: behind-the-scenes administrative drama, social media drama, on-court woes and hope, the revolving door of college football’s transfer portal, and the warmth of returning home. The show’s unfiltered discussions, sharp commentary, and zany fun provided an authentic Kentucky sports experience—equal parts sports show, call-in confessional, and family reunion.

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welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

Welcome back our number two Kenny Sports Radio 859-280-2287. We are here at KS Bar and Grill open for lunch now. It is Wings Day. Dollar Wings. You excited about that?

Yes, I'm excited about actually watching the women play today here you yes, the

women are starting right now and they're shooting a three and they're making a three as they lead six to nothing to start the game against Arkansas. Arkansas one in 15 in conference drew so hopefully we can get that victory.

[Shannon]

You don't love being the first game of the tournament, but you can get an extra game playing a team that you should be able to handle. Careful not to KSR curse here, but Arkansas had a rough year.

[Matt Jones]

All right. I have two things that I really that got a little under the radar yesterday. I want to know. Let's start with Lee Todd, former UK president was interviewed. I thought he had some interesting stuff to say. He was asked about the hiring of John Cal Peri back in the day and he said and this is the first time I've ever heard someone say this, that Mitch Barnhart came to him after Tubby left and said he wanted to hire John Caliperi and Lee Todd said, no, I don't want you to. We can't risk the scandal. And then two years and so they ended up with Billy. And then two years later, of course, that didn't work. He met. He says Barnhart went to Lee Todd and said, please, why don't you at least come and talk to Cal? And in those few hours, Cal, one Lee Todd over. That's really not what people have thought for a long time. Do you think Lee Todd is doing Mitch a solid, or do you think that's what happened?

Never heard this story till Lee Todd said it. And I think he's doing falling on the sword to kind of honor Mitch a little more on his retirement. I don't know why he waited 25 years to do it, but,

I mean, I. I do think it is true. There's been this idea for a long time that Mitch didn't want to hire Cal and Mike Pratt made him and all that. I've always thought that was not true, because I know it's not true. I was communicating a lot with Mike Pratt during that hiring process. And while Cal was his favorite choice, he said. He said at the time that they basically had to convince Lee Todd. What I never heard was that Mitch wanted to hire Cal the first time. I mean, Lee knows better than I do, and I think Lee's an honest man, but I had never heard that

[Shannon]

neither, and I'd heard the opposite a thousand times. Kind of makes you wonder why Lee didn't get out in front of this as Mitch. That was the narrative.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, 20 years have let. Yeah, I guess it's nice for him

[Shannon]

to say it, if that's really how it went down on the day Mitch is being talked about and celebrated in his retirement.

[Matt Jones]

So let's talk about what Cal said. Someone read to me Cal's. You know, John Caliperi. Maybe you don't want John Calperi to do your. Your eulogy in life with his. With his congratulations tweet to. To Mitch yesterday. Read for me Drew Caliperi's farewell tweet to Mitch Barnhart.

[Shannon]

Do we need some soft music or anything?

[Matt Jones]

No, I think you're good. Yeah.

[Shannon]

I just heard that Mitch Barnhart is retiring. I wanted to say, even though Mitch and I didn't always see eye to eye, he did a good job. And I wish he and Connie well in retirement.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, Shannon, that's not exactly the most glowing endorsement ever, is it?

I was waiting for Drew to continue. That's it. That's all two sentences. Is that it or one sentence?

[Shannon]

The next tweet is about the new Tyson patch on their jerseys. So that's all that's all you get.

[Matt Jones]

Even though Mitch and I didn't see eye to eye, I like that. That was. He felt like he needed to say that immediately.

Trying to give him flowers.

The fact that it's so brief tells you all you need to know about the relationship. If that were somebody he likes, that would be three or four tweet long.

I give John Caler a lot of credit. That's an honest tweet.

It is.

That sums up their relationship.

It does.

You know what? I don't really like him, but I hope he's happy.

He did a good job.

Hope him and Connie can be happy.

I hope him and Connie are. Find happiness.

[Shannon]

I thought he could have gone, like. So many great memories. New Orleans 2012. The work we did, the great success we had.

[Matt Jones]

No, we didn't see it out.

[Shannon]

Good luck, man. Good luck with your initiative.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, you know what? You were good. Hope things go well for you.

So when Cal was here, we all knew there was somebody else kind of running his Twitter account. It's obvious.

I think he wrote that one.

I think he wrote that one. Yeah, I think he wrote that one.

That was one that has his fingerprints all over it.

[Shannon]

I don't think that was the Arkansas media director.

[Matt Jones]

I think he wrote that one. You know, when he was here, I would say all the time, mitch and Cal don't like each other. And people used to write me and go, why do you say that? You don't know that, Matt Jones. Well, if you ever thought I was not telling the truth, just go back and look at that tweet.

[Shannon]

How many times do we have to hear you are causing drama that doesn't exist or trying to stir up trouble. No, that was their relationship.

[Matt Jones]

And I think when. When I hang up my boots, my radio boots, there the two. If I did it today, the two craziest memories to me. Number one will always be Billy Gillespie being chased by Alan Cutler. And that day when they couldn't find him in Lexington and he was driving around New Circle Road trying to hide from getting fired. But number two, I think, is the day of John Calipari walking his dog out on the street. And that interview with Mitch where they both sit there with the WWF belt behind them, awkwardly trying to act like

they're friends, like their buddy, buddy. And we're gonna run it back one more time. We're in it together. We're on board. We both agree with everything. We're in it. We're a team now.

[Shannon]

What a weird ending for those. Those years when basketball Wasn't going well. What if nobody watching at home was believing a single word?

[Matt Jones]

And. And, and if you don't want to know why you should reason you shouldn't have believed it is two days later, he's gone. They did that interview on a Tuesday, and by Thursday, he was. He was on his way to Arkansas.

[Shannon]

I had a little bit of sympathy for Mitch on that one.

[Matt Jones]

I did, too. I think Cal, honestly. Cal lied to Mitch there. Yeah, that was. That was. Cal lied to Mitch, said it was good, and then was talking to Arkansas. That's. That was. That was. That was poor form by Cat.

[Shannon]

It helped us, though, so I'm glad it happened.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. All right. Next thing. Hardly Gilmore, he's I. The Harley Gilmore thing is one of the great hilarious stories. So Harley Gilmore is coming back to Kentucky for the third time in 15 months.

Pretty hard to do.

This is an amazing timeline. I'm going to read you the hardly Gilmore timeline. December 28, 2024, hardly Gilmore leaves Kentucky and enters the portal. Okay, so that means on December 27, he was here. January 1, 2025, he commits to Nebraska. April 16, 2025, leaves Nebraska and enters the portal again. So he was at Nebraska for three months. On April 17, he returns to Kentucky, plays for Kentucky. On January 7, he enters the transfer portal again, leaving Kentucky for a second time, commits to Louisville on January 8th. On January 12th, leaves Louisville after four days. Four days, commits to Baylor on January 12th of this year. And now on March 3rd, decommits from Baylor and is back to Kentucky again. He has in 15 months played for Kentucky, Nebraska, Kentucky, Louisville, Baylor, and now back to Kentucky.

That's the craziest resume I've ever seen. And it should, in that short amount of time, in one. A little over one year's time. I don't know how the kid, how you ran any eligibility at all this day and age. You transfer back and forth in a week. I shouldn't.

[Shannon]

Shouldn't.

[Matt Jones]

It doesn't smell after.

You know, they say third time's a charm. This time I think he sticks. He's no longer gonna be Hardly Gilmore. He's going to be fully Gilmore with Kentucky, and he's going to have a good. I know that Will Stein wanted to keep him. He just. Remember when we talked about what Will Stein thought about receivers, he was like, I'm only paying a lot of money for a stud. And if you're not a stud, I think Harley Gilmore was one of those. He's like, I'd like to have you, but I'm Going to pay you a certain amount of money and if you can get something else somewhere else, then. Then do it.

[Shannon]

Yeah, he's his poor guidance counselor and academic advisors have been in hell lately with these transcripts.

[Matt Jones]

Mitch is going to be working with you on the sports. That could be part of it. Could be part of it.

[Shannon]

I guess you could say. Well, my man, he loves Lexington. Even though he likes to look around, he always comes back home. I'd use this in a recruiting pamphlet. Like, look, this dude went to Nebraska, enrolled and was in the locker room and ran back. I like, around, ran back, I liked.

[Matt Jones]

He was at Louisville for four days. That's really funny to me.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

When Vince, he got like four or five of our guys. Hardly stays for a couple days up, I'm out.

Not what I thought, but I actually think he'll play. I do think he'll play this year. I actually think he'll be helpful for us. And if you remember, we've talked about receivers, the one position where we were a little thin. So I actually think Kentucky's probably happy about this.

[Shannon]

Well, last year when Bowley got it going a little bit there towards the end of the year, won a few games, part of it was he started throwing it to Gilmore. I think he had a couple games with five or six receptions there towards the end.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, he definitely had some moments last year we thought, okay, this guy could really be a big time receiver at some point.

So welcome back, Harley Gilmore. I know you'll probably be gone in a few months, but then we will welcome you back again when the season starts.

[Shannon]

If he leaves again, just say, all right, see you, man. Leave everything right where it is. Don't take his name plate off the locker, don't change any paperwork. Just let him have his moment. He'll come back.

[Matt Jones]

He'll be back.

[Shannon]

Boomerang.

[Matt Jones]

Who's up next? Shannon?

Adam.

Adam. Go ahead, Adam.

[Caller]

Hey, what's up, guys? Happy trails today. Baker. Matt, does this open up the door for you to go back on the pregame show?

[Matt Jones]

I think that's very unlikely that they'll put me on the pregame show. But, you know, I did it for a couple years. I enjoyed it. I, you know, Dave preceded me in a lot of success. I preceded Dave and being let go by the uk. UK broadcasting.

[Caller]

Yeah. Listen to the day for a long time. I hate to see him go. But also. So you've given us the. The candidates replacement and who you think is most likely and your opinion, who would you want to see? I know that's a loaded question.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean, well, Dwayne is my friend. I try. I was thinking on my drive here this morning, because on a personal level, I want Dwayne because he's my friend, and you root for your friend. I also think, objectively, Dwayne is the best at checking all the boxes this job needs. Is Dwayne a perfect candidate? No, because of the football piece now DePaul is starting to turn it around, but it took a couple years, but I kind of know what he was dealing with there. And so I actually think his early struggles. I understand. So Dwayne, to me, is number one. But I acknowledge that I have bias. So if I say Dwayne's one, for me, he's. One second would be what Drew said. You got to go ask Rob Mullins to say no. And maybe even you do that first. And then I think you're looking at, you know, your. Your after that. For me, it would probably be Strickland would be my top three. The thing is, Dwayne will say yes. So if you ask him, he'll be the ad. But, yeah, I would say for me, Dwayne, Rob Mullins, and Scott Strickland would be my top choices. And. And I like Martin Newton, too. I. I hadn't really thought of that as a part. He's a little older, though. He won't have the job as long as some of these other guys might.

[Shannon]

And Sanford's not Oregon, Alabama, or Florida, but he has had a lot of success there. And then we all know his history in this town.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think. And I appreciate the call. I think it's very important. Kentucky athletics is tied to a handful of donors in a way other programs aren't. And I just think it's very important you have somebody with a connection to those people. It doesn't mean they run the program. It just means, practically speaking, you got to be able to do that.

You know, when Dwayne left here to take the AD job at DePaul, I think we all thought at the time, he needs doing this just to groom himself, get himself groomed for the UK job. When Mitch Barnhart retired, if the John

Calipari era had not ended the way it was and Cal was still a coach here, Dwayne would be the next ad, because Dwayne and Cal had a great relationship. But the Caliperi era ending led to a different situation.

[Shannon]

And, you know, part of that was Dwayne needed to go prove himself somewhere. And the hope was probably Cal still would be here when this door opened. Just didn't work out that way. On the calendar.

[Matt Jones]

859-280-2287 Kentucky women lead 16 to 7 against Arkansas. We will take a break. Take your calls. People have got their wings. That smells really good. Hope it tastes as good as it smells. We'll take a break and be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

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welcome back, Techie Sports radio Kentucky. Mark Pope is in, at least according to this dude who covers Delaware basketball, which that is a niche. If you're. If you're. If your thing is. I'm going to cover Delaware basketball because Delaware is not a very big state. No, he covers Delaware basketball. He says that Mark Pope is in Philadelphia today to watch Dink pate of the G League. The Westchester Knicks play to potentially play college basketball next year. Dink Pate would be, I think, a good addition for us next year. Everything you read is the kid can score and I, like, I'd be for it. Would you?

[Shannon]

Heck yeah. I mean, we'll see what goes into the portal. That still has to shape itself out, but they need something at this point. If you're not gonna get a freshman. Yeah. Go to the G League. I mean, I don't love the chaos that is recruiting right now, but go get the best player you can find.

[Matt Jones]

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We were joking about this while. Can I say what happened to me?

About what?

We're talking about his name.

Oh, yeah.

And on my phone, I have a text message show up from his campaign wanting donations today. The fact that our phones listen to us like that is crazy.

Wait, so you. You got a thing asking for a donation to him and you did. You don't even know who he is?

Didn't even know who he was. I just happened to ask. You said, hey, your guy win last night, Del Monaco? You said, I'd tell Lorico Talerico and then I'll get my phone and I have a text message from his campaign wanting a one day donation.

Yeah, well, he won. Made me very happy. Here's what I would say. I posted about it. And of course, the. The online trolls start yelling at me. If you're interested in, like, why I like this person. Like, I think a lot of you are sincere. Go watch his interview with Joe Rogan. It's like two and a half hours. And if I were to articulate sort of my views, he probably does it better than I could articulate it myself. So James Talrico, he won the primary yesterday. I was a little surprised because I didn't think guys like him could win a Democratic primary, but he did. So I may disappear to Texas and go volunteer.

That's what you said. You're gonna volunteer for his campaign. Why don't they text you for that information?

I told him to text you that you had the money.

[Shannon]

Take Robin with you.

[Matt Jones]

You're gonna donate.

Tsr Texas Sports Radio.

Who's up first? Shannon.

Tate.

Tate. Go ahead, Tate.

[Caller]

Hey, guys. Love you, but I had to call in and make one correction. Obviously, last night was not excusable. Pope had some issues, but he actually did call a timeout run at, like, the 419 mark.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

After they had already taken the lead. After they had already taken the lead. So he called a timeout. We were up 12, and they, I think, grabbed the lead by two, and then he called a timeout. So, I mean, he. He did not stop the run until.

[Caller]

That's whenever they took the lead by one.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Caller]

That's only a third.

[Matt Jones]

But that's a 13 run.

[Caller]

It's been said that he didn't call a timeout the entire first half, which is just false. And.

[Shannon]

Well, we never said that. Hang on. He needed to call timeout. That stands. Nobody said he didn't call out timeout the whole half.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, are you trying to act like that was a really.

[Caller]

Last night on the post game show?

[Matt Jones]

Okay, but that did. Okay, fine. If I said that I don't remember saying that, then I was incorrect. But the point of he didn't call it.

[Caller]

That even said that, like he had one. That he would lose at halftime.

[Matt Jones]

He did. And that's why I think.

[Shannon]

No, he didn't.

[Matt Jones]

He had. When he didn't call a timeout. When he didn't call a timeout during the 130 run, he had a timeout that he would have lost. Now you're saying he called it after the run. Fair enough. And if I said he didn't, then I was incorrect. But my point was, during the 13.0run that changed the game, he did not call a timeout. And I was. I'm right about that. Yeah.

[Caller]

I mean, he called it at the end of the 13 overrun, which is too late. We're losing it like 23, 30 point.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. And we did not come out of the timeout.

[Caller]

We did not too late.

[Matt Jones]

That was my point. I appreciate the call.

[Shannon]

I was screaming at my TV call a timeout. So I know that happened. I wasn't going crazy. I was yelling, get a timeout.

[Matt Jones]

Now, it is fair to say after that break, we didn't come out and play any better. I mean, that's completely correct. I mean, we gave a third a 36 to six run is just ridiculous.

Any coach in that situation looking to stop the bleeding, especially when you're on the road, call timeout. So the crowd quiets down, they lose their momentum. It just didn't have it.

[Shannon]

Can I pay a compliment to the staff in the first half?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

We got the best challenge guy, Matt Santorino. I need to look up his name. I might have gotten that wrong. But our challenge guy that sits behind Pope, he did it again. He's unbelievable. Give him the million Mitch is getting.

[Matt Jones]

So is he the one that says

[Shannon]

he sits there and he makes the call? I don't know his. His record this year, but I'm going to say he's 100%. But he did it again last night. Didn't matter, obviously, but that was a big move early in the game when he challenged. And just more credit to him because that's his role back there.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

Part of what's so frustrating is they came out so well early.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Not only did they score, but, like, they got ahead of the defense, got a bunch of dunks. They were so good early, and then it's just like it completely collapsed.

They got that lead and, like, they almost put it in cruise control. And he played, you know, the bench and played the wrong combination of guys.

And they also didn't hustle nearly as much. The effort in the first half, those last eight minutes was poor.

It was.

[Shannon]

And that's what we saw in that run. That is their style. That is what you have to avoid. And that's why I wanted to time out, because you could see it happening where they're creating the chaos. Kentucky's throwing it to nobody, and A and M is running and gunning. That's why. Sure, he called one after a 130 run, but you got to cut that off immediately because that's where they thrive.

[Matt Jones]

You know, Mark Pope has said all year, obviously at the beginning of the year, he said, I have a Ferrari and we're going to be successful. But even throughout struggles this year, he has come back and been like, we're going to do something special. You know, like, he. He is. That has kind of stopped because they're running out of time. But you get the sense that he really felt like this was going to work this year and. And it sort of felt like to me, he's never quite connected with this group because I think he kept feeling like it's going to. It's going to happen and they've won some games, but it just hasn't happened yet.

He saw the performance like we got against Vanderbilt last week. Weekend. He had. That's. That's the Ferrari he thought he's going to get.

Do you think we come out and play well against Florida? I do, by the way, probably. I think we come out. I don't know if we can win, but I bet that game is very close.

I agree. We played Florida actually pretty well down there. Their big didn't hurt us. It was their backcourt guys that hurt us.

Yeah. Who's next?

Let's go to Joe.

Joe. Go ahead, Joe.

[Caller]

Matt, does. Does losing. Is it just me or does losing to Bucky hurt worse than, like, losing to Jason, Tom, or Jerome?

[Matt Jones]

You don't like losing the guys named Bucky? Yeah, Bucky's an odd name. You don't hear a lot of Bucky's.

[Caller]

That just ate me up all night. But I hadn't thought of it until just now. One of the biggest sports talk advertisers the last, like, whatever, 10 years is that manscaper. And the way Ryan said that Dwayne was grooming himself and his wild eggs work. I think this is a match made in heaven.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think Ryan would be a good manscaper advertiser. They should look into you for that. It feels like that one's. That one really is connected to you.

I'm willing to volunteer and do a live demonstration if we need to.

So, you know, I had something to say. Bucky. Bucky. People don't name their kids Bucky, do they? Is their name like, what is the name? They love them. What is the name that leads to Bucky being what they're called? Is it Buck?

[Shannon]

He's a Henry.

[Matt Jones]

So how do he. So how do Henry's turn turn into Bucky's?

Well, there was a Buck Henry, hall of Fame baseball player. Maybe that his name is Henry. Maybe they started calling him Buck Henry.

But in general, where does the name Buck come from? How do you like, like you know what Jack will come from, John. But do people name their kids Bucky?

I don't know a Bucky.

[Shannon]

I don't know where they come from, how it starts.

[Matt Jones]

I just, it's an odd name to start. Look at your child come out and go, that's a Bucky. I'll be right back. T.J. smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. he'll make him pay.

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

Welcome back Techie Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. Todd is very upset.

Todd.

Todd writes, if you're gonna have a radio show that allows folks to call it and talk, then don't keep people on hold while your crew rambles about multiple topics. Pick a topic for an hour, Give your take. Shut up and take calls. Wow.

Was that Todd from yesterday that changed his name from Michael?

I don't know. Todd very upset though.

Michael would be a lot nicer than toddlers.

You must be new to this show because this show is basically us rambling about multiple topics. I mean that is the show.

[Shannon]

Long time of that. A lot of mornings of doing that post game show.

[Matt Jones]

It's me rambling and then letting you take your calls. What about the, what about having six guys on the court?

[Shannon]

I like the effort. Gotta try something. Nothing else was working.

[Matt Jones]

How do they not catch that?

I don't know.

He was upset. He was right. Showed the screen. There's six guys out there. They're getting ready to shoot a free throw and that's what's all crazy was dead action and they didn't see six guys out there.

What if we had won because of that?

It'd be awesome.

But I noticed in the Vandy game last night, Shannon, they went back in time. Did you see that? And called a flagrant on a play that had happened like two plays before.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I didn't know you could do that, did you?

No. I guess they're making it up as we go. I've never.

It was a key point in the game. They went backwards a couple plays and were like, yeah, that was a flagrant a couple plays ago.

[Shannon]

Came down to the wire there. And in our game with, with the six players, I get a little annoyed by the short bench complaints. But if we're going to play six guys at one time, I do think you're hurting your bench there and your fatigue. If you're running out more guys than you need to.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it was. You know, you talked about Pope not liking the Saturday Tuesday. What's he gonna feel in the SEC tournament when we play Wednesday, Thursday, Friday? I mean, that's gonna be hard.

[Shannon]

We're playing Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. All right, I'm back in now you're talking me into some stuff now. Yeah. Also, the. The Wednesday to Saturday turnaround is the same thing. Like, there's seven days in a week. If two days are game days, it is impossible to have three days off between every game.

[Matt Jones]

That is true. I mean, Wednesday, Saturday is the exact same.

[Shannon]

You're gonna have a two day gap between games. So you have to.

[Matt Jones]

It's just a really, really bad argument that he's trying to say fatigue is hurting his team.

You and I are going with Mario to. Well, first of all, it is the Wild Eggs Wednesday.

Yes.

Wild eggs you can is your best spot for breakfast and brunch. And Wild eggs is not just about Ryan's ads. It's also about good food. It's Wild Eggs Wednesday. Our Wild eggs word of the day, which will get you a fifty dollar gift card from Wild Eggs, is now being sent out on the ksr. Tick tock. Ryan picked the word.

[Shannon]

Oh, no.

[Matt Jones]

Have you just put it up.

[Shannon]

I gotta look at this.

[Matt Jones]

All right. I gotta see what you put up.

Okay.

If Ryan picked the word, there's no way. This is not. And first response that is correct wins. Oh, my goodness. That's a lot of letters.

Yeah.

Mommy squammy.

Oh, that's a good one.

Is this one word? This is not one word. Right?

That's one word.

[Shannon]

I haven't gotten to it yet.

[Matt Jones]

I have no idea what that is. That's not one word. Yeah, you found a word with 14 letters. Oh, no, that's not it. Shannon. Do you know what it is? Are you looking at it?

I'm trying to find it here.

[Shannon]

Somebody unforgettable.

[Matt Jones]

I got it.

[Shannon]

One second. Sorry, Dude.

[Matt Jones]

This is two days in a row, Drew. This is two days in a row.

All right.

When did you become Ryan with diarrhea at the mouth?

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I just pulled it up and it jumped right out.

[Matt Jones]

Two days in a row that you have just completely dropped. So what are you doing?

[Shannon]

I got it at first sight.

[Matt Jones]

It doesn't matter. It's a game.

[Shannon]

I understand.

[Matt Jones]

Did you drop it, Shannon? No.

[Shannon]

We'll pick harder ones.

[Matt Jones]

No, just, like, have mouth control. Also.

[Shannon]

Somebody already got it.

[Matt Jones]

He dropped the Middlesboro thing yesterday. Social media.

[Shannon]

You'll be fine.

[Matt Jones]

Pick harder words.

[Shannon]

All I did was look at it.

[Matt Jones]

Mouth control.

He doesn't have mouth control.

That's next week's scrambled word mouth.

Yeah, mouth control. Tom, there's your word drop at the SEC tournament. Mouth control.

[Shannon]

That was easy.

[Matt Jones]

Drew doesn't have it. Can you. By the way, we are going tomorrow to Middlesboro. It was supposed to be a surprise. Drew dropped it during the show.

[Shannon]

Let's get excited.

[Matt Jones]

And then Shannon left it on the podcast. So I blame both of you.

You forgot to remind me. I blame you.

Here's the reason we're doing it. I wanted it to be a surprise for everybody else. I really. So we'll talk about this more tomorrow. We got a fairly positive report about my dad, and I wanted to take the show and go spin the show with my. My. We're going to do a show in front of my parents tomorrow. So Ryan, Drew, and Mario. Oh, and I are going to Middlesboro and doing the show there tomorrow. I didn't want to, like, say it because it's not a remote. We're just going to be at my. Our house. But people have asked for a long time, and I appreciate. Everybody comes up and asks me about my dad. He, you know, still has a long road ahead, but it's a more positive situation than it was a couple months ago. And so we wanted to go kind of celebrate with him and go down there. So it's supposed to be a surprise that Drew ruined, but that's what. That's what we're.

[Shannon]

It's gonna be unforgettable.

[Matt Jones]

That's what we're. That's what we're doing tomorrow.

Larry is one of our favorite guys. You know, admire and respect that man, what he's going through right now. So, yeah, we just wanted to give him. Give him his flowers tomorrow.

By the way, people got it right, Shannon. Once Drew said it, they were. They were able to actually get it correct.

Didn't even have a chance to pull up the word. See it scrambled.

[Shannon]

I took longer finding Tick tock than I did getting the word.

[Matt Jones]

Unbelievable. Who's next? Greg Craig. Go ahead, Craig.

[Caller]

Hey, bless your dad. That's good news. I just wanted to say I think last night was probably the most disheartening loss that Pope has had since he's been here. Just because, you know, gave up 90 plus in March, the timeout, same thing, substitutions, same things. And, you know, we could make excuses for it. He didn't really get worked by John Wooden.

[Matt Jones]

Out there.

[Caller]

I mean, it was just rough to watch. But I wanted to get your thoughts. I think a lot of times your first reaction is your best reaction. And I know, looking back from all the hires when I was a kid, I can remember the first one was Eddie Sutton. I wasn't that excited, but everybody tries to talk himself into. It turned out poorly. I thought it was a home run with Pitino. It was Tubby's. The only one where I wasn't that excited. It turned out to be a really good coach. I thought Billy G wasn't excited, didn't understand how this guy, you know, got the job. Turned out poorly. I was fired up for Cal. And then I think most people, as much as we try to talk ourselves into Pope, when he was hired, it was lukewarm at best from everybody. And I think, you know, I hate it, but I don't. Whether you keep it one more year, three more years, I don't think it's gonna work well.

[Matt Jones]

And you might be right. We'll see. But I also. I appreciate the call. I'm not ready to give up yet at all. I mean, I. I am dis. Discouraged. But as I said last night, I don't think it's. I don't think Pope doesn't know how to coach. I don't think he doesn't know how to motivate. I don't think he. I'm worried about getting players, but I don't think he is somehow not good at his job. But I also get very frustrated. I think he is. I've decided I. In his. In my mind, he is the computer engineer who believes whatever the computer says is correct, even if the inputs are not correct and you're getting a weird answer. He reminds me of the people on Twitter that will just ask Grok everything, and whatever it says, it assumes what has to be correct. It said it. That's how I think Pope is with these analytics. It's like it tells me to take out Aberdeen. I have to. Yeah, but, you know, Mark, Aberdeen is the only guy that we have that can dribble it up the floor. Well, I'm taking him out.

[Shannon]

I love analytics and basketball. You need them, but your eyeballs should be the final say. And if a guy's just not out there giving his best or when he's missing shots, he's wide right, clanking it off the backboard. You need to put the analytics aside. Maybe he's not bringing what the analytics thought he would that night. Or maybe you have a guy who you didn't expect to play well. Is on fire. You just kind of got to ride that wave and trust what's happening right in front of you.

[Matt Jones]

What do you think about Garrison throwing in that ball in the guy's face?

I predicted that Garrett's gonna have a fight or a technical at some point during that game.

Yes, you did.

And I thought that was gonna be it. I thought, he's gonna hit that guy, and they're gonna get up, they're gonna have a fight. I kind of like it. We need somebody like that. Need a Jamal McGlory guy that's not afraid to push people around. He just needs to do it more often.

I don't know if he needs to take two threes.

No. Take that out of your repertoire.

It's a good move, though.

[Shannon]

I like what he did. Yeah, Trolls him a little bit. Although we might have a little 4 on 5 if he could have thrown it out and got going. But still, I like, got landing your fleet feet. Just given the old Josh Harrelson Jared

[Matt Jones]

Solinger spike, could be he'd be 611 and miss a bunny layup right in front of him.

And he does that quite a bit. He does that quite a bit. Kentucky was up 20 in this game against Arkansas. It has now been cut to nine. The Kentucky women lead 42, 33 here with just about 30 seconds left in the first half. We'll take a break. 859-280-2287. Hopefully, Drew will spoil more surprises.

[Shannon]

Curveball. It's. That's not the word.

[Matt Jones]

It's not the word?

[Shannon]

No. It doesn't fit.

[Matt Jones]

That's not the word.

[Shannon]

That's what people tell me online. There's too many T's.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, wait a minute. Hang on. So, no, wait a minute.

[Shannon]

I gave a fake word.

[Matt Jones]

Now, apparently, it is un. You spelled it wrong, didn't you, Ryan?

I didn't post it on the graphic.

[Shannon]

There are too many T's. So my answer is incorrect.

[Matt Jones]

Hang on just a sec.

[Caller]

It.

[Shannon]

I was throwing you off.

[Matt Jones]

Unfor. Yeah, Shan, you spelled unforgettable wrong.

I didn't put it on the graphic.

Unforgettable lust.

[Shannon]

I'm just glad the heat's off me.

[Matt Jones]

You spelled unforgettable wrong. It wasn't me.

Also, he just copied and paste what I sent him.

He said you copied and paste what he said. So there are three T's on here.

[Shannon]

Eliminates unforgettable. My name is out of this. But what.

[Matt Jones]

What did you intend the word to be?

Unforgettables.

So unforgettables. There's no S in your word.

[Shannon]

Look, unforgettable.

[Matt Jones]

I sent him a word. There's spell check. There's all kind of things.

You can let me see what you

[Shannon]

said him right there.

[Matt Jones]

Unforgettables. That's exactly what.

Yeah, that's on you, Mario. You put three T's and no S.

Wow, what a crew we got here.

Look at this, look at that. Look at this crew. I deal with Shannon. I mean I got real Ryan.

Wow.

Who the first time took two words. I got Drew just blurting out the answer. Not the answer and Mario misspelling everything.

[Shannon]

Can we count this person? They said ton forgettable. I think we should just count it next week.

[Matt Jones]

Can we just make the word cat?

Yeah, you know the Wild eggs Wednesday, like everything we do a disaster.

[Shannon]

Perfect.

[Matt Jones]

We will take a break. Be right back.

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back Techie Sports Radio 859-280-2287. On the text machine, one person writes, matt, why did you do that? When on Tick tock. I don't have Tick Tock exactly. It's to try to get you to follow our tick Tock. There's a method to this madness. I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday like you. You. We do it on the different social media accounts. So then you follow and we grow the social media accounts. It's marketing that.

That.

Right?

Yes.

That's what you're trying to do with this.

So we're spreading it out.

I mean our TikTok account, we didn't even have a tick tock account when we hired, when we hired Mario. And now it has 42,800 people that. And he built that from nothing. And, and it's, it made a huge impact. College students in that area in like high school, college, a little bit out of college. They know us now from TikTok. I meet people all the time who are like you're the guy from TikTok, which is weird to me. But, you know, the reason we hired Mario is I started to notice that, like, we weren't as big from, like 20 to 27 year olds as we used to be. And I'm getting older, so how are we going to do it? And that it has worked extremely well. So, like, that's the whole point. You do Facebook for the older people, Twitter for people my age, instagram for like 8 to 10 years younger than me, and then tick tock for younger than that. And then there'll be something else. Flip flab or something. And we'll have to put it on there, too.

[Shannon]

We on Blue sky next week.

[Matt Jones]

I can't do Blue Sky. I tried because I was like, this is where my political people are. And it's. I can't those. They're all. It's awful. I wouldn't be on Twitter either, except we have to for sports. Instagram is my. I think that's the right place for me. Maybe. Tick tock. Twitter's too mean. And Facebook is all people falling for AI images of, like, Jesus hugging Nate Oats. And I'm like, this is not. This is not real.

You could do truth Social. I think that would be.

I'm not. I don't think true social is right for me. Probably. I haven't been on it, but I'm gonna guess who's next.

Let's go to Bob and Jamestown.

Good. Bob and Jamestown, go ahead.

[Caller]

Well, Jim host with the most. He had some good words for Mitch. Sounded good. Shame on jmf what they did to Dave Baker. Hopefully the new AD will go in there and find good contract logger and cut that JMI loose. I'm. I got my fingers crossed for the sports store the year Miami Red obstacle

[Shannon]

and all the way.

[Matt Jones]

What do you think about Bruce Pearl, Bob saying your alma mater should not be in the tournament if they lose in the conference tournament?

[Caller]

Well, I mean, that's. That's. Bruce got an opinion, but we'll see what plays out.

[Matt Jones]

Anyway, it's very magnanimous of him. Bruce has his opinion.

Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I appreciate the call. It'll be fascinating. You know, they won again by two points. They have won like 10 of their conference games have been two points, three points. They really do have an unbelievable ability to win these close games.

I like Jimmy Dyke's line last night. He said, people keep saying they haven't beat anybody. They've beat everybody.

It's a good line.

I think it's a great Line beat anybody. They beat everybody.

You think, you think they, you know they play Ohio Saturday, Friday night, play Ohio Friday night if they win. Undefeated for the season. Be the first time anybody's gone under so far. In the last 15 years the only three teams have gone. Two teams got undefeated. Gonzaga went undefeated one year and then the 2015 Kentucky team in the regular season. Miami would be third.

[Shannon]

I expect they'll do it with Ohio Friday. There'll be a pretty big favorite. And honestly with the. Even though they had some tight games throughout conference play, I think with the tournament right in front of them, they'll run the table in the conference tournament. But outside with Bruce, if they lose your undefeated conversations out of the way. So what are you showing me?

[Matt Jones]

We'll never. I think really as a fan base appreciate what that 2015 team did. They'll never be a power conference team, go undefeated and even. I mean Gonzaga not a power conference team if Miami does it, not a power conference team. I mean, what's the last regular season undefeated in a power conference? Besides Kentucky? I guess UNLV was undefeated, but also not a power conference.

What conference Wichita State in when they

not a power conference? The. They were in the Missouri Valley at the time. So I mean, is it Indiana? Is it Indiana?

[Shannon]

Yeah, it's Indiana because I mean that.

[Matt Jones]

That deserved like I know we lost, but in the last 50 years there's been one power conference team go undefeated in the regular season and it's us. I mean that's pretty amazing if you think about it.

[Shannon]

And just running through your conference, you know, they're not like Miami playing scrubs. The hardest team on their schedule was Kansas and they won by 32. Would they smoke North Carolina that year? I'm sure Louisville was probably ranked when they beat them in their non conference

[Matt Jones]

in sec we had like two close games. If you remember, we played Ole Miss close at home. They almost beat us. And then at LSU when Carl Towns had to hit that shot at the end to win. I think pretty much every game. Besides that, we had a little bit of a margin.

Dominated most of that season and it was so, so fun to watch. It's just a shame that title didn't end up here that year.

[Shannon]

I think A and M took him to OT too. I think they were.

[Matt Jones]

You're right. A and M did take us though. Who's next? Dave? Dave. Go ahead, Dave.

[Caller]

Hey guys, I just had a random Kentucky basketball comment. I had a question for Ryan. I've been reading this really great book called Adolph Rupp and The rise of Kentucky basketball. Learning a lot. Especially like I never knew that Cliff BARKER on that 1948 team was in World War II and was like a German POV prisoner of war in like the World War II and then come back and played for Kentucky basketball. Which is fascinating. But it made me think about the show you guys did after Memorial Coliseum reopened and Ryan had made a comment about that Adolph Rupt's office you couldn't get to or they won't let you get to or something like that. Ryan, is that the case? And I just didn't know if they. Why that was the case.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it's kind of sad actually. It's tucked away back in a storage area. They use these office for like storage. It's kind of. It's kind of sad when you walk back there and see where it is now. Way back in. In the corner of underneath everything.

Adolph Rupp's office immemorial.

Yeah. Yeah.

What do you mean they won't let you. Apparently you got back there.

Yeah. You have to. You have to get access to get back where a store, big storage area. But it. That's where it is to get back to it. And it's kind of sad. It's just kind of tucked away over there.

Yeah. Well that is sad. All right, so tomorrow. So first of all tonight we'll be at the 13th region. Get to the sea a little Bell County. Little Pineville.

Bell County's got the maybe the best freshman in the state in Braxton Ferguson get us watch him tonight.

Yeah, that's a name by the way. I think you've said this before. Freshmen and sophomores. There was a sophomore. They lost. Was it male that went for like 45 points last night.

And Josh Lindsay at Saint X is a sophomore. He's a superstar.

Yeah, Ballard. Ballard beat male in a crazy game last night in the regional. And then tomorrow we will be in Middlesborough. My mom is cooking for. For us for breakfast.

[Shannon]

Love. Yes, breakfast.

[Matt Jones]

So hey, thank you guys very much. Great to see you all today. Appreciate you coming out Friday we are at Paul Miller. Be back here tomorrow. This has been Kentucky Sports Radio. Everyone deserves to be connected.

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