2026-03-24- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

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KSR Podcast Summary — March 24, 2026, Hour 2

Main Theme:
This episode offers a real-time pulse check on the Kentucky basketball fanbase after a disappointing end to the season, focusing on reactions to Coach Mark Pope’s comments. Host Matt Jones and the KSR crew take rapid-fire calls, analyze the fanbase’s mood, and discuss broader issues affecting UK athletics, particularly the controversial contract extension for outgoing AD Mitch Barnhart.

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Opening Chatter & TV Recommendations (02:51–06:00)

• Matt Jones urges listeners to watch the HBO Max show Neighbors, describing it as “neighbors fighting over stupid stuff” (03:18). He recounts wild, unsolved stories from the show and jokes about potentially being featured himself when he moves into a new house (04:45).
• The crew banters approvingly, with everyone agreeing it’s “enthralling” and “very good” (04:48–05:08).

“Neighbors is what television is about. More people should know it. Everyone should watch it.” — Matt Jones (03:18)

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NCAA East Regional Credential & Anticipation (06:00–07:16)

• Matt announces he’s been credentialed for the NCAA East Regional, featuring Duke, St. John’s, Michigan State, and UConn.
• He is surprised at how easily he got credentialed and is excited to attend as media (06:06–07:05).

“I'm just going to watch it and I'm going to enjoy it because, like, those are going to be two great games.” — Matt Jones (06:41)

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Rapid-Fire Fan Calls: State of Kentucky Basketball (07:17–17:14)

Caller Themes & Key Quotes

• Rick: Iowa State loss wasn’t about lacking a left-handed PG; team was unprepared (07:17–07:40).
• Glenna: “Just really sad and kind of at a loss for words for how Kentucky basketball is right now… the baby crying on the postgame show could not have been a more KSR ending to the season” (07:41–08:02).
• Chris: Skeptical of Mark Pope as the right coach but will support him. “Neighbors is a great show.” (08:12–08:31)
• Mark: Feels fan intelligence was insulted by coach comments, criticizes spin on recent history (08:40–09:42).
• Nathaniel: Finds optimism in Pope’s focus on elite talent moving forward (09:42–10:05).
• Adam: “Calipari is a Hall of Fame coach... you’re not comparing apples to apples.” (10:30–10:55)
• Aaron: Supports Pope but wishes he’d take more personal responsibility for failures (11:11–11:44).
• Ma/Matt: Concerns about bringing back too many current players, citing lack of physicality (11:50–12:10).
• Darnell, Grant, CW, Mitch: Discussion on coaching qualifications, retention, and university leadership analogies (13:01–14:38).

“We need to just stop pretending that Mark was anything but a personality hire for Mitch.” — Grant (13:32)

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Facebook Misinformation/Fan Culture (17:40–21:33; 27:23–29:29)

• The crew jokes about the bizarre and false “news stories” circulating in UK Facebook groups, e.g., fake headlines about players, Mark Pope, and wild conspiracies (27:23–29:29).
• Discussion about how Facebook skews perceptions, especially among less media-savvy fans.

“The amount of comments and shares suggest… Whoopi yelled, unplug his microphone, and Pope said, ‘You can mute my mic but you can’t mute the truth.’” — Drew, lampooning fake Facebook news (27:44–27:56)

“There are a lot of Aunt Berthas out there… Just because it’s a picture doesn’t mean it’s true.” — Matt Jones (37:41–37:42)

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Open Phones Continued: Blame, Roster, and Statistics (21:33–26:59; 36:08–47:25)

• More fan calls reveal a deeply divided fanbase on Coach Pope:
  • Some call him a poor fit/“panic hire,” others defend his first season achievements.
  • Debate over whether retention or turnover is the solution for next year’s roster.
  • Multiple callers cite detailed win-rate stats comparing Pope and Calipari (16:19–16:50).
  • A few defenders call for more patience, recalling that even legendary Coach Joe B. Hall struggled in his second year (45:23–46:24).
• Recurring concern: Need for elite talent and effective roster management for future success.

“Coach Hall’s first year… made the NCAA tournament… second year went a big fat 13 and 13… and you think BBN is unhappy now, you should've seen us back in with Coach Hall.” — Ed (45:23)

“Coach Pope just needs to get some dudes.” — Adam (38:54)

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Name, Image, Likeness (NIL) & JMI Deal Differences (23:36–25:25)

• A caller notes football can land elite QBs while basketball cannot. Matt explains the differences in how NIL/Rev Share works by sport.
• Football can target a handful of big names while the basketball market demands even more money for elite prospects; Matt expresses skepticism but openness about whether the JMI model will work for hoops.

“I am ready to say with some confidence that I think JMI’s process for football is actually working pretty well. I am yet to believe it… for basketball.” — Matt Jones (24:54)

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Athletic Department Scandal — Mitch Barnhart’s Contract (31:46–35:56)

• Matt details objections from major donor Brett Setzer about President Capilouto’s secret, unilateral award of a $2 million contract extension—and free lifetime tickets—for outgoing AD Mitch Barnhart.
• The crew calls for transparency, oversight, and board accountability, comparing Barnhart’s perks to those provided for legendary coach Joe B. Hall (who still had to pay for tickets).
• Matt and Drew predict significant unrest among boosters and fans.

“There is no deal that the president of the university would do in any realm… where he could solo give someone $2 million with no oversight.” — Matt Jones (31:46)

“There’s a lot of boosters who think this stinks like a lot of the fans do.” — Drew (34:26)

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Notable Quotes & Humorous Moments

On Coaching & Fan Expectations

• “I'm discouraged. And what I'm discouraged about, we're stuck with Mark Pope. That's all I got.” — CW (14:01)
• “If I'm a coach of a D1 school, I'm not recruiting a point guard that can't go left as well as he can go right.” — Scott (25:25)
• “Last year he overachieves and says he failed the assignment. This year he underachieves and makes excuses. So which one is it?” — Mark (47:11)

On Social Media & Misinformation

• “Who is the person that sees that and goes, yeah, that Mark Pope was on the View and confronted Whoopi?” — Matt Jones (28:11)
• “Although to be fair, Pope did put Whoopi in her place.” — Matt Jones (37:51)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Fan Call Blitz Begins: 07:17
• NIL & JMI Discussion: 23:36
• Barnhart Controversy Breakdown: 31:46
• Facebook Misinformation Montage: 27:23–29:29
• Legacy of Previous Coaches/Fan Frustration: 45:23–46:24

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Tone & Takeaways

Throughout, Matt’s trademark sarcasm and irreverence set the tone, balanced with analysis, empathy for disappointed fans, and calls for more accountability at all levels of UK Athletics. The show provides an unvarnished sampling of the Big Blue Nation’s mood, blending raw fan emotion with pointed institutional criticism and trademark KSR wit.

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For listeners seeking an unfiltered snapshot of Kentucky fan sentiment—and the issues roiling UK athletics today—this episode is essential listening.

Transcript

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Welcome back. Our number two Kee Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. We're going to go to the and I want to use this like as a measure of the fan base. You know, everybody talks about where the fan base is or who thinks what. Let's just, we'll do the 30 seconds and let people go. 859-280-2287 the lines are open now. Just a couple of things before we do it. Number one, I have a TV show that if you all don't watch, I will not be afraid.

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What's it called?

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I can also put my stamp of approval on it. I've seen it. It's very good.

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Okay.

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It's a real Show. It's not like it's not scripted, but it's just about neighbors fighting over dumb things.

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I'm in it. I'm on it.

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Great. And they. And the thing is, after the first two episodes, they don't solve how all these things end. I hope they're going to do that before it's over.

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But tie it all together.

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I need to know. Like, with the guys with the fence, I mean, you talk about two crazy people and, like, they're trying to find common ground, but they're both insane. One of them thinks he's a Dungeon and Dragons Lord. The other one's like a Qanon guy. They have piercings everywhere. And then they bring in this dude on a motorcycle to try to mediate, and he looks as crazy as they are.

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If I was in a fight with my neighbor and HBO wanted to document it, I'd be like, maybe we're out of line here. Maybe we should dial it back just a little bit.

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If they want to feature us on hbo. HBO thinks y' all are a little much. Maybe you should dial back. Promise me you'll watch it.

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I will.

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Yeah, I'll watch it once you turn it on. I know you.

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Okay.

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You're gonna love it.

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Okay.

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You're gonna love it. I also, I got credentialed for. For the East Regional, so I'm going to.

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It's massive.

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I'm going to Duke, St. John's Michigan State, Yukon. I mean, my thought is, when are you going to have a. When are you going to have a regional that has. I mean, those are four. I mean, if you consider Patino separate than St. John's I mean, you got Duke patino, Hurley and Izzo. Come on. It's a wild lineup. It's a wild lineup.

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You can go as a member of the media and just enjoy the game. You don't have to be, you know,

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probably get a better seat than I get in Rubbery.

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No doubt.

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You better X straight or the media will call you out or your tie.

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I'm not doing it right.

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Write your box score down.

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I'm just going to watch it and I'm going to enjoy it because, like, those are going to be two great games.

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Yeah, you can go and enjoy the games.

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Yeah.

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To get up and leave and pace or anything.

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I might be pacing for St. John's against Duke.

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You got to wear St. John's hoodie.

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Well, I got to be in the media. So I'm not supposed to wear. Yeah, but I'm going and I'm looking forward to it. I couldn't believe they credentialed me in three minutes. I couldn't believe it. It was easier to get that than the SEC tournament.

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Shannon. I can't get anything more.

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It just means more. All right, so let's see what the. Let's see what the people think. Here we go. Let's just go down here. Let's start with Rick. Go, Rick.

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It wouldn't have mattered if we had two point guards on the floor. They couldn't handle Iowa State's defense. And it was also like they didn't do no pregame preparation for that defense. And then when we did get through the defense, we couldn't make no shots.

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So you don't think the left handed point guard matters?

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No, not.

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All right.

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All right.

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Glenna, 30 seconds for everybody. Glenna, go.

[F]

I'm just really sad and kind of at a loss for words for how Kentucky basketball is right now. And another thing, the baby crying on the post game show could not have been a more KRS ending to the way our season has gone.

[C]

It was really loud. Appreciate it, Glenn. Like when I was. It was. It was. It was very krs. That's exactly right. Chris, Go.

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Yeah. I do not think Mark Pope is the answer. He was not qualified for this position. He's done nothing to change my mind since. And I don't see it getting better in the future. But I will say that I am going to be positive this summer. He is going to be the coach. So nothing to do but get behind him and support him and neighbors is a great show. Thank you.

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There you go. Appreciate it. 859-280-2287 let's hear what you got to say. This is your chance, Mark. Go Mark.

[F]

First time, long time who intelligence was. My intelligence and at a big blue nation was insulted. When you go on a radio show and try to try to justify this season. Last year he went on a press conference after getting the sweet 16 and it's easy to be a gracious winner, I suppose. But now he doesn't know how to. To. To act in defeat. He used. The numbers he used are ridiculous. Pope Overall 63.9% Nathaniel Go. I wanted to say I think the show yesterday Mark Pope show gave me a little more optimism about next year. The main reason was his creator's comment finally seems like he needs elite talent. And I was a little skeptical after the postgame show where he Made the comment of finding guys that want to be at Kentucky because of what Kentucky is. Kentucky is Kentucky because we've had elite players throughout the years, not because we've gotten guys that just wanted to be at Kentucky. So go get those guys, Coach Pope, and we will make them.

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There you go. Like it. By the way, you say what you said about the show Paradise.

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Yeah. Paradise is my favorite show on tv. And last night thought, I'll take a little break from basketball, just watch the women win. It's a great point in the season. And towards the end, the president's giving this big speech about fallen dynasties and empires. And then he goes, don't get me started on Kentucky basketball. I'm just like, can I just get a distraction?

[C]

So he was acting like Kentucky was a fallen empire.

[E]

Yeah. He's naming all these times in history that people thought they had it all and how quickly it can fall. And then he went, don't get me started with Kentucky basketball.

[C]

We gotta talk to Josh Hopkins about that. Oh, I text him immediately. Josh was on. That's why it was on initially.

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It's going way too far the other way now. Now it's even being negative.

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Yeah. We can't have these shows be negative on the shows we like. Let's go to Adam. Go, Adam.

[F]

What's up, guys? It's hard. I was ready for a change at the end of the Caliper era. It had gotten stale. But Mark's Pope's comments about Caliperi, comparing the two Caliper. He's a Hall of Fame coach that has a national championship and six Final Four. So, I mean, you're not comparing apples to apples. Mark Pope has not accomplished anything near what Caliparius has done.

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Appreciate the call, Aaron. Go ahead, Aaron. Again, the reason I'm doing this, I think it's interesting to hear a cross section of the fan base there. I don't think there's any entity where you hear more different viewpoints, which is why I want to give people a chance to go. Go, Aaron.

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Hey, man, it's Aaron from Harrogate. Look, man, and I'm a Pope supporter, but something's changed between last year, man. This year, he's a different person. I really think he's feeling the pressure of the job. The stuff last night that he said, the one thing I never heard was, guys, this is my fault. You know, I'm the one to blame and I'm going to get this ride. I've still yet to hear that, and that does give me a lot of

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pause and a lot of Ma, go ahead. Ma

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might be mad.

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That's my fault there. Matt.

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Matt or Ma. Yeah, go ahead.

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I think what's going to burn Pope next season is he's going to bring back too many of these guys, and we're just going to have a bad foundation of non. Physicality. Non as it can put the ball on the floor. I think Chandler and Marine are starters, the more bench players, and he's got to go out and find five or six guys he can put in this lineup.

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Appreciate the call. It did sound like retention was a big thing for him. So you do wonder how many of these guys he wants to bring back.

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Yes.

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You know, we talked about Brandon Garrison. I think he really, really loves Brandon Garrison. Is he a guy you want to bring back?

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One of the people I spoke to last night said, if it was up to Pope, this was their direct quote. If it was up to Pope, he thought he'd bring everyone back except one guy. And he didn't say who the guy was.

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Well, he said after the game, I have a sophomore guard in the starting lineup, a young center and a young power forward his first year of college basketball. So he at least endorsed. That would be Chandler, Marino, Yelovich, essentially.

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I didn't. I didn't hear him say that. Darnell. Go ahead, Darnell. Darnell,

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Hello.

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Go.

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You know, I still like Pope. You know, like this season, he has a 5 and 3 record against the Sweet 16 teams, and it's Iowa State, their number one seed, that they blew out Purdue by 24 points on their home court in the middle of the season. So. Gopo.

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All right. They weren't a number one seed. They were two. Grant. Go ahead, Grant.

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Hey, gentlemen. First time, long time.

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Who are.

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Hey, you know, I think we need to just stop pretending that Mark was anything but a personality hire for Mitch. I know he played here. We love the guy, but he had very minimal success as a head coach prior to coming to Kentucky. And I think all of our fears prior to the press conference that lit that nostalgic fire, and it's all came true. I don't think he's qualified. I just don't think he's got the chops for this. Love the guy.

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He's a wonderful cw. Go.

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Well, I'm discouraged. And what I'm discouraged about, we're stuck with Mark Pope. That's all I got.

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Mitch, go.

[F]

All right, so the guy stole my personality piece, but I'm going to give you an alternative. There are two major sports factions here. In Kentucky. I'm going to leave a little bit. Churchill Downs a long time ago had a perception issue and they fixed it by getting young, getting lean, getting smart. Now they're a national. In fact, international superpower. UK needs to make a hire to help that at the ad.

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I actually think it's a great analogy. Appreciate the call. Churchill Downs was in the Kentucky Derby, were in a crisis about 10 to 12 years ago and they've turned it down to where. When I meet strangers of all ages, the first thing they say to me when I hear Kentucky is, I'd love to go to the Derby. Like in Churchill. What they did, I don't really know. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not up on. Exactly. But that's a. I like that analogy quite a bit. Connor. Go, Connor.

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Just want to say that DeMarcus cousins who went after our Matt Jones, he's the same DeMarcus cousins that said that UK would not be on TV anymore after you left. Also, he's not UK, he's Cal University.

[C]

Appreciate the call. I don't want it. I appreciate you taking. Taking up for me, but I do love DeMarcus. DeMarcus wants Kentucky to be good. That you just reminded me what it was. I forgot about that. I was trying to remember why DeMarcus got mad at me when Cal left, because he did and I couldn't remember. And that's what it was. He said we'd never be on TV anymore. And I responded that that was ridiculous. And that was when he got mad.

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That's it.

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Now I remember. I. Last night, I was sitting there racking my brain going, he got mad at me, but I can't remember what it was. That's what it was. He went on TV and said they would not be on television again. And I was like, that's absurd. And then he got upset.

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That was it.

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That was it. Cool, man. Go ahead. Cool.

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Pope is like soap, not on a rope in prison. We're screwed.

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Mark. Go ahead, Mark.

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Hope 63.9% in two years. Cal over the last three or four years, 63.5%. To focus on how selective these numbers are. Cows last year, 69.7%. Cows last two years, 67.2% cows last three years, 70.3% cows last five years, 66.9% last six, 69.6. Everything else is above 70. This is such. Trying to use numbers to justify is ridiculous and that is an insult to big blue nations.

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Appreciate it. That's actually interesting. The only timeframe in which Pope would have been better were those were 4. He's just saying it wouldn't have been true at 2 3, 56 only with 4. But to be fair, 4 is post Covid and that's for a lot of people. Kind of a natural breaking point. But that's an interesting point. Rest of you hang on, we'll keep going on this. If you're paying a premium for roadside assistant getting gouge for phone insurance doctor visit co pays feeling more expensive Unlock every advantage with Blue Vantage checking from UK Credit Union Peace of mind Roadside assistance, cell phone protection, dark web monitoring. It's all there. It's UK Federal Credit Union Credit union, the University of Kentucky Additional fees apply Membership eligibility required Insurer by the NCUA Drew's way too happy about these Facebook

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I can't quit scrolling them. I'm paying attention to you all these are out of control. It's worse than I ever imagined.

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But imagine if that's all Pope sees and he thinks that is the news reporting.

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There's four reports of very prominent UK people dying this way. I'm not going to say their names because it's so outrageous, but it has like 800 comments.

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Yeah, we'll be right back.

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Hey, Matt. So, I mean, before I say anything on that, I'm really sorry to hear about your friend, Mom. I'm.

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I appreciate it. I Assume all of you will be. So. Thank you very much. Now we'll get your. We'll get. Since you're kind, we'll start your 30 seconds now. Go ahead.

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Thanks, man. Hey. So I'm cautiously optimistic. I didn't have any issues with the comments. I don't think Pope was deflecting. I don't think he did anything that struck me as egregious. Character wise. Didn't shift blame. He said. He said, it's not the standard. This isn't acceptable. It's going to get better. Cautiously optimistic. Get it done. I want to see results. We'll see in two months might feel differently. Two months. We don't get it done. But I'll wait and see till then.

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All right, there you go. That's probably the most positive one so far. Let's go to Joe. Go ahead, Joe.

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Mark, it's a beautiful game when you don't have 20 turnovers. Again, Mark, go back to fundamentals. If you had to put blinders on Colin Chandler so he don't look down at the floor when he's dribbling, please do it. If that young man comes back and don't go to Mormon land, he could be an all sec guard. Put bladders on the kids. They don't look down when he's dribbling. Thanks a lot. Goodbye.

[C]

What an amazing. I do want to say, first of all, he's right. He does look down when he dribbles and he does turn it over then. That's actually a really good call. With that said, that block, I wouldn't watch it again. It'll be forgotten to history.

[D]

It will be.

[C]

But that block was insane that he got in the second half.

[D]

Don't know how he got to it.

[C]

How did he get that?

[D]

I don't know.

[E]

That was incredible. It's one of those, I said, you want to have the win so you can reward that. And that can be remembered for a long time.

[C]

I mean, he got so high up and he came from nowhere.

[D]

Other side of the free throw lane. And then Go, go, Gadget arm. Somehow he got up to the ball.

[C]

That's the block that if you were like, I don't know if Colin Chandler has it. He. He's got that. And there ain't many people that got that.

[D]

Nope.

[C]

So, yeah, Will, go ahead. Will. Will. All right. No, Will. 859-280-2287. Steven, go.

[F]

Hey, guys. All right. Regarding JMI, can you please explain how our new football coach can go out and sign one of the elite Quarterbacks in the portal, that's going to cost millions of dollars. Have us in the running for another super elite quarterback in the portal. But our basketball coach can't seem to get anybody who is elite.

[C]

All right, so this is. I'll answer that question. It is a different process for football and basketball. Okay, football we have like 16 million in Rev share or 15 million in Rev share to distribute amongst players. And the football market is such that only a hand of people really demand big money. So you're essentially competing with just a few schools just for a few guys. And it is clear to me at least that the JMI deal allows the football team the resources they need. Basketball's different. Basketball is a handful of guys the top of which demand huge amounts of money and we're at the top of the food chain. Whereas at UK football we're in the middle. It's a different process. Does JMI work for that? We'll see. I'm not ready to say no, but I'm also skeptical. But we'll see. We'll know a lot more in a couple months. But football and basketball are two completely different processes. I am ready to say with some confidence that I think JMI's process for football is actually working pretty well. I am yet to believe that it is for basketball, although I'm open to be proven that it has. But we got to get some players first and then I'll believe it. Scott, go ahead. Scott,

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hey, can you hear me?

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Go for it. 30 seconds.

[F]

Hey, if I'm a coach of a D1 school, I'm not recruiting a point guard that can't go left as well as he can go right. That's just me.

[C]

I kind of agree with you. But I appreciate.

[F]

But Go Cats.

[C]

Appreciate it.

[D]

I mean they're so ambidextrous these days. Right, left, it really doesn't matter.

[C]

I just, that was an odd. He's like we designed the whole offense around a left handed point guard. I just, I didn't really realize basketball was like that. Sometimes you'll hear in the NFL them say that a left handed quarterback you have to change things for. But that makes more sense to me because you're back. Like if you're a lefty, your right tackle is your blind side instead. So I, I get that. I don't really get it with basketball.

[E]

I don't either. And it seems if that was your plan, a good defensive scout would be like, well they go left a lot and they can't go right so let's just stop that.

[C]

Yeah, my 30 seconds.

[F]

Hey, man. All right. Last year, Mark Holt did what I think is just short of miraculous. He took a team with zero players returning, built a roster in a couple weeks, and went to sweet 16. Beat a lot of top 15 teams. You don't do that if you're not a coach. This year, he sucked at roster management. He overreacted to what he. What caused him problems last year? It definitely caused him problems, but once you're in the season, you can't change that. So you have to deal with the bad roster. It was a bad year. I'm definitely on board with a third season to see what he does. Our fans suck.

[C]

Fascinating. So we've done four segments of this. Two yesterday, two today. Three were pretty negative. That one was a little more positive. That guy. That guy might be on Facebook. That's where Pope gets some of his positive info. We'll be right back.

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We have lost Drew to Facebook. Like, now you. Drew has become Mark Pope, and he is going to get all of his news. The one you just showed me, where Mark Pope stormed the set of the View, I just tweeted it and yelled at Whoopi. Goldberg got into it. Whoopi, did you know that happened?

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Really?

[C]

I had no idea, but I thought

[E]

I would have seen that somewhere else.

[C]

I didn't know. I didn't know that that happened. Well, Whoopi, are there people that believe

[E]

that the amount of comments and shares suggest yet Whoopi yelled, unplug his microphone. And Pope said, you can mute my mic, but you can't mute the truth.

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Oh, take that. Whoopee.

[F]

Wow.

[E]

Who has time to create these fake stories all day? Pay for a subscription. Yeah. Who has time for this?

[C]

How? Who is the person that sees that and goes, yeah, that Mark Pope was on the View and confronted Whoopi? I mean, I haven't seen it anywhere else.

[E]

Yeah, it's basically National Enquirer of the

[C]

Internet, but it is on Pope's pup, so it must be true.

[E]

Well, Joy tried to de escalate. And then Anna.

[C]

Oh, Joy tried to do Joy Behar. She tried escalate.

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Navar. I don't know who that is, but she muttered unhinged.

[C]

But Pope didn't flinch.

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She did not flinch.

[C]

She muttered unhinged. You know, wow. The View.

[E]

I'm gonna do a collection of these for KSR later. My favorites.

[D]

So many people Leave it, man.

[E]

No. I'm gonna make it very clear.

[C]

Please don't do this. But they are, like.

[E]

It's gonna be like a lesson.

[C]

The one you showed me that showed Shannon, there's one that's like, AI. That's like Kentucky fans brawling with Florida fans. And it shows an old man in a Kentucky jersey beating up students in the Florida students.

[E]

I see the Mark Pope on the viewing.

[C]

So again, there's Mark Pope on the View. He looks unhinged. To be fair to Anna Navarro.

[F]

Wow.

[E]

Why would they have Mark Pope?

[C]

The thing is, though, like, I can see why, if Mark is only getting his news there, he's like, this is what the news is.

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Yes, people are prudes.

[C]

But I don't know. He's got to know, though. Like, that's not in the Courier Journal, right? Like, he's got to know. That's not.

[E]

It's funny. The Courier Journal. Ryan Black just replied to me. He's like, we have not been reporting on this.

[C]

You have been missing this story.

[F]

Wow.

[C]

We've lost Drew to Facebook forever. All right, real quick, before I go back to the fan thing, Brett Setzer. All right, let's quickly set this up. Brett Setzer, one of the biggest donors to UK athletics. UK football, I think, is his primary donation. I don't know how much he does for basketball, but he is a big. Was, maybe still is a big UK football donor, also donates to some of the secondary sports. He did an interview with Linda Blackford in the Herald, and then Drew was able to obtain a letter that he sent to UK demanding to the president, the board of trustees, and who was the other one? Oh, and the athletic board that they reversed the Barnhart deal. He says many things in the letter, but I think this is the crucial one, and this is the most important. And this is what is my problem with the deal. He is exactly right. There is no deal that the president of the university would do in any realm of the university where he could solo give someone $2 million with no overs. There's no scenario where you are allowed as a president to do that, except he decided to do it right here. And Setzer's point is, there cannot be a world in which a president can unilaterally give away $2 million with no oversight. And essentially, he's asking the board of trustees and the athletic deboard show some oversight and overruled.

[D]

Step up.

[C]

That's what he's saying.

[D]

Yep.

[C]

I think it's completely reasonable. Brett, I think, is completely right about that. There's no other situation where a unit on the way out the door, like it's not even in exchange for services. Yeah, I know he's going to be, you know, instructor to the Initiative to sports, whatever. But he already had that job. You just unilaterally gave him two more years of a deal. And for what? What are we getting back? That's the thing contracts are. You learn this in law school. There has to be consideration. And what is consideration? I give you this, but you give me something back. True. Right.

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Makes sense.

[C]

In this case, we're giving it to Mitch and he's not giving anything back because he had already agreed to do this job for a different amount of money, and we made it longer. And 10 tickets for life, which I had, which I had someone tell me yesterday could if it. Because it includes his kids and grandkids. Right. That could be worth millions.

[E]

I think it ends with when he and his wife have passed. I don't know if that just keeps getting passed down after that.

[C]

Oh, so it's just he and his wife.

[E]

I think regardless, just the price the tickets is out.

[D]

Is he mid-60s, late-60s?

[C]

Okay, so 20, 25 years, 10 tickets. Those values might be what, $20,000 a ticket? Depending on where they are. Do the math.

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Adds up 10. Yep.

[C]

Just for the record, I was told by somebody that would know Joby hall got tickets later in life after he finished. Still had to pay for him. Had to pay for him.

[E]

That is crazy.

[D]

His family got zero.

[C]

Jody hall to get season tickets. Had to pay for them. And Mitch Barnhart gets 10 for life. Free.

[E]

10's outrageous. That is crazy.

[C]

How many family members you got, Shannon? Seriously, like, it's ridiculous.

[E]

I mean, I'm getting him, but not 10.

[C]

And even if you think he believe deserves that, it should be approved. I want the board of trustees and the athletic board. Sign their names to it. If it's. If it's so approved, sign your names to it. You know, say it. What do you say it with your chest? Sign your name to it. So I think Brett Setzer's letter, from what I've seen, seems completely reasonable. And folks, this isn't going to go away. It's not just Matt Jones chirping. You now have Linda Blackford at the Herald Leader. You have now donors. And believe me, there are faculty and all that. Like, this is not going away for uk and they can go every radio show that no one listens to and chirp about. They better. Like, this is not going away.

[E]

And I can tell you, you know, Brett took a big step forward by putting his name out there and letting this be public. But there's a lot of them that haven't written letters yet that are big time on Brett's side. There's a lot of boosters who think this stinks like a lot of the fans do. So him putting out there was, you know, he put. Put his name and face to it, but he's. There's a lot of people in his corner.

[D]

It was going to take somebody with a big time player to step up and get the ball rolling in that like that. And so Brett Setzer stepping up, you know, he's like you said, is he a major player in this?

[E]

I have the letter right in front of me.

[D]

Take notice.

[E]

He said these things should be communicated transparently. This is all ultimately made for the benefit of students. That's the reason the University of Kentucky exists. None of that happened. Shutting down legitimate questions and resorting to name calling falls well below the dignity of any university, especially Kentucky.

[C]

And let me say again, I don't even really all that much blame Mitch, but this is the. Y' all didn't even show up to his press conference. I want you to think about that. Let's say I'm on Mitch's side. He worked there 24 years. It's his retirement press conference, and the president doesn't even come. He doesn't even come. What? And. And then has yet to take a question from the public. Give me a break. That's chicken blank.

[E]

Well, he put out a video. Talking about.

[C]

He put out a video, but. But again, a video without questions.

[E]

No, I mean, he's saying we got to make cuts. Like you just.

[C]

Yeah, we got to make cuts. Here's $2 million to Mitch. And then, and then Mitch didn't help himself by in defending the $2 million, which I guess anyone would do. I want. I'd want $2 million. He calls everybody knuckleheads. There's a good way to. A good way to fix questions is to call people names. That always works.

[E]

And minimize it to two or three people when I can promise you it's a lot more than that.

[C]

So very clearly, you know, good for Brett. Let's. Let's go to. Let's do a couple more of these and then we'll do. Do it in the next segment. Mark, go.

[F]

Is there any hope that the next athletic director will put more emphasis on UK basketball? Mitch Barnhart was probably the most successful athletic director overall, but arguably the least for Kentucky basketball. He won half as Many championships in cm, and he had the same number of Final Fours and twice the time. Is there any hope for us moving forward?

[C]

Appreciate the call. Well, I mean, I think there's hope. I mean, Mitch is going to be here, so regardless of whether that was correct or not, what you said, like, he's gone. So it'll just depend on who's next. Mike, go.

[F]

I got. I just want to say we've had some of the greatest coaches in college basketball at my time, you know, on this earth, as a Kentucky fan, but I'm really worried right now because I think, you know, anybody gets their news from. I wonder where that Leanne Crab come from. He's getting his news from Facebook. When somebody tells me something about UK basketball, my first question, did you get that from Facebook? Leave it alone. You know? I mean, come on, dude. Like, can he even find his way to reparator, or does he have to have help?

[C]

I don't think that's fair, but I don't think that the argument isn't that he believes Facebook. The argument is, though, that he's taking that as the representation of what's out

[D]

there, what's been reported.

[C]

He's taking. I don't think he thinks. I mean, he knows these things aren't true, but the problem is he's taking that as. When he says, this is what fans think. He's taking this.

[E]

No, fans are laughing at this.

[C]

He should be laughing at it now. If Aunt Bertha is not laughing at it, you need to tell Aunt Bertha. Come on.

[D]

There are a lot of Aunt birds out there.

[C]

Let's go. These are. Just because it's a picture doesn't mean it's true. Although, to be fair, Pope did put Whip Whoopi in her place.

[A]

Yeah, he did.

[C]

He did.

[E]

I hate the View, too.

[C]

Whoopi even still on that show.

[E]

Who watches it?

[C]

I didn't. First of all, I didn't know it was still. I know. I always hear Trump yell about it, but I kind of wonder if Trump and Pope are, like, the same, because Trump's always angry about things on Facebook, too.

[E]

You think maybe Pope is on Truth Social?

[C]

I don't know. There's this one person that writes me on the text machine. They're always like, when are you gonna start putting your posts on Blue Sky? And I'm like, never. I don't know. That's the democratic True Social. I'm not. No more apps.

[E]

I tried to thread. I couldn't even thread. I threaded one.

[C]

I want to thread. Here's what I don't like about threads. It's not in chronological order. Why would you have a timeline that's not in chronological order? Because then I look at it and I'm like, oh. And then it's like four days ago.

[E]

Facebook does that.

[C]

I know. It's algorithm Facebook. I'm not on Facebook. Adam, go.

[F]

First time, long time.

[C]

Who are.

[F]

Hey, real quick here. First off, I think it's interesting for me that we have our name calling, petulant child of an athletic director. I'm not going to call Mark Pope any names today, but I do think that's interesting. Mark just needs to get some dudes. I mean, that's the big thing he needs to get. And then second off, Drew, you need to make sure that you're making those workforce initiative AI posts to go right along with those to see what all the cool stuff we're going to get.

[E]

Well, I can't use AI stuff has to be online. And there's no record of this initiative anywhere on the Internet, so it doesn't exist.

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I want to say that I think that Mark Pope was a panic hire by Barnhart. He failed on Hurley, Scott Drew didn't even make the NCAA tournament this year. If Pope keeps his current too much of his current team, we're in trouble going forward. Barnard has six national championships, Four in rifle, one in volleyball, and one in basketball. And a major problem, I think now is Eric Mundy, who's going to be your next president. And he's calling all the shots.

[C]

Appreciate the call. Well, I hear that name a lot from people. I don't know him. We learned his name on this show a few months ago, and I keep hearing him as a fingerprints on a lot of this. We'll. We'll find out. By the way, it was interesting when they announced that Barnhart retired. They said he had six national titles. Rifle was pulling a lot of weight.

[D]

Yeah, it was.

[E]

Well, when I walked into that ceremony, they had them all out on the table, and my brain was like, Mitch has six. Six what? And then it hit me.

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Rifles doing strong work, rifles doing a lot. Chris. Go, Chris.

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Hey, man. First time, long time.

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First.

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I like to offer my condolences for Drew falling into the Facebook of this. It's a shame. He seemed like a nice guy. Hates. Hate to lose him. If you're going to collect for flyers, let me know. I'll. I'll kick in. Now. My comment is, I think it is laughable that people are criticizing this coaching staff. They had injuries they missed on a kid that they thought might be able to play backup point guard. That was probably the plan. But I will tell you,

[E]

man, I

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wanted to hear him, but Shannon is. Shannon Falls rules.

[E]

30 seconds was 30 seconds.

[C]

30 seconds is 30 seconds. When we do this, Johnny. Go, Johnny.

[E]

Get to it.

[F]

Hey, say that Mark Pope is not at fault for the current state of affairs of Kentucky basketball. Mitch Barnhart is at fault. Mark didn't hire himself when he didn't have the resume to do it, Mitch did. And Mitch is the one that needs to wear the egg on his face or the program is.

[C]

Appreciate the call, Ed. Ed,

[F]

I'm glad you mentioned coach Joe B. Hall. Coach Joby Hall's first year following up Adolph ruppy, made the NCAA tournament. Made it to the elite eight his second year. He went a big fat 13 and 13. And you think BBN was. Is unhappy now. You should have seen us back in with Coach Hall. So yeah, I'm all about giving Mark Pope an opportunity.

[C]

Are you mean to tell me. Hang on just a second. Before you hang up on this guy. You mean to tell me that fans got mad at the coach before Matt Jones and KSR existed?

[D]

No.

[C]

I thought we were the ones. I thought we were the ones that caused everyone to get mad and we were the problem. Are you telling me that happened before I was born?

[F]

You better believe it.

[C]

See, you know what? I appreciate the call.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

If I read online I would have thought. I appreciate that. I am the reason fans complain all the time.

[E]

I thought we made up the concept of being disappointed when our favorite team loses.

[C]

I didn't know that. Rats unhinged on the view. Bk. Go bk. They unplugged his.

[F]

Hey Matt. First time, long time.

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Yes, Sir. So I'm a 67 left handed basketball player once removed 20 years ago in high school. But I just realized last night after the Mark Pope interview that it wasn't my fault that I'm not in the league today, sir. It is because Mark Pope was not running. The coach was not running left handed place for me in high school like Mark Hope had the idea.

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Good point.

[C]

It's a good point.

[D]

Great point.

[C]

It is. Appreciate the call. You could have could have been a contender. You're not Mark. Go Mark.

[F]

Coach hall was still fourth place in the SEC in his second year. Who is the real Mark Pope? Last year he overachieves and he says he failed the assignment. This year he underachieves and makes excuses. So which one is it? Thank you.

[C]

It is a true. Last year they did say they failed. It's. It'll be interesting to go back after a year or two and look back at the comments last night from Mark and say was he right that like they were progressing and then you see another jump or was that an example of sort of the standard and what he said he was going to do. Him switching the standard. Be interesting to see. I don't know. I hope it's. I hope what he said is correct and this becomes a building block. Shannon, get ready to read the disclaimer because we're going to do draftkings real quick. Wichita State in Tulsa tonight. Who you got in the nit?

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