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Matt Jones
welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.
Drew Franklin
Welcome back to ksr. This is not Matt Jones. This is Drew Franklin with Ryan Lemon and Nick Roush and Shannon the dude. However, I think we do have Matt Jones. Shannon, am I seeing this correctly on our call screeners?
Matt Jones
He's on there.
Nick Roush
Long time listener, first time caller.
Drew Franklin
Oh, man. Where are you calling us from?
Caller Matt
I'm about to leave D.C. and I. Before I, Before I left, I had to take a second to talk about
Ryan Lemon
yesterday or, excuse me, Sunday in that game.
Caller Matt
Because, Drew, I know you appreciate this.
Ryan Lemon
Probably all you guys do.
Caller Matt
Watching that game and watching Duke lose in person has to be one of
Ryan Lemon
my three or four best sporting memories on Kentucky of my life.
Caller Matt
Maybe. Honestly, number one, it was absolutely joyous being in that building, watching the Duke hearts break. And before it kind of gets out of my mind while it's still there, I had to call and share it because I have never, in a non
Ryan Lemon
Kentucky sporting event jumped higher than I did on Sunday.
Drew Franklin
We've all seen the many reactions in every angle you can possibly watch was the arena. I mean, the just change.
Caller Matt
It was amazing. It was amazing. I mean, both games, like on Friday night, the Duke St. John's game was. Had an awesome crowd and a lot of tension. You know, the Duke Yukon game, probably for about 30 minutes. The first 30 minutes was just kind of. Because Duke had a big lead the whole time. But in those last seven or eight minutes, you could kind of sense that UConn had a chance to come back.
Drew Franklin
I.
Caller Matt
It was electric and it was probably, you know, half duke fans, half UConn fans.
Ryan Lemon
So it would go back and forth
Caller Matt
and back and forth and just as a neutral party to sit there and be in that. And then when they get that steal, like I, I was on press row and I stood up. I couldn't.
Ryan Lemon
I didn't.
Caller Matt
I couldn't even make myself stay down. And I, I jumped and I don't think that's allowed. I don't think they're. They were, you know, But I wasn't the only one. I mean, I watched. I. An eagle jumped from broadcasting the game. It was. It was absolutely electric. And then looking around and seeing UConn people losing their minds and Duke people crying. I'm amazed they didn't get more shots
Ryan Lemon
on TV of the.
Caller Matt
Of like tears.
Ryan Lemon
And the sadness was just absolutely wild.
Drew Franklin
We're not big Yukon fans around here, but it was weird cheering for them. Did you kind of have that same feeling?
Caller Matt
I couldn't help it. I could. I mean, how I Couldn't help it. Like, I hate UConn, but it was. It was awesome. And then I think, because it was so unexpected, like, you know how in big sporting moments now everybody has their phone out? But that really didn't happen because I don't think people expected that play to occur like it did. So it was. Everybody's kind of wrapped in the moment, and then when it was over, the. The security. I don't know if they just. If everybody broke. Contain or what, but there were just people on the court everywhere. And Bill Murray is out there. He's dancing with the Connecticut band, and it was. It was just electric. But this was kind of what was awkward but also fun. Well, not fun. It was just awkward. So everyone is with the UConn people on the floor, and Duke then has to go into their press conference. So their press conference is kind of back and kind of hard to find. And when I get back there, there's Cameron Boozer and John Shire.
Ryan Lemon
And you may have seen.
Caller Matt
I took a picture. Boozer's eyes swelling. Shire is sitting there, and there's only. I mean, Drew, you, Ryan, you guys have been to those press conferences. There's normally at the NCAA tournament, what, 60, 70, 80 people, something like that at those press conferences.
Nick Roush
Yep.
Caller Matt
There were maybe six people in the room because everybody was out on the court with UConn. So I walk in, and it's like everybody's almost expecting you to ask a question because no one's there. And, of course, it's also sort of sad. And Boozer's cr. And everyone's just looking around going, who's gonna ask a question? And no one asked a question. And it was like being in the most awkward group therapy session, but with no one wanting to speak. It was so uncomfortable. I took that picture and just had to leave. It was like. It was really uncomfortable.
Drew Franklin
Also, like, the ESPN asked for permission to use your photo. You tweeted that screenshot yesterday. Yeah, I like social media intern.
Ryan Lemon
Yeah, well, they. Of course, no one knows I work there, including. I mean, I don't know if the bosses do much less the social media.
Caller Matt
So I did. Like, they asked me for permission. I mean, that picture, I realized as
Ryan Lemon
soon as I'd taken it, that was a pretty amazing picture with his eye swelling up like that.
Caller Matt
And then as I walked out of the press conference, you know, the Duke locker room was right there, and you could hear dudes bawling outside the locker room. And, you know, the only time I can remember something like that was 2010 when. When. When. When Kentucky lost that locker room was
Ryan Lemon
kind of like that.
Caller Matt
But this was just. I guess it was because it was so sudden. And, you know, the ad. The ad of Duke, this woman and John Shire, they're hugging and kind of like trying to console each other. It was. It was both the height of elation
Ryan Lemon
and, like, the worst sadness you can see right next to each other.
Drew Franklin
Any other stories from rubbing elbows with the Zagorias and the Goodmans and the Norlanders of the world? I mean, you were with.
Caller Matt
Well, so the night before.
Caller Monty
Yeah.
Caller Matt
I mean, those people, you know, for so long have hated us, but the national media, a lot of them, not
Ryan Lemon
necessarily those guys you mentioned, but just
Caller Matt
a bunch of people got together and
Ryan Lemon
watched the Saturday night games.
Caller Matt
And it was fascinating to hear, you know, to hear them talk about who's going where, what coaches were good dudes, what coaches weren't. You know, Ron, you would have liked what random coaches, you know, might have mistresses like you, like, learned everything.
Nick Roush
Go on.
Shannon the Dude
Goodness.
Matt Jones
I would like to have been there.
Nick Roush
Yeah.
Caller Matt
I mean.
Matt Jones
Hey. Hey, Matt. Going back to the game for just a minute, you probably didn't see it in the moment, but what. What did you think about Danny Hurley essentially headbutting the referee?
Ryan Lemon
Oh, yeah. See, I didn't see that in the moment.
Caller Matt
How crazy I am. That is.
Ryan Lemon
That is nuts. I don't know.
Caller Matt
I guess he was angry at him, but that was so weird. And I loved.
Ryan Lemon
My favorite moment of the entire thing is the Duke announcer asking for a technical.
Caller Matt
Like, is there anything more. Is there anything more Duke, than after that moment, him getting the announcer asking
Ryan Lemon
for a technical for a guy running on the floor?
Caller Matt
I mean, I thought that was one of the. That might have been the.
Ryan Lemon
Funny.
Caller Matt
That's the most Duke thing that could possibly happen. And it also confirmed. You remember there was a story earlier in the week, Drew, that said, is Duke still hateable?
Drew Franklin
Oh, yeah.
Caller Matt
The answer is, of course, yes. I mean, America celebrates when Duke loses more than anything else. I don't think there's anything else in sports that people universally celebrate more than Duke losing. And you could feel that on Sunday.
Nick Roush
That's why I was kind of proud of you, you know, that they jumped out such a big lead. You didn't leave.
Drew Franklin
You stayed.
Nick Roush
Got to witness one of the greatest finishes ever.
Ryan Lemon
I stayed because I wasn't, like, personally invested in it.
Caller Matt
And also, you know, it was. It was so Stanford. Steve, that Scott Van Pelt guy.
Ryan Lemon
You guys know who that is?
Shannon the Dude
Huge dud Dookie.
Caller with story about state championship
His.
Caller Matt
He is A huge dookie, and his seats were next to mine for most of the time. He went down on the floor for the last few minutes, so I. I wasn't with him when the shot went in, but I sat next to him
Ryan Lemon
in the other games and just getting
Caller Matt
to know him and listening to him.
Ryan Lemon
He is an awesome dude. Like, he's.
Caller Matt
You know, a lot of times you
Ryan Lemon
meet these people and they're not as nice as you hope they are.
Caller Monty
He.
Ryan Lemon
He's an awesome dude and listen to him tell stories and stuff.
Caller Matt
So that was great.
Ryan Lemon
But, yeah, he.
Caller Matt
He was.
Ryan Lemon
He is a big dookie, and I know he wasn't. He wasn't the happiest at the end.
Shannon the Dude
I keep refreshing their podcast because I want to hear his pain and his voice. Like, I want all of the Duke pain. That was just. Oh, it was incredible. Is you're up closer than normal for these games? Do you. Is Hurley a psycho all the time? Like, do you see the cameras show it?
Caller Matt
I went. And so my seats weren't great for
Ryan Lemon
the media parts, but when the Duke
Caller Matt
St. John's game ended, I was. I went and just kind of sat
Ryan Lemon
behind the UConn bench, just in a regular seat.
Caller Matt
And he's. He's a psychopath. You know, for three years, I was in the student section at Duke for Krzyzewski, and he was a psychopath. And Cal. You know, for all the thing about Cal yelling, Krzyzewski yelled a lot more than California, but. But Danny Hurley yells more than all of them.
Ryan Lemon
And Danny, I'm amazed he doesn't get technicals all the time.
Caller Matt
But they also. The referees seem to laugh when he yells, too. So I don't know why that works, but he is a psychopath. But I will also say, when you sit up close, especially the duke Yukon game, St. John's maybe not quite so
Ryan Lemon
much, but especially the Duke Yukon game,
Caller Matt
you could see kind of how far
Ryan Lemon
we were away from actually really being good.
Caller Matt
Like, the stuff UConn runs is crazy. Like, they run so much offense. I mean, Duke, to some extent, they
Ryan Lemon
just kind of overpower. Like, Cameron Boozer just sort of backs people in.
Caller Matt
But UConn runs so many sets and so much motion. And, you know, if you. If you miss one cut, they score or get an open look. You get a sense of how much
Ryan Lemon
better those teams kind of were than
Caller Matt
us this year, and you can really
Ryan Lemon
see that when you're up close.
Drew Franklin
We hope you enjoy the rest of your trip. We're doing our best here. I'm trying to Keep Ryan reeled in as best I can. I'm trying. Trying. We're having a great time with Nick Roush here. Can you reveal what you're doing next, or are you just on a. Taking some time away?
Ryan Lemon
I'm actually just kind of using it as a chance to recharge.
Caller Matt
But I. And I wasn't gonna call in, but like I did there was. I can feel it kind of.
Ryan Lemon
I don't know, the.
Caller Matt
The, you know, it's not in the moment anymore.
Ryan Lemon
And I just definitely wanted to share.
Caller Matt
I. I sit there and think of, like, the top sporting moments where I was in the arena and the 2008 Ryder cup is. Is right there, but this one is right there with it. I mean, part of the problem, Ryan, is a lot of Kentucky's great moments.
Ryan Lemon
I've been outside of the arena because I've been.
Nick Roush
You didn't get to witness it, but you talked about one on one soccer match. You were at the. On your trip where like, they. The home team won a big game or something. Maybe talk about that with how that awesome that was.
Ryan Lemon
Yeah.
Caller Matt
At the Euros, I went to a couple soccer games that were like, you
Ryan Lemon
know, I've been in the Tour de
Caller Matt
France, the Masters, but I don't think anything has ever produced that spontaneous moment of surprise like that. Because it went. You know, it's kind of what happened with the Santa Clara game, where it just. It happened so quick and you didn't really have a chance to process it, that it made it almost even crazier in the moment.
Ryan Lemon
Except in this case, it was to win the game and to go to the Final Four. So.
Caller Matt
Yeah, it was.
Ryan Lemon
It was. It was awesome.
Caller Matt
And thank you guys, and thank you
Ryan Lemon
all for filling in. I just wanted to check in.
Drew Franklin
All right. Enjoy the rest of your week off. I appreciate the call.
Ryan Lemon
All right.
Caller Matt
See you up.
Nick Roush
Just appreciated Matt's go waiting for that moment.
Shannon the Dude
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Felt pretty good to appreciate the call. Good to hear from Matt, though. What's crazy, they're going to be playing that replay forever, and he will have been there for it.
Nick Roush
I'm a little jealous, to be honest, that he was there. First of all, I thought that, you know, the. The Friday night games were awesome.
Drew Franklin
Oh, yeah.
Nick Roush
Then he comes back for the Sunday game.
Drew Franklin
Almost got him, Rick.
Nick Roush
Almost got him.
Drew Franklin
I have that game.
Shannon the Dude
I cannot. I still don't even know how they came back. I still don't. The best part of the, like, there's. There's so many layers of the onion to peel back from Duke's Loss. We just keep getting new ones. The fact that Duke had a video three weeks ago.
Nick Roush
Yeah.
Shannon the Dude
On their social media channels of John Shire coaching up the exact same end of game situation and they couldn't execute. I mean, all they had to do was just sit there and hold the ball or, I don't know, call a timeout. Literally do anything except turn it over. And I, I just, I just couldn't stop laughing. I mean, it just. I felt like Jeff Pocoro after he sees a big Kentucky touchdown where you just kind of got a giggle. I was cackling after Duke got taken down in dramatic fashion.
Drew Franklin
Before we take our next break, Shannon, I looked up and I saw our guy Brett has just been on hold forever. I cannot leave Brett on hold any longer. At this point. It's on me. So, Brett, what's up?
Caller Monty
I just had a few questions. I'm always was a football dude until the mid-80s. I hope will Stein gets us going. I'm grateful for Stoops getting us to be noticed and stuff, but I think Stein's going to take us to the next level. But I had a basketball question too. I can't understand how Jalen Claimants is going to be picked in the top 10 when he only played two games and his knees still swelling. And it's obvious that he would have made a difference in our season if he'd have been on the floor. And I was just wondering, maybe Mo Williams, maybe that's why I brought him in too, to try and talk this guy into coming back. Because his money value would do nothing but go up if his knee heals up. And I don't see why they don't bring Rondo in. Because they said when he was in the NBA that he was perfect, that he would make a hell of a coach someday. And on his X and O's, because if you notice some of the plays that we ran, it didn't seem like we had any plays. He just threw the ball and said, go at it. So I. I think it would make a big advantage. And so what? He got busted for marijuana. Totally acceptable nowadays anyway, and that's all.
Drew Franklin
Thanks for hanging on so long. And I don't know, were we good there? Shannon? Was there.
Matt Jones
No, we're good. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Okay. I thought I heard a word. It was kind of muffled there on the Rondo thing. Sure. We'd all love him. We also have to remember Rondo made $100 million in his career. And some people might not want to go work.
Shannon the Dude
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
I can't speak for Rondo. But if I had 100 million, I love Kentucky basketball. I would be sitting front row watching,
Nick Roush
watching my kid play, not behind.
Shannon the Dude
Being a coach is a terrible lifestyle. It's not. This is not fun what they're doing. It's 365 days a year. You don't get any days off it. They would be miserable. So I would not be jump chomping at the bit to do it. I would also say too Gene Quaint isn't on any mock drafts that I'm seeing.
Drew Franklin
He's slipping. He's still first round but he's not projected lottery as he was. I mean what a terrible year for him to do this because this class is loaded. The top 10 ain't changing. But he'll still be a top 20, 25ish pick.
Shannon the Dude
I worried about him. CBS didn't have him in the first round and ESPN doesn't have him.
Nick Roush
I worry about him because all these teams will do their physical checks and if that knee is still not healthy or if he did re injure it this season, it's just going to drop him even farther.
Drew Franklin
Oh, he's going the wrong way. But a proven team like I'll just say the Thunder, someone will take a gamble on a guy who could just come in and be an elite shot block or something like that. But there's no doubt he's he's sliding. Based on how this year went, I
Shannon the Dude
mean he would definitely get taken in the second round because those picks don't mean anything. You can hit a potential top 10 guy. It'd be a good year to be drafting in the NBA. A lot of good players out there.
Drew Franklin
Yep. We're taking another break. It's good hearing from Matt Jones and D.C. about the game and our guy Brett there. Sorry, am I crazy? I thought I heard something on that.
Shannon the Dude
I thought I heard something.
Drew Franklin
Okay, just making sure I'm not losing.
Shannon the Dude
My phone broke up so I was like to be. To be.
Nick Roush
I thought Shannon dumped it.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I think his phone dumped dumped it for us. So we're all good there. We'll be right back after this break.
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Drew Franklin
to Kentucky Sports Radio. Drew Franklin here with Ryan Lemon, Nick Roush and Shannon the Dude. You know the final four is coming up and so is prime time for your skin. You didn't think I was going that route, did you Nick?
Shannon the Dude
No, you got me. I've been moisturizing though.
Drew Franklin
I got some on. Got a little vitamin C serum on too. Wear your sunscreen. Got to take care of your face.
Shannon the Dude
You gotta. You gotta wear the hats too. I wore the hat while doing some yard work over the weekend. It wasn't a big enough hat. We need a bigger hat because you gotta take care of your skin, Drew.
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That's right. Tailgating patio sunshine before tip off out in your yard with your hat. It all adds up. And skin care. Skin cancer is the most common cancer in America and also one of the most preventable. At Kentucky Skin Cancer center they offer full body skin checks and treatment for all types of skin cancer right here in your community. Don't wait for a timeout to check to take care of yourself. Schedule your screening today@kentuckyskincancercenter.com I highly recommend the Kentucky Skin Cancer Center. We went to the one where were we was that Owensboro Bowling Green got the facial treatment.
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It was wonderful.
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In Powderlea, Glasgow Franklin, Owensboro. Call 270842,1999 or visit KentuckySkincancerCenter. Because the best win of the season is catching it early. We heard from Matt in that segment. Also we had a. I think maybe a submission from social media.
Shannon the Dude
Is this the A vision Twitter Hollow
Drew Franklin
yeah, well it's the at. It's the at. Vince Merrow Twitter or The coat. What's his.
Nick Roush
I've heard of him. Coach Merrow at CoachMerrow. Surely.
Shannon the Dude
Grown man.
Drew Franklin
Surely. He was. He tweeted. It's been 30. 30 minutes now, but when we were talking about Vince Merrow, he tweeted lol. Fake news. Hey, buddy, we're not done yet. The next one is going to have you turning your heads. Go carts. It's probably not about us, but you know Nick, he did hit you with the. Hello, Nick Roush, so.
Nick Roush
Hello, Nick Roush.
Drew Franklin
It could be a shot this way. It could be.
Shannon the Dude
Let's. Let's be real.
Drew Franklin
You think the dog's listening?
Shannon the Dude
Yeah. Yeah. It's okay. Hey, Vince. I hope it's going well. Good job. Yeah, you got him now, but it's a long way to go till Sunday.
Nick Roush
His tweet to you from the sideline during the Louisville Kentucky game.
Shannon the Dude
It was. I was in that Wolf press box. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe. But I could, though. Like, I knew it was going to come at some point, but I just didn't know during the game, from the sideline. That was only one of the. Like, he's. He fired off multiple. But you know what, Nick Gross? If you get the win, you deserve to take the victory lap. So you can take the victory lap for now. But that's what. Like, I don't think people outside of here understand how intense this rivalry is going to get. You have two coaches who were quarterbacks at the same high school that both went and played at U of L. There are coaches from UK and UofL on both stats.
Nick Roush
That's right. They got to switch.
Drew Franklin
The recruiting coordinator just kind of switched.
Ryan Lemon
Yeah.
Shannon the Dude
Chase Hickey and Pete Nocta just changed jobs.
Drew Franklin
Do you think they. They're about the same size. Do you think they were just like, here's my UK Polos. Give me your level. Follows. They did that.
Shannon the Dude
Yeah. It's like a jersey swap after a basketball game. But. But like, that is going to make it ultra competitive. There's a lot of really talented players in this upcoming class. And to be frank, Louisville has more of them right now. Right. With Brown. I know. Orion Westmoreland. That was a kid. I mean, recruiting sites had articles written of him committing to Louisville and he flipped to Kentucky. So that. That was a good one for the. A nice little notch in the belt for the Cats, but there's still some other big ones out there. There's a wide receiver from Northern Kentucky who is committed to play baseball at Louisville. Like, he committed to play Baseball, Louisville when he was not even in high school yet. Kentucky's recruiting for football. He's a good player, so. But it's going to be very intense between these two programs away from the field. And then when he gets on the field, it's going to be fun. How many close Kentucky, Louisville football games can you remember?
Drew Franklin
They've been pretty lopsided here lately.
Shannon the Dude
It was the time that Lamar fumbled. Did you remember that?
Drew Franklin
Did you see him do the Heisman?
Nick Roush
I mean, Lamar fumble.
Shannon the Dude
Yeah, he did the. Hasn't he fumble. That was a close game in Louisville loss. There was one close game with Charlie and Joker and it was the worst football game ever played. It was like watching the ufl. There was fumbles all over the place. Kentucky won that one and then Stevie got loose. But most of them have been pretty lopsided. I think we're going to get a highly contentious battle. This would be a year it'd be fun to have the Governor's cup first of the year just from a like, yes, crap talking like the juice would be so high. But you know what? We don't need that. We can save it to the end of the year. We can wreck the card seasons and then have that juice flowing for that Alabama game in week two, which I got to say, just prepare for a lot of people to predict that upset this summer.
Drew Franklin
Okay, Is that a Trendy pick with DeBoer going the wrong direction?
Shannon the Dude
He is bad in his first kind of big games. We saw what they did to Gus Malzahn in Florida State last year. A terrible Florida State team. And then the year prior they laid an egg on their first time away from Alabama. So you get this big stage, you got a fun offense. It's a. It's the time that. That can really get people saying, we've been telling you Will, style is the next big thing and just beat Alabama. You know, like instead of having McDonough making fun of Kentucky for not being able to get a playoff before halftime.
Drew Franklin
That was fun.
Shannon the Dude
They will be talking about how high powered this offense is. Is it going to be enough to do it? I'm. I'm going to predict it because why the hell not, right? Like Cats are going to beat the Crimson Tide in week two. We're going to be storming the field. It's going to be outstanding. I can't wait for it. Just go ahead, make sure you're there for that week two game. And hell, why not week one two. Youngstown say, watch the Cats put up
Drew Franklin
50 points, feed the studs let's go to Monty real quick before our next break. Shannon.
Caller Monty
All right.
Matt Jones
Hey, Monty.
Drew Franklin
Hi, Monty. What's up?
Caller Monty
Hey.
Caller with story about state championship
Hey. First time, long time.
Caller Matt
Wow.
Caller with story about state championship
I got kind of a fun, unique story about the Duke Kentucky game back in the day, kind of on the heels of Matt. So the time that. That. That game was going on, I was playing for a state championship at Freedom Hall. It's the exact same time of the game. We were playing University Heights, so. So while we're playing that game, we don't have any idea what's going on. And crowds going nuts when nothing's happening. And. And then. So the first time I ever actually got to watch that game was with Sean Woods. He took me. We sat down at his house, and I got to watch it on video with him. And that was the first experience I had seeing that game.
Drew Franklin
Oh, what an amazing memory. Sorry I put you up against the heartbreak there, but it's good to hear from you. We'll be right back.
Shannon the Dude
TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call tj. He'll make him pay.
Matt Jones
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by ST Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.
Drew Franklin
I'm not Matt Jones. I am Drew Franklin, filling in for Matt on KSR with Ryan Lemon, Nick Roush, and Shannon the Dude. Guys, I'm in trouble. I messed up a little bit. That was my guy, Monty. I know Monty, and I set him up for failure. The hard break was too close for nobody. I knew when I went to him. We're cutting this a little close. Maybe it's just a question. He had a story, had to cut him off.
Matt Jones
It never fails. Anytime you give somebody like, 30 seconds, they're the person on hold who's got the longest story.
Drew Franklin
Well, and it was going to be a good story. I love Monty. Used to work with Monty.
Nick Roush
I've heard a lot of people talk about that state championship game at Freedom hall while Duke was playing Kentucky in the NCAA tournament in 92. And the more it went on, people would leave their seats during the state championship game, go up to the concourse and watch the game that was on the concourse TVs, and they would scream and yell. At one point, the referees and the players on the court stopped and looked up because they couldn't know what. They didn't know what was going on. They didn't have any idea what was happening at that time.
Drew Franklin
It's wild. I got to send him a little note or something.
Nick Roush
Tell him to call back.
Drew Franklin
I feel bad.
Nick Roush
Call back.
Drew Franklin
I'm sorry about that. I set you up for failure. Clark's Pump shop phone line 859-280-2287. Let's go to John real quick. Knock that out. So don't make him wait and do that again.
Matt Jones
What's up, John?
Caller Monty
Hey guys. What's up? What's happening?
Drew Franklin
We're just hosting a radio show. What's up?
Ryan Lemon
So listen, I know news kind of
Caller Monty
broke out that Florida's 7 foot 9
Drew Franklin
center is entering the transfer portal.
Caller Matt
What do you think about any chances
Caller Monty
Kentucky might get him?
Shannon the Dude
I think that would be a terrible idea. John. Have you watched him play basketball?
Drew Franklin
He doesn't really move well.
Shannon the Dude
If he was good enough, he would have played.
Drew Franklin
I mean he's, he's a sight to see.
Shannon the Dude
Yeah, if he was good, he would have played. I mean Florida, they, they were a good team. If he was good enough, he, he would have played.
Rob Gronkowski
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Appreciate the call. No, it's. When he was at rup, I made a point. When they're at warm ups, I went and stood as close. I mean I didn't walk out on the court and you know, go back to back with him, but I wanted to get as close as I possibly could. It is unbelievable how tall that guy is.
Nick Roush
It's amazing whether it was the VCU or someone who. They were playing the NCAA tournament and a six eight guy was standing next to him and look like me standing next to him.
Drew Franklin
Crazy. But, but he just doesn't, he doesn't get around well.
Shannon the Dude
And you know what? No, that's fine. He can go play a smaller school and be good there.
Nick Roush
True.
Shannon the Dude
Yeah. Like the. You remember Kenny George? He was at UC Irvine. I want to say there's also another guy for UNC Asheville. There was a big guy that might have been Kenny George. I don't know. You get all the Giants mixed up. But yeah, he can go somewhere else.
Nick Roush
Taco was it. What?
Shannon the Dude
Taco was at ucla. Man, that would have been it. I, that would have been an all time Duke loss because Taco Fall almost beat Zion. That was a second round back in 2018. But hey, you know what it's going to be, it's going to be hard to top the Duke. Also on Sunday, that was Chef's Kiss.
Drew Franklin
Taco played in the celebrity game this year. I feel like that's unfair. I mean like Kevin Hart plays in that game. I can't have Taco Fall out there. That's where he is in his journey. Now I mentioned earlier I want to talk a little tv.
Nick Roush
Yes, you did.
Drew Franklin
Got a few TV things going on. A. If you have you anybody on Neighbors? We keep deciding the homework.
Nick Roush
I started it yet? I'm going to watch.
Matt Jones
I'm on episode one where they're.
Drew Franklin
What do you think, Shannon?
Matt Jones
Yeah, it's crazy. They're going back and forth between the neighbors that are out kind of in the desert and then the. The fighting over the beachfront property. I like it. I'm hooked. So I'm in.
Drew Franklin
So good.
Matt Jones
Rest of them.
Drew Franklin
So many people warned me about episode six, though. We even warned people on this show. I hadn't seen it yet. I kept putting it off. I watched a couple nights ago. You can't warn people enough for episode six.
Nick Roush
Are you kidding me?
Drew Franklin
There's more minutes with nudity than minutes without nudity. It's at a. It's at a nudist colony. So it's just. That's just the episode.
Nick Roush
Wow.
Shannon the Dude
That's right up Ron's alley.
Drew Franklin
Brace yourself. I could see Ryan living there.
Matt Jones
Like, what's possibly going wrong there?
Drew Franklin
I'm just. I'm just warning you all. Episode one through five. Great. Episode six. I don't know. It's on you. You've been told. If you want to watch it, it's entertaining.
Nick Roush
There's just a lot warnings out there.
Drew Franklin
There's a lot happening. There's a little happening. There's a lot of happening. There's a lot going on. But last night, I watched paradise season finale. Are you all paradise people? That's the one where the President likes Kentucky basketball.
Shannon the Dude
I like the people in Paradise. We don't have the Hulu at our house, though, so that's why we have not seen the Paradise.
Drew Franklin
Well, I'm going to be very careful not to spoil it because nobody likes that person.
Shannon the Dude
I like that guy, though. He was in this Is Us.
Drew Franklin
Oh, yeah. I can't think of his name, but he's one of the main people.
Shannon the Dude
Yeah, yeah, he's good.
Drew Franklin
But I just need anyone that's on the same wavelength with me. The way the show wrapped up, I feel like they wrote it for me in ksr. There's just a. There's just a big. There's a thing. There's a crossover. We already collided with Kentucky basketball last season.
Nick Roush
Yes.
Drew Franklin
A couple weeks ago he's doing the big speech about empires and dynasties falling. And then he says, but don't get me started on Kentucky basketball. I thought they were done poking me. But no, the finale last night, they had one last big poke. I've got to be careful not to give anything out for my fellow paradise fans. It just came out yesterday. But the major KSR crossover on that show, and I love that show, Nick, one show that you're losing. Tvg. My other TV topic, big news in the horse racing community.
Shannon the Dude
Yeah, yeah.
Drew Franklin
What's going on?
Shannon the Dude
So the sport of horse racing, it's in a very transitional period and it's very healthy on big race days. And it's very healthy if you have lots of money. It's not very healthy for the average Joes like me, the guys who like to just show up, you know, make $10 bets. Right. Pop on the TVG. Other Gulf Stream. Andy being cone like says this 12 to one's looking good at sharpen peg. I'll put two across on it. And hot damn, it came in a second. We're winning some money. Right? Like the casual fan experience has, has not been great. Particularly the caws. Don't get me started on caws. Computer assisted at wagering.
Drew Franklin
It's.
Shannon the Dude
It's the worst. They're, they're taking money out of our hands.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, we don't want to confuse Ryan on that.
Shannon the Dude
Yeah, yeah, it's. It's the worst. But what, what's happened? TVG has been around since 99 actually started in Louisville. They tested it for a few years and they're like, oh, this is working. We're gonna give it to everybody. And it's been in business ever since then. They show all of the races all the time at horse racing's network. FanDuel took it over a couple years ago. They started sprinkling in some K. Adams, a little bit of Boogie Cousins and Michelle Beetle. And on Friday they said, we're done sprinkling. We're done with horse racing. FanDuel TV we are pulling the plug on TVG. They will be at the Triple Crown events this year. They're still going to be at Keeneland. But once this year's Triple Crown and Breeders cup is all over with, they're taking the hose out and then it will go black next year. More than 100 people are losing their jobs. It sucks for those people, but it mostly sucks for a very specific demographic. It's my dad demo, right? Like there, there are people on the message board who are like, I'm gonna have to break this news to my father in law who watches TBG every day and has no idea. Yeah, because you just, it's. You go to the bar, it's on the TV at the corner.
Drew Franklin
Like, oh, 3 o' clock at a bar. Someone, if it's not already on, you're getting. Can you turn that to tvg?
Shannon the Dude
Yeah. Why not play a couple races at Oakland? Right? Like, it's fun. And to take that away, it's.
Caller Monty
It. It.
Shannon the Dude
It's awful. It's awful for the sport of horse racing, for the terrible. You're removing this gateway to it. Now, I will be somewhat optimistic that Fox owns a lot of rights to, like, nara, so they get all the Saratogas. They do Churchill Downs meet. They also did the Arkansas Derby last Saturday. So Fox, like, they're playing motorcycle racing on FS2. They could just take some rights to some of these other tracks, like they get about Keeneland, and they could make essentially a new version of tvg, which will probably happen, but it just. It's one thing to casually flip on and watch. It's another thing to have to seek it out. And so, like, what. How does that affect the overall betting handle? Like, it's. It's bad. It sucks for the sport. And I. I love it. Horse racing is my. You know, obviously my first passion is Kentucky football, but it's what dub horse racing. I get to just have fun. I get to go.
Drew Franklin
You're wearing a derby hat right now.
Shannon the Dude
Oh, yeah. Derby. We're shopping for derby tires. Reason my Super Bowl. Part of the reason we bought the house in the neighborhood. We do is so I can walk to Churchill Downs on the first Saturday in May.
Nick Roush
Okay.
Shannon the Dude
I love it. It is so much fun to just have the program out with a whole day of races ahead of you. It's so exciting. You don't have to be a high roller to enjoy it, but the way that this sport is trending, they're making it to where you have to be a high roller. And that sucks. Like, that's. That's not a good business model to just abandon irregular fans. And this is another step in it with FanDuel pulling the plug on TVG after 27 years. Gut punch.
Drew Franklin
Big news around Kentucky to the horse racing community.
Nick Roush
What are they going to watch at Thoroughbred Cafe down on Leavestown Road?
Drew Franklin
Thoroughbred, man, we need to go there soon.
Nick Roush
I know, but it was on 24 hours a day, all day long, every day.
Shannon the Dude
Nick's the most fun.
Drew Franklin
Likes being able to walk to Churchill Downs. I miss walking to Thoroughbred every day.
Shannon the Dude
I always enjoyed in my younger days coming home from the. The watering holes about 1am and then just randomly picking a Japanese horse to win a race. Oh, my God. You get the whole crew on it. Like, it's so much fun. You no idea what you're doing, but it's like, hell, yeah. Let's watch a horse race.
Drew Franklin
I bet a pick six one time, I think I had one eye open when I was putting the bed in. You know, squinting, making sure it comes down to the last race. I am not making this up. Every horse was wearing the same silk. I didn't know which was mine. And that wasn't because it was late. Like the Japanese horse racing. They're all just wearing a black silk, no numbers. I was like, what is going on? I don't even know which horse is mine. But I loved it. And we're going to miss that with tv.
Shannon the Dude
We are. We are. Keeneland opening Friday, coming up.
Drew Franklin
Heck, yeah.
Shannon the Dude
That's a new paddock. Looks pretty, pretty nice. I know. You know, people get weird by change, but like this one Churchill Dance. When they make changes, they're like, what's the biggest thing we could put in here? Keeneland this. If it fits the aesthetic. Yeah, yeah. Which. Here's another thing. Go Keeneland tip. Big Keeneland days. Not as fun as just the random Wednesday when it's cloudy.
Drew Franklin
Oh, that's the time to go.
Shannon the Dude
Oh, yeah.
Drew Franklin
I like a good walk wherever you go. Early Sunday.
Shannon the Dude
Oh, yeah, that's a nice day. But like, the Saturdays, it gets.
Drew Franklin
It's a lot.
Shannon the Dude
Yeah. I mean, you know the time and place for everything. But I'm. I like to. I like to. Yeah. I've got to go to Lexington for football on Thursday. Might be a little late getting back.
Drew Franklin
I got a flat tire out there on Versailles Road. I'll be there in about six hours.
Shannon the Dude
Yeah. Enough time to watch three races.
Drew Franklin
Few more TV movie things. Ryan, our guy Steve's on just put out a movie.
Nick Roush
You were telling me about this. I didn't know that.
Drew Franklin
I tried to go. He had a big two night premiere over here at the.
Shannon the Dude
The theater.
Drew Franklin
It's called she Dances. He made it with his daughter.
Rob Gronkowski
Nice.
Drew Franklin
So that's a big thing going around in this community right now. We're rooting for Steve. Hope that goes well. You know, I'm getting pretty close to my girl dad era, so that's one I have on my radar. But also wanted to let everybody else know that Steve's got a big project out there that they should go check out.
Nick Roush
So is he in it or is he directing?
Drew Franklin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nick Roush
So he's in it with his daughter?
Drew Franklin
Yep. He wrote it. And she's, I guess, getting into her act. I don't know her career, but she's young and. And they did that together, so that's Cool. And then I also have a confession.
Nick Roush
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
And my wife was like, are you sure you want to say this in the airwaves? But.
Nick Roush
Oh, boy, Babby's warning. You must be good.
Drew Franklin
Well, my favorite person to make fun of is me. I do it all the time. Love making fun of myself. And I've been doing something lately that I feel like needs to get roasted. And I just can't keep that secret inside.
Nick Roush
So you're having a little therapy session here right now?
Drew Franklin
Yeah. I just need you all to know that I'm doing this and I want all your arrows in my direction because I designed these shot with these arrows. So I mentioned I love me some paradise.
Nick Roush
Yes.
Drew Franklin
Finished that last night. Can't recommend enough. Same with neighbors. But there's a show I've been watching every night. I binge four seasons already, and I started season five last night, and I'm hooked. And you all, if I gave you a thousand guesses, you wouldn't get it. But I'm here to tell you all, ksr, I watch the Joy of Painting with Bob Ross religiously.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
You know, but I mean, I sit down and, like, knock out six episodes in a situation sitting. It is. And to be honest, I think he's painted the same picture every episode, but it is. It is kind of like my Zen. He just got this. That tone.
Nick Roush
Yes.
Drew Franklin
And the happy, peaceful. Guys, I'm. There's like 30 seasons. I'm knocking them out consecutively. By the end of the summer, I will have seen every episode of the Joy of Painting. And I just need people to know that I have that going on in my life, because I'm not.
Matt Jones
You know what?
Drew Franklin
I am proud of it. I am proud of it. You should be, as dumb as that is.
Shannon the Dude
You are admitting something. If that's an admission, a confession, then I'm willing to confess, too. It's been out of my wheelhouse a little bit, but I had a run of about three years where that was the bedtime. We're popping on some Bob Ross before we go to bed. Because you're right. The voice, so soothing.
Nick Roush
Yes.
Shannon the Dude
You wait, you fall asleep, and then you wake up and it's still on. You're like, oh, I want to see him finish this page.
Drew Franklin
Oh, he's still on that same tree.
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Caller Monty
And.
Shannon the Dude
And you know what? There's plenty of them out there to run through, to burn and turn through. If you're working, you're at your laptop. You just kind of look in the background like oh, the tree looks kind of nice. What if snowscapes. Yeah, a lot of mountains.
Matt Jones
The best part is when he cleans his brush. You know, he does that. He knocks it. He always, he always laughs.
Nick Roush
He's like, what is wrong with you guys?
Shannon the Dude
Oh, I like when he brings out the animals at the beginning. He'll have like a chipmunk in his frocket.
Drew Franklin
So I, I, what does it matter with you painting?
Shannon the Dude
Drew expected everybody to make fun of him, and we're all like, oh, yeah, we love the dream painting.
Nick Roush
I found the community.
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I feel seen.
Drew Franklin
I feel seen right now. Well, it started, you know, sometimes I don't sleep very well, so I would take my cornbread gummy after I've watched the shows I want to watch, and I would turn that on, and most of the time I'd be asleep within five minutes because it's tone. I mean, he hadn't even gotten to the clouds or finished the Blue sky yet. But here lately, I've been really into it. And instead of falling asleep, I'm knocking out like four episodes a night.
Nick Roush
The fact that you're binge watching it now makes me really concerned about you.
Drew Franklin
I tried to be asleep by 11pm last night. At 2am you're still watching. Wide awake watching. He tells you what colors.
Shannon the Dude
Oh, yeah.
Nick Roush
Goodness.
Drew Franklin
I fully expected you all to make fun of me. Shannon, thank you for seeing me.
Matt Jones
Well, do you realize there's 405 episodes, so you've got some work to do still.
Drew Franklin
Yes. And the one I watched Last night, season five, episode one, titled Mountain Waterfall, came out six months before I was born.
Matt Jones
Hold on.
Drew Franklin
There's January 1985, 31 seasons, and you're.
Matt Jones
You get a long way.
Shannon the Dude
You'll get there.
Drew Franklin
God, I love the encouragement.
Shannon the Dude
And you know what? When Drew, when, when you finish all 31 seasons, you and I can go with Stephen Peak up to Muncie, Indiana. We can go to the Bob Ross Museum, and we can experience the joy of painting. And we can create our own landscapes for the KSR YouTube channel.
Drew Franklin
Should we start a Joy of Painting podcast? That's probably.
Shannon the Dude
We can describe what he's painting.
Drew Franklin
I did not expect the reaction to be this. I hope I'm being made fun of because I can't believe I'm doing it, but I'm into it that Bob can paint.
Nick Roush
Man, I am really upset about all three of you guys.
Drew Franklin
I'm waiting for a plot twist when he paints, like a person or an automobile, because right now it's just trees and clouds for five seasons.
Nick Roush
Freeze clouds.
Drew Franklin
I had to get that off.
Matt Jones
You like conspiracy theories? Have you heard the conspiracy theory that Bob Ross is actually a murderer?
Drew Franklin
I have. I don't believe it.
Matt Jones
Painting all the scenes of where the bodies are.
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Matt Jones
I just took a dark twist.
Drew Franklin
See? Big conspiracy theory guy. Huge. That one I can't get behind Bob.
Shannon the Dude
That's a lot of scenes of murders.
Drew Franklin
Well, just check the mountains, trees and the in the waters because that's where they are. I can't. I have to go to a break. I can't believe I confess that I don't want to open more. But thank you for seeing me. Nick Roush and Shannon. We'll be right back.
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Shannon the Dude
We wash our brushes with odorless thinner,
Caller Matt
shake them off and just beat the
Shannon the Dude
devil out of them.
Rob Gronkowski
That's where you take all your hostilities.
Matt Jones
It's good stuff.
Drew Franklin
Great stuff. Welcome back to KSR Football Show. If you were thinking Nick Roush is on today, I'm a little. I'm a little late, but I'm going to tune in now and see what they're saying about that new offensive line or what that defensive looks like. I'm sorry we were caught up in the joy of painting, but that's what we're doing right now.
Nick Roush
Y' all got a man crush on Bob Ross?
Drew Franklin
No, I didn't say anything about man crush. I just. My man's got a true talent at.
Nick Roush
What's the talent?
Shannon the Dude
Painting paintings.
Nick Roush
These paintings are awful and talking awful.
Drew Franklin
Now you're just hating. Now you're just hating.
Shannon the Dude
Dude, show me. I want to see a Ryan Lemon
Drew Franklin
painting when he has not painted.
Shannon the Dude
Cast the first stone.
Drew Franklin
I do feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders. Saying that into the microphone, getting it out. Now I can go home and finish season five.
Nick Roush
You have full support of two of your guys here.
Drew Franklin
I think Nick's going to come over and have some bourbon, knock out a few episodes.
Shannon the Dude
It's a great last way to enjoy your time before parenthood and baby time takes up all your time. Just joy of painting.
Drew Franklin
That's right. And we do have more football talk to come. We had a lot going on with Mo Williams. Matt called in. Roush is back on Thursday. We'll get more into it. There's plenty of time to talk about questions. Put a pin in it. Yeah, we'll get to it. So we didn't mean to completely gloss over football, but time flies when you're doing this, you know, And I had to talk a little TV that round.
Nick Roush
Well, they, like Matt, Nick said earlier, it kind of gets lost in March madness, you know, you do. Forget about it. Okay, basketball's over. Let's turn our focus, see what's going on in the football field right now.
Shannon the Dude
It's also exciting, but at the same time, it is just practice. So like, you know, practice practice. Right.
Nick Roush
Like real scrimmages.
Shannon the Dude
Not until Saturday. Until the first one will be this Saturday.
Nick Roush
All right.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, Shannon, let me make sure I check all my boxes here. You have one more read for us, right? Who's the segment brought to us by?
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needs, especially with the sun out. Now do we have time to get to Tanner real quick so I can get through all the callers? Sue Tanner. What's up?
Caller Monty
Hey, Drew. I apologize if you guys touched on this. I got caught accidentally working during KSR hours.
Caller with story about state championship
But I just wanted to give a
Caller Monty
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Drew Franklin
All right. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Remember, if you see it on Facebook. Just because it has a picture, it's not real. Had to have that talk with someone again yesterday. Look at you too, Ryan.
Nick Roush
It's too easy to be deceived because it is like. Looks like it's definitely real.
Drew Franklin
And there's a lot of negativity on there.
Nick Roush
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Tomorrow. What we got a little Is Billy Our Sports.
Nick Roush
Billy Our Sports is driving tomorrow. Yes.
Drew Franklin
So me, you, Billy and Shannon, let's go.
Nick Roush
Nick's back with us on Thursday and then Friday will be possibly at a secret location.
Drew Franklin
I have no idea what Billy has dialed up for us, but we're excited to hear from Billy and the rest of the crew will be here.
Nick Roush
We'll be at KS Bar tomorrow for Wednesday for Wednesday.
Drew Franklin
So check it out today. Nick, come back Thursday. We'll do more football talk. We'll talk about season six of the Joy painting. This has been ksr.
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Podcast: KSR
Host/Crew: Drew Franklin (host for the episode), Ryan Lemon, Nick Roush, Shannon The Dude
Special Segment: Call-in from Matt Jones
Date: March 31, 2026
This hour of KSR features lively discussion centered on recent NCAA basketball tournament action—especially Duke’s dramatic loss to UConn, as witnessed (and gleefully recounted) by Matt Jones from D.C. The crew also talks Kentucky basketball draft prospects, football rivalries and recruiting, the impact of TVG’s shutdown on the horse racing community, and share some fun pop culture/TV confessions. The mood is light, deeply Kentucky-centric, and full of signature KSR banter.
[02:37–13:42]
Matt’s Ecstasy at Duke’s Defeat:
Duke Locker Room & Press Conference Aftermath:
Cheering for the Lesser of Two Evils:
National Media Scene:
Danny Hurley’s Sideline Antics:
Why America Loves to Hate Duke:
[15:01–17:43]
[23:13–27:39]
[27:43–29:44]
[29:49–31:13]
[31:41–43:49]
Drew admits to binge-watching “The Joy of Painting with Bob Ross”:
Kentucky TV connections and updates:
[33:52–38:18]
[49:09–51:27]
The crew reminds listeners that while March Madness overshadows it, Kentucky football spring practice is underway. Nick: “Okay, basketball’s over. Let’s turn our focus, see what’s going on in the football field right now.” ([49:26])
PSA: Beware April 1st Facebook rumors and fake news about Kentucky basketball. ([50:34])
Matt Jones on Being at Duke-UConn:
“I have never, in a non-Kentucky sporting event, jumped higher than I did on Sunday.” ([03:24])
Matt on Duke Sadness:
“It was both the height of elation and like, the worst sadness you can see right next to each other.” ([07:45])
Matt on Duke Hate:
“America celebrates when Duke loses more than anything else. I don’t think there’s anything else in sports that people universally celebrate more than Duke losing.” ([09:17])
Drew’s Confession:
“I just need you all to know that I’m doing this and I want all your arrows in my direction…I watch The Joy of Painting with Bob Ross religiously.” ([40:17])
Shannon on TVG’s Demise:
“It’s the worst. They’re taking money out of our hands…But what’s happened, FanDuel TV is pulling the plug on TVG after 27 years. Gut punch.” ([34:37], [37:26])
This episode of KSR captures the exhilarating catharsis for Kentucky fans watching Duke lose in March Madness, as dramatically retold by Matt Jones from the thick of the action. The crew serves up laugh-out-loud storytelling, honest insights on UK sports and recruiting, and a slice of Kentucky life—both serious and silly (just ask about Bob Ross). From celebrating sporting schadenfreude to commiserating over endangered traditions like TVG, KSR continues to be equal parts sports think tank and community barbershop, always with one foot firmly in the Bluegrass.
To find specific moments, jump to the labeled timestamps above. For UK and sports fans who missed this hour, this summary keeps you in the loop with the highlights, hot takes, and all the personality you expect from KSR.