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Matt Jones
Our number two TY Sports Radio 859-28022 87 we haven't gone to the phones may do it but we haven't yet. 772-774-5254 Donnie Freeman by the way, Drew was saying a Caden Lewis can't shoot free throws. Not Blackwell.
Drew
Yeah, no, no Blackwell can definitely some reason Caden Lewis not so much.
Matt Jones
Yeah one person writes Matt, glad to have you back. Tell me what the atmosphere was like in that Duke Yukon game. Well, I was on here Tuesday and talked about it so I won't go into detail but it was awesome. Best that was one of the best
Guest Analyst
environments you've ever been in.
Matt Jones
Without question.
Jay Bilas
Just cause the crowd was half Duke,
Matt Jones
half Yukon going back and forth and then the shot just came out of nowhere.
Jay Bilas
You know it was like the always shot. There's something about in college like college basketball I think the fact that you
Matt Jones
can't call timeout and move it to half court. Yeah, right.
Jay Bilas
Which that allows for more buzzer beaters. But you also don't get like the full court excitement. And it's kind of like with always
Matt Jones
thing against Santa Clara.
Jay Bilas
The fact that it happens so quickly and there's no stop and play almost
Matt Jones
makes it to where you don't have time to process how crazy it is. Right. Same thing with O way this was.
Drew
Drew Ty.
Jay Bilas
Some of the favorite members came out of timeouts though.
Drew
But this is not advancing the.
Jay Bilas
Yeah, but this like getting the steel or coming off a make. There's something about it just kind of
Matt Jones
flowing like that that makes you go whoa. And that, that was cool.
Guest Analyst
Your point of not being able to process it was perfect. With the video of Grant Hill and Bill Raft.
Jay Bilas
I thought Bill Raftery had died.
Guest Analyst
They couldn't process it.
Matt Jones
I thought he might have died. Like literally it looked like he died and I loved it. There are such a good team by the way. I know. And I think Grant Hill's very good too. But what, what an amazing moment.
Jay Bilas
But now we need them to lose. This has all been fun, but we
Matt Jones
need them to not win title seven tonight.
Guest Analyst
Yeah, you know it's bad as we wanted Duke to lose, now you got to root against Connecticut.
Jay Bilas
And by the way, Yukon is a blue blood now.
Matt Jones
Like anytime we have the conversation, it has to be Kentucky, Duke, Carolina, Kansas and UConn. And then you can debate whether you want to still put UCLA there, but you definitely have to put Yukon. They, there's no argument that they're not in there.
Drew
Yeah, just if you look at the title count, you can't kick them out.
Matt Jones
You have to, you can't kick them out. You can't say it's recency bias. Well, I mean four of our titles were in a 10 year period in the 40s and 50s. Like you have to, if you put UCLA in there, they're all in the 60s and 70s for the most part. So you gotta, you gotta do that.
Jay Bilas
It's crazy.
Guest Analyst
The stat you mentioned earlier though, that when they go to the final, when they make get the NCAA tournament, like they either win it or they don't make it.
Jay Bilas
Yeah. And three different, three different coaches is important.
Matt Jones
It's important that they've won with three
Guest Analyst
different coaches in a short amount of time.
Jay Bilas
We have won with the most coach. We have won with five.
Matt Jones
I was looking at this.
Jay Bilas
We've won with five, Carolinas won with
Matt Jones
three and they've won with three and that's it.
Drew
And one of them Was Kevin Ollie.
Jay Bilas
Yeah, but that's it. The amount of programs that have won with more than two coaches is three.
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Matt Jones
Kentucky, Carolina and UConn.
Jay Bilas
That's it. That matters.
Guest Analyst
It does matter.
Matt Jones
In terms of how you judge this stuff. Now, I do want to say. So I'm going to. I need to take up for Big Blue Nation.
Jay Bilas
And this is taking up for Big
Matt Jones
Blue Nation in part against other people,
Jay Bilas
but it's also in part against some of our own parts of Big Blue Nation. And none of this is to criticize
Matt Jones
the point I'm about to make, but I also think it's completely unfair.
Jay Bilas
So an account on Twitter called Thrill
Matt Jones
Kitely, which is a really good name for a account, by the way. I don't know who Thrill Kitely is, but that's a great name for account.
Jay Bilas
Do you know who Thrill Kitely?
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Guest Analyst
I've seen him. I've seen the account. I don't know who it is.
Matt Jones
Okay. I thought you knew it. It says he's class of 25 at UK. So I was like, you hanging out with her?
Guest Analyst
No, I just know of the account.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Jay Bilas
So he puts out. I'm hearing that both Mark Pope and John Calipari have privately vented that UK's
Matt Jones
fan base has negatively affected recruiting since 2020.
Jay Bilas
Other schools use the fan base and
Matt Jones
the negativity against UK and it has
Jay Bilas
cost multiple elite recruits. And that kind of went viral of
Matt Jones
fans being like, our fans stink. It's our own fans in general saying that.
Guest Analyst
Yeah.
Matt Jones
So I responded, andrew, I thought you would be proud of this response. I said, yeah, it couldn't be that. Since that time, this team has missed the tournament, had two embarrassing first round losses, not started two top 10 picks, and had a Ferrari season in mediocrity. No, it's got to be the fans fault.
Drew
It's definitely the five mean tweets that people see couldn't be the results of the team.
Jay Bilas
So since 2020 is very important because
Matt Jones
since 2020, we've lost Oakland, we've lost to St. Peter's we've missed the tournament, we've put Reed and Rob on the bench, and we have had a Ferrari season play out the way this one did.
Jay Bilas
So I just want to take a
Matt Jones
second just to take up for Big Blue Nation.
Jay Bilas
Now, I'm not going to act like
Matt Jones
there aren't fools online. Just go look at my responses on any given day.
Jay Bilas
People can be outrageously cruel online.
Matt Jones
Outrageously.
Jay Bilas
And it's gotten worse.
Matt Jones
And I get it all the time.
Jay Bilas
The players get it in some ways worse. And it's despicable that people do it. But it's also unfortunately human reality. Go look at what any human being
Matt Jones
of notoriety says and then read their responses. It's awful. And it's worse on Twitter than anywhere else. But it's also bad on TikTok. It's really bad everywhere. Instagram people seem the nicest, but that's because it's mostly women on Instagram.
Jay Bilas
But it's bad. People are mean and on Twitter they can use fake identities, which makes them even meaner.
Matt Jones
And I'm not trying to downplay that that happens. Okay.
Jay Bilas
And I'm not downplaying that thrill kitely, even though I don't know who that is, is wrong that coaches privately blame the fans. I'll even go so far as to
Matt Jones
say he's right or she or whoever runs that account.
Jay Bilas
They do. Cal did. And I've heard that that has been done by some folks at uk. I can't say it's Pope specifically, but
Matt Jones
folks at UK now.
Jay Bilas
But I will just say this.
Matt Jones
They're full of it.
Jay Bilas
They are using other people for their own failures. I want to remind you just what
Matt Jones
has happened in the last few weeks at other schools.
Jay Bilas
Hunter Dickinson went on a podcast and said that the Kansas team was ready to finish their season early because they
Matt Jones
hated their fans so much. That was Kansas, who by the way, seems to be doing fine in recruiting
Jay Bilas
Duke. Go look at what Kaden Boozer just
Matt Jones
had to go through.
Jay Bilas
Go look at his comp. Go look. Just Google Caden Boozers name and see what people say about him since that play.
Drew
Some of the worst I've ever seen.
Jay Bilas
It is maybe the worst I've ever seen. Go look at any football team when a kicker misses a kick.
Guest Analyst
Yeah.
Jay Bilas
All right. Go look at North Carolina after they lost to VCU and what their players
Matt Jones
and Hubert Davis took.
Jay Bilas
Now do Kentucky fans, are they like that?
Matt Jones
Yes.
Jay Bilas
Go look at what Louisville fans did with Mikhail Brown when he wouldn't play this year.
Matt Jones
Right?
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Jay Bilas
Do our fans do that?
Matt Jones
Without question, some of them do, but
Jay Bilas
so do everybody else's. So when you're losing players, it's not because of that. Have you heard John Shire say we can't get players because of what people said to Kaden Boozer?
Guest Analyst
No.
Jay Bilas
Have you heard Kansas?
Matt Jones
They're they Tyron Stokes.
Jay Bilas
We're either going to get him or
Matt Jones
they're going to get him.
Jay Bilas
Don't hear anything because of the mean tweets because he's going to have to Go to one school or the other
Matt Jones
that has mean tweets.
Jay Bilas
It is an excuse to say that do. Now do I think other coaches maybe use Kentucky fan tweets against the the program? Possibly. But you know what we need to do? Our fan base and our coaches and our administrators need to take up for the fans. Why are we writing this stuff and blaming. Don't blame cat fan in your eye. When that person says something bad, tell them to shut up. But when we perpetuate this narrative that we're awful, we're hurting ourselves more than the tweets. Right. If John Calipari and Mark Pope and again, I don't know that those two guys personally do it. But if they do, that only hurts us, right?
Guest Analyst
Yeah.
Jay Bilas
Because what we should say is they've got people too. It's the, you know, nastiness of the Internet. But how about we focus on the multi millions of Kentucky fans that are wonderful.
Matt Jones
Right.
Guest Analyst
Most passionate fans in the country right here.
Jay Bilas
The most passionate and best fans are here. Now if you live your life only online, it can seem like the world
Matt Jones
is falling apart, right?
Guest Analyst
Yeah.
Jay Bilas
Because online world, the life world stinks. But go outside,
Matt Jones
right?
Guest Analyst
Smell the flowers.
Jay Bilas
And I have to remind myself this.
Matt Jones
Now I get too online sometimes and
Jay Bilas
then I have to go to a
Matt Jones
remote and go see like the actual fans, right. I have to go to a game and like see the actual fans.
Jay Bilas
Because if you only live in this circle of online, the hate. The hate is. Can be bad. Now what I think happens with our
Matt Jones
players sometimes is they are perpetually online, some of them.
Jay Bilas
And so they do feel that.
Matt Jones
I get it.
Jay Bilas
But you know what we're never going to be able to do?
Matt Jones
Fix the niceness online.
Jay Bilas
Because when you try to be nice to people or say something back, they
Matt Jones
just get meaner sometimes. Especially the anonymous accounts.
Drew
And it's mostly anonymous accounts.
Jay Bilas
And it's mostly anonymous accounts. How do we also even know these are Kentucky fans? So I would say that continuing to
Matt Jones
perpetuate this myth that Kentucky fans are worse than everybody else only hurts us. We should instead a focus on the
Jay Bilas
good fans and be don't let people off the hook by blaming fans.
Matt Jones
We've joked about how when we lose games, their fans go Matt Jones fault. Okay, it's our fault.
Jay Bilas
Now we're to the point that if we don't get a recruit, it's random Internet accounts fault.
Matt Jones
I just don't buy it. And that's my little rant.
Guest Analyst
That's a great rant. I think we all need to Hear that? I think we see the small minority of fans that are little vocal and we think that's how it represents our entire fan base. And that's not even close to being the truth.
Jay Bilas
But part of the reason people think it represents it is because we spend
Matt Jones
so much time yelling at each other
Jay Bilas
and like, ignore those people. And I do think it's the coach's
Matt Jones
responsibility and the administrator's responsibility to get
Jay Bilas
the players to ignore them.
Matt Jones
Right.
Jay Bilas
They do need to do that.
Drew
They shouldn't. If a player comes up, and I don't believe this has happened one time, by the way. I mean, John Caliperi's last recruiting class had three of the top five players. He had the number one center, the number one small forward, number one combo guard, and then Rob and Reed. I mean, I don't think Cal. What more did he want from that class that ruined fans? And with Pope, if people are truly coming up to you in a sit down recruiting and they're saying, well, so and so did this SEC school, SEC school showed me this one tweet, I'd be like, hey, let me show you how we sold out Rupp arena for a press conference where people didn't even really want me.
Jay Bilas
Like, and if you really think Louisville
Matt Jones
coaches, and I don't know if this
Jay Bilas
is true, but if Louisville coaches are using Kentucky tweets, then just pull up Louisville fan tweets. Like, if that's what if we're going. If that's what you're going to have
Matt Jones
to do, then do it.
Jay Bilas
Because it's not just Kentucky. Here is what is fact.
Matt Jones
And I will say this and drop it. If you ask me more questions, I'm just going to drop it.
Jay Bilas
There is a player of some significance who staffs have come out.
Matt Jones
This player of some significance did not come here. And they have said that a player's family member said it was because of tweets. I don't even know if I believe that.
Jay Bilas
But if you're losing a player in
Matt Jones
the nil age because of tweets, then they weren't coming here anyway, in my opinion.
Drew
If they produce those tweets, show them all the good. Show them that after a loss in Rupp arena, there's still a line of people waiting to get a picture and an autograph on their way out. Even if they had a bad game, highlight the good stuff and be like, okay, sure, you showed me five tweets there on a printout. I'm sorry, that happens. But look at all this other stuff.
Jay Bilas
There is a player that that these
Matt Jones
folks are using as an example. I would say to you that privately the people around that player have blamed other forces, some of which we've talked about on this show.
Jay Bilas
And maybe this is a way to
Matt Jones
deflect from the blame going to them and put it on random anonymous fans.
Jay Bilas
At the end of the day, the
Matt Jones
proof is in the pudding. You get the players or you don't. And by the way, once we start
Jay Bilas
getting the players and we win, all these tweets will go away.
Guest Analyst
Of course, winning cures everything.
Matt Jones
You win.
Jay Bilas
It's going to be great. We all want Kentucky to win. I had this conversation a few weeks
Matt Jones
ago with one of the Kentucky somebody in the UK administration.
Jay Bilas
I said, look, we all want us to win. Let's remember that. Let's stop pointing fingers and let's try to win.
Matt Jones
And to me, that should be the ultimate goal. We'll take a break. Be right back. KSR hey, Donald.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio Text Machine 772-7745254. One person writes, Matt, they should get former players who've been on teams to talk about how good fans are after they leave.
Jay Bilas
You see that all the time. Even somebody like Khalil Whitney, who had
Matt Jones
a tough time here, then leaves and talks about how great it was that fans still supported him. That will happen with all these guys, too.
Jay Bilas
I mean, it's gonna. It'll happen. I mean, remember Clue Whitney?
Matt Jones
I'm not sure a career could have gone more negatively than his did.
Jay Bilas
And yet people still embrace that kid
Matt Jones
when he comes back.
Guest Analyst
The twins talked about it when they were here this summer.
Matt Jones
Twins.
Jay Bilas
Yes.
Matt Jones
Yeah, twins.
Guest Analyst
How much love they feel and love coming back now as a former player,
Drew
even in that documentary on Saturday, always says he sees all the tweets, but then he's like, you just gotta shrug it off. You know, it's Twitter and then go
Matt Jones
out in the world.
Drew
The Internet's mean. We can't change the Internet.
Guest Analyst
Us old people like me that. They want to tell these young kids, well, just stay off social media, man. They grew up with social media. They're on social media every day.
Matt Jones
It's hard for them. I totally get that. All right, one person writes, matt, what do you think about President Trump's executive order? Will you finally say he did something good? I mean, he had quite a Easter tweet yesterday.
Guest Analyst
Speaking of tweets on a holy day.
Matt Jones
That was beautiful. What did you almost cuss?
Guest Analyst
I said I was gonna say shame on you.
Matt Jones
Oh, I thought you were about to cuss. Do not cuss. Our bosses are in the.
Guest Analyst
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Jay Bilas
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Matt Jones
Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Well, look, the executive order, I mean, people can agree or disagree with what's in it. My point is it's ultimately completely useless. He's not allowed to do that. So somebody will challenge it in court, and when they do, he will lose. So I do think where it is important is it tells you where, like, his staff is on this, which is they want to have five years for five.
Jay Bilas
So this could mean guys have five
Matt Jones
years of eligibility now.
Jay Bilas
So that's something I don't think people
Matt Jones
are talking about a lot.
Jay Bilas
If Trump were to get his way.
Matt Jones
And again, none of this matters. Congress has to be the one to do this. But you could get five years to play. So a guy. Forget about red shirts. You could just play five years, which I think is interesting. And then second, though, is only one transfer.
Jay Bilas
That's the part I don't like.
Guest Analyst
One free transfer. Right.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Jay Bilas
Because what if you transfer and you just hate the place?
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Matt Jones
Let's play it out like this.
Jay Bilas
Let's take Jasper Johnson.
Guest Analyst
Okay.
Matt Jones
Okay. Jasper Johnson comes to uk, it doesn't work out.
Jay Bilas
Do you agree it's best for Jasper
Matt Jones
and UK for him to move on?
Guest Analyst
That's a good part about the transfer portal.
Matt Jones
Here's the problem for if you only have one transfer, let's say he goes to Alabama. That's where he's going.
Jay Bilas
Let's say he goes to Alabama. Now, what if he gets down there
Matt Jones
and it doesn't work out?
Jay Bilas
Or what if he gets down now Alabama can just say, Jasper, after year one, we're only going to pay you $100,000. You know why? Because you can't do anything about it.
Guest Analyst
Can't transfer again.
Jay Bilas
You can't go anywhere. You've given all the leverage to the schools. The schools can now because you're not allowed to sign a contract. So Jasper can't ensure that the school can't just block him for the rest of his career. Isn't that the exact thing we were
Matt Jones
trying to get away from before?
Jay Bilas
So I understand guys going five schools in five years, but Jay Bilis was right.
Matt Jones
Did you see the argument between Jay and Cal and Seth Greenberg?
Drew
Yeah, I read about it, but you can't read it.
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Jay Bilas
Jay Bilis made a good point. You want to fix this? Let them Sign contracts, Let them sign contracts, then that'll fix it. Yes, but the NCAA doesn't want to do that.
Matt Jones
They don't want to let them sign contracts. But do you want to fix it,
Jay Bilas
then let them do it? No. What's interesting to me is everybody says this system is unsustainable. Why?
Matt Jones
The ratings are higher than they've ever been.
Guest Analyst
Good point.
Matt Jones
The games are higher than they've ever been. The money is high.
Jay Bilas
But you know what?
Matt Jones
It's going to go down eventually because people won't pay it.
Jay Bilas
But is anybody saying coaches should be paid less? Is anybody saying AD should be paid less? Maybe AD shouldn't get to sign million dollar for life deals.
Matt Jones
I'll say that.
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Jay Bilas
But the President's not getting involved with that, is he?
Guest Analyst
No.
Jay Bilas
So.
Matt Jones
So I don't really care so much about the executive order because it's not going to stand up. But this legislation at some point is going to happen. And I think if they do the
Jay Bilas
only one transfer, I understand why people think that sounds good, but in practice, use Jasper Johnson, if he transfers, wherever he goes will now have control of
Matt Jones
that kid for the rest of his time and there's not a thing he can do about it.
Guest Analyst
So is the rule where if he transferred a second time, he'd have to sit out a year like it used to be?
Drew
Yes, you only have the five year
Matt Jones
window, but then you only have the
Jay Bilas
five year window, so you're basically forcing him to not play for a year. Yeah, I don't.
Matt Jones
Is that good?
Drew
And is it Congress like I'll use North Carolina example because he liked North Carolina. If he had transferred to North Carolina and then Hubert Davis gets fired, is he still stuck or do they go back to looking into that? There's your circumstances can.
Jay Bilas
And then are you going to get waivers?
Matt Jones
And we're back to the situation where everybody applies for waivers and we know
Drew
they weren't good at that in the first place.
Jay Bilas
And then what if you go there and the coach does something bad to you? What if you go there and the
Matt Jones
coach smacks you in the face? Are you saying he can't leave now?
Drew
Four more years stuck.
Jay Bilas
So I just don't like, I don't like the rule.
Matt Jones
I think they're, you know, John Caliperi, man. Every time he talks about it, the players get older. You know, he used to go, there's 24 year olds playing basketball. Then he's like, there's 25 year olds.
Jay Bilas
And then when he was on there with Bill, he goes, There's 28 year olds who is 28 playing basketball.
Guest Analyst
He used the same joke with two kids in a mortgage.
Drew
I heard it got contentious with Cal and Billis, like I said, because Billis
Jay Bilas
was basically calling Cal out for being in Greenberg.
Matt Jones
Greenberg was shockingly on Cal side. And they were both like, there has to be rules. There has to be.
Jay Bilas
And Billis was like, why?
Matt Jones
This is the highest rated tournament of all time. Everyone agrees the quality of play is better than it's ever been.
Jay Bilas
Why do we. What is the deal? If you don't want to pay money for these guys, just don't.
Drew
Touche.
Jay Bilas
You don't have to like you. Nobody's making you.
Guest Analyst
Football ratings are up. Basketball ratings are up. The sport is at its highest level.
Matt Jones
I saw a great tweet and it was a little political, but I don't care. It showed a picture of Zoran Mandami and it said college basketball coaches and ads, whenever it comes to sports, they all become socialist. They do. They all are like, we got to stop paying these people. We got to collectivize. We got to share the money. We got to make sure players don't like.
Jay Bilas
They all become zoron.
Guest Analyst
They're going to share their own money.
Jay Bilas
No, they are.
Matt Jones
No, they're capitalists for themselves, but they're
Jay Bilas
socialists for the players. It's just. It's interesting.
Matt Jones
All right, we'll take a break, have a little more fun. When we come back. Ksr. Welcome back, techie Sports radio bbn.
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Drew
That's incredible.
Matt Jones
I mean, I don't know how many people listening to this have. Have gone ahead and bit the bullet and watched the show. I highly recommend episodes one through five. Okay, highly recommend.
Drew
Especially two. Two is my favorite.
Matt Jones
Which one was two?
Drew
The retired guys with the hot tub in the house.
Matt Jones
Like the guys with the hot tub in the house? Yeah, the guy that does karate and all that? Yeah, he's. He's good.
Jay Bilas
Have you watched them all?
Guest Analyst
Watched it all.
Matt Jones
Okay, so all Right. So we can, the three of us, talk about 1 through 5. Highly recommend crazy people. Really? Petty disputes.
Drew
A Backstreet Boy appearance. Who saw that coming?
Matt Jones
By the way, there's an update on. There's an update on the Backstreet Boy, so love it.
Jay Bilas
Episode six.
Matt Jones
Wow. Wow.
Jay Bilas
Rick, have you seen Neighbors?
Matt Jones
No, I haven't seen that. I haven't checked.
Jay Bilas
I want you to rig. Do you have hbo?
Matt Jones
Yeah, hbo.
Jay Bilas
Max, I want you tonight, Rick.
Matt Jones
Don't read one thing about it. Just turn on Neighbors and watch episode six only. Okay, I'll do that.
Jay Bilas
Will you do that?
Matt Jones
Are you here tomorrow?
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I'm here all week.
Jay Bilas
Okay, so just tonight, just watch episode six and then come back and I want your thoughts.
Matt Jones
Okay.
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Matt Jones
Why? Why? You all have your hands in your head.
Guest Analyst
Poor Rick.
Jay Bilas
Don't you think Rick should see it?
Guest Analyst
I don't know. I don't know if I want anybody to see that part of me now.
Matt Jones
I really want to see it. See. Okay, so without spoiling it for Rick, because I want to give Rick the chance to watch it. And then we talk details tomorrow. Wow.
Guest Analyst
Yeah.
Drew
A lot going on there.
Guest Analyst
Wow is a good way to put
Jay Bilas
it in the end.
Matt Jones
Did you feel sorry for that guy?
Drew
I was so happy when he found Community. I thought he was going to stick around. I was. I actually.
Matt Jones
What about the woman, though?
Drew
Incredible. The music video. I've not stopped singing Shake that, you know, won't say it here. That was a. That was a plot twist I didn't see coming. I thought we were focused on him. And then she brought her own stuff to the door.
Matt Jones
She had her own thing going.
Drew
And I did get very sad with the constant text messaging, though.
Matt Jones
I did, too.
Drew
You're not answering me.
Matt Jones
I couldn't watch the text. That actually made me the texting. You know how sometimes you just, like. It's so cringy you can't even look at it. That was one of those, what about the Community? Again, speaking broadly here so we don't spoil it for Rick.
Guest Analyst
I really didn't realize. I guess there were communities like that that existed where I could see you
Matt Jones
living in one of those communities. All I could think about is, there's a world where Ryan Lemon could live here. Did you have that thought?
Drew
Absolutely. I could see him rocking that stage at karaoke night.
Guest Analyst
I definitely would rock karaoke night.
Matt Jones
I am not sure when this show ends. You will not end up at one of those places. I
Jay Bilas
will say there are very few
Matt Jones
things at this stage of my life that make Me go, whoa.
Jay Bilas
But when he got in that cart.
Guest Analyst
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Golf cart. And started driving through that place, that was a. Whoa.
Guest Analyst
Yeah.
Matt Jones
That was what?
Jay Bilas
I wasn't ready. I thought I was ready.
Matt Jones
I wasn't ready.
Drew
I had been warned so many times to the point, I'm like, I don't even know if I need to watch it. I know so much about it, and I still had to pick my jaw off the floor.
Jay Bilas
So, Rick, you take your view tonight. Okay.
Matt Jones
Okay. And then we'll talk about it tomorrow.
Stockton Mortgage Advertiser
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Guest Analyst
All you wanted to watch is.
Matt Jones
And we won't have to go into details. I want you to also know, Rick, all of us in the KSR world, our prayers are with you, my man. I appreciate that very much.
Jay Bilas
And you.
Matt Jones
You and I, we don't have to go into it, but like, everybody listening. I hope you know that, Rick. Yes. Okay. I just want to make. We love you, Rick. We love you. All right, so now with that said, Spring of Ellie got a big hit last night.
Jay Bilas
Six and three.
Guest Analyst
Yeah. Swept the Rangers.
Matt Jones
Swept the Rangers. A who?
Jay Bilas
Hanio.
Guest Analyst
Chase. Burns had a big game.
Jay Bilas
Burns had a big game.
Matt Jones
Used to Summer of Sal.
Jay Bilas
Spring of Ellie.
Matt Jones
Summer of Sal.
Guest Analyst
He's leading candidate to win WIE of the year right now.
Jay Bilas
Wookie of the year. He's going to be Wookie of the year.
Guest Analyst
Of the year, Sal.
Matt Jones
Wow. Somebody needs to make a meme of that.
Jay Bilas
Sal Stewart, Wookiee of the year. Just like the Star wars.
Drew
That'll be online in 10 minutes.
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Jay Bilas
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Matt Jones
Wookie of the year.
Jay Bilas
Little speech deer got a big hit.
Guest Analyst
Yeah.
Jay Bilas
So, you know, I'm not giving up yet.
Drew
It's just we get this every year. We get the excitement, and then around May, you'll be like, I'm never going again. And then they'll win a series in June and you'll be back.
Matt Jones
Yeah, that's how it works. Now can I go ahead and tell you something I'm mad about?
Guest Analyst
What's that?
Matt Jones
This damn blister.
Guest Analyst
Oh, yeah.
Jay Bilas
What is with the. We've. We've talked about this. I don't understand this blister. Nick Lodolo's had the same blister for
Matt Jones
three years, and he keeps being out and he.
Jay Bilas
They're like. They've. The story I read said they've tried every single thing one can do to fix a blister. Have we found out that in the medical profession the only unfixable thing is a finger blister? He can't fix it. He said they've tried rubbing sandpaper on it to get a callus.
Matt Jones
It just keeps popping.
Jay Bilas
How's that possible?
Guest Analyst
I don't get it. Like I said, I played baseball my whole life. Not one time did a pitcher miss a play start because he had a blister. Not ever.
Jay Bilas
But this is three years of the
Drew
same blister, same guy, three weeks I could understand. It just won't go away. And every time you try something it gets worse.
Matt Jones
But three years is ridiculous.
Jay Bilas
There have to explain to me.
Matt Jones
So a blister is just like irritation from rubbing, right?
Guest Analyst
Yeah, over time and time again.
Jay Bilas
But does your hand like my feet?
Matt Jones
You can get a calluses?
Jay Bilas
Yeah, they do. But I have parts of my feet that can't blister because they've calloused up. So if he's been pitching, can your fingers. Not callous.
Matt Jones
Exactly.
Guest Analyst
He's been pitching the same hand for 20 years.
Jay Bilas
You got soft little baby hands.
Guest Analyst
Maybe. I don't know what's going on there.
Jay Bilas
Do you know? How do you know?
Drew
Like I said, I can understand short term why it'd be a problem. But the fact this has spanned multiple seasons. Like what's. What's the next for everything? He struggles. You just got to amputate it.
Jay Bilas
Can you put.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Jay Bilas
Somebody may be able to tell.
Matt Jones
Maybe there's a baseball.
Jay Bilas
Can I not put a band aid on it?
Guest Analyst
Probably not.
Matt Jones
Why?
Guest Analyst
Nothing on your throwing hand.
Jay Bilas
So you can't have.
Matt Jones
Where it have a bandaid?
Guest Analyst
I don't think so. Considered a foreign substance, foreign object on your throwing hand, in your glove. Nothing like that.
Jay Bilas
So you. I didn't realize that. So you couldn't you no band aid.
Guest Analyst
Not as your pitcher, not on your throwing hand.
Jay Bilas
But what do they think a band aid is going to do?
Guest Analyst
Distract the hitter. They'll see that band aid. Okay.
Jay Bilas
We'll make it flesh colored.
Guest Analyst
Yeah, yeah.
Drew
He can't use like the blue Snoopy one or anything.
Jay Bilas
Yeah, he just has to. He has to use the same as his skin. Still can't do that.
Guest Analyst
I don't get it, man. I've never heard a pitcher have this many problems with it. Every now and then maybe one come up for the same guy to happen
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year after year after year. Something's not right.
Guest Analyst
Maybe he got manicures his whole life and he's got little soft little baby hands.
Matt Jones
It's infuriating because we could use him because he's good. He's good. He's 6 11.
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Matt Jones
All right. They announced during the time I was away that UK has signed a deal with Fanatics. JMI signs a deal for 12 years that allows Fanatics merchandise and 25 players during those 12 years will have their own branded Fanatics merchandise. That's part of Nil deals. What are your thoughts?
Drew
I like the idea of players being able to, you know, add another layer to them, go out and get money. I hope it does really well in nil. I don't know why we keep signing these decade long deals in such a time of uncertainty, where the sport changes on a dime any day. But overall I'd say it's positive as long as the players are getting compensated enough to get here.
Matt Jones
Yeah, that's my take. It seems positive to me. I don't see the negative in general. I think it seems creative and we
Drew
asked for them to do creative things. This would be a creative thing.
Matt Jones
I think with all of these deals, ultimately the proof is in do you get players. Right.
Drew
So yeah, the idea, because they already have Fanatics deals, you can go get the logo. I guess like a Colin Chandler could have his own line through fanatics now
Matt Jones
using the uk and UK is the one that's. So I think the theory is UK goes up to Tyron Stokes and says we're going to create Tyron Stokes branded clothes through fanatics and through that we will give you more money in. I think that's the theory, Ryan, of what it is.
Drew
Yeah.
Guest Analyst
So I just want how they're going to spread it out. Like does UK football, UK basketball. Is Clara Strack get one for UK women's basketball. How do they spread it out?
Matt Jones
I think they just figure out who they want.
Drew
Biggest names on campus.
Matt Jones
Who are the people that we want
Guest Analyst
to get 25 guys if you're that 26.
Matt Jones
Well, but I would bet if it's working, fanatics probably guaranteed 25. But if it's working then maybe they'll do 50 or you know, I mean, I don't.
Jay Bilas
I'm with Drew.
Matt Jones
I think it actually sounds like a good idea. The question for me is only, you know, the proof.
Jay Bilas
Do you get players or not?
Matt Jones
Like that's going to be the whole thing and I. And we'll have to wait and see. We don't really know if you got
Guest Analyst
a popular guy like just Trent for example, who came in and everybody loved him in the 13th region. Everybody would want a Trent.
Matt Jones
No, I think if you did that with Trent Noah when he first got here, that would have been a great.
Guest Analyst
Exactly.
Matt Jones
A great idea.
Jay Bilas
And I think the good here's the
Matt Jones
good thing about this. Like Kentucky branded has done these deals with players.
Jay Bilas
But. But now uk, like in theory, a player could create Trent Noah branded merchandise
Matt Jones
that has the UK logo and that he could wear in warmups.
Guest Analyst
Yeah.
Drew
A counter would be, what if they have a company that they like and want to do deal with and fanatics is like, well, we don't deal with that company.
Matt Jones
That's. There you go.
Drew
But I.
Matt Jones
Details. If you're Tyron Stokes and you already have a deal with a company, will UK let you keep it? We don't really know the answer to that.
Jay Bilas
UK has said yes.
Matt Jones
But privately you hear conversations that they make it so difficult that the players are like, I don't really think we can do this. So I don't know.
Jay Bilas
But that is a very small group
Matt Jones
of players that of course like handful of the top basketball recruits.
Jay Bilas
Which is why I genuinely do believe
Matt Jones
that the JM idea works for football. We just have to see about basketball. And I'm not ready to say yes or no yet, but I did think this was positive. It was a decent step.
Guest Analyst
You're saying not for basketball because there's more opportunities for the basketball players out there.
Jay Bilas
I think the football guys we're.
Matt Jones
We're recruiting, they don't come in here with deals. We're recruiting like the 96th best.
Jay Bilas
Like basketball. We're recruiting the top four dudes in
Matt Jones
America and they might already have deals.
Stockton Mortgage Advertiser
Yeah.
Jay Bilas
Like Tyrone Stokes already has a deal with Nike. Kansas clearly is saying to him, we'll work around it.
Matt Jones
My question is, are UK and jmi when the kid has a deal with Adidas, are we willing to work around
Jay Bilas
it and we don't know the answer
Matt Jones
that we've had some hints that maybe they're not, but we don't really know. That's really the question.
Guest Analyst
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Matt Jones
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Jay Bilas
Are you ready?
Matt Jones
Like, I'm not going to go and show up. And, like you will have moved me to a new house.
Drew
Got your paperwork ready?
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Matt Jones
All right.
Drew
And then the housewarming party.
Matt Jones
Yeah, we gotta have a housewarming party.
Guest Analyst
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Matt Jones
First I gotta get furniture. We'll bring furniture.
Drew
I'll bring you a stool.
Matt Jones
First I gotta get furniture. I was researching interior designers this week. Yeah, that's not a fun research.
Guest Analyst
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Drew
Buckle up on furnishing that place. It's whatever you think it's going to be.
Matt Jones
It's going to be more. Yeah, but I don't know how to judge them. People in Lexington seem to have a lot of floral designs on their couches.
Guest Analyst
Patterns coming back, not necessarily the manly thing you want.
Matt Jones
I don't want those floral designs.
Jay Bilas
So it's hard for me to find
Matt Jones
who does good designing that doesn't include, like, flowers on the couches.
Drew
Well, Mario's gonna design your studio right in the kitchen again.
Matt Jones
Yeah, Mario doesn't get to do the new one. We'll take a break. Be right back. Scale.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back techie sports radio. 8592-802287-77277-45254 on the text machine. Thank you to the wookiee of the year pictures. Those were good. Yeah, I enjoyed that.
Drew
They did not disappoint.
Matt Jones
You did very good job. This is still like what I was saying about the good fan base. This is the best fan base. It is this thing. And I will say when I had conversations with ESPN at various points, I got asked by one of the top people at ESPN why do you think your audience is so good? And I said the people of Kentucky are the best. And they were like yeah, yeah.
Jay Bilas
And I said no, but I'm serious.
Matt Jones
Like they're the nicest people. And one of them goes, even though
Jay Bilas
you're a dirty liberal. And I said yes, even more so. Like the fact that they people will overlook those things because they just, they're, they're nice.
Guest Analyst
We know most of our people listening are not on your side politically.
Jay Bilas
Yeah, I mean, you know, but we all can laugh at the dude at
Matt Jones
the Kristi Gnomes husband, can't we?
Guest Analyst
Oh my, oh my.
Matt Jones
Be fair though. I could see you doing that, too.
Guest Analyst
I would do it for Halloween. Dress up. I don't know if I'd walk around.
Matt Jones
I can't do. Any ideas? I could see you being on the
Jay Bilas
neighbors show, and I could see you
Matt Jones
doing that as well. Before we finish, Bill Raftery. He's 82 years old, but he did an interview where he said, I'm actually older than that, but I don't tell people how old I am.
Guest Analyst
Really?
Matt Jones
Did you see that?
Guest Analyst
No.
Matt Jones
He said, I'm actually a few years older than that. But we. I don't want to say what it is, really.
Drew
So did you, like, forge a bursar?
Matt Jones
I don't know.
Jay Bilas
Is he, like, one of the Dominican baseball players who. Age is unknown.
Drew
He started to lie in the teens, and he just couldn't change it all.
Matt Jones
Or could it have been he changed his Facebook age for Tinder when he went to Dallas with Drew?
Drew
Yeah.
Jay Bilas
He was traveling to the Final Four,
Drew
and he's like, I got to lower my age.
Matt Jones
And then they won't let you change it back.
Drew
That happens to people.
Guest Analyst
I've heard.
Matt Jones
I wouldn't know anything about it, but I've heard that that happens.
Drew
Yeah. In the college basketball media landscape.
Matt Jones
And then 15 years later, you can't change it back, and people think that your Facebook age is younger.
Drew
That's got to be what it is.
Guest Analyst
Go with it.
Jay Bilas
But how about. So let me. So he's 82, and I have said
Matt Jones
I think he's amazing at his job for 82, but what if he's actually older than 82 and still that good at his job?
Jay Bilas
Pretty impressive, isn't it?
Guest Analyst
Super impressive to him to be. If he's mid-80s or higher, he's able to still do that. His call of that Brady Braylon Mullen shot will go down in history. The way he handled it, you know, he's. He's just one of the best.
Matt Jones
I think he's awesome.
Jay Bilas
I mean, do you like him?
Drew
Of course. Yeah.
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Drew
When a game starts, you got to hear the minimum before everything.
Jay Bilas
It's like, part of. Made that shot.
Matt Jones
You know, it looked like he died. And then he goes.
Jay Bilas
The audacity. Like, he even uses bigger words. Astounding.
Guest Analyst
I love the fact, too, that Ian Eagle shut up and let Rafterty cook there for a minute.
Matt Jones
He did.
Jay Bilas
So did Grant Hill.
Guest Analyst
Yep.
Jay Bilas
They both kind of backed off. Let them cook.
Matt Jones
That's good stuff.
Drew
Most of the lines I think of in college basketball come from Raftery. Onions with the kiss off the glass.
Jay Bilas
All of them.
Drew
Yeah.
Jay Bilas
They're all him the lingerie on the deck.
Matt Jones
They're great. He's probably the most second most iconic next to vital in history.
Guest Analyst
Right?
Matt Jones
Vital is going to be number one.
Jay Bilas
Yeah. He's probably number two.
Matt Jones
Right.
Guest Analyst
And then Charles Barkley is probably sneaking up maybe number three.
Matt Jones
He's not even a college basketball guy, but he still is. All right. DraftKings you go bet $5. You bet wins. You can get $300 with the code KSR for March Madness. It is DraftKings KSR five bucks to $300 and remember the crown is yours if you have a game pro 1800 game or 18 plus Kentucky only eligibility supply betments will win receive bonus pets exp days minimum required additional turn responsible game resource sea sportsbook.draftkings.com promos Limited time offer Michigan Yukon who you got? Michigan is six and a half point favorite.
Guest Analyst
They win, they cover their. They're just on a roll right now. They met not one of the best teams we've seen in forever but one of the funnest to watch.
Drew
I wouldn't have said it before the weekend that they would blow out Yukon but what they did to Arizona, I think they're in for another big win tonight.
Matt Jones
Give me Yukon. Not necessarily to win, but this guy. They're not getting blown out.
Guest Analyst
Was Yaxel playing?
Matt Jones
Yes, the both guys are playing solo ball. Great name and Yaxel Both playing but UConn at least covers and it would not shock me if they win. You know my stat about the five
Jay Bilas
teams before the tournament. The only time I've ever been wrong are UConn teams. And now there might be another one. Michigan was one of my five. I didn't have UConn but so in the future it may just be these
Matt Jones
five teams and UConn.
Drew
I mean with the experience they have being there three out of the last four years, I mean that that will weigh in their favor. I mean a lot of the guys are new but they have some guys that played on those teams.
Matt Jones
All right, we will be back tomorrow. Neighbors Episode 6 Rick, you got that? Got it. And then we'll talk about the game and a lot more. Good to see you guys.
Drew
Welcome back.
Matt Jones
And now we go to this meeting. Big meeting today.
Guest Analyst
I dressed up.
Drew
You did?
Matt Jones
Yeah. Looks. You look great. See you later. That's KSI.
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Host: Matt Jones
Panel: Drew, Jay Bilas, Guest Analysts
Network: iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM)
The second hour of KSR centers on a lively, honest panel discussion about Kentucky basketball, the evolving college sports landscape, fan culture, NIL deals, NCAA transfer rules, and a surprise deep dive into the new HBO show "The Neighbors." The hosts cover UK vs. other blue bloods, social media’s effect on recruiting, recent NIL deals, and even a few lighter moments concerning baseball and pop culture.
(04:00–06:00)
"Anytime we have the conversation, it has to be Kentucky, Duke, Carolina, Kansas, and UConn... You definitely have to put UConn. There's no argument they're not in there."
— Matt Jones (05:47)
(07:07–18:18)
"If you're losing a player in the NIL age because of tweets, then they weren't coming here anyway."
— Matt Jones (16:58)
"The most passionate and best fans are here. Now if you live your life only online, it can seem like the world is falling apart, right? … But go outside, smell the flowers."
— Jay Bilas (13:26, 13:45)
(22:00–28:29)
"Let them sign contracts, then that'll fix it. But the NCAA doesn't want to do that."
— Jay Bilas (24:36)
"The ratings are higher than they've ever been. The games are higher than they've ever been. The money is high."
— Matt Jones (25:02)
(36:38–40:43)
"The proof is in do you get players... That's going to be the whole thing."
— Matt Jones (38:36)
(29:09–32:43)
"There are very few things at this stage of my life that make me go, 'whoa.' But when he got in that cart and started driving... That was a whoa."
— Matt Jones (32:09)
(34:09–36:32)
(45:13–48:34)
"He’s probably the most second most iconic next to Vitale in history."
— Matt Jones (48:29)
(49:10–50:05)
"It's an excuse to say that... When you're losing players, it's not because of that."
— Jay Bilas (12:20)
"If you only live in this circle of online, the hate is... can be bad. Now what I think happens with our players sometimes is they are perpetually online."
— Matt Jones (14:03–14:10)
"Winning cures everything."
— Guest Analyst (17:51)
The tone is direct, self-aware, humorous, sometimes exasperated—equal parts impassioned sports talk, critical self-reflection, and a celebration of UK sports fandom and culture.
This episode is a must-listen for Kentucky fans seeking frank talk on blue blood debates, NIL realities, the future of college sports, and local flavor—with a dose of TV recommendations and Kentucky sports humor throughout.