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welcome, everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, Tuesday, April 7th. I am Matt Jones here on a nice day in Lexington, Kentucky, where we are debuting, or at least I guess testing some new camera video equipment that could make this show look professional one day. I'm hearing good things. I can't see it because I'm on the other side of it. You guys can see it? Yes.
Ryan Lemond
I'm looking at the screen.
Matt Jones
It's crazy. Does it look good?
Ryan Lemond
Oh, yes. We're like, is this 4k or 5k?
Matt Jones
All right, well, good. I wish someone had told me I would have shaved and worn contacts today, but this stuff's not getting out today. But now, I mean, if it looks this good, I might have to not wear hoodies. I don't know. It could change my entire wardrobe.
Ryan Lemond
It's very high tech. And, like, when one of us starts talking, the camera automatically switches to that camera.
Matt Jones
Yeah. So apparently there's. There's AI in this, I'm told. By the way, the Clark's puppet shop Phone line is 859-280-2287. Avion Auto Glass Text Machine, 772-77-4-5254. In this dish and sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office called TJL Make Them Pay. I'm told that this, like Mario, when it's over, can say, give us the five, you know, or like when they were talking about Mark Pope, put together a clip and it can give him something to start from. So it actually leads to where he can put out more clips every day if he wants. So he, he's. It's made it to where he's gonna have to do more work, which is nice.
Ryan Lemond
It does the hard part for him though. He doesn't have to edit. Who's talking? Like, literally when Ryan started talking, a camera moved and it went to him and showed you in a split screen. So actually, Mario, you might be getting pushed out the door by this fancy equipment.
Matt Jones
Yeah, you got to train yourself for your replacement. So are these.
Ryan Lemond
Are these lights? These little lights right here? Is that what that is?
Matt Jones
They're gonna be lights and like everybody's. We're gonna look better. I'm. I'm looking forward to it. But this is a big day today. I mean, let's just. The portal opens. According to our wonderful president, civilization may end at 8 o' clock tonight. So there's a lot happening this morning.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. It's been nice working with you guys. World coming to an end tonight.
Matt Jones
I thought all we wanted was cheaper eggs and now we need. We need cheaper.
Ryan Lemond
Now we want cheaper gas.
Matt Jones
Well, let's just hope we get to that point. But we won't spend today. I don't want to make everybody enraged.
Ryan Lemond
It's transfer portal day.
Matt Jones
It is transfer portal day. I want to. We're going to talk a lot about it. Let's. Let's start though for a second with the game last night.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Because I think not so much that first of all, are we glad Michigan won?
Ryan Lemond
Yes. Avoided the worst case scenario.
Matt Jones
Yukon winning would have been bad.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. That's Michigan. That's fine. I mean. Well, they got two now. I mean, it stinks. A lot of those guys on the court last night were Kentucky targets and we finished second. But other than that, whatever, Michigan, congratulations.
Matt Jones
My takeaway in some ways is that that Michigan team was probably the vision of what Mark Pope hope would happen here. Right. They had five. So think about it. Second year coach.
Ryan Lemond
Yes.
Matt Jones
Right.
Ryan Lemond
Yes.
Matt Jones
They had five transfers. A lot of size. And I actually think Mark tried to get a lot of size. We had five bigs on the roster and even though guys got hurt and some people didn't, we had five bigs on the roster. A lot of size, very efficient. Offensively. We were not. But you're right, we recruited a couple of those guys. I mean, Yaxel.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
The point guard we looked at.
Ryan Lemond
Demery Mullins was probably.
Matt Jones
I'm just saying the court altogether.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Mullins both were people that we thought could end up here.
Ryan Lemond
They called the big guy who had such a big game, Mara from ucla. I don't know how close that got, but he's another one. We were watching last spring. There's really a moment I was looking at the court and I was like, I remember writing about most of these guys in Kentucky close.
Matt Jones
And depending on who you ask, Kentucky either spent the most money on their roster or some people think the second to Michigan just depends on who you ask. So as I sat there and watched it, I thought, all right, there's two ways you can look at this. You can look at this and go, oh, no. Like second year coach. We struggled all year and they got transfers and we got the wrong ones. And you can be like, well, we went in the wrong direction. Or you can say, Mark Pope had the right game plan, just the wrong execution. Which one would you all be in that regard?
Ryan Lemond
I think they didn't get heating at the right players.
Matt Jones
So you think right game plan, wrong.
Ryan Lemond
Right game plan, wrong execution.
Matt Jones
Still the right coach.
Ryan Lemond
Still the right coach.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Ryan Lemond
And I'm, you know, I'm holding out hope that this year he will get the right players. But even Yaxel, he was good coming out of uab. They had no idea he was going
Matt Jones
to be this good. Yeah, they did. He was a top transfer.
Ryan Lemond
He almost went to the draft.
Matt Jones
I mean, he. Well, okay, did they think he was going to be a first team all American, Right? I mean, maybe not, but I mean, I bet that was Michigan's hope.
Ryan Lemond
Yes.
Matt Jones
I mean, he was the number one
Ryan Lemond
player in the portal and Mara took a step up.
Matt Jones
Now he definitely is better. I think the people thought he would be.
Ryan Lemond
And Cadot took a big step. North Carolina kind of threw him away. And then he ends up being most outstanding player in the final four.
Matt Jones
Yeah, yeah. That wouldn't have been predicted.
Ryan Lemond
I saw it as Pope saw the right people because, I mean, he targeted a lot of these guys. Just didn't get over the hustle. So I believe he can spot them.
Matt Jones
We got to get them, though. I agree with you on that. I mean, he did with Yaxel. Demery Mullins clearly wanted these guys, all of whom had quite a bit of success, but he didn't get any of them. And so what do we make of that? Do we make of it? Can he get them in the future? We certainly spent the money, but we just didn't get them.
Ryan Lemond
Yaxel said they offered him, what, 79 million, remember?
Matt Jones
I don't believe him. I don't believe that either. I mean, I'm on Pope side on that. I don't believe Kentucky offered anybody seven to nine. First of all, it would be ludicrous for him to take. We don't know what his life is going to be like.
Caller Joey
He.
Matt Jones
You, you Said he's projected a draft. He may not play in the. I mean, he, he probably will play in the NBA, but he might not. It would be insane to, to. To not take this. I don't believe that. I'm. I'm on Popes. I think that's me, too.
Ryan Lemond
And I said at the time, 7 to 9 million is not an offer. 7 to 9 million is a $9 million offer.
Matt Jones
Yeah, exactly.
Ryan Lemond
It's a big range that he threw out.
Matt Jones
You can't go, you know what? All right, I'll take seven. I know you give me nine, but I'll take seven. So. I'm glad Michigan won UConn now six times. We still have a two title lead on UConn. With Danny Hurley still relatively young, we might need it.
Ryan Lemond
That's the thing. UConn doesn't get their seventh, but more importantly, Danny Hurley doesn't get his third in four years. He would have been unbearable.
Matt Jones
And then Dusty May, you know, I mean, I want you to think about Dusty May for a second because Dusty May. Louisville. Louisville insiders were posting that they were preparing the press conference for Dusty May at Law. Like they had a time and were ready. And Dusty May last night in the post game said Louisville Vandy and Michigan wanted me. He said, I initially was more interested in one. I'm going to assume he means Louisville and he goes. And then I just decided I can win the national championship at Michigan. Implication, I don't know if I can win it. Louisville. That's, you know, so we were close to having that dude down the road.
Ryan Lemond
Ouch.
Matt Jones
That would be.
Ryan Lemond
It'd be a problem.
Matt Jones
If you're a Louisville fan, you'd be kind of sick. For us, we had no chance at him because Cal hadn't left yet. Right. I mean, we had done the reconciliation interview. Taking his dog down the street in the stroller.
Ryan Lemond
Forgot all about that.
Matt Jones
Like we were still doing all that. So we had no chance. He was already hired at Michigan when the job came over. But it is interesting, just as a sort of thought exercise, you know, after we lost Oakland, what if they'd moved immediately? We still would have owed that money, which means I don't think they could. But for Louisville, you'd be sick.
Caller Joe
Right.
Matt Jones
And Pat Kelsey may still end up being good, but you'd be sick.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, they had him. Thought they had him. They probably didn't think there'd be a championship two years later, but a big loss for them. And watching that game last night, I kept thinking about. And I posted a picture we went and saw Michigan the year before Dusty May got hired. That Indiana game, it was pretty empty in the picture. I tweeted me and Ryan looked to be the only people standing up caring about what's going on. I think they won three conference games that year. And it just shows how immediate things can turn around with the right hire and the right portal additions. Because what we saw was not a program on heading towards a tournament.
Matt Jones
And it also shows something that I think fans need to remember. In the Portal era, you're never like, the program is never going to be in a place where it can't recover. You can recover overnight.
Ryan Lemond
Sure you can.
Matt Jones
Now, I mean, you got to have the right hire. Right.
Ryan Lemond
That's the beauty of the Portal.
Matt Jones
But you can recover overnight.
Ryan Lemond
Yep.
Matt Jones
You can go out there and in two years. I mean, last year he made the sweet 16. This year they win the national championship. You can do it.
Ryan Lemond
Yep.
Matt Jones
And I also think UConn shows that the idea that Blue Bloods are done is false. I do think we've learned, and we'll talk about Carolina later. Blue Bloods have a harder time just picking whatever coach they want now, but Blue Bloods still have an advantage. Yeah, I believe they still have an advantage, and we need to take advantage of our advantage. Which gets. Which gets. Which gets me to Portal stuff. So, Malachi Moreno, if you listen to the show, we told you exactly what was going to happen coming back to Kentucky. But going through the draft process, I expect him to play at Kentucky absent something crazy good news. What was interesting is in Jack Pilgrim's report says took less than the highest offers to come back so that Kentucky could build a team around him. What do you make of that?
Ryan Lemond
Surprising that in this era, someone would take a little bit of a pay cut to go.
Matt Jones
We don't know. Do we know how much?
Ryan Lemond
I don't know how much, but, you know, Malachi immediately posted on Instagram a picture of him. A kid in UK gear said, I've always been a cat. You know, we all know the stories from right down the road. It showed that, you know, some of that stuff still matters. Certainly Malachi's case, but it's not all money. We like to think it's just signed on the dotted line. But he clearly wants to be at UK and luckily worked out in UK's favor that way.
Matt Jones
Now, Mr. Alan Keck for governor shirt.
Caller Joe
Wow.
Ryan Lemond
It's a throwback.
Matt Jones
I mean, Somerset, right? I have to be the only person in the world that is still wearing that shirt. His wife still Wearing Alan Keck, but he ran three years ago and came in third in the primary. Or fourth.
Ryan Lemond
I think it's a very comfortable hoodie.
Matt Jones
How long are you going to keep rocking that?
Ryan Lemond
Well, like I said, it's kind of soft, and I'm going to pull it out of the closet. Oh, this feels good. So I think I'll keep it till he runs for president.
Matt Jones
I'm trying to think of what would be a more random shirt. Like, what other fourth place primary governor shirts could you see out there?
Ryan Lemond
I was gonna surprise you.
Matt Jones
Maybe a Pepe Martin for Governor shirt.
Ryan Lemond
I tried to find my Kelly Craft for Governor T shirt to wear underneath this hoodie.
Matt Jones
You're the only person who endorsed every candidate.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And you also endorsed Andy Beshear.
Ryan Lemond
I did, yeah. Huh. Yeah.
Matt Jones
You give him a T shirt and you like Ryan Quarles?
Ryan Lemond
I wear my Ryan Quarles T shirt a lot.
Matt Jones
So you have a T shirt for him too?
Ryan Lemond
Yes. Yeah. So you and Mike Harmon.
Matt Jones
Mike Harmon didn't run for governor, did he?
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, that one year he was up there on the podium on the debate.
Matt Jones
It was the same year.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, same year.
Matt Jones
So wasn't something the data.
Ryan Lemond
Feed the data, Steal the data.
It wasn't steal the data.
Matt Jones
I think that would be a weird primary campaign. Steal the data. I believe there were five Republican candidates. You endorsed four of the five.
Ryan Lemond
I did, yes.
Matt Jones
You didn't endorse Daniel Cameron.
Ryan Lemond
Correct. Because he didn't show up.
Matt Jones
He didn't want to come to the
Ryan Lemond
debate, and he didn't give me clothes. You gave me a shirt I'm wearing. I wear that Ryan Quarles T shirt a lot.
Matt Jones
And then you also endorse Andy Beshear, the Democrat.
Ryan Lemond
I did.
Matt Jones
So I won five of the six,
Ryan Lemond
but I got the winner. I supported the winner.
Matt Jones
True. All right. You hinted all year, like, just be respectful to Malachi. That was your thing.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Did you kind of know that he would be willing to go under market value as long as it was respectful?
Ryan Lemond
I think he just wanted to feel wanted and feel respected and feel like you want me a part of this. Because he wanted. Like Drew said he wanted to be a part of this. I think he just wanted to feel the same from the other side. And I think there were some hurt feelings there for a little while that he wasn't feeling that love, that respect, that need.
Matt Jones
But I guess it came. It came. Respect comes for sure. Yes.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
As do your shirts.
Ryan Lemond
I like to think he goes to his closet and it's just a bunch of politician shirts.
Matt Jones
You know how, like, they send super bowl loser shirts to Africa? They send political loser shirts. Shirts to ride is one, like, formal ones.
Ryan Lemond
You know, today, radio, maybe you work out and your Kelly craft shirt, you wear your coral shirt.
Matt Jones
10 different versions of Amy McGrath shirts for all the reaction she runs for.
Ryan Lemond
I, I really put my. Threw my hat in totally for Alan Keck because he gave me the hoodie. The other guy just gave me a T shirt. Alan Keck brought me a hoodie to Waffle House that one night.
You're going to get loaded up with more gear from whoever's running.
Matt Jones
Nick.
Ryan Lemond
Nate Morris is knocking on the door right now.
Matt Jones
I, I was thinking about this. You know, this congressional spot in Lexington is now open, right? Like Andy Barr woke Andy Barr or whatever they call each other on those ads. He's running for Senate. So it's open. So there's like five Republicans and five Democrats running. And I just realized I don't know who they are. Oh. And if I don't know who they are, there's no way the general public knows. Right? So Ryan's closet could decide the winner.
Ryan Lemond
Okay.
Matt Jones
You could literally end up with your spring war.
Ryan Lemond
I'm open for debate.
He loves an election year. It's when he gets a new wardrobe.
Matt Jones
We'll take a break. More on Kentucky players coming and going and then some portal targets. There are already 1000 players in the portal.
Ryan Lemond
My goodness.
Matt Jones
We'll take a break. Great bags. Ksr.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280228. Said we are going to take calls so go ahead and get in the phones. 859-2802-287. One person writes Matt, watching the game last night, I was just sitting there thinking there's no way we could have played with either of these teams. I think we could have played with UConn in a one game scenario. I mean we could have. There's a world we could have played with him. I don't think there was a world that we would. We would have more than like a miracle game beaten Michigan.
Ryan Lemond
I agree. I think I even text a few people that looks like a fun sport they're playing out there.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
It was also very physical. Kentucky in a game that physical wouldn't have stood a chance.
Matt Jones
Now you are did a good job
Ryan Lemond
of roughing it up early.
Matt Jones
That that was very physical. And the ref had the high knees.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, the high knee guy, he was.
Matt Jones
I like that he go down.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And he got popped right back.
Ryan Lemond
It's all that training.
Matt Jones
It's all the training. High knee. I love that the high knees guy got his time in the sun.
Ryan Lemond
Do you notice one of the other referees was the one you got frustrated with at the Iowa State Kentucky game? Bald. The bald one.
Matt Jones
Oh, the bald guy. He was on there.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, he was in the final four
Matt Jones
where his pants mockworthy again looked a little.
Ryan Lemond
Little.
Matt Jones
All right. Diabate in the portal. I said yesterday they were basically haggling over price. I guess the haggling didn't work. Yeah, I'm.
Ryan Lemond
I loved what Diabate did. He was fun. There's not many dudes that can bring that physicality and toughness. But you know, with Pope's offense, he needs a shooter in that spacing. So seeing him go, would I have liked him back? Sure. As a six man. But I'm hopeful Pope can go find something better that fits the puzzle a little more than Diabate did. I think that was part of the problem last year is Pope over correct. Overcorrected with defense and didn't have enough shooters.
Yeah. After his first year in the conference, he said I need to go out and get somebody like Mo Diabatte on my team. We went out and got Diabate, he was the only one who brought the toughness most of the season.
Matt Jones
I think Diabate could have been someone you brought back, but you couldn't bring him back at $2 million a year.
Ryan Lemond
Right.
Matt Jones
See, here's one of the things I think you're going to see interesting in the port. There are going to be guys who teams would like to have that other teams are willing to pay top dollar for that. You want to pay third or fourth dollar. So there was somebody I just saw that got in the portal. Who was it? Jacob just did a story and it was like, Kentucky and Duke want him, but Baylor and LSU are willing to make them their top guy. I think you're going to see that. So, sure, you're going to see guys who probably would rather play for Kentucky or Duke, but Kentucky and Duke can only offer half the money because Baylor and LSU are going to build the team around this.
Ryan Lemond
Right.
And a lot of these guys like Diabate, it is their last year to make big money. I mean, the NBA probably. Yeah. They'll end up overseas making decent money. This is your last shot to make
Matt Jones
a couple million playing basketball is. Diabate may be like, all right, I can go to a team and be the second highest paid. I'd be the fifth or sixth highest paid on Kentucky, so I can't do that.
Caller Joe
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And I get that, especially for somebody, you're right. Like him, who's probably not going to play. All right, so the. The portal is now open. All right. And so the question is, who's Kentucky going after now? Let me. I'm going to do. I want to give, like, a little context for everybody that's listening at home and, you know, seeing this when you see it online. This staff has taken a unique approach, in my opinion, to how information gets out about players. I will tell you what most staffs do, and then I'll tell you what it seems like Pope staff is doing. Most staffs believe that the best way to get good information on the portal is to sort of use reporters, both national and local, kind of as sounding boards. What do the national and local reporters want? Well, they want information, right. For their people. What do the coaches want? They want information on what other schools are doing and who's paying for what. And these reporters in this new portal world are kind of playing important roles. They talk to the agents, they talk to the coaches, they talk to the players, and they kind of give each other information. So, for instance, you know, take Modia Bate, Mark Pope or someone on his staff would Go to a reporter. All right. How much does his agent say? Anyone? He's saying he wants to see my offering him two. Well, I'm hearing Baylor will offer him to. Okay, well, we're not going to go past one. And they're almost like middlemen. Would you agree with this?
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And the national guys especially, I think play a huge role in this, this and some local guys, but the national guys really do. Your Joe Tipton, et cetera, Kentucky staff. And they did, they did not do this the first year. The first year they kind of used those people. Last year they really didn't. I would argue that's why they sometimes ended up paying too much and too little. And this year it's looking like they're not going to again. So my point is to say to you when we talk about players on the Kentucky side, at least I can tell you it's hard to know what Mark Pope wants because Mark Pope's people as of this point really aren't saying much. You're now hearing it from the agent. So when you see stories, it's mostly coming from the agents. When you see a story Mark Pope's going to talk to this player, for the most part it's coming from the player. Because for the second straight year UK is kind of taking the view we're doing our own thing now. Maybe it'll work. I think last year it caused them to not understand the market. Hopefully with the addition of the guy,
Ryan Lemond
the new whatever, Keegan Brown, the dorm,
Matt Jones
maybe more of what all is going on. And I hope that's true. So I just think that's important to know until you kind of hear me otherwise say, I don't think we still have a whole lot of idea of what UK wants. With one exception. I think it's fairly clear that this kid from LSU is one of Pope's two top targets for a point guard. Thomas Dean.
Ryan Lemond
Thomas.
Matt Jones
Dean Thomas played at LSU left handed, right. Remember we had all those plays for left handed.
Ryan Lemond
Got a couple of left handed targets on the portal board. Maybe we're running back. The left handed place.
Matt Jones
He must like the lefties. Was really good last year when he played. Led the SEC in assists when he played. Was probably the second best point guard in the league when he played. But then he was out because he hurt his foot and was out the last half of the year. Did he play against us? No, I don't think he did. Yeah, because he was hurt and then didn't.
Ryan Lemond
I think the injury might have shortly before our game.
Matt Jones
I. My View Drew is if the kid is healthy, he's exact. He's kind of what I would want at point guard. I wish he shot a little bit better, but his assist. His assist turnover ratio was great, but he wasn't healthy. So do you run it back for a third straight year and cross your fingers on a healthy point guard?
Ryan Lemond
I really like him. And Kentucky recruited him before low last year and they did the stories of his, you know, they did the Zoom and he loves Pope and he loves Kentucky, and then he went to lsu and then Kentucky ends up low. So we know there's already a connection there in recruitment. I don't love going after an injured gal. What you've been through, regardless of his game, because I think he's really good. I don't think you can just go get another injured person and then next year if it goes wrong, be like, well, we got injured again.
Matt Jones
If I promised you he was healthy, would you.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, I like him if he's healthy.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Ryan Lemond
He was great at unlv.
Matt Jones
Just how much risk, like, how much are you willing to risk an injury? How much are you willing to risk,
Ryan Lemond
Ryan, like I said, after the Jaden Quaint experience, had a little gun shy.
Matt Jones
Maybe he hurt his foot. Foot's heel. Yeah, I think. I mean, Kentucky is talking to him, I believe, actually, as we speak. So just something to watch. But we might have another. Please don't get injured.
Ryan Lemond
Another gamble.
Matt Jones
We'll see. We'll take a break. Take a call. Right. For this ksr. Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio. All right, stuff's going to continue to happen throughout the show and throughout the next couple of days. Dev. Devin Vanderp pool from Florida Atlantic, Kentucky is meeting with today via Zoom. He's a guard from Florida Atlantic. Normally, I would not know anyone from Florida Atlantic or schools like that, but Tom Crean was on KS or on ESPN with me one Sunday, and he asked me, he was like, will you watch Florida Atlantic versus South Florida? I'm calling the game today. And I was. Because he asked, what are you doing today? I'm like, nothing. He goes, watch this game. So I felt like I owed it to him.
Ryan Lemond
Sure.
Matt Jones
And I watched a half. So I've watched this kid for one half, but in that half, he was the best player on the floor.
Ryan Lemond
There we go.
Matt Jones
And I was like, all right, that kid's good. And I could tell Cream loved him. So he's a guard, and he's probably the second person I know for a fact Kentucky's talking to today. There are others I'm sure. But those are the ones that I know.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, I'd be lying if I said I watched any Florida Atlantic basketball this year.
Matt Jones
No problem.
Ryan Lemond
But it's just box score watching. He's had some huge games, scored a lot of points, keeps his turnovers down. Good rebounder. I mean, he's got the numbers.
Matt Jones
Yeah, he's a great score. He could be like, I don't know if he's a dude, but he's close to a dude. Like, he. I definitely would love to have that guy. All right, so let's go to the phones. I want to ask people the injury stuff, etc. Plus, Rick, just as kind of a tease, you did watch Neighbors episode six, I hear.
Ryan Lemond
Yes, I did. Oh, I can't wait to hear Rick.
Matt Jones
Wait for his opinion.
Ryan Lemond
Also not surprised. He did his homework.
Matt Jones
That's Rick.
Ryan Lemond
Rick's big show.
Matt Jones
I know, but, like. Well, I don't. I want to hear anything. I just want to get his natural. It's a natural episode. I want to get his natural. Yeah, it's about as natural as you can get, that's for sure. All right, let's go to Jordan. Rick Jordan, go ahead.
Caller Joe
Hey, Matt. So, you know, kind of touching on what you were speaking on with, you know, Dan Thomas from lsu. He is a good player when he plays, and he's actually a guard that I would. I would like for us to have. I am a little leery about the injury thing, but for me, I think Hammer Vanderpool is actually good options. But the guy that I really, really want and I would do anything for us to land is Donnie Freeman from Syracuse. I want that guy to be our four so bad, and I would do anything to get well.
Matt Jones
I know. I know Kentucky has. I appreciate the call. At least made contact with him. I don't know how interested he is. I mean, there's going to be a million guys come in. There's probably guys coming in. We don't even know yet. But, you know, he's. He's very good. So I want to go back to the injury for a second. Do you consider being injured? So he was just a foot injury.
Ryan Lemond
Right.
Matt Jones
Do you consider that like a trait that continues to happen, or do you just say, well, that was a random occurrence. Ligaments and knees are different to me. But what about just a random foot
Ryan Lemond
injury on Thomas and, you know, being healthy next year?
Matt Jones
Yeah,
Ryan Lemond
I would just. I hate the idea of next December we get well, we're injured again. When you went out and got a guy coming off the circle. It could, but, like, if, you know, a guy just said sir, and I would like Thomas. I mean, if he shows up, I will be happy.
Matt Jones
But in the back of my mind,
Ryan Lemond
I'm like, we can't keep saying the injury thing and then going out and getting guys that coming off surgery.
Matt Jones
So if you're Mark Pope and you have to. You got to be good next year.
Ryan Lemond
Have to make or break year, I think, for him. Would you.
Matt Jones
Would you risk it with a guy like that? I'm.
Ryan Lemond
I'm not turning him down, but I'm also making other calls to filling out everybody.
Matt Jones
Let's say he said on the phone, today, I'll come, but I. But today's the day. By tomorrow, I'll be somewhere else. If you don't want me. Are you. Are you get him in for a physical? Well, I don't know. Are you?
Ryan Lemond
Probably take it at his best. He'll. He'll be one of the best guards
Matt Jones
available, like at health right now, just so people know. Ranked the third best point guard in the portal, so it's not like he's some chump. He's the third best point guard, 11th best player in the Portal now that those.
Ryan Lemond
The.
Matt Jones
The. The. The. It'll go down as new guys enter, but he will finish as a top 8 to 10 point guard in the portal, without question. Maybe top 5 to 6.
Ryan Lemond
I take him and add lots of depth.
Matt Jones
I don't.
Ryan Lemond
I don't rely on him the whole year.
Matt Jones
You don't rely on him. And then just this guy.
Ryan Lemond
You cannot. If. If he were to. If you take him. If he were to get hurt, nobody wants to hear, oh, we got hurt again because you knew the circumstances, like with Queen.
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Matt Jones
What would you. Would you roll the dice?
Ryan Lemond
See, like you said, to make a break year for coach Pope, and it begins and ends with the point guard. He's got to have a good point guard. I think his legacy may depend on this point guard for this season.
Matt Jones
So are you risking it? No. So you're going to look at the kid and go, no, and then you're going to hope something else better comes?
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
All right. Part of me. Split decision, split decision.
Ryan Lemond
Part of me saying take him is I don't know if Pope can. I don't know where Pope is with the other guards. We know last year he didn't get his first, second, or third option.
Matt Jones
Probably first four options. Well, no, Jay. Jaylen Lowe was one of his first, but he probably had four options, and he struck out with three. He still Liked low.
Ryan Lemond
So I don't know how picky Pope can be because I don't know his other conversation I would take.
Matt Jones
Know if he has, like, the money saved for, you know, someone. Was somebody on with Tom Leach today and said, we're leading now with Tyron Stokes. Did I read that?
Ryan Lemond
I didn't hear it.
Matt Jones
Anybody listen to Tom Leach today?
Ryan Lemond
I heard some pieces. I did not hear that part.
Matt Jones
Message that someone was on with Tom Leach and said that. But I don't know who the someone was. And I also don't know if that actually happened. So this is if anyone listens to Tom. Sure, someone. But one of you listen to Tom Leach right on the text machine and let me know who was on.
Ryan Lemond
I'm trying to play it back in my head. You know, I'm a big. Listen Tom in the shower.
Matt Jones
Mike.
Ryan Lemond
The course Mike was on Fridays.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Ryan Lemond
And, yeah, I honestly couldn't tell you.
Matt Jones
If somebody knows, I would like to know because I did hear. I got a random text message from somebody going, did you hear some. Somebody was on Tom Leach and said, tyrone Stokes is Kentucky. But I know.
Ryan Lemond
I know he had had Jenna from the Colonel. I heard that part. I don't think she mentioned Stokes. There might have been another segment lifting from the Colonel.
Matt Jones
They wasn't her.
Ryan Lemond
I'm saying no, I could have missed it. I'm in and out. You know, I'm getting ready for our show.
Matt Jones
And Tom, things you need to know. You should be up scouting the Tom Leach Show. Joey, go ahead. Joey?
Caller Joey
Yes. Is that. Are you talking to me?
Matt Jones
Is your name Joey?
Caller Joey
Yeah, but I don't. I don't remember giving you all my name. But anyway, I must have.
Matt Jones
Well, no, it pops up sometimes, so even if you didn't like. If you like, it comes up and you're Joey. I know your phone number. I mean, I'm not going to call you, but I could.
Caller Joey
Okay, well, when you accepted my call, I'm. Hello? Hello? Hello? And then I just. Was just hanging, so. Good. Okay, now I know what. What can happen. I cheered. Yeah, I cheered back in 1978 when we won the NCAA championship in St. Louis. I'm calling because you had a brief conversation about the candidates to replace McConnell.
Matt Jones
I don't want to talk about. I don't want to do that. Are we talking about the congressional candidates?
Caller Joey
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I cheered. Nate Morris's dad was a cheerleader with me at uk.
Matt Jones
Well, that's. Okay. Well, good. I'm glad.
Caller Joey
I just thought I. Yeah. Back in 1978. And that's all I'm gonna say.
Matt Jones
You know, he's woke. He's woke Nate Morris and fake Nate Morris, according to commercials that run every six seconds on the television screen.
Caller Joey
I know. And he probably might have to do with all that money.
Matt Jones
That's enough. That's pudding. I was just making a joke. I appreciate the call. I was just making a joke, not making any. He may be the nicest guy. I've just. It was joke because they run those ads all the time. Does Daniel Cameron ever run an ad?
Ryan Lemond
I've not seen one.
That's the way to go.
Matt Jones
I think it's a great strategy.
Ryan Lemond
I'm the guy. If I see your ad too much,
Matt Jones
not even think about you, he's like, there's three of us, but you forget I'm here. I think it's good strategy.
Ryan Lemond
Tom Leach had Travis Branham. I didn't hear that.
Matt Jones
Travis Branham. What did Travis Branham say?
Ryan Lemond
Well, I didn't hear that. I just know who his guests were. So maybe Travis said, oh, so it
Matt Jones
could have been Larry Vaught.
Ryan Lemond
I heard most of Larry. I heard Larry and Jenna. I didn't hear Travis.
Matt Jones
Larry has Tyrone.
Ryan Lemond
And I feel like if Travis said it, that'd be big news. But I'm just letting you know.
Matt Jones
Okay, wait. Who the leech?
Ryan Lemond
Guess is.
Matt Jones
There we go. Tom Leach to the source. Tom Leach said Travis Branham was on the show and he thinks Stokes is going to Kansas. Okay, so I got the exact opposite.
Ryan Lemond
Sorry I missed the first segment. Tom.
Matt Jones
Tom.
Ryan Lemond
The rest was great.
Matt Jones
Thank you very much. So just ignore. This is why you got to be careful about random text message. But see, we got to the source.
Ryan Lemond
That's right.
Matt Jones
Can't get a better source than Tom Leach.
Ryan Lemond
It's his show, for crying out his names in the title.
Matt Jones
What did Larry Vaughn say?
Ryan Lemond
Oh, great things.
Matt Jones
Joe. Go ahead, Joe.
Caller Joe
Thank you, gentlemen. Matt, I'm. I'm really interested in everything Mark Pope is doing in his third year, But I also look at the other side of the coin. I know coach Brooks of our ladies program is going into his third year also. And my question to you, Matt, and I really don't expect an answer because I don't think you probably know either. You think coach Brooks has enough money. If a number top five girl in the girl transfer portal was available, he would have enough money to go get.
Matt Jones
My number one worry about coach Brooks is there are. There's scuttlebutt out there that Virginia is trying to hire him.
Ryan Lemond
Can't have that.
Matt Jones
So my number one recruit is. Let's not have that happen because that. That chatter is out there. Now. I don't know if there's anything to it, but that chatter is out there on the Virginia sides. I'm going to.
Ryan Lemond
Let's just.
Caller Joe
I'm not scared. I'm not scared because Virginia.
Caller Joey
I just.
Caller Joe
I just asked you a question. You think he has enough money?
Matt Jones
If you. If you think he has enough money, you'd be. Wouldn't you be upset if we lost our coach?
Caller Joe
There's plenty more coaches out there. What are you worried about?
Matt Jones
Kitty Brooks is pretty good.
Ryan Lemond
I'm not in on that.
Matt Jones
I appreciate the call. I'm all in on Kitty Brooks. So do. Does. Do they have money? It's a great question, actually. I do think UK's women's program has money to get players. I'm not sure they have money to get, like, the number one recruit in the portal, but I do think they have money because there is a dedicated stream of money of donors of UK women who give for UK women.
Ryan Lemond
Okay.
Matt Jones
I don't know if it's enough to get, like, who South Carolina, Texas and UConn can get, but I think they're in there to compete at the next tier.
Ryan Lemond
I mean, right now we have three McDonald's, all Americans and Claire Strack coming back. That's a great roster.
Matt Jones
And that might be, like, they just. That's what they need. They're like, we're good, except one or two supporting pieces.
Ryan Lemond
Virginia women's basketball. Apparently the founder of Reddit loves them and just gives them a lot of money. And I can only assume he's very rich.
Matt Jones
Yeah. So I'm. I'm actually more concerned about that because I have no idea if he's interested, but, like, he's a Virginia guy, you know, So I just think you get
Ryan Lemond
to the sec, Memorial's awesome, but then
Matt Jones
that you can make the other case, which is you go to the ACC and you could dominate the conference. And if you're at a place unlike Virginia Tech, where he was, that actually has a lot of money.
Ryan Lemond
So he got Virginia Tech to the Final Four. What could he do with Virginia and the guy from Reddit?
Matt Jones
Exactly. Well, we don't have a guy from Reddit, but we have, like, who do we have?
Ryan Lemond
The guy from farc, Drew Curtis.
Matt Jones
He's in Lexington. Do you like women's basketball, Drew from ksr?
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
I think I saw that there was a thing story about the richest people in Kentucky. I think we've talked about this once but I forget, you know we always mention the crafts and they have to be. I'm sure they're in the top two or three. But the thing that said that the richest person Kentucky was like a woman with storage units or something?
Ryan Lemond
I can't think of the exact company but she's like the heir to a big storage fortune.
Matt Jones
Big storage units could. Can you like it's like the only multi billionaire in the state is a storage unit person.
Ryan Lemond
You don't think about it but go for a drive around Lexington, you can't go a mile without seeing a storage unit.
Matt Jones
So they all owned by this woman just walking around storing things.
Ryan Lemond
I don't know all of them, but what a way to strike rich. Does she like women's basketball?
Matt Jones
Well, she likes to store things. How about we store some championship?
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, let's store some money.
Matt Jones
Know who this person is with her?
Ryan Lemond
I've read millions, millions of stories about
Matt Jones
her on the list. And doesn't she live in like, like a small town? Doesn't she lives in like Stanford or something? Doesn't she.
Ryan Lemond
Something like that. I'll pull it up. But yeah, she's the richest person in Kentucky.
Matt Jones
Last time they always have the richest person in Kentucky as being this woman with her storage.
Ryan Lemond
Like Drew said, they're everywhere, every street corner in town.
Tamara gustavson. Gustavson worth 9.1 billion. Her father was B. Wayne Hughes and started all this.
Matt Jones
So she just like her money is in storage.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, the public storage is the name of the company. They very direct with their name too.
Matt Jones
Yeah, well they tell you exactly what they are.
Ryan Lemond
No question what they got going on there.
Matt Jones
What are they doing over there? Public storage.
Ryan Lemond
They fix bicycles?
Matt Jones
No.
Ryan Lemond
That's a lot of money. She should take an interest in UK athletics. Yeah.
Matt Jones
Would you like to be the wife
Ryan Lemond
sitting by the hammer on the floor?
Matt Jones
Is she single? We'll take a break. Very max case.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back Techie Sports Radio. 859-280-2287 couple of one lines. All right, so this woman Gustafson owns. Her dad owns Spin Thrift Farm Spendthrift Farms, which now she owns. She is one of the richest women in the world.
Ryan Lemond
Congratulations.
Matt Jones
And we got to get her involved.
Ryan Lemond
KSR presented by Public Storage has a nice ring to it.
Matt Jones
I had no idea there was so much money in storage like that. Seems like that would be a pretty easy gig. You just build it then like all right, put your stuff in there.
Ryan Lemond
We'll make sure there's some AC if you pay for it.
Matt Jones
Yeah, we'll lock the chain, we'll lock the gate.
Ryan Lemond
Like put up a few cameras like that.
Matt Jones
Feels like that's why we not doing that.
Ryan Lemond
I've had to use a storage unit before. It might have even been her brand.
Matt Jones
I mean I ran out of room
Ryan Lemond
for her to make.
Matt Jones
I don't have enough stuff in there for that.
Ryan Lemond
Have that much money off that many storage units.
Matt Jones
Somebody says they're big USC donors, that her dad was connected to O.J.
Ryan Lemond
i don't know if we brag on that.
Just keeps going. Yeah. She went to usc.
Matt Jones
Oh, so they donate to usc. Well, I feel like if they donate to usc, that's so far away. She should have one team that's close. Yes. One team far, one team close.
Ryan Lemond
The people in LA aren't storing their furniture in Lexington. What about the people here?
Matt Jones
We got. We got things to store. Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
Our junk is in your facilities.
Matt Jones
Yeah. She could pick a sport here. I got. Think it'd be perfect. Women's basketball. She can root for usc football, uk, women's basketball. Every good. I don't understand the guy who like act like it wouldn't be a big deal if Kenny Brooks. It'd be a huge deal.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, that was weird.
Matt Jones
He just took us to the Sweet
Ryan Lemond
16 for the first time in 10 years.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I mean, we've been good. We were awful when he got here.
Ryan Lemond
And if he leaves, he's taking Clara strack and those McDonald's all Americans with him.
Matt Jones
No one's leaving. Don't listen to that guy.
Ryan Lemond
We're going to get this public storage money into Kenny's hands by sundown.
Matt Jones
By sundown. You know, I mean, because you don't want to have happen. If you've been reading what's happened to Tennessee women's team. They have like no players. None like I. So we had this woman on. What's the woman with the big southern accent that does women's game? She does a lot of Kentucky games. I like her.
Ryan Lemond
She's really good.
Matt Jones
We had her on my ESPN show Sunday to preview the national championship game. I cannot remember now. I think it's Carolyn maybe, but she'll be like, Carolyn Peck. Yes. How did you know that?
Ryan Lemond
She was an assistant coach here. Oh yeah, she was assistant coach.
Matt Jones
The things you know.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Like you were able to pull Carolyn Peck.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah. She was an assistant coach at the uk.
Matt Jones
Alan Keck shirt.
Caller Joe
Uh huh.
Ryan Lemond
Maybe under Bernadette. She may have been one of Bernadette's assistants.
Matt Jones
You're unbelievable.
Ryan Lemond
And then she was the head coach at Purdue.
Matt Jones
Vandy.
Ryan Lemond
Vandy. And she was at Purdue at one time.
Matt Jones
He knows her whole resume.
Ryan Lemond
I have the resume. He's reading it.
Matt Jones
Carolyn Peck trading card.
Ryan Lemond
I tell you one more. She was the first coach of the Connecticut sun when the WNBA opened.
Matt Jones
Look it up.
Ryan Lemond
I think. I think that might be a whiff. I think you went too far.
Matt Jones
Pushed your luck.
Ryan Lemond
It was. Bernadette was with Connecticut Sun.
How about the Orlando Miracle?
Matt Jones
Close enough.
Ryan Lemond
Close enough.
Matt Jones
Unbelievable. Anyway, Ryan's favorite Carolyn Peck was on my show and she was ranting about how Tennessee's athletic department has just allowed you Tennessee women's basketball to fall apart. They won't spend any nil money on it because they're only spending it on football, basketball and baseball. And the whole school has transferred and was like, this is one of the saddest things Tennessee women's basketball, the most historic program is being allowed to just collapse. And she was talking about it. And then I saw someone yesterday was talking about the same thing that basically Tennessee's just decided we don't care about the lady Balls anymore.
Ryan Lemond
It's crazy because the court is named Pat Summit Court.
Matt Jones
Arena's basketball. You think Of Tennessee and Yukon.
Ryan Lemond
Absolutely.
Matt Jones
That's who you think of Tennessee and UConn and that they're just letting it. So, I mean, we can't. My point of all that. Say we can't let that happen. We've got a potential guy here in Kenny Brooks, and we can't lose it to uva.
Ryan Lemond
No.
And you got an open door with Tennessee having nothing. I mean, the league is still tough, but Tennessee's not.
Matt Jones
South Carolina's probably kind of replaced Tennessee in the issue is good. But now it's you in Texas.
Ryan Lemond
But we talk about Blue Buds for the guys. Tennessee's a blue blood for the women.
Matt Jones
I cannot believe how much you knew about Carol.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
Matt Jones
You also called BS because somebody wrote in and said that the woman owned 10 Derby winter horses and you were very angry about that.
Ryan Lemond
In the break, I threw the BS flag. There's no way Spendthrift Farm has 10
started cussing on the Internet. Say they, like, trained them. But, you know, horses have to go somewhere after they win the Derby. Maybe they're just all chilling and spin.
I look at their stallion list that where the.
Matt Jones
The retired people got the retired horses go to chill.
Ryan Lemond
Well, they have Old Friends Farm out there.
Matt Jones
But that's not on Spin Thrift.
Ryan Lemond
No.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Ryan Lemond
We're big fans. Old Friends.
Matt Jones
Yeah. We do their thing every year. Who knew? Again, Ryan's brain. Just Carolyn Peck's resume. That's the thing. All right, we'll do more portal. And then we got to talk about another Facebook post. That's next here on ksr.
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Host: Matt Jones
Co-hosts: Ryan Lemond and crew
Theme: The Transfer Portal Era, UK Basketball After the Championship, and the Changing Landscape of College Sports
This lively episode of Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) dives deep into the aftermath of last night’s men’s basketball national championship. Matt, Ryan, and company reflect on how Michigan’s victory and their transfer-heavy roster mirrors Kentucky’s aspirations under Mark Pope. They dissect portal strategy, talk about key comings and goings for UK basketball, share inside info on transfer targets, and debate the new normal in college sports. There’s some local color—from political campaign apparel to Lexington’s storage tycoons—plus rich banter on NIL realities, the future for Kentucky women’s hoops, and more.
[05:22 – 09:40]
Michigan’s Portal Roster vs. Kentucky Aspirations
How Should Fans Feel?
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This episode blends serious basketball analysis, fan anxiety, and Kentucky-community fun while capturing the uncertainties and excitement of the transfer portal age. If you care about UK sports, NIL, and the real people behind the bluegrass headlines, this hour will catch you up, make you laugh, and keep you plugged in.