2026-04-08- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – Hour 1

Date: April 8, 2026
Host: Matt Jones with Ryan Lemond and Drew Franklin
Location: KS Bar & Grill, Lexington, KY

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Episode Overview

This episode of Kentucky Sports Radio focuses on the current state of Kentucky basketball, the madness of the transfer portal, off-season roster construction, and shifting trends in college basketball strategy following March Madness. The crew brings the usual blend of local flavor, listener calls, and lively banter, with Matt Jones driving discussion around “the new world” of college hoops, Kentucky’s possible roster moves, and NCAA eligibility changes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Wings Day at KS Bar and Local Banter

• The show starts with Matt expressing excitement for $1 wings at KS Bar, lamenting high gas prices but celebrating affordable local eats.
  • Quote: “Even with all the difficulties in price around America, you can still come here and get dollar wings on Wednesday.” (03:19 – Matt Jones)
• The team welcomes audience members from across Kentucky, with chat about teenage driver permit rules and ribbing Ryan about letting his son fudge driving logs.
  • Quote: “Are you admitting to lying on a government form?” (06:16 – Matt Jones)

2. Personal Updates and Local Life

• Drew is on "baby watch," as his wife is due any day, causing some uncertainty around Friday's remote broadcast.
  • Quote: “I really want Masters Sunday, but we’re at any moment.” (07:09 – Drew Franklin)
• The crew jokes about naming a baby “Dawn” and the logistics of speeding to the delivery.

3. The Transfer Portal Era & Roster Construction

• Matt emphasizes the chaos and reality of the new transfer portal era, with 1,400 players currently in the portal.
  • Quote: “This is not the college basketball I know. Well, it’s not… But it’s also never going to be again.” (08:08 – Matt Jones)
• Discussion about how teams are now older, more talented, and the “one-and-done” model is outmoded.
• The process of staying updated is exhausting even for beat reporters (special mention of Jack Pilgrim and his non-stop calls and late-night updates).
  • Quote: “He gets up at like 7am and he's going till like 11pm… even at dinner he’s having to sit there and take phone calls — this is his Super Bowl.” (10:18 – Matt Jones)

4. Returning Players and Roster Breakdown

• Cam Williams announces he’s returning; team now has Williams, Moreno (likely), and Chandler (expected) as core returnees.
  • Quote: “When he plays well, he can guard and he can shoot threes. I love having him on the team, so I was excited to see that news.” (12:48 – Matt Jones)
• Drew notes it’s positive that only players fans were ready to let walk have left.
• Roster needs: The consensus is that Kentucky needs at least two “dudes” (high-level impact players), especially at point guard and big man, plus reliable role players and shooters.
  • Quote: “In my view, Drew, we got to go get two dudes, right?” (16:26 – Matt Jones)
  • “Like your point guard has to be a dude.” (16:36 – Drew Franklin)

5. Coaching and Recruiting Communication

• The crew jokes about Mark Pope’s preference for FaceTime vs. Zoom when talking to recruits, with playful critique of Pope’s up-close video calls.
  • Quote: “Your face should not take up three fourths of the camera.” (14:59 – Matt Jones)
• Mo Williams’ “cool factor” as an assistant is highlighted, contrasting the analytics-driven persona of Pope and staff.
  • Quote: “Mo Williams is cooler than the entire UK staff combined… he can walk in the Peach Jam and execute a proper dap.” (48:01 – Drew Franklin)

6. Listener Calls & Lighter Moments

• Classic KSR banter around onions, with a listener suggesting onions in socks relieve foot pain, immediately ridiculed by the hosts.
  • Quote: “If your feet hurt and you put onions in your socks, it will make it better. Don’t believe that.” (30:14 – Matt Jones)
• Local legend Richie Farmer texts in: “No on onions and socks, but they do absorb smells.” (39:22 – Drew Franklin)
• Matt and Drew offer stories about ineptitude around home maintenance (the anode rod in a hot water heater and a DIY plumbing mishap).

7. NCAA Rule Changes: Five-Year Eligibility

• Matt provides a summary of breaking NCAA news: A likely new rule will grant players five years of playing eligibility post-high-school, no redshirts/waivers except for military or religious missions.
  • Quote: “Players would have five years of eligibility from the year they graduated high school… you can play all five years, but no exceptions, no red shirts.” (32:31 – Matt Jones)
• Drew supports the change, noting it addresses waivers and helps athletes plan.
  • “When you graduate high school, you have a five year window and whatever happens, happens.” (34:59 – Drew Franklin)
• Matt explains it’s primarily a legal move for the NCAA to defend itself in court.

8. Shifting Trends: Offense vs. Defense in March Madness

• Contrast drawn between offense-heavy teams (UConn, Illinois) and Michigan’s defense-first, big-body formula for winning the national title.
  • “In the four last games Michigan won to win the title … they held all four of those teams to their lowest shooting percentage of the entire year.” (40:36 – Matt Jones)
• Discussion of how this trend (the resurgence of size and offensive rebounding) reflects evolving NBA and college strategies.

9. Kentucky’s Coaching Staff: Uncertainty

• There’s concern over UK’s slow public communication and possible vacancies on the staff, with questions about Mark Fox returning.
  • “It is weird… and it’s almost like no one’s even acknowledged this. … It’s a critical time for Pope’s job.” (50:05 – Drew Franklin)
• Critique of the program’s recent PR and communication approach.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Portal Era:
  “It's just not the college basketball I know … But it's also never going to be again.” (08:08 – Matt Jones)

• On Kentucky’s Roster Needs:
  “We need two guys better than both Moreno and Chandler.” (26:05 — Ryan Lemond)

• On the Cool Factor and Coaching:
  “Mo Williams is probably the best dapper we now have on staff.” (48:31 – Drew Franklin)

• On NCAA’s Five-Year Rule:
  “If you get hurt, still lose one of your years. So five years to play five years.” (32:49 – Matt Jones)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:15 – Show begins with local updates, excitement about Wings Day, and laughs about gas prices and cheap food.
• 04:43 – Baseball talk: Matt’s Cincinnati Reds euphoria and commentary on Ellie De La Cruz.
• 06:31 – Driving permit law banter & Ryan admitting to log “fudging.”
• 07:09 – Drew’s baby watch drama and the intersection with UK’s remote broadcast plans.
• 08:08 – Discussion of the transfer portal revolution and changes to college basketball rosters.
• 10:18 – Behind-the-scenes: Beat reporters’ challenge in portal season.
• 12:48 – Cam Williams announced as returning; roster projections.
• 16:26 – The guys break down what UK still needs to be competitive next season.
• 22:56 – Humorous debate over onions, raw onions, “onions in socks” remedies.
• 32:31 – In-depth segment on the new NCAA eligibility rule (five years post-high school), with legal context.
• 40:36 – Final Four analysis: Michigan’s “defense and size” run vs. offense-first teams.
• 48:01 – Drew’s praise of Mo Williams’ recruiting presence and “coolness” on staff.
• 50:05 – Uncertainty and criticism over UK staff vacancies and public relations.

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

• Conversational, playful, and deeply rooted in Kentucky community and culture.
• The episode is a primer on how much the college basketball world has changed, both in player movement and in how teams are built.
• The hosts blend real Kentucky concerns (gas prices, coaching staff, future roster builds) with humor and audience engagement.
• There’s both optimism and anxiety about the way college basketball and UK, in particular, are navigating a chaotic off-season.
• Listener interaction adds local flavor and levity (onions in socks, baby naming, plumbing mishaps).

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Summary for Non-Listeners

If you missed the show, you got a thorough, on-the-ground update on Kentucky basketball’s off-season: who’s staying, what the team needs, how college hoops are changing, and why this transfer portal era is both exhausting and exciting. You also heard the hosts’ unease around the program’s communication, hopes for a revamped staff, and plenty of laughs about Kentucky life and listener oddities.

Transcript

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[Matt Jones]

welcome everyone, Kentucky Sports Radio Wednesday, August 8th I am Matt Jones here at the KS Bar and Grill, where it is Wings Day Wednesday. I'm excited. I'm actually going to get some wings. I haven't had good KS Bar wings since I've been traveling in a couple weeks and it's a dollar wings today. Even with all the. With all the difficulties in price around America, you can still come here and get dollar wings on Wednesday and burgers from Doce.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, they got a small loan to fill your gas tank, but you can come here and get dollar wings after afterwards.

[Matt Jones]

That's right. It was 439in.in somewhere.

[Ryan Lemond]

Goodness.

[Matt Jones]

The other day.

[Ryan Lemond]

Was it really?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I'm trying to think where I was. It was in Kentucky, though. Maybe it was in. I guess it was in Louisville.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm not sure. I saw pictures 519 somewhere around here today in Kentucky. Yeah. It wasn't Lexington. Somebody sent me a picture.

[Matt Jones]

Wow. Well, don't go there. Oh. Anyway, Clark's Puppet Shop phone line 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254. In this edition, sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office. If you call TJ he'll make them pay. Ryan Lemon, I'm on a a high right now for my Cincinnati Reds who won a game they had no business winning last night. Look at that hat over there. I appreciate that we'll have plenty of time to break it down, but it's nice to, you know, after being frustrated at times this year during football and basketball season. It's. It's. It's fun to see now before they collapse because they still have the second fewest runs in baseball. So I. We're going to collapse. But until then, it's the summer of it.

[Ryan Lemond]

You did come in with a little pep in your step this morning.

[Matt Jones]

I watched the whole game. Watch the dude. It was the best pitching performance I've ever seen by the other guy.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, he was awesome.

[Matt Jones]

And then we still somehow won.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, you show me how Ellie scored the tyrant. 99% of a major league baseball player would not be able to score.

[Matt Jones]

But it's Ellie. And he's wearing a hoodie now. That's why he's so good. He slow him down? No, because he said it keeps him cool.

[Drew Franklin]

It's like having a parachute back there.

[Matt Jones]

That's what people say. But he said. I heard him say. They asked him and he said, first of all, it keeps him cool. And second, it's a vibe.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay. I did that play last night.

[Matt Jones]

Way ahead of it. I've been keeping cool and a vibe for a long time.

[Drew Franklin]

I've been challenging people to races and hoodies before.

[Matt Jones]

It's true. Going to do that today. I didn't take. Didn't take Amy. We got Montgomery county here. Alexi, where are you all from? Olive Hill. Tom T. Hall Country. In. In the house. And what about you? Bur Bourbon County, Lexington.

[Drew Franklin]

So here you go. Good.

[Matt Jones]

Good morning.

[Ryan Lemond]

A man right here is working on his driver's permit. Dad let him drive over here today from Elizabethtown. Get to get the hours in driver's permit.

[Matt Jones]

So what's the rules on that now? You get it at 16, but you

[Ryan Lemond]

got to drive 120 hours? Yeah. 15 and a half.

[Matt Jones]

You get it? 15 and a half driving. No wonder these roads are so windy. When did that happen? I wouldn't let a 15 and a half year old drive.

[Ryan Lemond]

You gotta drive with your parent. And you gotta drive 120 hours to get your true permit.

[Matt Jones]

Well, how do they know that?

[Ryan Lemond]

You gotta fill out a log so

[Matt Jones]

you can just make something up.

[Ryan Lemond]

Josiah would drive from my house to Douglas. That was two hours.

[Matt Jones]

Are you admitting the line on a government form?

[Ryan Lemond]

I plead the fifth.

[Drew Franklin]

I think he admitted for his son. Not even him.

[Matt Jones]

To be quite frank with you, you can't plead the fifth because you just admitted it.

[Ryan Lemond]

That was AI. That was AI? Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

That's interesting. I didn't. It didn't seem like a drew. People keep asking me, have you had a baby?

[Drew Franklin]

I hope not. I Keep checking my phone. Nothing yet. But we are. We are in due Sunday. Sunday is the official due date, but we're at the point where, you know, any. Anything could happen.

[Ryan Lemond]

He's got a dilemma. Friday, we're in Somerset.

[Drew Franklin]

I asked the doctor. The doctor said, check with Abby in the morning, see how she's feeling, and then you should be okay.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, you could have a memory that the. The baby could come and you'd be at Don.

[Drew Franklin]

And I would have to name the baby dawn in that moment. It's a girl. Dawn Franklin.

[Matt Jones]

So we are at Don Franklin in Somerset on Friday, potentially on Baby. Baby watch.

[Drew Franklin]

I'd prefer Sunday. I'm really. I really want Master Sunday. But we're at any moment.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that would be. I mean, just. If we're talking content. Oh, yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Let's think about the show, which is

[Matt Jones]

ultimately what I think is most important. You having to leave Don Franklin to rush and go have a baby would be great. Content. Content. Yeah. For you all. How does that work?

[Drew Franklin]

Am I allowed to speed? Can I throw some flashers on and maybe bend the rules a little bit?

[Matt Jones]

Oh, that's interesting. Maybe there can be a Pulaski county escort.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, hospital.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, now we got to set this up.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, yeah, we're ready. So I was going to ask if you wanted to go to the Reds game with me Sunday. You out?

[Drew Franklin]

Probably a. No, I will watch it from the hospital.

[Matt Jones]

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[Drew Franklin]

There.

[Matt Jones]

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[Drew Franklin]

I want to go to the Masters. That's a different conversation.

[Matt Jones]

So if I go to the Masters,

[Drew Franklin]

if there's a Master's ticket out there, I can. I might have to take one.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I hope I get to go to Don Franklin, but I also don't want you to be. To. To be stressed at Don Franklin.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I'm planning to be there, but we'll see. We'll see how nature goes.

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[Matt Jones]

Well, very, very exciting. This is yesterday. Yesterday's one of those days, like, where the phone kind of gets wedded to my hand, which I don't enjoy, which is because you. You. You want to make sure if something happens, you're ready to go. There are, I think Jeff Goodman said, 4,000 players that played last year that are eligible to play college basketball next year, and at this moment, 1400 of them are in the port. So that's a lot. You know, this is just how college basketball is now, and you just have to accept it. Like, I mean, I saw on, I think, a KS board thread something like, this is not the college basketball. I know. Well, it's not, you know, I mean, I'm not gonna try to debate with you. It's just not. But it's also never going to be again. So you just need to kind of decide this new world of the sport, do you enjoy it or not? I think. Here's where I think I am on it. I think it's awesome when the games start. I think what this has done is it has made it to where when the games start, the games are better, the teams are better, the players are older, they have incentive to stay. I don't think what Cal did these those first few years here at Kentucky, where it was all for. I don't think you could do that now. I really don't. Because the guys are so much older, which is why he's always like 26, 27, 28 year olds. Because I think he likes coaching freshmen. And Drew, I just don't think you can do that anymore if that's all you have.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, and there's that stat that's out. There's been like one freshman starting the championship game in like five years or whatever.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, Duke is. Duke had pretty elite freshmen and they had a couple older guys, but you know that you saw them kind of

[Drew Franklin]

fall apart, freshman mistakes.

[Matt Jones]

They kind of fell apart at the end of that game against Yukon. So I think the sport is actually better for it now. It can make these few weeks insanely hectic. And I would also understand, Ryan, why people might say, you know what, just tell me who's on the team. Kind of like, I can't follow this to every single guy. Just, just in the end, tell me who's on the team. I could understand that.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm kind of one of those guys because there's so much happening. I feel sorry for guys like Jack Pilgrim and Jacob. You know, they have to stay up with everybody entering the portal.

[Matt Jones]

Jacob. Jacob. I was talking to him last night. He gets up at like 7am and he's going till like 11pm and he, he, I guess he took his. He took someone to dinner last night.

[Drew Franklin]

I think he and Jack went to dinner.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, I thought it was a woman.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay, well, I don't know what they did.

[Matt Jones]

You know what? Let's scratch that because I don't know what his relationship status.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know what they were.

[Matt Jones]

Let's just say I thought they were

[Drew Franklin]

there for work purposes. But if there's something else that's, that's, that's between them, his woman, I get

[Matt Jones]

HR involved His woman, Jack. But I talked to him and like even at dinner he's having to sit there and take phone calls like, this is his Super Bowl.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, he loves calling people. I don't know. And I could not do that. He will just cold call. I think he called Todd golden one day before Kentucky games. Like, I get an interview and they're like, well,

[Matt Jones]

how much I hate calling people. I called a woman yesterday just to inquire about house design. And I felt like I was bothering her and that's her job. And I was like, I don't. I'm sorry to call you. Jack's calling people to annoy him and he has no problem doing it.

[Ryan Lemond]

You got to have a special personality to be able to do that.

[Matt Jones]

I couldn't do it.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm with you. I don't either. I don't want to bother people.

[Matt Jones]

I feel like you could do it. You call it. You talk to anybody?

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, I like to talk to them. But if you're taking your 15th phone call in an hour about are you entering the transfer portal or not?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Gonna be a little annoying.

[Drew Franklin]

I had to DM a high school bam out of bio because he wasn't answering. And I still get anxiety about it.

[Caller - Jasper]

I did not want to send it,

[Drew Franklin]

but I was already outside his high school waiting and couldn't get a hold of anyone. And it still haunts me 10 years later.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's. That's funny.

[Caller - Jasper]

I don't like that.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't like reaching out to the high school.

[Matt Jones]

We would send you to go see the new Kentucky players.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, just when you, when they don't answer the first call, it's like, I don't want to bug this 17 year

[Matt Jones]

old, but I'm here, but you have to bug him. All right, so. But we do get. When we get actual concrete news that's important. So yesterday the actual concrete news is that Cam Williams is coming back. He's now officially only the second guy back. Moreno and him. Although Moreno's, I guess technically in the draft, but I think he'll be back. I assume Colin Chandler's gonna be back, although he hasn't said it yet. Cam Williams, I think when he came here the assumption was always going to be he was a two year player. I don't think the first year went exactly as they wanted because he got hurt and was out for a period of time. I think this is a great guy to get back. My guess is he's kind of going to be slotted in a six man role next Year. I don't know that, but that's my guess. But he is long. He can guard. When he plays well, he can guard and he can shoot threes. I drew love having him on the team, so I was excited to see that news.

[Drew Franklin]

Me too. He kind of got a slower start than a lot of people expected, probably even him. But I mean, he had that eight three pointers against Bellarmine. I think he had 15 against Mississippi State, something like that. Then he gets hurt right as he started getting going and getting the minutes he deserved. So his injury came at a bad time and I'm glad they're bringing him back. And really let's include Chandler. If we're being honest, the people we didn't mind waving goodbye to have left and the ones we're wanting to keep look like they're going to keep. So I'd say so far, so good on what he's doing with the team from this past season.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know, Cam Waynes was just settling into his role. You know, he would just start to play well. He was starting. He was finally found. He shot knocking down threes and then that injury happened. It just happened at the worst time for that. So I'm glad he's going to come back, maybe get a chance to shine for a holy season.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think there was anybody on the team that when they shot, I was 100% confident was going in. But the two I was most confident were Chandler and Cam. I kind of thought like, if they take the shot, I feel pretty good. I kind of was of the view. If they're open, shoot everybody else. I was like, all right, well, think about it before you do it with those two guys. I was like, if you're open, shoot. So I'm glad to have him. And so I was thinking as I was sitting having my McMuffin this morning, how do you. If you're an average fan, how do you process this portal? I mean, you keep reading names and you hear Mark Pope zooming with this guy and interesting. Sometimes he chooses to zoom, but sometimes he facetimes. How do you decide which one to do? Because he's FaceTiming with some guys and zooming with the others that like an unofficial tell of who he's interested in the most.

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe on the other end they don't pay for the premium and they're out of minutes, so he has to switch. He clearly has the professional subscription because he's living on zoom.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, well, I think I would choose to FaceTime. It's just easier than I would choose

[Drew Franklin]

to text if it were me.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Mark Pope does. I will say, did you see the picture of him on FaceTime with one guy? He needs to back up the back. He's got the Mario thing where he sticks the phone directly in his face. So I would just say the same way. I asked Mario sometimes to back the camera up. I'm gonna make a little suggestion to Mark back the camera up. Your face should not take up three fourths of the camera. Do you agree with that?

[Ryan Lemond]

I totally agree with that. I saw that, you know, his first class, he did a lot of FaceTiming, and we worked, you know, had some success. Maybe he feels like it's more personal connection with somebody when you FaceTime the guy.

[Matt Jones]

But my view is going to be. So I was trying to think, what do I want this roster to look like? And so I. I thought about, all right, they've got. Let's assume they have Chandler. With Chandler, Moreno, I think you have two guys.

[Ryan Lemond]

That it.

[Matt Jones]

The assumption is going to be they're going to start. Everybody can go, oh, I'd love to have Chandler come off the bench. I'd love to have Moreno. Those guys did not come back to have started this year and come off the bench next year. So I think you just need to assume those guys are going to start. I would say Cam is like your sixth or seventh man. That's what they brought him in here originally. That's what he played, Drew. I figure that's what he'll do next year. Do you agree?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And I wouldn't think with the year he had, coming off an injury, he'd have many opportunities to go take a big role somewhere else.

[Matt Jones]

Exactly.

[Drew Franklin]

That would be any better than anything here.

[Matt Jones]

So what am I looking for? All right. I think if you look at the tournament, every team that succeeded had two or three guys who could ball. Right. These teams that were good, you know, you had UConn, had the big fella, Reed or whatever his name, Silas Demery, and. And Caravan were consistent. And then Mullins played well at the end. You look at Michigan, they had probably four guys that were like that, probably seven or eight guys that would play. I'm gonna assume Chandler, Moreno are two of ours. If they end up not being good enough to be two of ours, then that's gonna be a problem. But they're gonna be paid like, they're

[Drew Franklin]

gonna be two them of.

[Matt Jones]

Of ours. So in my view, Drew, we got to go get two dudes, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Absolutely.

[Matt Jones]

And I don't know who they are probably one of them needs to be a point guard.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

Like your point guard has to be a dude.

[Matt Jones]

And I think one of them probably needs to be a big. But Moreno is the kind that it could be like a six, nine big or it could be a seven eleven one seven eleven huge. Wow.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Let's go get a seven foot seven, one big. You could get two different kinds and I think it would still work with Marina know and then I think you need at least one other really solid guy and then you fill the rest with role players. That's what I'm looking for in this class. So I'm kind of looking for two studs. One guy that like on any given night might lead the team in scoring and then three or four kind of guys to fit a role. Do you agree with that?

[Drew Franklin]

I do. Are we giving up on Stokes? I mean, I don't feel good.

[Matt Jones]

Stokes would be one of the two. I mean if you get Stokes then he's. He's filling in one of the two studs.

[Drew Franklin]

Dream world.

[Matt Jones]

He's there without. And I'm not giving up on him yet, by the way. But that takes one of. I'm considering him almost like a portal edition because this is so late in the year.

[Drew Franklin]

There's enough point guards out there right now that will be stars. I mean, heck, some of them were stars last year. Yeah. You have to get one of those guys. You absolutely have to because there are

[Matt Jones]

so many point guards that have entered. Because there are a lot. Does that make you less want to take the guy who might be injured at lsu? Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean if he, if he showed up today on campus with his luggage and said, I want to be a wildcat, maybe you take him so you don't miss out on others. But right from BYU just went in Zoom Diallo from Washington yesterday. There's some, some, as you say, dudes, some guys that you really want to go out and try to get.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So that's our. That's my take on it. We'll talk about a couple of the guys as the show goes on and more. We are here at KS Bar and Grill. Good to see everybody. Olive Hill, you know, play a Tom T. Hall song for these people. Okay, Rick.

[Caller - Jasper]

Will do.

[Matt Jones]

All right. We'll be right back. Ksr.

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. This is. What is this? Faster Horses. Is that right? Yeah, faster horses, younger women, older whiskey and more money. That's what he says are the the secrets to life.

[Ryan Lemond]

Like that one song you play all the time and he just says, and onions. That's saying all the things he likes. I love I love onions.

[Matt Jones]

Nothing wrong with loving onions. Nobody loves onions. Oh, I do.

[Ryan Lemond]

You see like onions a raw thing in a raw.

[Matt Jones]

Nobody eats a raw onion, but you put it in other things and like nobody just sits and eat that. I would think a person's crazy. It's like if they just eat a raw onion.

[Drew Franklin]

I had to do that as part of like a church fear factor thing. I'm telling you, it affected me for a month. I could not get rid of onion, eat it like an apple.

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[Matt Jones]

Church fearful.

[Drew Franklin]

It was like we were doing a youth group and there's all these dares and mine was to eat an onion like an Apple.

[Matt Jones]

And I was like, church, do you go to?

[Drew Franklin]

This was. Well, I went to the First Presbyterian

[Matt Jones]

Church, but this might have happened at the First.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I think. I think the Methodist put me up to this crosstown. I was with some friends. But I'm telling you. How bad you think it is. It was worse. I couldn't. I brushed my teeth 10 times a day for a month and couldn't get it out.

[Matt Jones]

I was just telling you during the break, Ryan, this is. It may be the thing that finally has me consider getting married is this house. Because I'm learning how little that I know about things. You know, I met with the landscaper yesterday, and they sent me, and they're like, these are the things you need. And it was a long list.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

And I was like, I know how businesses are. I don't think I need all these things, but I have no idea what I need. So I asked my mom and I asked hubby's wife.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Which of these things do I need? And There were like 11 choices, and they both picked the exact same one.

[Drew Franklin]

There we go.

[Matt Jones]

Which means somehow they have a gene that they know.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

That I don't have. And I wonder if that's true about other things.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, I guarantee it's true about a lot of things. Women is. They're smarter than us.

[Matt Jones]

Women is smarter than us. They are another great shirt for you. Women is smarter than they is.

[Drew Franklin]

You'll learn there's a lot going on in the house that you didn't think you'd have to be ready for. Yes, things will break.

[Matt Jones]

859-280-22871 person, right? Or Matt. Are you really willing to hit your wagon to Chandler? He needs to be fourth option. Maybe third at best. Well, okay, but my. What I just told you was I wanted three to four guys that were really good. I think Chandler is one of them. So they're. You know, if he's your third or fourth option, that's up to you, but, yeah, he can be third or fourth option on a really good team. Yes. Just like Braylon Mullins. You know, Braylon Mullins has probably got a bigger upside, but he didn't play well. A lot of the. A lot of the year, Chandler can be as good as that guy can.

[Drew Franklin]

Think of the jump he made from where he couldn't even play his freshman year before Christmas. Got a little better in postseason, hit some big shots and a huge jump as a sophomore. I mean, there is a world where guys get better every year. I mean, think if he Takes another big jump and all the shots he hit, everybody. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

He's like, what, 20?

[Drew Franklin]

He's married. He's not out getting distracted. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, he's.

[Caller - Jasper]

He.

[Matt Jones]

He's got a chance to be, I think, really good. Do I got a 401k? Do I think you could win with him as your best player? No. But can he be the third best player on a team that's really good. Yes. I do think that.

[Ryan Lemond]

I feel like we all agree. No disrespect to Chandler and Moreno, but the two dudes they bring have to be better than both those guys. We need two guys better than both Moreno and Chandler.

[Matt Jones]

I definitely need one, and I probably need two. Yes.

[Caller - Basketball Fan]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But I definitely need one. They got to get one. They got to have a dude.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Right. They got to have a dude. They got to go, look. Okay. I don't. I don't know that you'll get somebody better than. No way. But you got to get somebody in his ballpark.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes, Agree. Totally agree.

[Matt Jones]

And then with Aberdeen, you got to get somebody that was at least as good as Aberdeen at the end of the year. Right. Because now, at the beginning of the year, he wasn't very good, but in a perfect world, you'd get an away equal and an upgrade to Aberdeen and Moreno and Chandler get better, and then you get better complementary pieces than what you had last year, where it just felt like it was a mishmash of parts that didn't really work together.

[Drew Franklin]

And really, I know the season didn't go well, but getting better than away and Aberdeen isn't going to be that easy.

[Matt Jones]

It's not.

[Drew Franklin]

Those two guys had a really great year, especially at the end. And I think at the 4, however good they are, you need somebody that can space. They just lack shooting at that position this year.

[Matt Jones]

Go find either.

[Drew Franklin]

Even. I'd prefer a starter, but even if it's an Ansley Almanor type that just sits in the corner. Threes. Pope needs that for his office.

[Matt Jones]

One of the guys with the role players got to make. Got to make threes. Got to like that we know he comes in and makes them. I think that's probably what he envisioned Trent Noah being, and then he just wasn't right. That you got. You got to have that. I would assume.

[Ryan Lemond]

Speaking of Trent, still no word on him.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I don't know. I wonder if they're privately trying to see what the market.

[Ryan Lemond]

I wonder.

[Matt Jones]

Or if they have one. All right.

[Caller - Basketball Fan]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

We're gonna go to the phones, Bob. And Jamestown is Banned for one week. Okay, you got that, Rick? Because I can't see the calls. Okay, Rick, I'll mark that down. All right, who's up first? Joey is up first. Joey. Go ahead, Joey.

[Caller - Jasper]

Hey, guys.

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[Caller - Jasper]

Good. I'm calling about the. That the Johnson. Derek Johnson put out the other day.

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Caller - Jasper]

I don't really like it. I think it's selective, and I think if Jack. I mean, I'm not saying Jasper ain't good. I'm sure he is. Maybe on. Down the road, but if you're good, the cream usually rises to the top and you'll be able to find minutes. And he had every chance in the world last season to find minutes and. And just. I just couldn't see him doing it. What do you think about that?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, Jasper, I appreciate the call, especially after Low got hurt, had every chance to play. Kentucky needed him. They needed him to play. And when they put in, he was not helpful. I don't know what else there is to say. I really don't. I mean, you know. Now, is that because of something in practice or didn't connect? I don't know. I mean. But I just know that when he came in, the longer the season got, when he came in, the worse it was. To the point that they weren't even playing him at the end. And that was. And when they did, in the biggest game of the year, it didn't go well.

[Ryan Lemond]

So, yeah, you couldn't take Aberdeen off the floor because it kind of took a step back and Aberdeen was playing so well pretty much for the second half of the season.

[Matt Jones]

Go back to the first five games of the year. I bet if you go back and look, Aberdeen was pretty bad.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, he was.

[Matt Jones]

And Jasper was kind of not far away from him. Aberdeen grew, Jasper didn't. What are you going to do?

[Drew Franklin]

You know, we all thought at the end of the year, play Aberdeen and away till their legs fall off. You know, we were getting mad because Pope was benching them because there was just a clear difference in that.

[Caller - Basketball Fan]

In that.

[Matt Jones]

By the way, Aberdeen's trying to get a fifth year.

[Ryan Lemond]

Saw that.

[Matt Jones]

I have to tell you, I. I don't know that he's considered. I'd love to have him back. I don't want him. I'd want him to be back. Like, I wouldn't want him to be the starting point guard. I'd want to be like a two guard. But if we. If he could, I'd love that, wouldn't you?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I don't really get his argument. Good luck on your ace.

[Matt Jones]

I like that he's only as an argument if what I'm going to talk about right after the break happens. So we will talk about that when we return. 859-280-2287. We'll be right back. KSR. Welcome back. Techie Sports Radio. 859-280-2257. Text machine. 772-774-5254. One person writes, Matt, onions have healing qualities. If your feet hurt and you put onions in your socks, it will make it better. Don't believe that.

[Ryan Lemond]

Never heard that.

[Matt Jones]

Don't believe it.

[Drew Franklin]

Never heard.

[Matt Jones]

Can't be true.

[Drew Franklin]

Onions in your socks.

[Matt Jones]

Onions in your socks. Anybody ever heard that? We got people here, sir, in the back. You look like somebody would have heard it.

[Caller - Basketball Fan]

It.

[Matt Jones]

He's on his phone, so he doesn't. He, he hasn't heard it. There's no, there's no, there's no way that's true.

[Ryan Lemond]

We need to ask Freddy. Freddie's the one who's got all the crazy.

[Matt Jones]

Freddie would know.

[Drew Franklin]

Freddie or Richie Farmer will text him.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, Richie, if you, I know you're listening, Richie, if onions in your socks, if you all did that at Clay county under Bobby Keith, you let me know. One person says, matt, I eat raw onions and drink whole white milk every day for lunch. It's part of my health regimen. It actually works.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yuck. That sounds awful.

[Matt Jones]

Those are literally the two things that I would say make you a psychopath. I've told you, when I see someone drinking whole white milk, I think they're a psychopath. And now if I saw. So can you imagine if you went somewhere and saw someone eating a raw onion and drinking old white milk, you would, that you'd pull your kids next to you and you would move to the other side of the room.

[Drew Franklin]

You should send that number to the FBI. Whoever just texted that, do they sit down and just cut it up late, sir.

[Matt Jones]

And I just sitting there and they go, okay, we get it.

[Ryan Lemond]

We're on it.

[Matt Jones]

We understand. All right. So before we go back to phones, Ross Dellinger and, and, you know, sometimes I like to give people ideas of who to follow because social media can be such a cesspool. But if you, there are certain people you follow. Like I have people that I think know about various parts of life that I'm interested. Like that dude Phil Stewart that I had on my podcast. He's great to follow about anything war related because he never gives his opinion. He just says, what's happening? And I think that's really good. Like, I don't need your opinion, just tell me. Except the problem is he types in all caps, which I'm like, stop yelling at me, Phil. But he's really good, especially being good during this Iran thing. Similarly, Ross Dellinger is the guy to follow when it comes to what is happening with the NCAA Congress president in terms of the future of college sports.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

He's on it. He's the number one guy. I don't know if he. I don't know who he's talking to, but he has everything. First, he said this morning that the NCAA is voting on a proposal next week. You remember Trump released his executive order. It had like 30 things in it, but they're one of the things that was in it and probably the one that is the least controversial amongst players and coaches and admin. It's the one thing everybody seems to be okay with. Would be players would have five years of eligibility from the year they graduated high school. Five years. And they can play all five years. But no exceptions, no red shirts, no waivers. The only exceptions would be for military or for religious mission. So for. But, but other than that, five years, if you get hurt, still lose one of your years. So five years to play five years. But you can, if you're healthy, play five years of college sports. I think Denzel Aberdeen maybe saw, sees this down the path. That's why he may be wanting to play another year. So this would go into effect next year, but they have yet to say whether guys that graduated this year would get to participate. So we don't know. That's still to be decided. But starting for guys who are graduating high school this year, men and women, they all could do it. Do you like it?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I think I would like that. I mean, there's little things that are trivial, like throw out the record books before now because every record would get shattered. But that's not the end of the world. So. Yeah, I would like that. I mean, you got guys now. Our guy Cameron Fletcher is about to play his seventh year. I think that's extreme.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

So I'm saying if you limit them at 5. Sorry. If something happens, your circumstances change, you have a five year window. I could get behind that.

[Matt Jones]

I, I like it. I mean, we have to get used to. But I mean, just think about what could be. I mean, OA could play again. Yeah, Aberdeen could play again. I don't think. Oh, wait, I don't know. Maybe you would want to. If this happens. I kind of think they're gonna say, guys, this year can't do it because it would be just too hectic to. In the middle of portal season. All of a sudden a thousand new guys are eligible. But I do like it for the future, actually. Do you?

[Ryan Lemond]

I do for guys like football. Football. Aberdeen's a great example because he's not going to get drafted, but he can come back from a fifth year, make more money than he would make playing professionally. So it does have advantages for guys

[Matt Jones]

like that and football. I mean, there's very few guys that play all five years. So I mean it would allow football players to kind of. Or teams to recruit freshmen and let them. I think now I don't like the only one transfer thing because of reasons we've talked about. This is, that's not part of this. This is just five years. But it looks like it's gonna happen. So we're gonna have to all kind of retrain our minds to guys are now in college for five years.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, it throws out waivers. I mean, it'll stink if someone gets hurt a couple times. But you know, when you graduate high school, you have a five year window and whatever happens happens. Like everybody's in agreement, you get five years. Like if something, if you get hurt, sorry about it, you got a five year window. Don't have to worry about. Case by case.

[Matt Jones]

You may say, well, why does the NCAA want to do this? The reason is this will help them in court. Part of what hurt them in court is they would go, they argued in front of courts, hey, we have to, we can't allow six year, seventh year, whatever guys, because we have a principle. And then the court, the judges were like, yeah, but you gave an exception here and you give an exception here and you give and well, you're giving an exception here. So you're telling us we have to do it, but you're letting this guy play and you let this guy and you got this reason. This reason. I think that the courts were kind of like, if you're going to tell us you have to do it, you have to do it. You can't just keep letting these exceptions. So I think the NCAA has decided if we just say five years, no exceptions, better chance of it holding up in court. For my flimsy legal analysis, I think they're probably right about that. It would give them a better chance of them that being upholded.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know, we tend to think about basketball. Like you mentioned football, women's basketball, some of these sports where these players will stay an extra year, help them Help those programs grow even more.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So just something to watch. Could happen next week and start affecting next year's players. Maybe these guys, but probably more likely next year. Who's next? Alex is next. Alex, go ahead. Alex,

[Caller - Jasper]

you literally just talked about the topic. I was going to call and ask you. I was going to say there's a world in which Matt Jones can create the perfect law for the United States for nil and transfer portal. What would it look like?

[Matt Jones]

I would say if you tell me that there's going to be a five year rule. Okay, tell me there's going to be a five year rule. If I could create, if I could snap my fingers and it became law, I would say a, you can only transfer twice because I think that would allow kids the chance to start at a small school, move up and then if it doesn't work out, have one more. If you can't find your fit after three schools, then that probably is on you. After that, I think you would have something where you, you have the, the rev share like we have. You allow private deals but cap the total of the private deals. I think the courts would allow that if they said you can have some private money, but we're going to cap it at a million dollars a player. I actually think courts would probably think that's okay for a variety of reasons. And I think if you did those things, I think from a court perspective you'd probably be okay. Now in a perfect world, I think you should make these kids employees. But that becomes very complicated. And I understand why the NCAA doesn't want to do this, but if you just did those things, rev share, five years, two transfers and they can make up to, let's say a million dollars. You can pick the number in private endorsements. I actually think that would hold up in court and I would, I would be good with it.

[Caller - Jasper]

Well, I mean you're the, you're the brains of the operation, so I guess.

[Matt Jones]

But thank you very much.

[Caller - Jasper]

And also you're getting a house and stuff. Do you know how to change your ad node Rod?

[Matt Jones]

I don't even know what those words mean.

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't even know what he just said.

[Matt Jones]

My ad noise. Isn't that something you remove?

[Caller - Jasper]

No, it's in your hot water tank. Your ad node Rod, supposed to change it about once every three to five years.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's probably not going to get changed. I appreciate the call.

[Ryan Lemond]

I've never bought the.

[Drew Franklin]

You got the good one.

[Matt Jones]

That lasts for the. Have you ever heard of ad node Rod? I think you made that up. None of the. This guy. I look at this guy. This guy knows how to fix that if he doesn't know what it is. They made that. He made that up to try to catch.

[Drew Franklin]

He's trying to flex.

[Matt Jones]

If he, if, if he is good with it, then I'm okay with.

[Drew Franklin]

I fixed a toilet this past weekend, but I made a mistake. I didn't turn the water off. It shot water into my face. It knocked my hat off and it hit the ceiling and just soaked the bathroom. So if you need help on plumbing, I got you.

[Matt Jones]

So if I have a plumbing issue,

[Drew Franklin]

I made quite the mess, but I fixed it. Richie Farmer chimes in.

[Matt Jones]

Who's up next?

[Drew Franklin]

You want Richie's message?

[Matt Jones]

What's Richie's message?

[Drew Franklin]

No on onions and socks. But they do absorb smells.

[Matt Jones]

They do what?

[Drew Franklin]

Absorbs.

[Matt Jones]

Absorb smells. Yes. Okay. Go ahead, Rick.

[Drew Franklin]

Richard is next.

[Matt Jones]

Richard. Go ahead, Richard.

[Caller - Basketball Fan]

Yes. I like to see it's morning fellers. I'd like to see us get teams and shoot the ball. The three ball like Connecticut did, like Illinois did. And a couple more of the teams they I like, I like some of those totally offensive teams. They.

[Caller - Jasper]

They reminded me of the team we

[Caller - Basketball Fan]

had Pope's first year. And I kind of like those. I hope he gets some players that'll match that. That's all I got.

[Matt Jones]

Y' all have appreciate. It was interesting Michigan. So we we've talked. I've been one of the biggest proponents. You got to score, score, score. It's all about all offense. This final four kind of went in the other direction. It did Michigan. So listen to these two stats about Michigan. In the four last games Michigan won to win the title. So against Yukon, Illinois, I think Tennessee and Alabama, they held all four of their those teams to their lowest shooting percentage of the entire year.

[Ryan Lemond]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

All four of them. The three teams that made the final four, the two that. That they play. That they played. But then also who did Illinois beat or see Yukon beat?

[Drew Franklin]

Illinois.

[Matt Jones]

Michigan held all three of their those teams in their games to their lowest field goal percentage of the year. Michigan kind of won the title by being big and playing defense. Nate Oates who I think most Kentucky fans agree. We think Nate Oates is a smart coach. Nate Oates said after the season, I'm kind of changing the way I'm recruiting a little bit bit. I still want guys that can shoot, but I've kind of now believe you've got a defense and offensive play. Defense and offensive rebound. So he was like, I got to start getting bigs again but bigs who can play inside, not just bigs who can shoot threes. Those were two very prominent coaches, Dusty May and Nate Oats. Kind of going against the view of shooting. Be interesting to see if Pope is following it or does he go back to the other.

[Ryan Lemond]

It does seem that's, that's the trend. I mean even Todd Golden I think said that he wants big, big, big guys, physical guys and he had that team this year and he had that team and look what they did. They were won the sec. So yeah, those Michigan guys, they, they're just more physical than Yukon guys. Push them around and I think that's now gonna be a trend for the years ahead.

[Drew Franklin]

But they blocked everything in that. Yeah, they bought you could not score inside on them.

[Matt Jones]

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[Ryan Lemond]

Wow.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

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[Ryan Lemond]

I don't.

[Matt Jones]

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[Caller - Lost Fan]

We're lost and kickoff's coming up. I don't want to miss the lineup. I'm gonna ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the stadium.

[Caller - Directions Giver]

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[Julian Edelman]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

[Caller - Directions Giver]

Let me get my phone out.

[Caller - Lost Fan]

How is there signal out here?

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[Caller - Lost Fan]

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Anode Rod is a metal rod in your heater that can collect corrosion and that you should change every eight to 10 years. Apparently. Didn't know.

[Ryan Lemond]

I've never heard that.

[Matt Jones]

Well, now there's. A lot of people have written it. I don't think they're making it up.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm sure it's true.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So that's important. One person writes. Matt, you did not answer the guy's question at the end of the show, and I assumed you would talk about it today. The guy that said that Pokemon couldn't relate to modern players because he was kind of a dork. Would you guys talk about it and do you agree? Well, he is kind of a dork, but that's okay. I don't think he's the only dork in college basketball. I think there are other dorks that are successful. I do. I do wonder. So let's go back to his first year team, Drew. He certainly connected to those guys.

[Drew Franklin]

Guys.

[Matt Jones]

But it was a unique group, wouldn't you say? I mean, it was all seniors. Team seemed to be relatively smart. Mari was British.

[Drew Franklin]

Came from Drexel.

[Matt Jones]

Came from Drexel. You know, you had a kid from Kobe, Brya. I mean, we. It was a very smart group of guys in. Especially the starting group.

[Drew Franklin]

Carr started at Delaware.

[Matt Jones]

You know, they're all Wake Forest. You know, can he go relate to the kid that's a top 20 talent. I don't know. I'm not sure. Maybe that's why he has a hard time getting them. But we might find out that that's not who he should coach. Like, it's just not who he connects with. So. So I. I think it's legitimate to wonder if those. If they can connect. But I think it's maybe still a little early to tell because he connected with his first group even if he didn't connect with this one.

[Drew Franklin]

That's why I like the Mo Williams hire so much. I even wrote, mo Williams is cooler than the entire UK staff combined. He is. That's a fact. I said that Mo Williams can walk in the Peach jam and execute a proper dap. And I don't know if we have anyone on the staff that could do. I don't mean that to slight them. We knew that when we traded Cal for Pope, we were trading kind of cool for a little more brains and analytics. And I think Mo Williams will be a big help in that department. That's why I like the hire.

[Matt Jones]

Interesting.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm not trying to, you know, it's a good thing to be nice. A little bit of corn.

[Matt Jones]

I think our guys can't dap correctly.

[Drew Franklin]

I think Mo Williams is probably the best dapper we now have on staff.

[Matt Jones]

That's true.

[Drew Franklin]

But Mo Williams is a level of cool that they needed, I think. And that's why I like that hire so much last week.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean, everything a staff can be. Ryan, like a show. Like, we hired Mario. He's cooler than us. As a matter of fact, he doesn't know this. We were in with all of our bosses on Monday, and we. We have a new boss. We have. And they were explained. I was explaining the cast members to the new boss, and I was like, so Ryan is this and Drew is this and Shannon is this. And then I got to Mario and I'm explaining. And then Christy, who's one of our bosses, just interrupted and goes, he's cool.

[Caller - Basketball Fan]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Thank you, Mario.

[Matt Jones]

But that's good. You do need someone like that. And Mo Williams can be that for us.

[Ryan Lemond]

We had to back up Drew's point. You go on. You're going to dab Mark Pope and Mark Fox maybe not going to work, but Mo Williams, he can. Got you.

[Matt Jones]

What is this? Have we heard about. What's the story with Mark Fox?

[Drew Franklin]

I'm worried about our staff, to be honest. We are in a pivotal offseason and we're down at least one and some uncertainty with others.

[Matt Jones]

So who is on the staff still? Cody figure is on the.

[Drew Franklin]

Cody figure.

[Matt Jones]

Do we assume he's coming back?

[Drew Franklin]

Yes. He and McClain were in that photo with.

[Matt Jones]

They're coming back. We have Mo Williams.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Do we know if Mark Fox is back?

[Drew Franklin]

Back? I did not expect him to be

[Matt Jones]

back, but I didn't.

[Drew Franklin]

Now April 8th and the portal season is rolling.

[Matt Jones]

Fox were to not come back. Does that mean there's two staff members open? It is weird. We're in portal season, and it's almost like no one's even acknowledged this.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm like, yeah, I brought it up on the show, I think yesterday. I'm like, is this a concern that we don't even have a full staff And Popes, you know, this is a critical time for popes. Heck, his job really going into next season, and this is moving so fast.

[Ryan Lemond]

The Robinson guy that set right. Right by the scores table. I think I've not seen anything about him leaving yet. He's still Around.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I don't know again, but they just, they, they have a culture of silence. They're not going to say anything until they have to. Mark Pope, I remember when he came here, he said, we're going to be open. This, this, this is. This program is your program. We're going to be out, we're going to be talking, we're going to meet people. And they have done the exact opposite. And generally speaking, my view has always been when you go quiet, it's the bad sign. I'm hoping that's not true here, but I think it's a different conversation. I think they've completely screwed up PR for the last year. I hope it improves. Who's up next? Dave is up next. Dave, Go ahead, Dave. Dave. All right. No, Dave. Who's next?

[Drew Franklin]

Okay, next is Mark.

[Matt Jones]

Mark. Go ahead, Mark.

[Caller - Basketball Fan]

Hey, what's going on, man?

[Matt Jones]

What's up?

[Caller - Basketball Fan]

Hey, real quick. Hey, I got a question for you. Do you think basketball has changed over the last five, six years? I know we always talk about modern offenses, this, that, and the other thing, but, man, I think right now basketball has changed. The fact that you just go with just sheer size and power on people. I mean, I look at UConn when they hit that run two or three, three back to back championships. They had clinging. And the other big guy, Florida, with Chin, Liu, Condon, those guys. Michigan started 7, 3, 6, 10 and 6, 9. Nothing modern about that. I mean, it's just.

[Matt Jones]

No, you're right. I mean, but they also were scoring 90 a game for a lot of the tournament. I mean, you know, but a lot

[Caller - Basketball Fan]

of those are close to the basket, too.

[Matt Jones]

That's true. You're exactly right. I appreciate the call. You may remember, Ryan, that right before the season, I told you I was listening to an NBA preview podcast. It was Bill Simmons and Zach Lowe or whatever, and they were doing the preview and they said, in the NBA, things have now dramatically changed. He was like, size is back and offensive rebounding is back. The whole league now believes offensive rebounding is your key to winning. I think I said that at the beginning of the year. And I go, I wonder if that's going to come to college basketball. I think it came this year.

[Ryan Lemond]

I believe it definitely came this year.

[Matt Jones]

I think it came this year. I think all of a sudden, sudden the idea that you, you got to hit the glass. I think the assumption is, look, these dudes don't shoot very well. Hit the glass, you know, and we'll see what we end up getting in the portal to to resemble that. We'll take a break. KS bar is now open. We'll be right back. It's Kentucky Sports Radio.

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