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Matt Jones
this Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287 the text machine is 772-774-5254. We are here at Don Franklin Hyundai. You can buy with backup every qualifying Part backed by 5 years parts warranty at Don Franklin in Somerset 29 locations Quality installed peace of mind mile after mile here at Don Franklin they brought pizza and I'm glad the all the Somerset folks got got pizza. One person writes did Ryan get chili bumps at the closing yeah that front surprised you didn't say that.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
I I just felt so proud. I mean I just kind of just
Matt Jones
he even bought lunch. That's how excited he was. He even bought lunch because you got a nice little check yesterday.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
I did and I can't thank you enough for that, my family thanks you. I have food now for a couple months.
Matt Jones
How much you eating? It's true. You better have a lot of food.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Well, you know, we're meeting a handyman guy over at your house today. Kind of get some little issues. Kind of.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Get it going for you, and it'll be perfect for you.
Matt Jones
One person writes. You keep talking about furniture. Matt. Did you not have furniture in your old house? The same furniture I had since college. I mean, I did it. Like, if you. If you walked into my living space in both. Well, not so much Lexington, but especially in Louisville, if you walked into my living space, you would probably think, this guy's just 24, but reads a lot of books. That's probably what you would think. So I. I did recognize that, you know, it's time to get closer to adulthood in terms of. Because literally, I had the same place in Louisville I've had for 18 years with the same stuff in it, pretty much. So it is kind of time for an update.
Ryan Lemond
I went through that, too. When I moved, I had, like, my kitchen utensils, and I looked at them, and I was like, my idiot friends were using these in 2007. I should probably renew going into a new house and buy some new things.
Matt Jones
Yeah. And I have a. So this is kind of cool. My mom suggested this when I became a lawyer. My mom was like, you should buy a desk. That is a really nice desk that you can have for your entire legal career. And it's like, you know, this was with you from the beginning. So I bought this old antique desk. And of course, my legal career spanned four years, but now I have this desk, and it is a hundred years old, and it's beautiful, but it also weighs, like, 50,000 pounds. And so moving that is very, very difficult. It's part of the reason I never moved in Louisville is I never wanted to move that desk. I said, I will just stay here until they bury me so that I never have to move this desk.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
That's the one thing you've talked about. That's the one thing you're going to bring in your house.
Matt Jones
It's like, it goes back to, like, the 1800s, I think.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
And then now, if you're thinking about putting it upstairs.
Matt Jones
Yeah, it's not getting upstairs. I don't know. I don't even know how we do that. All right, couple things here, and then I want to talk about a conversation I had yesterday. The. What is it? Artemis. Or as I call it in Bell County. Artemis. Artemis Space show is on Its way back or the. The pod is what? Ori. Orion.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, I was mispronouncing uninterrupted.
Matt Jones
Whatever I said was, whatever it is, it's on its way back. And I was reading about this yesterday, so I think at like 2:00 clock or 2:30 or something, it will come through the atmosphere and eight minutes, you may. You may have seen this in movies over the years. Apollo 13 or whatever. For eight minutes it will come through the atmosphere and they will lose all communication with ground level. And they will basically just be, you know, spiraling into the pits of Earth through whatever's in our atmosphere. Helium, I don't know, whatever it is, getting through there for eight minutes. And it is the most dangerous part of the mission. It is the thing that over the years, it has failed at times, but all the way through. And then eight minutes later, they will be able to communicate again and then they will splash down in the ocean. And I was reading this thing where an astronaut that had done it said, it is the scariest eight minutes that you can have in life. So here's my question. I was thinking about that. Think about eight minutes. A long time, long time. Can't talk to anybody. You know, just falling fast. You're fire. I mean, it's. Who knows? It's. It's got to be crazy. How do you think you would handle those eight minutes?
Ryan Lemond
Well, first, the four of us are interlocking fingers. Got interlock fingers for that.
Matt Jones
I think if you're gonna interlock fingers, though, that's an excuse to do it. That's a time that I think interlocking fingers would be okay.
Ryan Lemond
Me and my fellow astronauts, we're becoming one in that moment. We're holding on to each other. I don't know how intense it is. I don't know if we can sing, but we're doing something to distract ourselves. We're just going to power through this eight minutes and then smooth sailing the rest of the way home. Definitely interlocking fingers.
Matt Jones
You can handle the eight minutes.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
I'm with Drew. I'll be singing, praying, trying something. That eight minutes. I'm sure it feels like eight hours.
Matt Jones
Oh, it's gone through. It's got to take forever.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
I don't know if I could do it.
Matt Jones
So you just stay in space, like,
Ryan Lemond
leave me up here? I can't do that.
Matt Jones
I don't.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
I wouldn't even leave Earth to go up in space. I don't think.
Matt Jones
Oh, come on. You wouldn't go if, like, that was your career. I Mean, you might not go now, but if that was your career and your life's. The goal was to go up there and. And, you know, get. I mean, you just be like, no. Because of those eight minutes.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Well, no, if that was my career I was thinking about right now, I don't know if it'd be worth it to me, because that's got to be just unbelievably scary to lose all communications with the people that. Trying to guide you to the ocean so you can land safely.
Matt Jones
Do you think when you're up in space and kind of floating around, would you be worried about the thing that's to come a few days later? Would it get into your mind and make it not to where you could enjoy so much this amazing time? No.
Ryan Lemond
And I'm. They've had so much training and been preparing for this for so long.
Matt Jones
They have no control. Part of it is, like, you're also not in control. You're just falling.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, I would be. I would love to do it. I don't think I have the education that I would get that opportunity, but if I would love to do it, and I would handle the eight minutes to be able to experience the rest of it.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
If you believe Hollywood, you're falling, you're spinning, you're tumbling. It's like it's spinning you around like crazy for eight minutes. I ain't doing that.
Matt Jones
I mean, aren't you just. Aren't you just, like, in a seat belt? What do you mean? The. You mean the. The. The capsule is spinning or yourself in
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Hollywood, the capsule spinning.
Matt Jones
And those are movies. They was not. Those are not documented, but that's what's
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
going through my head. Just give me a Benadril, knock me out, I sleep through it.
Matt Jones
Well, that's a good.
Ryan Lemond
I think they might need you alert eight minutes later.
Matt Jones
You might need to land in the water after that.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
I ain't doing it.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan)
All right.
Ryan Lemond
Well, he had strong thoughts about the bathroom while you were going.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Would you say they had bathroom problems like, two or three times?
Matt Jones
Shut up. I don't want to hear you talk about a bathroom anymore.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Stinky situation.
Matt Jones
All right. Shut up. By the way, did you see. Has anyone here seen the. The big, huge movie about space, the project Hail Mary? Is he missing? You see that? No one see, like everyone in the world seen it gets. No one here. Just me and you. Well, then I'm only really talking to you, sir. I don't understand why everybody liked it so much. He's just talking to a rock for two hours, like, for people. He just. I didn't. I don't know what I thought it was about. I didn't know anything about it. I didn't know I was gonna watch a guy talk to a rock for two hours and I was supposed to, like, think they were friends. Did you. Was it meaningful to you? It was okay, but ET I a cuter face. This was just a rock. It was just a rock with arms. I just never got it. I mean, I.
Ryan Lemond
Is it like Castaway with Tom Hanks and a volleyball? He's just talking to that for two hours, kind of.
Matt Jones
But in this case, the rock is talking back, but it's not speaking English. Although I never really understood how the computer was supposed to have been able to translate his language. But regardless, it, you know, it sounds like a big endorsement around me. There were people around me in the theater crying. Like, literally there were people crying when I won't spoil it. But the rock and he don't get to get married. So there were people. There were people that were crying and I, I didn't. I don't know. I just felt like, what. What am I missing? He's talking to a rock and like, what is. I don't know. So I'd be interested if you go and see it. You know, it's. It's good. It's sounds like.
Ryan Lemond
It sounds like you're a big fan.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Yeah, you sold it really well.
Matt Jones
But there are people who are saying it's like the best movie they've seen in years. And I, I just. I feel like I'm fundamentally missing because it's. Because the only. The whole movie is him talking to this rock. And it's long. It's like seven and a half hours long. I don't know.
Ryan Lemond
So it doesn't get the Matt Jones movie list at the end of the year.
Matt Jones
I mean, I'm not going to go again, but, but, but I, I was like, I'm going to see what's it called, the drama or something that out right now. I want to see that, but I'm not going to see the rock movie anymore. Who's up next? Jordan is up next. Jordan. Go ahead, Jordan. Hey, Matt.
Caller
So I think as fans, we can all agree that, you know, in the NIL era, Kentucky sports hasn't really been, you know, what we have hoped for. And I'm trying to decide maybe what, you know, the big problem is. And I kind of narrowed it down to two different schools of thought and I wanted to see what your thoughts were so the first one is, is it a problem of expectations? And what I mean by that is, you know, you just said Providence loaded up on Miles Byrd.
Matt Jones
I'm gonna answer your first one. It's not. I'm tired and I'm gonna continue to be tired of people. And I know that you're not doing this, you're just suggesting it, but people have to stop acting like our expectations are unreasonable. This is Kentucky basketball. I'm not asking us to win every national championship. I'm asking us to not be lose 14 games and lose to Missouri and Georgia at home and lose by 40 to Gonzaga. Like, I'm not, I'm not asking for unreasonable things. Now, in football, sometimes our expectations are unreasonable. But to be fair, we won, you know, four games back to back. I don't think it's unreasonable to say, can we compete to go to a bowl every year? So I'm going to disagree with number one. So what's the next?
Caller
Let me, let me, let me sort of, maybe it's other programs expectations. Like Providence doesn't expect to be good every year. So once every three to five years
Matt Jones
they can just say, we beat Santa Clara. We beat Santa Clara. After hitting a miracle half court shot at the buzzer to send it to overtime. We probably spent 10 times more money of nil on our program than Santa Clara. It's not ridiculous to think, hey, can we not need a miracle shot to go to overtime to Santa Clara?
Caller
Okay. And then the other, the other one I had was potentially a question of resources. So like, obviously, you know, there are football schools like Ohio State, Ole Miss, South Carolina that don't really care about basketball. They just load up on football. There are basketball schools that don't care about football, like St. John's UConn, and then there are schools that do both but had a lot of really rich donors like, okay, you know, like those.
Matt Jones
Yeah, but that's not our issue from what I've been told. And again, I'm not in the balance in the budget. I do not think amount of money is our problem. Yeah, now it might be one day, but as of today, I don't think, at least in the last few years, Drew, the, the amount of money we've had is wrong. I mean, literally, we spent more on our roster than almost any team in the country last year. So clearly the amount of money was not wrong. Now I do think football, maybe two or three years ago, amount of money was an issue. I do not think it's an issue right now. But what might be an issue is how that money is allocated and some of the provisions that are used to allocate the money. But I don't think to your point, does Michigan and Texas have more money than us? Yes. Are they always going to have more money than us? Yes. But at least in the last few years, I don't think it's been amount of money so much as how it has been used.
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Ryan Lemond
I don't disagree. There you go.
Matt Jones
Appreciate the. Really.
Ryan Lemond
I'll just go eat lunch at Costco. Don't need anything.
Matt Jones
Top three pizza.
Ryan Lemond
Top three is pretty strong, but it's easily top ten. Maybe top five for me.
Matt Jones
Now I will say this in terms of money, I don't think money's been our issue in the last three years. But I do think there's a red flag out there that almost no one has talked about. For the first time in my lifetime of covering UK sports, one of the things Mitch Barnhart has been very proud of for 20 years is that UK Athletics was self sustaining. They paid for themselves. Right. They didn't take any money from the university, they didn't take any money from students. It was actually there weren't too many athletic departments that did it. UK did it. Kind of buried in all the news about, you know, we're making the athletics board private. We're giving Mitch this goodbye package, all this stuff. UK Athletics took like a $50 million loan from the university. That is not sustainable long term. Now it may be okay right now, but I mean that they took a massive. Yeah, I don't think UK Athletics has ever had to take a loan from the university. UK Athletics took this big loan. I will say, Ryan, long term they've got to find a way to fix the budget because they're not gonna be able to do that.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Is the 50 million dollar hit from lack of success in football and basketball are two prime programs.
Matt Jones
I mean I think it's all of a sudden you had $21 million a year in rev share you had to give and you've never been budgeting for that $21 million. So all of a just got $21 million added to the budget. So I understand why they had to do it but they've got to find a way to make that up in the future. They won't be able to keep doing.
Ryan Lemond
No, I can't do that. And I worry, you know, they're planning this big entertainment district that they think is going to bring in a lot of revenue. But just as someone who knows the Lexington dining and going out scene a little bit, I worry that even that'll work and they could get even farther in the hole. I mean, that'll be great on game days, but whatever that ends up being, what's that going to be like on a Monday in the summer? You know, I wonder if that's going to be as profitable as they think it's going to be.
Matt Jones
Well, I mean, one of the problems about UK athletics bec a private LLC and essentially a profit making enterprise, maybe that leads to a lot of success. But what if those businesses fail? You know what I mean? I mean, if UK athletics puts up a hotel, what if the hotel fails? Now it's not just the hotel failing. Maybe it's UK athletics failing. Like businesses fail, you know, and when you make a athletic department essentially a business, maybe you go gangbusters or maybe you go bust. And I think that is something that's at least a worry. Right?
Ryan Lemond
And now that they're doing all these LLCs, there's just one after another. They don't have to answer for much. And who knows how it'll turn out?
Matt Jones
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Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Peach iced tea.
Matt Jones
There's three more.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Strawberry.
Matt Jones
No.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Peach.
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No.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
BlackBerry. You just said peach BlackBerry.
Matt Jones
No.
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Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
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Matt Jones
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Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Yeah. What is it?
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Matt Jones
Blueberry.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
That's what I was trying to think.
Matt Jones
And then there's one more. Raspberry limeade.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Raspberry.
Matt Jones
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Matt Jones
It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Here live, Don Franklin Hyundai Back roads to Job Sites the Franklin Truck League is built for mud, muscle and miles here where legends are built At Don Franklin Audio we are auto. We are here in Somerset at the Hyundai. Good crowd here that's joined us for today. I want to note something before I go to the phones. Jeff Drummond, who many of you know the name for going back 25, almost 30 years, worked at the Cat's Paws for a long time then Cats Illustrated, has recently joined KSR Plus. A couple days ago the folks that run on 3 told us that they were making a change and that Jeff would no longer be part of House of Blue and part of KSR Plus. That was met online with a lot of negative reaction because Jeff Drummond is an awesome guy. He's. He's one of the few people covering UK sports, been doing it longer than I have and it was nice because he was. It was not nice. It happened, but it was nice how much people showcased how much they liked him. For those of you that follow UK Sports on the Internet, he goes back longer than anyone. So myself and Justin Roland, some other folks, we Tyler, we talked to the people at on three, the leaders and to their credit they reversed the decision. They kind of heard the fans brought him back. He will now be back with with the website. Jeff's one of the nicest people, Ryan I know. You've known him forever and it's very rare in today's sort of corporate world that a decision is made and then people actually listen to the consumers and then flip it, because businesses don't want to do that. But they did. I appreciate that. And it's nice to have Jeff Drummond doing what he's supposed to do, which is covering UK sports.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
I was so happy to see that. And I really commend on three for doing that, listening to the public, because Jeff Drummond is one of the best people you will ever meet in this business. I mean, he's been. Matter of fact, I think I sent Jeff his very first text message. That's how far back we go.
Matt Jones
We used to.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
We discovered text messages. Yes.
Matt Jones
What do you mean you sent him his first text message?
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
I did. You know, when cell phones finally came around? Late 90s, I sent him his first text message.
Matt Jones
How do you know that?
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Because he called me, like, what is this? I don't know what is.
T-Mobile Advertiser
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Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
How do I text you back?
Matt Jones
This is five years ago.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
True story.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Hang on just a second. So you're telling me.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Yep.
Matt Jones
What year is this?
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Late 90s, maybe early 2000s. I'm not certain.
Matt Jones
So you have a cell phone.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Yeah.
Matt Jones
You're a text, and I'm a new texter. And you sent. You send Jeff a text message?
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
He probably had some recruiting story. I needed the update, needed the scoop.
Matt Jones
And you tell me he had never gotten one until you said it.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Yeah. And he called me, like, what is this? How do I text you back?
Matt Jones
That's hard for me to believe.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
True story, facts.
Caller
All right.
Ryan Lemond
At the forefront of technology over here.
Matt Jones
I didn't realize I had my own Mark Zuckerberg standing next to me. But breaking the technology, to the world
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
of text messengers, he is one of the best guys. Not just. He's great at what he does. He's a better person. And I'm so happy to see him back in the fold.
Ryan Lemond
Well, good.
Matt Jones
By the way, I learned AI from Ryan, too. He sent me. Sent me chat, GPT. And what is this? Ryan Lemon, you're always on the forefront.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan)
Yeah.
Ryan Lemond
I hated that Jeff had to go through that. I know that was a rough 24 hours on him and his wife, but I hope he saw that response that night after the news leaked out. How many people appreciate him and love him, and I'm glad it got corrected. So stinks that he had to go through it, but I'm glad it's ended up the right way and the way it needs to be, because Jeff, as I wrote, I can't imagine UK Internet without Jeff Drummond being a part of it. I think 1999 was his first year.
Matt Jones
The first time I was on the Internet reading about UK sports was 1998, and I don't remember the names of the people who were doing it then, but I do remember Jeff. He was kind of the young guy at the time and now he's one of the old guard doing it. I'm glad to see personally, he's like
Ryan Lemond
the only person that talk. Well, I shouldn't say the only. But like any media event, Jeff. Jeff is quick to come up and start a conversation and say hi. He's just a great and friendly guy outside of the Internet too.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Yeah, he loves the Reds. He's a big Reds guy.
Matt Jones
Reds fan. Who's up next? Mike is up next. Mike, go ahead. Was Ryan Lemon the first person to send you a text message, Mike?
Caller
He was not. But I hate having to talk to you under these circumstances. Circumstances. But I must chastise you once again for besmirching the good name of the Hamburg Costco.
Ryan Lemond
Wow.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan)
I don't know.
Caller
I guess, you know, as. As somebody once told me, I guess you just don't get it. I mean, if you don't understand Costco, I guess you don't get it.
Matt Jones
But I don't get it. I freely acknowledge that I don't get it. And I'm not trying to be Mr. Unpopular with my Project Hail Mary tape take and my Costco take. I don't get it. But that's okay. You know, I.
Caller
It just feels like I must forewarn you. I do not think that talking down upon your newly. I guess your new area in Hamburg is a smart decision. I think it will continue to age poorly.
Matt Jones
Well, I mean, the good thing about, like Walmart type stores is that you can get whatever you need, but Costco just does the same thing. But then it's like 5,000 of them. And it just feels like, like if you were to sort of look at what the rest of the world thinks is wrong with America. It's when you walk into Costco and they're like, would you like 10,000 cleaner solutions? And you're like, man, I just want to be able to take the stain off my counter.
Ryan Lemond
I can't believe you compared it to Walmart. I'm now with the callers. We can't have this slander of Walmart.
Caller
That's kind of crazy, bro.
Matt Jones
I like Walmart. I appreciate the call. We have it in Middlesboro. We had the first Super Walmart in Kentucky in Middlesboro. Who's that?
Ryan Lemond
I think you just need to take one ride with the Kirkland toilet paper and you'll be in for Costco.
Matt Jones
Who's next?
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Michael Todd is next.
Matt Jones
Michael Todd, go ahead.
Caller
Hey, Matt, sorry if you already touched in on this, but I seen yesterday on Twitter, Jasper, Jasper Johnson's uncle, kind of running his mouth again. And I mean, that dude never stops. I mean, you would think that Jasper Johnson averaged 40 points and 15 rebounds last year. And then he's like. He's like. Without saying that, he's like, trying to pull the race card like Mark hooked racist or something.
Matt Jones
Well, he didn't say that, but. But, but I will say appreciate the call.
Ryan Lemond
He.
Matt Jones
I mean, at this point, he clearly likes the attention, and, you know, that's what it is.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
I.
Matt Jones
He played here, which makes it to where it's hard to just ignore what he says. At the same time, with respect to Derek, Jasper's now no longer on the team. So he kind of said his piece, and my view is we just kind of move on. So I did see that comment, but I didn't really feel like it was bringing up because what else is there to say? He's made it clear that he thinks Jasper was handled incorrectly. He's made it clear what he thinks about Pope. All right, you've made that clear. I think now we move on to these. Whoever these next players are, and we get ready and celebrate them, because Pope is going to still be here and Jasper is not. We'll take a break and be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back, Techie Sports radio here at Don Franklin Hyundai in Somerset. I was just saying to them during the break, you know, from the old. If for those of you that back watched Wrestlers when it came out on Netflix, I know a lot of people did a lot of names from that show. This weekend, they're doing another one of those slap fighting things, which I. I don't want to watch that. I don't think that's entertaining. It kind of freaks me out. But there are people that like it. Haley is in it. Wrestlers.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
She's big in it, isn't she?
Matt Jones
She's like, going for a belt. Okay, then they have two people. You may not remember, but they were in the show. Danny, Moe and Facade. They're in it. And then Shira is in it. I saw it on the market. Shira is massive. Whoever's getting slapped by him. Why in the world would you want to do that? I was like, is this just like everyone from. From the old OVW days? When is Shannon gonna be in it?
Ryan Lemond
Oh, we gotta get Shannon signed up for the slap fighting. That's crazy to me. Like, I'll watch about anything, but just sitting there and slapping each other back
Matt Jones
and forth is wild, I think. I think it's pretty crazy as well. You remember we said yesterday that on the Masters, Drew was going to name whoever wins the Masters? He was going to name his little baby girl that first name. And we talked about the options, and then we all did our picks. Ryan lemon picked Rory McElroy. I picked a guy named Sam Burns. And looking right now at the leaderboard, tied for first are Sam burns and Roy McElroy.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
There we go.
Matt Jones
Like me and Ryan Lemon, I see
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
a Samantha Rory Franklin coming in your future.
Ryan Lemond
He could be.
Matt Jones
I mean, that is actually a legitimate. That could be a name of a girl. Samantha Rory Franklin.
Ryan Lemond
And I would probably get slapped. Jose Maria fell off. I was really counting on that one. It was a fun hour there.
Matt Jones
But are you proud? You and I, we know ball, we know golf. We.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
I did a lot of show prep last night, picking my golfer.
Matt Jones
You knew literally one golfer's name.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
I knew the guy that won last year. Let's go with him.
Matt Jones
Repeat yesterday, Derek Abney, UK football practice. Former Derek Abney was at the practice along. And there's video. Will Stein had him speak to the team. I think it's very cool, Drew, to see Will Stein kind of embrace. It's interesting because Will Stein grew up during the Tim Couch Derek Abney era. So all these guys who were like, my childhood slash, you know, high school people, I watched, that's who he watched, too. So he's enamored by them. So Derek Abney spoke to the team yesterday. I think that's cool.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, that's just added to all the excitement coming out of that building now. I mean, till they play actual football, you know, they're winning everything right now with the publicity. But it started like he was shouting out Raphael Little in his first interviews. He'll just randomly take pictures around the facility of legends. Andre Woodson came back a week or two ago. I mean, we haven't heard from Andre Woodson in forever. He was in practice. So I love that Will and their staff are including all these legends, I'd say, from the program's past, a big
Matt Jones
group of people that I know, including Max, they all went to practice yesterday, and they were saying, like, dude, the energy is amazing. Just the what? Like, people are so into it. The players are dialed in. He was like, it looks like so much fun. And they all had the same thing, Ryan. They said, our offensive line looks like the guys we used to play against Alabama and he was like, you know, if you just look at them, they look like an Alabama, LSU offensive. He was like, we. We can see where the money went when it comes to that offensive line.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
It's so crazy. The two or three guys I've talked to him into practice say the same thing. The energy is unbelievable. And the offensive line is massive. Huge.
Matt Jones
I mean, I'm glad, like said, literally the starting offensive line. The word was that. It looked to me like when we played Alabama, yeah, line was a huge priority.
Ryan Lemond
But also love how young these coaches are and how they're getting into it. Yesterday the cornerbacks coach was available after practice and he had a splint on and he broke his finger by jumping in practice and trying to do the peanut punch. I mean, they're not just sitting on the sideline with clipboards and blowing whistles. They're getting out there and trying to mix it up and be a part of it.
Matt Jones
You like our coaches getting injured?
Ryan Lemond
Not injured, but I mean, respectfully, to the last staff, I don't think those guys were getting out there and getting on the field 10 toes down, as coach Alan Brand Brown said yesterday. But I like that they're still young enough to really get, you know, fill it and be a part of it.
Caller
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Who's up next? Taylor is up next. Taylor. Go ahead, Taylor.
Caller
Hey, guys. Excited to hear that J Drum is back. Glad to hear that news. I just wanted to say I think this weekend that we are due for some good basketball recruiting news since Gary's gonna be occupied with the baby and I'm getting married. So I feel like we're. We're putting some good vibes out in the.
Matt Jones
It's a good time for news to come out, right? Like during this.
Caller
Well, and. And I think with the Nike hoops of that, maybe we get the. I'm wishful thinking, but I also used to be a Costco hater, but we're also using Costco cake as our wedding cake. So I can't really be.
Matt Jones
What do people not do? Do you just like they. So they do pizza, hot dogs, wedding cake, toilet paper.
Ryan Lemond
They do it all. Tires, golf clubs.
Matt Jones
But see, do we want to have one company running all of our stuff?
Ryan Lemond
I think that would be. Amazon would be the problem there. Okay, true, but you just need to experience Costco.
Matt Jones
I have, and I felt like I needed a shower when it was over.
Ryan Lemond
That can be the case.
Matt Jones
I appreciate the call. Who's next? Kevin is up next. Kevin, Go ahead, Kevin.
Caller
Yeah, I just Got kind of wanted to make an argument for retaining talent and paying them, even if it's a little higher than what they. What they think. But because, you know, there's some. There's only so many studs, the axles in the portal. So let's just say hypothetically we get, you know, Diallo and then the Syracuse power forward. That's basically another OA and, And Aberdeen. So. And then, you know, we fill that out with. With the. With the role players, the guy from Colgate we're looking at and, you know, some other. And that Colgate guy's worth, like, I think he's ranked 140th. So my point is I think the
Matt Jones
Colgate guy's a backup. So if they bring in the Colgate guy, he's. You're. Look, they're bringing him in as a backup, I would assume.
Caller
Okay, so here's my hypothetical or here's my question then. Would you rather not over. Look, pay. Overpay a little bit for yellow bitch and Chandler or have. Or have the. The Colgate guy?
Matt Jones
But I mean, why do you think I say this? Chandler. I wish stay. Okay. I do wish Chandler stayed. But, like, take yellow bitch. I like Yellow Vich, but I would make the argument that there are 40 yellow bitches in the portal. That there's like. Like he's. I like him, but on a really good team, Yellow Vich is a backup. So I feel like we can go find another yellow Chandler's a different conversation. But do you disagree?
Caller
I don't know if there's a 47 footer or six 11 guys that can shoot the three and pass the way he can, but there's a lot of
Matt Jones
guys who can't rebound and can't play defense. I mean, while I agree with you, not everybody can shoot like him. He's a really good shooter and he's unique in that regard, but he is a terrible rebounder and a really bad defender. So, I mean, yes, for a big. There aren't a lot of guys that shoot like him. I will agree with that. But what. But like a lot of people, he giveth, but he taketh away.
Caller
Yeah, good points. I think there's a ton of value, though. And we know those guys have been here. They. They've seen what it. What it's like to play at uk and to me, if you got to pay him a million more to get them here, you know, do it. I mean, I just think they're more valuable than guys that are going to be role players and bench Players, and we're bringing them in, and they're. They are unproven.
Matt Jones
All right, I appreciate the call. So let me put it a different way, Drew. Bill Simmons, who I've listened to for many, many, many years, he. When he's talking about in the. In the NBA draft, he always does his draft preview, and they say this every year. And I really like this because it makes me think he'll say, all right, I just watched the NBA Finals, whoever played, and when he's looking at draft people, he'll go, could this guy have played in that game? Could you have put him in that game and he could fit in? And Bill says, when you're down to two players, ask yourself that question. I actually like that as a stat. So here's my question for you. We just watched the Final Four. How many guys on our roster do you look at? And you go, they could have played in those games? All right, I think always. Certainly could have. I think Aberdeen could have. I think Moreno could have. Although he would have had a physical difficulty with it. Chandler could have, but probably coming off the bench. But in my opinion, if you don't look at a guy on your roster and say, he could have played in that Michigan Yukon game, then it's not the worst thing in the world. Drew, if you're replacing them for somebody else, I'm not saying that he would have been the best player, but can he. Could he have just played in that game?
Ryan Lemond
I don't think we had many that could have, especially with the physicality. It might be oa, Aberdeen and Diabate off the bench for me. And I love Malachi. We saw Malachi on the tournament. Yeah, I mean, I love Malachi, and I'm glad he's back, but I don't think as a freshman, he could have done much in that game either. Now I think he'll make a big jump, but, no, I don't think many people on that roster could have. Could have held up. I mean, I even said that night, like, they were playing a different sport than what Kentucky played.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Yeah. The Final Four games were so physical and rough. Not a lot of great outside shooting. So I don't know how much Chandler would have played. I think it would have been like Drew's. I think the Abbott, he may have played the most minutes of anybody in the Final Four.
Matt Jones
I will say about Chandler, I agree with you. That thing, all things being equal, I'd rather have Chandler, but I don't know that you can. Page, if you. As I said yesterday, if you were going to pay Chandler what he wanted. He needed to be our second best player on the team. Team. So the question you have to ask yourselves. Do you think we could have made a final four next year with Colin Chandler as the second best player on the team? If the answer is yes, then I understand being disappointed that he's gone. If the answer is no, he wanted us to pay him like the second best player on the team. And I don't drew think he could have been the second best player on a final 14.
Ryan Lemond
I'm his biggest fan. I agree. And on the point of overpaying, like you just said, pay Chandler and yellow Vic each an extra million. Well, that's 2 million you got and get a pretty good player that you would be overpaying.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I mean, if you wanted to pay Chandler and yellow Vic each a million more, then you would have needed Chandler to be the second best player on the team and yellow Vetch to be the fourth best player on the team. And let's assume Moreno, by what you're paying him, is the third best player on the team. Can you win a national championship with one really good player off the portal? Chandler, Moreno, and yic. And what I would say to you is, we started Chandler, Moreno, and Yich this year.
Ryan Lemond
We're running it back.
Matt Jones
We had two guys better than those guys, and you saw how good we were. We're essentially just running it back. And I, Ryan, don't think that would be what you would do.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Like I said yesterday, with all due respect to Colin Chandler, they need to go out and get a couple guys better than him. If they want to make a run and get Kentucky basketball back. They need guys that are better than Colin Chandler.
Matt Jones
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Matt Jones
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Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
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Matt Jones
Okay, but that. You're on the website. You're the news. What? Spf.
Ryan Lemond
Not the phone number.
Matt Jones
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Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
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Matt Jones
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Ryan Lemond
I'm wearing mine right now.
Matt Jones
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Ryan Lemond
I wear sunscreen every day.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan)
You should.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio final segment. Big weekend of portal Zoom Diallo. Gonna visit UK and also, you know, there may be other people too. We don't, we don't know. I mean we, we only know of Zoom but usually they do these things in pairs or two or three. So I would wouldn't be shocked if there's someone else that's coming to all weekend. You know, I don't, I would say this is a great weekend to be a subscriber of KSR plus because between Jacob and Jack and Jeff Drummond and Justin and, and well, Drew's going to be having a baby. But all of these folks there is going to be a lot of information. I think it's going to, I think this weekend's when the dam breaks, for instance, tomorrow at Keeneland, they're going to have those of you at Keeneland, you are all of our reporters tomorrow, because there will be Kentucky players at Keelan tomorrow, and it's going to be up to y' all to capture them, because I bet you there will be. There might be people out there today, but I know there will be UK prospective basketball players drew out there tomorrow.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan)
Yep.
Ryan Lemond
And Zoom has already landed. He tweeted a picture from the locker room. I do think back to last year when we took Lamar Wilkins into the winter circle, and we're like, we got this guy. We took him to the Keeneland winter circle and showed him our horses. Then the next day, he picks another school. But it is important to get those guys out there.
Matt Jones
You think Keelan works? Because we. We did go, like, over four last year on Keeneland, people.
Ryan Lemond
It works in the sense that Kentucky's one of the only places where, like, everyone recognizes these guys, so they get mobbed by the fans. As far as the. The horses and the burgoo, I don't know if that's gonna have a big impact, but putting them out in front of so many people that know who they are, it really helps.
Matt Jones
Well, the first year Pope was here, Keeneland, we were, like, five for five on Keene. Mari was one of Mari, Andrew Carr, I think Lamont. But, like, we were. We got them all. Then last year, we weren't. So we need to get Keeneland Ryan back on the good side, because you're not gonna have two better days to go out there than today and tomorrow.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
That's what I was gonna say. I think there's picture perfect weather to take somebody out there and show the beauty of Keeneland. You get that, then when you walk in, it just feels like you're in a special place. Hopefully, the recruits will feel that.
Matt Jones
Yes. 859-280-2287. Who's up next? Ryan is up next. Ryan, Go ahead, Ryan.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan)
Hey, Matt. I'm gonna get right to it. Try to make this quick. I want to thank you for turning me on to the Neighbors series.
Matt Jones
Oh, so good.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan)
And I was watching it. Yeah, great. And I was watching it the last episode there. And as I'm watching it, I'm watching it with my wife, interestingly enough. And I realized that he.
Caller
He.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan)
They sent him to the colony down here in Hudson, Florida, and that's where I live. No, I live in Hudson, Florida. Let's get that straight, man.
Matt Jones
You live in the town, not the nudist. Colony itself. Okay, gotcha.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan)
Yes, correct. So I'm telling my friend the other day, we're riding down the road. I'm telling him about the show and about how it's here in Hudson and there are several different nudist colonies here. Yeah, he does mobile work, and he got. He got a call and they needed. They needed somebody to come out to one of those places and change a tire. So he. He brought his guys in the office and he says, listen, you know, I'm sending you out here to this place, and it's a nudist colony, so, you know, people are going to be naked. They were like, no problem, boss. No problem at all. Well, he said that the punchline is they don't allow anybody with clothes on out there. So you guys are gonna have to disrobe before you change his tie. And I thought it was fun.
Matt Jones
No, it's good. They did. Your guys didn't sign up and go, yes.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan)
No, no. The guys were like, nope, we're out, boss. Can't do it.
Matt Jones
Okay, gotcha. Why I appreciate the call that it is odd. All the nudists go to this town where this man. This man lives, and then you go from there. Again, I. I highly recommend the show. I. I can say five episodes, everyone will like. People have different views about the sixth one, but the other five are.
Caller
All.
Matt Jones
Are gold.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
It's kind of crazy. There's one of these places in this. In this town to have eight of these kind of places.
Matt Jones
But that's kind of good. Like, it's right.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan)
Drew.
Matt Jones
Everybody needs to be around people of like, you know, just be like. So they all go there and then
Ryan Lemond
you got variety, though.
Matt Jones
Maybe they don't bother everybody. Like, they don't bother everybody else everywhere else.
Ryan Lemond
How do you pick your community, though? Like, do you tour these?
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
And it' what Danny was doing. Danny was taking a tour of this one.
Ryan Lemond
Now, I wonder how you decide which one you. Because like Ryan said, you think one would be enough for everyone. But they have options. They have options.
Matt Jones
Who's next? Competition.
Ryan Lemond
Live your life.
Matt Jones
This world. Brian is up next. Brian, go ahead. Go ahead, sir. All right, who's next? Rick. Okay, Mike is up next. Mike, go ahead.
Caller
Hey, guys.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan)
Just wanted to remind everybody that there
Caller
is pro football in Louisville tonight. The Louisville Kings play The Orlando Storm, 8 o' clock at Lynn Family. Come on out. Hey, I tell you guys, if you haven't been yet, you ought to check it out. It is real pro football. It's a lot of fun, too.
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Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Yes.
Matt Jones
Everybody wish you the best.
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, this is I guess my last show.
Matt Jones
I wish you the best.
Ryan Lemond
Take take care of Matt Ryan. I got him. Take care of Ryan.
Matt Jones
I look forward to coming to either the hospital or after and visiting the young one. And I still remember meeting 21 year old Drew along.
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That person did not need a child
Matt Jones
and now he's going to have a child. And I'm proud of you and thank you all.
Caller or Guest (possibly Ryan Lemon)
Super proud.
Matt Jones
Praying for you and Abby and the future. Samantha, Rory Franklin, we will see you later. Thank you Don Franklin. See you Monday. Hi, this has been Kentucky Sports Radio. What's up cousin?
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Episode Date: April 10, 2026
Host: Matt Jones
Notable Crew: Ryan Lemond, Drew Franklin (remote mentions)
Location: Live from Don Franklin Hyundai, Somerset, KY
This episode of Kentucky Sports Radio delivers classic KSR banter while diving into the heart of UK Athletics’ current state: NIL challenges, roster retention, and financial red flags. The crew takes live calls that spark spirited debates ranging from UK’s basketball expectations, the Allen Fieldhouse transfer portal, Costco pizza rankings, to who should be retained on the team at what cost. Along the way, there’s friendly roasting, nostalgia, and some sentimental moments as Drew Franklin prepares for fatherhood.
[03:48 – 06:44]
Matt and Ryan discuss the struggles of furnishing a new home as grown men—Matt admits to having “college furniture” and an antique desk that’s “a hundred years old and weighs 50,000 pounds.”
Ryan identifies with Matt, also having to upgrade from his bachelor days.
Notable Quote:
“If you walked into my living space...you’d probably think, ‘this guy’s just 24, but reads a lot of books.’” – Matt Jones [04:49]
[06:44 – 12:09]
Matt reflects on the re-entry phase of NASA’s Artemis/Orion pod—eight minutes without ground communication:
Quick review of the film "Project Hail Mary": Matt didn’t connect with the “talking to a rock for two hours” angle; others found it poignant.
Memorable Exchange:
“Give me Benadryl, knock me out, I sleep through it.” – Ryan Lemond [09:55]
"There were people in the theater crying...I just felt like, 'What am I missing?’ He’s talking to a rock!” – Matt Jones on "Project Hail Mary" [11:29]
[12:26 – 17:46]
Caller Jordan posits: Is UK’s recent underperformance about expectations or resources?
Notable Quote:
“People have to stop acting like our expectations are unreasonable. This is Kentucky basketball.” – Matt Jones [12:56]
“One of the things Mitch Barnhart has been very proud of for 20 years is that UK Athletics was self sustaining... UK Athletics took like a $50 million loan from the university. That is not sustainable long term.” – Matt Jones [16:10]
Ryan voices concern about plans for a UK Athletics “entertainment district”—great on game days, but will it float the budget the rest of the year?
[22:44 – 26:46]
Jeff Drummond, a beloved UK sports journalist, was suddenly let go, but after vocal fan outcry and intervention, was reinstated at “KSR Plus.”
Ryan humorously recalls sending Drummond his first text message in the late 1990s.
Notable Quote:
“It’s very rare in today’s sort of corporate world that a decision is made...and then people actually listen to the consumers and flip it.” – Matt Jones [24:10]
“I sent Jeff his first text message. That’s how far back we go.” – Ryan Lemond [24:33]
[26:57 – 35:36]
[35:36 – 41:28]
Caller Kevin argues for “overpaying” proven players to stay—Matt and crew disagree:
Notable Quote:
“If you don’t look at a guy on your roster and say, ‘He could have played in that Michigan-UConn game,' then it’s not the worst thing in the world if you’re replacing them...” – Matt Jones [38:39]
[31:50 – 33:50]
[33:50 – 34:22]
[48:30 – 50:31]
[46:14 – 48:21]
“Zoom Diallo” visits UK—this weekend could spark major recruiting news, and fans at Keeneland are encouraged to report sightings.
Discussion of whether Keeneland visits actually sway recruits—mixed record, but “the energy matters.”
Notable Quote:
“This weekend’s when the dam breaks…there’s going to be a lot of information.” – Matt Jones [46:44]
[52:00 – 52:22]
This episode is a quintessential KSR blend: UK Athletics analysis, passionate fan engagement, behind-the-scenes stories, and plenty of food and furniture jokes. The central theme is one of transition—UK sports adapting to NIL, fans navigating new realities, and the crew marking a big personal milestone as Drew welcomes a child. The pulse of the bluegrass is strong—frustrations, hope, and above all, community.
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