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Matt Jones
It is our number two here, Kentucky sports Radio in Clay county in Manchester. Come on now, this is you can do better than that, Clay County. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. There we go here at the opening of the Freedom House Volunteers of America Mid States. I want to give a shout out, first of all, the sponsors, First national bank of Manchester, the Dave Flannery Veterans Support Fund, and the People's Rural Telephone Cooperative. Also to these folks right here, this is the acres of Grace Farm in Big Creek. I have to tell you, I've been hearing about Big Creek in Sneadville. I didn't know we had a big creek in Kentucky, but Big Creek here in Clay County. This food, awesome.
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Ryan Lemond
So good.
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Matt Jones
You've been around since 2001, is that right? I gotta go by there. Like that food is awesome. From Big Creek, the acres of Grace Farm, we've all been chomping on it during the break.
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Ryan Lemond
Those little pinwheel sandwiches we got are fantastic. Well done.
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Matt Jones
That's well done. All right, so, Ryan, we're in Clay County. Give us a little Clay county facts. We got obviously. Richie, give me some more Clay county people. Bobby Keith, the legendary coach.
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Ryan Lemond
Well, we're talking about Bobby Keith. They have an invitational now in his honor. And coming up with the 40th anniversary of the 87 team. You know, he just passed away. One of the greatest coaches this state has ever seen. And the guys that played for him may not have liked it at the time, but they loved that man. You know, one of those guys, you just love the fact you got to play for a legend like Bobby Keith and other players. Richie Farmer.
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Matt Jones
Well, what about the rest of them?
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Ryan Lemond
Richie Farmer's brother. And then there's Richie Farmer.
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Matt Jones
Wait a minute. Wasn't there in there like a. Chadwell, Russ Chadwell. And then who else am I missing? What was the kid that was like 15? What?
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Ryan Lemond
Box head.
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Matt Jones
Box Head. I don't think that was his birth name. Was not Box Head.
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Ryan Lemond
We've talked about this. You go watch Clay county play any year, there's always one big burly dude playing center.
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Matt Jones
Well, I've told this story many times, but it's my. It's. It's my favorite Clay county story. At the Sweet sixteen, when I was in college, Clay county was playing and they had a big, huge dude, probably 270 in the middle in like the late 90s. And they got into a little argument and I was in the Clay county student section and I looked at the kid next to me and I said, will that guy fight? And he looked at me dead serious and goes, son, we're from Clay County. We all fight. And I felt like that was a pretty good. Pretty good explanation.
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Ryan Lemond
When you think, to me, I've always thought when you think of the 13th region, man, you immediately think of Clay County. And I think it's because what Richie and those guys did back in the late 80s kind of brought more attention to this area of the state as far as basketball talent.
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Matt Jones
I still think if you, if you're talking about the history of Kentucky high school basketball and you were to talk about the three to five best moments in the history of Kentucky high school basketball, the two year back to back Ballard, Clay county games, when you consider like the, like the city of Louisville, kind of a city school in Louisville in the country, both times, if I remember correctly, Richie, you had a huge game and Ballard won. And then Allen Houston had a huge game and y' all won, Am I right? In those two years, and Alan Houston and Richie, I think that was really Kentucky basketball at its best.
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Ryan Lemond
I've always heard this story. I should ask Christy if it's true. After they won the state finals, I heard there was a line of people from the interstate here to Manchester, what is like 25 miles. The line, the street where you guys in a fire get to finally get to the fire truck to go down through downtown.
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Matt Jones
That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. Did you consider Richie Ballard your big rival, even though you all were so far away? Yeah.
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Shannon Dawson
You want to bring him up here? I mean, he's right there.
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Matt Jones
I like to talk to him from over there. Yeah. Come on up, Richie. You can join us here in just a second. Okay, so I do want to tell one story real quick. Ryan, you may not know this, okay? Shannon and I watched it last night. So this is The. We don't talk a lot of hockey on here, but my Carolina Hurricanes are playing the Ottawa Senators. All right, you have to follow me on this. Ottawa. In Canada, the Ottawa Senators have not been good in years. So this kid that was an Ottawa Senators fan, he makes a rap video about how the Senators are going to beat the Hurricanes. It's the dorkiest rap video you've ever seen. You've got to look it up. It cannot be dorky.
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Shannon Dawson
It's to the spoof of M M's without me.
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Richie Farmer
Right?
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Matt Jones
It's to the spoon, but it's so terrible. And as soon as he puts it up, everyone on the Internet ridicules him. And all the Ottawa fans are like, dude, what are you doing? You embarrassed us. This is terrible. First two games are in Carolina, Ryan. All the bad luck goes against Ottawa. They hit the goal post a lot. They. They lose both games. And it was. They were kind of unlucky. So before game three, all the fans online are like, this kid's video ruined our chances. You know what the Ottawa Senators do?
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Ryan Lemond
What?
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Matt Jones
They bought him a plane ticket and flew him to Taiwan to get as far away from the arena as possible. And he did a video where he said, apparently, I'm bad luck, so I've come to Taiwan until the series is over. The senator sent him to Taiwan to keep him away from the games. Is that mean or is that not? He got a free trip to Taiwan.
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Shannon Dawson
I mean, that's what I'm thinking here. I got a free vacation out of the deal. Clearly at work, because now they're down 3.
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Matt Jones
Is that mean or not?
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Ryan Lemond
I thought you were going to say the. The Ottawa Senators brought him to the next game, set him front row, gave him a jersey. I thought we were headed that way.
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Matt Jones
Send him to Taiwan.
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Ryan Lemond
Totally didn't see that coming. That's a little brutal to send the guy to Taiwan.
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Matt Jones
So then, by the way, they played last night with him in Taiw, Taiwan, and they lost again. But that's the way it goes. He ends up getting a free.
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Ryan Lemond
So they gotta. He's got to come home now. They're gonna let the guy come home.
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Matt Jones
I'm not sure what they're gonna do. I want to go back. Richie is now on here for PE, the 87 team. People of a certain age know it. But you guys, I mean, those games against Ballard, two of the great high school games of all time. Do you like. Is that like, your basketball? You were that in the 92 game. Which one sticks out the most?
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Richie Farmer
Well, you Know, obviously, I've told people a lot that, you know, when you play in high school, you're still. It's still. Because you just love the game. I mean, you're playing with your friends you grew up with. It's a little bit different. And, you know, I remember every play of every game, just about, you know, when I was playing in high school. But then when you go to college, it becomes a little bit different. It's more of a job, and it's a. It's a little bit different feeling. But obviously, the 92 game, you know, to say that you was a small part of the greatest game ever played, that's. That's pretty, pretty cool to say.
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Matt Jones
That's exactly right. Now, you, Mark Pope, you've gotten to know over the years he played. After you, you feel like he's going to kind of get it going and turn it around.
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Richie Farmer
Well, you know, I'm. I'm a lot like you. Obviously, I know. Of course I know Coach Pope. When he played there, I was very close to the program. I was in the locker room with him the night they won the National Championship 96 in New Jersey. So, you know, we all went out in New York that night. I was right there.
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Ryan Lemond
Oh, you.
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Matt Jones
Wait a minute. Richie Farmer went out in New York City. Where did you go in New York City?
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Richie Farmer
Well, we went to a few different places. I don't, I will tell you afterwards.
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Matt Jones
I don't know if I've ever heard the story about the 96 team celebrating in New York City. I would like to hear that, but
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Richie Farmer
go ahead, I'll tell. Yeah, I went with Kenny Walker. He and I, you know, he played with the Knicks. And so, you know, during that, that week, we went up a little early and we stayed at different places, but we rented a car and he, you know, he took me and showed me where Patrick, you and live, you know, and there's where we used to do this. You know, we went to Carnegie Deli and, you know, all the big spots. So it was pretty cool.
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Matt Jones
Well, good. All right. So do you think it's going to work out?
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Richie Farmer
I think so. You, you know, obviously, he's. He's a very smart coach, an intelligent coach. And with the nil the way it is today, I mean, it's a. It's a little bit different.
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Matt Jones
You ever look at Trent Noah over there? I saw Dan Mosley, man, go. You ever look at Trent Noah and Harlan and go, that could have been Richie Farmer. Can you imagine the Richie Farmer nil deal back if that if that had
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Richie Farmer
existed, I would have. I would have loved to have played in this area. I can tell you that he'd been
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Ryan Lemond
a multi, multi millionaire.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, he would have been. You'd have been selling insurance at the age of 18.
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Richie Farmer
But I'll tell you, you know, I think that, you know, he's, he's doing a good job. We just got to get some players. And I think, you know, just like you said with, you know, with Stokes, it's all about the perception of being able to get Stokes.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I completely agree with.
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Richie Farmer
After he gets here. But anyway.
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Matt Jones
All right, so Kentucky, there's some recruits we mentioned, the McBride kid. Kentucky's also bringing in Saint John's. I think his name is Assassin or Saint that who played for Patino. They got a bunch of players who are coming in over the next few days. You know, he's got to get some guys. I also think we've heard that they're going to be a couple guys that are in the draft declared right now that might pull out. But in my opinion, Ryan, Mark's got to get one, at least one stud over the next few days.
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Ryan Lemond
We thought, we said, you know, if they lost away and Aberdeen, he has go get two guys better even than those two guys. I feel like to make a run in the final four, maybe we got one. He's still one short. Still gotta get another one for sure.
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Shannon Dawson
Also had a visit from a seven foot five player. You want a seven foot five guy on your team?
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Matt Jones
Well, I mean, he's a seven foot five player that averaged two points a game last year at usc. I mean, I. As a backup piece, that's fine, but you can't be, I mean, you can't be relying on him. By the way, he would be the tallest player in UK basketball history. An inch taller than Shigar, who was 7 foot 4. So who's up next?
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Ryan Lemond
DW is up next.
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Matt Jones
DW, what's up?
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Caller
Hey, how's it going, guys? So good. I know this is probably a big ask because Matt hates it, but my birthday is coming up and I was wondering if I could do a little joke for y'. All.
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Matt Jones
No, no, no jokes. No jokes. We don't. We don't do jokes then.
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Caller
All right, so let's see here. Well, I had a question that I was going to call and ask on the 20th, but it's probably more of like a post game show question.
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Matt Jones
Tell you what. I. What I will say to you is I will say happy birthday joke if
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Caller
that makes it any better. It is Radio.
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Matt Jones
All right, fine. Tell your joke.
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Ryan Lemond
Come on, let him tell it.
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Matt Jones
Tell your joke.
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Caller
All right, so you know how it's funny how you can talk about someone's butt on the radio, but you can't talk about their entire butt? And what I mean by that is, you just can't mention.
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Matt Jones
All right, I'm gonna end the joke. Thank you very much. Happy birthday, and I appreciate the call.
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Shannon Dawson
That was a Ryan Lemon joke about that.
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Matt Jones
No jokes. Who's next?
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Richie Farmer
Dustin is up next.
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Matt Jones
Dustin. Go ahead, Dustin.
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Caller
My big thing that I've always wondered. I know C.M. newton did this. Why does the University of Kentucky not confer basketball decisions with Pat riley? The guy's 81 years old. He's not going to be around much longer and probably has more back.
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Matt Jones
I mean. What do you mean, conferred decisions with Pat Riley? What does that mean?
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Caller
I would say on coaching hires, on player development, on recruiting, anything. The guy's a wealth of knowledge, and it feels like we never talk to him.
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Matt Jones
Well, I mean, first of all, I don't know that we don't ever talk to him. But also, he's got to want to be involved. He has a job or at least has had a job for a long time, you know, but you can't tell
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Caller
me somebody at UK can't just say, hey, what's your.
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Matt Jones
Well, he's not going to know recruiting. I mean, like, he's not. Pat Riley's not going to know high school recruiting. He doesn't know those kids.
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Caller
No, I'm not saying he will, but the guy is around. I've been to several of the big tournaments around the country, and every now and then you see him at those.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, well, I appreciate the call. It is. It has been odd to me over the years, Ryan, that Pat Riley is not as associated with Kentucky basketball as you would think for a guy that is that famous. I'm not sure why that is, but it's always. It's always been kind of odd.
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Ryan Lemond
I used to have to give him a pass because, you know, he was coaching during the season when we were playing. Then he was a GM during the season when we were playing. He's retired now. You know, he did come back to the last celebration they had honoring them.
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Matt Jones
Did you ever get to know him during your time?
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Richie Farmer
I did not. He did come one time for something and he spoke, come in and during. Coach Patino had him come in and talk to us before the game, but I never did.
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Matt Jones
The only thing I ever heard about him is that he was on that side 66 team, the, the, the team that lost to Texas Western. And of course, you know, history has kind of made that a very important moment where, where the all black team beat an all white team. And you know, for Pat, I mean, we were kind of cast in the villain role in that. And I think for Pat, that's always been something that at least for a while, kind of kept him. He didn't want to be associated on the wrong side of this one of, of this moment. But nowadays, I mean, I'd love to have him back. I think it would be great. Everyone's checking the odds at Keeneland. But Don, against your skin health. While you're soaking up the sun and getting outside, make sure to see if anything's unusual on your skin. Go to the Kentucky Skin Cancer center locations in Owensboro, Bowling Green, Franklin, Glasgow and Powderley. I just got my skin checked the other day. You should as well. Kentucky skin cancer center.com 2708421999 it's the Kentucky Skin Cancer Center. We'll take a break and be right back here in Manchester. This is Kentucky sports Radio. We're lost and kickoff's coming up. I don't want to miss the lineup. I'm gonna ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the stadium.
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Richie Farmer
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Matt Jones
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Matt Jones
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Ryan Lemond
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Matt Jones
Visit spinquest.com for more details. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live in Manchester Freedom House, operated by Volunteers of America States. We have a couple open lines. Give us a shout. 859-280-2287. Just no jokes, please. You know, regular, regular calls. Couple things. First of all, sitting there, I was laughing during the break, thinking of Richie Farmer and Kenny Walker in 1996 in New York City. That sounds like a, that sounds like a movie. Also, since we're in the mountains, it is only appropriate to note today would have been Kwood Leopford's 100th birthday today.
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Ryan Lemond
Wow. Amazing.
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Matt Jones
He would be a hundred years old today. Rick Patino just put out a video honoring him for the fact that he was 100 years old. I mean, I, I'm looking around this crowd, some of you guys, are you all so young you wouldn't remember K with leopard? But for other people, myself included and those older than me, Kwood Leopford kind of was Kentucky basketball. And in part, I think, Richie, it was because he was from here, from the mountains. You were playing when he was there. He loved to talk to you. He loved that you said LSU as Alsu.
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Richie Farmer
And wrestling.
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Matt Jones
And wrestling. I mean, you got to know K. Would you know him better certainly than I do?
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Richie Farmer
I did. And you know, occasionally I'll see circulating online the deal where I'm, I got a chance to speak about him because when, you know, my senior year was his last year.
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Matt Jones
Yes.
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Richie Farmer
And so on senior day, they, after practice, you know, the, the sports information director just came in and said, well, Coach Patino and I have decided that you will represent all of the former players. And you'll say something about cable.
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Matt Jones
That's a lot of pressure.
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Richie Farmer
That was a lot of pressure, because I can tell you that, you know, playing ball, I would get nervous, but as soon as it's thrown up, you know, no big deal. But I can tell you that I didn't sleep well that night thinking, because here was the deal. I said, okay, what am I going to say? And they said, you'll think of something.
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Shannon Dawson
So, you know, the confidence in you.
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Richie Farmer
Well, yeah, they had a lot more confidence in me than I had in myself at the time. But I can tell you, you know, I just got to thinking about it and I said, what hasn't been said about K. Wood already? But I got a chance to say that, you know, he. He certainly was one of my heroes. And like you said, growing up in Eastern Kentucky, and. And people don't realize it wasn't like it is today, where every game is available on tv. Maybe three, four games a year was on national tv. And so, you know, I used to. I said that night that K. Wood was the eyes and ears. He was Kentucky basketball to most of the fans in Eastern Kentucky, because that's the way that they heard it through his.
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Matt Jones
Through his word and coming from, you know, Harlan county and coming up through. I mean, he was. He was the voice, not just of Kentucky in the tournament. He would do the national championship. He very famously did the Kentucky duke game in 92, then went and did the national championship game where Duke played Michigan. That was actually his last game. And somebody came up to him and said, k. Wood, you know, congrats on your last game. And he said, my last game was last week in Philly, which is one of my greats, which is, I think, one of the neat kind of stories of all time. I also love the legend of K. Wood, Leadford Ryan, that he used to smoke cigarettes during the game and keep them under the table there. And he was kind of a legendary figure in that kind of thing.
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Ryan Lemond
That's a fact. He. During, like, commercial breaks, he would smoke real quickly and blow smoke underneath the scores table.
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Shannon Dawson
Did it, I would imagine if you're K, would they give you a little
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Matt Jones
bit of leeway, let you do it? They would. I don't know if they would let everybody do that.
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Shannon Dawson
They can't kick him out. He's kind of an important part of this game.
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Matt Jones
So in Rick Pitino and K Would Leopford, that would have been a culture shock when those two got to see each other for the first time. Right.
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Richie Farmer
Listen, when Rick Patino came here, it was a culture shock for everybody. I'm going to tell you. I tell people this. You know, did you see the online thing where Keith Willard was talking about when he worked for Coach Patino for nine years, how miserable it was? It was the most miserable experience of my life. Every day you felt like he was going to get fired. I said, you know, when he was there, there were secretaries that worked in the administration that he would have on the treadmill at lunchtime.
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Matt Jones
He would make the secretaries.
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Richie Farmer
I mean, I'm telling you, that might
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Matt Jones
be an HR violation in 2000.
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Richie Farmer
It was unbelievable. Everybody was afraid of that man. I mean, you know, were you afraid of it? Yes. Everybody walked on pin and needles. Not afraid of him. But I mean, he was a scary guy. We didn't know what he could do. He could do anything. We thought.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Let me ask, you know, along those lines. You played as an assistant under him. Kyle Tucker was saying this to me on the podcast. If you're Mark Pope, one of the worst things that's happened is that now Billy Donovan doesn't have a job because there are people who have had since Richie played this idea of Billy, do you think that'll be something that hangs over him this year?
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Ryan Lemond
It'll absolutely hang over. If Billy Donovan sitting on the sideline working some media stuff and Pope and the cat start struggling, you know that the narrative is going to come up immediately. Just every time there's a job opening, Billy Dahman's name always gets thrown around. I got thrown around this time when he hired Mark.
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Shannon Dawson
But he's got to want to be here too, though, right? What makes you think.
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Matt Jones
All right, so I got a. This came in from the text machine. I want you three guys to to answer which is going to happen first? Kentucky wins the SEC and comes in first place or wins games in football.
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Shannon Dawson
Oh, gosh.
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Matt Jones
Now, there would been most years of Kentucky history, the answer to that question would be win the SEC in basketball. That would have been almost universally the case. But considering where it is, etc, what would you say?
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Shannon Dawson
I know the football team is making improvements, but that schedule coming up this year is going to be really tough. So it's not going to happen this
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Matt Jones
upcoming happen this year.
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Shannon Dawson
I don't think it's going to happen for the basketball team this season either, but I think probably I would still go. Basketball wins the SEC before we get nine in football.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, Santa said that schedule, we're playing all these SEC games now. I'll probably guess basketball too. Because I think there's still some magic left in the basketball program and I think he's able to get the right guys that can maybe do this. I'm going basketball.
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Matt Jones
I may say basketball, but it's a lot closer than people think. I mean, this foot, this recruiting that Will Stein is doing, I mean, I know you guys heard him on the show. It's not getting enough attention because it's in the portal, but we have the 9th highest ranked recruiting class in the country right now in football. Ninth.
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Richie Farmer
Nuts.
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Matt Jones
That's nuts. We have the. Not the top quarter. Think about this. The top quarterback in America that has committed to a school. The number one quarterback hasn't committed, but the number one quarterback that has committed to a school, Richie, is coming to Kentucky. He picked Kentucky over everyone.
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Richie Farmer
And I tell you, I love listening to Will Stein and, and I think that he's got, he's got things going and he certainly wants to be here, I can tell.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, he does.
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Matt Jones
His energy, I mean, we didn't really get to talk a lot when he was on here. I mean, his energy is just unbelievable. And you can kind of see Ryan, why guys would want to play for him. Don't you.
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Ryan Lemond
You got a young, energetic coach like that. Yes. You want to play for somebody like, that's why he's able to pull in these recruits. But now once he gets him here, he's going to have to win if he wants to continue that level of recruiting success.
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Matt Jones
But I think fans, Shannon, are going to give him leeway.
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Shannon Dawson
Oh, of course.
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Matt Jones
I mean, like this schedule. I mean, we play everyone good this year. I mean our schedule this year we play Alabama, we play Texas A and M, we play lsu, we play Georgia, we play Florida. I mean, we play like the hardest schedule imaginable.
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Shannon Dawson
You're playing with house money this first, so come out, be exciting. I think that that offense is going to be really exciting to watch regardless of how many wins they get. It's going to be a fun team to watch.
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Matt Jones
I think it's going to be a lot of fun. 859-280-2287. We're going to take your calls, get you prepared for a big recruiting weekend coming as well. And what happens if you get 547 speeding tickets?
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Richie Farmer
What?
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Matt Jones
547, Ryan?
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Ryan Lemond
I'm close.
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Matt Jones
I'll tell you in a minute. We'll be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.
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Caller
Welcome back.
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Matt Jones
It is Kentucky Sports Radio here at Freedom House in Clay county, the only residential recovery program in the state that allows mothers and children to live together. They've just expanded and opened 12 new places. Got to meet the guy that did the construction. He was very nice. Just a minute ago, did you guys
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Shannon Dawson
take a tour of this?
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Matt Jones
I have not.
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Shannon Dawson
I went through it earlier, though. It is immaculate in there. It is very, very nice.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, well, it's great. And this is a part of Clay County I've never been before. And it's beautiful. The drive up here was beautiful. Although for Mario, making the drive last night was a little less beautiful at night since he didn't know where he was.
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Ryan Lemond
But, yeah, you gotta want to get here. And it's kind of treacherous during the day. I can't imagine driving that at 9:00 clock last night.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, that's a little much. All right. 859-280-2287. New York City cop yesterday was reported he has 547 unpaid speeding tickets.
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Ryan Lemond
My goodness.
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Matt Jones
He has. In, you know, in New York, there are certain places where if you're speeding, they'll just send you the ticket. He has 547. He has sped at the same corner 323 times, and now he owes. If he was to pay all of it, he will owe something like $54,000. So I don't know what he's gonna do there.
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Shannon Dawson
Well, here's my question. Why did we have to get to 547 before it became a story? Like I would think maybe after a hundred it would be a story, I don't know.
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Matt Jones
But apparently they let it go. Richie, you've been known to have a heavy foot on the pedal. Could you. Have you ever gotten 547?
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Richie Farmer
Nowhere close to that. But, you know, I have had a few over the years. But can you.
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Matt Jones
Will they give you tickets in Clay County?
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Richie Farmer
No, not in Clay County.
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Ryan Lemond
He's got immunity.
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Richie Farmer
These people here, we're good.
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Matt Jones
You're allowed to speed here?
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Richie Farmer
Yeah, I can speed a little here, but, you know, when you get out on the interstate and you're traveling around seeing Kentucky, that happens occasionally.
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Matt Jones
I. I understand. Another person writes here. Matt, here's my question for you. How many, if Mark Pope were to remain the coach, do you think we would have a final four in the next five years? Yes or no? I'm going to say yes because I want to say optimistic and say, why not say yes? So, yeah, I'm going to say yes.
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Shannon Dawson
If he can make it to five years, then I would be optimistic and say yes. I'm just not convinced he's going to make it. Best Year three, if he can make
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Ryan Lemond
it for five years. I mean, you've had some success at least in year one, two and three to get you to five years. So with that said, I think he can definitely do it. He's got to get the right guy. He's got to start figuring a way to get some players.
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Matt Jones
By the way, I was wrong. The number one quarterback in America did commit yesterday. He committed to Oregon. So I'm going to give Will Stein credit for that one, too. He's got the number two guy to commit here, and since he came from Oregon and they watched Oregon's offense, I'm going to go ahead and give him credit Richie for the number one as well.
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Richie Farmer
That sounds like a good plan for me.
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Matt Jones
That's right. Papa John Shannon is back at U
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Shannon Dawson
of L. Papa's back.
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Matt Jones
You, Papa's back. Uofl announces that they're going to try to mend fences with Papa John, who they basically kicked out 10 years ago. They say, you know, it's been long enough, blah, blah, blah. At its core, they're bringing Papa John back because somebody's got to pay for that roster.
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Ryan Lemond
That's what it is.
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Matt Jones
And Papa John probably has more money to give away for the roster than almost anybody. What do you think about after a decade, they finally bring papa back?
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Shannon Dawson
You never say never. It's interesting, though, they would bring him back. I thought that if there were a case where a guy would not come back to a program, it would be Papa John. You're wondering where all this money's coming from. Now all of a sudden it's making sense. Kentucky had the highest paid roster last year. It's looking like Louisville's gonna have the
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Matt Jones
highest paid roster in the country. People don't. They are going to have. They're going to spend a ton of money on their roster. And I actually think, Ryan, there's a lot of pressure on Pat Kelsey because, you know, we talk about Pat Kelsey or we talk about Pope. Pat Kelsey's only won one game so far in the tournament and has actually been a lot of Louisville fans a little disappointed. He's going to have a lot of pressure on him since they got him a Rolls Royce Ross.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, we talk about the make or break year for Pope. It's a make or break year for Kelsey. They now especially since he's got this roster. So that's why they bring in Papa John back. They got to pay for that roster.
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Matt Jones
And you've heard me talk about Richie. We've talked about how college basketball and Pro basketball has become a lot more about getting big dudes and rebounding like that, especially college. If you look at the. Who was in the Final Four, that's what Louisville decided to go do. Louisville's gonna have a team of the tallest players you've ever seen and just going to try to beat you with size. Yeah.
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Richie Farmer
Now Louisville has got a really, a really good roster coming back. And like you said, they're going, they're going, they're going with size. And you saw it this year a little bit with Michigan and you saw it with Arizona. They. I mean, both of those teams were long.
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Matt Jones
And that's what worries me about our team right now. We have one big. Yeah, one. Malachi Moreno. That's it. That's the only big we have right now on the roster that has played. So that. That's part of what I'm a little concerned about is all these teams in the country are big. We're like the one team that doesn't have big guys.
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Richie Farmer
Yeah. You know, it kind of makes you kind of pray for the fact that you hope that some of these guys that graduated last year may get eligibility and maybe, you know, that would be interesting.
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Matt Jones
That would be helpful. Who's up next?
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Richie Farmer
Bill is up next.
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Matt Jones
Bill, Go ahead, Bill.
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Caller
Yes. I was wondering why UK didn't sign Mr. Basketball. The Pelfrey kid from Madison Central. Was he not good enough or.
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Matt Jones
I think that's the thought is that he was. I mean, I mean, here would be the argument, and I'm not trying to say. I know that's Richie's friends. Relative. I'm not trying to say anything about Jake Feldhouse. I've never even really watched him. But I think the reason would be, look, he had a great high school career, but so did Trent Noah and Travis Perry, and they haven't really been able to play a whole lot. And I think that's probably. If I'm guessing Ryan, that's probably why they didn't go after him.
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Ryan Lemond
I mean, Jake Pilfrey. Felthouse is a great player. There's no doubt about it. Is he. Could he play to Kentucky?
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Matt Jones
It's a different athleticism in the sec, especially nowadays. So I. Where did he end up going?
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Ryan Lemond
We committed Belmont, but then he decommitted.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, he.
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Richie Farmer
He's opened back up, I think.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
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Caller
Don't you think it's important to sign a Kentucky player even though especially it's Mr. Basketball?
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Matt Jones
Well, but if, if, but, but here's the thing. All right? Now they're going to Start this where guys are going to have five years to play. If you have five of your rot. Let's just say you take the view that we're going to always get Mr. Basketball. If you have five dudes from Kentucky on your roster, I mean, that's nice, but they better be good, right? Like, they better be really good.
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Caller
This Kentucky team, that was just like in Richie's day, I mean, we had so many Kentucky players. That was the core of that team. And I think it's important to. Even if a Kentucky player is not hardly as good as, like, the eighth player from West Virginia, why wouldn't you take.
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Matt Jones
Well, because I think you want to win.
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Shannon Dawson
I mean, it's not as good, that's why.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I mean.
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Shannon Dawson
I mean, I'm taking the best player. I don't care where they're from.
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Matt Jones
I mean, I appreciate the call, Richie. You. You're a Kentucky kid. I think it's important to have a Kentucky presence on the roster. But people forget, next year we're going to have Trent Noah, we're going to have Malachi Moreno. There's two Kentucky kids right there. And Braden Hawthorne grew up on the border. Right? So, like, essentially now you're looking at three guys. I don't. I. I've never been of the belief you just got to have all these Kentucky guys just to have Kentucky guys.
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Richie Farmer
Well, there's no doubt that if you go there and you're from Kentucky, I mean, you need to be good enough to play. And, you know, I think that in this situation, if. If Jake doesn't get that opportunity, he'll get an opportunity to go somewhere else and then.
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Matt Jones
And maybe.
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Richie Farmer
And then maybe develop and come back.
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Matt Jones
Do you think if. When you came out, if it wasn't for Kentucky's problems, they would have had all you guys?
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Richie Farmer
You know, I don't know. I don't think they wanted to recruit me until I scored 51 in the state finals. I mean, I'll be honest with you.
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Matt Jones
You were gonna go to lsu, right?
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Richie Farmer
Lsu.
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Matt Jones
Have you ever thought about what it would if you played with Chris Jackson and Shaquille o'? Neal?
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Richie Farmer
Well, Dale Brown came right to my house. They flew up and landed in a helicopter in my backyard.
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Matt Jones
Wait a minute. Dale Brown laying in a helicopter in Clay County?
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Richie Farmer
Yes, in my backyard. And they. They came in and he said. And he said, listen, I'm recruiting what I feel like the two best guards in the nation. I've got one of them. You're the second. He said, I'm going to put you two guys out there. I've got two pretty good big guys. A guy out of Louisiana named Shaquille o' Neal and a guy out of South Carolina named Stanley Roberts. He said, I'm gonna put them on the block, and I'm gonna let you guys shoot.
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Matt Jones
So wait a minute. He told you about Chris Jackson? Yeah. Who I think is one of the best college players of all time, Maybe the best one. Shaquille in your class.
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Richie Farmer
Yes. Yes.
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Caller
Wow.
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Richie Farmer
Yes.
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Matt Jones
So have you ever thought about, like, you could have, like, what, you and Shaquille. You throwing lobster? Shaquille o'. Neal.
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Richie Farmer
You know, we got along good. We used to meet at the center line before every game and talk a little bit, but Shaq was. Yeah, Shaq and I are cool, and it would have been fun. But, you know, I've always said, you know, growing up in Kentucky, I used to lay in the bed and dream of playing at the University of Kentucky. And I said, you know, I just always felt like that if I hadn't have done that, if I'd have went somewhere else or if I'd have went to lsu, I would have always wondered, what if?
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Richie Farmer
And, you know, that was just. And it was a different time, you know, didn't have the portal back then. In the nil world, it might have been different.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Shannon Dawson
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
That's interesting. Shaq, Stanley Roberts, Chris Jackson, and Richie Farmer. That would have been a sight to behold, wouldn't it?
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Ryan Lemond
That's crazy to think about that. What it could have been for your
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Shannon Dawson
career, how much they turned that down to go to Kentucky.
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Matt Jones
Well, you ended up on a good team.
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Richie Farmer
Yeah.
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All right.
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Visit spinquest.com for more details. Wow. Listen welcome back. It's Kentucky Sports Radio. Didn't expect Rick to be throwing some biggie out here in Manchester. Wow. 859-280-2287 Text machine is 772-774-5254 we have some breaking news. Rick Wilstein got another commitment 2027 four star tight end Conrad Hart is committed to Kentucky over Auburn, Florida and Other SEC schools. So another big commitment for another four star kid.
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Richie Farmer
Four star?
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Matt Jones
Yeah, that was, that was the tight end I think they went to after they didn't. The kid from Boyle county ended up choosing Oklahoma. So continuing to, continuing to crush it.
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Shannon Dawson
He's just really. These guys in for as much frustration as we've had in recruiting on the basketball side will start it. Just come in and just. He's owning it right now.
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Matt Jones
Jake Feldhouse, by the way, committed to South Florida, so that's Darren Feldhouse's kid. He committed to Chris Mack at South Florida. Let me ask you a question about the NFL draft will be on all weekend. I want to know if you agree with me about this. Ryan, do you think that Roger Goodell hugs the players too much?
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Ryan Lemond
Well, that's, that's the photo op that they all want.
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Matt Jones
I mean, it's too much. That's, it's, it's, it's front hugging. That's too much. They just met. I mean, he acts like that, which Shane and we were talking about that. He acts like they're close friends.
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Shannon Dawson
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
And he's hugging. He's like, you just met this.
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Shannon Dawson
Hugging another grown man front to front. Maybe like a little side hug, you know, but I'm not going full on
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Matt Jones
frontal and it's front to front for a long time. Yes, you. Shannon really hated it.
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Shannon Dawson
I thought it was weird.
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Matt Jones
It was fun hanging out with Shannon because we would watch, they would walk up and they would pick up their hat and then they'd look in the mirror and then they would show them dancing and pointing and Shannon was like, this is so awkward.
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Shannon Dawson
They, they added like a level of cheesiness to the NFL draft that we didn't need. But I'm with you on Goodell just wanting to hug everybody.
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Matt Jones
Can I also say I think it would be really terribly boring to go watch the NFL draft.
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Richie Farmer
Horrible.
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Matt Jones
We saw all those people stand out there and just like, like, if you're
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Shannon Dawson
in the front, I get it. But if you're 100 rows back with all those people, why would you want to. Why do you want. These people have face paint on, they got wigs on, they've got shoulder pads with spikes looking like the Legion of Doom from the wwf. Like, what you need to reevaluate your life if you're that guy.
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Richie Farmer
I think we need a scorecard.
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Shannon Dawson
I get it. They're having fun.
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Matt Jones
So I guess I got. You know, we've talked on the air a lot about how Shannon and I, we don't really? Ever hang out?
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Shannon Dawson
That's your fault. I invite you all the time. You never.
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Matt Jones
But last night we got to hang out. It was just me and Shannon. Mario was lost in Clay county, so it was just me and Shannon.
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Shannon Dawson
You taught me hockey.
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Matt Jones
I taught him about hockey, yeah. Shout out, by the way, to Heather and Erlanger, who was listening. Who has relatives here as well as well today. Who's up next?
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Richie Farmer
Kaden is up next.
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Matt Jones
Kaden. Go ahead, Kaden.
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Caller
First of all, I didn't realize I shared a birthday with K with Ledford.
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Matt Jones
Congratulations.
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Caller
I think that's pretty cool.
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Matt Jones
Yes.
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Caller
And if the five years gets approved, do you think OA will come back, go to the draft or hop in the portal?
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Matt Jones
Well, I mean, that's the wild card of all wild cards. So the D1 board of members or whatever, they're going to decide next week whether or not to approve five in five years. It's almost guaranteed that they're now going to give people five years to play college sports. No red shirts, no injury exceptions. So if you get hurt, you lose the year. But if you're healthy all five years, you can play for five years. It's going to be a huge change. It's almost certainly going to get approved. Now, I look, there's a lawyer online who talks about whether or not these rules will salt will, like, pass legal scrutiny. His argument was, if the NCAA decides to do this, it will likely be legal, but the only way it'll be legal is if they let the kids now do it. If they try to not apply it retroactively. This guy was like, they're going to get sued and they're going to lose. So his argument was the seniors that have just finished, he thinks the NCAA has to let them play or they're going to get sued. If all of a sudden the seniors are allowed to play, Ryan, I mean, don't you do whatever you can to get away, to come back?
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Ryan Lemond
I think it's just your first phone call. You may try to get him to come back. You got some extra money for him. But then I heard, like, Coach Patino crying and whining about it all. Most of our people are already out of nil money. We don't have any money to give these kids if they're able to come back.
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Matt Jones
Well, you know what? We could get really lucky. Us struggling. Shannon might end up benefit because there'll be all these players to choose from and a lot of the other teams won't have any money.
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Shannon Dawson
Imagine that. We got all these roster spots to fill. And then here comes fifth year seniors that are now eligible to play again. If you get away back all of a sudden I think there's more positivity going.
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Matt Jones
You got more options Richie for big guys too that you can go get which you, which right now you don't have.
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Richie Farmer
Well, you'll be looking at a lot of different people in the portal that you may be interested in other than just away.
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Matt Jones
And as far as what would away do? I mean depends on what he wants to do. But here's a fact. OA could make more money next year in college than he'll make playing in
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Richie Farmer
the pro most definitely.
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Matt Jones
I mean I was seeing Ty Simpson, the quarterback from Alabama. He went 13th in the draft last night. I was looking at this. Miami offered Ty Simpson six and a half million dollars to come be their quarterback next year. You know how much he's getting paid for the Rams neck next season? 6.3. He would have had more money if he had stayed in college and played than Ryan than if he goes to the to the draft.
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Ryan Lemond
Well I guess I heard one of the guys on ESPN that Thomas Hauck at Florida, he's gonna make more money maybe next year at Florida than he would.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. They're saying Thomas Howe at Florida is going to be the highest paid college player of all time.
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Shannon Dawson
That's why this would be a perfect
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Matt Jones
row away until maybe Tyrone Stokes.
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Matt Jones
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Ryan Lemond
I say third round. We're going to get Jordan Farmer going to get drafted. Jaylen Farmer.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I think so too. When's Jagger go? Jagger could go anywhere from third to seventh.
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Ryan Lemond
I'm gonna say fifth round. Jagger Burton.
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Matt Jones
Jagger Burton. What about Seth McGowan?
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Ryan Lemond
Seventh round.
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Matt Jones
Also worth noting, your godson Dane Key. He, he could get drafted tonight.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, we got it. We got.
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Matt Jones
Or tomorrow night.
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Ryan Lemond
We've got a watch party tomorrow at his house. Kind of excited. He thinks even if he doesn't get drafted, he'll sign with somebody's a free agent when the draft is over, which happens to a lot of guys. So I'm really happy for Dane is a big moment for him and his family.
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Matt Jones
Yes, we've, we've talked about that kid for a long time.
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Ryan Lemond
Richie reached out to Dane, by the way, on his own. Nobody asking it. Richie, you purposely reached out and talked to Dane.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Love it.
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Matt Jones
Richie, thank you very much. Great to see you.
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Thank you.
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Hey, Clay County. Thank you all very much for hosting us and great to the people at Volunteers of America, the Freedom House. The state needs more places like this that care for its citizens. And the fact you guys do it in Clay county and have people from all over the state come here, I'm very proud of it in eastern Kentucky. Thank you guys very much. We'll see you on Monday. This has been Kentucky sports Radio.
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